ANGRY & AGGRESSIVE FARMER RAGES AT BIKERS

[@harryhaydon8450]

Respectfully, I don't agree with many of the comments on here. I've ridden trails in the UK for decades, dating back to the days of RUPPS, and have done numerous MCC Trials etc, but sorry guys, whilst the farmer did make a drama about not much, I don't think you were blameless. You weren't racing, but you were hardly pottering along either. If there is a farm around, or a sensitive area, why not take it slowly. When he 'confronted' you, wouldn't it also have been better to switch of your engines, takes your lids off, get off the bikes & just try to take the steam out of things. In the PR battle re land access, t's not the biking community that need persuading. Not sure this video does bikers many favours.

[@andrewgrimwood8453]

Totally agree Harry. I think the farmer would’ve had a completely different reaction if the lads slowed right down whilst passing the walkers and cut their engines by his farm to have a natter with him.

[@Attiph]

Nah, fuck him - sick of dealing with idiots like this, he won't change his mind and I'm certainly not stopping 5 times a day to educate the untrainable.

[@mikepagani6996]

It’s a public road no different to a car going down it and the speed limit is 60mph of which he was only doing 35-40mph the farmer has no say and shouldn’t have even bothered the man because he was doing nothing wrong

[@boredmalcontent]

@@mikepagani6996 Bollocks

[@highlandendurorider6519]

Some people just hate bikes and people having fun

[@EnduroTravelR]

👌🏼

[@stonemarten1400]

I’m a biker myself and all for having fun, but I’m also sympathetic with the farmer and other country folks who object to the noise, disturbance and rutting of paths caused by these machines. I agree though that the Enduro boys were trying to be responsible and calm in this situation.

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼

[@Kieran-m7f]

Private land I'm sure you would love bikes and people tearing up Ur grass and land? He hasn't got a problem with people having fun it's the fact they are on his turf u melt

[@WillysPerformanceCycleCtr]

You obeyed the golden rule, if the gate is closed, then close it when you pass thru. Gates open, then leave it open. You were riding very responsible and your exhaust is not too loud. The farmer man must have just been having a bad day. Good of you to post this one. Thanks and be careful out there!

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks buddy 🤘🏼

[@secondchance4498]

I'm entering the lions den here, but I'll give it from the farmers point of view (I was a farmer and ride enduro). The by-ways come from a forgotten time, they were there as an agreement between landowners to allow each others staff to cross the neighbours land to get to their land for work.....they're 4ft wide because that's the width of two people either side of a coffin. There was no thought given to motocross etc when the rights were given, so the rights are not fit for purpose. I do see it from either side, but from the farmers point of view, you are given right to THEIR land....their HOME, because of a right/law that was put into place for very different reasons. Politically it's a non starter. There are few farmers and many more dog walkers/bikers so is left in place for no reason other than votes (or lack there of) for dog walkers etc. Remember, you are given rights to someones home because of an old law misused. I have been where you were and have been annoyed with farmers myself not being respectful. You closed the gates and wasnt being reckless.......however, the farmers on the losing end of this type of right/law.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Haha brave comment here 😂. No in all seriousness, can completely understand what you mean and what your saying, but as the farmer like you said the byway has always been there so choosing to live there you have to deal with what comes with it. It’s like buying a house next to a school and asking the kids not to play at lunch because they are too noisy, or living near an airport and asking planes not to fly... You can’t expect others to stop or think that you can be abusive towards others just because you don’t like it...

[@theworldsbonkers]

Turn tables I’m looking from a road riders point of view and a cyclists point of view of which I am both the selfish farmers that think it’s acceptable to leave half there field on the road also fly up and down single country roads with no beacons and non roadworthy trailers flinging mud everywhere.

[@willsbackgardenwildlife3402]

So all public rights of way should be closed? Do you believe we should all be confined to little squares, no angry just slightly shocked

[@mikepagani6996]

A byway is exactly that in todays age a public byway can be used by anybody provided they have the right documents it’s public and owned by the council and considered a public road regardless so u lot have no standing he was. Polite and land owners should know better

[@airindiana]

Prob is with that way of approach. Regardless of how it started hundreds of years ago, no farmer alive today was around during the inception of those paths, their land wasn’t modified during the creation of the byeways only to find people changing the law under their feet. That would be one thing. Any farmer today inherited/bought the land with those structures in place for hundreds of years along with what that legally means today, in todays world and who was using that right of way before the farmer came along and who can continue accessing it.

[@richardpeel6056]

I hate motorbikes especially those without number plates because in an accident they'll hit and run and because they get into my local public open space which is motor vehicle free and dig up the grass down to the chalk. I thought I had you when you left the first gate open but you dismounted and shut it. You've got number plates and your using a byeway open to all traffic so you have a right of way and the speed limit is 50mph. You were traveling at around 20mph, you hand good visability and reaction time ahead of you, I didn't see any animals and there were none loose on the route. On a long gentle downhill in dry conditions I can do 20 mph on a bridleway on a good mountainbike, so I can't complain about your vehicle handling. The farmer had a genuine concern for his animals but he did not have the basis for a complaint or a reason to lose his temper. I notice you withdrew without threatening him or riding motorbikes straight at him. You did everything right which means that I'd have to coexist with you if our paths crossed in the countryside. There are however sunken footpaths on the North Downs that are being destroyed by irresponsible motorbike and quad bike use, they are cutting into the chalk and reshaping tracks that have been there for thousands of years. As a walker I don't want a countryside full of anti motorbike barriers and motorbike prosecution warning signs.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah it’s just a same people like this tar us all with the same brush 🤷‍♂️. We all have to learn to share and bikes are allowed on byways, so he hasn’t got a leg to stand on with regards to his behaviour. I just think he is lucky to have bumped into us and not some other bike riders who wouldn’t have taken so kindly being spoken to like that.

[@davidrobinson4118]

Those number plates are not legal.

[@richardpeel6056]

@@davidrobinson4118Watching the video again the motor bikers don't like it when the farmer photographs their number plates. The blue no. 7 motor bike has his number plate facing upwards so it cannot be read. Since this video there has been a massive outbreak in the use of motorbikes without number plates on public footpaths and public open spaces in Kent. The motor bikers are systematically destroying anti vehicle gates to access property they should not be in. The motor bikers will threaten or attack anyone the photographs or objects to them. There has been a lot of rain through this winter and the surfaces of public footpaths are being turned into swamps by the motorbikes, trees are dying because motorbikes are riding both sides of them. At the moment the sheep and cows are pregnant, motorbikes going near farm animals will cause miscarriages. Some of the motor bikers express their true selves by wearing WW2 NAZI helmets! Sadly Kent Police are a bunch of incompetent fools who arrest First Aiders instead of hit and run drivers and we can expect the situation to become worse and walkers will be run down and left to bleed out.

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

Luckily I’ve never had an issue. Like you said, I’m also very respectful and keen to paint the sport in a good light when I meet people on the trails, I’ll stop and switch off if I come across dog walkers, etc. That said, if I’m not accorded the same respect in return then it’s up to them, they can either put up or shut up.

[@EnduroTravelR]

With you all the way 🤘🏼

[@ukbiker1631]

Around here (Hampshire) I have never yet encountered anything like that. One thing you do have to be aware of is that your bike may sound faster than it actually is because you are in a low gear so lots of revs but low actual speed. I couldnt see what his issue was though. You were nowhere near pedestrians and I didnt see any livestock either.

[@pv6304]

It seems like many of the trails you are riding cut through Farms and Private Land. Hence all the gates. Being from a Farming background I can understand his point of view, though his attitude may need a little adjustment. Riding respectfully as best you can will only get you so far. Maybe try and start up a dialog with him letting him know when your coming through and just back it completely down until you are well away from his place.

[@diggerdave.6587]

Once you start doing that it will lead to everybody demanding you call them prior to coming through, the end result....you have to call a load of people to appease them. Also routes are not always planned with military precision and diversions are commonplace.

[@project-overland]

Was the whole video on boats and byeways?

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah

[@project-overland]

@@EnduroTravelR well feck him then lol

[@pv6304]

@@diggerdave.6587 You'll catch more Bee's with a little Honey than you will with Vinegar. You can only try, and if it doesn't work than at least you know where you stand.

[@damenfryer172]

Get people like this on the trails over here all the time man. You boys handled the situation well in my opinion.

[@EnduroTravelR]

🙌🏻

[@andrewspence7635]

He should of really been knocked out , some people love trouble.

[@Team_Banchamek]

Not being funny but they weren’t really on trails, they where cutting through private fields loln

[@EnduroTravelR]

It’s a legal byway, so we were not cutting through private trails at all.

[@mikepagani6996]

@@Team_Banchamek a byway is classed as a public road so as long as he got tax insurance ect it’s just like riding on any other road perfectly legal

[@John-rg6kt]

Hey how do you find all your riding spots?

[@EnduroTravelR]

To be honest a lot of the good pay and play days are word of mouth or seeing stuff on Facebook groups. Also just do a lot of exploring in different areas and finding a local guide or someone who knows the area to show you around. The enduro community is awesome and there is always someone who is happy to help out. 🤘🏼

[@ukbiker1631]

Try an OS map of the area you want to ride in. Then cross reference it with the local council's online definitive map.

[@BRH_SALES]

Going flat out,,,, he must be used to watching hedgehog racing 😂 😂 😂. Typical farmer 😂

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@russcattell955i]

"Oi townies, get orf my land" familiar attitude in merry ole England.

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@billienomates1606]

I sympathize with the farmer and his live stock. 5 mph max speed green lanes. The more I watch your videos the more I realise why people get upset when you appear in their vicinity.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Your wrong the speed limit is 60mph 🙈

[@iangrimshaw1]

@@EnduroTravelR Looks like you have a problem then. Most advice is 15mph max. I'd guess you were well over that a lot of the time on a BOAT that had lots of twists and turns I don't think you realise how startling a 2T bike bike can be when your giving it some in low gears.

[@EnduroTravelR]

The speed limit is 60mph and that is what it is 🤷‍♂️ The noise of a 2T in the low gears is surely a good thing. Any noise warns people that you are coming. Don’t get me wrong I’m not for hacking down the lanes at silly speeds and we definitely arnt in this one, but im not going to drive 15mph just incase there is someone walking on a byway. You don’t get people going onto the roads and expecting cars to drive 15mph on a 60mph road because there might be a horse and carriage.

[@iangrimshaw1]

@@EnduroTravelR I still think you are approaching this very much from the idea that you can ride more or less as you would on a fully tarmacked and maintained road. I'm not disputing the fact of a 60mph limit but all sensible guidance advises somewhere between walking pace and maybe a bit above 20 on a wide open long moorland Byway. The idea that a noisy 2T is a good thing would probably be challenged by any of the other Byway users and could easily be a significant contributor to the closure of the Byway to us.

[@EnduroTravelR]

I’m definitely not approaching it as though it is a tarmacked road. If it was a tarmacked road I would in fact be doing 60mph or close to. As you can see in the video we are doing nowhere near that speed. Haha the 2T’s definitely arnt the problem with noise and byways being shut down. If you had ever actually heard a 2T vs a 4T you’d understand the difference in noise and how silly that remark is. You can’t do anything in the UK without someone complaining and if the walkers really do have an issue I’d advise them to go and find a walking trail. There are a shed load more of them than byways so stop spoiling others fun just because you choose to walk on a byway 🤷‍♂️

[@Bw-210]

what camera do you use mate and wat settings?

[@EnduroTravelR]

Use a GoPro hero 8 and film at 2.6k at super wide i think! 🤙🏼

[@Dwainpipe21]

Most if not all of this crap will over the next few years disappear as we move to electric bikes as the vast majority of complaints and even the knowledge that you are there or have been there are connected with noise nothing else .once we are all electric they won't even know we exist for the most part .

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah agree with you on this one!

[@mcrappergee9427]

The local farmer in my area rams you off with his jeep you're lucky lol

[@EnduroTravelR]

Ohhhh wow! 😳

[@6Twisted]

Some people will complain whatever you do. They won't be happy until all byways are closed and then they'll complain that they're overgrown 🤣

[@EnduroTravelR]

Haha and then they will complain that bikers are riding illegally, even though there are no legal places to ride any more 🤣

[@Jonathan-L]

That farmer has been watching too many Ronnie Pickering videos. And on top of that, he's got more issues than Marvel Comics have :)

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤣🤣🤣

[@dirtbikelunatic]

Hey! Would it be okay if we use it in compilation? And on other DBL social networks? Full credited of course

[@EnduroTravelR]

No

[@dirtbikelunatic]

@@EnduroTravelR No worries mate, thank you for responding :) Ride safe

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼

[@billybull7419]

@@EnduroTravelR hahaha

[@Terry-Tibbs]

@@EnduroTravelR They are using your vid now

[@gun_pawn]

😂😂the best bit is when it's in fast forward 😂😂🤣

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@thra5herxb12s]

I've not had a single experience like this in over 30 years of byway riding. I see a few sour faces from time to time though, and recently pointed out to a couple that 1 metre from the byway is a footpath with better views.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Count yourself lucky. Happens far too much on the byways around us. Everyone seems to hate bikes.

[@peter6782]

One one rule mate never tell anyone to calm down!

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤣

[@originalforgery]

@@EnduroTravelR and there's that disrespect the farmer was on about......

[@davedavis7589]

The farmer is right - the 3 of you riding loke total trossers - what if a family with small children were walking down the paths ??

[@EnduroTravelR]

They are byways (ie legal roads to ride). If a family were walking down there, they should be aware that motor vehicles could be coming down there and you can clearly tell the slow speed we were going we would just stop 🙈

[@ifindoubtbailout70]

I'm curious🤔was that lane marked as a legal byway or bridleway?

[@EnduroTravelR]

It’s a Legal byway.

[@ifindoubtbailout70]

@@EnduroTravelR in that case then 'FECKIN FARMERS'🤣😂

[@MotoMadness]

Hey ETR, would it be OK to feature your clip in a moto edit soon? It would be credited in the description and comments sections. Thanks, MM

[@EnduroTravelR]

No thanks man!

[@MotoMadness]

@@EnduroTravelR That's cool. Happy brappin

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼

[@ronpranglen5287]

Not exactly pottering along , but then if you're unattached to any legal group why would you care, think your plea of innocence is a bit out of place ! Put up or shut I see you use that doesn't go along with being respectful !

[@EnduroTravelR]

Really, if you think that is riding fast I feel for you… Not sure how the plea of innocence is out of place. It’s a legal byway with a speed limit of 60mph, and we were doing no way near that not even close to 30mph. Each to their own I suppose, enjoy your riding 🤷‍♂️

[@locostse7en]

I can see both sides really.......

[@EnduroTravelR]

I can’t 🤣

[@ukbiker1631]

Only one side has the authority of the law behind them and in this case, its the riders (assuming they are riding fully road legal bikes and they were following a BOAV).

[@mcspiffington]

@@ukbiker1631 no plates or lights so if they're on the road at any time...

[@EnduroTravelR]

All bikes are fully road legal 🤷‍♂️

[@daveosborne4273]

We get the odd few in the Yorkshire dales . Think you shouldn’t be there and that you’re not insured or have mot or tax . 99% are nice chatty people enjoying the outdoors like us but that 1% always appears and spoils it . Enjoy your greenlaning . 👍👍😂😂

[@boredmalcontent]

I do think that you're often going a bit too fast, perhaps it's a group thing. I ride green lanes too, always solo and ready for walkers, dogs, livestock etc. - let's not piss people off?

[@DavidNormanMusic]

Where abouts in Kent is this..?

[@EnduroTravelR]

Near Medway

[@SiLoJayLo]

At least you're shutting the gates after you - respect for that.

[@EnduroTravelR]

👍🏼

[@mountaingoatsendurouk6439]

He reminds me of the guy on max and paddy that sold them the pig! 😂

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ianchapman5522]

way to fast,listen to the farmer he has a point.use a enduro track if you want to ride like that

[@EnduroTravelR]

Hahahahah. Byways have a 60mph speed limit. We weren’t even close to 30mph. You can see all the gates we had to get through stop start etc. not even possible to ride fast 🤣

[@georgeferguson9779]

Dang! Don't drive through someone's place like that here in Texas unless you want to be shot. People here don't like others driving on their property without their permission. Especially if it is impacting them or their livestock. At a minimum, you'd get put in jail for trespassing, and pay a very hefty fine with maybe prison time, depending on the circumstances.

[@EnduroTravelR]

It’s a legal byway, which is effectively a legal road. We had every right to use that road it’s not his land etc. I’d get your point if it was his land and trespassing for sure though! 🤘🏼

[@Hrossey]

“You weren’t racing” “but you were hardly pottering along either”. Opinions aren’t laws, not rules. No law was broken. There is no speed restriction on private land.

[@EasyRiderGreg]

I had a rancher get angry because I was standing on a public road flying a drone that went in the air over his property. He threatened to shoot my drone down.

[@EnduroTravelR]

😳

[@mktrollop1093]

I wouldn't have threatened

[@michaeldemetriou1399]

The sound made by the bikes is what some people chose to anger themselves. I chose to anger myself over quiet engines they are dangerous hence why bells are attached to sleighs so we can hear them coming.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah, it was mad how slow and cruising we were riding and he still felt the need to get all angry!

[@michaeldemetriou1399]

@@EnduroTravelR Funny how animals don't mind Quadbike engines as they rev up, but are so frightened by the sound of a motorbike?

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼😂

[@TheBigBraap]

I thought the 3 of you handled that really well, sometimes it's just not worth engaging - hes obviously been upset by someone.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks bro and agree!

[@diggerdave.6587]

I expect the price of lamb has fell through the floor because of covid

[@MrCJ750]

I've worked on farms in the past and I guarantee that the bikes are much quieter than a tractor ! The farmer just doesn't want you on his land ! Unfortunately he has a public right of way going through his land which he doesn't like, as most don't ! I've heard many farmers moaning about this type of situation and they aren't happy unless they're moaning about something !! Yet they'll quite happily fire up their machinery around cattle or livestock no problem, some farmers are a law unto themselves in their eyes...

[@warwickshiremidlandsweathe9067]

I've had encounters with farmers and so called pRiVaTe lAnD even tho it ain't private, I gave farmer fake me 😂

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@stephenjohnson22]

Quite simple, invite the farmer to come and play with his tractor in your garden !!! Bet you wont

[@EnduroTravelR]

It’s not his garden it’s a public byway for all traffic 🙈

[@originalforgery]

Don't blame the farmer at all.....

[@irishflyer6377]

You were right to ride on and not hang around to argue with him, he may well be having a bad day for some other reason. I carry some small printed notes that very nicely explains that I’m on a byway open to all traffic which we should all share with respect for each other and that there any 1000s of mile of footpaths people want to get away from vehicles. With angry Walker it’s best to just hand them the note and ride on.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man. That’s a good idea!

[@bobthenob9017]

Man I found your channel today and I love it, relate so much to your videos, hate nasty people like this I had to deal with one a threw months ago he actually pulled me off my bike.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man, only just seen this 🤘🏼

[@jakehoyland2888]

People like that are just jealous because they can’t ride and you can take no notice keep up with this amazing content bro 💙

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man means a lot 🤘🏼

[@neillambton4065]

You should never have let him film your number plates, because if he DID have a problem with other bikers, he would more than likely give your numbers to the police. Next time, just get out of there as quickly as possible without engaging with him. That way, you have your camera evidence, yet he cannot falsely give your details to police. Great vid by the way, and yet another vid which encourages me to get an enduro style bike to do green laning myself. Thank`s for posting it.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man and agree, we didn’t want him with our details as he showed he was clearly a liar not worried about the facts or truth!

[@imawhistleblower]

Too fast indeed. The farmer isnt complaining about the ride to ride but the speed and i agree. Trail riding should be a bimble, not an enduro.

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤣 I dread to think how slow you ride if you think this is fast. The speed limit on byways is 60mph and as you can clearly see in this video we were nowhere near that 😂

[@waynedl99]

Other than that, you were fine and dealt with the confrontation well imho, I can't keep my cool that well

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah it took a lot of effort to remain composed!

[@guyonacub4335]

Just keep it REAL ride legal, safe and show respect Dont let these people spoil your enjoyment I would like to see all groups joining together in support of those who are getting stopped from riding by posh, rich landowners A few hundred bikes turning up on a byway just to remind this SNOBS that this is what we do Have regular meetings with police/ residents to overcome any issues Stay upright 😅

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man and like you said, we are allowed to do it and can’t let them stop us just because they don’t like it…

[@guyonacub4335]

@EnduroTravelR exactly 💯 I'm a frustrated rider up here in Cumbria Trf just didn't work for me Only small groups on the rides Never managed to get on any of the rides Done a few lanes but got some abuse so just don't ride them anymore I'm nowhere near your level but the lanes should be open to all Keep doing what your doing as you do it well 👍

[@EnduroTravelR]

@guyonacub4335 thanks man. Don’t give up on it, all you need is to fall into the right group of mates and the skys the limit. I’m lucky I found a lot of like minded mates 🤘🏼

[@davidrobinson4118]

The bikes didn't look legal to me.

[@mrrevs2926]

I don’t see what you’ve done wrong mate some right idiots out there man but that’s the great thing about cameras you can prove people wrong instantly. Ride safe man🤘🤘

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks bro! 🤘🏼

[@andyperry2973]

Are you riding through lockdown? I did t think we were supposed to. Farmer was a wally, I’ve found most farmers friendly if you are riding respectfully which you were so hopefully these are few and far between. Speeded up section made me smile.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Keep an eye out for my next video on Friday, will answer all those questions 😉

[@andyperry2973]

@@EnduroTravelR interesting.......

[@EnduroDroneHub]

Ah the assumption of speed because he heard a 2T. I’m willing to bet he wouldn’t of kicked off if they all had quiet 4T’s our group get this all the time.

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@diggerdave.6587]

yes you can hear speed, thats why the police use expensive cameras lol

[@baneeyboy]

People just mad for no reason 😂

[@EnduroTravelR]

It definitely feels that way when your out in the bike.

[@Simon-df2ku]

if its not farmers, its horse riders or walkers moaning, nobody wants to share space in the Uk

[@EnduroTravelR]

Couldn’t agree more. It’s too rare that you find the nice person where you can just say a simple hello.

[@RideIbiza]

There was a point where they opened it up.. anyone knows you can hear bikes coming a mile off. Trouble is the farmer doesn't know that the bikers opened up where they could see in the distance no one was there. I know we love the noise of bikes but making them quieter would stop a lot of complaints for people and animals. Byways were very rarely having high strung noise noises in groups in the past. There is a need to adapt to the times. The bikers seem respectful but this farmer has his points although commonly with others not conveyed in a good way.. making you a dick

[@billybull7419]

Well said man

[@Coocorancrew2834]

Yes we had one last weekend, I took my 10yr old grandson out so he could ride his 150 on public access land, he rode in a 50 meter area, the cranky farmer started questioning the 10 yr old, when I went over to him, he said your on my private property, I replied, you have no right to question a 10yr old and we're on public access and you have no right to stop us, he didn't like the fact that I knew he couldn't stop us, I said "sir can you just jump in your car and leave " he got very upset, but there was nothing he could do, we kept riding there and will be going back to the same spot next weekend.

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼

[@WillysPerformanceCycleCtr]

Some people just don’t have anything else to do. You did the right thing.

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼

[@boz6161]

Sorry to tell you...but your wrong... farmer is right.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Really… now why would you think that 😂

[@BigDaveTALKS]

I agree, he was way out of line. I have never had that experience. About the most scary thing we have to deal with is hunters running string lines across the trails. In our public forest system, the OHV( Off Highway Vehicle) trails also run through some of the public hunting land. Buttholes everywhere 🤨

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂 true that!

[@ollydogtravels9465]

its not a footpath but a road subject to national speed limits

[@chrigul1]

Sometimes you get the anger that was building up in those angry men because the bikers that where before you wheren't as respectfull as you have been. In such a case I always say that I/we don't harm anybody, don't destroy any farmland and don't deal drugs or vandalize anything. this helps normally.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah think that was the case!

[@Jennifer-pb9nd]

so I'm confused, were you trespassing on the farmer's land? I really can't blame him for stressing out if he was worried you were threatening his ability to survive... maybe you were nice, but maybe some other people weren't, maybe he wasn't sure which you were?

[@EnduroTravelR]

No this is a legal byway, so effectively a road that all cars and motorcycles etc are legally allowed to ride. I understand what your saying but other people’s potential bad behaviour doesn’t give him the right to tar us with the same brush and shout at us for no reason. 🤷‍♂️

[@ellinolast]

going quicker than needed, riding on the edge of his property

[@gregharris4726]

Looks a good trail. Where about is it?

[@EnduroTravelR]

It’s good fun and I encourage many more to try it. Just off the pilgrims way near Medway! You must know it surely?

[@chrishawkins7685]

2nd part looked like one in Hothfield from memory. Very well handled. 👍

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man!

[@johnedwards4176]

You shouldn't be riding byways because the locals don't want you to , you should know by now that local people are never wrong. I would have took the footage to the police and put a complaint in .Maybe Mrs farmer had a headache on that morning. Keep up the good work

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks bro, yeah it really frustrates me when people instantly dislike you because your on a bike. We are all just out here trying to have a bit of fun. 🤷‍♂️

[@captainbarnicle8548]

Looks like you were riding through private property.

[@Halfstep2024]

No such thing where they are. In simple “merican” terms. They basically have laws in place that allow people to ride on damn near any connecting trail/road between properties they want. Hence why they are so casually opening and shutting gates. If you notice the guy isn’t arguing that they are trespassing he is telling them to slow down and bitching because they were being too loud for him.. they weren’t trespassing

[@EnduroTravelR]

It’s a legal byway...

[@Halfstep2024]

@@EnduroTravelR that’s the term I was looking for! Thanks! Man I really wish we had a system like that here. I mean we can connect national park trailheads by roadway and all but just being able to cut cross country in any way you want like you guys get to seems so cool.

[@diggerdave.6587]

@@Halfstep2024 It's different when he is out there in his big noisy tractor chucking smelly shit all over the place and ruining peoples BBQ'S because he has an illegal bonfire burning.

[@ukbiker1631]

@@Halfstep2024 Not correct at all. We are not allowed to ride in many places at all and certainly cannot ride on a connecting path just because it is there or across open land without the owners permission. This is a specific route known as a Byway that is a historic right of way and open to vehicles (as opposed to a bridleway or footpath that is a right of way but not for vehicles). Riders must keep to the specified route and are trespassing if they deviate off it. The farmer is entitled to place gates etc but they must not be locked. He is completely incorrect in this case about speed as byeways do not have posted speed limits so the only limit that is in force, as far as I am aware, and apart from common sense and courtesy is the national speed limit of 60MPH which they were clearly nowhere near.

[@adriantompson]

if there is sheep i slow down this time of year because there in lamb, every where else ride how fast i want. walker have miles to walk where we cant there always a pain we slow wright down for them but they still give you hassle.

[@EnduroTravelR]

True that

[@ukbiker1631]

Ive yet to have a walker cause me any problems on my local green lanes. Its rare that I see one to be honest.

[@adriantompson]

@@ukbiker1631 you are lucky. we get hassle when there are big groups off walkers. they have stopped in the past and have been very difficult and angry. thinking only walker should use the legal lanes.

[@ukbiker1631]

@@adriantompson I think the main reason is that most of our BOAVs here are not really popular walking routes so there is less conflict of users. You do get the occasional dog walker. I did once take a wrong turn thinking the route I was on was part of the BOAV and the landowner (who had clearly seen it happen before) simply pointed me to the correct route that ran parallel but about 200m further across.

[@ukbiker1631]

A lot of walkers dont realise that we are not riding on a footpath but they are, in fact, walking on a road.

[@philwells5580]

People assume noise with speed.... as long as you follow our code .. its a plane fact of life people hate other people having a good time.... what about farmers using public footpaths as a shortcut between fields.....

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah it’s just one of those things. I’m looking forward to the point where the electric bikes have the range. Should hopefully cut out a lot of these conversations.

[@billyjesus5442]

lets be honest farmers are looking for any excuse to moan and threaten.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Certainly felt that way!

[@Team_Banchamek]

Weren’t you riding through Private fields ?

[@ukbiker1631]

They were but following a historic right of way called a byway.

[@nobodyshero200]

I thought for one minute there when he was taking a picture your were going to rev her up and drop the clutch spinning mud everywhere!

[@EnduroTravelR]

Haha it was tempting!!

[@_marcus_does_]

2 strokes

[@EnduroTravelR]

2 strokes life 💪🏻

[@dirtbikefun]

Boils my Piss, so many people cant share the planet maybe because they don't do what you do or want it all for themselves. Carry on enjoying yourself.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man 🤘🏼

[@russellmarmon2847]

We ride salisbury plain all the time and it always pays to thank dog walkers and people in general as they move out the way and turn off if noisy bikes come near horses 99% of people no bother at all but you always get a Karen now and then.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah we always do our best to be respectful, just so frustrating when the Karen’s want to get at you regardless. 🤷‍♂️

[@kai-uweoch1159]

I think it always comes down to noise. And while some can't really imagine riding a bike without the sound of a combustion engine, I am sure we would all encounter much less problems if we would ride almost noiseless electrical bikes. I am actually looking forward to that!

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah man I’m not against electric bikes at all, it’s just the range limit that the issue for now.

[@diggerdave.6587]

@@EnduroTravelR I actually had one once. I could only go down to the roundabout and back otherwise the plug pulled out of the socket.

[@daddy5225]

They will just complain that they didn't hear you coming..... And frighten the crap outta them....

[@aaronalford7062]

Can’t do anything anymore

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@davewatson309]

Silly old Kent, and we all remember when all these green lanes were full of travellers all winter before they were cleansed, maybe youre next

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤣

[@lvenduro3751]

Ah man that guy was a jerk. Glad you didn't just take it.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks man 🤘🏼

[@gilly9666]

Green lanes are far and few between in Gloucestershire the council seem to close and restrict them all , its shit

[@EnduroTravelR]

We are lucky still got quite a few down here, but slowly but surely being closed.

[@stabes70]

Unfortunately it’s the English attitude of anti biking, keep doing what your doing as it’s their problem!

[@EnduroTravelR]

Thanks bro 🤘🏼

[@KR1IS]

In this world anything you do that fun there's always going to be haters! Have fun life is short

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤙🏼

[@darylsnelling6394]

Alot of people got stopped this weekend and given fines. In Kent by blue Bell Hill the police are using drones to follow you through the woods and if your bikes all legal there giving you £200 fine for riding in lockdown. Not like you can give someone covid in the middle of a field inside your helmet but they must know something we don't. My bikes gone up for sale and I'm building a electric one

[@EnduroTravelR]

With you all the way, but it’s not entirely true. We also got stopped this day... video coming tomorrow 😉

[@darylsnelling6394]

@@EnduroTravelR ah ok maybe not everyone got a fine then

[@rodsreel]

Slow it down on sensitive sections, grassy farm land / animals or even evidence of animals. Use neutral and cruise past at tick over noise. A nod of the head to a passerby with kids / dogs etc, goes a long way. Us bikers are potentially the ones who can cause upset so we should be very respectful at all times.

[@HippoDrones]

Is kind of ironic you guys getting called out by him here when you are actually riding respectfully and not in some of your past vids when riding less so! :D

[@EnduroTravelR]

Haha you have a point, but it doesn’t matter where we go we always try and be respectful and mindful of people around etc!

[@alanpontone6599]

That's the problem with England. We moved to Canada(British colimbia) unlimited mountains and trails and anyone you run into gives you the thumbs up. Check out the DirtChimps channel.(our backyard) They ride all the same single track as us on 1290ktms!

[@EnduroTravelR]

Will do man 🤘🏼

[@twowheels4689]

yes I've been punched in the back by some old farmer as i set off because I wouldn't listen to what he had to say lol he was going on about the 4x4's never close the gates. how's that my problem i closed the gate didn't I lol. I was gutted my go-pro battery was dead lol

[@EnduroTravelR]

Ah man, that sounded like a nightmare! Glad this guy didn’t get physical but certainly seemed like it was heading that way...

[@twowheels4689]

@@EnduroTravelR he must of been in his late 60’s early 70s, I just found it highly amusing that he had the guts to land one on me. I’m 6”4 and 110kg bloke. No fucks was given lol

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ukbiker1631]

Im a smart arse. I would have asked him how he expected a car to close a gate.

[@shropshireladoutdoors743]

Nothing wrong in my opinion just out enjoying the byways probably had problems in the past and decided to take it out on you 🙂

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah I think that was the case.

[@christophersibley8946]

I’ve had shot guns pointed at me and was shot at and luckily the shot didn’t manage it get in to my body all my clothes slowed it down so it only stung for a day. Essex police did nothing about it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@EnduroTravelR]

Damn!! 😳 glad you were alright!

[@ukbiker1631]

If you had proof that you were shot at, they should have had that idiots shotgun licence off him (shotgun pellets in your clothes is more than enough evidence!). You should have pressed the case and gone further up if necessary.

[@philiphalpin1997]

When was this filmed. ???

[@john00]

Try going slowly the lanes last long time then

[@stephengunrunnerhanson3550]

You took the high ground and said nothing because them that shouted like him they will not have confo you and the other lads were very chilled and you done the best just ride away and there for great Ambassadors to the great hobby

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼

[@davemartin8997]

Further more lol. Open up more trails from bridle ways and footpaths with gates and pay a yearly subscription for passes. 1000's of miles of footpaths etc could be dedicated to bikes I personally would pay £100s a year for the privilege. Why do dog walkers have to walk on Byways...

[@EnduroTravelR]

With you all the way mate!

[@danwhite1993]

Pluckley, done this lane a few times and never seen anyone, nice lane though.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Yeah must have just been unlucky this day.

[@chriskinne4940]

Let be honest you not going slow really are you we can quite clearly see on the Video at some point your going quickly not that I am bothered

[@EnduroTravelR]

Worth noting the speed limit is 60mph... 🤷‍♂️

[@diggerdave.6587]

@Kevin Down Nice one!!

[@ukadventures5660]

The farmer is foolish and should pipe down a bit

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@davidrobinson4118]

Mmmmm, I thought motor vehicles had to be road legal to be used on green lanes etc. Just saying. I stand corrected if I am wrong.

[@kevhampson6808]

Just your can!! 😂

[@toddmiller1933]

He don’t have a leg to stand on Some peeps just want it there way and sorry the world work like that

[@EnduroTravelR]

🤘🏼

[@Chad-scoots]

Boy trying to just have a good day out tell him to jog on

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@jw492]

Had loads of similar incidents while out laning. Pretty recently had someone step out from behind a wall and clothesline me with a rake, for using a public byway that was near his house. Just goes to show the stupidity of some of these people when they pick a fight with someone wearing a helmet and armour.

[@EnduroTravelR]

Oh man, I’m glad it wasn’t that heavy?!

[@jw492]

@@EnduroTravelR Yea I was absolutely fine! Just bounced off my chest protector. I won't go into detail about what happened next!

[@EnduroTravelR]

😂

[@terramoto215]

Where abouts did that happen? 😱

[@EnduroTravelR]

It’s a byway that runs through coldbridge wood near Ashford in Kent

[@guyjones3665]

Too many kids on tractors flatout.. haulin 15 tons . Phone in ear ... lifes too easy .. life's too fast...

[@russhoward1]

I ride bikes on the road and you guys are being nobs. Have a bit of respect for the locals, instead of being disrespectful

[@EnduroTravelR]

Firstly it a public byway open to all traffic. Secondly have a bit of respect for the English language… your spelling is a joke 🤣