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[@jaycievictory8461]

For me, this episode really supports the hypothesis that a soul is effectively a superego. It gives you the *capacity* to resist your baser impulses. But that doesn't mean you have to.

[@jonathannoble7845]

But the only limits on behavior that vampires lack are one’s government by morality and compassion. Plenty of vampires have shown to have significant self control when it comes to resisting their baser impulses because there is a practical gain in doing so. Angelus, for example, was more than capable of keeping humans alive and unharmed because they were more useful to his long-term plans that way. Successful hostage taking and negotiation also requires the superego, not just morals. Personally, here is how I view vampires and souls: In some versions of the afterlife, when a person dies, everything that is bad in them gets burned away by the light of heaven, leaving a pure soul to enter the pearly gates, and the burned up ashy sludge left behind is what goes to hell. When a person becomes a vampire, instead of the burnt up ashy sludge going to hell and the good parts of the soul going to heaven, the burnt up Ashly sludge melds with the mindless demon spirit animating the corpse to create the vampire’s personality, and the rest of the soul floats aimlessly in the ether until the vampire is killed or a spell is cast to return their soul to their body.

[@jonathannoble7845]

It’s why I think Spike is the way he is. As William, his capacity for love and his desire to be loved in return both simultaneously had selfish and selfless aspects to them. He was coming from a good and well meaning place, but he also had a lot of bitterness tangled up with those feelings. This, as a vampire, he still has that same capacity and desire for love, but it’s primarily defined by its selfish aspects in him. He was able to risk his life for the name of love even without a soul, because it still allowed him to be brave and heroic and carry out a romantic fantasy, SPOILERS I GUESS but it was only after he got his soul back that he was able to actually accept the notion that Buffy didn’t love him back.

[@jaycievictory8461]

@@jonathannoble7845 Massive spoilers in your second comment. Please mark it with spoiler warning and a gap

[@MarisuSedai]

Angel closing the doors at the end is probably one of the most iconic moments in the whole series.

[@KS-xk2so]

It's a truly amazing moment. I remember thinking at the time FINALLY Angel gets to dunk on Holland so hard by throwing that line back in his face..... only for Holland to come back from the grave and shatter Angel's entire existence in an elevator like 5 episodes later lol

[@spamfilter32]

@@KS-xk2so Dude! spoilers.

[@KS-xk2so]

@@spamfilter32 this video is 9 months old bud. She watched that episode months ago at this point.

[@spamfilter32]

@@KS-xk2so Spoiler aren't just for the reactor, they are also for the people coming across this for the first time. It really isn't hard to type: "spoilers [enter], [enter], [enter], [enter], [enter] ..."

[@KS-xk2so]

@@spamfilter32 99% of people who watch reaction channels have already seen the movie/episode in question. This episode came out 23 years ago. To whine about spoilers is beyond stupid.

[@N0-1_H3r3]

I love this episode, which makes it abundantly clear that Angel having a soul doesn't prevent him from going down a dark path. And this version of Angel is a very different kind of bad than Angelus was.

[@blackkatt777]

Yeah. This version is closer to the anti social Angel from the episode "Are you now, and have you ever been?" "Take them all."

[@freshPrincess626]

@@blackkatt777Angel running on no fucks

[@cntuber]

your drusilla presentation is EVERYTHING

[@jaycievictory8461]

No, there's nothing in Buffy lore about newborns being stronger (that's a Twilight thing). I think Darla's strength in that moment is meant to be driven by her rage. Rage at having her choice taken away from her, rage at what Drusilla did, rage at remembering the first time Angel killed her, rage at realising he's trying to kill her again. And concomitantly you have Angel weakened by guilt (at so many freaking things) and a feeling of reluctance to kill her having failed her, which makes him hesitant.

[@blakeuckerman1540]

Exactly! 👏🏻

[@adamclifton29]

Also, rage at being used like a victim, having to resort to prostitution again, having to beg to be turned. Over 400 years of undiluted evil and then having to do that? W&H had it coming

[@rnroberts1254]

If you're looking for an in universe explanation, the supernatural part of Darla is still 400 years old so probably why she's still so strong.

[@cedricbrookins4851]

I assume she was stronger cause she was turned by the master

[@davidsumpter4933]

I love it when Dru says Daddy's Home implying Angel has turned dark again. Angle seems to be going dark knowing trouble is ahead. His crew is thinking short term where Angel is planning for a war.

[@danielbutler8103]

52:56 just pointing out Angel fired them right after Wes said "Right now the three of us are all that's standing between you and real darkness" but Angel didn't want them in the way.

[@MarisuSedai]

“I will scream if they don’t give Drusilla any lines.” Bish you’re gonna scream if they DO give her lines and you know it 😂

[@SweenyTodd98]

"And yet somehow, I just can't seem to care." This is one of my favorite episodes! Darla and Dru are so great and fun together (I'm ringing all over"). That ending is so dark (keep in mind not everyone in there were necessarily bad, some were just the innocent dates of the party guests) and it shows a different side of Angel and what he's capable of even with a soul.

[@jaycievictory8461]

2:50 "almost maternal but also very sexual in nature". Yep. And I think that explains why vampires are in such thrall to their sires. Sires are both lover and parent. Retroactively, I think it also speaks to how in love with Buffy Angel was in S1. We saw his conflicted feelings towards Darla even then, but when she threatens Buffy's life, he kills her.

[@Belnick6666]

nope, that is false, but I cant post the truth as it would be a spoiler still

[@SweenyTodd98]

This episode has one of my favorite WTF moments that the audience was definitely not supposed to notice. When the group are all in Angel's car and Cordy makes Angel turn around there's a quick shot as the turn where you can see that everyone in the car are stunt doubles... except for Cordy who suddenly transforms into a doll. It's one of those things that I can never un-see and laugh at every time.

[@jaycievictory8461]

Yep. He didn't just walk away. He locked them in. That's straight-up murder.

[@ItsDefOver9000]

Darla & Drusilla wouldn't have let anyone escape alive regardless. Angel signed the death warrants of everyone in that room the moment he decided not to intervene.

[@HeiwaTori]

@6:15 this was the most perfect thing I've ever seen XD Angel locking the door with "and yet somehow I just can't seem to care" oof after all these years still hits like nothing else

[@erikohman2294]

I LOVE the quote of the day just sitting there. "How did you think this would end?" I feel like it applies to this episode to the Nth degree.

[@danielbutler8103]

This isn't the first time we say Angel (with a soul) walk away and let a demon do what it wants. Back in season 2 episode 2 "Are You Now or Have You Ever Been" in the 50s flashbacks after the mob hanged him he walked out letting the demon have them.

[@caitlin329]

The whole 'I just can't seem to care' motif and Lindsay's 'I care. I guess I just don't mind.' A lot of little character bits in this one.

[@TheOriginalJammyOne]

Another top episode. I also love it when Holland Manners says to Angel the subtle mention that "you're the project."

[@BabyDinosaurRawr]

I feel like Darla's change of heart is coming from initially waking up, having to fight for her unlife, the last thing her remembering being Drusilla coming in and taking away her choice- she's rightfully angry at Drusilla and attacks her. Drusilla breaking down and saying about how she thought she was doing 'what you wanted, saving you' and then rambling about the worm brings Darla to her senses in a way that Drusilla is still mad and not in her right mind and well she's back to being a vampire now, might as well embrace the lack of humanity and have a good time. There's a small thread of irritated compassion in Darla's interactions with Drusilla. Darla's lack of soul doesn't come with a lack of feeling, unlike Angelus who is very much soulless, we have seen the Darla loves Angelus deeply and I think, like spike and Dru has a little humanity even when she's a vampire.

[@MrSupertallblackman]

"But not tonight." "And yet some how I just can't seem to care." "No, I walked to my car and drove away." "You're all fired." This episode is quite quotable. The dark Angel arc begins. Also something people often forget is that Angel doesnt hold the same stance on killing as Buffy does. Though he generally tries to keep people alive and even redeem them Angel kills humans all the time and he has shown that he has special contempt for Wolfarm and Hart. That being said not everyone at WFH are straight up evil and we don't know that everyone in the cellar was a lawyer so Angel letting them die is not ok.

[@blackkatt777]

It's the irony that Wolfram and Hart brought Darla back in hopes of corrupting Angel and leading him away from his Shanshu prophecy coming true. In this episode, their plan worked, but at the wrong time. Like a spider getting caught in their own web. Yeah, the fandom went nuts at the end of that scene, when he locked them in. That was almost Angelus-esque. This reminds me of something that someone said or a phrase that goes "No matter how far you go, you can't escape family." lol

[@veronicaquintanatorres2473]

This IS in my top 5 episodes from the series, no question about it :)

[@kilian-one-l]

The thing is, even if those characters are dead, there's still this "head office" they've been talking about this whole time

[@Talisguy]

I hear some people make the argument that what Angel did was justified because of how evil the lawyers were. This line of thought argues that the lawyers were responsible for a great deal of suffering, and killing them stopped them from hurting more people, so it was a good thing, in a utilitarian, pragmatic kind of way. ...There are two problems with this: 1) If Angel really did do this for pragmatic reasons and not revenge, why not set the building on fire to take out Darla and Drusilla as well? They're also extremely dangerous, especially together. Him leaving them alive only makes sense if his primary motivation was to punish W&H for stealing Darla's redemption from her and making his life hell. And 2) Holland told Lindsey to bring a date. There were probably spouses, girlfriends, boyfriends in that cellar who didn't work for the firm. We see in the next episode that there were catering staff down there. Holland's wife didn't seem evil, and Angel apparently left her to bleed out on the floor after she begged him to help her. He absolutely killed innocent people when he did this. ...There is no justification for this. What he did may be understandable. But it was still evil.

[@blakeuckerman1540]

Dark Angel

[@9ansean]

6:16 LOL I haven't even got past the first caption. It's having me half a minute to stop laughing. I'm still stoping. Thanks for this😆

[@jaycievictory8461]

"He's not thinking about family" It's doubly true. He's not doing his vampire family's wishes, but he's not doing his human family's wishes either. He's existing in some unpredictable unknown in-between. To quote the next episode which I know you've seen. "That wasn't Angelus. Wasn't Angel either. Who was that. Who was that"

[@ernesthakey3396]

In this one, I loved Angel throwing Holland's words back in his face. But Angel definitely went off the rails here. Gonna have more guilt fueling the brooding later...

[@MercenaryX84]

I really love the duo of D&D. I never knew Drusilla could fight this well, nothing from her previous appearances indicated that at all. As it was teased earlier in the season, Angel doesn't need a soul to do bad things and after all the prodding from W&H, he finally played their game and embraced the darkness.

[@einavnesher7423]

OK but for a second I tried to understand when they're talking about Dungens&Dragons on the episode and how did I missed it

[@PablitaOrtega77]

i just love this episode, your face when you realize he won't save them... priceless

[@Nexusofgeek]

Alley: Could you imagine having to wait another month for the next episode? Me: I don't have to imagine it since that is exactly what we had to do all the time back in the day with both these shows. With all our favorite shows really, no such thing as binge watching or streaming back in the day, we were at the mercy of the network's schedule.

[@jimmilligan5088]

story i tell a bunch: I never saw angel season 4 on tv. it just didn't happen for me, b/c for some reason I didn't have access to the WB. But the season 4 dvds came out the day after i broke up withwith my girlfriend at the time. I did not go to class, i blazed through 18 episodes in a single day and finished the next day. so i definitely waited for season 2, but b4 binge watching was a thing i grabbed the dvds and did exactly that. helped me get over a breakup too

[@TheNoybusiness]

Angel: "I actually swung into three different offices before I got that right." ;) "And obviously he doesn't have his own family, because it's been a couple of hundred years." And he ate them. Mom, dad and little sis. .

[@davidmeadows5627]

A newborn vampire is an emotionaless drone until they get to feed for the first time. Then, and only then, does their true vampire personality emerge. You saw that in this episode with Darla, and you also saw this before in the first season episode The Prodigal, with Angel himself in the flashback when he rose from his grave and had to feed on that cemetery grave digger before he came to his senses.

[@arthurspils2565]

And thus, we begin Alley's engagement with Dark Angel...

[@danielbutler8103]

29:30 I think it's either if you stake the body before it becomes a vampire they'll dust the instant they wakes up, or if you stake the body before it becomes a vampire they can't turn into a vampire. Same if you cut off the head or left them in sunlight.

[@jaycievictory8461]

15:15 that's a waiter serving wine. Ian AKA Passion of the Nerd is right. BAMF as the move is, Angel's actions in allowing the massacre are more than morally questionable.

[@SweenyTodd98]

Yep. Some of the people in there were just the dates and/or spouses of the guests that didn't do anything wrong. It's a super dark moment.

[@jb888888888]

"A [waiter's] personal politics comes into play heavily when choosing jobs. ... Any [waiter] working [for Wolfram & Hart] knew the risk involved; if they got killed, it's their own fault." -- _Clerks_ in the Buffyverse

[@67Daidalos]

It's probably due to perspective of having seen the whole show a handful of times, but I have a different take about Lindsey's apathy in face of near death here. I believe that from the moment he chose to stay at W&H at the end of 1x21, he was somehow conscious that this could happen, that one of the monster they used may turn against them. Plus losing his hand may also have made him think about the eventuality of death. I don't see him being especially into being killed or turn into a vampire, rather than just having already accepted the idea of it.

[@gordon861]

I looked at the length of this episode and wondered how much of the show had been included, silly me it was 15 minutes of the show followed by nearly a whole episode of Alley ranting about the episode and trying to predict what is coming next, based on other shows that followed it. But please don't change, we all love the rants and flailing as you try to guess what is coming next, while we sit here grinning at your ideas, as do you probably as you must have got so much further than this on Patreon.

[@serenity5293]

It's so interesting to watch the series now, 20 years later, as I watched it for the first time. Back then, I was very often angry at Angel and Buffy for many of their actions. Now I understand them in many ways. That 's Joss 's talent . He shows not cardboard characters, but real people with their strengths and weaknesses. So you just can't fall in love with these characters and worry about their fate with all your heart.

[@lurker1316]

If you analyze the Buffyverse long enough, you can probably find or invent a meaning for everything Drusilla says.

[@TheNoybusiness]

And importantly, those flashbacks leading up to this showed that Drusilla and Darla/"Grandmother" knew each other, which hadn't been established before this season. Godzilla, Darcilla... Oh my God, vampiresonas! Just imagine the fan art... Like all the Gemsonas for Steven Universe. Well, you psychically predicted the episode "Crush". "So could it happen any time before then?" "It could happen any time before then." !!!

[@patrickholt2270]

I don't think there's any particular advantage in powers from a vampire being older. There is a huge darwinian selection with them though, in that the weaker and stupider don't last as long before getting staked or whatever. They don't arise from their graves as martial arts champions immediately. Except for Dracula. He's got additional powers compared to everyone else Angel the show introduced the idea that vampires are immune to falling damage, although it's not clear whether or not Angel can fly fully.

[@laerry1]

Darla & Drusilla are my the most favourite vampire duo ever. Love them so much.

[@katequick3602]

I don't have to imagine waiting a month to see the next ep. I did have to wait and it was so hard. I think my dropped jaw didn't close for days at that ending!

[@blakeuckerman1540]

The exact same thing happened to me when I first saw i for the first time, it became one of my favorite episodes and I really enjoy it when I watch it again or when I see reactions on other people's faces to this episode. perfect! 🙌🏻

[@Buffy8Fan]

The class of Darla cracked me up. How a soul works is one of the biggest debates in the Buffyverse fandom. There are many opinions, but this is now I see it: The soul: It doesn't necessarily make you a good person, it just gives a person the capability of being so. Soulless: It doesn't mean a person cannot be and/or do good things or not feel emotions of good. It just means the drives of someone without a soul (including said positive emotions and actions) will be based on the negative aspects of a person from when they had a soul. This is the first time the Buffyverse gets into details of how the technicalities of creating vampires work rather than Buffy saying to Giles, "To make you a vampire they have to suck your blood. And then you have to suck their blood. It's like a whole big sucking thing." Although in this case some of it could easily be the inner-workings of Drusilla's ritualistic mind. 11:55-12:08: Technically there isn't much else to do when faced with a newly turned vampire who hasn't yet fed. I remember the creator saying he was going to have Angel save the lawyers unwillingly before realizing the "darkness" storyline they were working towards was at the point where he wouldn't save them and with that he also had to have Angel fire the group.

[@antonbrakhage490]

That's sort of how I take the soul in the Buffyverse as well- it gives you the capacity to be good- you still have to make the choice to do it. Note that the stuff Dru does in this episode is not necessary to make a vampire- the bloodsharing seems to be all that's strictly required. IIRC Angel describes it as ritual. But Dru is the sort of vampire who's into that, apparently.

[@Tim85-y2q]

I have vivid memories of watching this on first release and waiting to see what happened next, but without getting into spoilers there's another point in the series that had an episode before a break that was even more excruciating a wait.

[@wonipowa7542]

It's so funny watching someone else watch this years later with the same reactions I had as a teen watching this show. The word you are looking for is chemistry. They had fantastic chemistry with each other and I loved these actors. It's why there was a thriving fan fiction scene at the time online with all of these romantic pairings.

[@toshomni9478]

"All alone. All alone in the dirt. - We've lost our way and the little worm won't dance if he's told to." (Starts to sob) "No. No". Just our favorite girl Dru being blue. The things she says usually make sense if you think about them. Great reaction.

[@jb888888888]

Well since vampires are (un)dead, staking a dead body is how you usually destroy vampires on this show.

[@BryanMartinezSevenM]

Gotta say, I dig the cutaways, and I appreciate the effort you put in these videos.

[@joefriedman9843]

"I saw you coming my lovely. The moon showed me." Such a fucking great Dru line (all of them are).

[@herondale]

angel locking the lawyers in the wine room is always amazing, show stopping, never been done before everytime i watch it!

[@TheDarkknightrules92]

One of the best episodes of the series. So epic and underrated!!!

[@jaycievictory8461]

"smash" Oh my gosh 😭😭😭🤣

[@giantdevil2613]

I always thought Lindsay's lack of fear was him knowing they brought it on themselves or knowing they deserve it. Something like that.

[@XNSever]

yeah I'm going to need a video of the full course on Dru lol

[@TigerNightmare]

I think Darla was always that strong, we just haven't seen it. Some vampires are stronger than others, but none of them should have trouble lifting 200 lbs or so, however much Angel weighs. Drusilla also lifted Spike off the ground with one arm and carried him.

[@notoriouslybratty]

Tim Minear who is an amazing writer on Angel and wrote this episode also produced American Horror Story (which you previously mentioned watching before) and Firefly (another Joss Whedon’s series I hope you watch someday).

[@ibgvox]

He actually co-ran (with Greenwalt) Angel for Joss and co-ran Firefly with Joss. The most Jossian of his lieutenants (Marti, Greenwalt and Minear) (plus Solomon but he was, well, his eyes on set I guess)

[@kathyastrom1315]

And Tim’s last name is pronounced “my-NEAR”. I was on the Salon Table Talk forum when these shows were on, and Tim dropped in occasionally during our watch-and-post sessions. I’ll talk about my favorite of his chats later this season.

[@ibgvox]

@@kathyastrom1315 Correct!

[@iconocast]

calling lindsey a little birtch cracks me up every time.

[@kilian-one-l]

This ending shook me, for real

[@mkitten13]

I totally agree with you. Darla and Drusilla is a fantastic duo, I love their dynamic :D

[@serenity4eva89]

"And yet somehow, I just can't seem to care" - Angel... ENTER DARK ANGEL! 😉 Darla & Dru are ICONIC AF! 🖤 I will never not enjoy the fact that two statements Holland made resulted in the wine cellar sequence. Why the f**k would you taunt two vampires (Darla and Angel) that vehemently hate you with such a bloody good time? 🤣

[@blakeuckerman1540]

One of my favorite episodes of Angel; the Dark Angel, not Angelus only dark Angel . 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@zemoxian]

Drusilla smash. I’m on board with that. 🥰

[@mutantanemone]

Two Queens: the episode 💅😏

[@TheBehenaught]

Another episode ending with a boom, maybe even better than Dru showing up. Next quote "Somehow I can't seem to care" calling it

[@9ansean]

So I kind of meant to say this last week, but I found it funny that you said after three dark and heavy episode of Buffy you were glad to back to Angel. Because the next BTVS episode is kind of lighter and funnier that what came before. These next three Angel episodes...uh not so much. LOL

[@subjectd6985]

This episode really makes you look back and realise... Yeah, Wolfram and Hart could have *easily* killed Angel quickly and quietly many times already... But they haven't...

[@Blahwoof85]

13:39 Fun fact: On my last phone my ringtone was Drusilla saying this line

[@danielbutler8103]

33:30 to be fair to Lindsey, have you seen Darla, Who wouldn't have a crush on her.

[@kevinbre7563]

I remember watching live back in the day. I was on pins and needles the week between 2x09 and 2x10. Then the ending of 2x10, I lost my mind 🤣❤️

[@jasonfitak9521]

I was one of the people that had to wait for a new episode. The good old days.

[@jaycievictory8461]

6:37 to 6:41 feels like an evolution through shock, horror and (let's face it) arousal 😂😂😂 (no judgement here, same)

[@trufamilybromontqc]

The duo ,darla and Drucilla 😍😍😍😍

[@jaycievictory8461]

You can tell how amazing an episode is when I realise I keep having to rewind cos I've stopped watching Alley's reaction and am focusing too much on the clip. Even in its tiny form on the screen 😅

[@testytest69420]

"Is that a metaphor or is she just speaking Drucilla?" Yes.

[@user-gy3gu3ep3p]

Dru is cured from her insanity. Yeah one of the reasons she calls Darla grandmother is the sire line

[@basharic3162]

In the lore of the Buffyverse vamps get stronger the older they get. Something about the demon growing in power with age. Which is why the oldest ones we've seen can't even make themselves look human anymore. It's all very fuzzy though, and more often than not the answer is vamps are exactly as strong as the plot requires them to be.

[@samanthas8340]

I personally don't thunk Angel felt responsible for Darla being brought back, I think he's aware enough to put that on WRH who are actually responsible. And with Cordy not having a vision in awhile, I think it makes it all the more the point that the PTB sent the the vision to prevent him from chasing after Darla and Drusilla and veering of course. He is soppose to help the helpless more or less not punish the guilty or the evil that Darla and drusilla represent. The interesting thing is by the time he catches up with them it doesn't matter because he let's them continue to kill everyone which is exactly what would have happened had he not showed up - so you could almost argue it was meant to happen regardless. Is it morally wrong? Sure. There's a lot of great arguments to support that. However, That line about how "you don't qualify" and earlier content about how WR&H employees sold there souls kind of made sense to me in my younger years because I didn't think they had souls to save 🤷‍♀️ All great stuff! And yes, Drusilla is Queen!

[@donsample1002]

This is the episode that solidified my opinion that the Powers That Be are evil. Angel had the opportunity to stop Dru and Darla before they could start their little murder spree, but instead the PTBs send Cordy a vision to stop some random guy from committing suicide. Two or three people commit suicide every day in Los Angels County, but they don’t rate visions. You’d almost think that the PTBs got exactly what they wanted when Angel locked all those lawyers in with D&D.

[@ernesthakey3396]

In SciFi, for your daughter to be your grandmother there's usually a trip back in time involved. :)

[@menachemsalomon]

"I am my own Grandpaw." And no funny stuff, either.

[@russellward4624]

Yes I can imagine. Lol it sucked but that was episodic tv. I can remember it like it was yesterday. Being totally perplexed by Angel firing everyone. Trying to figure out what was going to happen.

[@michaelstanley5575]

If you like buffy and angel, you should check out Grimm. I think two of the producers from buffy and angel worked on it and it is really good. And is not just a copy of the buffy verse. It's original and unique in its own way. Well worth checking out.

[@kimandreasheroy]

6:15 LOL!! Nice work 😂😁👏

[@Talisguy]

About the "different personality" thing, Darla really didn't seem happy to have been turned into a vampire at first, and the last thing she decided before being forcibly turned was to die as a human...

[@sadfaery]

You know, it's really a pity that we did NOT get a Darla/Drusilla spin-off. But then, I guess you can't have the bad guys as your protagonists. Or at least you couldn't back then. And of course we're not done with them on Angel yet anyway. Sigh.

[@blacktronlego]

18:13 This is the emergence of Angel's third persona, it's not remorseful Angel or soulless Angelus. This is Dark Angel. 51:13 Please don't! Holland Manners is not the boss, not even of the LA branch of Wolfram & Hart.

[@Belnick6666]

it is not darla that comes back, it is a demon, different entity

[@paullamb3109]

Great reaction love Darla and Drusilla’s relationship i know this is going to sound disturbing 😳 but I’d ❤️ Drusilla to make me a new Vampire 🧛

[@spacenerdtrue]

Some other comments have mentioned it, but just to reiterate, baby vamps being "stronger" is almost exclusively a Twilight thing. In basically every other vampire setting/mythos/pop culture older=stronger. Just another reason so many of us hate Twilight.

[@danielbutler8103]

36:14 I don't think New Vampires are stronger, just wilder wanting to eat. + Angel wanted to save Darla, but now he has to kill her so he wasn't fighting at full power.

[@QuayNemSorr]

"Daddy?!" Close Drusilla. Close.

[@ashlielove6513]

Dark Angel is the best Angel. 👌 You have to go down a while different path to kill Darla and Dru.

[@tehcoolemu]

Wow, you called a lot of things in this one! Kind of unusual (no shade on you, it's not an easy show to predict).

[@davidgorman994]

In my own head canon, I think Dru, while going along with Wolfram and Hart, isn't really fooled by them. She wants to help Darla and works with them but I think she was very aware of how they were using Darla. Maybe my favourite episode of Angel so far and Dru fits into Angel the series very well. It's also the most physical we've seen Dru.

[@David-un4cs]

I don't think she was fooled for a second. Her psychic abilities and intuition let her see so clearly even if her mental illness sometimes makes it difficult to communicate or act effectively on her knowledge. When she does though she's pretty damn calculating and scary.

[@thescarletteve]

I agree with you. I think she might have seen this as a chance to free Darla from what wolfram and hart is doing to her. I think it was also a way for Dru to try to rebuild part of her “family”, sort of a 2 in 1 action for her.

[@fad23]

I kinda want to see your reactions to the various bands featuring the actors of Buffy and Angel!

[@RB-vo4gi]

Hey, I don’t know if you’ve mentioned it before or if it’s written down somewhere, but I’ve looked for a Buffy/Angel watch guide that matches the order you’re watching them in (so I could figure out when you would get to certain episodes) and I couldn’t find a guide that lined up with your watch lists.

[@jb888888888]

She's using the SlayAlive Reactor's guide. I tried to post a link but surprise surprise KZbin deleted it.

[@FrancescoPanti]

I was waiting you watching this since the first video of you I saw. I was into this when you begin two years an more ago

[@jimmilligan5088]

angel isn't the project because he messes with W&H. they accept he will meddle. but thats not why they mess with him

[@jamesgreenshade6065]

@23:23 And then just lock the doors and have Darla and Drucilla like go at it. What kind of movie are you directing there Alley?

[@ilovevegimite]

"Imagine having to wait a month for the next episode", well now you know how we feel when we have to wait longer than a week to see your next Buffy or Angel reaction. Which season did you enjoy the most, Buffy or Angel?

[@danielbutler8103]

I don't think they could have gotten any Vampire, they needed one that would turn her not just kill her. Because to turn someone into a vampire the Vampire drinks their blood until they're nearly dead then they get the human to drink their blood so a random Vampire could stop at part one and just leave Darla dead.