Ten things non musicians get wrong about music | RANKED

[@davebarker4880]

Thank you, Andy for saying "Great music needs great listeners." I can't play any instrument and I can't sing, but I appreciate and listen to great music. And I appreciate you and your work.

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

A retired colleague of mine with much brain capacity has very precise hearing with multiphonic perception. He says he has never been able to listen to popular music because it has always been so dull music. So he has been passionate about different kinds of classical music using an expensive hi-fi system. He doesn't know any theory but is very much a trained and skilled listener. Listening is definitely _a skill_ . It also can be trained and developed infinitely, just like playing music.

[@lonewolf8667]

@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw Isn't popular music a wide array of genres that sounds different from decade to decade? What genres is he referring to?

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

@lonewolf8667 You figure it out. What has had most plays on radio and such. Burgermusic for the masses.

[@lonewolf8667]

@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw I haven't listened to the radio in at least 16 years. I have tried to listen to Taylor Swift and Kanye since they are in the news sometimes. I thought that all music that are played a lot and are well known are popular music which would be rock, progressive rock, electronika, techno, dance, jazz, blues, some classical pieces, punk, grunge, metal, synth etc.

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

@@lonewolf8667 Don't overthink it. The general quality of what the companies have pushed on the public for decades.

[@markperry9427]

"You are all here because you love music" YES, and that is why we tune in to your videos Andy, not because we're specific genre fans but because we love music, we live and love to talk about music, we want our understanding of music to grow, it is the passion of our soul. "I have spent my time, not learning new things but unlearning the assumptions I had about music". That my friend is our journey through life and the older I get the more I understand that, unlearning all the rubbish I've been taught to assume and at last become a person I recognize in the mirror.

[@annonimouse170]

Excellent post... I concur.

[@coolguitarchannel]

Andy is the only major music KZbinr that says the things all we proper music fans think. The point about real music fans having the ears to hear true music, no matter the medium in which it’s delivered, is quite true. It’s doesn’t matter the speed, or the style, etc. But harmony, execution…those things matter.

[@James-hd4ms]

This is one of your ten best shows.

[@mymixture965]

As a pro guitar player for 40 years now, all I can say is that ALL THIS IS TRUE. Andy, you are giving the secrets away🙂

[@stuartmenziesfarrant]

👍 yup

[@toddapplegate3988]

Same

[@candelise]

@@toddapplegate3988 So what if the secrets are given away? Ultimately, not everyone has the talent , inclination, dedication, urge, or just plain state of mind for sheer hard graft in learning an instrument, let alone taking things as far as sharing what you can accomplish in front of an audience.

[@Liisa3139]

To paraphrase the saying "you can't step into the same stream twice" I would say "you can't listen to the same music twice". That is my experience as a listener. I put on a Beatles record - one of the early, "simple", ones - and it is different every time. Because I'm different from one moment to the next and the more I listen to the same song, the more I find in it. I don't listen to "same old songs" for nostalgic reasons like so many people seem to do. (My memory is crap. Hardly remember any special moments.) I listen to my favorite music again to rediscover it, to hear it better. This way there is tons of new music to listen. Not to forget new releases that may season into "good old songs". Listened to Santana's Abraxas album last night and noticed how proggy it is. His work has been labeled so Latin that the label hides how much more it is than that.

[@vagabond197979]

I know what you mean. I try to revisit my favorite albums at least once a year. I find that as a listener I have grown when I discover new things to like (or sometimes dislike) in an album I've heard a hundred times. That's one of the cool things about music. Even old music can become new again. I love that.

[@mazieways]

Comedian, pundit, musician philosopher… plus a wig video coming soon- you are amazing Andy!

[@christopher9152]

Your Philosophy Saturday videos are the main reason why I follow your channel, though I enjoy the others. DO NOT STOP MAKING THEM. OK? Nobody else on KZbin is doing this. Plenty are doing ranking videos.

[@pjjmsn]

Great point about art weaving the objective and subjective together. I never saw it from that angle before.

[@sat1241]

Listen to this one by Ahmad Jamal, " I Love Music". It has some similarities to Bill Evans but with some Tyner mixed in.

[@frankr.6578]

Thanks a lot, Andy! All your vids are as Informative and entertaining as KZbin entries possibly can be. Almost 40 years ago I had to decide whether to go on with music as a profession. I am now happy that I didn't. Now retired I can do music just for fun not having lost pleasure in doing so. I know several pro musicians ending up in jobs doing things they don't like, or some who love there jobs but are paid beyond blush of shame. Music is an essential ingredient for the people's lifes, but the appreciation is as low as it can get. All the best for Christmas and your new year!

[@cameronpatrickscott]

Need the old red light recording in progress...

[@davidbarnes3232]

Excellent video. You have a great talent for articulating your thoughts and ideas in a way that is informative, detailed and entertaining.

[@davidbarnes3232]

Don't you sleep

[@pedrohorta6266]

Best hour-long Andy Rant ever👌

[@MatthewSearComposer]

These type of videos are a real service to any of us working in music in these changing times. Thank you. Sincerely. 🙏 While I have a lot of skepticism about the way music education has gone, one thing I would say that is positive, is several degree courses run (in uk conservatoires) have modules specifically about marketing, social media, Patreon and instilling in students, how they have to be entrepreneurial. (I sat this module in 2021 as a returning student on a post grad course). In the mid to late 90’s. The expectations was completely different (when I was an undergraduate). It was ‘I’ve gotten into this good institute and I will work as a French horn player/harpist/composer etc once I leave.

[@boudiccamarchestorome9475]

Yeah, Andy, I'm not sure why you worry that this will annoy non-musicians. I began as a child playing violin, piano, and guitar. I played and sang briefly with garage bands. Luckily, my parents had eclectic tastes. Took music theory in college, and then came to the conclusion that I wasn't skilled enough (shades of Ian Anderson backing off the electric guitar). I then got sort of creative on my own: I was often the only woman in an all-male blue collar skilled trade and 20 years later, I had succeeded despite obstacles. I also developed a new-found appreciation in the lyrics of music, and have since discovered that great lyrics are almost harder to come by than great music.

[@eb303b]

OK, you've totally sold the wig video to me, I just wanna see it now! 🤣

[@drytool]

What an education! Priceless!

[@robertjoy4846]

Love Bill Evans music. I'm a non musician and quite uneducated on the subject, but chancing actoss an old tv programme of a Bill Evans gig started me on a journey into jazz and indeed wider music appreciation. You are my educator and i really appreciate the work you do Andy.

[@na-tusk]

Music can be experienced at many levels. The technical. The lyrical. The emotional. The cultural. You appreciate one level only.

[@stevensimons9813]

Another killer show, Andy. That Dylan guy, he’s The Rock Poet. Give his later albums a chance. He’s still got it.

[@areirving]

What a joy to listen to. Deeply felt opinions and ideas, informed by knowledge and life experience spontaneously and earnestly expressed. What a joy and privilege.

[@steverogers2635]

Absolutely brilliant video Andy! And I especially agree with the point you made about being ready to accept and enjoy different genres of music. To expand one's horizons. At least that how I understood it. It took me almost forty years to love and appreciate jazz music. Progressive rock and fusion pointed the way, but it was radio shows from my local college that really got me hooked. Now I can't imagine not having artists like John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Charlie Parker and many others in my music collection.

[@jublaim]

Enjoyed this very much. Most of your videos "are like music" to me and I'm still learning and having a great time.

[@HansGijswijt]

Yet again thoroughly enjoyed your video, Andy. Not only are you at very funny, your opinions are always crystal clear and well founded. Not a musician myself, I do however recognise the immense love for music. And our tastes are probably quite different! Very happy to have come across your channel! Keep up the good work!

[@SteveConkie-t6r]

Well, I am very glad I watched this. Andy can come across as a bit of a pub bore at times, but I almost felt like I met the real Andy today. Thank you.

[@MartinBaldock]

This is the first of your videos I've watched, and I thoroughly enjoyed it! Thankyou Andy. I'm 76 going on 26 (so I'm told by those that know me), my taste in music continues to shift and evolve. While I do still enjoy t same he stuff that first informed me that there was music beyond the taste of my parents, I still delight in bumping into something different. I've dabbled in making my own over the years but never with a band until 12yrs ago. We wrote a 35 minute suite covering the main facets of a lifespan, an audio/visual piece. Then I went on to make noises with an improvising trio who never played anything the same twice. My last band did Americana, folk,country and classic rock covers. Well, I had to find out what it was like didn't I!!! Had a bit of fun, but it became boring. Since retiring from thedayjob I've taken up the visual arts full time, painting, 3D stuff, and audio visual too. Anyhow, I like your style and am subscribed, looking forward to the wig thing

[@incognitoatunknown2702]

I drink up the Philosophy 'formerly Sunday' YT videos like a frat boy chugging beers at a kegger. Your Top Ranked videos are great fun (I do learn things from them as well) but for me, these videos hold the most value for my viewing time X the space it takes up in my brain to mull over.

[@billphelps5611]

Interesting discussion. I like the way you explain things. One thing I would like to point out on the topic of people who think if it's too fast there is no emotion. The song Shadows Of by Gong with Allan Holdsworth, (rework of Velvet Darkness) is just magic. Toward the end when the song seems to end and then it comes back gently with AH on acoustic guitar, his playing there gives me chills every single time I hear it, it's giving me chills thinking about it.....if that isn't emotion I don't know what is!

[@MaterLacrymarum]

I worked in a very competitive industry, one that took a lot of effort to stay on top of. I don't play an instrument, and have never tried. Music for me is something in which I can just listen and accept what I hear without a hint of "I could do that", or any form of competitive feeling. Every musician is better than me, and that brings me pure pleasure. I like what I like, I don't like what I don't, and that's good enough.

[@Original3523]

Really enjoyable episode, keep at it and thank you.

[@Mondgeist7777]

Even if you have just 30 fans who watch the content on your page, instagram, KZbin, or other … you have an audience! Keep at it!

[@PlguDctR-yb7mi]

I am an elementary school music teacher with a master's degree in philosophy. You are absolutely up my alley and I'm grateful for this content.

[@davidstair9657]

I am in my Home studio, in the midst of the most amazing solo in the history of mankind, my wife knocks and asks me to take out the rubbish. She does not note the tears streaming down my face, mingled with sweat… and perhaps blood. My wife does not understand. I love her, but she is not a musician, though she loves Alice in Chains. She says it is the same with her and her true crime and murder shows… that I don’t understand…

[@william6223]

She does not, cannot, and will never understand. Carry on. I understand Rock hard!😂

[@MG53v8]

@@davidstair9657 mine always shows up chatting during the best take of the day, bless her.

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

Aren't the TV shows and Alice in chains enough clues?

[@davidc.williams-swanseauk3623]

I hear you brother! A prophet is never accepted in his own land.

[@chrisbennett1243]

My girlfriend was a singer songwriter before she suffered a brain injury. During lockdown I started playing a lot of guitar and got a bit better. I wrote a song and recorded it on my phone. I played it to her in the car on Bluetooth without telling her who it was. I said what do you think of this she said it’s f…..g s..t I said do you know who it’s bye I said it’s me. Oh it’s not bad she said I naturally went for her first opinion as I knew it was honest.

[@spacechallenger5767]

This is a really good one Andy !🙌🏿

[@harryconner1030]

interesting comments on authenticity. This has always been fascinating to me.

[@simonmccafferty]

Andy, well said! I so needed to hear someone else express all that so eloquently. From 50 minutes on I was cheering you on and clapping, thank you for making me shriek in appreciation. I think I enjoyed this more than any of your other videos so far.

[@tiagojnrm]

You're such an amazing speaker, Andy. Love love love your posts. Great hair, btw.

[@Stonloy]

Profound video Andy, consider me a new subscriber from the last 25 minutes alone

[@shawndowntown]

THANK YOU! In point number one you have articulated something I have only been able to feel for years. There are levels of quality in art and the ability to understand and discern the why and what of those levels is imperative in allowing art to move forward. I don't agree with everything you say all the time but man, you absolutely hit the nail on the head with this video.

[@riffmondo9733]

Great one Andy. I concur.

[@BeatKasterG]

Not just non-musicians getting these things wrong Andy!

[@garyfontanini9646]

Thanks Andy, great video, I'm off to watch ten greatest wigs, let's face it it's so much more important than understanding the philosophy of music, WIGS it's what we need. Also biscuits and crisps..oh you've done them.

[@deadphishcheesespread]

The Grateful Dead released the song Unbroken Chain in 1974 but didn't play it live for 21 years. The audience went nuts when they busted it out in Philadelphia, at The Spectrum in 1995. Holding such a great song back for 21 years must have been challenging, but it was incredible when they finally played it live.

[@dancyprus6863]

I enjoyed this, thank you for sharing 😊

[@originalhgc]

Lovely talk today, Sensei. I am enlightened again.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@WordsRuinMusic]

I had this video playing while doing yoga

[@georgivaramezov9939]

Totally agree! Especially number one! I'm a musician and I share these points of view!💞

[@trippknotic]

I’m definitely up for the wigs video😂

[@robertlewis8024]

Count me in!

[@kneeboarderndevon]

Obviously just come here to request the wig video! 😂 Great video Andy, thought provoking as always

[@bebopisthetruth]

Wonderful video, Andy. I love the parts about listeners not having the skill to appreciate some music and how you have to come back later to perhaps hear more. I’m currently doing this with jazz piano trios, which, as a horn player, sounded to me like nothing more than a rhythm section 😊. Regarding the arc of genres, from novel to popular to pastiche: I see this with rock, blues, so-called, classical, even, dearest to my heart, jazz, but how do you account for American country music? It started small, like blues, folk, jazz, and rock, became a huge commercial juggernaut, like rock, but rock fell away and country is still a commercial success with mainstream popularity? How long can this go on? And speaking of authenticity, don’t get me started with country music….

[@MrSatampra]

The typical way we determine whether something is good or not is by comparing it to what we have heard before. This is how we know how to judge something. But if the thing is truly new and original, we have nothing to compare it to and therefore, we don't really know how to judge it.

[@erikheddergott5514]

That is were we Non-Musicians can Risk ourselves. From 1979 to about 1984 we had “New Wave”. Pop and Rock that used Approaches that went against the Grain of what was done in Pop and matured Hyphon-Rock. We didn’t now whether that Stuff or these Musicians would last longer than 5 to 6 Years. But the BOF‘s of Flower Power Pop and Hippie Rock usually didn‘ get it. They neither got Prince nor Talking Heads in their first 5 to 6 Years. They were considered to be Neon Colored Anti-Authentic Plastic Producers. But many Non Musicians were the Reason why this New Wavers had Gigs. To take it to the Extreme: It‘s not Musicians who define good Pop, its 12 to 21 Year old „Girls“. It‘s not Musicians who defined good Rock, it was 15 to 25 Years old „Boys“!

[@sanityclause-r8z]

I'm not saying this one went on a bit Andy, but the ad breaks came as a blessed relief at times, and there were quite a few. I'll definitely be there for your wigs video though!

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Philosophy Saturday videos are supposed to go on too long. Next week I might do a video that is really too long as an experiment...that is a great idea. It will be called 'How Long is Too Long'

[@cameronpatrickscott]

Uve got a football stadiums worth of mates Andy, and i'm one of em.

[@joannalewis5279]

Your best video by far

[@JoachimToft]

Food for thought, as always. Great work Andy!

[@paulkenyon3372]

Brilliant vid Andy 👍 oh you know I want a wigs vid 💯 Sincere regrets, I was two of the empty seats for your recent gig, soooo gutted I didn't get there, nought to do with Dylan tho. So a person can be clever enough to understand football whilst not being clever enough to appreciate Holdsworth.... and ...vice versa? Theo Von? Whatcha looking for over there? 😁 Will you be bringing any of his type of subject over here? Conspiracy Thursdays? ...Silver plaque! Spot on with the educated guess about small pots for bonsai 👍 Wigs! Wigs! Wigs!

[@georgeeskiadis5637]

This was a great philosophy Saturday episode, and along with the weekly ones they're my favourites. A lot of valid points given on this video that are nothing but plain facts. Especially regarding the harsh reality that many creative people have to face when they step outside their friendly fanbase and are dropped into the competitive side of the art world.

[@javiervalles9782]

This is so refreshing. A few biases that I hadn’t realized were common and do agree with you on. I’m usually the only cynic in the room about this stuff, though

[@jerrypotente872]

Thanks again Andy, based on my respect for your musical ears, I’ve been checking out Bill Evans and quite liking what I’m hearing got to add him to one of my favorite jazz pianist! I think it’s very valuable that you share your sanguine and realistic thoughts on how to make it in the music business and not delude yourself in our modern world. I think a lot of what the gatekeeper and the media cell has important music as well as other arts are just a lot of rubbish , but flying below the radar not approved by the power brokers is great new music great new books great new film and TV and great new visual art. And perhaps 2/3 of the people in the world to a truly talented and creative and perhaps you were never really gonna get recognized like you say the ones who are perceptive and bright like you will channel the new media to get their voices out to the world whatever their voices are OK keep up the good work and perhaps based on my 30 years of writing songs with a brilliant brill building tunesmith Lou I cited before in my messages. I might one day in a. ‘ Long distance runaround.’ aspiration actually get to talk to you on one of your podcasts about my 40 years in the music business and my never-ending quest to succeed with my visual art and my music don’t give up the ship till the fat lady sings.! all right brother we’re all rooting for you. You’re gonna be bigger than Beato soon and keep being a teacher and a kind heart and a smart ass. We love you here in America I mean fans oh yeah, you mention passing the soccer ball to Gerard it was quite nice of you to think of me as my birth name is Gerard Potente ha ha ha, ha lol cheers

[@pjjmsn]

I agree with what you said about Bill Evans, Andy, that there is so much information in his music that that can make it hard to listen to. In the same vein, I have had experiences where I shut it off because it was too emotional for me at the time, in a melancholy way. But things have shifted for me and now I can listen to it without such an aversive reaction.

[@russjenkins5330]

Brilliant video Andy! Always a treat!

[@calum54]

Well, all I’ve got to say is that Rick Beato thinks that Jeff Beck is a virtuoso. So there. This is one of the best ones you’ve done Andy. thanks very much.

[@MrStrawberry86]

A video where andy talks about nothing and it's all contentious I bloody live for this stuff at the moment let's go!!!!

[@caramanico1]

Great channel Andy. When I analyze my own taste, the majority of the time what I enjoy is music that generally strikes a good balance between technical ability and songwriting. Of course The Beatles and Led Zep are two prime examples. Then throw in ELP, Yes, Renaissance, UK Steely Dan, Deep Purple, King Crimson, Mostly Autumn, PInk Floyd, Queen, The Who, etc.. But of course I do love me some ZZ Top at high volume with the windows down. Or Kraftwerk if I'm just in that specific mood at the moment.

[@annonimouse170]

At the risk of sounding sycophantic I love your videos. I always learn something.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Thank you

[@annonimouse170]

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer no, thank you. I'm 56 and have played bass since being a teenager, yet you still teach me something new. I've always taken the view, not just regarding music but a whole gamut of things, that once I stop learning I might as well be dead.

[@auroraromano7404]

Very profound. And I also keep coming to hear you slag on Americana and David gilmour

[@frankthorne11]

Thank you.

[@marshlanderdumarais264]

Lots of food for thought. Cheers!

[@Chiller11]

Pretty interesting episode. I spent the bulk of my twenties mastering a skill other than music. I believe I got pretty good at it. I also picked up a classical guitar and learned a little bit about that genre because I loved listening to excellent guitarists and found that learning to play it a bit was a healthy correction to the single minded efforts I put into my professional pursuits. I’ve played guitar off and on, in different forms since then though I haven’t become very proficient at it. For the last 8 to ten years or so I’ve been learning jazz standards and the rudiments of improvisation though I’m still not a very proficient guitarist. I’m no longer able to practice my profession so I have a little more time to spend on music. I do believe that, though I haven’t become a very good guitarist, I am better able to discern a good guitarist. Because I know a little music theory, I better understand what true musicians are communicating. That’s why I like this channel. I’m not going to formally study music but channels like this do broaden and deepen my limited ability to understand the art form.

[@NealMurfitt]

Talking about fast playing, that banjo solo in Electric Sighs reduces me to tears every time. So much feeling.

[@michaelantonyaustin]

My partner is a non-musician but lives and loves music. We’ve been together for almost 25 years through thick and thin (as a working musician there have been plenty of ‘thin’ times), because she is always honest. She’ll tell be quite openly, honestly and bluntly if she thinks I’ve delivered a below par performance or written a shit song… maybe it’s because she’s German, but that’s why I love her! 😅

[@Joethedrummer]

Virtuosity is the tone of pure derision in your voice when you said "Jane Macdonald" 😂😂😂. Easily worth the hour and a half of life I lost listening to this. Excellent.

[@dpaulm]

Bravo, Andy! From a big fan in Alberta, Canada. Love your content!

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Thanks for watching!

[@mikemonday4355]

Subscribed. I can take a hint. Very good stuff sir.

[@percyrd1]

You basically spent an hour slagging off the misses - and I loved it.

[@Allgoodbookstores]

I’m a drummer(used to be)& love the drums on Slint’s Spiderland, as much as some other of my favourites. It’s non technical & blows my mind…

[@andrewmacardle9872]

That was a wonderful video.

[@pippip8744]

Non musician, but to your first point. I saw a band about 15 years ago at a businesses Christmas party. The band were outstanding and getting paid a lot to be there, yet it didn't make much impression upon mist of the captive audience who would have preferred a disco. I chatted to some of the musicians during the interval, but the only one I remember the name of was Aaron Liddard who used to show up on TV playing sax for Amy Winehouse. The drummer had been brought in as a last minute sub, but you'd never have known. Unless like me you were told. Towards the end of the show, a gentleman sat next to me said 'I've been playing guitar for over thirty years and I'm very good, but I've been watching the lad on the stage over there who looks like Harry Potter all night and I simply can't do what he is doing tonight AND making it look bloody easy.' It was a bit sad that the majority of people there had no idea what their employer had paid for. Highly skilled musicians who could play anything you threw at them. You are right, even as a non musician, there is a difference. the Gent who spoke to me got it. He knew his skills, which would sound amazing to his auntie Susan, were just parlour tricks compared to that young lad, who didn't look a day over 19.

[@pjjmsn]

I like the idea that the purpose of great music is to teach the listener, or evolve the listener in a spiritual way. I think Mclaughlin's Guru, Sri Chinmoy, stated that music can bring you to enlightenment. And it was in that spirit that I would listen to every note of Mclaughlin and his cohorts that I could get my hands on during my formative years. I drifted away from that idea later, as I questioned the meaning of things, but I have since returned to it.

[@JDWDMC]

Allan Holdsworth. Bill Bruford's Master Strokes Anthology has some of the most emotional content ever played on guitar. That album remains fresh and important to me in a way very few other albums do and a lot of it, despite me being a drummer, is down to Allan Holdsworth's massive contribution to this body of work. All the musos on it are fantastic. "Fainting in Coils" is one of my favourite pieces ever. But then many people disagree, vehemently, with me, including my wife. Good video though, mate!

[@rabbitisrich]

We're dealing in multitudes. Most of my music heroes aren't virtuosic. Most of them, I am sure, could be made to look pretty foolish in a session setting. Their talent lies in songwriting, their ear for music, and their ability to communicate something. I greatly admire virtuosic playing, and in the world of classical music and jazz, which I love as well, it's commonplace. But if someone can make magic out of a few chords that's just as remarkable. We're comparing apples with pears with oranges. We don't have to decide. We can enjoy it all. I also love your comment about the world needing great listeners. The same can be said of great readers. Less than 4 per cent of books sold are 'serious fiction' or literary. Most people just read pap.

[@happy2oblige]

Brilliant. Thankyou.

[@aminahmed2220]

Awesome video have a great weekend Andy ❤😊

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Thanks for the visit

[@bshymko1]

You seem to be an interesting fellow, Andy. Subbed, from small-town rural Canada.

[@boudiccamarchestorome9475]

Funny bit about John Paul Jones' wig. If Andy is highlighting his enviable hair, he scores on that one.

[@Alex-nm7qx]

Excellent talk, Andy - One of your best. Interesting that you mentioned Shawn Lane. I always refer to him as "The greatest guitarist nobody talks about" - a true genius who left us WAY too soon due to health problems. He worshiped Allan Holdsworth. Every time I hear Buckethead, I hear a little bit of Shawn Lane in there. Your observation about art weaving the objective and subjective together was brilliant as well. Bravo. +1 for a top ten wigs video.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Lenny Breau is without doubt the guitar genius that nobody talks about, but Lane was incredible too, and super emotional as well

[@Alex-nm7qx]

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Ahh - The great Lenny Breau indeed. It's interesting that you just made the Bill Evans video because Lenny Breau spent many years studying Bill's work - maybe that's one of the reasons you connect with him. I shall see you back at The Parthenon.

[@AndyLeMaitre]

Tell you what Andy, you REALLY made me think!

[@erikheddergott5514]

Dennis Chambers who was a Biggie in the Studioszene of the early 1980ties actively searched for Jobs in the Jazzrock Fusion Szene because he feared already back then that the Time of real Drumming in the Studios will vanish. And that he might get replaced by the „Machines“. So he got himself a Job with John Scofield, after that he went to John Mc Laughlin and returned to Funk mainly for Maceo Parker. He often played in CAB and Mike Stern. As said: He already saw this 40 Years Ago.

[@johannhauffman323]

Great video Andy ! Very interesting.

[@tvm3488]

great lecture 😊

[@JunkerOnDrums]

Thank you for many good points :D I did not know Michael Bubble is using autotune. Some of his arragnements are great, and if you want to hear a pale Frank Sinatra live - imposible since Sinatra is dead - that's and option. Poor listeners must be educated to be good listeners :D P.S: Love Bill Evans!

[@jpmwright]

Great video. I honestly think it might be your best. Your rant about soccer had me in stiches 😂 I have exactly the same feeling as you. I would rather be listening to music in primary school than watching a bunch of plonkers kicking a ball around. Music was casual for everyone but I took it seriously. Very good points, maybe time to write a book...... But please narrate the audio book.

[@erikheddergott5514]

Chuck Berry wrote his own Songs. He started the Rock Revolution that made the Singer-Songwriter Guitarplayer the Archetype of the Rock Auteur, surely more than Eddie Cochran. Before him the Stars of Rock‘n‘Roll were Singers, Piano Players and Tenor Sax Players.

[@AndyEdwardsDrummer]

Yes you are right, as did Ray Charles. Ike Turner etc,

[@gregpusczek4473]

brilliant

[@lindajennings7375]

Thanks for mentioning Allan Holdsworth I was lucky enough to meet him after a gig in 1989

[@lindajennings7375]

Check out Allan's solo on Hazard Profile (Soft Machine) live at Montreux 1974

[@lindajennings7375]

But Allan's tune Land Of The Bag Snake is another crazy great tune. His face on the performance shows how much emotion he is exuding. Ridiculous playing sooooo good

[@aaronhayman8558]

I agree... and the thing about virtuoso musicians in rock bands rings especially true for me. Over the years, I've heard so much talk from folks about who they consider the greatest musicians, and when they're talking about such things, they usually mean the most skilled musicians. They'll typically mention well-known rock players without understanding that what makes these folks great has far more to do with their artistic vision than with their raw skill as a players. As you said, musicians with the greatest level of skill are the ones who may not be in some famous band, who have created well known, signature parts but are the type of players who can sight read anything, in any style and come up with a part (which may not be all that memorable, but works for the piece of music they're working on) on the spot. By the same token, I've heard a lot of folks talk about musicians that they know who are capable of playing any piece of music, and they wonder why these people aren't famous. They don't realize that every town has players who are probably far more accomplished, at least as far a skill goes, than the musicians in their favorite bands, but these folks don't necissarily have the artistic vision to create anything memorable.... They are great craftsmen, but don't rate as artists. So many people don't seem to have much understanding of creativity, and seem to assume that songs just come out of nowhere, and that the really important part is simply the skills needed to play them...

[@aaronhayman8558]

The other thing that I would say about music that you didn't seem to touch on is that it's not true that music is somehow a universal thing. Sure, some artists are more broadly appreciated, like the Beatles and Bach, but play that music for a person from a nomadic tribe in Africa with little exposure to Western culture and they likely have no refernce point in which to appreciate it from. It would be incomprehensible to them, just like lots of music is to lots of people. If they were to bother learning something about the music though, so that they understand basic things about how it was made and it's cultural context, they may end up gaining the tools need to appreciate it...

[@PeterWasted]

I'm sure Richie Blackmore will be high on the list of Iconic Wig wearers. This video is exactly why I subscribe and support you on Patreon. I'm not totally sold on your top two points, but then, I'm not a musician. I do find "fast" playing can often be distracting from the apparent intent of the music. It doesn't mean I can't appreciate the skill involved and I fully accept that it works for the musicians involved. My position though, as a listener IS equally valid. Perhaps the real issue is how non-musicians voice their opinions. Perhaps, "not to my taste" and, "I can't get emotionally engaged" are better descriptors but the whole of the English speaking world is set up as if our personal opinions are somehow superior to those of others. May I suggest Steven Wilson's Drive Home as a good gateway song for understanding how fast playing can be emotional?

[@erikmaronde2244]

I was well aware that I was the least skilled bass player around in my first bands. Nevertheless I got and kept the job until the point where I quit for personal, non-musical reasons. I also quit because I realized that I will never be good enough to be a professional and make a living from playing music. Thankfully. It was hard enough to get ahead in my business area (research in biology/ medicine). 😎🎶🤷🖖

[@alloutofbubblegum9223]

Talking of non musicians perspective, I remember talking to a colleague when I started a new job. When I mentioned I played guitar in a band, she responded with “you should meet my other half, he’s really good at Guitar Hero”!??? I just couldn’t find the words to continue the conversation.

[@exploringthemusicaluniverse]

Musicians reactions are usually the most informative.