AND EVEN *MORE* AEW BACKSTAGE DRAMA | Wrestling Observer Radio

[@mikhailpetrov40]

Love CM Punk, but I think Randy Orion said it best. For a guy that is sober, he’s always on edge, stressed, or in some kind of vile mood.

[@thagame7528]

Punk doesn’t take shit but I don’t think he’s the bad guy here

[@Yautah]

@@thagame7528 He is, because he can dish it but can't take it. Punk also said some slick shit about hangman and the elite recently, do they have to go choke him out ?

[@timperalta9430]

I'd like to watch that interview. Where to find it? If Randy indeed said that, he's so spot on. A guy who should be enjoying his flowers and attention should not delve into overstressing with petty things unless, of course, stress gives him a purpose in life. I don't think it should be the case. Punk can always give more for the company without starting a turbulence. But for this moment, i think he was jusr concerned for Jungle Boy. I mean, you don't want to cause unwarranted harm especially when you can fake it with glass.

[@aspect1200]

Have you ever hung around sober people? They're usually the corniest people in the room.

[@turtlehead2]

@@aspect1200drunken slobs that need substances to bring out their inner piece of 💩 are awesome.

[@LaurenWeir739]

Samoa Joe throwing Punk straight through the announce table was SO funny

[@JusRed48]

This was a great spot for a fun match!

[@bradleybledsoe8320]

Yeah wondered why that spot. Then when he came out bleeding I knew that was a spot to let him blade

[@ShadyDBZ4]

Tied for best match of the night along with FTR Vs. BUCKS III. Both phenomena matches. But yeah, Joe throwing Punk through the bottom of the announce table was hilarious. Match was excellent.

[@PontFlair]

​@ShadyDBZ4 FTR actually winning the match was awesome. Joe vs Punk was a GREAT opener. Only gripe for FTR vs YBs was all the kicking out on the finishers. Aside from that, 2 GREAT matches. And Takeshita getting the roll-up surprise win in the 6th man was good. The 1st 3 matches were pretty awesome, set the tone. Historic night for AEW

[@BlkEaselsAndLovePalettes]

Joe not winning was depressing

[@GrimReader]

After a really good show wrestlers be thinking: “how can I put a sour note on this?”

[@JCJHn]

Wrestlers or dirt sheets? It’s the if a tree falls on the forest scenario but with wrestlers 😂

[@djdarq6311]

No just Jack

[@badhousemedia6983]

Not wrestlers… cm punk wonders how he can make it about himself

[@badhousemedia6983]

@@djdarq6311Jack isn’t the common problem. Is cm punk just the perpetual victim? I don’t think so

[@Trustme77]

@@badhousemedia6983 Look, obviously the world is just full of people who don't act the right way, and it is CM Punk's holy obligation to dispense justice upon their heads, because he is the word and the way and the light, all praise be upon his infallible person. Seriously, I wonder if the fuckwits saying that it's fine to punch someone for saying the wrong thing (like people in these comments saying that even if Punk turns out to have started the altercation, that Perry had it coming) do that IRL. Like, go ahead guys, respond to words with violence, see what happens to you. 🙄

[@justsomeguy0873]

We should just be happy that Punk managed to wrestle a couple of shows in a row with only his feelings being injured.

[@xan7747]

🤣

[@wrestledeep]

🤣😂😂

[@wilcee238]

Jungle Toy should be happy he’s still breathing

[@omgness14]

Facts!!!!

[@zhougongjin2704]

@thebaddestman7865imagine being a fan of someone who wanted someone fired over words or a fight and calling someone else the softest man alive

[@matthewjuarbe5826]

you forgot to mention it wasn't just Punk Tony Shivanne and other AEW management there also advised against it.

[@thagame7528]

Punk is the root of all evil though!

[@DiruMede]

Sshhhh that would make Punk look not so bad.

[@matthewjuarbe5826]

@@DiruMede of course its easy to hate Punk.

[@CMBell1985]

Id have advised against it. Why would you use real glass when you dont have to? Have we learned nothing from Goldberg lol

[@matthewjuarbe5826]

@@CMBell1985 because these young kids think they know everything

[@wilnich592]

Perry should have just had the window made of Phil's ego, because that shit breaks into billions of pieces at the slightest touch.

[@wilcee238]

He also shouldn’t have confronted Punk and got choked for his trouble 😂

[@Trustme77]

@@wilcee238 You are going to feel like an idiot if the version of the story you heard turns out to be false. I'm inclined to believe that Punk started it over something he could have easily ignored the way The Elite have been ignoring all of his little digs at them, but I'm willing to admit that I don't know what happened exactly. I'm willing to admit that I won't know for sure until they release more details. Wait, I'm sorry, you'll never believe that this was in any way Punk's fault, will you? Even if Punk actually says to everybody "I was mad that Perry made that crack about real glass, so I got in his face because I'm bigger than him and not afraid of him, and when he wouldn't apologize I went after him," you'll cling to some silly conspiracy theory about how Tony Khan and the EVPs are all forcing him to lie for some reason.

[@arkada]

Jesus, Bryan is more younger everyday

[@willvelida]

Anyone who believes an Alvarez story on Punk is beyond help. The guy clearly has an agenda, no matter what you think of Punk

[@Kaisingsens]

Wembley was the first wrestling show I've ever attended. It was a dream come true, I had the time of my life but it bumms me out that the day after all coverage is just about Punk and his asshole antics that show this arrogant mf can't behave. really a shame. AEW put on an awesome show I'll never forget!

[@miguelbraz2629]

Spot on. Fuck CM Punk locker room cancer

[@cerebralassassin2185]

He wasn't in the wrong at all for this incident.

[@Joesledge13]

He didn’t start the drama. Jungle boy did. You are not listening to the clear report. Jungle boy came up to him and chest bumped a man, and got reminded he’s just a boy 😂

[@jhb4uk149]

If "all coverage" your reading or watching or hearing are about Punk-Perry, that means you are only seeking that out. You are wallowing in the negativity and not the positive greatness of the night.

[@robdigital1383]

Jungle boy should be suspended or even better let go … hes messing with aew money by causing shit … end of the day punk is a superstar… jungle boy is a green midget jobber

[@SteelCity570]

This probably happened all the time back in the day but now everyone knows about it bc of social media and these wrestling journalists

[@CMBell1985]

I genuinely dont want stuff reported that isnt directly affecting the show. Its just noise.

[@wilnich592]

Mostly just social media. It's not like these wrestling journalists weren't around doing this stuff 30 years ago

[@Inequities]

@@CMBell1985 it’s very interesting why they report it. I’m guessing to get out in front of it because everyone there has shown they can’t really keep stuff quiet

[@95v37]

Or maybe… wrestlers are marks for themselves and they will leak info to their dirtsheet buddies so fans can sympathize with them.

[@rriggs6547]

Back in the day there would have been leaders in the locker room that would have laid him out and told him if he brings that crap again he will be leaving in an ambulance or hearse. Today that person would end up in jail for taking care of people who don't know how to behave.

[@justinsmith424]

Why would aew ever let perry do that in the first place

[@dark_antihero]

They just did in their biggest pay per view of all time

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

I mean they let him leave Jurassic Express and get rid of a gimmick in favor of a worse gimmick so anything is possible.

[@leeedwards9068]

It’s VERY DANGEROUS to have a small girl like Jacqueline Perry use real glass…this should have never happened?? What if she injured herself enough to cause her to miss her floor routine gymnastics classes???

[@leeedwards9068]

No Dave…AEW has NO CHANCE of making a huge move like combining WWE with the UFC…NEVER. BUT; maybe AEW could team up with Nickelodeon or the Care Bears??

[@jilujoilujiut2165]

Man alvarez told the truth on here . Did you guys hear it . He said the story changes depending on who your friends with . Just like every other bit of gossip they report lol

[@RB_rules]

Exactly

[@daveborder7751]

Dave always reports his friends side-Bucks, Omega, Jericho, Page & Tony.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

So...they aren't journalism and don't believe anything they say because they don't even bother to confirm stories

[@SYMShutYoMouth]

Nobody is telling you to watch these videos.

[@skee8721]

And they always tell you that up front and people always cry about it

[@TMPS93]

In the words of Shrek: "Could you not be yourself for five minutes? FOR FIVE MINUTES!"

[@ItsDuckSandwichFilms]

With Jack Im on Punk's side, I get a feeling that the son of the 90's heartthrob hasn't been told no a lot.

[@djc4080]

Yet he’s had no “issues” his whole career til Punk got there.

[@CannedHam2479]

@@djc4080Yeah. Im sure spoiled Jungle Boy hasnt had any issues his whole life either. Riiiiite. lol

[@johnm140]

He's friends with the elite so it makes sense

[@wrestlingp]

@@djc4080his issues were not highlighted til Punk got there you mean.

[@FahadKhan-mw1nh]

​@@djc4080he said straight out that he doesn't listen to veterans and agents in aew wtf you talking about

[@MrGanjie]

Man, I don't like to support one way or the other but if this is legit punk swinging first again, he's really pissing on his own points. You can't go talking shit about EVPs acting like children and "if you have a problem, talk to me" and the first thing he does is get mad or try to fight everybody who doesn't agree.

[@cerebralassassin2185]

Most reports are saying perry started it apparently. Also punk wasn't confirmed to throw the first punk with the elite incident either.

[@jfernandez1545]

This isn't the first time we hear the younger wrestlers not listening and disrespecting the veterans. These young wrestlers have an "I know, I dont need your help" mentality.

[@santanu-fr]

Nobody needs help from Trans Activist CMLGBTQ Punk lol

[@PepsiMan666]

Yeah, Punk never had that mentality

[@Phantom7inCH]

I’m gonna take advice from a dude who hasn’t wrestled in how long? Punk is clown just do your job and cut the locker room leader nonsense.

[@jfernandez1545]

Not choosing sides, but we have heard stories of the younger wrestlers not giving a damn of the knowledge the veterans give them. They're the ones that paved the way for them.

[@wilnich592]

Yeah it's not like Punk's entire career and fame was built solely upon disrespecting and shit-talking the generation that preceded hi- Oh wait.

[@timdertim]

Again, "things we know sure", then "I'm not sure about this", lol, great work guys

[@bodybysmod]

Tim Wilson had a line in one of his songs “been married 9 times, hell, maybe it’s you”. When you have conflict in every locker room you have ever been in you have to start wondering if maybe the problem isn’t the common denominator. Maybe Punk is completely innocent here, but his history doesn’t buy him the benefit of the doubt.

[@uwgbfella]

did you hear what Perry said to the camera? wake up

[@vortex_1336]

Every report coming out is that Jungle Boy walked up to Punk and started it. So, yeah, this time Punk is innocent.

[@bodybysmod]

Dude starts fights everywhere he has been. Even if Jack caused this one entirely alone without provocation from Punk, that would simply be Punk’s karma haunting him. Given what Miro said I’m not assuming that the stories we have are accurate.

[@tommywright2157]

@@uwgbfella Yeah, and did you hear what happened prior to that? Who is Punk to say we don't do glass here? And then put out a story about Jack Perry being the dick. That's why Perry did what he did. Punk is always throwing is non-existent weight around. And just because Perry said that to the cam, it justifies Punk, 20 years older than Perry, acting like a twat right before the start when he's wrestling first? He can't table it for later?

[@cerebralassassin2185]

​@tommywright2157 Punk was asked to talk to perry since perry wouldn't listen to the doctors or Tony Schiavone

[@ChaseSchleich]

It's just crazy that a young guy especially Jack Perry, gets told no by a veteran and has a hissy fit that last months. Try that shit with Taker, Bret Hart, Flair, Funk, whoever and you're going to get punched in the mouth. I don't care whether Punk through the the first punch or not. Jack never should have made the comment so he gets what he gets. The disrespect has to stop.

[@PepsiMan666]

Punk cried for years about veterans gatekeeping young guys from getting anywhere. Now that he's the old veteran he's throwing his weight around just like the old timers did with Punk. He's nothing but a crybaby hypocrite.

[@Trustme77]

Thank you grandpa.

[@LuisReyes-pb4dt]

Jack Perry is a Midcard wrestler who would not even be a towel boy in the 70s and 80s .

[@JustinTNAWWEGuy]

Punk should have said to the camera I work with children during his entrance😂

[@Robinripley]

I can't stand punks arrogant entitled ass, but that would have been hilarious

[@aspect1200]

For Real! Now he knows how the WWE locker room felt about him in 2013

[@wilnich592]

See that's a proper receipt for that. Not pie-facing the guy on the way to your match.

[@therealjd4life]

I'm a huge AEW fan, been to every show in Philly, and ordered every ppv....I'm not ashamed to say this , my estimation of Phil Brooks as a man just fn plummeted...I'm done with this and I'm done with AEW...because AEW is done...other than the ppv ALL OUT they can't sell a single ticket for Collision on Saturday at the United Center...last time I checked they only sold 2400 tickets in a 20,000 seat arena and Arthur Ashe stadium is gonna be another embarrassment this year 5700 tickets sold in a 30,000 seat stadium....this is the beginning of the end for AEW...remember this comment it will age more than fine

[@therealjd4life]

I know they just had a record day, but it's only way downhill from here...sad to say

[@warghoul570]

the anti-Punk bais is sickening. this is the CNN of wrestling dirt sheets

[@theicon2125]

I'm so annoyed that Tony wants to make it a tradition to do 2 ppvs 2 weeks in a row. That's really rough on the wallet with $50 ppvs.

[@thagame7528]

Don’t buy one

[@PhenomenalOne1000]

Yeah all out looks crap i was willing to do both but after all in yesterday i aint all out

[@MrThesupremeking]

Get a VPN and it will cost you 20 dollars

[@nicholasbrown4109]

Fite and VPN reduces that to around 20 bucks per PPV. I paid around 16 dollars for All In because they also had a 20 percent off deal

[@nicholasbrown4109]

@@PhenomenalOne1000 Takeshita vs Omega looks crap?

[@playmoreindies9638]

Dave knows what the answer is. Remove Punk from the locker room. He also knows TK isn’t going to do that. AEW should stop booking main events in advance and just run Punk vs. whoever he fought backstage that night.

[@newageassholes]

No chance.Punk is the world champion.Why should he work with jungle wanker?

[@wilnich592]

I don't think you can feasibly have an entire locker room vs. one guy in a wrestling match.

[@mynameismud-qd9vu]

All I know is that drama seems to follow Punk and even though he's a draw I think AEW would be better off without him.

[@thagame7528]

Would the bulls have been better off without Michael Jordan

[@wilnich592]

@thagame7528 If basketball was performance theater and not an actual sport and all the matches were predetermined? Yes. Yes they would have been.

[@Rupokhasan2011]

​@@wilnich592😂

[@eldiablo3794]

I think AEW would be better off without Jack Perry.

[@TheloniusRichtofen]

CLEARLY, the cosplay wrestlers hate him for exposing the bullshit. The only people who think otherwise are the aew marks who like the mudshow bullshit

[@Tw1s7]

Remember, none of this shit ever happened in AEW **BEFORE** CM Punk.

[@Station_AI]

Regardless of what happened backstage, Perry's reaction to a veteran telling him not to use glass was very immature.

[@timdurgan]

Perry is an AEW original. Veteran or not, Punk has no authority to dictate to an original what "we do here"

[@janus78]

Even though it might not be ideal I get Tony wanting to guard the real estate of the holiday weekend in the hot markets, if he pulls away from them even once WWE could swoop in and take those dates from him.

[@thagame7528]

Punk is a villain for thinking about a guys well being

[@cerebralassassin2185]

Exactly. I honestly don't understand what punk did wrong

[@thagame7528]

Or he got lucky this time @GreenPhenomenaUK

[@vadave311]

Seems to be one common denominator in a lot of this backstage fighting. And that's CM punk.

[@frank-vt8yf]

I think it's the billionaire mark who can't control ANY of his employees because he wants to be friends instead if a boss

[@RomnysGonzalez]

softest man alive for a reason

[@geeloco1600]

Actually it’s only the immature wrestlers and cm punk if you are actually paying attention kiddo , I know you need your flippy flips and bloody blood all the time like your faves

[@TheInsideVideo]

Imagine being a fan of flippy fairies and calling someone else soft.

[@NamesMcgee-dd2te]

​@@frank-vt8yf it's strange AEW had zero problems like this before Punk showed up even though Tony was running the company at that time

[@DarrylWolk]

Punk is wasting his time in the minor leagues and forced to work in a bush league environment. It is clear none of the wrestlers have any respect for Tony Khan and it is even more clear that Khan is a weak leader and poor manager. If someone is not fired over this, Khan will continue to be seen as a joke.

[@chaoticcaninejb]

ITS NEVER OVER WITH PUNK, SOON HE WONT HAVE ANYONE TO WORK WITH.

[@JusRed48]

Like half of that roster likes him though. Everyone focuses heavily on the Elite crowd but there are so many wrestlers that defended him and are cool with him. Even MJF alluded to everyone having coworkers they wanna hit during the scrum.

[@chaoticcaninejb]

@SuperEvilDOOM over half, I'd bet less then 1/4 and it's getting smaller

[@paha4209]

Don't like punk but from what we know currently it seems jack perry is the problem in this situation. I hope it can be sorted out.

[@Odinson42]

Is the problem everyone else or is it just Punk? I tend to go with the most likely answer.

[@DJSpike-ft9yw]

How about you avoid black and white distinctions, use your brain, and treat each incident separately?

[@RB_rules]

@@DJSpike-ft9ywbingo

[@Trustme77]

It's black and white to Punk's remaining fans. Hope you're telling them the same thing.

[@guslima1130]

@@DJSpike-ft9yw By this point, Punk is the kid that got kicked out of 20 different schools, but his parents swear that it's always the school's fault.

[@DJSpike-ft9yw]

@@Trustme77 always do. I sided against Punk on the whole Adam Page thing as Punk shouldn’t have aired backstage issues on live TV/PPV and embarrass the company. It’s the same mistake Perry just did on PPV. Any old timer would’ve kicked his ass for that to, keep kayfabe.

[@Dx298]

Reportedly after the fight Punk took Anna Jay back to his dressing room and gave her a spanking

[@Djclyve]

As many reasons there are to be mad at Punk, ya can’t get mad at him for this, right? Look at what happened to Jack after he went thru that windshield! Looked to me like he instantly regretted it!

[@TheFruty0007]

Someone give CM Punk a drink & a cigarette FFS. That boy gotta chill.

[@Trustme77]

For someone who's straight edge, he acts as crazy as someone on PCP.

[@freakmagnet2737]

He needs therapy

[@matthewjuarbe5826]

well Perry started it by confronting Punk before Punk Match. thats a huge disrespect to the company Perry could have seriously disrupt the show

​@@freakmagnet2737 Yeah, Punk definitely has no fault, it's not like he is involved in every fn altercation ever. When there are patterns of behaviour, it becomes just illogical to keep defending him, he obviously just cares about himself

[@Trustme77]

@@matthewjuarbe5826 lol, you think that a throwaway comment on the fucking PRE-SHOW risked ruining the entire PPV? Oh lord, please tell me you're being sarcastic!🤣

[@cerebralassassin2185]

You guys mossed some very important factors in this discussion. Idk how anyone could defend Jack Perry in this situation. Punk isn't in the wrong this time at all.

[@thagame7528]

Wouldn’t say it all but he clearly was NOT the instigator here

[@wilnich592]

@thagame7528 Except there are multiple sources that say he was.

[@thagame7528]

@@wilnich592 your sources vs my lying eyes

[@XainEisenhart]

Dave and Bryan are famous jokes in "wrestling journalism" for "accidentally" leaving out facts that make the people they're openly friends with and use as sources for all their "reporting" look bad.

[@PepsiMan666]

Man, all this backstage drama and who is the common factor among all of them?

[@Trustme77]

Sammy Guevara a couple times to be fair, but all the other times have been Punk, which I hope people who took his side in the past are realizing.

[@frank-vt8yf]

Tony khan and his lack of professionalism

[@PepsiMan666]

@frank-vt8yf that's actually it. If Khan actually treated Punk like every other wrestler, he'd simmer down.

[@emanuelfer456]

@@PepsiMan666 If he treated the Elite like every other wrestler they would be fired in months, yet they get EVP positions without deserving them. You never put wrestlers as management, its stupid.

[@ajmurtagh27]

The Elite and their friends.

[@mrrobert9176]

Nothing worse than confronting someone and acting like a tough guy only to get spun up and put in a choke hold. Jack actually thought he could take him?

[@LaurenWeir739]

I mean punk is SO childish he spray paints a cross through the ''E'' on his title belt. Everyone knows why he has done that. Biggest AEW show ever and he is opening match and get's boo'd by majority of people there. He is almost a joke at this point and people who cheer him only do so for nostalgia

[@thagame7528]

👆🏿🤦🏿‍♂️

[@JC-ok4yx]

I didn’t watch it but glad it was a good show. I haven’t watched a single show that Punk is on. The guy is intentionally divisive and toxic while blaming other people.

[@Thenoble1j]

How do you blame punk when it was jungle boy that acted out 😭

[@seanmahoney7117]

But you watch KZbin videos about him hahahaha

[@Odinson42]

Nothing like a guy who wrote a book report without reading the book

[@RB_rules]

And you know that based on your personal interactions with Punk or rumors that you read on the internet?

[@MrTeamGuy]

@@RB_rules don't give me that flat earth crap xD there is a thing called pattern that carefully observed could be noticed. Just saying, another work by controversial gimmick.

[@XainEisenhart]

Cody was smart to get out of AEW. The place is run like a backyard shitshow. Always stories involving the "AEW originals" and drama and unprofessionalism. Its worse than WCW and TNA. No wonder Cody couldn't take working with children anymore.

[@mikecameron2151]

In terms of All In and All Out,Tny said there is a public holiday here in the UK this week every year and a public holiday in the US next week and he wanted to keep tradition of wrestling on these public holiday. In terms of Jack Perry I don't understand what he thinks he is proving by using real glass in a spott This is probably why the new rules on getting approval for certain moves/spots was brought in

[@fabian4023]

Maybe Perry thinks he's being a tough guy, or is being more "real" by using real glass. But it's still very dangerous. Goldberg almost bled to death after smashing a car window in WCW.

[@wilnich592]

Maybe he just thought sugar glass looked too fake or something. Regardless it really is dangerous to work with. As mentioned before, Goldberg almost lost an arm punching in a legit car window.

[@milk_bath]

@@fabian4023 Different type of glass used in windshield than door windows. Try again.

[@fabian4023]

@@milk_bath Windshield glass is still dangerous. Just because its laminated and safer doesn't make it safe. Try again.

[@milk_bath]

@@fabian4023 Professional wrestling is still dangerous. Just because its collaborative and worked doesn't make it safe. Try again.

[@MinusFiveStars_]

Im done with the CM Punk bullshit. Im just gonna enjoy wrestling.

[@wwegamesHHH]

Its amazing how they didn't mention that fightful reported that it was jack perry who came to punks face

[@ghostface216]

Sounds like Perry was trying to get punk to pop off and get fired tbh

[@wilnich592]

Probably because there are multiple reports that claim the exact opposite. The version that makes Punk look good is not automatically the correct one.

[@Peter_Thornton]

Oh yeah- seems likely that CM Punk wanted to hunt down Jack Perry moments before his match because of some dumb glass spot that aired before his PPV match… it sounds like Jack was high on adrenaline and wanted to confront Punk at the optimal moment right before his match.

[@travisprice1325]

Your neck must be hurting from all that twisting you're doing. The glass issue wasn't the issue at all. Jack wanted to do a spot with no pay-off or value on "free" TV. Management said no. He threw a temper tantrum because he's never been told no. Tony S. said no... Jack cried. Then they got Punk to tell him no. The glass spot isn't the issue. Jack Perry's behavior is the issue. On a PPV, where the spot had value... Jack got to do it in a controlled setting. He thought he would be cute. What happened afterward is up for debate.

[@user-gc1wj8tt2p]

@@travisprice1325 these divas are crazy. Vince will flat out say hell no to their faces, tony khan need to grow some balls

[@Peter_Thornton]

@@travisprice1325 Bruh- my point is it would be silly for CM Punk to seek a confrontation before a match over something so asinine… it suggests that Jungle Jack initiated it, because it clearly seemed like a big deal to him.

[@Peter_Thornton]

@@travisprice1325 (… in other words, we don’t disagree)

[@chuckycheesechucky]

how many incidents involving Punk is it going to take to get marks to realize he's toxic? he's ALWAYS at the center of conflicts where ever he goes, even back to ROH

[@alo4912]

So what, it's the most interesting thing aew has going. Not like the TV storylines are any good

[@chuckycheesechucky]

@@alo4912 Gee, I wonder if you're a WWE mark

[@alo4912]

@realdannainan Ive definitely watched Aew more since its beginning. I just think the backstage drama is far more interesting than what they put on tv

[@joeyskywalker1322]

@@alo4912Backstage drama in AEW is better then what’s on television it’s a shame AEW doesn’t capitalize off any of the backstage drama and make it a on screen storyline

[@mrpickles7313]

The fact that you have a lower mid-carder who feels comfortable being openly disrespectful on the biggest event of all time just shows you the lack of leadership backstage and how the inmates are running the asylum.

[@rozodru4790]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Triple H was right about Punk essentially saying "He's your problem now" After his WWE Departure everyone was convinced it was WWE's fault but now? I 100% doubt that. The altercation with the Elite, Colt, Ryan Nemeth, Matt Hardy, possibly Miro and now Jack Perry? there's a common denominator here folks. The problem is TK has his nose so far up Punks ass he won't do anything about it. What's going to be the fall out THIS time? Punk gets another show? maybe his own PPV? Or does Punk just keep banning wrestlers from Collision? it'll get to the point where the roster for Collision is going to be Punk, FTR, HoB and Andrade and that's it until someone in that group makes Punk feel they "wronged" him in some fashion. If everyone you meet you feel smells like shit then buddy maybe it's time you look under your shoe. Don't get me wrong I used to be a huge CM Punk fan all the way back to his ROH days but now I just really wish he'd go away.

[@meciocio]

Triple H wasn't right about Punk. They literally forced him to work while injured and just mistreated him constantly. Of course the aew stooges like miro, matt hardy, chris jericho or jack perry are siding with the Elite. The Young Bucks, and also the executive vice presidents, basically hired all of them. Look at Jericho, he has the best time of his life because they let him do any kind of story/angle he wants too so he just turns a blind eye.

[@spheremode3271]

He didn't have an altercation with Colt. Wtf are you talking about? Are you implying he got Colt fired? Did he do that while he was suspended for Brawl Out too? Because aside from that one time, we've never seen Colt on anything, and Punk was sitting at home, not involved with anything. He also didn't do anything to Miro, it was just 1 tweet by Miro, nothing more.

[@silveredgrunion7196]

Its defintely a hot period. Im really enjoying the tv. Keep it up.

[@soli-mankenobi2001]

how is putting yourself through a real glass is a good idea ?

[@Trustme77]

They did it without either of them getting hurt, so it can't be *that* bad an idea. Not every spot involving real glass ends up like that spot in Angle vs. Shane McMahon.

[@wilnich592]

@Trustme77 The issue is that when shit goes wrong with real glass, it goes really, really, REALLY wrong. **Lethally** wrong. You're essentially juggling sharpened steak knives with the hope that one of them won't cut a vital artery somewhere. Real glass is also deceptively tough, too so it requires more blunt force (and consequently less finesse and accuracy) to break through.

[@Trustme77]

@@wilnich592 You can say that about a lot of things in wrestling, though. Sabu got his arm badly sliced open by barbed wire, for example. While I'm not a big fan of matches like that myself, I still wouldn't say that real barbed wire should never be used.

[@yxeaviationphotog]

Ok ......Perry wanted to use REAL GLASS for his Collision spot......he is told it's not safe by Punk and numerous backstage officials/doctors with AEW. Perry throws a fit. Fast forward to All In and Perry says "know what this is? Real glass. Cry me a river" and Punk isn't supposed to respond? Seriously......the whole glass argument was done and over with. Then Perry goes into business for himself on AEW's largest event ever. It's Hangman all over again. Are The Bucks and their buddies this desperate to get rid of Punk? Apparently there have been spots on ROH and BTE mocking Punk....and he's the bad guy here? Not to mention Punk's travel in London geyying screwed up because the AEW travel coordinator is buddies with the Bucks......frankly, if Punk quits AEW, he's probably better off than having to deal with a bunch of children.

[@Dr_1212]

All In Was an Awesome ppv to bad theres more C A punk bs backstage no matter thou The AEW Revolution of Wrestling Continues F the Haters

[@ChaseSchleich]

If a young guy like Jack Perry (who I'm a big fan of) ask Undertaker for permission to do a spot, gets told no, and throws a hissy fit over it, what do you think would happen? Then have him make a snarky comment on it live on PPV. Do you think a veteran like Taker would just ignore it? I highly doubt it. The young guy would probably get punched in the mouth. I don't agree with what Punk did at All Out last year. He greatly over reacted and sure as hell never should have said what he said. This is different though. This was Jack Perry being disrespectful and basically telling a veteran to fuck off live on PPV.

[@MrTeamGuy]

@@ChaseSchleich Thing is, people respect Taker. While Punk earned disrespect there. So if a guy who gest off script to talk ash*t about your friends, try to bury your friends, tells you not to do something or else. I guess it even improves the odds of actually doing the forbidden thing.

[@Trustme77]

@@ChaseSchleich Some veterans don't deserve respect. JBL doesn't deserve respect, for example. And Punk doesn't respect veterans either, because he thought in WWE that he was "locker room leader" and that he could order Booker T around. Booker showed him otherwise, responding to Punk's orders for everyone to pick up their trash by walking up to Punk and dumping trash on the floor in front of him. Punk, of course, punked out and didn't do anything about it, because he knew what would happen to him if he did.

[@emanuelfer456]

@@MrTeamGuyTrust me he would do even if it was Austin, The Rock or anyone else saying no. The Elite constantly go on interviews saying they dont listen to advice, they think they know it all

[@Dr_1212]

All In was Awesome AEW Revolution of Wrestling Continues with or without C A "1 Finger Phil" Punk

[@mooretoys94]

C.m. punk is an unprofessional and in all honesty, he is entitled to believe he is the smartest guy in pro wrestling because TK gives the boy everything.

[@AXWforever]

You left out the Elite fuk bois

[@spitfire7953]

All this over one guy wanting to go on vacation, and the other guy doesn't like using real glass. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Punk threw the first punch. Every issue is almost a fight for him. Like if anyone talking shit about him, shit goes down real fast. The guy doesn't know when to pick his battles. I'm not saying that Punk was in the wrong, we don't know what exactly happened backstage but there's been so many incidents you can't help but to ask is CM Punk actuality good for business?

[@frank-vt8yf]

It was doctors and officials who told him not to use glass.

[@spitfire7953]

@@frank-vt8yf but who got into an argument about it? Punk and Perry.

[@thedoubledowner5359]

@@spitfire7953because all reports have said that Tony S and the medical staff went to Punk to talk to Perry about not using the glass.

[@SamSamSamJ]

It doesn't matter who started it, CM Punk is going to chase off AEW's talent elsewhere. When folks contracts are up, anyone who has a problem with Punk is going to leave. TK needs to get rid of Punk immediately.

[@autumnhileman5453]

No one is going to pay these jobbers anything close to what Tony pays them, so no I don't think they will turn down a contract offer from Tony if he offers them one.

[@philanderphillips2309]

That goofy little child perhaps needs to talk to Bill Goldberg about the hazards of working with real glass.

[@jimmyramos7143]

Cm punk shouldn’t have put himself into Jungle Boys business, he isn’t the boss and doesn’t get decided he can and can’t use glass, especially considering he cries like a giant baby anytime some says anything to him

[@thagame7528]

It’s Punks show. Punk didn’t want the guy to die… that evil bastard

[@jimmyramos7143]

@@thagame7528 I didn’t know Punk was a secret billionaire paying all of collisions bills and clearly Jungle boy didn’t get hurt

[@willvelida]

lol Perry is in the wrong here. He should be fired for causing this drama. I know Punk is involved, but if you fuck around, you find out. That's what happened

[@loserhimself4044]

Punk will never become an adult in the room. Just let him keep pointing at trans signs getting injured and fighting with co-workers, he's the best in the world at those

[@kamc146]

Jungle boy gotta have the lowest IQ of anyone on the roster. Was a great show last night!

[@ozymandiastheking2139]

He apparently has an awful attitude. Refuses to respect or listen to veterans because they can't teach him anything.

[@daveborder7751]

@@ozymandiastheking2139 Just like Page, The Bucks & Omega then.

[@thagame7528]

Let him be Punk let those guys swim on their own

[@wilnich592]

@thagame7528 Except he doesn't. He physically assaults them when they make fun of him, and then he buries them on live television when he knows they can't swing back. Your favorite wrestler is a huge pussy. I'm sorry you had to find out this way.

[@ozymandiastheking2139]

@@daveborder7751 The Bucks and Omega are veterans. Omega spent years eating shit in Japan before he became a star. Hangman, yeah thats fair but at least he interacts with fans. Jungle boy has refused to give fans interactions they paid for or told them to fuck off just because he is in a shitty mood.

[@MandosWorld85]

I just watched two marks that make money for this who’s body language expressed a somewhat dislike towards each other find reasons to back up a company who incentivizes this kind of crap. Upon rereading this for editing purposes, I’ve become painfully aware of how sad it is that I pay this much attention towards wrestling. It all fucking sucks. Thank you gentlemen, this is the video that made me realize that if I want to get laid again, I need to absolutely stop watching wrestling altogether. Thanks guys.

[@LeoNxL2Hx]

🧐 gotta say, it was over and done with…until jack decided to open his mouth. I see why they kicked him out first. Even seeing him say that on air, I knew, he’s causing problems 🤦🏻

[@Aj6711]

AEW when the rumor and backstage shit is way more interesting then anything they put on tv

[@edbain6495]

The gaslighting of punk continues.

[@nox7282]

No, the making excuses for Punk continues...

[@dashingdreww1185]

Having all out in a week again next year and Wembley stadium again continues to confirms Tony is just playing with his”toy” and not treating it as a business

[@PaulReed]

Of all the stupid things to pick a fight over the fact that you want to use real glass for a fake injury time off with all the risks that involves has to be up there with the worst of them. I'm not a Punk fan at all but I'd side with him on this especially when Jack says that comment about real glass at All In. Pointless.. get over yourself, get over your ego. You're basically just starting your career. Don't make it one where you have a reputation as being a whiny little runt if you don't get your way.

[@daveborder7751]

This is the problem with letting Moxley do all his dumb garbage-others want to copy & you can't say no if you let him do as he pleases. I see he was having skewers stuck in his head again.

[@getuponthemike6341]

Is there a full video of this?

[@sepiarain]

Cry More Phil is a Cult of Personality Disorders. The voice of the vociferous. I sold my ticket to wembley a few weeks back because the vibe at AEW had just gone so flat since Cringe Magnet started throwing his weight around again. I bought and watched the PPV and found it mediocre at best, and definitely a let down... so I do not regret my decision one bit. With the exception of one or two matches, Collision is so fiercely dull. How the presence of one narcissistic, machiavellian sociopath can completely corrupt something that was so positive is beyond me.

[@wilcee238]

@sepiarain I know you cried while typing that essay.

[@sepiarain]

@@wilcee238 very original mate. 👍 - admittedly, I am pretty emotionally invested in good wrestling and wrestlers prevailing. So when a fragile prima donna begins dirty protesting at every turn because he can't stand to not be the centre of attention, it does irk me.

[@djdarq6311]

They got your money, mark

[@djdarq6311]

@@sepiarainso you love the cosplayers eh?

[@sepiarain]

@@djdarq6311 All wrestling is cosplay, you twerp!

[@timdurgan]

CM Punk is an employee and JP is an AEW original who helped build the place. Who the fuck is Punk to say "we don't do that here"?

[@AXWforever]

Because it's Punk's show🤷 as Elite stans like to picture it

[@bretts6861]

Perry is not long for the business. He’s what? 23 and needs a vacation. Vince hasn’t taken a vacation in 50 years.😂

[@wilnich592]

Vince is also a psychotic rapist.

[@Suspinded]

There's some power dynamic TK is permitting causing these issues. It's up to him to fix it. Why is Punk even in the situation to dictate what happens on Collision? Everything in the end falls on his shoulders to keep his backstage from sounding like a circus. He needs to be a leader and curb it.

[@keni95851]

he's not, he's a b*tch which is why he's given figurehead positions in other companies like the Jags.

[@wilnich592]

Ironically enough, TK seems to have the exact same mentality as the people who constantly blame everyone else BUT Punk whenever an incident involving Punk happens. He's a trust fund kid who really shouldn't be running a wrestling company. Or at the very least, not BOOKING one.

[@jessebaker2769]

It's been long speculated that Tony, as part of him hiring Punk, gave him an ownership stake in AEW and has been hiding this for a while since even the Elite don't own a part of the company and are just, at the end of the day, hired hands and it being one of the rumored reasons why the Elite despise Punk. Also, there have been rumors that to basically placate Punk being put in what amounts to a containment show, that MJF won't appear on Collision/defend the world title on Collision, and the fact that the Elite have been rumored to be threatening to blackball anyone who volunteers to work Collision, that Punk has been given complete booking control over Collision along with the tag titles/FTR being made exclusive to Collision; also why Punk was allowed to basically severe the world title lineage and declare himself the real world champion (since MJF won't defend his belt on Collision and only appeared so as to job to FTR as retaliation since MJF can't piss off the Elite by being a regular on Collision and have his big feud with Punk already).

[@NamesMcgee-dd2te]

CM Punk appears to be a problem backstage I'm starting to think the WWE was right in not bringing him back

[@vortex_1336]

Nah. This time it was Jungle Boy. Reports are that he walked up to Punk and shoved him. Got choked out for it.

[@carlDJS]

What do you mean they were right abouot not bringing him back? He's been under contract to AEW for 2 years, and was not wrestling for 7 years prior to that.

[@NamesMcgee-dd2te]

@@carlDJS and Vince didn't bring him back 3 years ago when Fox hired him because he knew Punk was locker room cancer

[@thagame7528]

He left them

[@thedoubledowner5359]

@@NamesMcgee-dd2teas far as I know, the feelings were mutual. Punk didn’t want to wrestle at that time. In fact, that point is where Seth got salty about Punk because he wanted to wrestle Punk and was turned down.

[@jeyfromnowhere]

All the big name New Japan guys are booked on the Destruction tour on and around October 1st.

[@RB_rules]

Maybe this kind of environment is what khan likes? Constant backstage drama and rumors. As long as khan pays the bills I guess people seem to be ok with it.

[@Salesman]

He must like it because all everyone talks about is the backstage stuff. Exactly how wrestling was in the late 90s, all we care about is the drama backstage.

[@MrTeamGuy]

@@bryrobinson5609 Bret/Vince/HBK drama, Macho/Hogan drama, WCW/WWF drama. 90s

[@RB_rules]

@@bryrobinson5609 I’m sure drama happened but it seems like AEW likes it.

[@wilnich592]

I'm sure he probably thinks he can spin it into an angle later or some shit. Except he can't, because when incident after incident keeps piling up and you don't do anything about it, that just makes you look incompetent and your company look bad.

[@flyervoracek5954]

I just hear this situation and I just can’t think anything other than Jack Perry is a child. He gets told to not do something dangerous involving glass that wouldn’t have moved ratings or been remembered like a month later by everyone under the sun involved with Collision and he throws a tantrum that has to be handled by Punk. Then, when he gets green lit by Khan to do the spot (on the pre-show of all things for no reason), he isn’t focusing on how to slam Hook so it’s safe but looks like they’re in a real fight. Instead, he completely breaks the immersion of the show by taking a jab at someone completely not involved in the match that made no sense to do in that moment. I’m trying to be fair, but how on earth did he think that would go over? He’s already being made a heel because of how lukewarm he’s been as a babyface and his poor, aloof attitude at fan festivals, so as much as this might be on brand for Punk, it’s just as much so for Perry and he does a lot less for AEW than Punk.

[@doubles7533]

Bryan looked so disinterested constantly checking his phone lol

[@batmang9014]

I'd be bored too talking about Deadbeat Phil again

[@theSuperviLLain_est]

Checking his notes - you could see him reading them while Reporting

[@YourJamaicanChief]

@@batmang9014Jack was the one who started the shit but ok

[@yazr1712]

It must be exhausting and he must be exhausted. I don't blame him.

[@LaurenWeir739]

was the same on video yesterday / Saturday . Jetlag ?

[@ZeroShaneBob]

The people who heard about this story, and say "Punk wasn't wrong this time" baffle me. We don't even have the full story, because everything surrounding the original glass argument is all over the place in the dirt sheets. Jack may have had a good reason to be annoyed by Punk. Also, what right does Punk have to continuously intimidate, and get in younger wrestler's faces? This is an over 40+ year old man picking fights with people 20 years younger than him. Instead of being a mature adult, he's acting like a tough guy in middle school. If he was upset by Jack's comments, he could have just told management to deal with it instead of trying to get physical over it. It's the most immature response possible. Punk is a literal Diva who can't stand the slightest negativity thrown his way. If the guy quits AEW, I would be extremely happy. I'm so sick of hearing about this dude acting like a child. The irony is he said "I work with f**king children". The guy has little self awareness about how he acts.

[@paulevans6076]

Punk seems to be quite the volatile person backstage - The Elite, Hangman, now Perry. I'm definately getting the vibes that maybe Punks trying to be/or is a bit of a locker room leader backstage and isn't afraid to say things or get involved in things, hence all the drama somehow always revolving around him. That being said, the comment by Perry was a bit childish and unnecessary about the car windshield and seeing how Punk reacts to things its not surprising that this happened between the two afterwards. Hopefully they can work it out and it'd be a nice little lead in to a future feud between the two.

[@jamesmiller5331]

Punk also flexing a bit because he wants those other guys to know that he is just as important or maybe think he's even more important than they are. And by those other guys I'm talking about the EVPs

[@thagame7528]

Punk is dumb for reacting but he was reacting. Why was perry being a little weasel about it

[@PepsiMan666]

You forgot Nick Nemeth

[@jhb4uk149]

@@thagame7528 Unlike last time/last year, when shit is said on social media or guys going into business for themselves, Punk is immediately calling them out. Last year he let Hangman go into business on him in the promo about "protecting the locker room from you" and didn't do anything. That festered and festered leading to the All Out Scrum explosion. This time around Punk is immediately calling troublemakers out. Nemeth 2 months ago, Perry last night.

[@aspect1200]

I can see Punk wanting to be locker room leader. The problem is no one else sees him as or wants him as a leader.

[@Funkmonkv1]

Going by the NJPW stars that usually work shows in America that aren’t booked in Japan on Oct 1st are ZSJ, Will Ospreay, Kojima & KENTA.

[@royb5820]

Oh shit! It’s Bryan and Dave! Straight hangin! Chillin! What I didn’t know I needed!

[@thagame7528]

Or wante.d

[@freakmagnet2737]

I see a pattern on this altercations

[@johnobrien1759]

It is so funny that CM punk is whooping these guys one by one. He comes from a time where if you run your mouth, there are consequences. If you don’t want to get beat up, then don’t run your mouth. Respect people and people will respect you.

[@zacthebuzzkill]

Right, especially when your athletic background is being the son of a guy on 90201 F Jack Perry.

[@Ceiling_Gato]

Why is he dodging Hangman tho

[@robertcrist5747]

What do you think Dave? Punk gets 8 stars for setting your boys straight again with the old Goozle treatment? Two for two!

[@demoth]

First it was teddy hart. Than vince, hhh and cena. Than hangman and the elite. than bobby fish and now jungle boy. At some point u gotta stop blaming other people and look at the man in the mirror.

[@Ridwan_Ali2]

11:56 Just histonic day 81,000 at Wembley Stadium us English fans love wrestling and AEW

[@ToxicAvengerCleanYourMind]

I think Jungle Boy thinks he's been annoited as the new Shawn Michaels and walks around believing it. He hasn't been very special though and doesn't come across as any legitimate bad ass they're trying so desperately to get actoss and feels way too forced as being portrayed as some blue chip superstar. He's not interesting, wrestlers weak with no impact on his moves, and still is not over with fans. He's not unlikeable because he's a heel; he's unlikable because his lack of charisma, his underserved push into too many storylines, and overall unbelievability as a top wrestler. He's stealing potential stories away from the Cage's, Hobbs's, and Big Bill's of AEW when he gets all this air time and is just another one of Khans favorite puny wrestlers who aren't intimidating or believable as a "future main eventet"

[@mattb6616]

He's awful but he's friends with the bucks so he's going to get pushed

[@wilnich592]

The very notion that you think fucking Big Bill deserves any more screen time or more booking than he already gets proves to me that you should never be allowed to work anywhere near the wrestling business.

[@NZeroKurosaki]

i really like CM Punk, great wrestler and performer. However, i think AEW should not renew his contract. First the Elite, now Jack Perry.

[@johnnieriot13]

Cm punk really is a cancer to the locker room. AEW went from all friended wrestling to all enemies wrestling

[@thagame7528]

Maybe but he did not ignite this incident clearly. He maybe be thin skinned and petty but the other guy sent a shot at him first

[@bryan-still-a-poker-player]

"Its really interesting he picked that date. Really interesting he chose him" - why is it interesting dave? We may never know cause dave just says things, he doesnt finish all his thoughts.

[@StuntmanMike11]

Bryan’s manspreading is off putting…

[@WhiteLlama]

Maybe Jack Perry shouldn't have gone into business for himself on camera.

[@ZeroShaneBob]

CM Punk has "Went in to business for himself" like 5 times on camera. He's a hypocritical man-child.

[@wilcee238]

I didn’t think I could like Punk any more after he slapped the Young Cucks around; until I heard he choked out Jungle Toy. If he wasn’t straightedge I’d buy him a beer.

[@tonyclifton2230]

As if punk could pull off a submission.

[@leemoore8446]

​​@@tonyclifton2230well he did on Jungle boy choked him clean out and then jabbed him a couple of times for the road 😂

[@tonyclifton2230]

@@leemoore8446 I heard different.

[@leemoore8446]

@@tonyclifton2230 sure my guy 🤦‍♂️...Google it since you know more than everybody else.

[@leemoore8446]

@@tonyclifton2230 look my guy thr details are out you can be delusional and say" that's not what I heard" all day doesn't change the fact it happened.

[@thelmjc]

Any idea how much travel from rest of Europe and US there was?

[@DeathofaNINJA]

I feel bad for CM Punk. He has nothing but good intentions for AEW and has been treated like Jesus before he was hung on the cross. The peasants (AEW marks) want him executed for good works.

[@guslima1130]

Do you honestly believe that?

[@lindajiron2557]

Punk is the common denominator in these backstage incidents. Negative vibes!

[@thagame7528]

🛑

[@homersimpson7096]

This company is such an embarrassment

[@Funkmonkv1]

Tony Khan said at the scrum that there were 1,000 comp tickets, so the actual fan paid attendance was 80,035. So they didn’t break the record. As for Wrestle Dream NJPW has a show the same day so AEW won’t get guys like Okada, Tanahashi, Naito, SANADA, Ishii & more. Wrestle Dream to honour Inoki without Okada & Tanahashi is just not right at all. Did Tony check with NJPW before announcing the ppv?

[@dynamicpenguin55]

He very explicitly said that it was 81035 paid, with comps and hospitality taking it to about 90k

[@MardyBum100291]

​@@dynamicpenguin55Wasn't anywhere near 90k look at the empty seats 😂

[@Funkmonkv1]

@@dynamicpenguin55if there counting all that, WWE still holds the record as they counted all that too in the final number.

[@carl5381]

Regardless of WWE mark coping, there’s two things to take away here 1. Pretty impressive showing for AEW but 2: this is the UK where big shows are rare so take it for what it’s worth. The question is whether or not they can build on this in the US and Tony start taking charge of the bs in the back. AEW will never be like WWE until Tony can be the owner and not their buddy

[@robmatheny2412]

Working the marks. It’s a complete and total work.