WE MADE HIM A DIY EBIKE AND IT RIPS!!!

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andy kirby

andy kirby

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@Louis-lu5wh
@Louis-lu5wh 3 жыл бұрын
What battery
@3dkiller
@3dkiller 4 жыл бұрын
I love how crispy clear your camera films... we need more of these conversion kit video's !.
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
There will be more. My mate steve is going to be putting more videos up soon👍
@OrlandoStreets
@OrlandoStreets 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see this 500w eBike conv kit on your store.
@neekodevinchi
@neekodevinchi 4 жыл бұрын
Epicness Andy. Two lads cruising on home built ebikes. You cant say more than that. You've got me thinking about busting out my hardtail ebike. Spread the word "hub motored hardtail ebikes can fly like the wind!!!" Keep up the vids and cant wait for the follow up.
@Bigbob_82
@Bigbob_82 4 жыл бұрын
Andy, Get your self a riv nut gun kit, cheap off Amazon. Then you can mount battery correctly, I've used them to mount battery when bottle mount doesnt line up building ebikes 👍
@yodab.at1746
@yodab.at1746 4 жыл бұрын
If that's a mxus 500w kit, I really like them. Motor is well built, I peak mine at around 1500w with 26-30amp 48v controller. Mines on a 20" wheel, bit loony, around 32mph on the flat. Was a bit of a wheelie monster, threw me off a couple of times at traffic lights.... Comedy show lol
@MrGrumpyKat430
@MrGrumpyKat430 4 жыл бұрын
love that gonna do that now😂✌🏼
@DigBipper188
@DigBipper188 4 жыл бұрын
I've got one of those Voilamart 500w DD hub motors. That thing with gets a proper crank on laced onto a 26" rim. I've done a couple of top speed pulls with some 26x1.5 tires on and it does about 39 mph. IT takes a pretty decent hill to do it though lmao
@0141star
@0141star 4 жыл бұрын
@@DigBipper188 39 mph downhill or not is pretty respectable sir im getting 40mph on 24 in rear x3 tyre now using a fat tire on the back and getting 48mph cant wait to try a 26 wheel
@DigBipper188
@DigBipper188 4 жыл бұрын
@@0141star Y'ain't kidding. Gets a little sketchy though going over bumps because of how much lighter the bike is compared to a standard motorbike... plus the lack of rear suspension probably doesn't help at all lol
@yodab.at1746
@yodab.at1746 4 жыл бұрын
@@DigBipper188 32mph is as fast as I want to go on a 20" wheel folding rigid bike. I did hit a pot hole fast, took the handle bars out of my hands and cracked the front rim. But I love the torque I get from a small wheel. And the the fact it's a little insane folder 😁
@CanonFirefly
@CanonFirefly 4 жыл бұрын
You can get adapter mounts for batteries when the bottle holder mounts are too low.
@davidray4128
@davidray4128 4 жыл бұрын
Whats with the tie wrap? Drill a hole and use rivnuts.
@TKomoski
@TKomoski 4 жыл бұрын
I would just reverse the battery and put it between the front tire and the frame
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 4 жыл бұрын
Rivnuts are awesome I use them regularly. If it's carbon fiber or fiberglass I use aviation nut plates as they have much more surface area grabbing the material...
@whoaitstiger
@whoaitstiger 4 жыл бұрын
Drilling weakens the frame significantly. Personally I'd rather use a heavy duty cable tie than take the risk especially on a cheaper hardtail like that.
@davidray4128
@davidray4128 4 жыл бұрын
@@whoaitstiger Drilling a small hole for a rivnut won't cause frame to fail. Tie wraps are a temporary solution.
@gavinwilkinson3722
@gavinwilkinson3722 4 жыл бұрын
I cant find this kit on your site, whats the link please? As would like to do a 500 watt kit with the 52v 17AH with the controller built it, just like on this video :-)
@paulatradese1110
@paulatradese1110 4 жыл бұрын
I am thinking about getting the 250w from cloudsto and fitting it to a old school MTB ATB (Raliegh Lizard) I will be using it soley for road use. Is this wise and is there aftermarket support for fitting the kit.
@olivernice8291
@olivernice8291 4 жыл бұрын
Work in a bike shop and it's been manic. Love your videos and learnt a lot from you as I built my own ebike. Mxus 3kturbo, 80v 150amp controller. Goes like stink!
@caveyak
@caveyak 4 жыл бұрын
Well done. The torque seems quite nice with that build. How is the power when tackling rather steep inclines?
@ronniewizzo
@ronniewizzo 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, what are your thoughts on the 2 in 1 hub motors ? Cant seem to find much feedback on them, is it better to have a seperate controller so you can try different types and change one if it fails without all the wheel dramas?
@austieoutdoors9763
@austieoutdoors9763 2 жыл бұрын
hey andy how much is it for the full kit mate thinking of getting one m7byf
@bereal1251
@bereal1251 4 жыл бұрын
Where you pick up that speed controller? I'm looking for one like it I can only find the box controller..
@vickipps6821
@vickipps6821 3 жыл бұрын
What voltage ⚡is your battery and Amp hours
@zaza967729
@zaza967729 4 жыл бұрын
hi, when is the kit going to be on the site? i am looking to buy one, but without knowing when it will be on it is kinda hard to wait (im french, so please forgive my poor english :)
@Don1atUTube
@Don1atUTube 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andy, How do you go about using hydraulic brakes with the cable brakes supplied with kits? Cheers. Mike
@BrummiePrepper
@BrummiePrepper 4 жыл бұрын
just what I need with that controller/battery mount combo. looks a lot cleaner more like a proper e bike than a kit . but cant find it on website tho
@grady1982
@grady1982 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I'd really like this kit its nice and clean thanks to the controller being in the mounts when will this be available?
@stevemccreadie818
@stevemccreadie818 4 жыл бұрын
Please add the kit on this video so we all can build one with price too been looking for a while but wanted to see it in action first, you have now done that 🤔😜😂
@BK42Cycles
@BK42Cycles 4 жыл бұрын
It goes really fast! Very nice! Well done
@ShadowRifft
@ShadowRifft 4 жыл бұрын
looks like a good sweetspot bike, minimal yet sufficient motor with trail treads and front suspension. Pedaling a bit on cruise and startups will go a long way to get more distance out of a charge. Regen braking too if ya got it!👍👌😎
@michaelsprinzeles4022
@michaelsprinzeles4022 4 жыл бұрын
Cool project. Unimportant note because it's not usable on the hub motor wheel but that disc rotor probably is removable. I have a similar rotor that requires a tool similar to a freewheel remover. Ride on & enjoy;)
@fattymctavish
@fattymctavish 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice kit. The hub motor is actually pretty smart looking. Be interested to see how much the kit sells for. Does it have to have the display ? Would it function without a display ?
@Louis-lu5wh
@Louis-lu5wh 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but you can’t monitor your battery and need to use your phone an an app to see speed
@landonferguson7282
@landonferguson7282 4 жыл бұрын
Mine ebike kit has almost the same exact motor. The only main difference is the voltage. Can't wait till the bike is ready to ride.
@nathenc1
@nathenc1 4 жыл бұрын
ordered the 1500W kit got the kit just waiting on the battery shouldn't be long, going to make a video on it soon once it arrives be flying about cant wait
@florinb4668
@florinb4668 4 жыл бұрын
Does someone know exactly what motor and battery they use?and the controller is inside the battery?
@Mochi_93
@Mochi_93 4 жыл бұрын
Yo I have a question and if anyone knows the answer it would be greatly appreciated! I have a rear hub motor that peaks 2000W but it doesn’t wheelie like this 500W bike. I’m running a 40A 48V controller with a 40A 48V bms battery, but I think the controller might be limiting the torque? I heard somewhere that high instant power draw is bad for the battery but it would be cool to do wheelies like that, is it my controller? The power seems to gradually ramp up from standstill.
@darexg
@darexg 4 жыл бұрын
Geared motors have a lot higher starting torque. You can try to upgrade controller or do a shunt mod.
@ixxolos
@ixxolos 4 жыл бұрын
I'd be adding a torque arm to the motor for some added security if it were me. Sweet build though Kudos. I see you stock the Phaserunner from Grin Tech, Good Man! They offer some seriously great parts. Are you going to be stocking there newer Phaserunner L10 and the Baserunner L10 controllers at all?
@whoaitstiger
@whoaitstiger 4 жыл бұрын
I have two 500W Bafang hub motors in a couple of fat bikes and I wonder how much higher you can push these things, I'm already running them at 750+ on the controller the bikes came with.
@vickipps6821
@vickipps6821 3 жыл бұрын
You need to drill the frame and use rivnuts to position that battery bracket you might have to change the front ring gear sprocket to about a 42 tooth or you won't keep up with the motor if you have peddle assist
@planetpayney
@planetpayney 4 жыл бұрын
Nice 1 Andy another Great video👌 and the music 🎶 keep up the good work 👍
@teejmskima
@teejmskima 4 жыл бұрын
What's the topspeed ,voltage of that diy bike?
@calibeats
@calibeats 4 жыл бұрын
i got a bottle cage extender mounty for mine it worked fine get that lad :D
@darkness8832
@darkness8832 2 жыл бұрын
Can it work with a 21 speed rear derailleur
@chrisinfpv9423
@chrisinfpv9423 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with that battery. I mounted it to the top crossbar and it looks sweet, like a petrol tank.
@hitmanh86
@hitmanh86 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mind if I ask how you mounted it to the top bar without the bottle mounts? Battery is too big on mine so I'm going to have to do the same and I'm thinking of the best way to mount it. Cheers
@ashpunting
@ashpunting 2 жыл бұрын
look at Steve's little face he's so happy 😅😊
@ozziebell4712
@ozziebell4712 4 жыл бұрын
The 500 isn’t on your website
@0141star
@0141star 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking it seems to have rhe conroller in the battery which is ideal for me i can't see this model anywhere perhaps hell post a link when he's updated site ??
@racerx2095
@racerx2095 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the was a fast build.Good job👍👍💯😁
@TheJ4tg
@TheJ4tg 4 жыл бұрын
In with the DnB drumline
@trailclarkmtb9013
@trailclarkmtb9013 4 жыл бұрын
The disk rota looks like it's a centre lock disk you can get it off but you need a bottom bracket spanner. So the disk won't go onto the hub motor any way
@diyelectricbiker9361
@diyelectricbiker9361 4 жыл бұрын
Cool how does it compare to BBS02?
@crafter170
@crafter170 3 жыл бұрын
Controller built into the mount .I like that .Nice video lads .Anybody know what is the best screw on freewheel out there .Thanks.
@ronniewizzo
@ronniewizzo 4 жыл бұрын
You've got me so into electric bikes I think I'm gona do a project so may shout for a little advice , also those amen drums are saucy mate I love the old amen breaks Thanks again for sharing the bike vids and all the hard graft you put towards it , I feel half confident on starting a project due to you reli mate and I have no experience with mtb but I have built a few pitbikes so how hard can it be 😂😝
@mikecoking
@mikecoking 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, any news on when this kit might be available on your site?
@Dave64track
@Dave64track 4 жыл бұрын
That ebike looks great nice piece of kit that should have a good range with that battery as well.
@luqmansavage9681
@luqmansavage9681 4 жыл бұрын
Do all display come with mph speedometer or km/h also plz let me know
@TKomoski
@TKomoski 4 жыл бұрын
Mph or Kph is selectable in the display setup
@stevencowles8419
@stevencowles8419 4 жыл бұрын
Like the look of the motor, quite small and discrete but still works well
@davidmorgan4055
@davidmorgan4055 4 жыл бұрын
I have a ebike it's a a standard Bosch active line motor on it can I do anything to alter the speed up on it
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
Mmm probably not really, they can’t handle a lot of power.
@davidmorgan4055
@davidmorgan4055 4 жыл бұрын
andy kirby I’ve seen a chip that is out but it costs around a hundred pounds I’m not convinced tho
@jonneilsmyth9107
@jonneilsmyth9107 2 жыл бұрын
great to see andy atlast that the 500w motors come in 160mm diameter on a slim wheel version as the other motors that need restricted can be quite ugly and the size of a dinner plate not to mention heave well done
@acplguk
@acplguk 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing! I thought it was one of the KirbEbike kits, because of the display
@jc_beats_
@jc_beats_ 4 жыл бұрын
How much is that kit
@florinb4668
@florinb4668 4 жыл бұрын
@TJ Thunder he has so many,you know exactly which one is?
@yodab.at1746
@yodab.at1746 4 жыл бұрын
Great music as always too!
@thomaswersonst28
@thomaswersonst28 4 жыл бұрын
So I can recommend the Kelly KLS7212S controller for something like that is very small and does not cost much in comparison and you can adjust everything and the motor is almost silent 😉😎 Oh well and the tire in the back you have the wrong thing on it ☺ have a look running direction 😉😊🙋‍♂️
@racepnd
@racepnd 3 жыл бұрын
Can you guys still get bike parts? Had to order two months ago to get parts this week.
@JohnnysCafe_
@JohnnysCafe_ 4 жыл бұрын
Are Safety helmets not compulsory in the UK ?
@TheUberdude187
@TheUberdude187 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, there recommended but not compulsory.
@martinregan6608
@martinregan6608 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, loving the video's, thanks. Would be interested in buying the full setup if possible but would like to know if you could recommend a cheapish bike I could buy somewhere that would ensure everything fits okay? I don't really have any experience with bikes but am keen to dedicate some time to making one myself :). All in all I would like to try and stay as low below £1500 as possible. Thanks
@CBFREE
@CBFREE 4 жыл бұрын
Nice bike conversion as always. My small observation is as he can’t pump up the rear suspension it being a hard tail, he looks like he might need shorter cranks. If he hits a bump with the way it is might be nasty.
@toriancoosemans1210
@toriancoosemans1210 3 жыл бұрын
You could use rivnuts to hold the battery
@NanoDex
@NanoDex 4 жыл бұрын
FYI the rear disk IS removable its a shimano cassette tool type they call 'centerlock' you can get centerlock or 6 hole disks for bikes. DIY always leads to a lesson or two!
@hindesite
@hindesite 4 жыл бұрын
What was the kit? No links and it isn't on the store, can anyone ID it? Assume is geared hub.
@xxxenricop
@xxxenricop 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be easier to use a 2" by 10" piece of alluminium to do a bracket that bolts on the pre drilled bottle holder holes and with a couple of mounting points further up. I mean rather than the extra wires and the upside down battery...
@THEPAINOFITALL
@THEPAINOFITALL 4 жыл бұрын
Love this build... Scared to look at price
@sharpshooter147
@sharpshooter147 4 жыл бұрын
build it up battery last then enjoy till u have more money and build again I'm going for front back and mid drive motors building a big shed 1st /workshop just go 3 batterys 3 speeds controllers
@andrewdelvard
@andrewdelvard 4 жыл бұрын
That looks so much fun.
@stuartbould5226
@stuartbould5226 4 жыл бұрын
Can you put a link to this kit please? Thankyou.
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
It’ll be online next week.
@stuartbould5226
@stuartbould5226 4 жыл бұрын
Any update on when this kit is being added mate?
@MTBFreeks
@MTBFreeks 4 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you drill the frame and put a bottle cage nut above the second ones and the battery would fit?
@thatguyukno1000
@thatguyukno1000 4 жыл бұрын
first on a kirby video feels like such a win
@sdewaard
@sdewaard 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a 116610LN on your wrist? Sweet!
@mick2d2
@mick2d2 4 жыл бұрын
Seems his use is more like an "E-motorbike" (not saying there's anything wrong with that), just maybe more for people that like ripping around everywhere (as if on a motorbike), rather than cycling.
@sharkmentality9717
@sharkmentality9717 4 жыл бұрын
Front hub motors with torque arms are safe and allow rear Rohloff speed hubs. 14 gears to pedal at any engine speed. That's an ebike. That's pedal assist. That's an easy conversion kit.
@donolinger6904
@donolinger6904 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharkmentality9717 - I hear front hub motors are safe up to 15 mph. Beyond that I've heard that wheelspin causes many people to get hurt because skids are harder to control when it is the front tire sliding.
@donolinger6904
@donolinger6904 4 жыл бұрын
@@sharkmentality9717 - I hear front hub motors are safe up to 15 mph. Beyond that I've heard that wheelspin causes many people to get hurt because skids are harder to control when it is the front tire sliding.
@hindesite
@hindesite 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the really low seat makes me think probably new to riding bikes. This might not end well...
@samrawlings2764
@samrawlings2764 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what kit this is please?
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
It’ll be on our website soon www.cloudsto.com/ebikes
@samrawlings2764
@samrawlings2764 4 жыл бұрын
@@andykirby thank you
@GaryC203
@GaryC203 4 жыл бұрын
Hay Andy cool DIY Ebike can`t wait to see more on it. what`s going on with the shed come workshop why have took all your stuff out ?
@MTBFreeks
@MTBFreeks 4 жыл бұрын
that disk is removable there is a tool that takes that ring off and the brake is a spline that slides onto the wheel...
@wackedoutdude
@wackedoutdude 2 жыл бұрын
That brake rotor is removable. It uses a shimano centerlock. Still wont fit a bolt on design though.
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 4 жыл бұрын
When you put on those gloves on...🤣 Clean looking E-Bike, Is that a Bufang 500w hub motor? I would use rivnuts or aviation nut plates for the battery mount. But hey whatever you have on hand works too if you're too excited to wait, been there... lol Good stuff as always Andy, much love and respect from NorCal USA
@FarmerFpv
@FarmerFpv 4 жыл бұрын
Ah never mind, I think that's the KT 48V 500W Hailong controller, I'm guessing the motor is from KT as well?
@tonysummers2334
@tonysummers2334 4 жыл бұрын
As ozzi Bell says The 500 isn’t on your website LINK PLEASE ANDY
@kalimahmed2186
@kalimahmed2186 4 жыл бұрын
Please review the kugo Kirin m4
@boyced
@boyced 4 жыл бұрын
is this kit on your site?
@ryantabberer
@ryantabberer 4 жыл бұрын
How is a 500 that quick!? I just finished building a 1200 watt and from the video it looks like this one would keep up with it.
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a geared motor👍
@joohop
@joohop 4 жыл бұрын
Nice Build Lads
@PEMBYSGAMINGWORLD
@PEMBYSGAMINGWORLD 4 жыл бұрын
Best companies in the UK for e-bike motors, especially mid drives?
@alexl5363
@alexl5363 4 жыл бұрын
The rear tyer looks like it may be on backwards. Tred will where down rather quickly that way.
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted, we didn’t think anyone would notice😂 couldn’t be bothered to turn it around as we were pushed for time on this video. It’s sorted now.
@mrbagins3774
@mrbagins3774 4 жыл бұрын
Are these available yet?????
@gregstafford2155
@gregstafford2155 4 жыл бұрын
Get a phrase runner on to it and do field weakening for more speed👍
@HandyC
@HandyC 4 жыл бұрын
Ever thought of doing an ultra stealth version? Like front and rear (twin) small hub motors and an over volted battery pack in a rucksack, quick connect cables between your nuts type of affair? 😳🧐🤓😈
@donolinger6904
@donolinger6904 4 жыл бұрын
- Do you like roasted nuts?
@Chobaca
@Chobaca 4 жыл бұрын
Bafang bbs02 might have been an easier fit.
@MASTERZANUFF
@MASTERZANUFF 4 жыл бұрын
How do you secure the batteries in the stealth bomber type frame kit
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
You make them so big that it’s a tight fit😂
@petersfoxvideos
@petersfoxvideos 4 жыл бұрын
Love the jungle track, would love to remix it.
@Dint0
@Dint0 4 жыл бұрын
change the tyre man there are much faster tyres for the road check out the G-One All Round 2.25, or even a 2.8 if the frame allows sure theyd be much more fun
@wreckitralph2037
@wreckitralph2037 4 жыл бұрын
How do I return/get a refund?? ill send pics that everything is stock and from your site.
@KING_OF_FARTS
@KING_OF_FARTS 4 жыл бұрын
Put some fins around the motor, dissipates heat twice as fast.
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
There’s literally no heat build up at all, it’s a geared motor.
@KING_OF_FARTS
@KING_OF_FARTS 4 жыл бұрын
@@andykirby oh ok gotcha.
@KING_OF_FARTS
@KING_OF_FARTS 4 жыл бұрын
@@andykirby hey andy, can you do a video on the easiest way to charge my ebike through solar please? I have an onyx motorbike. It borders on moped but has pedals so they consider it a bike. Its 72v 54ah. But i might be upgrading to 61ah. I'd like to mount it to the bike if possible so it charges while i ride. I remember seeing a vid you did with a semi large blue controller that was hooked up to the solar panel. I was thinking to build mounts and a bracket out of steel for the pane but making it a roof over the bike.
@martinmorris835
@martinmorris835 4 жыл бұрын
Nice looking Bike! Andy
@scottrocks1993
@scottrocks1993 2 жыл бұрын
I've just built something very similar. For my stepsons girlfriend A 36v 250w Gear motors Upgraded with 48v 13s 6p 15.6 amp Battery Park. with a 400w 48v controller. It does over 30 mph top speed. I only charge to build it £250 for parts & everything. The mongoose jump bike they give me to convert was sitting in the back garden for 6 years completely rusted up. I had to strip it down clean & rebuild it. And add some new parts before even starting to convert it. Jump bike frames are very small I had to custom build the battery pack perfectly for the size.
@poketfull
@poketfull 4 жыл бұрын
NO helmets (FAIL) and riding on a public highway, illegal, come on Andy, you should know this. The bike isn't set up to do the speed and power you are putting into it, brakes, suspension, rims etc. Lastly, it looks blooming hideous!
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Meh!
@poketfull
@poketfull 4 жыл бұрын
andy kirby I’m an absolute fan of your channel but come on, you should know better pal
@vickipps6821
@vickipps6821 3 жыл бұрын
I had the same problems
@kevindsouza7844
@kevindsouza7844 4 жыл бұрын
These are just dropshipped from aliexpress with a markup tho
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
Not AliExpress, we have our own factory.
@florinb4668
@florinb4668 4 жыл бұрын
@@andykirby can you put the link to the exact kit?or it not for sale?
@alanbrown7155
@alanbrown7155 4 жыл бұрын
I hate to say this but your going to end up spoiling it for the rest of us wanting to build there own bike. Your going to end up bringing in new laws that will get these bikes taken off the road. Thanks allot. I built my own with a baffang hd & mine is fast but the way your going on building these fast bikes, there is a lot of people watching these videos including people who want to spoil it for the rest of us & your just giving them an excuse to do so, you no like the dick head's that called the police on you a while back. I just like to keep the hobby going that's all.
@andykirby
@andykirby 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it’ll be fine mate don’t get your knickers in a twist.
@mattverrall4399
@mattverrall4399 4 жыл бұрын
Can you pm me, ive been trying to get in touch re a conversion kit
@adrianjones2761
@adrianjones2761 4 жыл бұрын
Hello andy new to all this. But it looks like fun what sort of price are these kits. I’m looking for a bit of fun with out any noise. I’m getting to old for motor cross now we’ll feel it for a week later anyway lol What’s about for 6 to 800 pounds that will make me smile 🤔🤔
@MadazzaMusik
@MadazzaMusik 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 😲👌
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