Anglican Unscripted 839 - What happened to Calvin Robinson @ MA?

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UPDATE [1/23/2024]: The Rev. Jeffrey S. Miller has posted a note of clarification on the conference Facebook page: “For the concluding panel discussion of the 2024 Mere Anglicanism Conference, Father Calvin Robinson was pulled from participating not because of his views on women’s ordination, but because he failed to address in his plenary presentation the topic that was assigned to him. Father Robinson was not asked to leave the conference, but remained through its conclusion and was paid his full honorarium.” *After Jeff Miller and Bp Edgar released their statement and before Episode 840 was recorded an invitation was sent to Calvin Robinson. We are waiting for a reply...
@barelyprotestant5365
@barelyprotestant5365 9 ай бұрын
I'll be having Fr Calvin on my channel this morning, if you want to hear the full story from his side.
@johnfisher247
@johnfisher247 9 ай бұрын
As Calvin told the organisers he isn't your dark face to set up and use so your think or prove you are nonracist or truth tellers. Cultural Marxism is expressed in feminist chauvinism which thinks male and females are identical. Sameness isn't equal dignify or equality under the law. Gender theory and critical race theory are the same social Marxist thinking. Anglicans sacrificing apostolic example and scripture to decadently fit it!
@RyanGrandon
@RyanGrandon 9 ай бұрын
Excuses excuses for censorship of sound doctrine and not wanting to be reproved.
@lightinlondon8168
@lightinlondon8168 9 ай бұрын
"not because of his views on women’s ordination" Yeah, sure.
@alanjones6882
@alanjones6882 9 ай бұрын
Calvin stated in a chat with Brett Murphy that he was asked to talk on 'Critical Theory' and not 'Critical Race Theory' which, if it had been made clear to him he would have refused, not wanting to be anybody's token black face. If you reached out to Calvin I'm sure he would be glad to spare you the time to put forward his side of what happened
@christopherhathaway6254
@christopherhathaway6254 9 ай бұрын
The people, like me, who PAID to attend the conference, largely due to hear speakers like Calvin Robinson, are the ones who actually PAID for the microphone. This was a scandal which will have horrible consequences for the future of MA.
@kraxxis
@kraxxis 9 ай бұрын
Very disappointed with the papering over of what was appalling treatment of Calvin Robertson. People who make excuses for feminism seem to have no problem with his treatment. And finally I am disappointed with Anglican Unscripted.
@tracycc123
@tracycc123 9 ай бұрын
Reagan paid for the microphone in 1980 GOP debate in New Hampshire. When Mere Anglicanism asked Fr. Robinson to come and speak they knew what they were getting. Did they think he would be anyone else but himself? I think someone big and powerful got their feelings hurt when he called out the practice of ordaining women. Thus why he was disinvited.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 9 ай бұрын
Yes, disgusting people in power
@ericsmith7981
@ericsmith7981 9 ай бұрын
Very disappointed that you did not invite Rev. Calvin Robinson on your show to allow him to defend himself. I fully agree with him and support him. I converted to the Roman Catholic Church 30 years ago from Anglicanism. Watching your show regularly confirms I made the right choice.
@beab5850
@beab5850 9 ай бұрын
Ditto
@tjwalsingham
@tjwalsingham 9 ай бұрын
Outrageous that you didn’t invite and interview Calvin Robinson himself, he has said he would make himself available. Instead you invited this chap who seems to defend Calvin’s cancellation, and he was cancelled whatever terminology your guest uses.
@deannajunkin3696
@deannajunkin3696 9 ай бұрын
I am a Missouri Synod Lutheran (and pastor's wife). I have been a fan of Fr. Robinson for some time. I find his views on Luther and the Reformation to be challenging, but I am mature enough in my faith to consider other viewpoints. I do understand how he can connect the dots that he did in his speech. I don't believe it should have gotten him disinvited. Sometimes we need to hear uncomfortable things and consider them, whether we ultimately come to agree or not.
@RevBrettMurphy
@RevBrettMurphy 9 ай бұрын
Its clear Womens Ordination is the untouchable idol of some corners of the ACNA! I think they cancelled Fr Calvin for fear of how erudite his defence of traditional Holy Orders is. I've heard him speak on it and he is extremely articulate and convincing.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 9 ай бұрын
Women must be removed from the clergy IF we are to save the CofEi if we are ever to see true Christianity back in charge of a now repulsive country. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🙏
@Coolrunnings007
@Coolrunnings007 9 ай бұрын
You honestly believe that the church has never heard a good argument before against women’s orders? Sounds like people disagree honestly on this topic.
@johnfisher247
@johnfisher247 9 ай бұрын
Why didn't you interview Calvin who is ready to give a defence of himself? You can't take truth telling. The Anglican Church is confused and lost.
@hazchemel
@hazchemel 9 ай бұрын
Calvin is correct in saying that feminism is the most important target to unwind from the culture. In the Anglosphere, if you're younger than about 55, your whole life has been lived in the feminist system - suppress men, boost women. Feminism is probably the main reason for the de-industrialisation of the west, for example, and the degradation of academia.
@johnhudghton3535
@johnhudghton3535 9 ай бұрын
An interesting concept? How haa that worked please? I thought western de-industrialisation was due to the holders and managers of capital finding it more profitable to open up new and unregulated labour markets in lesa developed nations. Cost of labour and commodoties like energy, lower = more profit.
@janeproctor5542
@janeproctor5542 9 ай бұрын
At some point the lesbian feminists who were being educated according to the philosophies being expounded by their college professors and all the most avant garde and fashionable art theory and criticism which became institutionalized by the curriculum content creators and people who hired the teaching professionals to preach accordingly planted the seeds of the necessity for a full scale revolution, at least ideological, in the minds of the movers and shakers of the feminist movement, namely the brilliant academics of the sixties and seventies like Kate Millet Susan Brownmillar and many more until the ideas around sexual politics became more integrated and centred in marxist communist modes of communication and ideas of practice, ,,praxis,, and models for collectivizing their so- called feminist movement, at least behind the scenes, in who and what ideas and students got promoted in academia and how, of course, the shoulder-rubbing became systematized for those who have worked themselves onto the academic ladder, up it and into administrative positions, positioned to alter policy and the day to day projects of enforcing their d.e.i. objectives upon all the employees from top to bottom to prove how improving this Kollective of Kraziness, powers us toward our proper punishment and salvation, at least for those born white, preferably, but not un -wholly, unfemale who happened to be born and raised within the cultures of Western imperialism which came to dominate, suppedly by the exclusion and oppression of a system of meritocracy of those who had the means to promote and hand down structures and policies that were descriminatory and created unfair exploitation and pred 14:34 judice..
@janeproctor5542
@janeproctor5542 9 ай бұрын
​@@johnhudghton3535I thought it was the ,,Free Trade,, policies that accomplished the de industrialization of the West. During the ,,Mulroney,, years in Canada, we got sold into the Globalist agenda,...by Brian Mulroney the conservative PM.
@tubermind
@tubermind 9 ай бұрын
As a woman, I couldn't agree more!!
@tubermind
@tubermind 9 ай бұрын
With Calvin, that is 😊🙏🏻🌿
@C.EricWood
@C.EricWood 9 ай бұрын
Jeff, that's a lot of words to say "we don't allow people to question WO"
@odinsraven116
@odinsraven116 9 ай бұрын
Ha ha yes an awful lot of words. But not convincing ones. It was the most painful performance i have sat through. Not on your part , kevin. But Jeff, you must try harder . This was not about anything except women ( or rather feminists ) getting ordained. You and your clergy are sadly willing to ban the godly calvin and completely UNABLE to stand up to a few strident feminists. Shame on you.
@butchshadwell3613
@butchshadwell3613 9 ай бұрын
I was at the Mere Anglicanism conference this year too. I attended specifically to hear from Fr. Robinson. I was very disappointed when he was prevented from occupying a planned seat on the discussion panel on the last day. No other speaker grabbed my attention as well as he did. I loved the service at St. Philip's.
@RyanGrandon
@RyanGrandon 9 ай бұрын
What's also frustrating is that this podcast will rail on the Episcopalians all podcast but doesn't address amd call put the sins in our own camp, which is Women's ordination. They act unbiased on that topic, but Calvin is right in saying this sin, if not eliminated will fester and grow until we are the next episcopal church. Then there will be a major split AGAIN. THE WRITTING IS ON THE WALL. ACNA, REMOVE THE PRIESTESSES.
@alexandercantu9009
@alexandercantu9009 9 ай бұрын
The rot has, I fear, already taken hold. Our bishop does not ordain women to the priesthood, but if an already ordained woman moves in, she is allowed to serve. Typical Anglican duplicity I think. ACNA most assuredly will in time, I suspect, follow all the errors of the Episcopal Church.
@RyanGrandon
@RyanGrandon 9 ай бұрын
@alexandercantu9009 that's a really tough pill for me to swallow, but I hear you. None of these people are taking a strong stand against women's ordination. A bunch of cowards.
@marmeemarch7080
@marmeemarch7080 9 ай бұрын
​@@RyanGrandonthere are people taking a strong stance for traditional holy orders, and for Christian positions on all the gender issues, and some of them have taken flak for it, indeed.
@roberthilsdon3900
@roberthilsdon3900 9 ай бұрын
Great apologetic speech to say Calvine was not silenced. The empty chair says it all- shame we did not get any comments about what he said. We talk in love but must not be frightened to say hard things people might not want to hear.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 9 ай бұрын
The problem may be saying things he doesn't have the authority to say.
@roberthilsdon3900
@roberthilsdon3900 9 ай бұрын
@davidsprouse151 It is not hard to say something about the issue not being addressed on the stage. You have an empty chair, why. If I had been there, I would want to know why. It was poorly handled at best, and not to say that does a disservice to the concept of this conference.
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q 9 ай бұрын
Kevin I hope you do a follow up on this. I bet it wouldn't be that difficult to get a chat with Fr Robinson. Or take two months. He can zoom in from anywhere anytime. Have you asked?
@sfloridapatriot5572
@sfloridapatriot5572 9 ай бұрын
I suspect Fr Robinson would have found the time to have a zoom call with you.
@butchshadwell3613
@butchshadwell3613 9 ай бұрын
I thought the response to Fr. Robinson was strongly positive. Most of the people I spoke with at the conference, were either strongly in agreement with him, or felt strongly that further debate of the issues he presented was needed.
@katrinacharlwood1137
@katrinacharlwood1137 9 ай бұрын
I love Calvin Robinson. He spoke truth. I love truth 🙏🏼❤️
@iancallard3561
@iancallard3561 9 ай бұрын
Oh dear. They invite an outspoken celebrity, and then feathers get ruffled. Wake up, evangelicals, there's no gospel advance without disruption!
@sarahwillison1448
@sarahwillison1448 9 ай бұрын
He wasn't being outspoken; he was quoting scripture!
@trustthevorlon
@trustthevorlon 9 ай бұрын
I think it was a mistake on your part not inviting Calvin onto the show or least extending the invitation first (even if he didn’t accept right away)
@davidrudd2215
@davidrudd2215 9 ай бұрын
A voice emerging from the mist, These words her ears could not resist, "Listen to me," the serpent hissed To Eve, the proto-feminist.
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q 9 ай бұрын
It is disheartening to see a journalist nodding in agreement to spin.
@FlightProgramAborted
@FlightProgramAborted 9 ай бұрын
He was cancelled, he was uninvited, he had to make is own way home. It was appalling. It started not eh stage, it should have ended on the stage. There is no dumbing this shocking behavior down
@jmlineb
@jmlineb 9 ай бұрын
You can parse words all you want. But when you disinvite someone from speaking under pressure, that is the very definition of cancellation. What is so disturbing about being ACNA clergy is that if Calvin Robinson can get cancelled, so can I.
@GordonGartrell27
@GordonGartrell27 9 ай бұрын
So the Anglican Church in America will have to once again formally divide. Sad, but i’m all for it for the sake of Truth. A priest is a father. Fathers are male. The two-thousand year witness of historic Christianity attests to the reality that in the Church, the clerical priesthood is uniquely male. I am thankful for Fr. Robinson bringing the issue to the forefront. This is not a peripheral issue. I imagine I’m not the only one for whom this is hill to die on.
@edwarddeburca8034
@edwarddeburca8034 9 ай бұрын
There's too much of this across all Christian churches. The orthodox (small O) are cancelled (yes, cancelled) and the heterodox are promoted. Shame on Merely Anglican for this.
@TNFLHT
@TNFLHT 9 ай бұрын
I have said it more times than i care to count. If the ACNA does not make a hardline stance on Womens ordination soon they are doomed to repeat the sins of TEC.
@roberthilsdon3900
@roberthilsdon3900 9 ай бұрын
Really feel that you should take down the update or include Calvin comments on what he thought was said.
@Dave-cf4xq
@Dave-cf4xq 9 ай бұрын
Agree completely. Very different story hearing Calvin's side.
@lees5073
@lees5073 9 ай бұрын
I often think that Calvin Robinson is a modern voice crying out in the wilderness. The least you could do is arrange an interview and allow him to explain his viewpoint. I'm sure a mutually convenient time could be found.
@UrsulaPainter
@UrsulaPainter 9 ай бұрын
In my experience, family life was broken up by a matriarch who was incredibly harshly dictatorial and demanding. We never recovered.
@darylmulwane3430
@darylmulwane3430 9 ай бұрын
FATHER Calvin must have struck a nerve. Women priests and crt have A
@walterj.tanner625
@walterj.tanner625 9 ай бұрын
Let me translate: the conference organizers gave Calvin a talking-to about what they''ll find acceptable (thereby telling Calvin to not speak in Truth or Spirit). He agreed, and then realized that was wrong and this is a pit of vipers and went back to his original speech. So they took the microphone away from him for the panel.
@annebell565
@annebell565 9 ай бұрын
that'll teach you not to invite John the Baptist to your 'woke BBQ's' ... (Goodonya, Cal!!)
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 9 ай бұрын
God Bless Calvin 🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@LeoRegum
@LeoRegum 9 ай бұрын
This is actually not it. I understand their original request was not as specific as they had intended, and Calvin as is his right interpreted their request for a talk on "critical theory" to be the whole gamut rather than race-specific CRT. The mistake is their own, Calvin has been exonerated entirely. The organizers, if this is true, should publicly apologize.
@Apriluser
@Apriluser 9 ай бұрын
I am Anglican of about 10 years, my husband is our priest of a 3 year-old parish, and we do meet in a strip mall! However, we have icons, incense, chant the Psalms, sing from the rich tradition of the church, share a meal each week following worship, are located next to a tattoo shop on one side and a flooring store on the other. Would love a “proper” building but not ready for that quite yet. We are in our third location as we have so many coming from other traditions that are looking for “more”. Thank you for sharing about Mere Anglicanism. Wasn’t familiar with it but sounds like a wonderful conference.
@ATVMinistries
@ATVMinistries 9 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@marmeemarch7080
@marmeemarch7080 9 ай бұрын
Except for the part where Fr. Miller decided he didn't want to let anyone mention the elephant in the room. . .
@drewblack749
@drewblack749 9 ай бұрын
You should look up Fr Calvin Robinsons substack.
@tomcampbell9773
@tomcampbell9773 9 ай бұрын
No one perhaps knows all of the things said behind the scenes, but one thing is for sure, if one agrees or disagrees, one does not cancel a brother, unless of course, one wants to keep someone silent. I can't think of a better articulated speaker than Calvin and I do happen to see his point and I do think it adresses the topic quite specifically. Nice to know he got paid, but that means precious little here. If Mr. Miller didn't like what Calvin had to say, the money is a good way to try and clear his conscience. Yes, one shouldn't think badly of his brother, but since this is social media...
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q 9 ай бұрын
Actually Fr Robinson had the good sense to record what was said to him. We don’t know yet but we will.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 9 ай бұрын
He is articulate
@darylmulwane3430
@darylmulwane3430 9 ай бұрын
Problem in the Acna.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 9 ай бұрын
Jeff Miller and his attitude needs to go
@brotherbroseph1416
@brotherbroseph1416 9 ай бұрын
Jeff and other dudes like him telling Calvin he can’t speak. What the hell is going on? Jeff are you a priest?
@russ254
@russ254 9 ай бұрын
I don't think we need to be shy about calling out many parties in modern culture as Marxist - like Marxists, they divide the world into oppressors and oppressed. The difference is that each special interest identifies their own oppressor, and themselves as oppressed. Critical Race Theory, queer theory, post-colonial theory, gender theory - all have a common root in the Frankfurt School, and postmodernism. Anyone looking for more information on this topic can check out James Lindsay's book, Cynical Theories.
@mikecrees9715
@mikecrees9715 9 ай бұрын
But one has to remember that although Marxism et al, are worldly responses to injustices, the church can often go the other way and ignore the actual injustices that do predominate and often even take part in them, due to the rejection of the worldly philosophies that have given them prominence. The book of James is far more direct about injustice and faith than any Marxist.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 9 ай бұрын
Marxism has never been tried...
@russ254
@russ254 9 ай бұрын
😂 and no true Scotsman has ever beat his wife (logical fallacy)
@GordonGartrell27
@GordonGartrell27 9 ай бұрын
A conference that probes questions such as “How can we overcome secularism?” very ironically cancels one of its speakers.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 9 ай бұрын
I hope Calvin is short listed for the archbishop of canterbury. They need a "person of color"
@judithcressey1682
@judithcressey1682 9 ай бұрын
He is no-one's token ' person of colour'.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 9 ай бұрын
@@judithcressey1682 fair is fair
@jm9673
@jm9673 9 ай бұрын
He is not in the C of E so cannot become Archbishop of Canterbury, unfortunately.
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 9 ай бұрын
@@jm9673 😉
@eugenieharris8478
@eugenieharris8478 9 ай бұрын
It was disappointing that you didn’t interview Calvin instead of Jeff. Calvin told Gavin Ashenden he had been available for interview. Jeff’s interview was not very engaging. ….not up to your normal standard
@filigree123
@filigree123 9 ай бұрын
The first time I have ever down voted Anglican Unscripted. Your speaker was fumbling hugely in his attempt to defend the indefensible. Did you try to contact Calvin, or do you have plans to ask him on to say what his perspective was?
@roberthilsdon3900
@roberthilsdon3900 9 ай бұрын
Having listened to Calvin Robinson on his take on the conference, it was not as friendly as outlined here.
@seansheehy6725
@seansheehy6725 9 ай бұрын
The truth hurts BUT it sets us free.
@anonymoussource701
@anonymoussource701 9 ай бұрын
Jeff Walton gives us mealy mouthed drivel from an intellectually shallow perspective. The sort of nonsense that is destroying the church.
@johnmills1816
@johnmills1816 9 ай бұрын
Calvin said he would have come on your show regarding this so why don't you invite soon.
@charlesm9190
@charlesm9190 9 ай бұрын
Is this a defense for Apostasy? Is Mere Anglicanism now a "wolf in sheepskin"? How can you remove a speaker for not getting the topic right?
@bd1949
@bd1949 9 ай бұрын
You need to stop defending the ACNA for its embrace of feminism. Calvin would have come on. Your guest is a nice guy but unqualified to address what the acna did.
@johnsbox
@johnsbox 9 ай бұрын
@Calvin Robinson sparks controversy wherever he goes and by whatever he says. Well, he is a true follower of Christ, but let's hope he never goes too far and upsets too many of us, even on the very conservative fringes of the church! Time will tell! Having said that, I support him through and through.
@matthewstokes1608
@matthewstokes1608 9 ай бұрын
When you have perverts and spineless creeps in our temple - in our clergy - you need men like Calvin desperately if you want young people back. Wake up and get unwoke - fast. This society is going gangrenous - and CR is the right voice. Wake up.
@Coolrunnings007
@Coolrunnings007 9 ай бұрын
This was a good interview. Now hope you also invite Rev. Robinson as well on this topic.
@HenryLeslieGraham
@HenryLeslieGraham 9 ай бұрын
disappointing interview/smear campaign. classic TEC gaslighting
@monicabrewster2476
@monicabrewster2476 9 ай бұрын
Evidently several people walked out when he read the Bible passage.
@adrianthomas1473
@adrianthomas1473 9 ай бұрын
The Anglican ordination of woman changed the nature of ordination, and our theology of ministry becomes similar to the early Quakers. It also changes the relationship between ordained and so-called lay. We enter the realm of Martin Luther’s ‘Priesthood of all believers.’ We are all ordained and we have recognised ministers.
@darylmulwane3430
@darylmulwane3430 9 ай бұрын
So in Classical Liberlasim, one's own conscience is the highest form of belief?
@sharqueeshajohnalaneesha2019
@sharqueeshajohnalaneesha2019 9 ай бұрын
The “I’m paying for this microphone” quote comes from a 1980 debate during the Presidential Election.
@tarawerachannel4780
@tarawerachannel4780 9 ай бұрын
Gosh! What a lot of words to say very little.
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
@TheLincolnrailsplitt 9 ай бұрын
This was an engaging interview. Those who were responsible for booting Calvin out of that conference should be ashamed of themselves. It seems they either don't have a backbone or can't handle hearing a contrary opinion. Jeff seems to endorse this rotten decision.
@theworkman317
@theworkman317 9 ай бұрын
Kevin, you are right: I don't get why you disinvite Calvin. Good questions there at the end. So, Calvin may have overcooked Marx and got on a high-horse about Liberalism, but it's clear the real reason he was 'uninvited' was (18:38) "issues of holy orders are controversial" - he stepped on the feminists: proving his point that it is the 'brute force' for much of the nonsense in the church today. Rev. Miller, like many people who try to 'navigate' these issues and be "deft"; they quote Locke, and Liberalism, and "holy orders", they call women's orders 'dicey topic", they want nuance, and refer to Martin Luther, Hagel and Marx, ... but will not use the RELEVANT SCRIPTURE. Calvin was "Speaking conviction according to his conscience"? Yes, a conscience based on Scripture.
@supdudehowsitgoing
@supdudehowsitgoing 9 ай бұрын
Where’s Fr. Robinson? So much for this “unbiased” show.
@Dave-cf4xq
@Dave-cf4xq 9 ай бұрын
I am in shock at the "unbiased" guest you chose to supposedly tell us the truth of what happened to Calvin. Why won't you let Calvin come on your show to give his side of the story when he has publicly said he would love to do so any time you make available? I will be unsubscribing from your channel if you just let this slide and never allow us to hear from Calvin himself.
@pentsmethodology
@pentsmethodology 7 ай бұрын
We love Calvin Robinson. He is an incredible man and has been treated appallingly.
@lightunseen896
@lightunseen896 9 ай бұрын
Is there an available link to Calvin Robinson's "substack" where he's posted his text?
@Martin_Adams184
@Martin_Adams184 9 ай бұрын
A very interesting discussion. Thank you! It seemed to me, as someone who was not at the conference, that the account of what Calvin Robinson said, and of the reactions to it, was balanced and well-rooted in historical issues and in current perspectives on holy orders. I especially liked Jeff Walton's cautions about the use of the term "Cultural Marxism", for it expressed rather better than I have done, some of the long-standing reservations I have held about the term. Thank you for that! As far as the issue of women's orders is concerned, I am one of those who is still trying to work out what he believes -- from scripture, from historic church teaching, and from the impact of modern developments in practice and belief. One thing that I find hard to shake off is a sense that, in far too many cases for me to brush off, the push towards acceptance of female ordination, and the desire for ordination, come from excessive individualism, from identity politics and from feminism as one of its foundational doctrines. Ultimately, it is identity politics that is the ground on which all these issues rest; and so many of the church's current problems arise because of the acceptance by Christians of the presuppositions of identity politics, usually without realising that's what they are doing. We are all made in the image of God. But identity politics denies that, and instead places each of us into immutable categories of oppressors and oppressed, based on race, on background, and on any other binary group-oppositions we care to devise. Its presuppositions and the theories derived from them, such as critical race theory and intersectionality, are based entirely on human-created -- and satanically imagined -- concepts of power. Virtue rests with the oppressed and the subjugated. So I suspect that it, and all the theories that arise from it, are a kind of Christian heresy, historically related to the kinds of millenarian heresies that arose between the thirteenth and seventeenth centuries. I fear that, like those heresies, identity politics will wreak bloody and destructive conflict on the societies that accept it. (Look at some of the Anabaptist revolts of the 16th century as extreme examples.) So I pray that Christians who don't see this will recognise the evil spirits that drive all this and will turn to Christ alone as the true saviour.
@Ndukacn
@Ndukacn 9 ай бұрын
Watching from Nigeria 🇳🇬
@TheDCinSC
@TheDCinSC 9 ай бұрын
I first attended SEAD in 2001 and save for 2002 have attended at least part of each Conference up to and including this year. After Calvin's shabby treatment I will not be back under the current administration.
@alanbartley8940
@alanbartley8940 9 ай бұрын
FYI Fifty years ago Michael Bruce saw feminism as the heretical driver of change. See "Heresy, Equality and the Rights of Women" especially the "Heretical Aspect of Feminism" in the Church Society Churchman magazine vol. 085 (1971) by Michael Bruce.
@archimandritegregory7730
@archimandritegregory7730 9 ай бұрын
Fun High place? Oh brother!
@PostSupAnglican
@PostSupAnglican 9 ай бұрын
What Happened To Anglican Unscripted?
@TheLincolnrailsplitt
@TheLincolnrailsplitt 9 ай бұрын
This was an engaging interview. Those who were responsible for booting Calvin out of that conference should be ashamed of themselves. It seems they either don't have a backbone or can't handle hearing a contrary opinion.
@kenbeach5021
@kenbeach5021 9 ай бұрын
In view of the spinelessness of the Anglican bishops regarding the new morality (= old immorality) we shouldn't be too critical of Calvin Robinson when he extends his critique of the cause of this to feminism and the issue of women's ordination. Doesn't seem to be off topic to me. That said he does occasionally come over as too absolutist which can grate sometimes - unless we have all become too used to nuance, which may be the road to compromise?
@d.aletadrawdy7584
@d.aletadrawdy7584 9 ай бұрын
As a South Carolina native, I am deeply embarrassed Calvin met with such hostility, but You don't even have the integrity to address his account. Shameful 😢
@annakimborahpa
@annakimborahpa 9 ай бұрын
1. What Happened to Calvin Robinson @ M.A.? Response: He got a hair cut, didn't he? 2. If Calvin was drawing a straight line from Martin Luther to drag queen story hour, I would recommend going back further to the Borgia Popes. 3. Since Kevin's co-host for this episode was from the family of Waltons, at the ending I was inspired to intone "Goodnight, Jeff-boy!"
@hazchemel
@hazchemel 9 ай бұрын
C. Robinson is correct. The Borgias never preached heresy, never invented doctrine, never trimmed Christianity down to align with their own opinions. Luther did all this.
@annakimborahpa
@annakimborahpa 9 ай бұрын
1. Pope Alexander VI was a Borgia pope. 2. From the NPR article The Vatican repudiates 'Doctrine of Discovery,' which was used to justify colonialism by Bill Chappell of March 30, 2023: Nearly 500 years after papal decrees were used to rationalize Europe's colonial conquests, the Vatican repudiated those decrees on Thursday, saying the "Doctrine of Discovery" that was used to justify snuffing out Indigenous people's culture and livelihoods is not part of the Catholic faith... The doctrine was laid out in a series of papal "bulls," or decrees; the first one was issued in 1452. They authorized colonial powers such as Spain and Portugal to seize lands and subjugate people in Africa and the "New World," as long as people on the lands were not Christians. Scholars widely note three bulls: Pope Nicholas V's Dum diversas (1452) and Romanus Pontifex (1455); and Pope Alexander VI's Inter caetera (1493). [From the NPR website /2023/03/30/1167056438/vatican-doctrine-of-discovery-colonialism-indigenous]
@soniavadnjal7553
@soniavadnjal7553 9 ай бұрын
Why didn't you invite Fr Calvin on your show, to explain himself? Is it because you are - dare I say it - c o w a r d s? Or just prefer to discuss him behind his back? You gave Mr Miller a platform to justify himself, give one to Calvin.
@Dr.DanielGardner
@Dr.DanielGardner 9 ай бұрын
You lost me a "Vaughn Roberts" was the best speaker.
@787Earl
@787Earl 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, God bless you
@stephengriffin4612
@stephengriffin4612 9 ай бұрын
Hi, I haven't been watching KZbin in months. I Pray that everything is Ok with George. Is he still on the program?
@marmeemarch7080
@marmeemarch7080 9 ай бұрын
Mr. Walton, I haven't seen you at any of the Anglican conferences I've attended over the last several years. You've missed some good ones.
@jeffwalton9636
@jeffwalton9636 9 ай бұрын
No doubt! I've attended nearly every church wide ACNA gathering since 2009, Forward in Faith, GAFCON II, III and IV, the past four New Wineskins Missionary Conferences, four Episcopal General Conventions, and roughly a bajillion diocesan synods, but that only scratches the surface. Mere Anglicanism is my absolute favorite.
@marmeemarch7080
@marmeemarch7080 9 ай бұрын
​@@jeffwalton9636maybe I'll see you at the next Forward in Faith one, then.
@denisefielding5124
@denisefielding5124 9 ай бұрын
Wow! Sounds like an amazing conference! The WORD is so much simpler for us 'little children' in an unreal world of spiritual free fall - THE WORD speaks to our Hearts as One through HIS - 'Read MY Word'. All very straight forward in LOVE and TRUTH but there is no LOVE without the Discipline of HIS TRUTH. 1 Corinthians 5.9-11 speaks plainly into one of the issues of much hierachial 'church' debate. It is a scripture of guidance obviouly much sidelined - conveniently overlooked - ?! What a travesty! Thank you for your very informative and confirming dialogues. I am just an old lady 'hanging in there' denominationally where possible and with freedom to do so or not. 'church' has become largely a Mission field to the minds of those whose task it should be to pastor as Leaders, called to build THE CHURCH without ambivalence. To build up the flocks of their Diocese !? And so to see the fruits in their communities. Jeremiah 18 verses 7 -10 is as relevant to 'churches' as to a Nation. The 'proof of the pudding is in the eating! Look what has happened in my country! Keep up your corner of balanced logic in Spirit and Truth. Logic seems to have been thrown to the wolves in 'modern' life. Thank You from this little corner of Southern Africa❤
@prolifefilm8127
@prolifefilm8127 9 ай бұрын
Predictable - no father Calvin - might have balanced the discussion.
@martinploughboy988
@martinploughboy988 8 ай бұрын
"Daniel didn't defile himself with the king's food" - there seems to me to be an equality here with those who oppose women's ordination. Women's ordinations is a following after the fashion of the World, just as eating the king's food would have been. Critical theory is the result of earlier fashions, among them feminism, so Calvin was clearly in the right to attack women's ordination, a result of feminism.
@blitzi669
@blitzi669 6 ай бұрын
"Calvin is a very nice guy, we love him, but we fear different opinions." pppffff.... weak.... Christianity Light: "Just be nice and don't upset!" RIP Anglican Church. ps: and lying about calvin robinson cancellation, just sad.
@annebell565
@annebell565 9 ай бұрын
what God appoints, He anoints ... so if He didn't appoint it, He won't anoint it ... I believe that it was the pushy femmy-nyst agenda that pretty much bullied denominations into taking on a woman pastor/priest just for the sake of it ... ministry among women & children was already not under threat, so why change it? ... I belong to a denomination that has women pastors, but seldom does a woman lead or direct other men pastors ... Iran's huge revival has often had housewives as heads of house-churches, probably because the men pastors were in prison, the same in the (massively growing) Chinese Underground Church ... God uses what is on hand - a man, a woman (eg. Deborah), a child (eg. Samuel) a crow (Elijah) or even a donkey (Balaam) ...
@davidsprouse151
@davidsprouse151 9 ай бұрын
If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!
@robmarshall956
@robmarshall956 4 ай бұрын
Luther wasn’t a antisemite Hitler was, Luther was for Jews salvation not death chamber.
@ivandinsmore6217
@ivandinsmore6217 9 ай бұрын
Your video sounds like Whatifalthist.
@pierregiraud6832
@pierregiraud6832 9 ай бұрын
The Marxist manipulation of Luther all too easily forgets that the Wittenberg theologian's ecclesial existence lies solely in the Augsburg Confession, just as Athanasius, the Cappadocians, Cyril of Alexandria, Leo the Great and Maximus the Confessor did with regard to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. As such, the Augsburg Confession-and the "sola fide"-should be understood, too, only as clarifications of the Creed, particularly its baptismal and ecclesial article, since the difficulties of its theological and Christological article were resolved by the first six ecumenical councils (325-681). This is why it's absurd to regard Luther and the "Reformation" as a substitution of subjectivism for realism in theology, since in fact they never did anything but reaffirm the millenary tradition of the Church, as demonstrated by the refrain of the Augustana: "Ecclesia apud nos docent", which always refers to the Tradition of the Catholic Church, of which Scripture is the ultimate norm and the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed the only authorized expression. Moreover, how can we be accused of subjectivism when we profess Eucharistic realism: "Hoc EST enim corpus meum"?
@butchshadwell3613
@butchshadwell3613 9 ай бұрын
How and where does one draw a line, as the church is liberalized? Is further corruption unavoidable?
@marmeemarch7080
@marmeemarch7080 9 ай бұрын
As T-Bone Burnett sang back in the 80's, we need the wild tru-u-u-uth. . . hearkening back to Chesterton's picture of Truth in his classic, Orthodoxy.😊
@caryyurk1388
@caryyurk1388 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for this special interview. It was very informative!
@dorothymccarthy4376
@dorothymccarthy4376 9 ай бұрын
Why do Americans like heavy metal music so much???
@TNFLHT
@TNFLHT 9 ай бұрын
The lyrics.
@odinsraven116
@odinsraven116 9 ай бұрын
Well this account doesnt sound much like calvins account of what happened. I would say somebody is not being quite truthful. Snd its not Calvin.
@robertwarner-ev7wp
@robertwarner-ev7wp 9 ай бұрын
Ok Luther was an "anti-semite". Were Jesus, John and Paul anti-semites? Jesus said; I know that you are Abraham’s descendants; yet you are seeking to kill Me, because My word has no place in you. I speak of the things which I have seen with My Father; therefore you also do the things which you heard from your father.” They answered and said to Him, “Abraham is our father.” Jesus said to them, “If you are Abraham’s children, do the deeds of Abraham. But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; this Abraham did not do. You are doing the deeds of your father.” They said to Him, “We were not born as a result of sexual immorality; we have one Father: God.” Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I came forth from God and am here; for I have not even come on My own, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot listen to My word. You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he tells a lie, he speaks from his own nature, because he is a liar and the father of lies. But because I say the truth, you do not believe Me. Which one of you convicts Me of sin? If I speak truth, why do you not believe Me? The one who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God.” So the Jews were saying, “Surely He will not kill Himself, will He, since He says, ‘Where I am going, you cannot come’?” And He was saying to them, “You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins.” But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowds to ask for Barabbas, and to put Jesus to death. And the governor said to them, “Which of the two do you want me to release for you?” And they said, “Barabbas.” Pilate said to them, “Then what shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?” They all said, “Crucify Him!” But he said, “Why, what evil has He done?” Yet they kept shouting all the more, saying, “Crucify Him!” Now when Pilate saw that he was accomplishing nothing, but rather that a riot was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd, saying, “I am innocent of this Man’s blood; you yourselves shall see.” And all the people replied, “His blood shall be on us and on our children!” St.Paul said; For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you also endured the same sufferings at the hands of your own countrymen, even as they did from the Jews, who both killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God, but hostile to all people, hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved; with the result that they always reach the limit of their sins. “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: The first and the last, who was dead, and has come to life, says this: ‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the slander by those who say they are Jews, and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, so that you will be tested, and you will have tribulation for ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: He who is holy, who is true, who has the key of David, who opens and no one will shut, and who shuts and no one opens, says this: ‘I know your deeds. Behold, I have put before you an open door which no one can shut, because you have a little power, and have followed My word, and have not denied My name. Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie-I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and make them know that I have loved you. So Jesus called "the Jews" out as children of the devil and the synagogue of satan. Have the Jews that deny Christ these days somehow become better? I think "the Jews" are showing their true colors in Gaza and the fools in the evangelical christian churches are going to support them no matter what, up to and including nuclear war. Because that will fulfill "prophecy".
@mrbaker7443
@mrbaker7443 9 ай бұрын
I’m orf to bed, what what?
@matthewhartt5887
@matthewhartt5887 9 ай бұрын
Where is Fr Conger?
@annakimborahpa
@annakimborahpa 9 ай бұрын
With his 'Congergation'?
@TheHappyburro13
@TheHappyburro13 9 ай бұрын
Awesome show! Thank you for all that you do!
@nenawise4994
@nenawise4994 8 ай бұрын
1980 GOP debate
@johnhudghton3535
@johnhudghton3535 9 ай бұрын
What an interesting report. Thank you.
@Mark_Dyer
@Mark_Dyer 9 ай бұрын
KEVIN: Thank you for this wonderful post. The analysis is well-provided, and easy to understand. Despite his Jew-hatred, Martin Luther will always be one of this Christian's heroes, too. He rid us of the ghastly 'CHURCHIANITY' of the continuing Roman Empire, we know as the Roman Catholic Church.
@annakimborahpa
@annakimborahpa 9 ай бұрын
Are you sympathetic to Martin Luther's final work Against the Roman Papacy, an Institution of the Devil published one year before his death in 1546 where he personally addressed the Pope, the Catholic Bishop of Rome with these words? "I would not dream of judging or punishing you, except to say that you were born from the behind of the devil, are full of devils, lies, blasphemy, and idolatry; are the instigator of these things, God’s enemy, Antichrist, desolater of Christendom, and steward of Sodom." [From Against the Roman Papacy, an Institution of the Devil, pg. 363 of Luther’s Works, Vol. 41]
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q
@StPetersAnglicanChurch-j3q 9 ай бұрын
Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
@christopherlittle7305
@christopherlittle7305 9 ай бұрын
"He rid us of the ghastly 'CHURCHIANITY' of the continuing Roman Empire, we know as the Roman Catholic Church." That one wins the Howler of the Day Award.
@kenbeach5021
@kenbeach5021 9 ай бұрын
This is an excellent reply to those, of whom one gets rather tired, who want us to join the 'one true Holy and Catholic Church that Jesus founded', unlike the C of E and the tyrant Henry VIII ..., whilst ignoring their own outfit was just as much a political creation desiring a kingdom somewhat more of this world, and reincorporating much obsolete OT practice. I don't think the reformers went far enough in ditching centuries of unbiblical traditions and accretions that subsisted in medieval Catholicism!
@christopherlittle7305
@christopherlittle7305 9 ай бұрын
@@kenbeach5021 Rubbish.
@rickymccarl
@rickymccarl 9 ай бұрын
Luther wasn't an antisemite
@myleshagar9722
@myleshagar9722 9 ай бұрын
Read some of what he wrote and you will find opposite.
@silveriorebelo2920
@silveriorebelo2920 9 ай бұрын
he was a bigoted anti-Jewish...
@MichaelReilly-r7h
@MichaelReilly-r7h 9 ай бұрын
HIS WRITINGS PROVE OTHERWISE
@annakimborahpa
@annakimborahpa 9 ай бұрын
1. Three years before he died Martin Luther published his treatise Against The Jews And Their Lies in 1543. 2. The Nazis/Third Reich quoted extensively from Luther's work to justify their persecution of Jews in Germany and later throughout Europe. 3. Since the end of World War II and the Holocaust, Lutheran church bodies worldwide have condemned Luther's antisemitism and distanced themselves from his writings. 4. My intuition is that Luther in his final years was suffering from an alcoholism-induced dementia that mitigated the moral culpability for his later writings, which included his 1545 pamphlet Against the Roman Papacy, An Institution Of The Devil.
@marmeemarch7080
@marmeemarch7080 9 ай бұрын
Isn't this *Fr.* Ricky McCarl? Sir, how can you make such an assertion?
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