Angola Campaign: DAY 1 Attack On Angolan Airfield | DCS WORLD

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[@daa774]

Those knife range dogfights with the 21s were the best yet guys, Had me on the edge of my seat the whole time

[@PaletoB]

Yea, way better than BVR 😊

[@grimreapers]

Why F-5 perform so bad at that alt??

[@tomdtom5407]

@@grimreapers F-5 is underpowered, don"t use the same tactics you use with Viper, Hornet or Tomcat. Try scissors next time ( and eject your centerline tank, better eject with no fuel than dead).

[@domdecoco5915]

Honestly my favorite part was to watch mig-21s turn and burn dogfight. Usually they’re just used as the fodder against gen 4 aircraft in most vids, so it’s great to see them used to their full potential

[@loophunter5406]

Hi Cap. I’m from Angola 🇦🇴 and I’m proud that you have made a video about a peace of history of my country.

[@grimreapers]

Angola rocks! :)

[@lohrtom]

Are you guys hungry after missing a meal? Because those MIGs ate your lunch.

[@anulovlos]

That dogfight was awesome, even if you were sorely, hopelessly outnumbered.

[@mellusk9194]

The bulge on the tank barrels are fume extractors, not a supressor/muzzle brake :-)

[@WildWestRaider]

On the American tank, the bulge is indeed an extractor. That model T-55 however, lacks this component, and has a muzzle brake for flash suppression/dispersion.

[@mellusk9194]

@@WildWestRaider I think that's the case with the T-54, but the T-55 did indeed have an extractor eventually.

[@mellusk9194]

Looks like I was sorta half-wrong. :-). The T-54A and B had this according to Wikipedia: "Originally, this had a small muzzle counter-weight, which was later replaced with a fume extractor."

[@RossOneEyed]

As a former tanker, we called them "bore evacuators". I was a tanker during the Cold War, so we used M60A1 (and the M60A2, but we never called it the "Starship").

[@Midnight-Bruu]

14:10 "God Damn South Africans" made me feel quilt

[@showtime112]

I certainly love these unknown conflicts of the 20th century. But this one might have waited a bit. Mirage F1 and MiG-23 are both under development in DCS so in some not so distant future, there will be a chance to do this more accurately.

[@grimreapers]

Fed up of waiting, we'll just re-do them when we get the planes.

[@romakrelian]

I can remember waiting for the Tomcat. It was a painful experience.

[@hanswolfgangmercer]

Those'll both be a long wait. One is being done by RAZBAM, so that'll take forever. The F-1 is being worked on by an absolutely tiny (if extremely talented) team so I expect that will also take a very long time.

[@E_Stuff]

@@grimreapers the Mirage f 1 has been announced, not the mig 23 yet though

[@Emperorvalse]

I loved this mission. AS Cap said this looked like classic GR. Also hats off to you Cap because there was some fantastic camera work in this video.

[@grimreapers]

thxx

[@jasonmorahan7450]

More very entertaining uploads by GR, thanks guys! Some real nail biting moments there, I think we all got drawn right into the action here. Looking at photos of Cuban aircraft at the time I can say they definitely had MiG23MF exports, which is equivalent to the Soviet version and not the downgraded 23MS however this doesn't necessarily mean they had R23 missiles available for whatever reason. They also had the MiG23B series, which looks just like a MiG27 but has the engine and variable intakes of the MiG23M/MF so retains the MiG23 high altitude performance. The MiG27 has an engine with a simplified afterburner and redesigned inlets which are not variable geometry for its low altitude strike role, but this is not the version Cuba had, they had the much more powerful 23B which, with stores jettisoned would be next to impossible to catch on the run. It's just surprising to me since it shows just how close the relationship between Cuba and Moscow really was, this was really their top shelf equipment they were handing over, shy of the PVO best of the best. Cuba also had a ton of MiG21bis, more numbers than the 23MF and 23B which would've been their pride and joy and my guess would be sparingly used, sort of like MiG29 in Saddam's Iraqi air force with only the best pilots given those and mostly older models flown by everyone else, which also means if you see a swing wing MiG there's an undoubtedly well trained pilot in it. My guess is that like the way Iraqis used their MiG29 in conjunction with groups of MiG23 as lead ships the Cubans probably used their MiG23 in the same way with groups of MiG21, eg. Iraqis would have one MiG29 leading a flight of 4 MiG23 in the Soviet trained method of using PVO leads (1-4 MiG25 or Su15) together with flights of Frontal Aviation (4-24 MiG23M) essentially as controller aircraft; or in another case Iraqis would have 2-4 MiG29 come hot and turn cold on a flank to distract a Coalition strike escort from a larger group of 4-8 MiG23 coming farther out on the other side which were the actual engagement force. Worth mentioning however the 23ML/D we have modelled is more advanced than the 23M/MF with more powerful engine, lighter weight, some airframe modifications, updated fire control set, newer radar and updated missiles and according to Soviet appraisal is capable of tangling with the early F16 production series where the older 23M really wasn't, so if we're to believe that then the MLD in game is far more capable than the MF the Cubans had, which is still significantly superior to the 21bis and 23MS you'd expect to see in Soviet friendlies as opposed to satellites. With that in mind I think it's quite fair to use M2000C as a substitute for MF1 as well as Cheetah from the perspective of bridging the gap between MiG23MF and MiG23MLD performance, especially considering that aside from slightly newer and slightly better equipped avionics and defence systems the Mirage F1 was regarded as comparable to the Cheetah/Kfir in terms of speed/handling. And whilst the F5E is a fair representative of the Mirage III at lower altitudes it certainly isn't when going vertical and the Mirage III fleet was taken offline for tear down reconstruction during the Cheetah program at the time of the conflict, with the F1 carrying the weight of SAAF fighter forces. If doing more missions for this conflict my vote is for BluFor to get M2000C rather than F5E as a reasonable representation of Mirage F1, there shouldn't be any Mirage III available at the time whilst being reconstructed as Cheetahs and the 23MLD is superior to the 23MF the Cubans had anyway so it seems a fairer representation. Going by photos however it certainly does appear the MiG21bis far outnumbered the MiG23 in Cuban service and was the main fighter type of the day, but the 23 was pride of the air force certainly. The Cubans also received a large shipment of SA3 SAM systems to cover their offensive at that time so it's not like things are going to get any easier. An interesting note about the F5E is the reason it was chosen as the aggressor aircraft for the US: it was found of all fighters available to the US it most closely matched later versions of the MiG21 at lower altitudes in all respects of performance, obviously the MiG had superior speed at higher altitudes but at BFM training regimes it was virtually identical. But my impression is they were talking under 12,000ft and you guys had some serious elevation in the combat area to begin with didn't you? I don't know at what altitude the F5 degrades significantly to the MiG21, just that all the reading material cites their equivalence at low altitude.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks Jason!

[@romakrelian]

*rolls tongue* chapter-r-r one. *licks finger and turns page*

[@jameshewitt8828]

That Mig 21 pass in slow mo was incredible, I hope the F5 pilot flipped him the bird

[@tombstone4362]

The slow-mo Matrix shots are fantastic.

[@cf453]

Those slow mo's were epic.

[@daa774]

That fly in at 38:20 is Hype. Seriously gave me chills.

[@teawizard]

That harrier making it over the runway and not dropping the bombs made me die inside. One of the best GR vids, suspense just carries on!!

[@ThePaulv12]

Better than anything on the telly. I was so excited I could hardly contain myself..

[@OldManOnTrak]

True fact - from Sept 1985 to early 1986, I was stationed in Windhoek, Namibia in the SA Medical services, supplying the army and air force bases in northern Namibia (or South West Africa) as it used to be called) with medical supplies. I left the service in 1987 and we never heard of these battles. Given what we heard about the land engagements, though, we wouldn't have been surprised.

[@vlermuis2416]

@Quiller95 : Tampax Tiffy ;) ...before your time: SAAF Maj. Rankin zapped MIG21 one each in 81 & 82 . In 1987 F1s in air battle with Mig23 at Cuita, but lost their advantage and had to return.

[@romakrelian]

Ah, speaking of old fashioned GR, I’m remembering a time when you guys would do CAP in F-15s and SEAD with sidearms. Good times.

[@grimreapers]

Those were indeed the days.

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

No Cheetahs were used in Angola, only Mirage F1's, Mirage III's, Canberra's and Impala's.

[@magnusjansevanvuuren6314]

And the good old Buc

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

@Hendrick van Tonder and the Buc. How could I forget that?!

[@starturtle5135]

Always love me some GR bickering just before dawn!

[@Ghareeban]

Really enjoyable. Beautiful dogfights from both the F5s and the Migs!! Keep up the good work.

[@halodesolate]

Man that was some of the best dogfighting action I’ve seen in a long time great work guys keep up the great work and great content!!!!

[@Shrike200]

I work with quite a few South African pilots who flew F1s during this conflict. Bloody vlamgatte! But nice to hear the stories...2 X guns kills, with original camera film to prove it.

[@grimreapers]

awesome!

[@sterby1]

Damn those MiG 28s look tight!

[@thomasrouse3826]

Geez, how many Migs were programmed into that mission? It looked like the whole Cuban Air Force deployed to Angola! It’s still BS that the F-5 can only carry 2 sidewinders. That makes it completely unsuitable for CAP work.

[@grimreapers]

Yeh that was a COMPLETE nightmare, but fun. The migs spawned infinitely so we just took too long.

[@nelson8527]

Awesome dogfights guys, little old school never hurt anyone lol.

[@matthewhughes9947]

Absolutely fantastic mission, real nail biter at times. Definitely needs some balance but I certainly see this becoming a truly excellent campaign

[@craigcarter9513]

Great dogfights from the underpowered F5s but frustrating attack from the Harriers.

[@jts0221]

This was my favorite vid so far, what a dogfight damn!

[@Galm1]

34:01 That's a cool shot.

[@PaletoB]

Or the shot at 55:47

[@TheSilmarallion]

Angolan Allies was called UNITA

[@SGTJackMorgan]

Amazing video! And as always Cap and Tail doing some of that real pilot shit to try and deal with that Mig-21, a fantastic fight.

[@grimreapers]

Tough fight that one...

[@veespike]

1:06:14 well, at least the firefighters were right there to help with the rescue efforts.

[@yujacky8955]

1:10:50~1:10:52 seconds, At present, Iran has exactly 12 MIG-23s surrendered from Iraq, but due of the shortage of parts, these former Iraqi MIG-23s, which were later painted with the Iranian Air Force emblem, it has been sealed and stored since 1994. It seems that these original Iraqi Air Force MIG-23 fleets received, sealed and used by Iran, in this game plot, "make the best use of everything"! It seems that the Red Army camp in this new version of the Angolan Civil War, it's even more exciting after Iran joins!

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

There is an interesting, and unbiased, article in The Aviation Geek Club dated 31 October 2018.

[@iphoneupdate]

my uncle was mig 21 pilot during the engagement, enjoyed this.

[@grimreapers]

cool

[@AdamPoniatowski]

my foster father's brother was KIA by AA in the angola border war. He had rare epilepsy attacks, and thought I was his brother coming back from the war... hence that was a traumatic experience for him

[@bigskydude8068]

Man, that was brutal lol....

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

SADF used Centurion tanks, called Olifant (Elephant). Former SADF/SANDF major btw.

[@grimreapers]

Thanks reinhardt!

[@reinhardtrossouw1879]

I downloaded DCS nearly two years ago, but had an i3 system and it really struggled with the game. Got an i5 recently, 16gb ram and a 1070ti, now I need to download the game again. I only have a joystick, kb and mouse, and at last attempt I had to start all my flights in the air - could not cold start planes on the ground. Settings maybe? And yes.....I suck at this game.

[@montys420-]

They were awesome dogfights with the 21's

[@thegrizz9994]

epic DF CAp..n tail..well done

[@OBOGS]

Wouldn't it be cool if they did a WW2 ESC campaign but with modern jets and missile (or though, if you want to do it with just guns you go for it)?

[@MyFizzypop]

dog fights wow need more like that great game play

[@yjwrangler7819]

That 53ish whatever minute mark.....Cap.....that was nice

[@Disc0rd83]

nice fly. With F-5, you can uncage missile, you would use it to improve your shoots... And against Mig-21, flying low and turning hard could be a good solution : if the MIG wants to follow, it have to be pretty slow, causing an engine outburn...near the floor, it is deadly.

[@grimreapers]

I can't get uncage to work for some reason...

[@PHILMKD95]

Those are some fine Cuban Cigars.

[@rileyclarke8784]

ayyy new campaign

[@jameshewitt8828]

Thats a fume extractor on the barrel of a MBT

[@HauntedXXXPancake]

In Soviet plane, Cuban smokes youuu :P

[@grimreapers]

lol

[@Yewbzee]

27:03 "Ive got a horrible feeling Ive forgot to turn something on". Lol. Not the kind of comment you want to hear from your wingman!!

[@grimreapers]

lols

[@gafek67]

How many errors in such a short briefing! There are multiple reliable sources about this conflict, covering the air battles. Among them several books by Brigadier Dick Lord. such as Vlamgat, etc. The Cubans didn't just send "advisors" (that was their propaganda) - they had over 50,000 troops in the country by 1987 in several divisional formations. The Cheetah aircraft were not used in the conflict at all as they were not yet operational. Aircraft involved were F1A/CZ's, Impala 2's and Buccaneers with Canberras/Mirage IIIR's doing PR work. Several MiGs and Mi-8's were shot down, the South Africans lost an F1 with another written off in a crash landing at Rundu, leaving the pilot paralyzed by the ejection seat firing when it ran off the runway after losing all hydraulics from battle damage. Both were struck by SAMs. The crash-landed aircraft was later rebuilt. Major Ed Every of the SAAF got two of the MiGs in two separate engagements. The Angolans and Cubans had very dense SAM networks including SA-3/6 and -8 and volumes of AAA. One of the latter launcher and radar vehicles was captured by the South African Army. The tank shown here allegedly used by the SA Army is incorrect. They used rebuilt Centurion tanks and locally built AFV's. The object referred to on the end of the barrel of the tank is not a silencer or a muzzle brake, it is a gas extractor. A muzzle brake 2/3 of the way down the barrel would hardly work very well.... The battle at Cuito Cunevale was centered around the town itself which sat on a river which divided a huge swathe of territory in two. In the town was a bridge which was a key feature to the battleground. The Angolans and Cubans were outfought here, though in typical fashion, claimed victory as the South Africans eventually withdrew, losing three tanks in a minefield. The SAAF was reticent to engage the Cubans more aggressively in the air as they could not replace lost aircraft, of which they had few to begin with. Despite this, every air-to air meeting that did take place ended in a SAAF victory. No SAAF aircraft were lost in Air-to-Air engagements. The SAAF was mainly limited by the SAM threat. Combat losses besides the F1' described already included an Impala 2 (Macchi MB326), an AM-3C spotter aircraft, a Puma and at least one Allouette III the latter two to AAA. There are some fascinating books on the conflict, on land and sea launched special forces, (4 Recce) the famous 32 Battalion as well as the SAAF operations. Despite the policies of the government the SADF was one of the most racially integrated organizations in the country. Opponents on the battlefield were not judged by their race, but by their performance. Angolan FAPLA troops usually performed poorly, SWAPO guerrillas were respected as were most of the Cuban units who fought the SADF. The SADF observed an extremely professional attitude to their recording of events and operations. There is no "bias". Perhaps a point of view - but that is common to every military. Incidentally, the Cuban general Arnoldo Ochoa, who was the theatre commander and respected by the SADF was returned to Cuba shortly after the Battle of Cuito Cunevale and was executed in July 1989 on charges of "corruption".

[@jakeslouw3416]

You could / should have used the Israeli Kfir if you ever get that in DCS: the SAAF and the IAI were sharing technology at the time.

[@yujacky8955]

The best adventure new theme-the new version of the Angolan Civil War ! In terms of future enemy forces, Except for the Angolan military and Cuban mercenaries, Is it possible to join some of the mercenary troops & air force of the CCP, North Korea, and Russia? Although it is a bit embarrassing for you and everyone.

[@Graham_lee]

Why is it so hard to do the bombing?

[@alidigitaly]

Push push push...are there babies coming?

[@05Hogsrule]

you now know the tendencies and capabilities of Mig-21 more. Respect it when you think YOUR aircraft is sleeker. 21 is a capable aircraft....and you can not go vertical against it and hope to win...in that thing! How can you call someone else a douche-bag because of a crash against a Harrier...when you had your ass handed to you by a Mig-2-One! :)))

[@PHILMKD95]

47:45

[@stephenfowler4115]

The F-86 should have the ability to use the first versions of the sidewinder.

[@GR_Whistler]

GAR-8s, they're in-game but woefully horrid tracking

[@One_Piloty_Boy]

I had them, and I was about to fire on a damaged MiG-23, however i was blasted by a MiG-21 head on. XD

[@magicsharkwizard4577]

Cant believe the M2000s didn't do better with their nice radar/rwr. Looks like SuperCap has to train his minions better.

[@grimreapers]

Mirages had tech probs in this one, wasn't their fault.

[@GR_Whistler]

Also no Fox-1s to take advantage of the radar

[@lenn55]

Bombing is hard. haha

[@sergeantliangplays]

Hi Cap, how can you make custom writing and painting on liveries?

[@grimreapers]

got a vid, search "grim reapers custom liveries" or similar

[@sergeantliangplays]

@@grimreapers oh thx very much, BTW your vids are very detailed and good

[@Roofedhobo]

Didnt give the 21's guns? none of them took shots except with missiles

[@grimreapers]

No idea, unlikely they didn;t have guns though.

[@marczionts6268]

I love your missions and vids, would love to join you guys on missions where can I join you group

[@grimreapers]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJDXg2p-bM2oa9E

[@iatranger]

Think the harrier pilot's should get some lessons cap 🤣

[@grimreapers]

yup

[@kodefashmodefa]

Just me or did cap not extend the nose wheel on takeoff?

[@grimreapers]

Ah, I knew I forgot something! x

[@kodefashmodefa]

Grim Reapers and that’s why you couldn’t shake the 21. Your tiger never got a chance to stretch its leg.

[@Retrocidal]

always such good DCS i wish i could get into this i have add adhd etc and its hard sometimes but i should try

[@voradfils]

how unlucky. you tried so hard but doing jiggly wigglies with the throttle didn't pay off. action was comical, but the ludicrous ai kind of made it into a farce

[@OBOGS]

Also, how do you get the replays on the server?

[@grimreapers]

Got a vid somewhere try "grim reapers how to make a vid"

[@RichKennedyIII]

Is jet wash simulated in DCS?

[@Shrike200]

Wake turbulence is (if thats what you meant), but jet blast is not. Wake turbulence is an option, and may not be selected on all servers.

[@grimreapers]

Yeh but we turn it off in our big games because it causes performance issues.

[@BlueBaron3x7]

Mission impossible :(

[@johndo3930]

I fought in that war and today they claim the SADF lost that battle and FAPLA won and the SADF got brought on their knees ha ha HA here are the numbers CUBA/FAPLA LOSSES SADF losses Tanks destroyed: 94 3 Troop carriers destroyed: 100 5 Logistical vehicles destroyed: 389 1 Soldiers killed: 4 785 31 does that look is the SADF lost?

[@grimreapers]

Thanks John

[@Magilla_Gorilla7.62x39]

lol what a mess.

[@MrAzulDos]

Wow Gents! I had not looked on the page in a while. I saw Angola but did not think this was from my question! A pleasant day before birthday surprise (09/10). I am about to check it out but I hate war but it is a reality and I love the history of things. I love you tried your best to match up similar aircraft and mapped out what the opposing forces could have been seeing at this time. From the comments it seems as if this one will be epic. Planning on watching in between work duties right now! P.S. you have me spoiled now I will look for you to maybe take the Cuba/D.R. challenge of Operation Pico 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYnSo2BthJ2WfrM

[@romakrelian]

Terrible mission design. First, there seems to be infinite fighters, then there is an IR sam location at the target. Like, wtf?

[@grimreapers]

Yup imposs mission. Fun tho.

[@magictoffee7066]

Fourth comment jay

[@slickbomb]

This has to be the worst flying I've seen from GR in ages....

[@BigSmartArmed]

what's the point flying against AI. Lame.