More regarding the CM Punk/Ace Steel/Elite altercation: Wrestling Observer Radio

Bryan and Dave discuss the latest regarding the altercation between CM Punk, Ace Steel, and The Elite, what caused the underlying tension, what needs to be done, and much more. [September 6, 2022]
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[@kwestopher5885]

It has to physically hurt Dave to not interrupt Bryan

[@coledelahooke809]

🤣😂

[@alessiogallerano7563]

@ny giants fan raider fan bro the demo part got me hahahah

[@jamesmckay9483]

*papers shuffling furiously in the background*

[@venom74799]

@ny giants fan raider fan Don’t forget the “ummm”

[@deadlymixx]

For real. I can’t stand this mf. If it weren’t for Bryan I wouldn’t listen to this shit lol

[@gorgeousrantsofwrestling5158]

I've heard voices that Steel kicked out of the One Winged Angel backstage.

[@philc.5100]

😆 I heard that Lary the dog kicked out of the V trigger

[@greyskywarren6028]

Well yeah, cause he probably bit Kenny during the maneuver.

[@Robdobalina]

1…2…”hey you mischievous cat!” 💃

[@nefilim5800]

Idk about that, bitting and pulling hair is not something you do unless you're getting your ass kicked 😂

[@JokersRWildStudios]

Randy Orton is All Elite?!

[@jeremyblase]

This is going to make for one fantastic “dark side of wrestling” episode years from now

[@mojo0risin]

Rise and fall of AEW

[@ShadyDBZ4]

@@mojo0risin Rise & Takeover of AEW * Fixed it for you. You’re welcome.

[@nWoKilluminati]

Idk if punk being a big baby is gonna compare to the stories they’ve done

[@ShadyDBZ4]

@@nWoKilluminati “big baby” just whooped Matt Jackson’s ass. 🤣😂🥲

[@geeloco1600]

@@ShadyDBZ4 takeover? Wishful thinking

[@alokpandey8317]

Ace Steel bit Kenny Omega, threw chair on Nick Jackson and Punk punched Matt Jackson. Just another 5 star match for Omega and Bucks.

[@John_Souls]

Weird they did not put themselves over in this one.

[@alokpandey8317]

@@John_Souls they were being generous

[@dceres7443]

lol

[@bennett420316]

Ace Steel is a porno name, not anyone who should be biting the God of pro wrestling

[@shriyut]

Good for Punk finally having a 5 star match in AEW

[@mason2044]

What a wild week Ace Steel has had. from being an unknown employee, cutting the best promo of your life, to biting Kenny Omega and most likely losing your job.

[@fluxuation87]

Half the internet complained they didn’t know who he is and now they’ll never forget his name. Dude needs to be in the HOF

[@NorrisJonesYT]

If he ends up fired, this is up there with Daniel Bryan getting fired after the nexus debut as a wild week.

[@leir2005]

Ace Steele has an AEW contract so it depends on how much time is left on his contract. Remember that Tony Khan doesn’t fire people, he lets their contract run out and then he ghosts them. He has a big, bloated roster because he won’t fire anyone

[@drewspods]

@@leir2005 He fired that goth weirdo that did strictly garbage matches

[@WillReacts]

@@NorrisJonesYT if he bit a guy then yea hes fired lmao

[@zach1574]

Bryan: says anything Dave: We’ll actually *rambles for minutes on end about literally nothing

[@Big_Boss_22]

I mean, like..

[@nicktocco9126]

Dave: No no no no no no no no no, I mean like, look, the thing is, it’s like, so so so so

[@greghughes6098]

Ummm ummmm yeah ummmmm

[@LukeforcePHD]

Dave interrupts his own sentences to ramble tirelessly.

[@jacksonjacob7791]

I totally zone out when Dave rambles on and on. Next thing I know I've just listened to a 20 minute video and can't even really remember if anything of significance was said.

[@jasona7789]

Dear Dave, please let Bryan speak. He speaks clearly and concisely.

[@mprice6683]

You don't like the 5 minutes of information Dave takes 30 minutes to explain?

[@ramireigns]

Me and the youngsters will finally know how watching WWF in 97 with Bret and Shawn felt

[@CaptainColdyron222]

Without the talent of Bret and Shawn.

[@chrisford7909]

It was awesome!!! But this has so much more digital media options it's gonna be a trip!!!!!

[@heyiamnick4144]

@@CaptainColdyron222 Omega is definitely as talented

[@jasonperez1215]

Thats a no

[@dontlikeidiots377]

@@heyiamnick4144 nope not possible

[@JohnnyFlash-]

The thing that stands out to me: If you are truly in a leadership position, it's your job to mitigate items like this, even if you don't want to.

[@BabysitterSky]

Remember, these are the guys who couldn't even manage a target (which is actually hard. They make 6 figures for a reason)

[@Jonathan-om1wq]

@@BabysitterSky Vince McMahon and Triple H couldn't manage CM Punk either. He's a miserable, spiteful douche.

[@erikstorm8935]

@@BabysitterSky I think HHH and Steph will have trouble managing WWE, albeit for very different reasons. Im quite sure they'll be tough on their workers. But Im not sure they'll be able to manage a multi-billion dollar company. Luckily, in their case, they have Nick Khan to help.

[@chrisainsworth8575]

Hard to manage anything when people are punching you in the face

[@dondunn7]

TK sat there looked like a teenager who's dad gave him £100m to run a wrestling hobby

[@Tlong]

So far the build is incredible for The Elite vs Punk & FTR for those new trios titles!

[@soulreaper6661]

Would hope they would do that as it would be amazing

[@ShadyDBZ4]

LOL!!! 🤣 It’s not a work.

[@GQFJB]

@@ShadyDBZ4 yes it is… ur a special mark if u can’t see it.

[@chriskay1449]

AEW marks continue to be delusional. This is not a work no matter how much you try to convince yourself otherwise.

[@FilmThePoliceFTP]

@@GQFJB I thought so too because it’s wrestling. I don’t think the young bucks take anything serious enough to do something like this. They don’t know how to be serious, only smarmy little smart asses who want to get their friends paid. I’m not saying punks right if it’s real, but the elite only want to get their fiends paid, not start a serious company.

[@richiebkbkbk]

Shouldn't Ace, Punk and Larry the Dog be Trios champions now?

[@michaelminton8143]

Hell yeah... Better then the watching super kicks and omega shaking all the time

[@michaelhuenefeld7611]

Well played, sir.

[@Tim85-y2q]

It would be better than the ones we have. I hear Larry's a fighter.

[@Kr4ShSkeL]

not larry, the chair !

[@EyeSeeSports]

The line that still gets me is Punk saying right in front of TK "I have a company to run." This is gold if TK can spin this the right way.

[@gjcfp36]

He obviously doesn't respect TK to rant like that right next to him but I think he said he has a business to run he was talking about his own brand.

[@trentshape]

@@gjcfp36 Exactly, he said business

[@DaboRanch]

I think it’s a dig at the EVP’s as well. Punk is doing greater business than the Elite and drawing incredible money,meanwhile the EVP’s are playing telephone.

[@Uuusssaaas]

He was discussing the business of CM Punk, and not that of Tony Kahn.

[@liandopus9922]

He said 'bussiness' not 'company'.. Difference meaning

[@alr1129]

To be fair, Meltzer prepared Bryan to be a good PATIENT dad that doesn’t explode when his kid interrupts him.

[@Suq3rst4r]

Dave would've given the fight 7 stars if Okada had jumped in.

[@cameron3578]

Who wouldn't

[@ivanpabon2741]

But it wasn't at the Tokyo dome

[@valeriaibarra4049]

Nah, Ospreay

[@teflonmongoose4973]

@@ivanpabon2741 it'd be 8 stars then.

[@BabysitterSky]

"We don't have footage of it but talking to 3 people who were there, I give it 8 stars"

[@Bishop545454]

My god it would take Dave 5 months to narrate a Dr. Seuss book.

[@fwef7445]

ummmmmmmm

[@charliesmith6519]

Epic!

[@yoholmes273]

Uh UH Uh Ummmmmmmm

[@greghughes6098]

So so so I will umm umm not eat them in a box

[@ozzymetfan]

I can't believe TK didn't stop the scrum and speak to Punk privately. This was really bad look for AEW

[@danielstack4158]

That would've been awkward as hell, but maybe he should have done that.

[@ozzymetfan]

@@danielstack4158 Less awkward than a fight backstage between his top guys

[@bileductable]

I can't believe that TK didn't shut those stupid Colt Cabana rumors down with a simple press release and a meeting between the goofball elite and Punk. Punk kept quiet for months and then let it all out

[@Trustme77]

But Luke, it's not TK's company, it's CM Punk's! Did you not hear Punk say "I'm trying to run a business"? Tony Khan is in no position to tell his boss what to do. (I'm kidding of course, but maybe the company might as well belong to Punk given everything that he's gotten away with.)

[@dangerousdays2052]

AEW has become WCW at its worst. TK is Bischoff. CM Karen is Hogan only he can't draw, lol.

[@AdamHammer69]

thanks Dave for taking 5 minutes to explain what a witness is

[@VeryStupid4547]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@freddyp319]

😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Radeo]

on the spectrum, can't help it

[@ShamrocK1986]

Lol

[@yoholmes273]

DAVE is CRINGE

[@OneDrewThree]

9:06 "No one is disputing that Ace Steel threw a chair and hit Nick" "...in the eye.." 🤣🤣🤣

[@mistahunko2784]

It’s the year 2032 Dark Side of the Ring Ep: All Out Altercation. I’m calling it

[@351tgv]

DSOTR: Plane ride from Hell vs DSOTR: Press Conference off the Rails and part 2 Locker Room Train wreck VINCE make it happen.

[@Franface31]

I'd name it All Out War.

[@cameronallen5043]

How many stars did Dave give the altercation?

[@TribalThief]

0 because his little buckeroos and twinkle toes got their ass's handed to them

[@cruzcorp914]

Probably 10

[@AndyLifeInVideo]

3 1/4 because it wasn't in the Tokyo Dome.

[@glynnb6572]

He gave it 1 because punk punched one of the wimps to no comeback! And omega got it given to him as well. Imagine storming into a room mob handed and everyone finding out you didn't lay ONE FINGER on anyone.

[@markrobinson9394]

He would have given it 50 stars if Omega and the Bucks had come out on top. Extra stars for any Superkicks landed.

[@greyskywarren6028]

You can't tell me that during this altercation there wasn't at least 15-20 super kicks thrown in addition to the chairs and punches.

[@ronniejdio9411]

2 back flips and a finger rake

[@erikstorm8935]

Nope. No parties allowed backstage xD.

[@ian0143]

I imagine it was more like an early 2010 divas match.

[@rubberchix]

Unfunny comment

[@mayomonkey-gen1]

Meltzer gave the altercation 8 stars.

[@kingdingaling413]

Dave pretending he doesn’t have a cozy relationship with the bucks is laughable

[@Mecha82]

You must be comfortable with that tin hat on.

[@kingdingaling413]

@@Mecha82 😂 really? 39 people in 1 hour apparently agree with me that it’s obvious Dave simps hard for the young cucks

[@PhinneusPrune]

No. That is not how it started. Punk was fishing for somebody to say Colt Cabana. He went to 1 journalist he knew had a relationship with Cabana. And set him up. Punk asked the guy, "You still freestyle?". Or some nonsense. The Jounalist said, "Not in a long time". Punk then followed up with, "Who did you used to do that with?". The Journalist said, "Colt Cabana". Then Punk said, "Is he your friend?" ... and then Punk used that as a way to bring up the whole Colt bashing. So Punk had it planned from the start. Planned because of a shoot? Or planned because he now had a forum to get it off of his chest once and for all.

[@rl318]

Many people like Punk, and he makes his living talking, but anyone who has been around real people in the real world can see how fugazi he is at times. He name-dropped Kingston in this rant again, mentioned Eric Bischoff for some reason, and dragged Adam Cole's name in it, trying to sound optimistic about him but knowing who he is friends with.

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

Yes. This is how it happened during the scrum. Punk I think found an opening to shoot on Colt

[@geeloco1600]

@@rl318 who cares it’s for our entertainment, you guys are super weird taking this way to serious who cares

[@kamikoto1558]

Stop

[@rl318]

Well, if it is real and negatively affects their business, I hope the people that like this sort of thing are very entertained. If this costs them in the long run, I hope the people cheering it on don't start crying and making up conspiracy theories about what went wrong.

[@ncvogt]

Meltzer is really great at saying a lot without saying anything. A real talent to be that incredibly verbose.

[@jonathanmays8203]

It's a really special skill

[@adiaz973]

Exactly

[@outpost206]

I feel like my brain would turn to mush too if I watched as many Kenny Omega and Young Bucks matches as Dave has.

[@vladdebrancovan7011]

It is impressive with his limited vocabulary and poor sentence structure.

[@drchtct]

Why are you here then

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

This is the reason I hate shoot promos. They always end up petty, full of angry people and no money in the long term. Stop feeding the smarks and get on with the program.

[@DMG118]

Imagine if they had to work in a normal job where most people don't like 99% of the people they work with

[@MyChannel-ol1zz]

99%? You should get a new job

[@BabysitterSky]

@@MyChannel-ol1zz He wouldn't like 99% of the new people.

[@burgerdaveee]

@@PanelVulture punk is far from their best

[@rriggs6547]

If you don't like 99% of the people you work with you need a new job. And maybe a good therapist.

[@8thaccount535]

@@PanelVulture The Bucks aren't Punk's boss lol, Tony is the only person Punk answers to.

[@apjapki]

You can really see why old school promoters kept loyal shooters on standby in case they needed to get belts off people ASAP. People who have been unprofessional and may not cooperate.

[@chriskay1449]

Vince did that to Wendi Richter back in the 1980's when he put Moolah under a mask and had her shoot on Wendi.

[@stanjones9643]

Mark Henry told the story of someone sh*tting in the Rock's food....is that unprofessional? Stop making out to be bigger than it is. Do you need be reminded of Shawn and Brett feud..."Hairgate"

[@apjapki]

@@stanjones9643 What are you even trying to say? The cops broke up a fight. The guy went off script to bury someone he wasn't feuding with and the whole thing makes the company look bad. Are you trying to say it wasn't unprofessional?

[@marti5420]

@@stanjones9643 no dude, this is pretty bad, not only by wrestling standards but also by CM Punk standards. It's one thing for some shit to happen back stage, it's a whole other thing to bury the entire company while talking about elevating everyone around you, claiming other people shit where they eat while shitting where you eat, doing all this Infront of your boss forcing him to seem like he agree with your ramblings, doing so as the world champ, while taking your shit out on the media who keeps you relivant in this modern age of wrestling. This is an actual public shit show

[@andrewhucher]

@@marti5420 exactly. Punk literally buried the whole company. TK should have used the opportunity of Punk losing to Mox to move away from the Punk as champ project. Now either they have to hope he shows up to drop the belt or strip him of the title. I don't know anyone who has ever kept their job after completely shitting on the company, then attacking the higher ups. For someone who is straight edge the dude acts like a drunk teenager at a house party.

[@MekanikKommandoh88]

Seeing a neutered TK sit next to Punk as he absolutely murdered the Bucks and Hangman with a live mic was phenomenal. My favorite moment was when he was CLEARLY texting Jericho to get the hell in there, please. Not sure how you ever show your face in that locker room again lmao.

[@vrixmorr]

Tk should just leave and rename aew to apw All Punk Wrestling

[@83442handle]

APW hahahaha

[@8thaccount535]

@@vrixmorr Couldn't be worse than AEW already is.

[@rleonardgreen78]

Noone respects the mark anyway. They know he's weak and spineless.

[@Natehawke]

Tbh Punk seems like the kind of guy who gets emotionally self-righteously ragey, and becomes totally impossible to deal with short of just accommodating whatever he wants/feels Not exactly someone great to work with...

[@dangerousdays2052]

CM Karen is universally hated in the wrestling business. This is nothing new.

[@coreyk1501]

@@dangerousdays2052 maybe the Bucks shouldn't start something they can't finish.

[@Trustme77]

There are a lot of stories. I was a fan of Punk years ago as far back as when he cashed in MITB on Jeff Hardy, and later on I loved how he called out WWE's shortcomings both in-character as part of his program with Cena, and a few years later when he was shooting on Colt Cabana's "Art Of Wrestling" podcast. I don't believe he was making up everything he said about WWE and I think there are a lot of pricks in that company (particularly the guy who recently stepped down), but I've got to remember that some of the guys who justifiably criticize WWE aren't always good people themselves. Anyway, I think it's entirely possible that Punk actually had nothing to do with Colt being moved to ROH...but it's also possible that he did, or maybe there's a third scenario like TK thinking "Uh oh, do I want to risk having these two guys who hate each other in the same locker room? Better keep them separated." (If that was what happened, then that would mean TK ended up preventing drama and possible fistfights between Punk and Colt, but created a situation where now Hangman had a problem with Punk that was perhaps even worse since it interfered with their program.) In any case, Punk didn't make the rumor about him being the reason Colt's no longer in AEW any LESS plausible. Dude says he doesn't care about his old friend while bringing Colt up completely unprompted and going on and on about him instead of, y'know, how he just won the title or something. I think maybe that would've been more relevant, but what do I know?

[@RoryMonaghan]

@@coreyk1501 did Punk finish it? It doesn’t sound like it. Who is the Ken guy. What kind of man bites someone?

[@calebcollins5625]

Idk. I'm starting to hear thats its really the bucks and egas camp who does this But who knows anymore with this company lol

[@jonpower9728]

This will make Meltz think twice about skipping the next scrum.

[@puipui7382]

Wasn't he there?

[@jonpower9728]

@@puipui7382 yeah, but him and Alvarez said they were debating whether to go or not.

[@dngn4774]

@@jonpower9728 tbh all of the others were actually more embarrassing than a fight. It’d be half a dozen “journalists” lobbing softballs and gushing over how much they love the product. That’d be like if a political commentator told the incumbent they were interviewing that they always vote for them. Just cringe.

[@chriskay1449]

AS he explained, he would have seen it even if he was not there because he would watch it online.

[@jonpower9728]

@@dngn4774 Which is also what you get in WWE media scrums. Moral if the story? Skip scrums.

[@mattheffner6831]

Ace Steel didn't miss with his chair shot

[@doddsino]

Tony is totally not going to punish Punk. Given all the shit he pulled recently, he knows he has Tony by the balls. Steel will be the fall guy, and I doubt anything else will come of it.

[@HellShoot]

If Steel falls, Punk is out

[@yv2521]

If Punk is who he say he is. He will quit on the deserving so dismissal of Ace.

[@protolegacy9184]

I think you are right.Punk is one of the few that bring in any sort of numbers and he paid him big money.He might keep him off TV for a week but thats about it.Punk will quit over all of this before he gets fired.I wonder if it came down to it who would Tony keep,Punk or the Bucks,Page and Omega? Punk is awefully popular but is getting up there and will get another injury.Money talks in the end.Oh yea.Scrooge McDuck is awesome.

[@jedsithor]

If he punishes Punk he has to punish the Bucks and Kenny too. Nobody is blameless in this situation. Punk is a ratings driver and the Bucks and Kenny are EVPs so Tony is going to have to find a way to sort it out. I don't envy his position though he is partly to blame because he should have addressed the Cabana rumours as soon as they started to spread but he didn't.

[@jonuiuc]

Lol fire the Elite, then you can stop paying exec salaries and clamp down on people using rumors as personal pr outlets.

[@chobidekharasor]

It's nice to know that steel chairs were actually used in a backstage shoot fight. I wish someday ladders and tables will be used too.

[@wwewrestlingbd8151]

আরে দাদা।বাঙালী!

[@tommccarron4517]

Punk Has had issues with people in CZW, ROH, ECW, WWE, UFC and now AEW. Maybe JUST MAYBE he's the problem

[@wilcee238]

Cody left AEW, and Jim Cornette refused to work there. Maybe they’re the problem.

[@tommccarron4517]

@@wilcee238 blaming Jim Cornette is bold. Maybe it's Paul Pogba's fault?

[@pjmathison9787]

@@tommccarron4517 it’s Jeremy corbyns fault

[@85futureshock]

Maybe its not Snitsky’s fault

[@tommccarron4517]

@@pjmathison9787 Daily Mail agrees!

[@MikeyScott90210]

Listen to these two, they poured the gasoline and are just wondering out loud why there's a fire.

[@MrBxberto]

So if they fire Ace Steel, Punk probably quits. The EVPs already threatened to walk so imagine what would happen if they get punished in some way. But then Eddie Kingston got suspended for way less! How do you punish him but not these top-tier guys?? What. A. Mess.

[@lamelama22]

So punish everybody? and let the police figure the rest out re: charges. The EVPs already pushed out Cody with the same tactics, but unlike Cody, Punk won’t take it, certainly not quietly, and can’t go back (probably) to WWE.

[@rriggs6547]

@@lamelama22 Cody has stated very clearly and often that he has no issue with Kenny and the Bucks. They are still friends and on good terms. We don't know what the issue was, but it was with TK. As for the problems with Punk, there are multiple reports that young and low card talent can't stand Punk and that he treats them like dirt. I wasn't there so I don't know what all the facets of the issues are. It is every bit as likely that Page was standing up for the locker room and/or the EVPs were trying to be locker room leaders and deal with a wrestler who has become an issue. Or they could just not like him. We don't know and all of the he said/she said won't figure it out. What I do know is that many people have claimed Punk acted like a jerk in ROH. We all saw the issues Punk was involved with in WWE. If the same thing keeps happening to one person over and over again then the overwhelming likelihood is that they are the issue.

[@xavierrhcp13]

@@rriggs6547 Cody is very political, he's not gonna say much. The Bucks and Omega are 100% a problem in that company. Punk is just the guy who didnt take their shit or was afraid of getting fired.

[@billywashere6965]

@@lamelama22 Punk pushed Cody out. Rewatch the interview he did with Rasslin' where he pointd out the problems with the new guys coming in (i.e., Punk). He called it "tumultuous". Punk got rid of Cody, not the Bucks.

[@rriggs6547]

@@xavierrhcp13 And see, if Omega and the Bucks had a history of doing this in the several other companies they have worked for (where there is no history of this) then I would absolutely be looking at them first. Instead, we have Punk who has been known for being at the center of similar issues in multiple other promotions. I don't know what really happened, but the patterns suggest the root of the problem is most likely Punk. But that doesn't mean it definitely is or that I am not willing to change my mind given evidence. To this point there isn't enough evidence to make a definitive statement. There is enough evidence to show where people should start looking.

[@xGodofAcidx]

For all of Vince McMahon's shortcomings, and I would be the first to point most of them out, he did have an understanding about having to have some control over the locker room, because it is the wild west and this is what happens when the promoter is more concerned about being everybody's friend. Tony better get a handle on this in a hurry because this is becoming a widespread issue for AEW.

[@TheFinishedArticle]

The WWE talent feared Vince, they don’t fear Tony at all.

[@CannedHam2479]

Nailz choked Vince, and Bret knocked him out.. Great "control" of the locker room there. lol

[@ronarnold1507]

80s Vince actually *wanted* the guys to be at each other's throats in the locker room, because it was his main strategy to keep them from forming a union like Jesse Venture wanted to do. Hogan was his main shit-stirrer / snitch, and that's how Hogan became the master politician that he did.

[@ronniejdio9411]

Enough with the revisinist history. Vince himself was in numerous fights. Jesus christ when he wasn't he was covering up rapes and murders.

[@gjcfp36]

Vince was notorious for buddying up to the wrestlers and he let the clique run roughshod over him in the 90s. He only became a hardass in the 2000s when there was no competition for them to go to and he got too old to want to hang with the boys anymore. TK looked awful at the presser and lacks experience but he'd handled in-house issues fine until now. Even Vince could only handle Punk for so long.

[@DisasterMaggot]

No matter who's "side" you are on all eyes are on TK, especially by those in the locker room. If he does nothing he loses respect and loyalty from his workers. Both respect and loyalty were in question before this, that is likely now more than in question than previously.

[@john_WayneRidesAgain]

Amen. Rather what comes out. Tony fostered the environment, rather he believes it or not. He let multiple people walk all over him, including punk now. Hes gotta doing something to show HE runs the show. If he holds back for ratings, or buy rates, or whatever BS...than hes no better than bishoff

[@DisasterMaggot]

@@john_WayneRidesAgain before this happened, I watched an alpha chimp fail at leadership and he was overthrown by a challenger, the alpha submitted like a coward. Not too different from this, the chimps threw hands too.

[@Orpheusftw]

He looked like an absolutely spineless simp.

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

Exactly. If TK do not do something about this, the roster will definitely lose respect for him

[@bls8959]

Maybe the network will have to step in

[@jakeyflakes00]

I love AEW, but this is extremely embarrassing. These are grown men fighting like children. What a terrible look for the company

[@dogsbreakfast4952]

😂 it’s good for business look at the hype they generated

[@vrixmorr]

What are you 8? This is pro-wrestling at its finest

[@jakeyflakes00]

@@dogsbreakfast4952 I hope you’re right and I’m just ignorant to all of it.

[@jakeyflakes00]

@@vrixmorr Yeah, it’s pro wrestling so people can just bite and throw chairs at each other and air grievances in the most unhealthy way. As much as you may not like to hear it, in any business there needs to be a sense of order. The only order in AEW is the dark order and even they are hardly there anymore. I don’t give a shit if it was war dude, doesn’t change the fact it is a B A D L O O K.

[@vrixmorr]

@@jakeyflakes00 dude it's not your business to care about the working of AEW. Are you employed by them? If not, then shut up and enjoy this once in a lifetime program unfolding before your eyes

[@johnmancini4403]

Eddie Kingston warned everyone about Punk many times during their feud. He's always been a locker room cancer.

[@phillipbrown2318]

This is very truth he has always been a trouble maker.

[@herringstheseries]

Wait… Isn’t Kingston the same guy who just got back from a suspension for putting his hands on Sammy Guevara?

[@hevykevy316]

@@herringstheseries in Eddie's defence, he held up his hands and acknowledged he was in the wrong, and took it on the chin. All the while taking indie bookings and donating his fee from one of them to charity.

[@phillipbrown2318]

@@herringstheseries Eddie Kingston didn't even touch him and he got suspended so you gonna to let this Slide because he Cm Punk.

[@billywashere6965]

Triple H, and Hangman, too. Everybody keeps ignoring the warning signs.

[@paddy1451]

Omg can Dave just stop interrupting Bryan and STOP trying to make everything single point about how he was involved in some capacity 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@heftyhugh9086]

That's how Uncle Dave rolls

[@diegoallendesreyes4237]

Dave, there are a lot of us that come here mostly for Bryan, don't interrupt

[@dessertstorm7476]

By now you should know, Dave is and always will be Dave.

[@vrixmorr]

How can he keep quiet? He's at the centre of all this

[@diegoallendesreyes4237]

@@vrixmorr Bryan got More inside in this matter

[@ArcanaEric]

Bro, Bryan has like 4 other shows/podcasts that he hosts. WOR has always been primarily about hearing Dave talk about the news, with Bryan as his second.

[@diegoallendesreyes4237]

@@ArcanaEric that doesn't justify the interruptions Every time Bryan talks

[@riddle7911epic]

I like CM punk more and more.

[@billywashere6965]

Because he's destroying the company paying him $5 mil?

[@dbr881]

The whole point of this is that everything is completely taken away from the MJF angle, which should be the buzz right now. Everyone is now focused on this, which is complete bullshit; and Punk took it upon himself to go into detail about it all. He talks about everyone being unprofessional, yet in the same light he could’ve completely avoided all of this and talked about the PPV and the actual storylines.

[@timothyhurley5920]

Which is ironic considering MJF's backstage actions took away from the last PPV!

[@dbr881]

@@timothyhurley5920 He didn’t come out and have a presser about everything lol, and he still came out and had the match and did what he was supposed to do. A report is different from having an actual press conference and airing everything out. This was a public interview that completely takes the focus away from the main storyline. Different situations bud.

[@awakenedtarot7306]

I guess MJF knows what it feels like now after what all his drama did to Wardlow's push.

[@dbr881]

@@awakenedtarot7306 read my last comment; different situations…MJF didn’t interview publicly, it was a “report”

[@jaybee4288]

He was outright asked a question by a journalist. He didn’t want to have to be talking about it. He’s the last person to blame, it’s the guys you wrestling observer idiots fantasise over that caused all this. Bucks don’t belong in the wrestling industry. And I’m not sure omega does either. And hangman needs to grow up and stop being such a baby.

[@85futureshock]

Every time Bryan listens to Dave, I think about that moment from The Simpsons where Homer imagines rolling Grandpa in a wheelbarrow to the nuthouse.

[@evanmince526]

Or when Homer listens to Flanders describing the difference between apple cider and apple juice

[@DemetriB0329]

“ Long Day “ - Meltzer 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@trevorfeelgood]

The Scrum Is more must see than Rampage

[@dngn4774]

Paint drying is more must see than Rampage.

[@walterlivingston4596]

Punk just seems like a hard guy to be around.

[@mediumchungus]

Dude was begging for trouble in that scrum. Thats not something normal people do, as all the other scrums show. Dude needs therapy or something

[@8thaccount535]

Cody literally left the company to get away from the Bucks lol

[@jmthehologram]

But he's money. It's like Shawn and Bret in one person

[@alokpandey8317]

“Cm PunK punched Matt Jackson multiple times” - Dave Meltzer

[@abtei_im_eichwald]

i love a good wrestling drama

[@_.El._]

The one time I hope Meltzer is accurate 🙏

[@alokpandey8317]

@@_.El._ 🤣🤣

[@JoeMastronardo]

GOOD !

[@blackjack23able]

Matt's the one with the really goofy snarky face too😁

[@robleeuknhl3345]

God it takes dave an hour to spit out a single sentence

[@LyonHaus]

That’s why I watch at 2x ^_^

[@jackakimbo5718]

Tony needs to sit everyone involved down to make sure they understand that everything about this has to end now AND that everyone has to serve a suspension without pay of however many weeks, AT LEAST. It doesn't fucking matter who started it, who's wrong and who's right. Everyone there played some part, and there needs to be consequences for that for the good of the entire locker room. If Punk then throws a fit and walks over being suspended, or over Steel being suspended or fired then fine, so be it. And if the Bucks or Hangman want to walk because of Punk still being around after this and pushed as a main event guy, then fine, so be it.

[@rriggs6547]

I see where you are coming from and I do think suspensions are in order. I don't know everything that happened or that led up to what happened. But if the reports are true that Punk has treated most of the talent like crap then the best option is to fire Punk. And still suspend everyone else because the manner things have occurred is still not acceptable. But I honestly think if Punk walks that is the end of the issue. If Omega and the Bucks walk, then a good portion of the locker room follows including Jericho, Daniels, and several high ranking people behind the scenes.

[@koashjames]

@@rriggs6547 I 100% concur! But yeah, suspensions for everyone needs to happen for the sake of building a better locker room, and working environment... And, hopefully all parties can accept that.

[@TheDegenerate666]

@@rriggs6547 Reports from who?

[@rriggs6547]

@@TheDegenerate666 Several wrestling media outlets. I don't know the sources. It could be friends of the Bucks. It just as easily could be anyone else in the locker room.

[@TheDegenerate666]

@@rriggs6547 So you're telling on diet sheets? As it stands right now it sounds like the YBs and Omega went to Punk's locker room, and started more shit which put Steel's wife, who had a broken foot, in danger. That being said, that's from a dirt sheet so I take it with a grain of salt. This is what I do know there are multiple wrestlers that have come out and said CM Punk is a great asset to AEW. As much as I love The Elite, the only ones who say that about them are their buddies and themselves.

[@pepsisupremacy5533]

Dave needs to be more cognisant of the people feeding him info and what their allegiances are. He is being played.

[@John_Souls]

Fellow Cornete enjoyer I see

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

So are you

[@sombhattacharyya]

Yes completely agreed. Getting lost in this is the whole thing of few wrestlers being close to "journalists" and pushing agendas. Ideally journos do maintain checks and balances but these people cant as they depend on leaks. There is no investigation involved.

[@andrewwilliams4283]

Dave is not an honest actor in all this, he is compromised.

[@sombhattacharyya]

If its a legal matter then dave n his frd here should saty away from mentioning who hit whom. Its a legal matter. Dont be pushing your agendas here.

[@Radman1889]

TK is awesome and all, but he needs to start being an actual boss and clamp down on this drama. Even if it means reprimands, nip these egos and control your roster!

[@shriyut]

Man it's unfortunate that he seemed quite spineless in that moment. It was sad to see as someone who believed in his wrestling vision.

[@bennett420316]

@@shriyut Well to be fair he was high on coke when it happened 🤷

[@shriyut]

@@bennett420316 way to drag down all the hype I had for all out in one press conference

[@bennett420316]

@@shriyut If anything it should increase the hype ❄️

[@tommccarron4517]

The inmates are running the asylum and Kevin Nash is nowhere to be seen.

[@jedsithor]

My guess is the Bucks and Kenny were watching the scrum and went to confront Punk, things got heated and it all kicked off. Did the Elite go there looking for a fight or just to have words? Only they know that. DId Punk feel like he was being threatened and defend himself or did he start swinging without provocation? Only he knows that. You can see in the comments that people are taking sides and that'll happen in the AEW locker room too. Dave said he heard from neutral people but frankly that's bullshit. Nobody is neutral in those situations. People are always going to back their friends. Some will back the Elite, some will back Punk. Ultimately though, the common denominator is Cabana. This all started because Cabana was moved off AEW. Punk and Khan both say that Punk had nothing to do with that. The Elite think otherwise but let's be honest here. Take Punk out of the equation. Cabana wasn't being pushed. He wasn't a featured performer. He was just kind of there. Moving him to ROH makes a lot of sense and probably would have happened anyway whether or not Punk had a hand in it.

[@Raymitox]

But initially he wasn't moved to ROH. TK was in the verge of not hiring him; he only got hired becauase the Bucks intervened.

[@billywashere6965]

@@kevincantor5151 Yeah, it's too timely to be coincidental in the eyes of many people, and rightfully so. It was also the one thing everyone wondered about when Punk came in: what happens to Cabana? When Punk started moving up the ranks and Cabana was removed from television, it absolutely makde it look like Punk had him moved out of the picture, even if indirectly (i.e., Tony moving Cabana to ROH to avoid conflicts between him and Punk).

[@TehLang]

I find it a bit strange that all the talent according to these two were told not to talk to anyone because of legal issues, yet these guys seem to know from multiple sources EXACTLY what happened.

[@billywashere6965]

Security guards and staff aren't talent.

[@TheAc550]

Ace steel bites Kenny’s hair. *Background Music: You think you’re special..

[@Jhoncena22]

Maybe if TK had addressed this three weeks ago in that “Talent meeting” this would have been avoided. He isn’t waiting to get facts he is scared to be a legit boss. He’s had months to quell this and he’s avoided it

[@Funkmonkv1]

Tony is a people pleaser & a push over, Punk knows that which is why he felt he was able to say those things because Tony isn’t a Vince McMahon no one is scared to speak there minds around Tony like they would with a Vince McMahon.

[@kurtwetzel154]

CM Punk may get fired soon if he doesn't shape up.

[@vrixmorr]

@@Funkmonkv1 tbh Punk would have done and has actually done same with Vince McMahon.

[@ronniejdio9411]

He's never reigned in the evps. Ever.

[@13JacksonMr]

Oh now y'all are realizing it. There have been people saying this for a couple of years now.

[@XanderElion]

Everyone saw this coming. Hell, Stevie Wonder saw this coming

[@BainesMkII]

Everyone except Dave and Tony Khan. Though if you give Dave enough time after the fact, he'll eventually change his account to claim that he either predicted it or knew about it in advance...

[@AvoidTIMtation]

Fights have happened in WWE sure, but a guy going off on other top stars like Punk did at that press conference definitely wouldnt have.

[@gilbertoarellano8525]

Well yea, WWE doesn’t have post match press conferences.

[@timothycrosby4251]

To be fair no one would have done what the Bucks and Hangman did.

[@traceunlocked]

Rollins and Riddle have real life heat and were professional enough to do a whole match, explains the maturity levels between between talent.

[@cjtuckerbpmc]

You have a loose definition of top star

[@unforgabriel]

Yeah vince would've had everybody involved wearing dresses on TV the next week

[@Macgyver00]

Phil Brooks is the softest man in existence! That dude has the thinnest skin in all of human history.

[@alessiogallerano7563]

Dave always concised with a straight line of thought that is clear and pleasent to follow.

[@IntolerantZen]

i hope this is sarcasm .....

[@alessiogallerano7563]

@@IntolerantZen oh yeah it is!

[@Youtube304s]

😆

[@kcatarino]

The greatest orator of our time

[@daveeol1987]

But...you know....but.....you know....

[@SuperGamerB]

I told you; they shouldn't have taken the belt off mox with all this going on, now if they ended up needing to strip punk and having to find a sudden new champion, then it will be a sudden bigger mess.

[@samismith8752]

Finally Peter Avalon shall have his time in the sun!

[@jaybee4288]

No way, wingmen need to be going after those trios titles, he’s not gonna let his boys down.

[@holo0667]

@@jaybee4288 put all the belts on the wingmen (lowkey I'm sure that JD Drake could be a goodTNT champion if given the opportunity)

[@blaze5645]

Three little letters: MJF.

[@mprice6683]

CM Punk should lose the belt to Fuego Del Sol next week.

[@john_WayneRidesAgain]

fragile ego, fragile body, weak mind and weak spirit....on point

[@wilcee238]

That “fragile body” was giving the Young Cucks a thrashing.. By the way John Wayne’s real name is Marion you mark. Moving on.

[@bleedorange1998]

I just cannot fathom there being no suspensions after this. If Tony Khan cannot be the responsible owner he needs to be and punish those who need to be punished, I’ll be honest it will feel like the beginning of the end of AEW. You cannot have an owner who gets stepped over like this and just expect everyone to be happy in that company.

[@mj_dj]

If Kingston was suspended for two weeks for pie-facing Sammy, Punk should face the same consequences for actually throwing punches, if that's what he did.

[@dashingdreww1185]

Can’t suspend your newly crowned World champ and can’t suspend your brand new trios champs , so prob Ace is gonna do the job lol

[@maklame6590]

Vince never punished brock after his scandals. Tony will weight how much public perception will be on his side if he doesnt do anything

[@shamrock73]

@@dashingdreww1185 No one will respect Tk if he does that.

[@joeshmo4892]

Any 'EVP' who leaks info to the bloody media should be fired instantly that's just pathetic.

[@desicrosby7792]

So is Dave’s job just to spin things for Kenny and the bucks?

[@wvang0013]

Meltzer's their PR.

[@markrobinson9394]

@@wvang0013 Thank goodness we have Punk and Cornette to call them out on their bullshit.

[@juniorkhomari1850]

@@markrobinson9394 and what pisses me off is that no one is calling hangman out for his crap. What he did was wrong. He stuck his nose where it didn't belong and thought it was okay to go into business for himself because he's friends with dumb evps. What page did was fucking wrong. And when punk retaliates he is in the wrong? How is this fair?

[@markrobinson9394]

@@juniorkhomari1850 Because Omega and the Bucks are EVP’s, they control the narrative. They’ve got Meltzer handing out 5 stars and praising them to no end for their work in Japan, while ignoring the fact that they don’t draw in America and are not as important to AEW’s success as they believe.

[@bennett420316]

@@juniorkhomari1850 I don't recall Hangman creating storylines that he knew wouldn't happen, that was p.g. punk.

[@Simouno]

The funniest part about the CM Punk rant was him saying that Adam Page put in jeopardy their title match with that shoot promo, potentially costing the company millions of dollars, when he is the idiot who broke his foot to perform a silly stunt with the fans and derailed AEW plans for 3 months. This guy is so delusional that has lost any sense of reality. I would say just get the title off him and let MJF run with it, while CM Punk can heal his butt hurt away from the company

[@juniorkhomari1850]

Punk is the biggest draw in the company. You honestly think that the company will be okay without him? Also, it's fine for Adam page to stick his nose where it didn't belong and shoot on something he knew nothing about but when punk retaliate its wrong?

[@selveneleven]

You’re delusional if you think Punk is not a draw

[@HellShoot]

@@juniorkhomari1850 Did you even catch that Page said something he shouldn't in the promo? The whole "No one backstage wants you here" has been said by Kingston and MJF before. The Rock heard it from Cena, Cena heard it from so many people. It's a line that has been in the wrestling business for so f..king and now everyone is batting an eye at it?! WTF folks

[@Ceiling_Gato]

Don't forget he botched buckshot lariat several times because he refused to take the advice

[@juniorkhomari1850]

@@HellShoot so basically it was okay for Hangman to do this?

[@mrchonk316]

the problem for AEW going forward aswell is if they don't script the promos then people will keep bringing it up and it will keep going round and round. imagine Will Osprey doing a promo on Omega when they do their program and he starts going on how he was made to look a fool by Punk or got beat up by Ace.

[@F1rsttimer]

Punk drops the title this Wednesday and MJF runs the show until all the Elite and Punk suspensions are done with. There's no other way.

[@bb-gc2tx]

lmao ok smark

[@normaningemann3868]

Why did he win the belt back on Sunday with all this drama in the locker room? That's why people think it's a work! If it isn't 😳😳😳!

[@sh1310]

listening to dave is really hard

[@TheBC313]

The guy who wanted to attack Shawn. I think it was Louie Spicolli.

[@stevey1000able]

Chris Candido

[@TheBC313]

@@stevey1000able The reason I think Spicolli is I heard him and Dave were friends cuz they knew each other both living out in Cali. Also there was an incident between Shawn and Louie in 95 which Louie said Shawn eventually apologized for. I could be wrong. But that's why I guessed Louie.

[@SSJFutureGohan62093]

If anything, if absolutely nothing else, this shows how fickle and absolutely toxic the majority of this community really is. You have people who glorified The Bucks and Omega and spanked for them in NJPW, and praised them and Cody for getting AEW off the ground now saying they make the show unwatchable. You have people who have been Punk fans for years and begged for a comeback now hoping he walks away. It’s hilariously bad. TK just sitting there wishing for that scrum to be over, Punk spilling his guts about both legitimate problems and his own petty grudges while running down the EVPs and brass of the company that bent over backwards for him, and then a literal backstage altercation with legitimate punches and bites being thrown….. It’s an absolute embarrassment in every possible angle. Meanwhile, you’ve got proven talent who don’t behave like children in Mox, Danielson, Jericho, Starks, Cassidy, etc. who now have no titles and are lower on the card than most of these people causing problems…

[@mprice6683]

Great statements. Whiney bitch CM Punk ruined what Kenny, Nick, Matt and Cody built.

[@DataButcher]

They should suspend all parties in the short term pending an extensive inquiry, hopefully cooler heads can reconcile and prevail, with actions being taken accordingly. If not, you are dealing with unprofessional children who need to check their egos. A long term solution needs to be met that accurately reflects the incident that took place, with any misstep potentially souring workplace culture and trust for all.

[@miguelsi7543]

^precisely^

[@bileductable]

Bro get that human resources crap out of here. Just turn it into a storyline and agree to work stiff lmao

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

@@bileductable LOLOLOL To make everyone happy: suspend them for a month THEN turn their beef into a wrestling angle

[@bileductable]

@@ShinSuperSaiyajin Ok deal 🤝

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

@@bileductable if Edge and Matt Hardy pulled it off back in the day, why can’t Punk and the Elite. I mean look at Edge and Matt Hardy now. They’re very cool with each other.

[@310thesamson]

No one should get fired. For better or worse. This is the most interesting AEW has been a while. .. hope all parties are ok.

[@TrueFan4EverBACK]

Bryan and Dave should own up that they along with others who report on wrestling news contribute to the issues. Stop reporting on stuff because of what others tell you if there’s no confirmation. Even Punk at the end said to be careful on where you get your news. Y’all making money off these wrestlers at least be smart on what you report.

[@TheOtherGregOlsen]

Idk maybe I’m a bit antiquated in my point of view, but if 3 people rush me in an aggressive manner and outnumber me and a friend and we f*** you up and then you go and get a cop and threaten legal recourse… I’ve lost any respect I might’ve had for you as a man🤷🏻‍♂️

[@natew1639]

Man, I couldn't agree more.

[@krasmazov009]

The title match was symbolic. Moxley, the best champion in the company history, the dude that embodies AEW, loses to Punk. Tony has put the wrong priorities for AEW. Yes grow. But not at the cost of people who legit love pro wrestling. Stop sacrificing the fans who were there day one, for a whole year. This has boiled over to much. I'm just not interested in AEW if this is what we are gonna do.

[@maqclark]

Kingston was suspended for two weeks after piefacing Guevara so I can't see how you don't punish Punk, unless you want to be seen as playing favorites.

[@dngn4774]

Wrestling has always played favorites between midcarders and main eventers.

[@shaytanszenith887]

You don't suspend the biggest stars. Play favorites. I want them on my screen.

[@welowee7610]

Punk not appear on TV will make the ratings goes down to 500-600k lol

[@BilbusWilbury]

Punk has fuck you money from the WWE and other ventures. He will walk the first time TK tries to "punish" him...

[@actuallynotsteve]

Why does everybody keep saying piefacing, what does that mean?

[@michaeltorre8170]

Poor Dave, His little girls got beat up.

[@ChaosTheory9]

Bucks might not have leaked the cabana storyline but they’ve been doing shit like this for years

[@thewindozer]

The Cucamonga kids

[@RavenGlenn]

Didn't it happen in Punk's locker room? He can't be the aggressor if they came to him to cause problems.

[@supermonkey321]

He literally told them to come to him. He said it right there in the rant that if someone has a problem with him to come say it to his face. So when he left the stage, they came to say it to his face, literally what he asked. By most accounts, Punk is the one who started swinging at them. That's inexcusable, no matter what they said to him. And then Ace Steel throwing a fucking chair at Nick's head? He needs to be in jail. Period. You can't do that to another human being in real life. This isn't a fucking wrestling match.

[@ronniejdio9411]

@@supermonkey321 he literally said come at me in the hallway. If we're going literal let's go literal.

[@molsy1768]

@@supermonkey321 in real life if you scream in someone's face you get punched.

[@tremere40k]

Bottom line is the 3 evp's need the titles removed. They should of never invaded Punk's locker room. Make Chris the Vice president since he is that locker room's glue. And has through out joining AEW has seemed more like a silent partner. And this company needs to get someone as an authority role that reports directly to Tony and can take charge prior to Tony being advised by the lawyers the family has access too. Tony is a great person, but needs to have someone who can be the bad guy keeping talent in line.

[@TheRealRollerCodster]

Lmao make excuses for punk... this isn't his company. These guys were working their asses off to build this place while punk was home crying. Get out of here. They had every right to after what he said. You would too.

[@tremere40k]

@@TheRealRollerCodster yep. it's called business, and they get what they deserve, Ace should be fired for the chair incident, and biting Kenny. and the 3 of them should of allowed Tony, to handle it. its called being professional, and guess what punk going off the rails is the pipe bomb all over again.

[@billywashere6965]

@@tremere40k You kind of glossed over Zer-0's point, though. The Elite have been breaking their backs for years to get AEW to where it is while Punk did nothing but whine and sit at home and grovel. He comes in and acts like a top dog, gets preferential treatment, and causes locker room division for the guys who BUILT THE COMPANY. Yeah it's a business, but if you don't respect the workers who laid the foundation then you have no place in that business, and CM Punk has ZERO respect for the foundation laid down for him to do his thing. Remember, without the ELite there is no All Elite Wrestling.

[@southpaw933]

It’s podcasts like this who made this whole situation worse than it was at first . Meltzer and Alvarez are Marks for Kenny omega and the elite . Who have a niche fan base

[@billywashere6965]

They still did better numbers in the opening Dynamite than anything CM Punk has done since he's joined.

[@southpaw933]

@@billywashere6965 nothing since . When everyone saw it was a bunch of cos play clowns running around . Making weird faces and finger pointing . Gtfoh ! Punk immediately shot that company up a level by just walking out on a rumor . He’s been the top draw since . He’s drawn the most money for the company . He broke their F’ng shop website . People will leave in droves . Aew will never be able to go back to Chicago without the show being hijacked by the fans . Gtfoh!

[@happysqWid]

I didn't think it was a work until Brian said it's 100% not a work

[@TheBeird]

Punk’s actions are an even bigger embarrassment to this company than the lame fart of an explosive barb wire death match finish. At least that still got Eddie Kingston over as baby face.

[@djmistiso]

Punk’s actions? He called a spade a spade, and the Bucks & Omega were little whiny bitches about it.

[@harishsubramanian1241]

Maybe for you, but Kingston looked like a dumbass to me, even though that horrible execution wasn't his fault.

[@ehi80]

Sounds like you’re hearing from both sides but taking a certain side while obviously trying to be subtle but it’s not working Dave

[@gavinanderson3111]

Ace went stiff,chewing on Omega, Hardcore chair swinging on Nick Jackson, Matt was the only acrobatics when he was folded by CM Punk with a punch like a slinky, all in all I give this 3 stars- Dave Meltzer.

[@suprcrzy]

Not enough umms, y'knows, and but's

[@maklame3318]

i thought it was over booked. Had shades of Russo and Shakespeare.

[@gavinanderson3111]

@@maklame3318 I just spat out my drink lol 😆 best comment of the day.

[@DukeBlueDevilFan08]

Tony Kahn was probably holding on to Omega’s ankle like Jeff Van Grundy did when Alonzo Mourning and Larry Johnson fought 😂😂😂

[@MrE51917]

Solid reference, boy did the Knicks and Heat really hate each other back then 🤣

[@DukeBlueDevilFan08]

@@MrE51917 I’m glad someone understood the reference

[@apjapki]

Pre-PPV: Let's get Ace Steel on TV each week. Post-PPV: Ace Steel is never getting on TV again.

[@DemonGiraffe95]

The reverberations of Punk walking out on WWE and telling all on Cabana's podcast are still incredible after nearly 8 years later.

[@tommccarron4517]

Where was Paul Pogba during all of this? Personally, I don't think he's been at it, the buck stops with him.

[@kamikoto1558]

Didn't expect to see sourness down here.

[@Shisui5752]

Paul Pogba in AEW? 😂 I don't get it but it's funny.

[@vortex_1336]

Can't wait for the "Colt Cabana" chants next time Punk is on tv.

[@ronniejdio9411]

All of colts 3 fans

[@greghughes6098]

If that happens, I'll eat a bowl of shit

[@detalpug1033]

I'm going to rant a little . This happened all the time in WWE throughout the years Matt Hardy and Edge over the Lita and the affair, Bret The Hitman heart and Shawn Michaels, Booker T had a backstage fight with Batista, doesn't even include the Montreal screw job when The Hitman punch Vince McMahon. Kofi Kingston being called stupid by Randy Orton publicly and everyone being aware of the situation. People get mad some more than others professional wrestling it's a high tension very competitive environment and has happened all the time in WWE it's just that they got better protocols now to prevent such leaks and incidents nowadays. Clearly aew needs needs a lot of work in the backstage environment. And the elite needs to be removed from the EVP spots and just be giving the wrestler rolls because they're clearly no good at being EVPs. I mean think about CM Punk has no one to go to on a regular basis because the people in charge outside Tony who's clearly too busy don't like him because of the whole Cabana thing. Not saying CM Punk handle it right but honestly what else was he going to do because Tony has no control and three of his superiors really dislike him because of an incident that had nothing to do with them and it's over 10 years old. Essentially they should have minded their own business and conducted themselves as EVPs. Cabana wasn't fired he was still being paid and pretty much like every other wrestler there probably could have worked at other places and Tony would have been fine with it. Hopefully this is all just growing pains and everyone can get their heads on right but if somebody's got to go honestly I couldn't tell you who should be they're all the same age range so they're all going to probably come out the same time. There could be a lot of money if they could turn this into an angle but those are long odds right now

[@maklame6590]

@@simonhh what 60 wrestlers. Anyone seeing the product knows he evp play fav. From riho being the first women's champ to ftr not getting a proper title shot against bucks. Omega and bucks are extremely self absorbed. Its the same damn clique dynamics that wwe had and later wcw.

[@maklame6590]

@@simonhh 100 wrestlers will say vince is a great guy. Guess youll buy that as well ? Even jericho or bryan didnt say one bad word about him. Ever heard of "not pissing where you eat or have eaten.

[@HellShoot]

@@maklame6590 You're projecting your hatred for EVPs to side with Punk. It's ok if you don't like them, but Punk has been unprofessional and made the boss look like a wimp in front of reporters. Every single one of them should be suspended, especially after what happened backstage during the media scrum

[@drchtct]

Lmao the Bucks are essential to AEW's success, like 80% of the roster is there because of the Bucks. If Punk was fired, AEW would still be the same, it worked without him, it won't work without the Bucks as EVPs.

[@maklame6590]

@@drchtct so youre saying the 80% of the roster thats coz of the bucks would leave if they left ?

[@jays2670]

The shoot interviews 5 years from now will be great.

[@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga]

I guarantee The Bucks wouldn't be spreading rumors about someone who wasn't more popular than them.

[@Illuminatty1]

Cm stands for Chaotic media-scrum Cocky Mfer Cenny mega Chicago muffins Cucamonga matt-jackson Chris moxley can't manage (a target) Colt mañana

[@jackras6139]

None of these are good

[@TribalChief3000]

Solomonster brought up a good point: Eddie Kingston was just suspended not long ago for doing something much less than what Punk and the EVPs did. So TK is in a difficult situation of what he needs to do without showing the rest of his roster that he isn’t being biased but also he doesn’t want to upset Punk.

[@Jonathan-om1wq]

EVPs didn't do anything wrong. Punk needs to be suspended and Ace Steel needs to get fired

[@SSJFutureGohan62093]

Well…. They could have just avoided the issue with having to suspend the champion if they would have just left the belt on Mox….

[@billywashere6965]

What did the EVPs do? They weren't the ones publicly burying the talent, the company, and the president of the company, to the media.

[@alokpandey8317]

What Dave Meltzer is to Kenny and Bucks , Jim Cornette is to CM punk

[@henkerharmse9361]

Ace steel, cm punk and the Chair is the new trios champion

[@mwescapists7097]

After hearing both sides, from what’s been reported anyway…Ace Steel needs his ass fired. Dude claims he was trying to protect his wife…by escalating things with throwing a chair and not trying to get her the hell outta there. Like someone who was concerned for their already injured wife would do. Using his wife as an excuse for his reaction. Can that man.