Ten things non musicians get wrong about music | RANKED

[@davebarker4880]

Thank you, Andy for saying "Great music needs great listeners." I can't play any instrument and I can't sing, but I appreciate and listen to great music. And I appreciate you and your work.

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

A retired colleague of mine with much brain capacity has very precise hearing with multiphonic perception. He says he has never been able to listen to popular music because it has always been so dull music. So he has been passionate about different kinds of classical music using an expensive hi-fi system. He doesn't know any theory but is very much a trained and skilled listener. Listening is definitely _a skill_ . It also can be trained and developed infinitely, just like playing music.

[@lonewolf8667]

@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw Isn't popular music a wide array of genres that sounds different from decade to decade? What genres is he referring to?

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

@lonewolf8667 You figure it out. What has had most plays on radio and such. Burgermusic for the masses.

[@lonewolf8667]

@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw I haven't listened to the radio in at least 16 years. I have tried to listen to Taylor Swift and Kanye since they are in the news sometimes. I thought that all music that are played a lot and are well known are popular music which would be rock, progressive rock, electronika, techno, dance, jazz, blues, some classical pieces, punk, grunge, metal, synth etc.

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

@@lonewolf8667 Don't overthink it. The general quality of what the companies have pushed on the public for decades.

[@James-hd4ms]

This is one of your ten best shows.

[@mymixture965]

As a pro guitar player for 40 years now, all I can say is that ALL THIS IS TRUE. Andy, you are giving the secrets away🙂

[@stuartmenziesfarrant]

👍 yup

[@pjjmsn]

Great point about art weaving the objective and subjective together. I never saw it from that angle before.

[@sat1241]

Listen to this one by Ahmad Jamal, " I Love Music". It has some similarities to Bill Evans but with some Tyner mixed in.

[@boudiccamarchestorome9475]

Yeah, Andy, I'm not sure why you worry that this will annoy non-musicians. I began as a child playing violin, piano, and guitar. I played and sang briefly with garage bands. Luckily, my parents had eclectic tastes. Took music theory in college, and then came to the conclusion that I wasn't skilled enough (shades of Ian Anderson backing off the electric guitar). I then got sort of creative on my own: I was often the only woman in an all-male blue collar skilled trade and 20 years later, I had succeeded despite obstacles. I also developed a new-found appreciation in the lyrics of music, and have since discovered that great lyrics are almost harder to come by than great music.

[@pedrohorta6266]

Best hour-long Andy Rant ever👌

[@stevensimons9813]

Another killer show, Andy. That Dylan guy, he’s The Rock Poet. Give his later albums a chance. He’s still got it.

[@cameronpatrickscott]

Need the old red light recording in progress...

[@davidstair9657]

I am in my Home studio, in the midst of the most amazing solo in the history of mankind, my wife knocks and asks me to take out the rubbish. She does not note the tears streaming down my face, mingled with sweat… and perhaps blood. My wife does not understand. I love her, but she is not a musician, though she loves Alice in Chains. She says it is the same with her and her true crime and murder shows… that I don’t understand…

[@william6223]

She does not, cannot, and will never understand. Carry on. I understand Rock hard!😂

[@MG53v8]

@@davidstair9657 mine always shows up chatting during the best take of the day, bless her.

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

Aren't the TV shows and Alice in chains enough clues?

[@davidc.williams-swanseauk3623]

I hear you brother! A prophet is never accepted in his own land.

[@chrisbennett1243]

My girlfriend was a singer songwriter before she suffered a brain injury. During lockdown I started playing a lot of guitar and got a bit better. I wrote a song and recorded it on my phone. I played it to her in the car on Bluetooth without telling her who it was. I said what do you think of this she said it’s f…..g s..t I said do you know who it’s bye I said it’s me. Oh it’s not bad she said I naturally went for her first opinion as I knew it was honest.

[@drytool]

What an education! Priceless!

[@neildobson4389]

Music can be experienced at many levels. The technical. The lyrical. The emotional. The cultural. You appreciate one level only.

[@MrSatampra]

The typical way we determine whether something is good or not is by comparing it to what we have heard before. This is how we know how to judge something. But if the thing is truly new and original, we have nothing to compare it to and therefore, we don't really know how to judge it.

[@erikheddergott5514]

That is were we Non-Musicians can Risk ourselves. From 1979 to about 1984 we had “New Wave”. Pop and Rock that used Approaches that went against the Grain of what was done in Pop and matured Hyphon-Rock. We didn’t now whether that Stuff or these Musicians would last longer than 5 to 6 Years. But the BOF‘s of Flower Power Pop and Hippie Rock usually didn‘ get it. They neither got Prince nor Talking Heads in their first 5 to 6 Years. They were considered to be Neon Colored Anti-Authentic Plastic Producers. But many Non Musicians were the Reason why this New Wavers had Gigs. To take it to the Extreme: It‘s not Musicians who define good Pop, its 12 to 21 Year old „Girls“. It‘s not Musicians who defined good Rock, it was 15 to 25 Years old „Boys“!

[@WordsRuinMusic]

I had this video playing while doing yoga

[@incognitoatunknown2702]

I drink up the Philosophy 'formerly Sunday' YT videos like a frat boy chugging beers at a kegger. Your Top Ranked videos are great fun (I do learn things from them as well) but for me, these videos hold the most value for my viewing time X the space it takes up in my brain to mull over.

[@spacechallenger5767]

This is a really good one Andy !🙌🏿

[@Mondgeist7777]

Even if you have just 30 fans who watch the content on your page, instagram, KZbin, or other … you have an audience! Keep at it!

[@davidbarnes3232]

Excellent video. You have a great talent for articulating your thoughts and ideas in a way that is informative, detailed and entertaining.

[@davidbarnes3232]

Don't you sleep

[@HansGijswijt]

Yet again thoroughly enjoyed your video, Andy. Not only are you at very funny, your opinions are always crystal clear and well founded. Not a musician myself, I do however recognise the immense love for music. And our tastes are probably quite different! Very happy to have come across your channel! Keep up the good work!

[@pjjmsn]

I agree with what you said about Bill Evans, Andy, that there is so much information in his music that that can make it hard to listen to. In the same vein, I have had experiences where I shut it off because it was too emotional for me at the time, in a melancholy way. But things have shifted for me and now I can listen to it without such an aversive reaction.

[@christopher9152]

Your Philosophy Saturday videos are the main reason why I follow your channel, though I enjoy the others. DO NOT STOP MAKING THEM. OK? Nobody else on KZbin is doing this. Plenty are doing ranking videos.

[@MatthewSearComposer]

These type of videos are a real service to any of us working in music in these changing times. Thank you. Sincerely. 🙏 While I have a lot of skepticism about the way music education has gone, one thing I would say that is positive, is that several degree courses run (in uk conservatoires) have modules specifically about marketing, social media, Patreon and instilling in students how they have to more than ever be entrepreneurial. (I sat this module in 2021 as a returning student on a post grad course). In the mid to late 90’s. The expectations was completely different (when I was an undergraduate). It was ‘I’ve gotten into this good institute and I will work as a French horn player/harpist/composer etc once I leave.

[@Chiller11]

Pretty interesting episode. I spent the bulk of my twenties mastering a skill other than music. I believe I got pretty good at it. I also picked up a classical guitar and learned a little bit about that genre because I loved listening to excellent guitarists and found that learning to play it a bit was a healthy correction to the single minded efforts I put into my professional pursuits. I’ve played guitar off and on, in different forms since then though I haven’t become very proficient at it. For the last 8 to ten years or so I’ve been learning jazz standards and the rudiments of improvisation though I’m still not a very proficient guitarist. I’m no longer able to practice my profession so I have a little more time to spend on music. I do believe that, though I haven’t become a very good guitarist, I am better able to discern a good guitarist. Because I know a little music theory, I better understand what true musicians are communicating. That’s why I like this channel. I’m not going to formally study music but channels like this do broaden and deepen my limited ability to understand the art form.

[@JDWDMC]

Allan Holdsworth. Bill Bruford's Master Strokes Anthology has some of the most emotional content ever played on guitar. That album remains fresh and important to me in a way very few other albums do and a lot of it, despite me being a drummer, is down to Allan Holdsworth's massive contribution to this body of work. All the musos on it are fantastic. "Fainting in Coils" is one of my favourite pieces ever. But then many people disagree, vehemently, with me, including my wife. Good video though, mate!

[@originalhgc]

Lovely talk today, Sensei. I am enlightened again.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@TheBaylanscroftSignal]

10 things non-philosophers get wrong about philosophy...

[@martyhopkirk6826]

Ha! Had to smile! (Professional philosopher here.)

[@Matias-music-71]

@@martyhopkirk6826 , professor ?

[@Matias-music-71]

I would say likely the deepest , most astute philosopher is the one we never met , perhaps that sheep farmer in the hills of Romania ;) ..,

[@g.belanger8302]

Can you please create a video about this and put it on your channel. By the way, I assume you have a doctorate in philosophy?

[@Matias-music-71]

@@g.belanger8302 doctorate in philosophy .., why would that be of any importance ?

[@erikheddergott5514]

Chuck Berry wrote his own Songs. He started the Rock Revolution that made the Singer-Songwriter Guitarplayer the Archetype of the Rock Auteur, surely more than Eddie Cochran. Before him the Stars of Rock‘n‘Roll were Singers, Piano Players and Tenor Sax Players.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Yes you are right, as did Ray Charles. Ike Turner etc,

[@oscarvelaguitar]

Great video and great content!!

[@simonmccafferty]

Andy, well said! I so needed to hear someone else express all that so eloquently. From 50 minutes on I was cheering you on and clapping, thank you for making me shriek in appreciation. I think I enjoyed this more than any of your other videos so far.

[@trippknotic]

I’m definitely up for the wigs video😂

[@robertlewis8024]

Count me in!

[@boudiccamarchestorome9475]

Funny bit about John Paul Jones' wig. If Andy is highlighting his enviable hair, he scores on that one.

[@pjjmsn]

I like the idea that the purpose of great music is to teach the listener, or evolve the listener in a spiritual way. I think Mclaughlin's Guru, Sri Chinmoy, stated that music can bring you to enlightenment. And it was in that spirit that I would listen to every note of Mclaughlin and his cohorts that I could get my hands on during my formative years. I drifted away from that idea later, as I questioned the meaning of things, but I have since returned to it.

[@johannhauffman323]

Great video Andy ! Very interesting.

[@sanityclause-r8z]

I'm not saying this one went on a bit Andy, but the ad breaks came as a blessed relief at times, and there were quite a few. I'll definitely be there for your wigs video though!

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Philosophy Saturday videos are supposed to go on too long. Next week I might do a video that is really too long as an experiment...that is a great idea. It will be called 'How Long is Too Long'

[@bshymko1]

You seem to be an interesting fellow, Andy. Subbed, from small-town rural Canada.

[@calum54]

Well, all I’ve got to say is that Rick Beato thinks that Jeff Beck is a virtuoso. So there. This is one of the best ones you’ve done Andy. thanks very much.

[@NealMurfitt]

Talking about fast playing, that banjo solo in Electric Sighs reduces me to tears every time. So much feeling.

[@cameronpatrickscott]

Uve got a football stadiums worth of mates Andy, and i'm one of em.

[@aminahmed2220]

Awesome video have a great weekend Andy ❤😊

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Thanks for the visit

[@Musika1321]

We do want to watch them. Crack on!

[@erikmaronde2244]

I was well aware that I was the least skilled bass player around in my first bands. Nevertheless I got and kept the job until the point where I quit for personal, non-musical reasons. I also quit because I realized that I will never be good enough to be a professional and make a living from playing music. Thankfully. It was hard enough to get ahead in my business area (research in biology/ medicine). 😎🎶🤷🖖

[@dpaulm]

Bravo, Andy! From a big fan in Alberta, Canada. Love your content!

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Thanks for watching!

[@georgeeskiadis5637]

This was a great philosophy Saturday episode, and along with the weekly ones they're my favourites. A lot of valid points given on this video that are nothing but plain facts. Especially regarding the harsh reality that many creative people have to face when they step outside their friendly fanbase and are dropped into the competitive side of the art world.

[@lindajennings7375]

Wings Of Pegasus shows a video of Taylor Swift using autotune LIVE.

[@SuperStrik9]

Fil's great. He's doing important work imo. Showing things how they really are.

[@AndrewjWilson]

It makes you think ,when will recording musicians be obsolete?

[@erikheddergott5514]

Dennis Chambers who was a Biggie in the Studioszene of the early 1980ties actively searched for Jobs in the Jazzrock Fusion Szene because he feared already back then that the Time of real Drumming in the Studios will vanish. And that he might get replaced by the „Machines“. So he got himself a Job with John Scofield, after that he went to John Mc Laughlin and returned to Funk mainly for Maceo Parker. He often played in CAB and Mike Stern. As said: He already saw this 40 Years Ago.

[@lindajennings7375]

Thanks for mentioning Allan Holdsworth I was lucky enough to meet him after a gig in 1989

[@lindajennings7375]

Check out Allan's solo on Hazard Profile (Soft Machine) live at Montreux 1974

[@lindajennings7375]

But Allan's tune Land Of The Bag Snake is another crazy great tune. His face on the performance shows how much emotion he is exuding. Ridiculous playing sooooo good

[@jpmwright]

Great video. I honestly think it might be your best. Your rant about soccer had me in stiches 😂 I have exactly the same feeling as you. I would rather be listening to music in primary school than watching a bunch of plonkers kicking a ball around. Music was casual for everyone but I took it seriously. Very good points, maybe time to write a book...... But please narrate the audio book.

[@aaronhayman8558]

I agree... and the thing about virtuoso musicians in rock bands rings especially true for me. Over the years, I've heard so much talk from folks about who they consider the greatest musicians, and when they're talking about such things, they usually mean the most skilled musicians. They'll typically mention well-known rock players without understanding that what makes these folks great has far more to do with their artistic vision than with their raw skill as a players. As you said, musicians with the greatest level of skill are the ones who may not be in some famous band, who have created well known, signature parts but are the type of players who can sight read anything, in any style and come up with a part (which may not be all that memorable, but works for the piece of music they're working on) on the spot. By the same token, I've heard a lot of folks talk about musicians that they know who are capable of playing any piece of music, and they wonder why these people aren't famous. They don't realize that every town has players who are probably far more accomplished, at least as far a skill goes, than the musicians in their favorite bands, but these folks don't necissarily have the artistic vision to create anything memorable.... They are great craftsmen, but don't rate as artists. So many people don't seem to have much understanding of creativity, and seem to assume that songs just come out of nowhere, and that the really important part is simply the skills needed to play them...

[@aaronhayman8558]

The other thing that I would say about music that you didn't seem to touch on is that it's not true that music is somehow a universal thing. Sure, some artists are more broadly appreciated, like the Beatles and Bach, but play that music for a person from a nomadic tribe in Africa with little exposure to Western culture and they likely have no refernce point in which to appreciate it from. It would be incomprehensible to them, just like lots of music is to lots of people. If they were to bother learning something about the music though, so that they understand basic things about how it was made and it's cultural context, they may end up gaining the tools need to appreciate it...

[@exploringthemusicaluniverse]

Musicians reactions are usually the most informative.

[@davidc.williams-swanseauk3623]

Hi Andy. I have just finished watching your latest video in its entirety and agree with most of what you said. However, I would take issue with one particular point. I have listened to Alan Holdsworth several times, including back in the day when he would be on the Old Grey Whistle Test. He was a very impressive guitarist but he never moved me. Roger Waters once said that if music doesn't move you then there is little point to it. However, I am not alien to complexity and I consider myself a serious listener!. If you listen to Harless heart or The Firth of Fifth Tony Bank is equally brilliant. The former is simplicity itself but the genius is coming up with that sequence of notes. John Williams 5 note sequence in Close Encounters (He apparently attempted hundreds of combinations before settling on that sequences) OR Dave Gilmour and his universally liked 4 note riff on Shine on you Crazy Diamond. Meanwhile let's go back to Tony Banks for a moment. The Piano solo on The Firth of Fifth is admired by concert pianists and is highly complex. Admittedly it is not the Rachmaninov 3, but you take my point. Now consider Clare De lune. The first 2 minutes even I could play but after 2 minutes the speed is highly impressive. I love that 2. Perhaps I am missing something so I have a question for you. Which tracks best showcase Alan Holdsworth's skills and emotion? In closing, AND I WOULD LOVE A REPLY, I also lobe Bill Evans. One of the reasons that he was not so well-known is due to his cultural background. People like myself who are Welsh are not known for our pushiness and tend to hide our light under a bushel. It is a Welsh disease that we are far too modest. I won't go into it any further as this could be an entire PhD thesis. I spent 17 years in HK and 5 years in London so I am not your typical South Walian. Perhaps I am wrong but this may be a contributory factor to Bill Evans' lack of recognition. Also, the media are not great at promoting Welsh people. For example, most people do not realise that Bertrand Russel was Welsh.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Try Endomorph and Devil Take The Hindmost

[@GlennSmith-m2e]

My experience at the lower end of things is the tedium of soundchecks. I firmly maintain that alcoholism and drugs are a way of coping with being forced to listen to some Herbert repeat "one, one.....one" for hours on end. They never get to two! And there's only so many times you can amuse yourselves by requesting "more bottom". It wouldn't be so bad if the monitors ever worked and you could hear yourself on stage. All popular music starts as dance music and ballads. Every time anyone thinks they've transcended it, it stops functioning and is headed for the history books. It's like Scooby Doo. We would have got away with art if it wasn't for you pesky kids/bumpkins wanting something new to jig about to and moon over your beloved/ex about.

[@PeterWasted]

I'm sure Richie Blackmore will be high on the list of Iconic Wig wearers. This video is exactly why I subscribe and support you on Patreon. I'm not totally sold on your top two points, but then, I'm not a musician. I do find "fast" playing can often be distracting from the apparent intent of the music. It doesn't mean I can't appreciate the skill involved and I fully accept that it works for the musicians involved. My position though, as a listener IS equally valid. Perhaps the real issue is how non-musicians voice their opinions. Perhaps, "not to my taste" and, "I can't get emotionally engaged" are better descriptors but the whole of the English speaking world is set up as if our personal opinions are somehow superior to those of others. May I suggest Steven Wilson's Drive Home as a good gateway song for understanding how fast playing can be emotional?

[@billsharkey9365]

I miss my cat Andy !! 🥲

[@6teeth]

Make better music and it might not run away again.P

[@x2mars]

Nice essay. ❤

[@Alex-nm7qx]

Excellent talk, Andy - One of your best. Interesting that you mentioned Shawn Lane. I always refer to him as "The greatest guitarist nobody talks about" - a true genius who left us WAY too soon due to health problems. He worshiped Allan Holdsworth. Every time I hear Buckethead, I hear a little bit of Shawn Lane in there. Your observation about art weaving the objective and subjective together was brilliant as well. Bravo. +1 for a top ten wigs video.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Lenny Breau is without doubt the guitar genius that nobody talks about, but Lane was incredible too, and super emotional as well

[@craigtodd8297]

Haven't watched it yet but No1 for me is sight reading rhythm. It's not hard yet so beneficial.

[@flamesintheattic]

Things musicians assume about music that are incorrect: Your skill, technique, production, recording quality, mixing, ideas, vision, wants, needs or genre don't matter in the slighest if you don't write a song that connects with the audience. One person's virtuosity is another person's wankery. If you don't connect with the listener, technique doesn't matter. Dylan said himself that he doesn't know how he wrote songs in the past. He said whatever he was channeling is gone and he doesn't have that skill anymore. Some bands are not skilled, they are lucky. They had one or two good albums, and ten or twenty bad ones that are huge time wasters.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

I made this to counteract this type of nonsense but people will hold on to it, anyway...when you say 'connect with the audience' is that everyone or just a section of the audience. If it is the latter could there be a section that connects with what you have decided to call 'wankery'?

[@AndrewjWilson]

Great video thanks 😊

[@Aranxo]

I liked the Thriller-like squeeze of the door when your buddy came in. At first I thought you extracted the sound from Jacko's record to make some fun.

[@elithepitbulldog2209]

Thanks for confirming why I love Coltrane!

[@amedeusmozart]

my auntie Rosie has the same hair-do

[@MarcoGualtieri]

Super entertaining. The Buble stuff is hilarious

[@robertlewis8024]

It seems to be symptomatic of this information/media age, that everyone thinks/feels that they know more than they do.....about almost everything.

[@marknovak6498]

I listen to music from today but mostly from the 60s and 70s. In terms of wealth, Bruce Springsteen only had maybe $20,000 his name until "Born in the USA" made his bank and later albums kept his rich.

[@urbangorilla33]

Bill Evans' "You Must Believe in Spring" is sublime.

[@96cmb]

good teacher!

[@taylorius]

I've definitely noticed a thing with youtube "reactions" to music, where the people listening will attempt to assess it on some arcane technical level, focusing on minutae like the quality of a snare drum sound, or some microphone they think might've been used - rather than appreciating the song as a whole, and allowing it to elicit an emotional response. They do seem to be apeing the sort of technical "studio producer" speak that one hears, in an attempt to sound authoritative.

[@AliciaHenning-gc8zc]

Loved that cat song, Andy.

[@chrisdunn1155]

Point no.2 got me thinking... I have friends who talk about Zappa in hushed tones and tears in there eyes. Now I like Zappa - got a few albums and The Mothers of Invention are fascinating. And i didn't need Pierre Boulez to point out how sophisticated and technical he is. But I have never responded emotionally to his music.

[@craigsolomon4783]

It is a serious responsibility for Artists expression to be comprehended by others.

[@tinderproductions]

Bring on the wigs!

[@lupcokotevski2907]

Listening to music is an investigation into how much you will enjoy it. Deeper investigation doesn't necessarily result in greater enjoyment. All music needs to appreciate all listeners. Dylan played on folkie singer songwriter Carolyn Hester's third album before he had a record deal. I have the vinyl (1961). Carolyn is still going around aged 87.

[@PaulBergen]

Brilliant!

[@PaulBergen]

You've got me revisiting Bill Evans. Of course it ends up pointing me to other past pianists too - Lennie Tristano for instance I have to have to hear more of.

[@billsybainbridge3362]

Geez Andy, that's a bit of a ramble. Ever heard the Composer's Creed? Check it out: "There are no bad sounds or bad styles. just inappropriately placed ones." How about them apples?

[@CasperLCat]

Bring on the wigs ! I nominate Samantha Fish in the category of Best Marilyn Monroe Wig.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

And best legs owned by a blues guitarist

[@artofdissonance4091]

" Art is not for everyone. If it's for everyone, its NOT art ". Arnold Schönberg

[@lesblatnyak5947]

If a child is exposed to classical music and complex music, under the age of 2, they will be smarter and a healthier soul that loves music. Plus, Zappa would not stand a chance of having his music produced today. ✨️🎶✨️

[@James-hd4ms]

And that’s a good thing.

[@NealMurfitt]

Evidenced by Rigby Otto's son Dylan. I so agree with you.

[@soundssimple1]

Good video, No9, you never have got over Milliontown have you ? Still an outstanding album in my collection.

[@Chadner]

IT Crowd mentioned!!!

[@pjjmsn]

I think Stevie Ray moved the blues forward without changing it into something else.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

He was an incredible player, but, no, he just created a world where John Mayer can become a millionaire

[@yourdogsnews]

It aint rock but buddy rich's wig better be there

[@JunkerOnDrums]

Thank you for many good points :D I did not know Michael Bubble is using autotune. Some of his arragnements are great, and if you want to hear a pale Frank Sinatra live - imposible since Sinatra is dead - that's and option. Poor listeners must be educated to be good listeners :D P.S: Love Bill Evans!

[@demonsbutterfly]

Great Topic Your conversation reminded me of a long running argument I had with a mate. He says that Keith Moon is the number 1 drummer on the planet. Now i love the Who, and Moon was a brilliant drummer, Quadrophenia is his pinnacle for me. BUT he was awful at keeping time. It was Entwhistle who kept them grounded. Moon played drums as a lead instrument!!! Modern music doesn’t sound right because of cut and paste loops…

[@AndrewjWilson]

I once saw a Blondie tribute band and the irony was, playing drums was originall Blondie drummer, Clem Burke😊

[@lonewolf8667]

Wouldn't that be like Nick Mason playing with a band that performs old Pink Floyd songs?

[@ectoplasma5]

I would never go to a concert just for one or two hit songs.

[@predragmanov6341]

I respectfully disagree with the premise that virtuoso is someone who can read well and play all styles of music (basically a jack of all trades). People such as Wes Montgomery, Django or Allan Holdsworth couldn't read music much or cared about playing all styles but still rightfully deserved the virtuoso label (in my view at least)

[@patrickselden5747]

I like this video a lot - it's really got me thinking... ☝️😎 P. S. Bring on the wigs...

[@123jkjk123]

Loved your take on Americana, hilarious and your actually authentic opinions. One inconsistency (imho) is that I don't get how a virtuoso who can play anything as you say can be authentic when he may not even like the song or style of music in front of him. Also Pink Floyd and Gilmour have A LOT more in them then the blues and blue bends - you may need to do some re-listening there.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

My answer is great art does not need to be authentic to be great

[@MartinU4179]

nice one. I agree with many of your pounts. I suspect that when you say many times '...and there is nothing wrong with that' you actually mean 'there is alot wrong with that from an expanded musical point of view for purpose of innovative, mental and emotional stimulation rather than yoga or a pacifier. The difference between merits of art and generic wall paper.

[@brianjames5685]

One question. What's wrong with my mum? I never had that encouragement about my guitar. She's nearly 85 and last year I thought I'll have another crack at impressing her. I learned La Cavatina because she knows and likes the song. She was very concerned about the neighbours, it was 2 o clock in the afternoon, and I didn't get to find out if she liked it or not. Even my son said after she left "did she not mention the song?"

[@themoorchannel]

Friends coming out to see you play live? Have you ever been in a band?

[@CaptHiltz]

Give friends and family a three strikes and you're out rule. If they don't show after 3 invites they go off the list. Get the invite list down to those that come to see you at least one third to half the gigs you play.

[@cameronpatrickscott]

@@CaptHiltz right you are!

[@taykitrleevitt4314]

​@@CaptHiltzWhat happens if you have your own life and commitments? 😮...🙄...😊...😂

[@taylorius]

I'm in my early 50s, and in a rock band. Let's see what we've got... Tribute act to a dead art form - check. Will never make any money - check. Record everything live, with no post-fiddling (other than a bit of reverb and eq) so it sounds highly imperfect - check. A bit old, and definitely not hot enough for social media - check. Ok, I think we're all set! 😆

[@PaulD70]

#9 confirms and even goes beyond what I thought about the use of drum track, triggers and samples. How was music popular for so long with little imperfections in the sound and timing of drums?! I can’t wait until AI and Virtual Reality can be applied to all aspects of life! We mustn’t settle for anything less than perfection! 😂

[@thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697]

As the dad of one of my roommates in college once said: The masses are assess.

[@carlosgaspar8447]

in a short number of years, dylan wrote some spiritual songs that are better than the majority of "christian" music. i shall be released, sets the standard.

[@rickwills4281]

Thoroughly absorbed by your subject matter, then my attention is drawn to the rubbish under the mixer....what was in the polystyrene tray??...............

[@ronchambers3713]

I think of your entire rant the piece on authenticity and Woody Guthrie was particularly on it. Some bands knew this, Led Zeppelin made no shame of their reliance on older forms. Also having had some exposure to the live music scene in a major city I knew the economics of the business. One point I feel needs emphasizing is that there are 50 artists or bands that had way more talent than XYZ band rolling in success that never see any level of success

[@srvuk]

An interesting submission with some valid points. When it comes to being an expert listener, it is true that they exists, there are somewhere between 7 and 8 billion expert listeners on the planet. All art is subjective simply because the listener/viewer decides what is good, bad and in-between to them. There is no need for discussion on this because it is indisputable. The listener/viewer is also the person that decides whether what the artists produces is worth investing in, so that the artists can continue to be artistic and capitalistic at the same time. I might appreciate the skills of John McLoughlin, Frank Zappa and others but what thy output to my ears is simply not what moves me and so I accept that it is not to my taste and will find something that is. Others will love it and invest in t. But I do not need to train anything to make myself a better listener because decades of life on the planet (although it may only have taken a few years to establish much of what I required) has given me all the skills that I require to make subjective and/or objective decisions. Ergo I am always right about what is good or bad and so is every other person on earth.

[@Veaseify]

The thing about artists not making any money is generally true (about 60% of songwriters registered with the performing rights society make less tnan 250 quid a year from royalties). but all you needed back in the 70's was ONE big song and you were set up for life. Noddy Holder calls 'Merry Xmas Everybody' his pension. Gerry Rafferty was still getting 80 grand a year in royalties from Baker Street when he died in 2011. Norman Greenbaum probably can't count the cash that 'Spirit In The Sky' has made him from all of the film and TV tie ins plus the approximately one million compilation albums it has been on.

[@SuperStrik9]

First thing that comes to mind is the $ cost of being in a band. Everything from gas money to rehearsal space rent to the cost of recording in a studio... Also a lot of non musicians think if an artist/band have gone platinum they're rolling in the dough millionaires lol.