Analyzing JKA Kumite with the President of JKA Australia!

[@KarateDojowaKu]

JKA (Japan Karate Association) and WKF (World Karate Federation), which style do YOU prefer? And why?

[@markc.jamila3848]

I do shotokan karate-do so it's so famous here in the Philippines they only practice shotokan karate-do,and world karate federation they they do all styles i think,the four major styles of karate not okinawan style like shorin ryu, isshin ryu i think.Because i never competed before i was so full contact arnis back in the days greetings from the Philippines

I train JKA Karate (my senseis are from Takushokudai), but since I'm a "kicker" I also love watching JKF (WKF) kumite, while JKA has strong punches, JKF has great kicks!

I'm also loving this interaction between different Shotokan schools that you're doing! If possible, I'd like to see in the future similar videos with Karatenomichi or JKS. You're doing great!

[@michaelgabriel5786]

I think I like JKA more because I can punch the face a little harder and still score yuko. lol. But I'm fine with either JKA or WKF.

[@lotusshadow2473]

I prefer WKF because of kicks. Since i was a little i was doing Lethwai. We learnt lethwai and was one of the games we play during school breaks or after school. Instead of playing football or basketball we kicked each other. It was only a game so we never intend to hurt each other so no hits on the face thats why about 80% of the time are using kicks. This is why i prefer wkf because of the kicks i am used to but not taekwondo because kicks are too high i never kicked above shoulder or even chest area. Kicks mostly used are side kick, round house, and front kick. Back kicks too but rare.

[@dirkvader1522]

I used to compete in JKA tournaments in my younger years. It can be very fast and very brutal. Funny thing is when we competed in WKF rules, we almost always get disqualified by using excessive contact. LOL. It's normal to have bloody nose after a JKA tourney. Apparently WKF requires "soft touch" and for a traditional Martial Artist, that is not very intuitive. Good content btw. Osu!

[@KarateDojowaKu]

Great point!

[@zsolthorvath495]

Just like me, bro! :-)

[@xxprivacylastname7594]

ive also been disqualified for excessive head force, for what i believed was surely an ippon. head jolting was the reason given.

[@nearazmigaaraal-fatih5727]

I thought using excessive contact till the opponent got bloody nose is also forbidden in JKA kumite's rule?

[@dirkvader1522]

@@nearazmigaaraal-fatih5727 a lot has changed over the years. Back in the 90s, it was pretty brutal.

[@praetorian3959]

You replyed on my comment at a karate combat video, I recognized your thumbnail! Small world....You are doing great with this channel, 26.000! Was here from the beginning. Keep up the good work!!

[@rubenrelvamoniz]

I personally see geri/ Kicks as high risk high reward while tsuki/punches are much more reliable. On fights where we get a much more limited sense of oportunity reliability becomes a crucial factor.thus jka kumite we might see tsuki & mae geri more than mawashi or ura

[@almightysnuffles5834]

this is a very very rare and hidden gem of a video, because there are not that many videos about JKA, thank you!

[@barrettokarate]

What are you talking about? There are a shit ton of JKA videos. Most of the videos on Kuro Obi World feature Tatsuya Naka of the JKA and are filmed at different JKA branches. There are probably more videos on the JKA than any other shotokan organization.

[@pallan7733]

@@barrettokarate You're right. Most kumite videos from the 60's and 70's were JKA bouts.

[@theshotokanchronicles]

I was part of the JKA many years ago, when the ISKF was part of the JKA. In 2011, I left the ISKF to follow Frank Woon-A-Tai in his new organization, IKD. The JKA, ISKF and IKD style of tournament kumite is the same. Very traditional type of sparring. I prefer the "JKA" style of sparring. WKF is entertaining to watch but to a "JKA" style fighter they are very long matches.

[@ClintsCrypt]

Ippon- An incapacitating/finishing blow. The enemy is unable to continue attacking. Wazari (half poimt)- A blow which partially disables the opponent, but the opponent is still capable of attacking, defending, etc. JKA also has to learn to have more "control" of techniques and distance in kumite than WKF does. This is because JKA traditionally doesn't wear all the protective padding and gear, etc. that WKF uses when doing kumite. In the dojo, we never used ANY protective gear when sparring. In JKA tournaments, we only wore a mouth guard and mitts with a thin padding over just the knuckles.

[@pallan7733]

My instructor once scoffed when I asked if the padding was to protect the opponent's face. 'Stupidah, that's to protect your knuckles'. Right, my makiwara-deformed knuckles, LOL.

[@rynoerasmus7869]

Another brilliant interview! More JKA video interviews please!

[@stuarthughes3747]

i competed back in the 70s we were always taught ippon .. controlled killing blow with in the KUGB & jka.. only ever scored 3 times tho.. like a hole in one at golf ha.. sensei brennan was very good at setting opponents up for it tho .. regards

[@zsolthorvath495]

Sensei Brennan is a true legend!

[@markymarco2570]

I prefer JKA. Less reaching, more realistic posture, more punching power, more observation of good fundaments.

[@pablojesuslobos2442]

Thanks for the conversation!

[@gomesbandrey]

Highlights: Video begins - we can say that Yūsuke-sensei looks up to Gerald-sensei a lot (sorry if I misspelled his name). At the same time, Gerald-sensei looks starstruck, it's so cool! He's also very respectful, awesome guy. Yūsuke-sensei lets his fascination for Taekwondo show. The masters discuss the differences in their styles, and give each other tips for kumite. Ichi geki hisatsu - I asked what it meant on Insta and now I'm "ohhhhh" Great video. Thanks to both of you.

[@zsolthorvath495]

It was an interesting video. I trained JKA karate long time, and later in other style sparring or championship I found an interesting disadvantage of this mentallity. I always hit or kicked my opponent first time, and second, and third, but later in the fight I lost my sharp mindset. I thought a lot about this problem, and I found the root of this: because I won in my mind. I could hit clearly two or three times my opponent and it is enough.

[@nycboxing8359]

WKF scoring criteria also requires proper timing and distance or it does not score. My experience has taught me that front kicks & Oi Tsuki score ippon in traditional shobu ippon. Essential it has to be with the spirit of killing with one blow (ichi gekki itsasu).

[@kenpwcei.1949]

That's because if you do have a greatly dedicated Sensei in Shotokan they a always pushing you to have that samurai spirit. Great stuff. Go JKA.👍🏿🥋

[@_tone_1879]

Good job Gerard!! Miss you at States/Nats

[@vishenbhoonpershad507]

at about 3:00 when you start to explain Ippon, it is not accurate. of course, you must have correct technique, distance, timing, kime, zanshin and be on target, but there are some attack scenarios that can score an ippon without knocking your opponent to the floor. eg. Jodan Mawashi Geri with good control can score ippon. Controlled takedown with a scoring technique on the downed opponent. (ashi barai x tsuki) Jodan oi tsuki that is able to catch your opponent completely off guard , in other words they don't even try to block because of the speed and accuracy of the attack. these are just some examples i have seen and heard off from local and international competitions.

[@michaelgabriel5786]

I used to compete in WKF when I was studying undergrad in another country. Then I switched to JKA when I returned to my homeland because it was only one Shotokan domain in my place. I like JKA more because it's less tiring, and I can even punch face and score. lol.

[@beastkingthe1st771]

A video on sanshou would be cool

[@TehDanno1]

Ippon in my school was a block then punch/kick, or counter then punch/kick. Also considered a clean hit.

[@MrGlobalfugitive]

Before WKF was Olympic they were WUKO which had Ippon and Sanbon, which embodied the essence of karate more fully, eg. Ippon if scored to the back. WKF has essentially followed the TKD path which which prioritised a safe spectator sport over and above the essence of karate. Everyone is talking about bloody noses etc. but ultimately if JKA had WKF gear there would be less. WKF talks a lot about kime and sanshin but more often than not lacks both. Ultimately both have great athletes who would do well in either/or.

[@tokolohoreginald8775]

I Enjoyed this video so much

[@erlangga59]

Basic differrence with WKF, JKA kumite is about training for the one strike that finishes an adversary as quickly as possible. It's not about winning competition. It is about sharpening the killing blow, because in the context of real fighting, we need to finish an opponent quickly and prepare to meet the next opponent.

[@TiagoPortas]

Yeah, you can devastate your opponent with body shots, but you need to control strikes to the head, sam like in wkf. But the score is based on timing and precision, like ippon for the cleanest strike and wasari for a good but not perfect timing technique.

[@Charlitos1988]

so in JKA it isn't forbidden the full contact ?

[@TiagoPortas]

@@Charlitos1988 Full contact to the head still not allowed, only to the body. Is possible to see some knockdowns with head shots be scored Ippon but this happens only when the technique applied is very clean and the opponent is not injured.

[@stephen3455]

Do some western martial arts review like boxing,bin,wrestling

[@dpet]

We use all sort of kicks... Mae Geri, mawashi and ushiro Geri are the most used I would say. I am surprised on some of the comments.

[@LilaKaiTV]

Oss! Love the content!

[@christopheryoung6902]

Great Video!

[@stringman30]

Collab with Naka sensei 😊

[@jamesthorne6304]

Do videos on karate combat

[@retroghidora6767]

I've seen JKA matches here on youtube where I'm certain more than one or two points scored, so I'm a little confused. The officials are speaking in Japanese (which I don't speak) so I could easily be missing something. I also went scanned across some rules I found translated and don't recall seeing this ippon rule. It would be greatly appreciated if someone could explain what I'm misunderstanding here, as I find this subject fascinating.

[@jessewilkinson90]

Finals are set at 3 full points. So if a standard match can be decided by ippon, or 2 waza ari, then finals are 3 ippon, or 6 waza ari, or a combination of the two. Hope that helps.

[@alvinkyo]

i think the reason he's seeing those is because of weak attacks or simultaneous attacks, which voids the score

[@Mraymankarate]

kwf has spoiled my karate. I used to be jka. I am going back to jka

[@hablemosdekarate]

porque Idetaka abandono la JKA? podrías compartirnos esa informacion completa en un video?

[@kelvinesteban2235]

Nice vid, Sensei Gerard I wish you could come to La Trinidad, Benguet Philippines and teach us. Osu.

[@markc.jamila3848]

Hope so

[@yuhtanizawa7686]

I think the linear techniques are always best in karate. The circular techniques, for example the mawashi geri, look nice but I don´t use them anymore in kumite because sometimes I face opponents who are able to catch my leg. The linear techniques on the other hand like the mae geri for instance don´t have that kind of flaw! That´s better I think.

[@MettaDojo]

Either WKF or JKA kumite, they aren't fight, just a game. And to train karate for a game, while it's fun, a lot of things can be lost.

[@Noonegivesashit0009]

JKA is a gem in a world of rules made by Olympic judges. BUT WKF is the best for young children to not give them brain damage growing up

[@juancasoli6165]

Japan Karate Association is Budo! Wkf is sport

[@deejin25]

It's freakishly tragic that Shotokan masters spend years of their lives practicing kicks, blocks and hand strikes they never use in Kumite. Think about it, thousands of repetitions of side kicks, back kicks, palm strikes and knife hands (count the times they are done in kata through decades long careers), and they don't get used ONCE in competition or even Kumite. Hell like this guy they often don't even block, get out of the way, or redirect. They throw reverse punches, front kicks and try to beat each other to the punch and once every fifty matches a roundhouse kick. I pity them.

[@TumisangBokala]

I am in south africa .. how do i join JKA Karate ... I subscribed please help...

[@joshtlll]

I have a question what kind of karate are you training cause I did shotokan

[@gomesbandrey]

Yūsuke-sensei is a Shotokan practitioner too

[@Charlitos1988]

please I didn't get it about the "ai uchi" what is that?

[@pallan7733]

This is late but it usually leads to a tie. Simultaneous attacks or scoring at the same time. Think of Bruce Lee's 'intercepting fists'. You just need to outspeed your opponent and hit first with precision, speed and power to score.

[@Docinaplane]

"In the world of Kung Fu, speed defines the winner." - Kung Fu Hustle

[@TheSomnathchatterjee]

In the world of karate ... we avoid watching movies

[@Docinaplane]

@@TheSomnathchatterjee That's cool. but KFH is one of a kind.

[@TheSomnathchatterjee]

@@Docinaplane sure

[@zsolthorvath495]

“Precision beats Power. Timing beats Speed” :-)

[@timluvsmilk]

PLS do sa jka

[@SaikouKarate]

Kyokushin

[@zsolthorvath495]

Pure kyokushin is really strong, but only in kyokushin style fighting. The attention is narrower than in other (head punch like) style and the fighting distance is closer. It is more than enough.

[@markymarco2570]

Are Machida brothers JKA?

[@Isaac_Shamir]

They were

[@debanshumishra7279]

Yes ... Their father sensei yoshizo machida is one of the most well reputed JKA sensei's and also the chief instructor of JKA brazil ... JKA can do fab in mma saying as am from JKA and also training for mma just like machida brothers

[@mikekelvin9503]

does this mean that jka allow KO, and is it full contact?

[@zsolthorvath495]

I don't now what is the rule today, but earlier, the body KO was permitted. The head KO was not forbidden, but the permitted contact was very strong. Blood and monocle was regular.

[@mikekelvin9503]

@@zsolthorvath495 oh ok thank you so much for answering...does this mean that if I jab someone face and it bleed, instead of getting a foul like in wkf I still get a point? if yes jka is technically full contact point karate hahhahahahha

[@zsolthorvath495]

@@mikekelvin9503 Yes, if your opponent stay on his feet it was a point in old times. But jka fight is not full contact. The mentallity and the technic is very different. The speed is more important than the power and effectivity. And these type of attacks without self protection in full contact fight is self-destruction. But the new karate combat is very promising.

[@zsolthorvath495]

sorry, I typed incorrectly: the head KO was forbidden :-)

[@mikekelvin9503]

@@zsolthorvath495 thank you so much for replying

[@markc.jamila3848]

In jka is so crazy they don't wear a foot protection

[@moehoward8691]

Foot protection is for children and sissies!

[@TheRastacabbage]

What do you need foot protection for?

[@zsolthorvath495]

Foot protection is no problem if you train with heavy-bag usually. But 30 years ago in JKA nobody used teeth protector. I don't know what is the practice today, but it was a really crazy thing. I was lucky with my teeth, but i knocked out an opponent’s tooth and it feels awful.

[@debanshumishra7279]

On higher levels we (jka) don't wear gloves as well ...

[@jimradford9540]

@@TheRastacabbage My son broke 2 metatarsals in a comp - mawashi against his opponent's elbow. Probably with protection it wouldn't have happened. Them's the risks 🙂

[@Marcao-l8c]

Jka is the one wkf is ruining the karate image

[@walteranderson5090]

Point tournament is for beginners. You need constant full contact fighting. Thinking a punch or kick is effective is nonsense. You need the contact to demonstrate effectiveness. Also. Point fighting favors competitors who posses speed and timing. An athlete has to demonstrate their toughness thru full contact. Contest(rules)fighting does not always translate to real life combat.