'Andor': Luthen's Speech to End All Speeches | The Midnight Boys

[@HugoSH93]

House of the Dragon and Rings of Power came with all the attention and hype, but Andor has blown them out of the water.

[@Dookieman1975]

Eh HOTD was able to keep up. HOTD got a lot of skepticism from people just because of GOT S8. ROP got a lot of skepticism too because people were worried it would be a messy fanfic. And instead of pleasantly surprising everyone like andor and HOTD it disappointed by being a messy fanfic

[@flankspeed]

Andor was Star Wars elevated to true art. 👍

[@SwaggaJonez1]

The Greatest speech , monologue in the history of StarWars

[@witendias5200]

I ran out of words how to describe how awesome this show is. I just want to congratulate Tony Gilroy and the writing of Beau Willimon that deserves an Emmy for it!

[@Dbales34]

Absolutely fantastic

[@BonoTungTube]

Totally agreed 👍👍🙏

[@carlosbezie7451]

That speech had me floored, I can't believe there's Star Wars fans that probably won't ever see this episode and it's a damn shame.

[@karazor-el9596]

and that's why we don't watch we want star wars not long winded boring af yammering thank god we've got tales of the jedi to tide us over until mando and asohka

[@thitran1362]

@@darrel7589 Why don't they get anxious? They are literally conducting rebel activity within the heart of the Empire! If you are doing that behind enemy lines then anyone would have been anxious about everything.

[@FunClockwork]

@@darrel7589 u are definitely 12 lol

[@Echidna23Gaming]

@@darrel7589 Luthen literally says "I'm surprised he waited a year this time", they've been in contact over the years of his career and he absolutely cared about what he was saying. Luthen is relating to the spy by giving him an honest monologue about the depth of his sacrifice which gives more insight into the foundations of the rebellion and those who helped build it up

[@FunClockwork]

@@darrel7589 a 12 yr old can use full sentences without an issue. You're 12 based on the fact you can't pick up on the simplest of details. Go enjoy kenobi and book of trash somewhere else we don't care

[@cyberdan42]

Luthen's speech is amazing because it highlights the cost of performing the tasks of forming the Rebellion, of fighting the Empire. You see the terrible and brutal decisions he is forced to make, that he must embrace the tactics of his enemies in order to defeat them. But, critically, Luthen feels that pain, and he regrets, every day, the deicisions he is forced to make; he knows the cost spiritually of his work. The Empire he is fighting does not feel that regret or spiritual pain; that is why they are evil and must be opposed, whatever the cost.

[@oscarchoy9469]

I agree with the first half but partially disagree with the second half to me the empire definitely have no qualms about wiping out the rebels no matter the cost and squashing any opposition but thats not to say all in the empire is fully onboard some officers and stormtroopers still do feel a bit of guilt but justify it by saying it is for the greater good better too kill a million than let a billion die is what a good chunk of imperials think

[@stigsandstrom866]

I was in awe of this dialogue. Greatest ever in the Star Wars universe if not all SyFy. PLEASE DISNEY LET THIS SHOW SET THE STANDARD OF ALL STAR WARS SHOWS!!!

[@thewakandankingtchaka5331]

''I have made my mind a sunless place'' - that's just pure poetry. I loved the dichotomy between the two monologues - one is a speech about doing everything possible to escape their oppression and starting a new life, hope and freedom are on the line - the other, a speech about doing anything and everything possible to create freedom for others; providing them hope BUT leaving themselves in the deepest depths of darkness and a prison of solitude of their own making...

[@leftboxanderson5361]

I know it may sound silly but there is so much resonating power in that speech for me as a black person in America, who values the history and sacrifice by black leaders of generations past.

[@pat7917]

It’s not silly at all, Star Wars means something different to everyone. I bet George would be proud knowing his IP is doing what he originally intended - bringing people hope & joy.

[@Superdelphinus]

Yeah I don’t think that’s silly at all - I think a lot of the poetry of oppression from this era has its soul in the civil rights movements of the last 100 years or so.

[@TraceguyRune]

@@pat7917 George is still alive 😂

[@pat7917]

@@TraceguyRune Why did you read my statement as if he’s dead?

[@creativestudio101]

Hadn't thought about it that way, but what you say rings true in a lot ways, yeah

[@marvdatboi]

Andor has been top tier this year

[@kellingc]

I love seeing the passion ignited in the fandom like this. I love that we get Filoni's stories, and I am so happy we are getting Gilroys' stories. What a time to be a Star Wars fan. Not a Vespa, screaming inquistor, or space horsie in sight. Luthan's monolog was Shakespearian worthy to be up there with Shylock's monolog ('If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"'), and I'd say even Hamlet's ("Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep") Man, I love this show.

[@drksideofthewal]

First thing I said after I saw that speech was that the writing reminded me of classic literature. Like, something Herman Melville would write. “Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people's hats off - then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can.” "I've made my mind a sunless space. I share my dreams with ghosts. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion, I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they've set me on a path from which there is no escape. I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet. What is my sacrifice? I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see. And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude. So what do I sacrifice? Everything! " I'm not saying Tony Gilroy is Melvile, but the fact that this writing belongs in the same conversation as literature is astonishing.

[@kellingc]

@@drksideofthewal Agreed, nor am I saying that Tony or John are Shakespear. However, they are writing and developing characters on the same level (or close to) of Melville and Shakespear. I'd even include John Steinbeck, T.S. Elliott as well as a whole list of authors and playwriting. What we are experiencing is a work of art. Something that is impacting us well beyond the words, and thinking and discussing what it means. A moment of clarity where you look at a painting and say, "I get it."

[@Mistablue22]

"He's given everything for his dream"...which he knows he will never live to see! *my heart* this episode had it all man.

[@uhfanzonly]

You know Andor and Rouge One makes me really appreciate all the rebels that are not the MC of the Star Wars universe. All the sacrifices they made created the one shot Luke got to destroy the Death Star in a New Hope for the rebellion to become a serious threat to the Empire and not just an annoyance.

[@jdrummerdd]

This show is just amazing man. I have no more words than outstanding

[@ERYTHROGRAPHOS]

Finally, some great dialogue in Star Wars. Thanks Beau Willimon

[@maomao180]

Andor makes Kenobi look like a kids TV show.

[@itsachucky]

Luthen shows what it was really like before Luke. Luke changed the whole rebellion by showing them they can win. Luthen didn't have the luxury of being "good". He has to use all of the evil that the Empire also uses to topple it. It's so eye opening. And it's an awesome show because of that.

[@timothychapman269]

Brilliant point

[@TraceguyRune]

Andor needs an emmy. This is some of the best Star Wars in existence. They need to get Tony Gilroy on full time at Lucas Films

[@haydenlane9600]

Skarsgard and Serkis were the GOATs this episode

[@forgottenheritage2845]

'I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy... to defeat them' wasn't meant literally, it is a metaphor to express that he simply has had to behave like them to beat them at their own game. He knows just how unethical he has had to act to achieve goals, like allowing Kreegyr to go to his death.

[@tedbosquez19]

Great discussion worthy of a spectacular show … excellent job fellas …

[@she_who_dares9713]

That speech - that one will stay with me for life.

[@mifflinz7958]

I was late to the party as far as this show is concerned. I watched and finished it about a month ago. IMO the greatest piece of starwars content I’ve ever consumed.

[@SynthTerror]

We got a sense of that loss, and those unsung heroes that give their lives for rebellion, with the line "many Bothans died to give us this information" in Jedi. Andor is what Rogue One should have been.

[@dsdmtom]

The best review of that scene on the whole of KZbin! Thank you. I'll go post the link to the other channels now to let them know they don't need to review it, just point to this video.

[@sidewinder3000]

You guys make awesome things even awesomerer, because we get to watch them and then be in conversation about it with you. Thank god for the Midnight Boys!

[@gecron]

The speech did something in me! I’m so glad there are people like these guys who can put into words how I feel about it. Dang it was amazing.

[@gooddog2001]

That was a real speech that was said back in 1978 to inspire those at the bottom to stand up to their corrupt masters at the top.

[@Willakhstan]

Definitely brilliant storytelling. Plus it makes even crazier that the future of the rebellion came down to Biggs's friend who showed up suddenly with a princess, a smuggler, a Wookie and some droids and then trusted space magic over technology to blow up a planet-killing super weapon. You watch the medal ceremony now and feel like Chewie's not the only one who's contribution got overlooked.

[@catat9442]

Midnight thank you for that!

[@Galactic123]

Goddamn you guys perfectly put into words why I loved that speech so much. I want to write a dozen thesises about that scene. That speech will be practiced in acting class monologues for decades to come.

[@edwardgomez6950]

Yall were spittin in this episode 😤😤😤🫡🫡🫡

[@laurahtje]

I love your podcast and it was nice seeing your faces. Andor is amazing and so well written.

[@NeedsContent]

People will be writing essays on this show.

[@markignatius7234]

That speech took my breath away. It was stunning. Beautiful and sinister. There is a moral ambiguity which exists in all struggles. So close to perfection. I love this show so much.

[@gedrictudio]

Talking about crossing the line between good and evil, Luthen's speech showed the darkness necessary to defeat the Empire whereas Kino's speech showed the hope necessary to defeat the Empire.

[@BoardWalkToke]

Glad there are people who felt the same way. I loved Andor already but that scene solidified my appreciation forever towards the show. It perfectly describes the sacrifice that Luthen has had to do in such an impactful way. This show is a revolution for StarWars media I hope they continue with this direction.

[@TheBenperri]

While I love this show with all my being, I think I love listening to you four talk about it more. I love you guys!!

[@Superdelphinus]

It’s interesting how mon mothma is the least committed of the main rebels at this point of the story (notwithstanding that she may give into the indecent proposal made to her in the last episode after all!). I reckon the second series will focus on her evolution more when she’s ready to commit everything without hesitation like Cassian and Luthan are at the moment. Essentially she becomes the light that the galaxy flocks too when she openly challenges the Emperor (I think in Rebels she does that?) but her character is a long way away from being that person at this stage. What an incredible show. It’s almost like a stage play.

[@isessogroup]

This is evolution of art… no movie could do this in my opinion, after watching Arcane i feel like the bar was raised. Almost like after the first Avatar… the dialogue and just the pure mood of this series is so angsty, so engulfing. The performances so stellar its hard to fathom that this is tv… the quality of the lore is almost booklike in its nuance. Subtle details, the feel of Mon Mothma this entire show is of someone under a microscope, someone who must subdue comfort, the performance amazing. And Kino, just finding his voice, as Luthen said, knowing what his choices will do to affect others yet knwig he wont be able to enjoy the freedom he has encouraged others to chase. Andor, pushing Kino, seeing in him the leader of men he could never be… knowing his is an existence of shadow, of precise incision, in and out and Kino can and must do better “one way out”… and the Luthen Rael, the true Dark Knight, a character who has become my favorite in all of Star Wars… I can only compare Luthen to characters from book media like Bane and Plagueis who ultimately had the vision and acumen we long to possess in our own lives… Tony Gilroy and company have the experience with documentaries of true rebellion in real world situations so they know where to hit and know what it has taken to push past the limits of morality to achieve freedom at any cost… Luthen is always mesmerizing. His subtle nudges to his subordinates to push and prod at the Empire, to force their hand, to escalate “Lets encourage this line of thinking” eve when speaking about their search for HIM!!! Its just brilliant writing, acting, set design, sound, lighting, the gambit… if these came in 3 episode arcs we would all be worrying about our cigarette problem. What an inspiring piece of television, just mesmerizing and better and better after rewatch. Kudos. Thank you guys for recognizing it and having such great insight as well

[@mahalallel2012]

The Luthen Rael monologue at the end of episode 10 is up there with "tear drops in the rain" by Rutger Hauer; Roy in 'Blade Runner'.

[@osvaldoalfaro136]

I've been thinking that also since I watched it and it has been resonating with me ever since. What a show.

[@ShazammtheProducer]

best show of 2022 best star wars show ever Fire.

[@TheAverageSome1]

Great speech but for me the dialogue between cassian and kino was epic.

[@RobTheWatcher]

“Power doesn’t panic.”

[@TheAverageSome1]

@@RobTheWatcher exactly the scene i was talking about

[@alexisdeacon8727]

I personally love the richness and complexity this series brings to the idea of The Force, with its light and dark aspects.

[@andydrews4439]

Yea the speech was 🔥🔥🔥

[@SpringToothDrag]

So damn good.

[@VIDS3687]

THANK YOU for shining light on the speech!

[@marcelchenier]

Well stated by everyone. Subscribed!

[@OconByrd519]

Kino's speech was pretty good as well. But that's like being the opening act to The Beatles at their height.

[@pat7917]

I felt like I was sitting at the round table with some great philosophers LOL. You’ve got me subscribed gents!

[@darthnito6336]

this beat the Independence Day Speech, this should go down as a poem for inspiration. This was to good, this show is making star wars a modern myth again.

[@Alex-se3uy]

Shit, and to think I was going to be alone in my feelings on that monologue.. It woke me up. I can’t praise the writing and the delivery of that monologue enough. Truly art.

[@theashrook6129]

well said, this is the creation of the Forlorn Hope group.

[@ozlemdenli7763]

amazing episode

[@roy41688]

Amazing speech

[@RMNarratives]

I'm with Charles - I've seen the Sistene Chapel & Andor truly had the same effect lmao.

[@reginaldshort8486]

U got to go back to V for Vendetta to hear such an epic speech. Tony G. is genius.

[@steelresilience]

This show showcased working-class Star Wars. Relateable Star Wars. It took the imaginary and made it relatable.

[@OscarBSilao]

wish you guys made watch along's

[@VicAtNyte]

He's so right about the Sistine Chapel. I went to the Vatican when i was young and after that experience- going to any church is a waste of time. Period. There is so much to see there that you literally have to live there. Also Stellan Sarsguard should get Best Supporting Actor of a tv drama series just in that scene alone. I can see scenes from this series being recreated on stage.

[@tct8284]

Hell Yeah Van!

[@jmo7185]

Speech was like Shakespeare

[@AR-io8fv]

Masterpiece

[@jennycraigadventures3314]

I disagree about the speech being the first time Star Wars showed the price of the rebellion as Andor killing his fellow rebel in the beginning of Rogue One was a pretty weighty indication of the price of the rebellion.

[@gooddog2001]

Nemik dies before he can see the rebellion win. But his action says Andor, which leads to the death star being destroyed.

[@jacoboverton5500]

Probably late the party here, but I had zero idea that’s what the Junior Mints looked like. Steve is kinda blowing my mind.

[@JC-ye8nu]

Harvey lets heard it again

[@sommojames]

Looking forward to learn his backstrory and what happened 15 years prior. Parte of me hopes he is Dooku younger brother

[@OptionZero]

After the end credits to this pod all i can think about is Steve gettin his pockets run when he leaves Van’s house every week

[@jeffreytan2948]

Luthen is like what options do you have when your enemy fights dirty?

[@Jason-gt2kx]

Anakin didn't live to see the death of the Empiere, he actually caused his death.

[@ArmandoMPR]

I didn’t realize Steve was rocking a Ellen DeGeneres look all this time.

[@CaptainFirespitter]

Funnily enough, I’ve delivered similar something like this for my dnd group a while ago, when I was doing my damnest and sacrificed everything with my character and someone else who complained about something doing nothing and giving me shit with being an shitty character. I absolutely adored all the things happening during the session as role playing being that person as the shitheel delivering everything to achieve greater good as a sacrifice grand schemed for the future like Luthen is giving for him. Hit me extremely hard today and greatly appreciate writers doing the show.

[@RawrinRaybies]

One way out

[@Nekotaku_TV]

STELLAN SKARSGÅRD lessgoo!

[@axelusul]

Rael Aveross and Fanri

[@Surgebuster]

Sometimes the Midnight Boys are a hard listen but this is a fantastic clip.

[@chac65]

Luthen is clearly ex Jedi that turned to the dark side to defeat the empire motivated by revenge after order 66. Listen to his speech at the at the end of episode 10. He was literally saying that without using the words the "force" or "Jedi". What did he sacrifice? Inner peace, calm, love, kinship...the light side. His mind a sunless space...Dark. 15 years ago, when order 66 was issued, his life was dedicated to an equation, kind of a pre determined destiny the sort Jedi sought ro achieve. He is motivated by anger, to use violence, anything to achieve his goal, to care about no one in the process. He is DAMNED to use the tools of his enemy...the dark side. What did he sacrifice??? EVERYTHING! Clearly the words of a Jedi in this situation. Now he has a spaceship with red lightsaber tech slicing through tie fighters. Dude exudes cool jedi badassery. He is a man who can foresee his destiny in a way only Jedi seem to know. And he has kyber crystals. I think he is on a Obi Wan Kenobi path to sacrifice himself to distract the empire from Mon Mothma to save her so she can play her part in the rebellion.

[@karl-niclas_burner]

At most we have gotten a hanfull of great monologues in SW, where the actors just have mostly explanatory dialouge, oneliners and punchlines to drive the story forward.

[@ligh7ningx7]

and sadly, his sacrifice will never be acknowledged or even remembered

[@awlabrador]

Yeah, don't ruin Luthen's speech. Besides, he's not some ordinary guy like Kino or Andor, so we can cut him some slack: In all his time waiting in his shop to hear secret messages of this or that plan working out, or failing, I expect he's had more than enough time to put into words all the sacrifice he's making for the galaxy.

[@IcefisherTenacity]

What’s with the partial censorship?

[@JC-ye8nu]

Can tou say it differently?

[@JC-ye8nu]

We aint gay, touight be bit we aint....

[@karazor-el9596]

the only thing he sacrafises is anything and anyone but himself then go's back to his little antique shop and smiles he's litterlly the rebel emperor

[@creativestudio101]

He he... I was thinking that too. I guess you could say that yes, that could be in a physical, concrete sense, but psychologically, mentally, at the soul level, he's been wrecked. That's how I see it kind off

[@tct8284]

Andor is sick

[@JC-ye8nu]

Ahhahahhaah boi sounds like hatvsy

[@adventureunlimiteduk]

I hate sand...🤣🤣 See the difference?

[@heyman6010]

Is he the home alone dad?? Seems familiar. Without looking.

[@Surgebuster]

He plays a recurring character in the MCU, starting with Thor. His best role was as the Professor in Good Will Hunting. But he’s been in a lot of great things you may have seen.

[@melissagreye8445]

Hey man That was a different actor named John Heard

[@JC-ye8nu]

But he si prominet with hatvey shii ketss run it back broo

[@jamesh7469]

I’ve had two transformational experiences when looking at art this month: the first was when I watched “Hebrews to Negroes” Based off of Kyrie Irving’s recommendation. The second was Andor

[@pat7917]

Yes 100%.. For me, Art & Nature are the two things that have this kind of powerful impact - especially when I least expect it.

[@JC-ye8nu]

Beardmans turnemex n he loved to turn.....

[@vanhelsing744]

If you listen closely.. he explains how he wanted to be a Jedi, but thee Jedi were being hunted.. so he took a different route: to use the tools of his enemy to safe the galaxy......... so, again, He sacrificed his Jedi purpose to form a new tactic.

[@karazor-el9596]

long live the empire at least they don't sneek around pretending to be a friend they let you know who and what they are

[@JC-ye8nu]

Show your acton vpice skills mf

[@takanara7]

Uh, sure it was good but I wouldn't compare it to the Sistine chapel.

[@creativestudio101]

Yeah, that's way overboard...

[@leonx3882]

I understand and I do agree with the feelings everyone expresses about the speech but na...this show was just a mistake. Nothing about it actually felt like star wars besides the planets and hearing certain names but this was def not star wars. If you want more of this and less of the lightsaber action, myths and stories about the force, stories of other force users and even mandolorians or anything that we've seen in ep 1-6, I'm sorry but you're not here for star wars. Everything you don't want IS star wars. You're not really that much of a star wars fan bro