Andrew Tate goes to therapy #2 - (Therapist Reacts)

[@caisearbhan4738]

I personally hold the view that there is nothing particularly noteworthy or captivating about AT, and I am perplexed as to why he has garnered and continues to garner such considerable attention. It seems that he and his sibling engaged in criminal behavior stemming from their own feelings of insecurity and desperation. Those acts should be subject to appropriate penalties; beyond that, I don't believe they offer anything of value to society.

[@mauiswift6391]

Well said and I’d say pretty accurate.

[@charlize9341]

I'm a little hard pressed to see what this commentary has to offer. This man clearly advocates violent misogyny as his sales pitch full stop. The Romanian government is pressing charges on him as a violent rapist trafficking and imprisoning women. Not sure a fake therapy session warrants "serious" commentary. But Kirk is free to reach out to Tate's followers as he sees fit of course. I find this approach risks legitimatizing the whole endeavor and pretty dubious.

[@charlize9341]

I think this needs waaaay more discussion between the violent rhetoric directly turning into hyperviolence against women, and some facts about the wildly violent charges Tate is accused of. And admonishment to anyone dumb enough to follow this wad of mud.

[@esikazemese]

He is charismatic and successful (he has money and escaped prison -where he belongs-) - and that is enough for vulnerable men to follow. To me he is the definition of CRINGE and I would rather eat my own shit than talk to him for a minute.@@charlize9341

[@BecBec295]

What's noteworthy is that he has so many followers. You can ignore him if you'd like, but I think it's at great peril, because the number of boys and young men who are persuaded by his arguments says something deeply concerning about how we're raising young men.

[@cl0wnbaby]

Definitely referring to my depression as Mr Poopy Pants going forward.

[@PoetryOf]

I can’t tell you how much I LOVE that you’re going through this interview. When I watched it, I cringed and didn’t want to finish it but forced myself to. I’m extremely impressed with your respectful composure Dr. Honda! One thing that makes me really enjoy watching your videos!

[@PsychologyInSeattle]

Yeah, I guess I'm used to these sorts of people.

[@klingonprogramming3868]

If it's one thing I don't want when i'm in depression or with anxiety is a person like Andrew tate to talk rubbish and say depression / anxiety ain't real... Just because you're on a different spectrum of mental health disorder like narcissism where you externalize things like often others are the problem, i'm perfect and don't feel it because you spent your lifetime ignoring or avoiding your emotions doesn't get you the right to downplay others sufferings.. damnnn..

[@RockyDaTherapist]

I was wondering why he’s spending so much time thinking about Depression if you’re not depressed and never been depressed? Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

[@esikazemese]

Don't bother with him, he is a vessel of a human a piece of shit for real. People with mental disorders are just as real as any physical pain/issue. I hope you get the best treatment for you and get better

[@vildhallon4709]

Firstly you deserve to be treated with respect and for your struggles to be validated. Depression is real. You're struggles are real. Secondly If you look closer at at what he's is doing it's really sad actually. He is unable to connect to people in a fundamental way just because he has the need to always feel superior. Don't spend your energy being angry at him. Instead I feel sorry for him and hope that he finds the help he needs to recover.

[@therabbithat]

Yeah I mean no one chooses depression but if I could choose been depression and his type of narcissisism, i would choose depression 7 days a week, as agonising as it is.

[@mandastarlight699]

​​​​@@therabbithatsame, I'd rather suffer than destroy someone else. At least you could use that energy to create remarkable things. Many creative people suffered and created as an outlet. I'd rather just be pretty average, be kind and happy though, and create average things

[@daisyo.6666]

He sure does protest too much for someone who doesn't believe in depression and has never experienced it long term. Seems much more likely that he is trying very hard to convince himself that everything is okay.

[@Mama_Bear524]

That’s pretty much everything he is. It’s all projection

[@nicky132]

There's definitely a vast sea of something under all that

[@therabbithat]

You can't feel angry and sad at the same time

[@chubbshappygilmore3913]

Maybe he talks about it because people ask him about it.... CRAZY!

[@StephSunshineArtistry]

I actually do agree with Tate that reframing things can be helpful. When I recovered from depression (twice), there was a lot of reframing involved. But it only goes so far. The way he describes it reminds me of when I was 6 and I had a brilliant idea. I decided that pain only hurts because I THINK it hurts, so if I just decide that pain feels good, it won't hurt anymore. Decided to try it the next time I had a stomach virus, told myself that all my stomach pain is FUN! It didn't work, but hey, maybe my little 6 year old mind just wasn't strong enough 😂

[@hisenseks]

Yeah, like he sees it as something only unnecessary and bad, but depression like pain signals that ther is need to take care of yourself. Like if someone ignores pain they can end up with chronic pain and may be develope serious illnes ec.

[@WildAntics13]

You’re sick

[@skyworld3393]

I didn’t know that constant moving for a child can be traumatic. I had moved so many times and went to so many different schools that I lost count. 6th grade alone, I went to 4 different schools. I’m an introvert and it’s already hard making friends. It’s extra lonely being an only child. I always thought that I was socially awkward, but have come to learn that I’m just really shy. Lately I’ve been realizing that not only do I have childhood trauma, but there’s more trauma there than expected. I haven’t been able to go to therapy in a while, but I really need to go back when I can.

[@charlize9341]

As a person who moved frequently, less frequently than you describe, as a child I have found the lack of continuity to be a real hardship as I age. I came to rely on a long term relationship as a way to have someone who was familiar with my life. I felt like my memories of my life disappeared when the relationship ended. I don't know anyone other than my mom who knew me and was involved in my life for more than a few years at a time. As childhood trauma survivors, we only start to realize some of our hardships as we become old adults and realize other people had stability in so many many ways that we did not.

[@skyworld3393]

@@charlize9341 Ah, that’s interesting. I’m still coming to terms on how much it affects my life and who I am as a person. I’ve always desired long term relationships even if it’s hard to come by. I didn’t make the connection that that too can stem from the need for stability.

[@ellixrose2650]

I moved only once as a child, but this one time felt traumatic to me, I had lost my home, my safe haven, the beautiful landscape around it. I was bullied heavily so to be able to live in the middle of nowhere and connect with nature was my refuge. My parents built a big house in a town and were so proud and felt so independant for it, but to me, my childhood was now completely over and even though this house is so much more impressive and all that, I could never emotionally connect with it. Honestly I can't imagine how it must be when you moved more frequently. I once looked it up on Google and moving frequently as a child does increase likelihood for a lot of mental illnesses later in life. In my case, my mom was being emotionally abused by her mother who was our landlord and so I understand rationally why they had to move. I'm sure most parents have good reasons and try their best for their children but unfortunately, this rational reasoning doesn't really help when you're a child that is still very much developing emotionally.

[@charlize9341]

@@ellixrose2650 That loss, upheaval, and bullying were every couple of years for me lol. Except I didn't start from having an idea of a home. The good parts though, are that I am now extremely adaptable to different types of people and personalities, now that I have healed from social anxiety almost nothing phases me socially, the world feels wide open to me - I could choose to go and be anywhere, I'm incredibly curious and knowledgeable about different communities and sensitive to small nuances that make seemingly similar places very different, and I have a wide experiential base to use to relate to people. You certainly learn to be resourceful and resilient.

[@carissa7434]

IYoure so right! I only moved once as a child too and it affected me too. Wasn’t bullied but definitely didn’t feel I belonged. I’m so triggered now that I have kids - any time another parent casually mentions moving to a different state or even town I choke down my instinct to scream don’t do it! @@ellixrose2650

[@ExtraordinaryMachine333]

"murder ruined my life!" Well have you tried not accepting it? Andrew Tate wouldn't, and then it just didn't happen.

[@earlymorningladyfarts]

Yeah, it's called being delusional.

[@gingerdevonshire1479]

Did y'all notice that when he said he ain't prone to depression, his accent changed? like it was his normal AT tone and then got a little bit more british, that was interesting.

[@marinakapes3958]

Why am I so emotionally invested in Fernando and Kaelyn’s relationship now lmao hello fellow couple that loves Kirk!

[@pickledoe212]

How would a therapist approach a client who exhibits the control tendencies mentioned at the end of this video?

[@Ununpentium]

Thanks for your balanced review! I like your analyses on therapy, even as a non-therapist, it gives so much useful insight. I have friends who have similar schemas like he has (control), so it is very interesting to hear about that!

[@carly2496]

Any idea why he speaks in that extremely forceful, fast way? Is he manic? Is it part of the narcissism? Is he trying to keep the therapist from speaking? It’s just so odd and off putting. If someone spoke at that volume and cadence to me in any setting, I’d want to get away from them quickly and quietly.

[@HB-dd3yg]

I think it’s about dominating the conversation. I think it’s extremely attractive, but then again I am someone who has only just realized that in reality I want a man like Andrew Tate, because David Sutcliffe said so.

[@SomeoneBeginingWithI]

24:34 I think you're right that he has a complex about needing to believe he's in control, and that could come from trauma, I'm not an expert on how those things develop. To be fair to Andrew Tate (who I don't like at all) he is describing an experiance where he lost a lot of the control the he normally does have. He's normally self employed, he has fans, he maybe has employees (I don't know much about him but a lot of youtubers have teams of editors and producers ect), he was very wealthy, and money does give you power. The contrast of going from that kind of life to prison in a foreign country is a lot. I think anyone would find that contrast difficult, even if they didn't have a complex of wanting to believe they're in control. He doesn't actually have complete control over his life, but the general point of "normally I have a lot of control over my life, and then suddenly I had no control" is true and reasonable.

[@sfooshy4517]

Why is OCPD not discussed more?

[@Treehead726]

I wanted to enjoy this because the little I know about this guy boggles my mind but Andrew Tate is such a turn off as a human being, I found this difficult to get through. Luckily Dr Honda talks a lot 😂

[@esikazemese]

I know exactly what you mean....

[@delia.m28]

I definitely relate to that. The way he talks so agitated and loud really triggers me, as you said as well, luckily Dr Honda talks a lot and his calm tone helps.

[@FrEaKyBOy913]

If you really watch long videos of Tate and not just short clips he makes often sense actually. He helped me through depression and many others aswell. Dont judge if you only know "a little about him". 🙏

[@esikazemese]

He is a lunatic. Go to therapy and get medicated if you are fighting depression and you can't pull yourself out of it. I don't give a fuck how often he makes sense, while the other half of it is teaching men how to shit on women claiming abuse is what they like. @@FrEaKyBOy913

[@Treehead726]

@@delia.m28 Yes! Exactly!

[@Mel-oe3dw]

Thank you Dr Honda

[@carissa7434]

Interesting. From my pov (average person, not therapist) I would think someone like Andrew Tate would be going to therapy just for validation. Obviously, he’s not the problem in his mind but he needs someone to confirm it. It sounds like he’s trying to convince his therapist that he is a good person and that he is looking for the therapist to agree.

[@sarahohara4022]

Great to hear your take on another therapy session! One seemingly less wacky than whatever that 90 day finance therapy show is doing lol

[@Gokce-Aysun]

Mr. Poopy Pants. 😂🤣😂

[@seizuregirlllll]

He reminds me of my dad. I honestly think he’s kind of psycho pathic.

[@lanagustafson1700]

is he suggesting that everyone who disagrees with him is “suffering from an affliction?

[@ddd5739]

Brilliant analysis

[@starsigngirl9789]

I love your Chanel and you

[@JesusChrististheonlyway777]

‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:17‭-‬21‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ [17] ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. [18] And on My menservants and on My maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days; And they shall prophesy. [19] I will show wonders in heaven above And signs in the earth beneath: Blood and fire and vapor of smoke. [20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord. [21] And it shall come to pass That whoever calls on the name of the Lord Shall be saved.’ ‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:25‭-‬28‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ [25] “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; [26] men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. [27] Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. [28] Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

[@therabbithat]

There is reseach that clients do better with therapists with similar personalities and world views.. Maybe Tate needs a misogynist just to shift a small bit. I could imagine a world where he focuses on therapy and gets a ladder of therapists, each slightly healthier than the last, each helping him see a tiny bit more of the parts of the world that he's cut himself off from

[@daypeanut4406]

This is how it worked for me!! When I started healing and started learning that I deserved more, I slowly moved from therapists who clearly had a lot of self-hatred and had a tendency to want control over me/ the alliance, to therapists who had a more stable sense of self. Which allowed them to let me grow into my more stable sense of self. My unstable sense of self, if I were a therapist, probably would have presented the way it did for my earlier therapists.

[@pradlark]

Him deluding himself definetly helps him be "successful" Dr Ana did a great video on how a lot of successful people incorrectly attribute their success to wholly themselves and are quite deluded in that, for me I would rather have a balance of truth and belief in myself, deluded success is egotistical imo

[@emilieholtmeier2409]

Where do you practice?

[@ironmonkeyswhat586]

His channel name is literally Psychology in Seattle...

[@shaliekk]

WHAT IS CHRISTOPHER HAYDEN DOING HERE

[@elfzeal]

Dr H, may your new year's resolution be to learn to say "asterisk"

[@NatureFreak1127]

Wow, i never thought i would feel sorry for Andrew Tate, but here we are. His story is quite tragic, really.

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Is that's the actor from Breaking Bad? Jesse's therapist?

[@cjgroom109]

They kinda don’t look alike at all

[@Riley_Christian]

Hey I have a suggestion! Pewdiepie apology video. I know its old, but it has like 20M views and was a big story at the time. On the topic of KZbinr apology, Pewdiepie was the #1 biggest on the platform for many years, would be interesting to see. Thanks

[@JesusChrististheonlyway777]

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions 2 Timothy 3:1-5 But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter Revelation 22:7 “And behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book

[@zeddeka]

I think like a lot of similar figures, Tate attracts a lot of very lost people. It's said that people who are narcissistic often attract people who have borderline traits. You can definitely see elements of how Tate would attract people looking for the "favourite person" thing which is so common in borderline. Someone who appears "strong" to them, who superficially gives them an identity and tribe that they lack. In their desperation to find something to cling to, they don't see that they are being manipulated. Similarly, the narcissist doesn't see that the attention they're getting from these borderline people is rooted in emotional desperation. They mistake it for worship.

[@Gokce-Aysun]

Andrew Tate is one of those human beings that confuses me. Sometimes he says really great things and seems to be very convicted and you can get a glimpse of him having a big heart and conscience underneath all that tough bad boy exterior. Then next time you hear him say something that makes you shake your head and do those whole face palm. It's really difficult to tell when and if he is being genuine also. Another person like that was Marilyn Manson. He did everything in his power to cultivate this shocking in your face horrific persona, when in reality he was just this aloof quiet timid guy (I actually met him and few times). Which came back to haunt him and bite him in the ass now. Another person I kind of have mixed feelings about is Candace Owens. Sometimes she does great journalism and says very logical and sensible and things and then she just takes it to another level on another plane by saying horrific things in other situations. I think this is why I have trust issues and don't trust human beings as much as some people do. 😂 I feel like all people are wearing masks. Some people are very skilled in not letting anyone see the true person behind the mask too.

[@therabbithat]

Timid? Sure.. You're not the only person who met him. Back in the day young women would warn each other which artists you should never try to go back stage to meet after a gig, and they would share what happened to them. Two I remember being on the lists were Manson and the base player from KoRn. I never found his persona shocking, I thought it was an attempt at art, a stage act. What was shocking was who he really was.

[@MeganSmith80]

Humanness is the same as humanity?

[@sidiray9269]

Andrew Tate 👍✊✊👍

[@inmyexpression19]

Can we talk about that pretentious steeple he’s doing with his fingers? He does that in a lot of his videos

[@inmyexpression19]

His thumbs probably buff got to soak them in ice after this interview he has not budged lol

[@jabreakitjubawtit4748]

Andrew is saying everything and nothing all at once

[@ibrahimabdigarad]

I understand that Andrew Tate uses Depression as An Energy or to get extra Boost or Motivation to solve the current Problem. And i like that because that's the way i deal with. To not happen Depression And i Agreed with Andrew's Perspective about Depression.

[@DuSt-zv8db]

I get that the technique of using challenging moments as a motivator might work for you, but the problem is that it does not work for everyone. One problem with Andrew's approach is that he operates under his own cultural lens, his singular experience, and deems his own techniques as universal truths, as if will work for everone else. We, however, must consider that everyone is different. Trauma affects people differently, everyone has differences in their brains. Major depression is not the same as temporary moments of sadness or depressive episodes. Some people confuse depressive episodes or moments of extreme sadness with depression, but it is not the same. There are different levels of depression and impacts as well (dysthymia vs. Major depression). If depression was a choice, no one would choose to have it. Look up the research in the differences in the brain and brain chemicals of people with depression vs. those without. With the right treatment, tools, coping strategies, and support, people might be able to manage depression and live a fulfilling life. But, one must distinguish between deppresive/sad episodes and actual clinical depression. One should consider that everyone is different, and therefore might need different tools and strategies to combat their challenges. Thinking that depression doesn't exist is not helpful. Strategies that might help you don't necessarily help others. Plus, strategies not based on research, such as many of those from Andrew, might only have (seemimgly) temporary positive affects, but in the long term.. who knows what will sustain. Mental health treatment in the u.s. was not recognized for the longest time. Men were conditioned to not talk about their mental health struggles, as if depression did not exist. Where has that gotten us? Men have the highest suicide rates in the U.S.

[@WildAntics13]

He is empty soul! Narcissist people are endless cistern they keep looking for someone to fill him up but they won’t find it! Just nothing but empty chaotic lonely soul! Stay away from this kind of people nothing is there just a door! 😂

[@JesusChrististheonlyway777]

My depression and suicidal thoughts were gone like a miracle when i accepted my Lord God Jesus Christ. “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but so that the world might be saved through Him. The one who believes in Him is not judged; the one who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. John 3:16‭-‬18 But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him. But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind. James 1:5‭-‬6 for “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Romans 10:13

[@izak5356]

I'm guessing that going from the brink of suicide after years of trauma and misery to a life of stability and success because you thought the sentence "Jesus Christ is my lord and saviour" is not a super common outcome.

[@m.r.e.5731]

First

[@_inmyhead]

So early :))

[@RHathemoment]

Same🥰 haha✨🙂

[@thashana_0194]

I feel very strange and uncomfortable seeing so many therapists and psychologists come online and use their profession to peel ppl back and talk about them like they aren't human. It feels like an abuse of power

[@izak5356]

Is that genuinely what you think happened here?

[@nicolasdupuis114]

Will Always believe the muscular handsome doer over the meek pudgy thérapies Sorry fam

[@ignoremychannel697]

He is a narcissist so therapy don’t help

[@anglina6659]

Depression is a first world choice!! Some of us in the third world actually face real suffering and pain, but we do not have a choice to sit around in bed all day crying about killing ourselves.

[@daisyo.6666]

Depression is about how you feel, not about how you behave. You can look perfectly fine on the outside and still meet the criteria for depression, so you do feel depression and it is not a first world choice. Most of us in the "first world" also do not sit around in bed crying all day as we also have bills to pay and things to take care of.

[@laujula]

A lot of people in third world countries are actually depressed. But sadly the stigma and lack of resources leaves a lot of people undiagnosed and unable to seek help. I am from a third world country and you are contributing to the stigma by characterizing depression as "sitting around all day crying". A lot of people work 8 hours and are depressed, it is sad that they are nor able to take the break that they need.

[@samanthas8340]

To meet criteria for major depression it means you have felt either depressed OR loss of interest in pleasure which must be combined with at least 5 symptoms but not necessarily all - for a period of 2 weeks those symptoms are (1)feeling sad/empty/hopeless or irritable (2) lost interest in activities you used to find pleasurable (3) weight gain/loss (4) I sommia/hypersomnia (5) feeling unable to move called psychomotor agitation (6) general fatigue, which is different than 5 (7) extreme feelings of worthlessness or guilt (8) difficulty concentrating, and (9) suicidal ideation. Again you only need 5 our of the 9. I will add too, that depression is biological. some people have brains that produce less serotonin or dopamine, hence why medication is often prescribed.

[@elzzz2000]

That's like saying cancer is a first world choice. That people in other countries dont have time to sit and worry about dying of cancer

[@zoeselenastuart7936]

Or.... A hierarchy of needs perhaps?

[@archonofvoid]

You are literally coming up with things andrew would say when he literally said the opposite. He said many times he has been wrong and changed idea. What are you manifesting about? Also your ominpotent god analogy is theologically ignorant, god responds to the laws of logic, therefore can't make something immune of his omnipotence because it is not logic. Pretty sure you're reacting to this with an overarching bias just to please the fact that your viewership hates this man. Disappointing way to go really, not a good look

[@SN0606]

Spot on!

[@dogecoin1692]

I thought he was level headed.

[@MeMore-pz4zk]

I disagree. When asked the first question, it appeared that Andrews INITIAL reaction was to focus on how others have challenged him (outward), instead of focusing inwardly. He appeared to immediately go on the defense, which is something I have noticed he often does, which comes off as he is trying to prove himself. The question itself appeared to be posed in a way that was to talk about specific instances in which, internally, his convictions were challenged, but instead he chooses to initiate the conversation talking about how others are wrong. As for the God response, I believe Dr. Honda was just giving a scenario/example and then possible responses that others may give, responses that can be observable and can be documented when talking to others, and not necessarily what he himself believes. However, your response appears to me based on a subjective interpretation stated as a fact. The problem with this is, everyone can have a different beliefs system or interpretation of this topic because it is subjective and not observable.

[@archonofvoid]

@@dogecoin1692 i don't value level headedness, i value genuinity. He can express disgust for all I care but not on imaginary invented meta projections of who andrew tate is in his mind, compared to what he's saying

[@MeMore-pz4zk]

I do believe and agree with Mr. Honda and @dogecoin1692. I don't believe that Dr. Honda was just "coming up with things" as you say @archonofvoid. I feel Dr. Honda was being BOTH level-headed AND genuine in this video. People can be both, those traits do not have to be mutually exclusive. If anything, I would argue that being level headed is BETTER than being genuine alone, as someone can be exclusively "genuine" (not level headed) AND have bad or misguided intentions. Because they feel justified, we will often see these types of individuals proudly announce their beliefs/partake in harmful actions (ex. oppressive people in power). I feel it is important to be level-headed: to be calm, sensible, rational, reasonable..to look at things from different points of view (critically think).These things are important, especially when encountering challenging situations. I believe that without level headedness, one risks the chance of being uninformed, illogical, biased, irrarional. I felt Dr. Honda was trying to look at different perspectives. In this video he exemplifies this when brings up the topic of CBT.

[@mikebane2866]

Nooo, I want to see the rest of this today! I’ve always been curious what this guy’s deal is, he’s always sparked a lot of anger I have about some past bullies I had back in my childhood. Recognizing that, I’m more curious why these people think the way they do and see their humanity.

[@JJ-hx8eo]

He has low self esteem. Also seems irritated with the therapist. I’ve been in therapy throughout the years learning therapy $$ it’s mostly a con job.