Hellcat vs T65 Which One Is Better??? End Game Power Armor Fight - Fallout 76 Steel Reign

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[@Sirvanic]

I remember in the beginning of Wastelanders how long it took me to farm enough bullion to get a full set of T-65. Now you get a equivalent for free just by completing Steel Reign. But I ain't even mad. My little brother is gonna love it. But first he gets to inherit my first X-01 suit decked out in mods and a jetpack. And that's a jetpack from back in the day when you had to run whitespring bunker vendor over and over again in hopes of getting the mod (took me 2-3 days of nothing but running). That PA is like a ancient family heirloom lol.

[@FP194]

Well the mods are not cheap I spent 6000 gold on the calibrated shocks and jet pack

[@_deadwait]

Is there an easier way to get the xo1 jet pack now?

[@charlieropesocks5793]

@@_deadwait I think it’s always at the modus shop

[@starfoxBR77]

I just completed my T65 three weeks ago 😶

[@O1dguy1789]

@@starfoxBR77 yeah, you and me both buddy. If I had known we would get a free hellcat set, I would have saved the bullion!

[@ArkadianMr]

The dataminers found out that the helmet does have the 2% ballistic reduction bonus,even if it is not in the description.

[@sometimeshethinks452]

Holy canole

[@DHunter_47]

The Kingdom of God is at Hand John 3:16 King James Version 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[@DHunter_47]

@@sometimeshethinks452 The Kingdom of God is at Hand John 3:16 King James Version 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[@kademarlowe1419]

So I had a ghoul slayers 50 cal... And did legendary crafting 5 times. Here's what I got in the exact order: Hunter's, then mutant slayers, back to ghoul, back to hunter, back to ghoul... I hate it here lol

[@Slybby]

199 times take it or leav it^^

[@Blubbstock]

I had it worse, i did legendary crafting 2* 10 times on my hellstorm missile launcher (as secondary to hit enemies on a radius) and i got it in that order Zealots, Nocturnal, Furious, Zealots, Mutant Slayer's, Zealots, Nocturnal, Zealots, Mutant Slayer's, Gourmand's That were 30 modules, hours of work for nothing. We can't have nice things, no wonder why so many people get frustrated at the RNG grind and just buy a glitch gun from ebay. If i can't get a two-shot & +50 limb damage missilie launcher in between the next 7 days, i will just buy a beam splitter .50 cal for 10€ from eBay. My time alive on earth is not infinite and i don't want to waste it.

[@Slybby]

@@Blubbstock so in order you dont get frustrated you buy a cheater weapon and frustrate every player in every event you join and waste there time? nice ego trip. if you buy one and use it i hope your account gets banned forever.. win win then. you dont have to waste time and you dont waste other players time.

[@BryanPlaysAlot]

i had the same thing happend to me with auto grenade launcher today, 5 crafts, goes from junkie to hunter, mutant slayer, back to junkie, to ghoul slayer and now i have a useless exterminator... great

[@Blubbstock]

@@Slybby Bethesda does not ban people for having these weapons, only when you duplicate or trade them. And on PC almost every third or fourth player uses one of these, so the events are already broken.

[@austinhawkins3307]

Bethesda really just needs to make PA with special utility effects, rather than just higher or lower resistances that don't matter. Do something like how the Excavator gets extra carry weight or something. I mean, Hellcat could have had increased movement speed for all I care, but as is, if you have t-65 its pointless to get

[@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames]

All added power armour but t65 have a gimic with them. Strangler heart provides a acid damage buff, union provides acid resistance and carry weight similar to excavator, hellcats damage reduction being a nullifyier means it will scale perfectly with ballistic damage as it rises sense it lowers damage before the armour kicks in. They haven't been adding bigger numbers. Just unique gimics which you are asking for.

[@Magnusthepapa]

Strangler heart was perfect with it's acidic affects A little bit less defense for a bit more offense Like i think T-65 should have had like a Innate Chameleon perk as a set bonus due to it being secret service, or just something other than a stat bump I'd like to see some high tier power armor that is themed around the raiders that has a melee specific effect

[@thorveim1174]

to be fair the hellcat's protection is pretty special since its % based (which has way more impact than just DR since DR has diminishing returns making going past 320 less and less useful), and against ballistic damage, the ONE damage type you cannot perk against whatsoever (energy has electric absorbtion, poison has funky duds, fire has fireproof and a funky duds equivalent, rad has what rads. Think that leaves only the barely used cold damage unattended for, and as mentioned, ballistics)

[@alfonsotovar895]

I believe the reason the mods are expensive is because of the fact that the power armor itself is easy to get and since it rivals T-65 Bethesda had to compromise.

[@torsteinnorbertson]

Yes, i think the prices are fair for the other PA and their mods cost vast amounts of gold bullion and vault steel.

[@xoloman846]

Yeah it's fair, plus it looks cool

[@Slybby]

@@torsteinnorbertson Hellcat Mods dont cost vault steel.

[@torsteinnorbertson]

@@Slybby You're right, but i never said that Hellcat costs Vault Steel. I said that OTHER Powerarmortypes cost Vault Steel and a lot of Gold Bullion. That's the reason why i think the high prices for Hellcat plans are quite fair, imo they could even be more expensive.

[@BoJangles42]

Yeah God forbid Bethesda allow you to earn something awesome in 76 via a quest without some ridiculous ass grind attached to it

[@KLGChaos]

Will definitely be Hellcat for me. Electric Absorption is all I need to counteract the lower energy resist.

[@niteip187]

I had no idea Electric Absorption has a chance to ignore damage? Doesn't say so on the perk card. Might start using it now

[@degustace_youtube]

@@niteip187 it doesnt, it heals you when taking energy damage.

[@KLGChaos]

@@niteip187 It doesn't just ignore damage- it heals you. It's not listed on the card, but devs said the healing was intended. Even with one rank, I no longer fear Assaultron lasers.

[@niteip187]

@@KLGChaos ok thanks, if I knew that I would've maxed it already

[@Ian-ie3hy]

I run t65 and the grounded mutation. Even the imposter squatch laser beam tickles...I think electric absorption is not necessary...I could be wrong tho..

[@protocolsummit103]

This is the right time for people like me who don't use PA to get into it. Between the Legendary Crafting for PA and the new and sick look of the Hellcat, I can see it easily taking over the meta since it is more of a treat to try and get into PA now. I'll be re-watching your other Big Guns and PA videos to get a grip on this season's stuff.

[@Wyrmshield]

Excavator does just fine for wanting to get into PA builds. You get it for free from a quest and the mods are bought with caps, plus the extra carry weight for all your fusion cores and ammo

[@nocturnechanson]

Excavators was my favorite for a long time. But then I wanted a jet pack now XO-1 is my go to. I still carry my excavator though because with calibrated shocks that +200 carry weight is hard to beat. 😃

[@joejoejoe834]

I will stick with the T65 for now since I busted my ass grinding for it

[@chefbreccia2642]

I'm mostly with you on that one. I might change my mind and have a set of both later on -- when I have enough extra cores to actually make a decent set.

[@Hukkzor]

Good choice since its overall better than Hellcat. Ballistic damage mostly comes from random enemies that arent doing a lot of damage(Raiders, scorched etc), so while Hellcat is still a great set of armor, it is only better than T65 against enemies that arent dangerous.

[@TomaszMisiowiec]

This was helpful, as always :) Thanks for taking the time to do all these tests :)

[@chalupamonsters23]

Personally I'm sticking with the T-65 PURELY because I love how it looks over the Hellcat. The Hellcat does look fantastic, but I just really love the look of the T-65 even more. Doesn't hurt that I also already have all the mods for it too. Maybe once I can get my hands on the Hellcat mods and they release some paint jobs for it I may change my mind, but time shall tell I guess.

[@Slybby]

@Home PC T 65 cost 8500 Gold bullion for me. Hellcat costs 8200 with the same Mods. so its not that cheaper. In fact all T65 helmet mods are free and they are extremly expensive on the Hellcat. so if you want more than one mod is even more expensive than the T65. And you can use Season Event T65 skins on the Hellcat. so if its only look you can make the Hellcat look like the T65.

[@Slybby]

@Home PC and the mods ONLY the mods cost 8200 Gold bullion. 3k calibrated shocks 2k emergency protokols 3k see living creatures everything else is very useless in my eyes for PA. and 200 for less AP cost with heavy mele attacks

[@Slybby]

@Home PC whats a bummer?

[@Slybby]

@Home PC why? its the best Power Armor ingame. You cant overspent then. Rad is unimportant in PA Energie armor is unimportant if you use the legendary perk. so its all about Ballistic damage. and for that its the best armor ingame. And i was on gold bullion cap on release (5k) allready got a full t65 and ss armor. no idea what else should i spend all this stuff. allready back close to 2k so im fine.

[@Dylpickle0806]

@@Slybby the point is… Hellcat is better also free and it looks better you don’t have to get the mods to make the PA good at least you get it for absolutely free of no charge.

[@calum3728]

I was hoping the B.O.S paint bundle would include hellcat paint or at least a black paint version.

[@benjaminsetala2726]

Yeah i was disappointed by that too

[@archivistdoc5272]

Well, hellcat is not bos armor. It's from the mercenary group.

[@Neuutralized]

@@archivistdoc5272 Neither is X-01

[@archivistdoc5272]

@@Neuutralized that's an enclave creation..

[@LouisKing995]

@@archivistdoc5272Yeah but you get by completing the story line and killing a bunch of hellcats so obviously the BOSS would have confiscated some suits

[@WrexFX]

Glad to see this vid cause I just got this reward and though I LOVE my t-65 I absolutely am digging how the hellcat PA looks. I do like to switch up my armors for variety sake sometimes anyway unless im doing something that requires my best gear... But since statistically this set also runs a close enough race with the 65 to not put me out much I feel I can use and enjoy this set more than I woulda otherwise. Thanks for the info again AT. And the red optics guard IS a nice touch. Btw got an assassins 3 star t-65 arm to drop as a reward from the first post update daily Op so fingers crossed everyone has a good first few days post update with their drops.

[@kingcrimson9171]

i like the hellcat armor because it lets my heavy gunner roleplay as a space marine

[@prestongarvey6535]

I should run my mercenary company now with that outfit and PA honestly both makes an lovely faction

[@ads3827]

@Angry Turtle Good video. I'm actually set to get my final mod for the T-65 power armor tomorrow. It has taken me over a month to get it's I haven't been consistent with it. On a side note, thank you for a previous video you did warning us about upgrading our weapons and losing our perks/effects on weapons. My teammate and I were going to upgrade our 2* vampires explosive laser rifles to 3*s. I'm so glad I saw your video the day before the release of steel reign. We definitely would have been devastated, haha.

[@dmcbryde34729]

I'd be very interested in seeing how each performs against melee attacks. Personally I find incoming melee hits to be the most dangerous in game. Ideally testing each with and without Blocker equipped against the same enemy.

[@seanferrell9244]

Thank you for testing this Turtle!

[@DrClawizdead]

I'm currently using the Hellcat. As you say, PA is more than enough to make up the lower energy resist. The mods are pretty expensive but you do get this armor for free so it balances out with the T-65 set I feel.

[@Mr_HouseHaus]

This was helpful, I got so far 4 peices with 3 star legendary and my energy resistance is about 6% better so my Hellcat is almost exactly like T 65 just need better rads resistance.

[@jonasstahl9826]

Rad resistence doesnt matter in PA you get 90% Rad reduced by the PA effect. If you get 1.6 rads or 1.55 because it has more resistence doesnt matter enough to worry about. If your play fulllife get "What rads" at 2 stars.

[@kenikuno1634]

The helmet actually does provide a 2% ballistic reduction. It's a hidden effect, but you can clearly see that it does in the code. TYR has a video about it.

[@TheBrokensaintvxvx]

Looking forward to the day this gets modded into FO4

[@davidandrex2]

Do you have plans to do a guide for what the new gold trader has to offer and where she spawns?

[@patangman2117]

I just got done finishing off my T65 and now need to add some legendary effects (reluctantly). I'm going to stick with my investment of time. 10 percent more ballistic protection isn't worth the mindless grind. Plus it is unlikely I will even use it considering it doesn't come with unyielding effect any more. Less synergy with low health build. The only good thing however with legendary effect on power armor is the new armor pieces you can locate. The conversion rate in script is higher than legendary weapons. Unlike when scrapping a power armor piece where you get a pittance compared to regular armor. I think 1 molded plastic and composite? 45 scripts is nice for garbage legendary effects.

[@RobertSheehan2w2]

I hope they add the Hellcat to the list of PAs that the Atom Shop Paints work on. I think the Hellcat would look awesome with the Santa Slay Paint Job!

[@The_Bacon_Dragon]

This is gonna be another great Power Armor that someone will eventually recreate and mod into Fallout 4.

[@MidlifeProjects]

I'm sticking with my Strangler Heart Armour for now. Acid Damage with shots and if attacked seems to be better return on investment for the gold... :-)

[@rickx723]

Likewise.

[@HalBreden]

Another great comparison video. Thanks for doing these!

[@deplorablecovfefe9489]

I'll stick with my t65. Especially now I have a few skins for it. Never have to repair it anyway.

[@Idothinkysaurus]

I'm pretty surprised with the Hellcat armour's appearance. It's very cool.

[@imbatmam4760]

For anyone curious that is about to get hellcat or who are trying to get hellcat as soon as you get the mission and complete it which is called the catalyst I believe soon as you complete you get the plans and you also get a free full suit of hellcat powers armor with a fusion core so you don't have to build it right away and waste materials

[@simplynotthere4726]

I still need 2000 gold for the calibrated shocks, but damn hellcat looks so badass. Very awesome design. Soooo glad it's not a skin!

[@ruudvanzanten9119]

no matter if its better or not.. the hellcat , in my opion, is the most badass looking power armor to date :D :D

[@TesGon]

To Me- vertibird armor looks better.

[@deplorablecovfefe9489]

Okay, finally a video answering a question I have in the exact same circumstance.

[@toxic_razz6423]

The strangler armor poison damage is working now. Can we see how that compares to the new hellcat. If the damage resist isn’t that much of a difference, the extra poison damage will be nice. Also the patch notes said they changed dodgy again but idk exactly what they changed.

[@RafaelSantos-pi8py]

Is the poison damage back to what used to be?

[@toxic_razz6423]

@@RafaelSantos-pi8py no idea, I’m just going off of what innovsurvivalist said. She didn’t test it, just was going over things that changed but didn’t get mentioned.

[@nightgod555]

Maybe he can do a full tier list of the power armors showing where each has it's best parts

[@tristanbowles5174]

I believe that they just made it so that dodgy properly consumes AP when being hit by consecutive shots. I noticed I was having more AP drain after the update.

[@Hopalongtom]

Strangler poison is doing 0 damage right now.

[@Bakarishot]

Naaaaa it took me a month to farm T-65 and seeing how the hellcat can compete with T-65 upsets me they need to buff T-65.

[@FlyingWarChariot]

Barely and only with ballistic resistance. You’re good.

[@austinhawkins3307]

What would they even buff though? The T-65 already has diminishing returns on ALL of it's resistances. Even if you gave each one an extra 100, the increase to the actual amount resisted would be so marginal it wouldn't matter.

[@FlyingWarChariot]

@@austinhawkins3307 Maybe if they introduced a new upgrade we are capable of doing... like infusing pieces with a element to strength it further. Jeff gardener said the Pitt update should allow more replay ability, maybe it could be harder.

[@raventhc8847]

T-65 is already like playing in God-mode. I use PA and I don't think it's need any buff as now T-65 also have legendary effect which make it far superier than before.

[@LouisKing995]

@@austinhawkins3307Give it like a juicy reflection perk , like ricochet on crack. It’s build like a tank so it makes sense.

[@Mestephra]

It's perfect for me because never did any grinding for PA yet, I'm still trying to finish my set of secret service armor (as a returning player of course lol) So this is awesome news for me, a slap in the face for others. I was running ultracite pa for a long time, I always thought "meh good enough". The mods are expensive but I think it's only because we're handed this for free, I might still try for t65 if it's as good as people say

[@Chr1551]

T-65 will also be much better in nuke zones or other high rad situations.

[@NizarElZarif]

all power armor gives 90% radidation reduction, which is calculated before radatiation resistance, so while the T65 will be better, it will be only marginally much better. You can always take a Rad-x or a Rad-x diluted to get even lower radiation.

[@Slybby]

90% + rad resist and with diminishing return and the high number of 90% you can have 2000 rad resist and its not even 92% so its not worth anything.

[@danishcannoli7088]

@@NizarElZarif rad shield instead of rad-x

[@Chr1551]

I notice a big difference between PA with only about 300 rad resist and PA with 500.

[@LCInfantry]

I got a million radaways, might as well use a few instead of selling them by the dozens daily

[@thomashughes9544]

This helps with the mutation armor Pricing on dayly ops cause 2 percent reduction is a armor effect and does not count as the actual total damage resistance

[@KM-jb3vg]

Wow that new power armor looks really good, cannot wait to get that and I like that even though the stats seem worse on it, it actually holds up against the t-65

[@junjiito337]

I only care about looks so definitely going with the Hellcat, haven’t played the new update yet but this makes up for the scoreboard...kinda

[@theneonseal6792]

Think I'm just going to stick mine on an armour stand when I get it.

[@Slybby]

why not use it?

[@theneonseal6792]

@@Slybby I use my Excavator armour all the time and this doesn't seem like a worthwhile replacement. I looks really cool though.

[@Slybby]

@@theneonseal6792 i dont get the excavator armor hype. one of the worst armors. + 100 carry dont help in any battle. useless stupid dump^^ and it looks like shit. in my eyes^^ in fact even the mighty t 65 sucks against 10 or 12? % ballistic reduction and 100 carry ye .. did not protect you or kill stuff.

[@theneonseal6792]

@@Slybby I find that carry weight in this game is a bigger issue than any enemy. I hardly ever die since I got my armour and I need the mining buff for making ammo (another problem bigger than the hostiles in this game). So the Excavator deals with all of my issues just fine. :) Unless there is an armour that gives you invulnerability or unlimited ammo some how, I have no use for it.

[@Slybby]

@@theneonseal6792 i play since beta and never got an ammo problem. in fact i have no use for any power at alll so far. i dont use one but i dont know what to spend my stuf anyway do i buld a good PA^^ still dont calculate if its a t65 or hellcat but its 90% hellcat

[@Andamaie]

It’s pretty dope, and considering the hellcat is practically given to you compared to grinding over 6000 gold for the T-65. Imma stick with Hellcat for now. Seems to be way more time efficient as well as combat efficient

[@ShinTMsk]

Pa hellcat has lower defenses than t51

[@Morderon7]

T65 is better i find information about better balistic resistance missleading i think it wasnt better than t65s. Been checking the numbers and both got like 10 u really cant say HC is better…

[@FormerRuling]

@@Morderon7 it was against a Mr gutsy that can have armor piercing on their ballistic rounds too which slightly skews in HCs favor. In actual simulations t65 almost always beats hellcat against ballistic dmg if enemy has no armor piercing. That said the difference is very minor (literally 1 damage per attack in either direction) so I don't see turtles opinion changing when he says just use excavators instead.

[@FormerRuling]

Regarding price, t65 costs for the plans, but the mods are cheaper than hellcat so their final cost to fully mod arent all that different as you would think.

[@Andamaie]

I should clarify, I meant to put ballistic. Not combat, my bad on that one. I also said for now, I’m still gonna get the T65, the hellcat just makes it a low priority as far as what I spend gold on.

[@williammoore1030]

First PA piece I rolled was an overeaters, ap refresh, 5% poison chance, I am cool with that.

[@OnlineHipHopTV]

I got 2 overreaters parts and a 75% chance to take 15% less damage while standing still. Already feel like a tank and Im using strangler hearth PA

[@maceguy]

I'm level 91 and just got the hellcat armor! Plus I've been working away to buy the T65. So far I have the torso and jetpack :) Thanks for the great video

[@paulgilson2347]

Love the look of it, will look good on the stand in my base but I still never wear power armour, just don't like the feel.

[@neethsuesvoldar3865]

Unrelated to power armor I've noticed that explosive weapons including the legendary effect are actually registering damage wayy better my 2* explosive laser rifle finally does the damages it should against scorched beast along with my missile launcher and mirv my gamma gun even does better I'm able to kill level 100 muties with it I haven't tested it on a player yet but it will really help not only vet players but new players too pvp has changed alot this update is quite exciting

[@LCInfantry]

A lot*

[@kakabixlis]

Thank you really Professor Turtle for testing things for us,you are my go-to scientist for information *hugs* keep rocking and definately i need to make some suits of it,apparently my old sets will be gone cause i need several for various reasons offensive and defencive.My Regards to lil Mitzee and Big Mitzee :D health to you all :D

[@gimmickymoos]

Working on getting an overeaters hellcat set. I have one down, which is more than i expected from one day of crafting.

[@Honu_Ryder]

Soo... hellcat vs. strangler heart? 🤔

[@commandercat2443]

Now we need the Mid west power armor from tactics

looking at the Hellcat, the first thing comes to mind is real life spacesuits, where you need a rear view mirror to look back. there is an actual piece of mirror usually on the arm for the spacemen to look behind. you would need one for the Hellcat too, because you can't look back, not even look sideways. in a real fight, you would be a sitting duck. :) in a T-65/T-60/T-51, at least you can turn your head around.

[@soangry]

The X-01 would like to talk with you.

[@LCInfantry]

A lot of space marine movies / games would also like a word.

[@ChangedCauseYT-HateFoxNames]

I have a word of you would hear a bang and turn around sense the round likely bounced.

[@mancubus1977]

I’m sticking with the bugged Ultracite left Arm Jet Pack and Torso’s Emergency Protocols until Bethesda remove it 😂. Cheers for the guide though Turtle…will be smashing the DLC this weekend.

[@starfoxBR77]

Damm! I was happy with my Ultracite Helmet with Jet Pack... The Arm choice make so much more sense!

[@jcm_808]

@@starfoxBR77 Indeed im sticking with my jetpack arm

[@OnlineHipHopTV]

Yes, the glitched Jetpack is to good give up.

[@TheRealTexasPaul]

Thinking of doing the gold outlay for the T-65 because as of now there are so few paint/skin options for the Hellcat. Have you heard of any additional paint/skin options for the Hellcat armor coming down the pipe? I'm curios why there are so few options for Hellcat armor.

[@AngryTurtle]

all universal paints should work

[@BOSSzombie]

It's a great test, but it's missing one aspect: The Ballistic Damage was tested against a High Level Gutsy that has Armor-Piercing Shots, which means that most, if not all, of the suit's Armor is ignored and only the Reduction is taken into account, meaning the T-65's 42% Ballistic Damage Reduction vs the Hellcat's total of 47.8% Ballistic Damage Reduction, hence why you see an almost 10% difference in the video. Against Hard-Hitting Enemies that don't pierce Armor, like High Level Super Mutants, the T-65 will outperform the Hellcat. Gutsies can be scary, but outside of special circumstances like Daily Ops, there aren't that many enemies that use Armor-Piercing shots. Still a great video though, and a great (and rare) example of Bethesda actually balancing new content with the old by making Hellcat competitive with T-65! You make great analysis videos Turtle!

[@swordfish815508]

Very good video turtle!! great work so fast after the release keep it up!!!! TURTLE ARMY!!!!!!!!

[@Youhoooop9242]

Huh Arent the values overall lower than the t-51 (lvl 50), let alone the T-65?

[@fredericoeusebio9770]

the new hellcat power armor looks great but... not enough to make me change my t65 for 2 reasons: 10% difference in the ballistic test is about 1 point of damage and consistency in not having to mind what kind of enemy I'm fighting is of greater value for me and I'm managed to put jetpack in my t65 arm alongside a core assembly in my torso something I cannot do in the hellcat one....

[@steinlone5454]

Jetpack arm is the only reason why I wanna stick to my T65.

[@Samiqmojo]

So a full set of overeaters hellcat is going to be crazy tanky

[@mehtarelingolien]

I love the red headlight on my Hellcat! It's not as blindingly bright as the rest of them.

[@phoenixdown2.24]

I miss these kind of laser turrets. Whatever they did almost has me afraid of them now as a bloodied build.

[@Drakkarok]

Hello, great content! I would love to make a guide about best foods, chems, alcohols and best int stacking methods for power leveling

[@MichVaugier]

"Let's round it to nine and a half" - Angry Turtle, 2021.

[@serPomiz]

in short, the hellcat is better against the average human/scorch/mine moler, while the T65 is better allaround. the mod grinding is the same from a starting standpoint, so it's a non-issue the hellcat chestpiece have a better look than the "pots and pan" of the 65, the rest I consider more or less equivalent we'll see about the skins side, as some of the older painset would look beutyfull on the hellcat

[@Clarkamadorian]

I like the T65 but it looks so smooth which is my LEAST favorite thing in power armor, like the whole point T51 and T60 was so popular was because they had so much more geometry. Hellcat wins in looks for me, but T65 is better for general defense

[@OpticalGreen]

Well, eventually I will get both of them as legendary, but new players should stick with Hellcat first as it's less to grind for.

[@FormerRuling]

Unmodded its much easier - getting fully modded versions are surprisingly similar timeframes since hellcat mods cost almost as much as t65 plan+mods.

[@elijahfam6217]

It’s really good to use Hellcat with T-65 Helmet for max defense

[@Don_Valentino]

@Angy Turtle why not test melee DMG? i usually tank bosses during raids in PA and the DMG resistance on the hellcat seems pretty low to survive a queen jump/Earle kick

[@babyhandsthegreat]

It's because of its 2% per piece dmg resistance

[@CaptainShahanash]

Hellcat definitely wins in the Style department

[@-db4rf]

In style maybe yeah..👍🏽

[@Clarkamadorian]

I love the hellcat but the helmet just doesn’t feel like a power armor helmet. It feels like a doom slayer helmet, which is ok but it seems weird to me

[@dakotasnyder7111]

Me personally with much i have spent on not just buy the whole set of t65 on my heavy gunner i do just fine in daily ops because he's a vampire explosive user and does just fine but my melee will need hellcat+overeaters+perfect bubble for daily ops and bosses

[@geofflittler2035]

Daft question I know but.....the weight of the armour attaches to the chassis when first awarded was -2. I accidentally scrapped the chassis and the armour pieces unloaded into my inventory. When I fixed them to an empty chassis the weight went up to 10. Any ideas or suggestions as to how to get the weight back down would be greatly appreciated 🙂

[@asmosisyup2557]

It's a bug. After receiving it the first time it leaves your inventory (either to use, or into crafting) it corrects to 10 weight. So you didn't lose anything there, unfortunately it isn't some special frame.

[@nesterfesticle7033]

Dude totally called me today about the overdue car insurance I dont have.

[@Mekbane187]

thank you turtle your videos are always so helpful

[@hwk00to]

But exacavator is better than both because carry weight is king =)

[@FP194]

I have 460 carry weight with just my Secret service armor I only use power armor for boss fights

[@hwk00to]

@@FP194 Ye i don't use PA in general, lose too much stats from unyielding, was just referring to turtle always saying his fave is excavator

[@LCInfantry]

If we didn’t have survival tents and fast traveling ... then I’d say carry weight is very important. I can dream though

[@vinicequintilius6529]

question did they upgrade the nuka cola collettron and not tell any one or did I just miss the memo? It use to just do basic nuka cola now it does all the types

[@corycooper3942]

This video is EXACTLY what I needed to know. Hellcat is the new default for me!

[@Hoigwai]

Love the look of the armor, paint kits could be very fun I think. 8)

[@herbtree5107]

Thanks for the info turtle 🙂

[@titan3025]

Thanks for the comparison. I see the point that hellcat has the 10% ballistic advantage but it has less than 10% more ballistic protection. Do you think overall that it holds up better than T-65? I would’ve been interested to see how long it takes for Mr Gutsy to drain your full health with both power armors. Or does it not matter what the defense value says?

[@LCInfantry]

Did you happen to watch and understand what he was saying in the video? Gelcap is better against ballistic damage but slightly weaker against energy then t65. He explains this

[@titan3025]

@@LCInfantry I understood the explanation with the per hit dmg value. What I am not sure about was if the overall -100 balistic defense value of the hellcat has an implication on the overall survivability

[@SonicSonedit]

I have exact opposite opinion. For PVE - T65 since its a better all-rounder, you will receive less both melee and energy damage, and ballistics in PVE is both rare and not dangerous For PVP - Hellcat, since most of the players use ballistics damage

[@AthenaTheWolf]

Can you do a quick video on where the new vendor person is and where we can expect to find them?

[@thefettofthevoid]

The most important question for me is how it looks with outcast power armor paint

[@johnnatandc]

As I cannot decide... I carry both with me... I know... It is hard for me to pick one. I use Union for every-day tasks and normal events. I switch PA in the following cases: Expeditions -> Hellcat, Daily Ops (Robots, Communists and Aliens) -> T65, Daily Ops (Super Mutants and others) -> Hellcat, Daily Ops (with armor penetration, except aliens) -> Hellcat, Daily Ops (Toxic Blood) -> Union and finally in Public Events (depending on the mobs, except Moonshine) I use Hellcat. In Moonshine I always use Union due to the innate Poison resistance. For the rest of the Public Events I use T65 except when dealing with Super Mutants. For Muated Public Events i apply the same rules than Daily ops. I feel differences and higher survavility rates when doing this

[@firstname745]

Very aggressive looking armor. I love it.

[@ZZMazinger]

How does this change when you take into account full Overeater's on each set? I would imagine that diminishing returns might start to take effect differently between the two... I know this would be impractical to test right now since it's too new to have full sets, but something to consider For example, the results in this video seem to be a little different: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnWQYqN9iKqheKc What do you think?

[@2ndvenus]

I found it better to go T65 because your health doesnt drain as fast in Nuke zones. Radiation does matter. With one of my armor pieces having -15% damage from Scorched and one with -15% damage from supermutants, i ended up with far better resistance than hellcat

[@norsefirefighter]

I find it funny that I almost completed the t-65 missing the leg that’s it and this comes out…. I still need to grind for gold.

[@I.K.E.L.O.S]

Glad I can still stick with my t 65. I would have been so pissed if all that grind was for nothing when a power armor you completed from a quest was on the same level or even surpassed it. Hellcat seems good for those who haven't got t 65 but it seems like if you've already got t 65 your still fine

[@Slybby]

ah did you look the same video? its 10% better against ballistic damage. for Energie you have legendary perk electric absorb that makes you immortal against energie damage even sheepsquatch imposter cant kill you with this perk and for mele you have blocker. and ballistic damage is the most common ingame. i will go for a legendary overeater hellcat. that will push it to nearly 90% resist against ballistic even more against mele and god mode against energie. and this without emergency protokols... lol it will be so funny.

[@capitcha]

@@Slybby T-65 is for all around and radiation while Hellcat is for regular scoreched or mole miner

[@qweewwq7525]

@@Slybby 10% Hellcat get 9 DMG per hit T65 10 DMG yeah sure, so big diffrence XD

[@ArkadianMr]

Someone in redit already tested it,in the case of a bloodied heavy gunner the addition of 10% ballistic damage is negligible.

[@LCInfantry]

It all adds up though

[@kofeyh]

nice to see new loud clompy boi isn't terrible; as a squishy dirty sneak, the very rare times i'll jump into PA I've used X01. Not sure which set T-65 or Hellcat i'll go for eventually. Let's be honest. Probably both.. so much gold bullion. \*sigh\* \*reloads\*

[@iapprovelolis5123]

Question do I need to wear all pieces for the damage reduction to take effect? Sometimes I like to wear masks with power armor

[@alucard4860]

since most shooting mobs use ballistic hellcat would be alot better. i completed my excavator legendaries. got one perfect the rest 2nd best.. once get hellcat thats the next one to work on.

[@thomashughes9544]

My honest opinion is hellcat power armor is better than t65 because of the special effect but now we have union power is better than t65 and hellcat because of the effect 75 extra carry weight and poison resistance the union power armor is especially good doing the scorch beast queen public event especially when the queen spawns scorch miluk kings hunters and sometimes a scorch miluk queen those things are instant death if I don't have poison resistance

[@konstantinatanassov4353]

Apart from that, @Angry Turtle, that else (meaningful) mod can we put on the Hellcat's Helmet, apart from "Targeting HUD"? Is the sensor array (+2 PER) worth the small gold bullion cost? How large is the difference in detection range with or without Sensor Array? I assume, that this is usable for very-low Perception Characters only, where the added benefit would be the largest. Is there any known formula? Does it do more than just +2 PER? Are the Recon Sensors (targeting markers when aiming) worth the 600 gold bullions? Do they work on stealth players?

[@AngryTurtle]

I don't know if any will do much difference in pvp

[@konstantinatanassov4353]

@@AngryTurtle What does the Producer (Bethesda) thing about it? Why having almost useless sensor equipment.

[@mr_coolzzz2128]

The best looking set

[@buzzkillington9680]

Doesn't really fit the fallout aesthetic though...

[@CRYOKnox]

Well the Hellcat us a nice addition for players like me tgat don't like the Ultracite and don't wan't to grind out their 2., 3. or more characters to T65 and Mods. Its a difference grinding gold for a T65 set and a jetpack plus other mods or grind out the jetpack and Mods for a existing set you get for questing.

[@baphometazrael1892]

I can’t really find an answer to my question on KZbin but I scored all the plans to build an Ultracite power armor (300caps each) on top of I scored two pieces of legendary pieces. Is it solid to use or should I look for another? I don’t wanna do T-65/Hellcat becuase of the bullion involved, IM GOOD! Lol but like X-01, T-60, etc. thank you!

[@AngryTurtle]

I'm using excavator myself 😅

[@Bomdenga22]

I keep getting legendary pa drops and I don’t every use pa it’s kinda frustrating now the loot pools even more diluted 🤦‍♂️ I’m not opposed to it being in the game just heavy if not on frames 😂

[@LCInfantry]

Yeah XD heavy as heck! My box filled up quick!

[@mobbie1996]

is there new areas you don't find doing the main mission of the new dlc? what about that big a arena that was on the PTS?

[@nikkiosborne1088]

Goodnight turtle thank you for another video on the power armor

[@tylerwendeln2930]

so basically it's the classic x-01 vs ultracite debate