Fallout TV Show Season 1 Finale - Angry Review

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AngryJoe, OtherJoe & Alex review the Second half of the Season, the Final Four Episodes & Finale of Amazon's New TV Show based on Bethesda's Fallout Franchise, does it end well? Our Final Thoughts!
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[@AngryJoeShow]

1st Half of Season - 8/10, Goggins God Tier, Nolan kills it, Great Intro & Pacing, Action & Writing, Fascinating Character Setups 2nd Half of Season - 6/10, Goggins God Tier, Tone falters a bit, Rushed Ending, Weak Romance, Hilarious Brotherhood vs NCR "Battle", Maximus Underdeveloped Season 1 Overall Rating - 7/10 Really Great Adaptation, Better than Halo, less than TLOU Season1, Looking Forward to Season 2! It certainly always feels good to have the EXACT same opinion as my audience on things, it doesn't always work out that way! I don't feel a 7/10 for Fallout Season 1 is all that awful of us. We are pretty hard on this stuff, we gave a 2/10 to Twisted Metal S1 which yall LOVED! 🤪 But much love guys! Thank you for keeping it civil so far in comments!! (minus a few of you)

[@ThriceGr8]

Spoilers 💀 Edit: this pinned comment spoils the 52 minute KZbin video. I don't care about spoilers for the show. I just want to watch the full video without seeing a TLDW pinned comment by angry joe. Too many low IQ people can't realize that this pinned comment is spoiling the 50 minute video joe made and think I'm talking about spoilers for the tv show.

[@Ravenbones]

TLOU is way worse than this.

[@leegriffiths8910]

@@ThriceGr8why are you here?

[@wolftanktreads9085]

Thanks Joe but another adaptation needs our help 😂

[@grabin99]

I agree with most of this, but Fallout was better than The Last of Us

[@JacobTemplar]

I actually liked this more then the last of us

[@bentucker2301]

Much better.

[@JacobTemplar]

@@bentucker2301 don’t get me wrong there was stuff that missed in fallout and they could have done better. And tbf I don’t know the lore super well. But I wouldn’t give it that low a score. Plus it’s a unique story versus adaptation

[@mattcollins3591]

SAME

[@eternalbeing3339]

Same

[@MrFox101]

The last of us was straight trash. Only normies liked it.

[@ppsarrakis]

I think the last 4 episodes made the vault 33-32-31 parts way more interesting i think overall it was better than the first 4.

[@Indigocell]

I half expect that Cooper's wife and daughter will be suspended in cryo-sleep in Vault 31.

[@Spongebrain97]

At first I wasn't interested in what was happening back in the vaults but as the story progressed I did enjoy seeing Lucy's brother discover the hidden secret and thought the vault experiment was neat

[@McHobotheBobo]

Yeah maybe it's just because I'm a lore nerd but I found the second half of the season WAY more fun and compelling

[@JuicedOnKids]

@@Spongebrain97 I honestly thought I would hate Norm, it's your typical teenage child but quickly ended up as a intriguing person. unravelling the mystery with him and learning the vaults history was fun. It's part of why Fallout is interesting, as you go deper into the vault you discover the horror of the experiments.

[@greggeiger7532]

Yeah agreed. The show became more interesting overall by the end of the season.

[@ryanjaco400]

The code that was put in at the last episode (101097) was the release date of the first fallout game on October 10, 1997

[@XShrike0]

I was wondering if that ment something.

[@sinnistar99]

Nice catch

[@evangingerson1271]

Nice

[@paladinanderson8433]

I thought to myself “it’s a reference to FO3s starting vault, Bethesdas first Fallout game, and the 97 references the release date.” But maybe I had that backward and 101 in three was referencing the release date.

[@crazybear5475]

All the three main characters were ALL tracking the package so it seems reasonable that they would keep running into each other.

[@somebodyelseathome]

How did the ghoul cowboy no exactly where to go?

[@crazybear5475]

@@somebodyelseathome dog meat was tracking for him.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

It still felt quite contrived how they always ended up at the exact same spot at the exact same time. California is a big place and there's a lot of ways to get from point A to point B.

[@gnome_child]

​@amysteriousviewer3772 but if they are literally all using a tracker to find it, it would make sense they all follow pretty much the same path

[@johnbrooks9900]

Betting on a new season lol it already is renewed for a second season 😅

[@plazus]

Never disagreed so much with this show opnion. I loved the finale and the later episodes.

[@darkcity2004]

Its getting annoying how they are so critical and negative about everything

[@shadowstrangler1]

Right ?

[@lilwisp4974]

They give precise reasoning behind heir opinions and you’re saying they’re just negative??? Bruh

[@Bignuke87]

They consciously destroyed New Vegas as shown in the end credits

[@wraithflaire1639]

​​@@lilwisp4974I can understand their tone complaints but their complaints that the story didn't completely wrapped in the first season is kind of whining. It seems to me contrary to what Joe and guys think that they always planning wrapping up the story in season 2; that any sense they got of rushing the story last episode has less to do with the pace but more to do with their dislikes of hanging story threads between seasons. I can also agree that they didn't show enough of the action during the battle between the NCR and the brotherhood.

[@iq4347]

Never seen a comment sections opinion so different from the actual video before 😂

[@brettweir9050]

I didn't watch twisted metal but this review of the second part of fallout makes me actually want to check it out lol.

[@White_Tiger93]

eh, its hard to hear his thought on the show when you never played the original Fallout nor the New Vegas game to actually fully grasp the references but also inconsistency in the show. Oh yeah, remember that time he promised to review Fallout New Vegas back then in 2010? LMAO I'm sure he don't even know who mr. robert house is nor shady sands backstory..

[@mewletter]

That's good, since this show is at least entertaining and has varied opinions on each episode.

[@G4MER28]

These 3 are not film critics they are room readers, they saw a complaint thread on reddit and took it as the general opinion of the show, when they realise they are going against the POPULAR opinion they will make up some excuse to have a " re watch " and give it a much better rating, they have done this kinda thing before.

[@prestonbar7513]

I enjoy Joe's video game takes, but I usually disagree with his tv show takes (usually). I remember watching their Game of Thrones reactions, and was frustrated he couldn't remember Tyrion's name lol

[@redsoxfox]

This is probably the most divisive review i’ve seen on this channel between the audience and the critics.

[@michaelcastillo8884]

You never saw their Twisted Metal review lol

[@DjTittySprinklez]

​@@michaelcastillo8884Twisted Metal was god awful lol

[@pracitus]

They 100% weren't paying attention to it while "watching"

[@redsoxfox]

@@pracitus I have a hard time understanding how such a gifted game…that came with a tv series…with such an awesome budget and actors…why these guys would gloss over it. If that’s true, they should have got enough rest, held off on other projects, and relax and watch thoroughly…because this show is dope asf. Im guessing they aren’t true fans and they glossed over it.

[@Helieos45]

Fallout is woke as fuck hate this crap.

[@green7449]

The thing that frustrated me the most is Max not just going "yea, Knight Titus got fkd up by a bear. So I took his power armor and am completing the mission." The way that scene was written was infuriating.

[@johnbrooks9900]

Brotherhood of steel is a really strict cult any squire that uses a knights armor essentially four fits there life, it's essentially treason

[@jacobtuttle4311]

Maximus and his storyline is definitely the weakest part of the show. He did say he died running like a coward

[@bencarlson4300]

Maximus is a bad character, he has no emotion, he’s only alive because he’s lucky, and he’s not funny. Thaddeus is a way better character.

[@VirtuaSavage]

You literally see Lucy put the damn tracker up the heads nose and says "snug as a bug" and even chooses the icon to be vault boy's head on her pip boy. Clearly not paying attention.

[@SGTMasterBean]

Like they all musta not been paying attention because not one of them interjected there

[@spacecowboy1438]

That is the one thing they missed, yet they mentioned it each time they criticized conveniently finding the head.

[@NaeemTHM]

Hey we’re all fans of this channel, but these guys can be meat heads sometimes.

[@SGTMasterBean]

@@NaeemTHM yeah they get mad when a piece of media spells something out too obviously because it makes it seem like the writers think the audience is stupid…but then subtle things go over their heads or they just somehow miss entire scenes and blame the show??

[@ToLazyToThink0]

Pretty sure they included the scene in several of the recaps just in case anyone missed it the first time.

[@haveljohnson3799]

I mean, we literally see Lucy stuff a tracker up headman’s nose.

[@jesseleblanc8445]

Joe says treat us like adults but misses that, can't make it up lmao

[@xXSgtJackXx]

@@jesseleblanc8445 joes the exact reason why every single series has to explain every single detail lol

[@thechosen_png]

Let's give it up to Ella Purnell for mastering an American accent. If you didn't know she was British, you would have never guessed.

[@eveeleevi]

what no way innit

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

there is no ethnicity only Color

[@isabelle5089]

cope?@@creatorsfreedom6734

[@Omiicron]

I did not know that at all! But i did strangely think she was British, I wonder if in the back of my mind I detected an accent.

[@Ziggyvu]

@@creatorsfreedom6734go back to middle school plz

[@dave_johnson]

If Goggin's character knew about the flaw with the armor, WTF did he not exploit it in the fight with Maximus?

[@KD--sj8eo]

He might have just remembered…in a flashback that occurred after that fight, he talks a with the vault tec guy about how a flaw in the welding got his buddies killed. Not a perfect answer but it’s not too much of a plot hole either. Maybe he made some special ammunition 🤷‍♂️

[@vagabond4576]

He was messing around a lot. He was not in as much danger as he was compared to dealing with team to squad numbers in a condense space. Pretty much a wild card like a anti villain/villain. You never know when hes gonna let loose. Spare someone or mess with his prey.

[@jowshwah934]

Multiple lines specifically talk about the tempered lining, that’s why.

[@Allaiya.]

Someone said it’s bc he has tempered lining in the armor which Maximus asks Titus about on the flight to the wilds before that scene.

[@filioperibeiro6285]

He didn't have the armor piercing bullets at that time. You can see him loading different bullets while he's talking to the brotherhood of steel.

[@cristoferherrera3579]

Regarding Lucy tracking the head, it was not a one-off line. It was actually shown her putting the tracker in the heads nostril and the tuning to it. Her tracking the head in the same direction that Max was is not all that unbelievable

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

It's literally a wasteland with very few places of civilization lol. idk what they expect. Go into the wasteland and die?

[@JoRoBoYo]

they are dumb, they watch the show with their foot apparently 😂

[@jeffceff2821]

@@JoRoBoYo yeah I dont even get how can you give this show 8 or 6. They literally built practical effects armors, lots of details, the whole fucking city. And besides these things the story is amazing. Yet they give 10 to fucking invisible season 2 which is absulute garbage in terms of production quality and took more than 2 years to show us teeneger relationship between mark and amber whole fucking 8 episodes and 5 mins boss fight. Ridiculous rating from these guys,

[@Spartan-bl4pq]

@@jeffceff2821I’m glad I’m not the only one who didn’t like season 2, bro that last episode wast trash it was filled with crying and barely even a boss battle

[@mrjtfang2]

@@jeffceff2821 INvincible looked fine, and even then visuals aren't the final determining factor of the quality of a show or movie. The story is OKAY, and the script falters when they try to be funny sometimes. Seven, even an EIGHT, is good, dude. Chill.

[@MaxTrash01]

This review honestly confuses me so much, I’ve played A LOT of Fallout. I feel like the show fits perfectly within it.

[@Helieos45]

This show sucks balls

[@polkad3v]

I agree. The reviewers are acting like the fallout games are a documentary when in reality the games are pure satire. They're actually complaining about the comedy, haha.

[@erikclarkson2811]

@@polkad3v 100 percent agree

[@Ronok205]

@@polkad3vthere is literally a vault with a bunch of clones of the same man and they didn’t like how vault 4 was a goofy vault

[@Jonrskittles]

​@@Ronok205not the same man, cuz you have eye patch girl, and the older woman overseer

[@SquashyButton]

I didn't notice any dips in quality at all in the second half. The season was consistently great from start to finish. And I don't know how you can say there was no character development when both Lucy and Maximus change quite a bit throughout the season.

[@betobolt9212]

And the Ghoul too. So much development it's crazy to say there is none.

[@SquashyButton]

@@betobolt9212 The Ghoul definitely developed the least, but he did grow as the season went on. You could tell that at least a little of Lucy's kindness/optmism was rubbing off on him. I think it'd be super interesting if as the show went on, they have Lucy and the Ghoul basically flip personality wise. Where the Ghoul becomes kinder and more understanding (maybe as he learns more about what happened to his family), but Lucy becomes more jaded and violent as she spends more time on the surface.

[@FearOgre]

lolol

[@pietro0games]

Only the CGI on the last episode was a little odd, on that younger version of hank

[@McHobotheBobo]

Yeah if anything I thought the second half was better

[@kevingreif5706]

16 times the backlash

[@FoxxRyan7713]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cyluk358]

Genuinely crazy that you guys will give a few Halo episodes 7's and 8's but complain about the 2nd Half of this show: which is the better half overall.

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

LOL For Real.

[@ryanmcbride2527]

This was my first thought as well!!!

[@tomnelson341]

💯 FACTS

[@infinite1135]

Real Shit!! 💯

[@Realpopcornchicken]

To be fair the halo episodes were rated on “the halo scale” which means they were graded in comparison to each other. But I still agree and I thought this show was a 10 throughout.

[@The_Bailey_show]

18:12 Lucy Litteraly says everyone she as met has tried to kill her... she literally just escaped from having her organs harvested, it makes sense that she isn't has naive as when she started her journey

[@Cimlite]

She flipped on a dime though. Naive and optimistic one second, one organ harvesting attempt later - she's tough as nails. It was too quick, with no nuance. And to be honest, the super market encounter didn't feel all that more harrowing than anything else she had had to deal with up to that point.

[@dawsonh420]

@@Cimlitei’m genuinely curious by the “she’s tough as nails” how so? because she shot a few rad roaches?

[@Cimlite]

@@dawsonh420 Her whole character changes after that scene. They even make it blatantly obvious by her changing her clothes. No longer looking like the simple vault dweller as she comes out of there. But other than that she also takes charge for the first time, outright tells the Ghoul what's going to happen, saves him and wanders off. It's clearly meant to be a turning point for the character. Doesn't feel earned though as she essentially stumbles her way through the whole encounter inside, and things just work out by chance. It's very weirdly written imo.

[@lopeshick9607]

@@Cimlitenaive and tough aren’t mutually exclusive traits. Before the organ harvesting attempt she had already bitten off the Ghoul’s finger, she didn’t magically become tough after the supermarket, she already was. And also it wasn’t just the market incident. She was forced to decapite a dude and carry his head around, got used as bait for a giant monster, was forced to prepare human flesh for another human to consume, got her finger cut off, almost died of thirst after being a prisoner on a wasteland for days, and lastly almost got killed bc she tried to free everyone at the supermarket. If these things don’t change how one approaches other people then idk what does. She doesn’t even fully stop being Naive either, she’s initially all on board with the people at vault 4 even tho they looked shady asf. And she fully believed the obviously-lying strangers on the bridge when they said they didn’t have guns. No she didn’t do a 180 you just didn’t pay attention.

[@Gambit0590]

@@Cimlite are you feigning stupidity

[@zaab-yaoh9302]

I’m convinced we didn’t watch the same show.

[@vrdaddy2667]

I’m convinced we didn’t even play the same games!

[@caracalculator2237]

yup they give it a bit to high rating.

[@slasherofgods]

the whole vault part was so long and it ended as a damn joke? they aren't wrong

[@Aamonnater]

Yh it was trash

[@jashonharris]

The watched “Allout”

[@SuperCasperman]

Disappointed? 😒 Last two episodes revelations were insane

[@toshtao1]

.

[@555-diugh3]

It's well written but idk man, it could've been more serious

[@Daergarz]

@@555-diugh3 Then it would not have been Fallout.

[@verdant2215]

Lore conflictions

[@RoguePlanetSounds]

​@@555-diugh3agreed, I enjoy it for the most part, but the tone is all over the place, and the characters are quite dumb.

[@wolfsblood5188]

I don’t think I’ve ever disagreed with Joe more lol

[@dancox416]

Because Joe is an amateur and never played all the games.

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

​@@dancox416wtf does not playing all fallout games mean.

[@adamjanczewski6652]

@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord I am just wondering what does "playing all the games mean".

[@gamintrucker1016]

​@@adamjanczewski6652 When you play all the games, you know more lore. Knowing the lore helps you review stuff.

[@adamjanczewski6652]

@@gamintrucker1016 which games? That is my question.

[@kurtschaaf2165]

Seems the entire comment section disagrees with them 😂

[@DTWD420]

Rightfully so, the people have spoken

[@thelightside77]

Dude they can't even play a game properly their streams are horrible. Joe should have been a comedian not a critic.

[@tomnelson341]

​@@thelightside77 yea I don't like the stream content either. I miss the old days where he just did video review format for terrible video games.

[@kroms001]

As it should - thing is, it shows they didn't catch any of the easter eggs or even understand the lore. AJ can't claim to be a mega fan and not know the lore.

[@JohnnyZenith]

People keep being surprised but this happens quite often.

[@dreadsire5086]

I disagree with almost everything said in this video.

[@Abrakadabro666]

Same.

[@jrandt08]

Same.

[@flerbus]

same...i thought it sucked from beginning to end

[@panzer00]

​@@flerbus lol, why?

[@thatkidsavage_1154]

He's apart of a hive mind he doesn't have his opinion ​@panzer00

[@hakimzane]

Wow, I actually disagree with you guys on this one. For me, this show was fantastic from beginning to end.

[@grogu411]

I disagree. Last half took a big step down. Still a good show.

[@bradkirchhoff5703]

@grogu- not at all. Actually amped up. Not sure what you watched…

[@Trigger200284]

i thought it was good man. For me it was an 8/10, and that's hard to do these days. I feel like they are being too critical as well.

[@dogsbreakfast4952]

@@grogu411last half was better

[@Wonderbrut]

@@bradkirchhoff5703not enough mutants, people just crossing vast distances and ending up at the right place at the right time like in Westworld. There’s lots and lots to criticize let’s not let recency bias grip us by the balls there’s perfectly reasonable explanations people have for this show not being as high as some people say it is in a 10/10 rating system plus no one is saying it was a bad show every person I’ve seen says it’s good don’t know why everyone has a stick up their bums about people disliking certain aspects of the show over others

[@cesarlin]

To clarify something, TV show productions are very different from movie productions, we don’t work on episodes sequentially, the production schedule is kind of semi-overlapping. That’s why different episodes have different directors and writers. However episode directors and writers have little influence and control on how the story plays out, “writers or directors of the last few episodes have to resolve fix the whole thing“ simply don’t happen or very very rarely happens. The whole story arc and outlines for each episodes are finished even before they start shooting the first episode. In my experience, the same team worked on the first three episodes is akin to the situation of traditional TV pilot, so the producer can give the final go ahead on full production. Think of episode directors more like Art directors or supervisors on movie productions, and writers are usually just working on details and dialogues. If you don’t like how some colors or shots from some episodes look, or how some actors act from particular episodes then yeah that’s on episode directors. If you don’t like the story of certain episodes and think the “quality” of some storylines are subpar, that’s all on the show runner. It has nothing or very little to do with how many directors worked on the show.

[@Jewelsmith]

Thank you for explaining this, and hopefully the guys will read it.

[@Helieos45]

Only losers like Fallout.

[@oldmatttv]

Show runners and producers are also the people working with composers and such commonly, instead of the directors. Just to add an example of how the director's role is different on shows vs films.

[@scorpfpv8647]

I barely disagree with you guys …but y’all are buggin …the way it ended was great

[@TheOriginalPain1]

Exactly, this was the worst review I’ve seen on the show. Even rotten tomatoes gave the show a 94 & they are known for being unreliable 😂

[@nicke89]

you are delusional, This last battle and episode is cringe

[@TheOriginalPain1]

@@nicke89 you gave no reasons to support that. Notice how you are the only one in these comments thinking that. IGN gave it a 9 out of 10, rotten tomatoes gave it a 94 out of 100 first day out, & every comment agrees that the show was done extremely well for an adaptation. YOU are delusional

[@nicke89]

@@TheOriginalPain1 did you guys lost ste standards? Who runs to battle towards the enemy with flag in their hands , battle scenes are nothing but total cringe, if GOT was like this it would never been popular

[@TheOriginalPain1]

@@nicke89 You are comparing GOT to fallout which is why you aren’t a real fan who should have any review power. Fallout games are literally known for being.l wacky and goofy at times. There are literally perks in the game called wild wasteland which make the games even goofier. That’s literally the point of those tiny details & a real fan knows why scenes like that are important in showing that the show doesn’t take itself too serious. You missed the entire point 😂😂😂

[@jefftharakan1457]

Kinda hate how many mistakes Joe and the crew make in his show reviews and he keeps on saying he is a big fan of the fallout world but barely knows anything about the world and lore.

[@Dahellraider]

Hes a casual fan honestly. Also they all have massive hate to anything bethesda, and it shows alot.

[@Wyr_111]

I'm a casual fan as well, so I may be wrong here, but I was under the impression that Vault Tec was always the ones who launched the Nukes.

[@JuicedOnKids]

@@Dahellraider tbh, they're very soft on BGS. They're definately more negative but this is after FO76 & Starfield. But I think it's the hardcore fans kicking up more of a fuss about the vague lore detailsin the show.

[@bigbananadealer846]

​@@Dahellraider he gave a pretty well rounded opinion on starfield, which many people would have given a MUCH lower score to than he did

[@Raiyan678]

I mean I am a pretty casual fallout fan. And I enjoyed the show very much.

[@angrymnky]

A six Joe? "slightly" above average? gimmie a fucking break dude.

[@hoRsinator]

ya i dont know what they saw

[@Maynards_so_blue]

other joe and alex are extremely harsh and tight these days

[@MACH1TIPS]

BS rating

[@Design909.]

@@Maynards_so_blueAlex is no surprise

[@tomnelson341]

Yea they just trash everything nowadays. A big reason of why I unsubbed from this channel a while ago

[@theycallmejonny5]

I’m not upset at you guys for not liking the 2nd half but I am shocked. I think this will make me question your opinions on movies/ series moving forward.

[@spacetruckin1853]

100% not even going to take anything they say seriously after this review - I could see shitting on Halo, but this?? No way. This show is easily a 9/10 if not a 10/10.

[@RealParadox85]

Apparently this show is on par with the Halo show, according to them. I am in disbelief. This show is "barely above average" lol wtf

[@tomnelson341]

Yea I agree. If the show is this good and you still shit on it, then your opinion is questionable in my eyes. Kinda destroys their credibility for me moving forward

[@Cenot4ph]

​@@spacetruckin1853😂 you people must be smoking something. This show is so average, its written all over it

[@gringotico1759]

​@@spacetruckin1853 Alright that's a bit much though lol It definitely had several weaknesses, I'd give it a strong 8/10 . Definitely better than TLOU and I agree with the original comment; I'm going to have to take what they say about future content with a bit more care moving forward.

[@WillStopka]

"Man this show is clearly made for more seasons. It's terrible." God forbid a show has more than 1 season....

[@gizmopunch]

I very disagree with Joe, I loved all 8 episodes. All directors understood the assignment very well. There is room to tell more to this story in Season 2. But to each their own I guess?

[@MisanthropicPrime]

I haven't agreed with most of Joe and gang's opinions for years. They are grumpy old men with shotguns yelling "get off my property" that get paid to spread negativity.

[@wraithflaire1639]

They have a clear bias against multi seasonal storytelling. They like their season's stories to be wrapped in a nice little bows.

[@Noughe]

The final scene reveal got me real excited for a season 2.

[@wraithflaire1639]

They clearly like their stories wrapping in neet little bows between seasons. Even a hint of hanging story lines offends them. The story of the fallout TV show was obviously designed not to be finished in one season.

[@DerDrecksack87]

I am wondering if they tie in other regions after Vegas, would be neat to get Boston & Washington DC too.

[@poppoppy7375]

kinda breaks NCR lore...even if shady sands gets destroyed i'm pretty sure the big army doesnt just disappear overnight

[@basedggallin4556]

​@poppoppy7375 I've been trying to explain this to people, the NCR is supposed to have anywhere between 700k to 1 million people living under its banner and there's just no explanation whatsoever of what really happened to them.

[@poppoppy7375]

@@basedggallin4556 exactly, shady sands is one settlement and last I checked, the NCR ain't one settlement

[@KevinDunbar-mm1nt]

Did they ever explain how moldaver lived for 200 years? Was she a ghoul?

[@donttalkpish2012]

And hank mclean , how did he live 200 years ?

[@OddManeuver]

​@@donttalkpish2012 the cryo pods in 31 keeps management from Pre-War on ice until they're needed to either replace an overseer or to make an important decision. With the brain in the jar, Bud Askins, apparently overseeing the process. However, I think Hank trapped him with a broom when he became overseer. As to why Moldaver looked fresh, the reason is unknown but there are a few ideas they can go.

[@infiltrat0rn720]

Well I assumed right from the get go with Moldavar that she'd been in cryo (like from Fallout 4). Maybe she was cryo'd somewhere else? A different vault? Or she'd snuck into vault 31 and got cryo'd but wasn't meant to? They might be holding over details like this for season 2.

[@infiltrat0rn720]

@@donttalkpish2012 Cryo, same as Betty, and Steph. They were all Bud's Buds from Vault 31.

[@CsRazeel]

idk whats going on here, but the last 4 episodes were really good, and it's the same spirit of fallout and the humor. It's rly rly fun

[@Zachary6553]

while it being "fun" is subjective, you have the right to claim so, you cannot seriously say that it is in the same spirit of the fallout games. the theme is so far gone. it is the constant light hearted marvel-esque humour that should be glaring to anyone who has played the games. this is obvious due to the incessant nature of the humour. no ones denying that there is humour in fallout, only that the style and overpowering nature of the humour in the show is a stark comparison to the games that we all loved. this ontop of the ridiculous writing, directing, and shameless retconning, it shouldnt be a surprise that some fans of fallout, or fans of quality movies and television take serious issue with these things, and the shear amount of ad hominem or otherwise vicious responses to this criticism is the real shame in all this.

[@DMitr0]

there is one gigantic leap in logic in that vault trio. who the heck did clean all the bodies up in 32? it basiclly happend over night, and the only awake person in 31, is a toaster with a brain in it, attached to the slowest RC car, in the world. ppl would've noticed a large number of vault dwellers in 33 being missing, and cleaning up that mess would've taken a crew of 10, a whole weak atleast. and getting rid of the smell, of two years of perished ppl, vacuum drying in there. and for those, coopers daughter is suspended in a vault? she was literally with him, as he got ghouled by the nukes. his daughter is probably gone gone.

[@almalone3282]

*same spirit and humor of fallout 4

[@SpiderboyN2Jesus]

@@DMitr0 There are about 10 people from Vault 31 in Vault 33. Why couldn't they have done it? Also, just because the Lucy timeline takes place over a few days, who's to say that's the case with the Vault 33 plotline. We see Walter serving food to the Raiders tons of times. Seems like a lot of food to be giving them overnight, don't you think?

[@Checv]

“My penis explodes like pimple haha” is not fallout humor it’s just cringe why do the keep reverting his character to an 11 year old boy

[@captianobvious9234]

Jeezus Christ. I can't imagine a game adaptation better than this. I guess I'm out of touch. I'll take this all day.

[@tomnelson341]

Yea that was my thought too. The power armor HUD in the show even looks exactly like it does in the game. Every detail in the show is verified to be completely accurate to the game, and apparently the director and producer are both huge fans of the game (and it shows). I don't understand how you can call yourself a fan of the Fallout lore, but then also give the second half of the season a 5/10. Shit was so good

[@garygelthaus]

@@tomnelson341 Shows referencing game mechanics are cringy. And its written bad and to ingore past lore

[@TheCrumpers53]

​@@garygelthauswhat lore did they ignore?

[@taigaaisaka6305]

@TheCrumpers53 Biggest one is that their timeline is either wrong or they retconed stuff. Show takes place in 2296. They said Shady Sands and the NCR were destroyed in 2277. New Vegas takes place in 2281 and Shady Sands is still perfectly fine there and the NCR is the main faction of the game. In the lore it's never said who dropped the bombs, but its heavily speculated that it was China. In the show they basically say it was Vault-Tech and give the dumbest reason anyone could ever think of: "We want money" yeah, because turning the world into a desolated wasteland and reducing the population by like 90% does wonders for revenue, am I right? I'm sure every company would trade making billions a year to only making a few bucks.

[@angryjoe98]

@@taigaaisaka6305there no way to to be rude saying this but you fail at paying attention to what it in reality a simple story.

[@LocDocStrange]

Why didn't the Knights use the helmet mounted flashlights? Ghoul cuts out the lights and they never powered the helmet lights.

[@ajay-ul2bf]

That's actually a good point to be fair just finished the last episode and came here, I really enjoyed it, but I agree they still could have had ghoul whooping ass but cut the lights have them turn their lights on and look around frantically and you can still have him kill them or whatever they wanted to do

[@pinkystarfishh7623]

that bugged me big time, like would have been cool for him to shoot their head lamps before shooting the lights out.

[@LocDocStrange]

@@pinkystarfishh7623 Would have been Super Cool! They missed an awesome sauce moment.

[@pinkystarfishh7623]

@@LocDocStrange Right?!?

[@CuriousChronicles82275]

You have a point there.

[@brandonmike4010]

I disagree big time with the boys. I loved every bit of this show. I have hundreds of hours in fallout. This is at least 8/10 for the whole thing. The ending was great and I like them setting up for a new season. Especially the tease of new Vegas

[@t-rexreximus359]

Agreed! I gave it a 9/10, but I think an 8 or 10 are also fair. Any less than 8 is too low for this show imo. Can’t believe they gave it a 6/10. Each to their own but wow

[@mikemcmike6427]

Exactly and even the lack of focus later in the season wasn’t a downside for me. It felt like “side quests”. That actually tied into and explained the main story better (the different vaults)I didn’t need a laser focused March to the end. The world’s so big and there’s so much to explore.

[@FEWGEE1]

"Treat us like adults" "It didn't have a cool battle scene 6/10" Just lol.

[@AlphaXray]

The Last of Us show was literally the game story. You knew the whole thing already. This was a new story set in the Fallout universe. I'm not even sure if you can compare them other than the fact that they are both TV shows.

[@JohnnyZenith]

This is actually a very good point.

[@stevemartegani]

I don't seem to recall Last of Us episode 3 being in the games, which was also one of the best episodes of television in history. Fallout had NOTHING close to that.

[@Gambit0590]

@@stevemartegani it was heavily implied

[@stevemartegani]

@@Gambit0590 Irrelevant

[@egirlcafemanager7119]

@@stevemarteganiwhich one is that? The gay dudes? nobody cares lol

[@chrishovey2903]

I honesly think Joe , You're reading Lucys' character development all wrong when she meets Maximus stuck in the power armor. The past episodes show Lucy using her naive vault personality about immediately trying to help everyone get her in trouble. She was finding out how vile the wasteland really was and how people are really out to save themselves. The Vault ideology of help everyone wasn't working. So she started to actually become cautious. Even though Max was the Knight in armour she learned not everyone is trust worthy. Even after she tells him she is being cautious, He IMMEDIATELY LIES TO HER!

[@claudiofistmaster]

If it’s a woman, there’s a good chance Joe is gonna find something to complain about 🤷🏻‍♂️ It’s a pattern I already noticed on him

[@garygelthaus]

@@claudiofistmaster Yup. Totally cuz boobies and not bad writing. yes sir totally correct its that there misogyny

[@miguelpadeiro762]

@@garygelthaus What's the bad writting here? Chris sums up the good logic behind it pretty well.

[@isabelle5089]

Some videogame nerd incel being misogynistic, not surprising@@garygelthaus

[@Георг-л5л]

She immediately try to fuck him the next episode where this character development you're talking about?

[@WarNvrChanges]

5:42 it’s not a “new idea” as far as who dropped the bombs. Hardcore Fallout fans have known for a very long time now who was originally blamed for dropping the bombs. ( spoiler you’ve been warned) ……….. there was a canceled Fallout show many years ago ( pre Bethesda) and in the original script they blamed Vault Tec, and in Fallout 3 you can see an undetonated Nuclear Bomb with the Vault Tec logo clearly represented on the side of it.

[@camerona2509]

Yeah this was weird to me too. Because ive played thousands of hours Bethesda fallout games. And I believe it was the youtube channel synonymous who did an entire "conspiracy" theory about vault tec being the main villains of the entire series months ago. Hell the history of the enclave was literally that...a group of the ceos and other big names connected to the government were the "enclave" meaning vault technology, west tek, robco, general atomic etc are all part of the "enclave" So this revelation wasn't a shock to me. I was more like leonardio dicapro from the meme on the couch going "I know what this reference is" For me, I'm 90% sure the "main" villian is just going to be the enclave as we discover they survive somehow and we're the main puppet master from that war room scene

[@WarNvrChanges]

@@camerona2509 Exactly lol. I’m thinking the man behind the glass is likely the head of the Enclave.

[@camerona2509]

@gamergremlin4351 that's my guess. The enclave has already proven somewhat resilient from f2 and their destruction of oil rig in the west, to the east in f3

[@joe7380]

So bethesda made up some bs fallout lore. and that "new idea" is a new idea there was never a established canon that vault tec had a hand in it. It was due to fev. They just wanted to revert the west coast to pre fallout 1 to get rid of governments and make it wild west again to appeal to a broad audience.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

I think you are all commies. The Soviets and the Chinese probably painted Vault TEC logos on the bombs to change history. They are too bland glorious capitalism and the Mega Corporations

[@_SubSonic_]

I'm convinced Joe does not watch the shows that he reviews. IT IS SHOWN WHEN Gussy puts the tracker on the head in the nose. How much better you like the show to show you - do a 1h episode of it?

[@TimmySquibs]

Gussy?

[@Face_RC]

@@TimmySquibs Goosey, that's what Chris Parnells Vault 4 Overseer character calls Lucy.

[@Dan016]

Yea we all got that, but when you put tracker in nose on head, head goes off in another direction, but she still finds bro, on multiple occasions, it gets a little hamfisted

[@BakedAnomaly]

she takes a tracker out of her pipboy and jams it up the nose, the tracker is well established.

[@SombraCheeks]

yeah they even went as far as showing her picking out the icon for the tracking... but that is a strike against the series, because they were not paying attention when something was shown

[@AZjesse1]

They’re weren’t paying attention clearly

[@Vicky-ci2fk]

They saw it drunk I guess.

[@infinite1135]

They’re not watching the show, they’re either too high or too busy falling asleep to play attention to the story.

[@Swooped117]

I really enjoyed the show. The only thing that stood out to me as really dumb was Cooper suddenly remembering he could 1 shot t-60 power armor in the finale despite getting man handled by a single t-60 earlier in the season. You guys were talking about there being too many goofy joke scenes in, but I feel like that is on brand for Fallout.

[@TheManWhoSoldThe-World]

I think you right. but coop did really try to shoot in the middle part of max chest. even tho coop was playing with his food.

[@VirtuaSavage]

I feel like in that scene it showed Cooper wasn't really trying to kill Max in the beginning. Cause it cuts to Max's face like "Oh wow he could've one shot me the entire time".

[@BitigoBlack]

That gun misfires during that fight. He wasn't able to use it.

[@bigstarideas]

I saw it as him not revealing his knowledge until he really needed it.

[@bayyonetta2989]

I feel his character is like retired veterans that bored, he knew the guy inside t60 is an amateur, he toy with him. If he wants to kill them all he will do as when he captured after scene when he get his med back.

[@cody4243]

When the Ghoul first fought Maximus in the power armour he kinda struggled. When he faced 3 of them at once in episode 8 he talked about a weak spot in the armour and proceeded to blast all of them with ease. Anyone else catch that?

[@TheDravic]

He talks about a memory of him using that armor in the past. There's genuinely a possibility he didn't think of that memory when fighting Maximus. He was fresh out of the grave and still rusty, or maybe foggy when fighting Maximus. Maybe even the amount of the drug he took helped him recover bits of his humanity, watching the movie he was a star of could've jolted his memory... I don't think it's a plothole, personally.

[@cody4243]

@@TheDravic it’s not really a plot hole… but that’s a good theory on explaining that. I was just wondering when I watched the scene take place…

[@andrewgil2850]

I like to think he was enjoying himself fighting a idiot in a suit

[@charlie7mason]

@@andrewgil2850 Yeah, I think he caught on pretty fast that this wasn't a fully trained brother of steel and was just toying with him. Might've caught on when Maximus comes out shooting and instantly loses his gun. And then the wild swings at him might've just confirmed it.

[@XShrike0]

They also showed him deliberately loading his gun. I assumed he was using special ammo.

[@Alex-cj3cy]

You guys dropped the ball on this review tbh. Taking the show more seriously than it takes itself, its fallout, its supposed to be ridiculous and satirical.

[@lennysmileyface]

Fallout1 and 2 are not as ridiculous as the show. They have their moments but it was overall more dark. Even the Bethesda games are not goofy all the time.

[@robzei95]

@@lennysmileyface I'm with you 100%. I think the majority of people that like this show are fans of fallout 76, which is the worst example of what fallout is supposed to be.

[@Dan016]

Bro that’s not what’s being criticized here, if the tone and established groundwork the tv show presents was the tone we got from episodes 5-8, it’d be tolerable, but the switch up between the first half vs the second is just went a tad off the rails. They are critiquing the show on itself

[@gio31111]

@@lennysmileyface Fallout 2 isn’t ridiculous? Did we play the same Fallout 2?

[@lennysmileyface]

@@gio31111 Yeah it was always funny like when Frank Horrigan gunned down a family with upbeat 50s music blasting.

[@hailsax4943]

This is the shittiest review ever

[@jeremybrunk9576]

Disappointed? We get a good adaptation and y'all still shit on it 😆

[@andrekrzyzowiec4063]

This adaptation openly shits on New Vegas and established lore. It may be a good acting and action and fun to watch... if you don't care about the lore.

[@GhanjaLounge]

​@andrekrzyzowiec4063 how does it shit on new Vagas?

[@xanderpiz8770]

It's good, but not great. $150m+ budget for a "good adaptation" show isn't really the medal you want for it.

[@Sleep-is-overrated]

@@GhanjaLoungetldr, NCR gets nuked and collapses 4 years before the events of Fallout NV. It then turns into a weird raider gang/death worshiping cult with Moldaver as their leader/messiah.

[@GhanjaLounge]

@Sleep-is-overrated Tldr what? Anyway, I don't think they were a death cult, and they NCR was huge, it could be possible they existed.

[@jestep85]

why do you rush a review of an actual good show and spend time on episode by episode reviews of a garbage show like acolite?

[@WallEWorld]

Even the dog had character development WHAT THE F-

[@Personalquestion]

Did you even watch the fucking show?

[@patrickwilliamson29]

I personally think that if vault tec had dropped the bombs, why would Cooper Howard and his daughter be away from their vault. I would think that his wife would make sure they can get close, especially the daughter. For me that storyline just creates a bit of world building in that there were many different people who wanted the bombs to drop and we will never actually know who launched the nukes first.

[@charlie7mason]

Exactly, just because they planned on doing it doesn't mean they were successful. Especially as you put it, Coop's wife going to such great lengths to ensure their daughter makes it to one of the 'good' vaults. As pre-show Fallout lore stands, the Chinese are supposed to have possibly been the ones to drop the bomb, so it is likely they caught Vault-Tec by surprise with very little warning time. The fact that Coop's looking for his wife and daughter means that there's a possibility they were still able to make it despite the pre-emptive nuke plan gone awry. Heck, for all we know, the Chinese could've had spies who revealed the Vault-Tec plan and decided to begin it themselves.

[@timokohler6631]

It's a good point, but we don't really know the exact role of Coopers wife in the organisation. Information in such a conspiratory organisation would be handed out on a need to know basis, maybe she just did not need to know this one.

[@EccentricMeat]

"The tone was all over the place"... umm, are you new to Fallout? There are plenty of harrowing quests and environmental storytelling beats, mixed in with a ton of goofy quests and environmental storytelling beats. Fallout has never been a "one tone" type of story. "They conveniently find the head"... they showed her put a tracker in the head, showed the word "TRACKER" in huge letters on the pip-boy (not "Fall Out Boy", Joe...), and she brings it up in a later conversation that she did, in fact, put a tracker in the head. "They built up to this big, epic battle and the battle was short and underwhelming"... they didn't build up the battle at all. There was ONE scene, where the BoS says "Lets go get the head", and it is plainly clear that these regular old raiders have 0 chance against a literal army with tanks (power armor). Not sure if you guys just marathoned the back half of the show when you were tired or burned out or what, but you missed crucial storytelling moments and completely misunderstood the existing tone and lore of Fallout.

[@phasmidjelly1429]

You've probably only played the Bethesda games. The original Fallout games had a golden rule: "Dark humor was good. Slap-stick was not." Fallout is not supposed to be zany and goofy. It's not supposed to be a themepark.

[@thegreatmammu6797]

@@phasmidjelly1429 what? have you ever played the og fallout games with a low intelligence build? Its nothing but a slap stick comedy theme park

[@blinkachu5275]

@@phasmidjelly1429 you clearly haven't played the original Fallout games lmao, they were goofy as fuck

[@Kitth3n]

I thought the tone was weird sometimes specifically episode 7 but overall i think they struck a good balance. Better than I could’ve hoped for

[@phasmidjelly1429]

@@blinkachu5275 There are jokes but it can't be compared to Fallout 76 or Nuka World, which is pure slap-stick. Fallout 2 has a lot of reference humor or "nerd" humor but it still has a pretty serious and bleak atmosphere.

[@AtlasWork]

I just hope the upcoming Bioshock Netflix adaptation is close to this Fallout style work. Bioshock is literally my baby

[@vidmasterK1]

Ayn Rand for beginners

[@Nix_Abyss]

I’m hoping they don’t fuck it up or god of war and do what Fallout did

[@j.davila4523]

What bioshock adaptation?

[@SonOfExcess]

Bioshock is one of my babies and I pray it’s good.

[@push935]

If it's anything like this show id be upset

[@Blackdragonofthewest]

I swear I was running to the comments to disagree so bad my head almost started spinning…..when they say “KZbinrs are ruining cinema” I think they might be talking about you guys lol 6/10 com on son smh

[@AleksandrStrizhevskiy]

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[@Tweek08]

Y’all definitely messed up with this one lol. Watch in 2 episode binges next time. The story was nearly flawless. Doesn’t have to be a big battle every time. BoS just demolished the remnants of NCR. We didn’t need to see that. That isn’t the “war” scene we needed. And honestly I believe they showed enough of it. Very satisfying first season. 9.5/10

[@tribuneoftheplebs9948]

Could not disagree more the last half of the season was straight fire compared to the first.

[@franrojas5753]

As a series for me its an 8 and as an adaptation is a 10. That 'who dropped the nukes first' is the most Vault-Tec thing ever imo

[@kriseightyfive5854]

Exactly the same for me, 8 as a series, 10 as an adaptation. Can't wait for S2!

[@WillStopka]

I actually like the maximus said the bomb dropped when he was a kid. It showed that vault 33 had no idea that vault tec are still dropping bombs... what is AJ talking about... it doesn't ruin the time line of fallout... it's 2 different characters life experience

[@deadn00b1]

I really hope the second season will feature a Ron Perlman cameo

[@Nix_Abyss]

We pray 🙏🏻

[@Ecclesia_]

Probably as a mutant :')

[@JayTraversJT]

The Ron Pearlman intro's/credits always came across as documentative camera film to me. Could easily show him as a historian or military instructor in a scene just teaching a bunch of people about the wasteland.

[@t-rexreximus359]

& Tim Caine

[@ArtofLunatik]

Wish he would of atleast narrated the intro. Or somethin

[@Raktus]

I guess what I don't get is that I always found Fallout to be dark humor... so saying it had too much humor felt on theme for me. It's an odd complaint.

[@Krondon-SSR]

Yea did they think this was halo or sumthing

[@Raktus]

Just another note on the 17:00 mark... they showed Lucy putting a tracker on the head and then confirming it on her Pipboy. I dunno why she would have gone right to where Max was, maybe it was the last location she got for it when she checked. The argument that Thadeous is long gone though? His foot was DESTROYED. He's hobbling away while carrying that massive backpack and fighting a dog that's nipping at him. Thaddeous ain't going anywhere fast.

[@bigstarideas]

Yes! Totally there was always a dark / odd humor aspect and I think they did a great job.

[@PurpleandGold615]

Also, the 2nd half of the season had less humor than the 1st half so idk wtf these guys are talking about. Legitimately think theyre just trying to rage bait and fall in line with the New Vegas nerds crying over a damn chalkboard that doesnt even show the nuke year

[@prestonbar7513]

My only complaint was that they didn't go harder lol, I thought for sure Maximus was going to try to save Lucy and kill everyone, and realize after there's a dozen corpses on the ground that "oops, we fucked up"

[@szilagyimiklos4757]

I dont get how this show is average or slightly above average? What shows are these guys watching that this is only average?? I really doubt they would call this average after checking it against other shows

[@hazzerz]

Did I watch the same show? It was great from start to finish (imo).

[@gmb3602]

Same here

[@zzygyy]

It was great. Plan on rewatching it.

[@robertobefera5576]

It wasnt... first 5 episodes amazing. The season finale plain stupid

[@hazzerz]

@@robertobefera5576 In your opinion

[@JuicedOnKids]

@@robertobefera5576 Is your main gripe the lore?

[@timwilsin6816]

are you guys on crack? this is the best game adaptation we have seen in years!

[@marekjanik9962]

They act like pretentious idiots here, ngl

[@Gersemi_Trader]

they complained its too silly or jokey, thats fallout hahah they don't know the style and lore

[@infinite1135]

I absolutely loved it.

[@taigaaisaka6305]

@@Gersemi_Trader Yeah man, Fallout games were just like Borderlands, jokes and sarcasm every 20 seconds. A true fan would know this. (Oh no, they weren't, at all. There's a difference between having humor and unloading a barrage of jokes and silly haha moments at every chance.)

[@_UPRC]

​@@Gersemi_TraderI don't understand how the humour on the first four episodes wasn't a problem, but it was in the last four when it was consistent the WHOLE way through. The funniest joke is the horrible take these guys have on the show's humour.

[@MrWallerdog]

Falling asleep in the final ep when everything is finally revealed is wild. Learning lucys story and seeing the ghoul learn about his wife was good, felt like we had a build up to that the entire season.

[@dvoid665]

They tied all the loose ends instead of doing the cheap cliffhanger to get you to watch the next season, yet they still set up a lot of new stories for season 2. It was perfect.

[@Chucklgeist]

Wow, I enjoyed the show a lot more than you guys did! For me, I loved how the show depicted the insanity and sometimes horror of the world, all while embracing the silliness that is characteristic of Fallout. It just felt like Fallout to me. If they had done it differently, I don't think it would have captured that essence. As for the lore continuity, you have to remember that Fallout's story has never been entirely reliable. So if the dates or details don't add up perfectly, I don't see it as a huge problem. After all, there's no internet or reliable media in the wasteland - just a few radio stations - so the source of information is often just stories from wanderers. And let's face it, that's not the most reliable source! So yeah, take everything in the games and now the show with a grain of salt. History was never clean and always distorted.

[@EstebansCastle]

The last scene with Ghoul and Brotherhood of Steel was peak. NCR also comes out guns blazing is amazing to see. AJS is used to comic book adaptations and cannot comprehend what Fallout is about and why it is loved

[@delacre47]

I know nothing about Fallout but I was completely absorbed in this story and I’m excited to have a second season. Even more importantly, I’m now going to go out and research the story/games etc. Really surprised by this review.

[@talisredstar1543]

I agree the action got a little weaker in the later episodes, but I don't agree with the gravity of the reveal being bland. I mean Lucy goes from a fish out of water, to in that last episode having her world... blown away. the reveal of the mother I saw coming from the moment she walks in the room. I was like omg no... but that whole reveal in that episode I was heartbroken for Lucy. So i'm like you I really don't see where/why their opinions fell off. To me I gotta say my thoughts align more with the Critical Drinker than AJ and crew on this. I went into this show expecting to se Fallout version of Halo, and for me Fallout is how you do a game adaptation right. I get the where they say that they kind of retcon stuff, but its the kind of thing that could be wiped from the story with another "shady hills" thing. We've seen them do similar things in the games. For me it worked in the games, and I still feel it worked in the show.

[@kanival42]

Watch a video on vault 11. Most messed up experiment in game

[@xLegendKilller]

Follow Oxhorn he has a ton of Fallout lore series from all games and media

[@yehdssdgsdg7790]

I feel like many fallout fans forget how goofy the first two games, and New Vegas were. Lmao. Anyone remember the talking “toaster of doom?” Or the dialogue options when talking to some of the enclave solders in F2. Or the UFO encounter in F1. The games are pretty wacky in their own right. It’s half of the fun of the Fallout Universe imo.

[@alexanderivanyuk8001]

Bro....New Vegas at the end..... what more do you want???!!! Todd Howard probably got told to shut the f up about his commonwealth nonsense and give people what they actually want.

[@gosh402]

Good pacing, no forced romances, humor whackyness levels at a good balance, satisfying resolutions

[@bigyoshi5170]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@gosh402you got that, there was none of that, that’s entirely a you problem there, sucks to be you with that one there

[@Gambit0590]

@@gosh402 we got all of that

[@BlackScisir]

yeah man. New Vegas. In a tv series. I have no words. When I say it out loud it still doesn't sound real.

[@gosh402]

@@bigyoshi5170 my response was in regards to what people actually want. I agree that we didn't get those

[@benboat4734]

A good show finally comes out n you guys going way too critical, 6/10 for the second half is actually insane.

[@OkByeNw]

I try to keep it real with the numbers. We often forget that 5/10 is supposed to be average, with that logic a 6/10 SHOULD mean above average. Unfortunately that's not what they were implying. Even then, I'd say this show is far above average. Personally, I'd give it a 9/10 but that's just me.

[@refugeehugsforfree4151]

They rated some Halo Ep better.

[@OkByeNw]

@refugeehugsforfree4151 I'm a defender of the Halo series and even I know there's no possible way that makes sense.

[@skyhunter2816]

​@@OkByeNwWhile you're technically correct, Nobody looks at a 5 as average. A 5 is bad.

[@OkByeNw]

@@skyhunter2816 I agree. There's a huge discrepancy with what scores actually mean vs. what we think they mean.

[@boot-strapper]

technically its never confirmed who dropped the bombs.... all you know is that certain parties are considering doing it and are morally ok with it.

[@justinhorton993]

Second half was better for sure.

[@YungKilogram]

I dont think its strange that 3 people all looking for the same thing in the same area run into each other often

[@thedealdoe3323]

I wrote this off in my head as, the plot always waits for you to get there in the games.

[@Gersemi_Trader]

its also typical fallout, main character syndrome is hard in fallout with everything evolving around the main person as its some sort of destiny

[@tickeater1776]

It’s also just how stories work? People are so caught up in realism they don’t consider how the hell a story could progress without instances like this

[@YungKilogram]

@@tickeater1776 yeah its a coincidence any character meets any other character in the first place.

[@rafterman5072]

It’s also a TV show. There needs to be “some” plot conveniences to drive the plot forward. It’s not a video game where you can just spend five hours walking around trying to find something. Being nitpicky is stupid.

[@GhanjaLounge]

I honestly couldnt tell that the episodes were written by two different teams till you mentioned it. Its like you guys looked it up, then wanted to hate it.

[@kroms001]

Same. I thought the show flowed really well, did very good character development and did a fantastic job building the Fallout universe.

[@_UPRC]

Almost every show ever does this (different writers almost every episode). Why these guys act like it is a bad thing blows my minds.

[@brentsteven4944]

did you guys watch the second half in a bad mood or something? you fellas ok? I can agree they need the same director for the whole thing and that they dropped the max story dead in the dirt but i feel you were all a little unfair with other things, just so you know the show takes place after all the games so far and i believe is canon and vault tec dropping the first bomb has always been a theory. On a happy note im very exited to see what Bethesda deems the canon ending for new vegas when we get to see the strip (which i dont think you even mentioned the awesome mr house cameo in the flashbacks shame on you). If the overseer guy wants to go there i wonder if that means house is still alive and that is who he wants to go to.

[@MrHappyBoomer]

Yeah the cameo that ruined his character

[@Nix_Abyss]

Y’all are smoking something the best part of the show is 5-8 I popped off at 5-8

[@j.davila4523]

Popped like a zit amirite?

[@Nix_Abyss]

@@j.davila4523 can’t tell if you’re just joking or seriously upset with the comedy and jokes in the series but it’s literally just like the game it’s meant to be cringey and nonsensical that’s fallouts humor lol I thought the jokes and silliness and gore felt on brand for the series and games

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

​@@Nix_Abyssidk episode 2 is hard to beat with the ghoul killing a bunch of people. But i wouldn't say the show dipped a lot either.

[@j.davila4523]

@@Nix_Abyss no no, i’m with you I enjoyed the show alot

[@Nix_Abyss]

@@j.davila4523 oh ok I felt like you might but could’ve seemed like you were dissing it too so wasn’t sure haha 😂

[@thatkidsavage_1154]

Just seems kinda nitpicky guys

[@tickeater1776]

Every review these days. No one lets themselves enjoy anything anymore

[@thatkidsavage_1154]

​@user-iu2lg9hq7q Yeah, they went from "reviewing" to just nitpicking obscure details.

[@ChadWinters]

You highlighted why TV adaptations should not be canon and usually fail. Why should a random writer and director of a single episode be able to change everything to "put their imprint on it" Get a good writer and director and have them do all 8 episodes. Its not like its the old style 25 episode season TV

[@stevenloyer7491]

This is your guys first big wrong take

[@papaya32]

nah

[@vincentd1992]

These are the guys who gave 8/10 for Suicide Squad :) ...

[@AngryJoeShow]

Our first one in 16 years? thats pretty good track record. Man 7/10 must be a really bad rating these days. Our bad.

[@DY3R80LIK4L]

​@@AngryJoeShow😂love ya sho bro 🇬🇧

[@TheHuffmanator]

Nope

[@AlemobileOfficial]

I don't get why you care so much about the final battle between the Brotherhood of Steel and the NCR. That compared to the revelation of the Vault-Tec plot is just background noise...

[@sieuzice]

Because they're kids who prefer shooting and explosions instead of a well crafted story.

[@shmickit]

@@sieuzice💯

[@AlemobileOfficial]

@@sieuzice True. I think they were expecting an Avengers fight?

[@BennyGoId]

It's because they don't realize that Moldaver's army is composed of NCR REMNANTS from Shady Sands. There was no way for them to be able to win against the Brotherhood of Steel, especially when the BoS have Knights in T-60 Power Armor.

[@manelcolomer9044]

@@BennyGoId Yeah, and they were basically massacred. And the BoS were sending more troops lol

[@Marcandre11]

Just wrapped up the show and was eager to hear your thoughts on it... only to discover you weren't paying attention.

[@Ecclesia_]

Pfff. Die-hard Fallout fan here. I loved the show. Filled with lore, filled with Fallout. It hurt to see that my favourite 2 factions were fighting each other. The final shot made everything even better.

[@camerona2509]

Same...I was Leonardo dicapro the whole time on the couch pointing to my friends going.."I know this!!"

[@dancox416]

Agreed

[@Cenot4ph]

😂 really, this show isn't fallout at all. Different theme than the games, completely different

[@camerona2509]

@@Cenot4ph literally...the exact SAME theme as it has been...down to the tried and true writing formula of "Something is missing and you need to go find it." Literally the same plot all the way back to season 1. As well as the same overlying theme..that war..war never changes

[@devon596]

Same brother. You can tell they made the show for us, not for people who don't understand the series like Joe.

[@solidusblitztv]

I don't see myself re-watching TLOU again. I will be watching this again a couple times before season 2 drops. I thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish! 10/10

[@DTWD420]

Totally agree

[@Gersemi_Trader]

yeah im a collector of movies and series for my home cinema, physical 4k discs. I watched last of us but have not bought it physical, don't feel like watching it again. But i already watched first half Fallout series twice, once my self and then with my GF. Im a fallout nerd, she doesn't know fallout so i thought it would interest her but she loves the series

[@draculathevampire934]

You guys r tripping 2nd half is great to

[@Wraithettg]

Second half was definitely better. I think if this was a 12 episode series the story would have benefitted

[@papaya32]

It's trash tho, but cool story

[@Ketchup_and_Mustard373]

​@@papaya32nawh

[@supersuede6493]

@@papaya32 Second that. Trash ending.

[@gmb3602]

Yeah I agree

[@oefspcedwards]

I disagree SO MUCH with this review. I thought the 2nd half was better, and the whole show is amazing. FYI The show IS considered canon.

[@masterclockwork4436]

Joe does not get to, on one hand, praise some the goofy shit then use the line "treat us like adult" at the stuff he doesn't like.

[@hijodechago]

She put the tracker in the head they show her doing it. The guy's dog also tracks the head. You don't have to suspend belief as much as angry Joe says

[@spooner7637]

Joe reviews like a child sometimes. “We don’t have time resolve every story” guess what Joe, it’s continuing over seasons, good lord

[@lordlubu3029]

Yea that was such an insanely stupid complaint, he's upset that...the show has plotlines set for S2?

[@kroms001]

b-but he's a "Fallout megafan" LOL 🤣

[@JohnnyZenith]

Exactly this. Shocking really.

[@TheZaius]

Imagine if he was one of the first people to watch Empire Strikes Back in theaters. They had to wait THREE YEARS for the resolution back then.

[@teph1256]

did you notice that scene with walter goggin where he's at that dude's house eating their chicken was straight out of The Good, The Bad & the Ugly

[@zzygyy]

He reminded me of the Man in Black from westworld.

[@raulvito6246]

Exactly! Goggins played a pretty much perfect Angel Eyes

[@AleksandrStrizhevskiy]

I did not. I don't remember that at all. Should rewatch it then.

[@donsauloekingo1503]

Did you guys watch the same series as US or, cause we're pretty happy for the future of the series

[@tydaguy2k19]

The second half of the season was very disappointing compared to the first. Definitely needed atleast 3 more episodes

[@doomhippy9049]

Joe mate the trackers shown in last 4 episodes when she puts it up his nose and shows her using pip boy loads to check location what we're you doing bro picking your nose 😂😂 love your stuff but your wrong here bro !!!!!

[@mistermomon9020]

Fucking exactly 😂

[@FireHam]

That she put a tracker in the head is shown and conveyed, completely.

[@SamA-cy8eu]

Man you guys are terrible at Reviewing a great video game adaptation. Time to go back to Game Reviews.

[@lennysmileyface]

A review is an opinion at the end of the day shut up lmao

[@SamA-cy8eu]

@@lennysmileyface you should join their team!

[@lennysmileyface]

@@SamA-cy8eu You should stop crying about people not liking what you like.

[@SamA-cy8eu]

@@lennysmileyface Hokie Dokie

[@SomeRandomCanuck]

Yikes take. I guess that's what happens when viewers barely know the Fallout universe. Joe doesn't even know what a vertibird is.

[@BennyGoId]

He called it a "copter", for Christ's sake. I cannot believe he claims to be a "mega fan of the games", when he has only put out an "Angry Review" for Fallout 4.

[@gambello1195]

​@@BennyGoIdyeah I cant believe he didnt review Fallout 1 and 2 when he was 13

[@Bradderz407]

I don’t think he’s played the OG games lol my guy never even played resident evil 4 OG, it’s crazy how all these big you tubers have played no big old games

[@BennyGoId]

@@gambello1195 Haha, very funny. He could've at least given his opinions on Fallout 3 and New Vegas, but he even lacks knowledge about the events of those games (evident from how he is oblivious about the implications that can be drawn from what's on the chalkboard in ep 6, and seemingly has no idea that the NCR expanded into other parts of California and into Nevada). He claims that "Fallout lore is being retconned and being written/replaced" at the beginning of this video during his Season 1 overview, but doesn't go into detail. Joe's lack of knowledge about proper terms that are explicitly said IN THE SHOW, even though he took notes is probably the most damning evidence, if you ask me. For example, he mistakenly says "med-pack" instead of "stimpak", and even thinks that the Mr. Handy robot (Snip-Snip) was equipped with AN AXE when attempting to harvest Lucy's organs. He misremembers so many scenes throughout this two-part review of the Fallout TV show, it's laughable. I was actually excited to hear his (and Other Joe's) thoughts on the show, but him fumbling SO HARD when trying to recap what happens in each episode makes it hard to watch and listen to.

[@gambello1195]

@@BennyGoId yeah could be he just read online people are saying it retcons stuff which it really doesnt. what comes to misremembering things, he's been doing that with everything, even things he truly know. seems he just got poor or selective memory.

[@RubysWrath]

I think it was what i wanted for an adaptation. I didnt expect some major high budget thing. I wanted fanservice and i got fanservice. 9 outta 10 for me.

[@itsandy88]

9/10 for fan service?

[@bigstarideas]

@@itsandy88 yes. Give the fans what they want not what normies, mom's, dad's, kid's want. Disney does this all the time and it turns out awful.

[@vitaly2432]

Didn't feel like it was a fanservice fest. The show did more than merely that. But it's fine if you think this way, at least you enjoyed it. What I'm saying is that I think that even non-fans will like the show.

[@Alexander-lk7is]

I like the idea of Maximus growing bigger and angrier to the point that he wants revenge on everyone

[@RG-gv8ss]

His character looked like it was going somewhere but fell off after the first 4 episodes

[@bigbeefy111]

Yeah but his character never goes anywhere. He constantly fails upward. You think he learns to be this altruistic character by the time he takes the armor. Then he flubs it by reverting to be an unstable coward again. I hate it.

[@ravens2332]

He's EASILY the worst most un-likable character I've seen on a show in awhile.

[@RG-gv8ss]

@@bigbeefy111 yeah his character is a walking contradiction By the end of it tbh . First four eps he strives to be that hero that saved him, but then he some how wants to kill the bully he befriended instead of maybe holding him still or tying him up.

[@irarelyupload6930]

Maximus is my favourite character because he actually acts like someone would act in that situation. Not some unrealistic badass, superhero just a normal bloke who is trying to do the right thing.

[@smileyr]

I’m glad so many people disagree with Joe in the comments lol