Animal Protein is Always Associated with Higher Mortality: Dr Barnard

[@georgewilson7808]

FOOD HABITS IN LATER LIFE STUDY was undertaken among five cohorts in Japan, Sweden, Greece and Australia. Legumes were found to be the most important dietary predictor of survival in older people of different ethnicities. The results showed that for every 20 grams (one ounce) increase in daily legumes intake there was an 8% reduction in the risk of death. This study shows that no matter what your ethnic background or where you live, eat more legumes to live longer, especially as you age. Of all the food groups including meat, legumes alone had consistent and statistically significant results.

[@angelahill3556]

Dr B is one of my WFPB heros. He saved my life and he does not even know it. God bless him always! ♥️

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

There's only one Dr B, namely Dr Bulsiewicz. Dr Barnard is Dr Barnard.

[@angelahill3556]

@@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy that is your opinion. Go somewhere else and complain. Some people have nothing better to do. I can call him whatever I want.

[@georgewilson7808]

INTERHEART STUDY, a global case-control study, investigated risk factors for acute myocardial infarction (heart attack) in various populations. It found that a high intake of fruits and vegetables was associated with a lower risk of heart attack, emphasizing the cardiovascular benefits of plant-based foods.

[@mkmstillstackin]

This was a great talk, very informative, and insightful as Dr. B's talks always tend to be! Thanks for airing this, Jeff!

[@jessicaveganjessica2208]

Oh, awesome. 💚 Dr. Barnard...who never ages. He looks just like he did in '99, truly. From the first minute, I can tell he's going to give an amazing talk. Thank you, Jeff!

[@dianaalexdaniel]

Awesome, Video, I am a 12 years Vegan Lady and I enjoyed Warching and Listening to his Wonderful, Speech, he is a Amazing, Doctor, sincerely, Diana Lipski, Vegan Linked videos are Awesome, Great Job 👍

[@xperience-evolution]

I had the argument with someone that meat is ultra processed food just a few weeks ago but with an other reason. We are not able to eat a whole pig or bite into a living cow. The fur, the skin, the bones, etc. are all not part of you ready to cook/eat meat. And of course all the antibiotics are not part of a whole food. The animal is not whole anymore while the Apple, the broccoli, the berries, the mushrooms etc. are

[@adamjames1375]

The apple is a part of the entire organism, the tree. Most of which is inedible. In the case of most animals, most of their entirety is edible & nutritious.

[@VeganLinked]

When people eat animals they are eating higher up the food chain and each trophic level up 90% of energy is lost. So unless you can dispute the law of thermodynamics, your comment is completely debunked.

[@VeganLinked]

Plants create all of the essential nutrients we need. When you try to eat an animal to get nutrients that came from plants, well it's like trying to get oxygen from a cow fart.

[@VeganLinked]

The animal metabolized nutrients from the plant, in the process it used those antioxidants. And that is why plants on average have 64 times more antioxidants than animals. Furthermore eating animals causes inflammation. So by eating animals you're getting more inflammation with less antioxidants to offset metabolism. When this is chronic it can be very insidious before you realize it. And that's why the best studies look at strong end points like mortality and chronic disease. And the totality of evidence makes it clear a well-planned vegan diet is healthy and appropriate for every stage of life and reduces risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality. Eating animals increases risk for both.

[@11235Aodh]

@@VeganLinked Excellent metaphor, love it! (not the farts)

[@xperience-evolution]

I can listen to Bernard for hours. He is so calm. Thanks for the Video

[@nothingness4884]

Dr Barnard is awesome.

[@VeganLinked]

@@nothingness4884 thanks so much for watching and commenting and being a member! It helps me keep the cameras rolling 💚💪💚

[@Master_Roach]

I told my coworker I went vegan and he got offended and said "you know I'm a hunter right?"

[@monicasong427]

Human hunting only cause ecological destruction. In the U.S. alone, human hunters dump millions of pounds of lead into the environment every single year. Making human hunters the leading cause of lead poisoning and pollution.

[@CristinaAcosta]

Your choice was all about him🧐

[@pit2ryan3]

@Jeremy - Does he hunt vegans?

[@anir8023]

Shaolin warrior monks eat meat, non warriors don’t, in ancient Athens free citizens ate meat, slaves did not.

[@Master_Roach]

@@anir8023 your point?

[@rutasoltanpour7810]

Great topic! Thank you, Dr. Barnard 💚

[@sannajohanna5579]

Abuse of animals = abuse of people. We are Oneness.

[@chefbus2537]

Then why do you go out of your way to abuse people?

[@ElsjeMassyn]

@@chefbus2537 Little TROLL - find someone else to harass. L.O.L.

[@ElsjeMassyn]

@Sannajohanna5579 Its so true - we run full circle. Our end is self-destruction if we make our bodies a graveyard. Were killing ourselves slowly but surely when we abuse and kill animals for food, entertainment or other.

[@febo2367]

Animals have it worse

[@saldoug7467]

What about abuse of plants ??

[@elsjemassyn8921]

Thanks our TRUTH doctor. Love you lots Please live to be a 100 we need you ♥️

[@gioargentati7802]

Excellent talk! Thank you for posting!!!

[@GreenVegan816]

Excellent talk and explanation of how meat is actually a processed food. Love this talk by Dr. Barnard! Thank you, Jeff, for recording this for us.

[@Benjimikey]

Hold your dog, cat or rabbit in your arms and fell the love and energy. Hold a calf a lamb a piglet in your arms and that same energy exists you would not want to eat that energy.

[@pit2ryan3]

@Benji - Try and hold a lion too...

[@Sergio2006A]

Great work, Jeff! Always a treat when Dr. Barnard is featured.

[@lanazak773]

Keep these informative videos coming! My friends and family think this stuff is propaganda. Only studies like this on affecting their health will change their minds. You are doing great work ❤

[@deanramsey95]

Great perspective on what is a processed food, and what processed foods are truly doing the most damage to our bodies

[@johnpyles3575]

Since I am not a lumnivore (light 💡 ☀️ eater, like plants), I eat plants which contain processed light.

[@VeganLinked]

@@johnpyles3575 That's enlightening

[@veganninja5886]

Great presentation. Thank you for sharing.

[@lakehuron7733]

Terrific talk!

[@bohditony]

Always a sobering reminder ❤

[@moniquem868]

THANK YOU for warning about the upsetting pictures!

[@jared_per]

I thought I could handle it; and I did. But I wish I didn't see it. I wasn't as prepared as I thought.

[@jared_per]

@RC-qf3mp I recommended researching feed conversion ratios. Animals are fed 4 times the amount of calories we get from them in food. Meaning 4 times the land and small animals killed for beef than what you'd get just eating the plants directly. If you truly care about these small animals, which you should, you'd still want to go vegan.

[@Petunia-fl9lu]

did you get shown abuse of animals from asian countries? cause that's not what happens in other countries.

[@VeganLinked]

@@Petunia-fl9lu watch earthlings and Dominion. Animal exploitation inevitably ends up in the most grotesque abuse all over the planet. So the goal is to end animal exploitation. We have reached a point in our evolution where we do not depend on exploiting animals and can systematically step away from it.

[@VeganLinked]

@@RC-qf3mp The worst crop deaths are the ones going to feed animal agriculture since they want the cheapest. These are monocrops that are the most pesticide and herbicide laden. If you're worried about crop deaths then stop eating animals because you're causing exponentially astronomically more crop deaths in addition to even more intentional killing. Furthermore you might want to check out a veganic farm, I've toured several and have not seen any animals being killed. Then go to a slaughterhouse and tell me which one you think is worse. And you might want to watch earthlings and Dominion

[@pauljones5066]

the idea that cereals are unhealthy is so unintuitive its ridiculous

[@wenshu888]

I would say that it is highly intuitive to avoid something that is loaded with indigestible proteins, fibre that causes irritation and health damage and massive amounts of carbohydrate that spike blood sugar leading to tissue damage and diabetes.

[@baconcraving3259]

@@wenshu888 Vegans have a hard time acknowledging that blood sugar spikes are damaging to the body. Afterall, vegans eat mostly carbs

[@Mrm1985100]

Very good video

[@VeganLinked]

thanks, please share~! :)

[@afikcjainternetarchive4775]

Thank You

[@Osc1llateW1ldly]

I refuse to believe that Dr. Neil Barnard doesn't have a picture of himself in the attic 🌱✌

[@MichaelToub]

Great Video!

[@mortytvvv]

dr Barnard the animals hero

[@mortytvvv]

💚💚💚

[@sannajohanna5579]

These days I think: I am so happy to be vegan! It is an amazing adcenture to new tastes, and to realise how vaste is the world of plants and the possibilities to make wonderful dishes! My cats are not vegan, though. But my younger female cat is on its way: she really liked pressed virgin almond oil that I use to clean my make up. She joins ne every evening in the bathroom and wants a teaspoon of almond oil. She does not like lax oil - she prefers almond oil! She also loves tomatoes. Her fur is shinning and thick, her nails are truly sharp (my poor sessels..) - thanks to the daily dose of almond oil, I quess. When I prepare my vegan dish, trying something new, I feel awe!

[@VeganLinked]

@@chiclett Yes cats are true carnivores. But they actually have a vegan cat food now that gives them the essential amino acids they need to thrive. I recently released a video with a man named Hunter who used to be a hunter and has a micro sanctuary and has a cat that is eating a vegan cat food and the cat is doing excellent.

[@sannajohanna5579]

I cannot understand how someone grows living beings for to be killed. Even the idea makes me lose my appetite.

[@NORMLfan13]

And they’re killed as babies, bred to put on adult weight that will likely crush their bones in the few short months before they die horribly! Utterly disgusting the system that is place and everyone is complacent with!

[@tedjohansen6535]

Folks, please note that correlation does not equal causation. There are many possible indirect reasons the animal protein mortality risk correlation would predictably and could possibly be inflated. These need to be addressed (ideally using control groups in a proper study) to have a cogent position on this topic. Epidemiology is weak evidence, but should be noted to be weak evidence on its own. Here's just one counterpoint to consider, based on physiology and observations in nature. Non human animals' cellular biology thrives running on saturated fat. Herbivores turn plants into saturated fat (using dedicated organs and microbes). Carnivores eat saturated fat. Humans are very bad at turning plants into saturated fat (our appendix appears to be a shrunken vestigial organ leftover from our ape ancestors who presumably lived on plant foods) - so I would presume, until proven wrong, that humans are facultative carnivores who thrive on meat and get by on plants during hard times. This is similar to how we thrive on aerobic energy synthesis and get by on anaerobic energy synthesis during hard times. Still thanks for what I did learn about issues and nuances in the animal foods industry!

[@VeganLinked]

@@tedjohansen6535 If you look across different animals you will see that different animals have different fat needs. One clue is in human breast milk compared to other mammals. Human breast milk is significantly lower in saturated fat. Furthermore, there are many studies on every level of the hierarchy of evidence pointing at more plants better human outcomes. Lastly we only have two essential fatty acids that we need to get from the diet and those are found in plants. For example alpha linolenic acid requirements are point 1.6 g for the average adult, the elongated form is only needed in infancy. The 1.6 g we can get from a serving of seeds and nuts or just eating whole plant foods in general. Or you can take an algae supplement. Some people get it from fish but the fish get it from algae. Fish bioaccumulated environmental toxins heavy metals deadly pathogens etc and are gravely overfished. So at the end of the day there's a reason why human health outcomes are better for those on a well-planned vegan.

[@VeganLinked]

@@tedjohansen6535 also the appendix appear to be more immune function related. We ferment fibers in the colon into short chain fatty acids like butyrate and propionate that are beneficial for colonocytes and triggering hunger signals in the brain. The Academy of nutrition and dietetics is the largest organization of nutritionist and dietitians in the world and they clearly state that a well planned vegan diet is healthy and appropriate for every stage of life including pregnancy, lactation, etc. basically every large Health organization, even the most science-based that no one person can eclipse support this statement.

[@VeganLinked]

@@tedjohansen6535 Furthermore, you can see that I have people on my channel that have been vegan for many decades so I'm probably longer than you've been alive. And they don't have any of the average person's health issues. So we have much more than correlation we have long time anecdotes long-time anecdotes that are consistent with the science. We also have things like the American College of Lifestyle medicine, nutritionfacts.org, Physicians committee for responsible medicine, Hippocrates Wellness, True North, etc. and there is no carnivore equivalence to any of these things.

[@christopherlee4796]

Your missing one key point. We are not herbivores, carnivore or even omnivore. We get everything we need to thrive from fruit and some soft tender greens, like the tips of certain leaves or lettuce. We just like our genetically closest living primate relatives the chimpanzee and Bonobo are frugivores.

[@slewfoot6608]

​@@VeganLinkedhumans BEEN EATING MEAT for MILLIONS of years. We didn't grow big brains by eating CORN.

[@Djcoward]

Any good books for an individual who exercises a lot, contemplating veganism?

[@VeganLinked]

@@Djcoward I don't know maybe this one by Bradie Crandall: amzn.to/4fjOdYc He's in his early twenties, a strongman, powerlifter, biochemist with his PhD.

[@VeganLinked]

@@Djcoward and then there's Robert Cheeke who's a pretty well-known bodybuilder I guess in the vegan community. I have interviews with both of these guys on my channel too amzn.to/3YjPWqp

[@VeganLinked]

@@Djcoward both of those seem to be related to lifting I guess or being an athlete. Robert also has a newer one that's more about veganism I guess amzn.to/3A8LgJN

[@llicit1833]

Sigma Nutrition has a good podcast worth a listen (Is Unprocessed Red Meat Problematic for Our Health?). More than 150g/day (or 1/3 pound) of red meat is consistently associated with multiple negative health outcomes. Figure for processed meat is approx. 50/g day

[@damienwilliams5364]

💯 ❤

[@elenaserrato5558]

Thank you for pull out those myths

[@danpan001]

Japanese would say different. A lot of protein from Seafood

[@Dr.Angela2180]

So, are all animals, including humans, overly processed machines? Why not start by discussing the conscience of the food processing industry to promote the production of high-quality whole foods?

[@VeganLinked]

@@Dr.Angela2180 I guess if you want to talk about eating humans we could consider discussing that but until then I don't see how it's relevant.

[@VeganLinked]

He's saying they are processing factories because they're being exploited as food. He's showing how by trying to get nutrients from them that they got from plants we are getting something that's been processed. Think about trophic levels and how 90% of energy is lost each step up the food chain. That's because the animal metabolized nutrients from plants resulting in plants having on average 64 times more antioxidants. Plants are the true whole Food. And this doctor has many different talks, this is just one of many... And there's various doctors covering all kinds of other angles including addressing food systems.

[@LinhPhamVietNam]

Why is saturated fat bad for your health? What century are we in?

[@VeganLinked]

@@LinhPhamVietNam Saturated fat has been linked to several adverse health outcomes. Key reasons include: 1. **Heart Disease**: Saturated fat can raise low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol levels in the blood, which increases the risk of heart disease and stroke. 2. **Inflammation**: High intake of saturated fats can lead to chronic inflammation, contributing to cardiovascular diseases and other health issues. 3. **Obesity**: Foods high in saturated fats are often calorie-dense, contributing to weight gain and obesity, which are risk factors for various health problems. 4. **Insulin Resistance**: High saturated fat intake can impair insulin sensitivity, leading to increased risk of type 2 diabetes. 5. **Liver Disease**: Excessive saturated fat can lead to non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD). 6. **Cognitive Decline**: Some studies suggest that high saturated fat intake may be associated with cognitive decline and increased risk of Alzheimer's disease. 7. **Cancer**: There is some evidence linking high saturated fat intake to an increased risk of certain cancers, such as breast and colorectal cancer. Overall, reducing saturated fat intake and replacing it with unsaturated fats is recommended for better health outcomes.

[@VeganLinked]

@@LinhPhamVietNam it's the 21st century where you can actually look up virtually anything you want to learn about on the internet.

[@VeganLinked]

@@LinhPhamVietNam Here are several systematic reviews and randomized controlled trials (RCTs) that show the negative health effects of saturated fat: 1. **Effects of Saturated Fat, Polyunsaturated Fat, Monounsaturated Fat, and Carbohydrate on Glucose-Insulin Homeostasis: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Randomised Controlled Feeding Trials**: This study reviewed RCTs examining the effects of different fats on glucose-insulin homeostasis. It found that diets high in saturated fat worsened insulin sensitivity compared to diets high in monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fats. 2. **Saturated Fat and Cardiometabolic Risk Factors, Coronary Heart Disease, Stroke, and Diabetes: A Fresh Look at the Evidence**: This review highlighted that replacing saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat reduced the risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD). Saturated fats were associated with increased LDL cholesterol, a key risk factor for heart disease. 3. **Cochrane Review on Reducing Saturated Fat Intake and Cardiovascular Disease**: This comprehensive review included 15 RCTs and found that reducing saturated fat intake led to a 17% reduction in cardiovascular events. However, it did not significantly alter the risks of all-cause mortality, cardiovascular mortality, or stroke. 4. **Saturated Fat and Human Health: A Protocol for a Methodologically Innovative Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis**: This ongoing study aims to address methodological limitations of previous studies on saturated fats. Preliminary findings suggest that high saturated fat intake is linked to increased cholesterol levels and other adverse health outcomes. These studies collectively indicate that high intake of saturated fats is associated with negative effects on cardiovascular health, glucose metabolism, and overall disease risk.

[@VeganLinked]

@@LinhPhamVietNam this time I will include dates to remind you of what century we are in. Here are some of the most recent systematic reviews and meta-analyses examining the health effects of consuming saturated fats from animals: 1. **"Saturated fat, the estimated absolute risk and certainty of risk for mortality and major cancer and cardiometabolic outcomes: an overview of systematic reviews" (2021)**: This review summarized findings from multiple systematic reviews and meta-analyses on the association of saturated fat intake with mortality, cancer, and cardiometabolic outcomes. The results indicated that higher intake of saturated fat was associated with small but significant increases in the risk of coronary heart disease, stroke, and type 2 diabetes 2. **"Substitution of animal-based with plant-based foods on cardiometabolic health and all-cause mortality: a systematic review and meta-analysis of prospective studies" (2023)**: This meta-analysis focused on the health impacts of replacing animal-based foods high in saturated fats with plant-based alternatives. The study found that such substitutions were associated with lower risks of cardiovascular disease and all-cause mortality, highlighting the benefits of reducing saturated fat intake from animal sources 3. **"Association of saturated fatty acids with cancer risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis" (2023)**: This comprehensive review analyzed data from 55 studies on the relationship between saturated fatty acid intake and cancer risk. The findings showed a significant positive correlation between high levels of saturated fat intake and an increased risk of various cancers, including breast, colorectal, and pancreatic cancers. The overall conclusion was that higher saturated fat consumption is linked to greater cancer risk 4. **"Effects of dietary fat on reproductive performance of sows and growth performance of piglets: a systematic review and meta-analysis" (2023)**: Although this study was primarily focused on animal models, it provided insights into the broader implications of dietary fat intake. The findings indicated that high saturated fat intake adversely affected reproductive performance and growth outcomes, suggesting potential negative health impacts that could extend to humans These studies collectively support the notion that high intake of saturated fats from animal sources is associated with increased risks of cardiovascular disease, certain cancers, and other health issues. The evidence suggests that reducing saturated fat intake and replacing it with healthier alternatives can lead to better health outcomes.

[@VeganLinked]

@@LinhPhamVietNam it's interesting you should ask what century we are in because I often wonder if people eating animals know.

[@christopherlee4796]

I like to think about what food you would be attracted to if you lived in nature, in our natural habitat. Say you woke up in the forest with complete amnesia and you were alone and hungry. You see a rabbit hopping by. Does it make your mouth water or do you think cute! It’s hopping through a field of green and eating the plants. Does that seem appetizing? Then you notice a squirrel eating these little brown Rock looking things hanging on a tree. Maybe you try one and discover it’s really tough to open and it forwent taste that great anyways. Not me. Then you smell a sweet perfume and turn and notice large brightly reddish orange colored smooth glistening round things hanging from a tree and as you aproach and grab one it feels nice in your hands then you put it up to your face and smell it deeply with satisfaction before you tear into it and discover it’s better than anything you’ve ever eaten. And you realize there are hundreds more of the same and millions of different variants and you are doing zero harm to the tree, in fact you are helping its propagation in life by discarding the seed into the ground away from under the tree.

[@leemanwrong]

Yep and then you get sick from nutrient deficiency.

[@christopherlee4796]

@@leemanwrong how do you figure?

[@christopherlee4796]

@@leemanwrong it’s sad how we’ve been so programmed and brainwashed

[@11235Aodh]

@@leemanwrong Can you point me to one such case of nutrient deficiency on a vegan diet without also under-eating calories?

[@christopherlee4796]

@@11235Aodh There is a very important key that most people fail to realize; If you have spent any number of years consuming the standard conventional cooked diet (weather it’s animal based vegetarian or even vegan,) Water fasting long enough and properly is key to give the body a chance to rid the old wastes in your gut, blood vessels, organs, bones, etc. while simultaneously healing any trauma that can be healed, creating a much more efficient and natural body like we are supposed to have anyways.

[@uog293]

This is a good thought experiment but how to combat "plant factory"

[@greenprincess]

​@@VeganLinked probably means that plants make "processed" food through photosynthesis, combating it seems easy because using this logic it just means plants are way less processed than animals.

[@VeganLinked]

@@greenprincess all the essential nutrients start in the plant factory, they become reduced each step up a trophic level. Is the implication we become breatharians and stare at the Sun?

[@VeganLinked]

So in other word, the lowest trophic level are "the producers", plants. They produce the energy, oxygen, and nutrients we need.

[@MrSash47]

Best

[@joecaner]

Hot Dog! Lucky Charms and Little Debbies are back on the menu! Not my menu, but somebody's menu. Hot dogs are right out.

[@VeganLinked]

@@joecaner those weren't really the focus here, hopefully that's not what you got out of this one

[@joecaner]

@@VeganLinked Understood. Dr. Barnard made that pretty clear. If a majority of people were to follow his recommendations, Big Pharma would become a boutique industry and the general health would improve dramatically.

[@joecaner]

@@VeganLinked Understood. I believe that Dr. Barnard made that clear. Regards

[@NathanBlackberry]

Choose Veganism😊🙏💚

[@slewfoot6608]

MEAT is NOT the most processed food!!! LIARS

[@VeganLinked]

Actually you're right because it's not food. But when you eat it you're eating something processed. First the animal was artificially inseminated into existence through a very unnatural process. And this is because it's so gravely unsustainable. Then they end up in a concentrated animal feeding operations where they get supplemented and abused until finally going through the slaughtering process. Then they go through a cleaning process, packaging, refrigeration, transportation, until you eventually purchase it to cook it and season it with whole plant foods. And when you try to get nutrients this way, you're getting them from an animal that acquired the nutrients from plants. All of the essential nutrients come from plants with their symbiotic relationship between the sun, air, water, soil and bacteria. So all of the essential amino acids and fatty acids for example are made by plants. Of course carbohydrates come together and micronutrients are pulled pulled into or synthesized by the plant. The animal you eat acquired nutrients from plants. Their body metabolized the plant for their body's specific needs. And when you move up the food chain atrophic level 90% of energy is lost through metabolism. And this is why plants have on average 64 times more antioxidants. And most chronic diseases are very much based in inflammation from eating within the Animal Kingdom. Meanwhile plants are the most anti-inflammatory. I even have a video on my channel comparing the current profiles between plants and animals. And when you actually compare plants have the best profile of nutrients and overall package deal. But more importantly human outcomes are in favor of a well planned whole food vegan diet reducing risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality. So yeah animal is extremely processed. It's processed in every way you look at it. Even the food and agricultural organization only classifies whole foods as being plants. Close to 80% of global food intake is planned but only about 17% is whole Food. The rest is processed with a lot of it being tainted by animal secretion. And animals make up about 20% of global food intake. But they use about 80% of agricultural land, which is to be expected when considering thermodynamics. I have a video on that too, it's called "vegan's kill".

[@VeganLinked]

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it's a lie.

[@43angk]

Seventh day Adventist own Sanitarium, Kellog' and who fund all University nutrition course, fund you and all studies.

[@VeganLinked]

@@43angk wow, when am I going to get my check?

[@11235Aodh]

Luckily a lot of valuable science has already come before this, look up the works of Walter Kempner, Denis Burkitt, Roy Swank.

[@shadyshaun2389]

A load of shit i was vegetarian felt like shit went carnivor for 6 months now feel like a new man

[@VeganLinked]

@@shadyshaun2389 what does vegetarian have to do with anything? Dairy is basically liquid meat. That has nothing to do with the diet that this doctor is advocating and the people on this channel, many of which who have been vegan probably longer than you've been alive and are thriving without any health issues. Just because you tried something doesn't mean you know what you were doing. And transient results on your elimination fad diet, like all diets have, only create hypotheses. What matters most are human outcomes in regard to reducing risk for chronic disease, quality healthspans and end points like all cause mortality. A well-planned vegan diet is healthy and appropriate for every stage of life but also reduces risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality. A carnivore diet has zero science supporting it. The totality of evident supports a well planned vegan diet though. And you could see evidence supporting the science all across my channel.

[@danielparsons2859]

Does research unequivocally say that people on a vegan diet live longer than those on a diet that includes meat?

[@VeganLinked]

@@danielparsons2859 Research on the longevity of vegans compared to non-vegans is mixed, but there are some studies suggesting potential health benefits that could contribute to a longer life. Here are some key points from the research: 1. **Lower Risk of Chronic Diseases**: Studies have shown that a vegan diet can lower the risk of chronic diseases such as heart disease, hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and certain cancers. These conditions are major contributors to mortality, so reducing their risk can positively impact lifespan. 2. **Nutritional Benefits**: A vegan diet is often high in fruits, vegetables, whole grains, nuts, and seeds, which are rich in essential nutrients and antioxidants. These foods can help reduce inflammation and oxidative stress, contributing to better overall health. 3. **Weight Management**: Vegans tend to have a lower body mass index (BMI) and lower rates of obesity. Maintaining a healthy weight is associated with a lower risk of many health conditions that can shorten lifespan. 4. **Long-term Studies**: Some long-term studies, such as the Adventist Health Studies, have found that vegetarians and vegans have a lower risk of mortality compared to meat-eaters. However, these studies also suggest that the differences in longevity might not be solely due to diet but also to other lifestyle factors like non-smoking, regular exercise, and lower alcohol consumption. It's important to note that a well-planned vegan diet is key. Vegans need to ensure they are getting sufficient nutrients that are more challenging to obtain from a plant-based diet alone, such as vitamin B12, iron, calcium, omega-3 fatty acids, and protein. In conclusion, while some research suggests that vegans may live longer due to lower risks of chronic diseases and better overall health, the evidence is not definitive. Lifestyle factors beyond diet also play a significant role in longevity.

[@VeganLinked]

@@danielparsons2859 Dr Neal Barnard told me in an interview that longevity has to do with genetics and good luck. I think he meant when all else is controlled for in a perfect situation really. Lifestyle medicine has six pillars to optimum Health and nutrition is just one of course. Other factors such as adequate sleep, not doing drugs, stress Management, social support, exercise also are key. And veganism really has nothing to do with all of these other things. Veganism is a philosophy, a moral obligation really. Conveniently it seems most conducive to optimum Health span and lifespan.

[@VeganLinked]

@@danielparsons2859 So at the end of the day there's zero need to consume body parts, organs or secretions and every reason to be vegan.

[@leemanwrong]

Nope there are no studies that can inform on the longevity of any diet. Such studies cannot be done due to ethical and financial reasons. Instead they’ll just hand out food frequency questionnaires and fabricate some results based on what people claim they ate, no observations, no control whatsoever.

[@artempik8366]

Nice try, but chickens as well as cows are not supposed to eat corn, especially not GMO corn. So I moved to another country where there is no corn, only grass. You cant blame meat if the farmers are putting incorrect feed, its not the meat problem, its the farmer/feed problem. I'll keep my pasture rased meat . 😎👍

[@VeganLinked]

Nice try, but chickens as well as cows are not supposed to be eaten. And doing so is so unsustainable that CAFO's are inevitable for the overwhelming majority. So you moved to another moot point because you're still eating an animal, which is a higher trophic level than plants which are the lowest. 90% of energy is lost each step up the food chain. The animals you're eating acquired their nutrients from plants. Plants are producers in that they produce the energy, oxygen, and nutrients we need. This is why plants have on average 64 more times the antioxidants to offset the inflammatory potential of metabolism. Consequently, eating animals will always be astronomically the most unsustainable and least healthy. As a result eating animals isn't necessary and therefore we have a moral obligation not to for the sake of the animal, the human animal, and the environment we share.

[@VeganLinked]

So, it doesn't matter if you're animal was in a CAFO or free range or wild even. The nutrients your body is really after originate in plants. When you try to get them from an animal, those nutrients change into saturated fats, sulfur containing amino acids, and with a package deal plagued with endotoxins, oxidized heme-iron and oxidized cholesterol, sialic acids, etc and void of carbohydrates for cellular energy and fiber to feed beneficial bacteria and produce advantageous, health promoting short chain fatty acids like butyrate and propionate.

[@Xioooo]

Ok so I don’t eat animals, I’m a vegan. I just wanted to ask, is making these claims helpful to this movement seeing that there are people who eat chicken and eat meat who are able to live long healthy lives? I just feel like looking at veganism from the health angle can be tricky because you can be healthy and eat meat, so people who are concerned more for their health would probably just continue what they’re doing. Would it not be more helpful for the animals to simply just say it’s morally wrong to consume them when you don’t have to and present the alternatives?

[@VeganLinked]

I understand where you're coming from, yes, the ethics is important. And, yes, there are people that live long despite what they do. This reminds me of when I interviewed Dr Barnard several years ago, he essentially said longevity is about genetics and good luck. On the other hand, healthspan is about lifestyle choices. And these people that you say can be healthy and eat meat, well, I don't know who those people are really, everyone I know locally is eating animals and they're not healthy. They may even live long but they have issues, medications, etc... Ultimately though, let's say they're appear to be healthy and old, that is "n of 1", for all we know they could be healthier and live longer if they weren't eating animals. At the end of the day, videos like this help people understand that eating animals is not necessary, is eating something processed and if you look across my channel I have a lot of content that isn't like this video, I try to cover every angle. And, the moral argument is only relevant if it's at least as healthy to not eat animals. Knowing that it is healthier makes the moral argument rational/sane. Lastly, people don't appear to be very moved by the moral argument. I've tested this for years. Videos that hit the moral argument seem to get the least amount of traction. When people hear the moral argument they often express they think they need to eat animals, which isn't true. Oh, and oftentimes people claim processed foods are what is making people sick without realizing that when they're eating an animal they're eating something processed. But, yeah, the moral component is essential to enduring the learning curve and something I try to hit on in interviews when I can, as well as all the other reasons. Which leads to me saying there's every reason to be vegan and no reason not to be.

[@Petunia-fl9lu]

not true Study: Meat Consumption is Positively Associated with Life Expectancy Feb 22, 2022 by Enrico de Lazaro Australia is one of the top of the global meat-eating league with more than 120 kg consumed per capita in 2020 - life expectancy in australia 83.3 years. Hong Kong has one of the highest meat consumption per capita in the world at 664g per day, equivalent to two pieces of 10-oz steak. life expectancy in Hong Kong 85.49 years. India is the most vegetarian - 67.2 years. so sorry, the SCIENCE says there's more to life expectancy than eating meat or not.

[@VeganLinked]

@@Petunia-fl9lu of course meat consumption is positively associated with life expectancy if you have nothing else to eat or if you compare it to trash

[@VeganLinked]

@@Petunia-fl9lu Numerous scientific studies have provided evidence supporting the idea that a plant-based diet can contribute to a lower risk of heart disease. The Adventist Health Study-2, which included a large population of Seventh-day Adventists, found that individuals following a vegetarian diet (including both lacto-ovo vegetarians and vegans) had a lower risk of developing coronary heart disease compared to non-vegetarians. The study highlighted the protective effects of plant-based diets. EPIC-Oxford Study: The EPIC-Oxford study, part of the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition, examined the diets and health outcomes of over 65,000 participants. It found that vegetarians had a significantly lower risk of coronary heart disease compared to meat-eaters. Nurses' Health Study and Health Professionals Follow-Up Study: These long-term cohort studies in the United States involved over 200,000 participants. They found that a higher intake of plant-based foods, such as fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, was associated with a lower risk of coronary heart disease. The emphasis on plant-based sources of protein was particularly noteworthy. Interheart Study: The Interheart Study, a global case-control study, investigated risk factors for acute myocardial infarction (heart attack) in various populations. It found that a high intake of fruits and vegetables was associated with a lower risk of heart attack, emphasizing the cardiovascular benefits of plant-based foods. Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension (DASH) Trial: While not exclusively plant-based it can be done vegan, the DASH diet emphasizes fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and low-fat dairy. The DASH trial demonstrated that this dietary pattern can significantly lower blood pressure, a key risk factor for heart disease. Meta-analyses and Reviews: Several meta-analyses and systematic reviews have summarized the existing evidence on plant-based diets and cardiovascular health. These analyses consistently suggest that plant-based diets are associated with a lower risk of heart disease, including a reduction in blood pressure, cholesterol levels, and inflammation.

[@VeganLinked]

@@Petunia-fl9lu While we see research supporting a plant-based diet as protective against chronic disease and all cause mortality we see the opposite for eating animals. Here are a few studies you might find relevant: 1. "Red and processed meat consumption and risk of prostate cancer: A dose-response meta-analysis of prospective studies"** - This meta-analysis, published in the International Journal of Cancer in 2016, found a positive association between red and processed meat consumption and the risk of prostate cancer. It suggested that higher consumption of these meats may be associated with an increased risk of developing prostate cancer. 2. "Dairy products, calcium, and prostate cancer risk: A systematic review and meta-analysis of cohort studies"** - This systematic review and meta-analysis, published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition in 2015, examined the association between dairy product consumption, calcium intake, and prostate cancer risk. It concluded that high intake of dairy products and calcium may be associated with an increased risk of prostate cancer. 3. "Egg consumption and risk of prostate cancer: A dose-response meta-analysis of prospective cohort studies"** - Published in the British Journal of Nutrition in 2016, this meta-analysis investigated the association between egg consumption and prostate cancer risk. It suggested that higher egg consumption may be associated with an increased risk of prostate cancer. These studies provide valuable insights into the potential relationship between the consumption of meat, dairy, eggs, and the risk of prostate cancer. Here are a few more studies that demonstrate the correlation between higher meat consumption and increased health risks: 4. The European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition (EPIC): This large-scale study followed over half a million participants from ten European countries for an average of 12.7 years. It found that higher intake of red and processed meats was associated with an elevated risk of mortality from all causes, particularly cardiovascular diseases and cancer. The study emphasized the importance of reducing meat consumption and replacing it with plant-based foods for overall health benefits. 5. The Health Professionals Follow-up Study and Nurses' Health Study II: These long-term cohort studies followed over 120,000 men and women in the United States for up to 28 years. They consistently showed that higher consumption of red meat, especially processed red meat, was associated with an increased risk of mortality from cardiovascular disease, cancer, and other causes. The findings underscored the importance of dietary choices in preventing chronic diseases and promoting longevity. 6. The Multiethnic Cohort Study: This prospective study included over 215,000 participants from Hawaii and California, representing various ethnic groups. It found that higher intake of red and processed meats was associated with an elevated risk of colorectal cancer, particularly among men. The study highlighted the need for population-wide strategies to reduce meat consumption and promote healthier dietary patterns to mitigate cancer risk. These studies provide further evidence of the dose-response relationship between meat consumption and health outcomes, demonstrating that as meat intake increases, so does the risk of various chronic diseases and mortality. 7. The Nurses' Health Study and Health Professionals Follow-up Study: These long-term studies followed over 100,000 participants for several decades. They found that higher consumption of red meat, particularly processed red meat, was associated with an increased risk of heart disease, cancer (especially colorectal cancer), and type 2 diabetes. The findings emphasized the importance of substituting healthier protein sources, like nuts, legumes. 8. The EPIC-Oxford Study: This large prospective study examined the diets and health outcomes of over 65,000 people in the United Kingdom. It found that vegetarians had a lower risk of developing coronary heart disease, certain cancers (such as colorectal and breast cancer), and type 2 diabetes compared to meat-eaters. The study also highlighted that the risk increased with higher consumption of red and processed meats. 9. The World Cancer Research Fund/American Institute for Cancer Research (WCRF/AICR) Continuous Update Project This ongoing project analyzes and synthesizes global research on diet, nutrition, physical activity, and cancer prevention. It has consistently found strong evidence linking high consumption of red and processed meats to an increased risk of colorectal cancer. The project recommends limiting the intake of red meat and avoiding processed meats to reduce cancer risk.

[@VeganLinked]

@@Petunia-fl9lu These studies provide robust evidence supporting the association between high meat consumption, especially red and processed meats, and various health risks. 10. Cardiometabolic Risk Factors: Reference: Micha R, Peñalvo JL, Cudhea F, et al. Association Between Dietary Factors and Mortality From Heart Disease, Stroke, and Type 2 Diabetes. JAMA. 2017;317(9):912-924. Findings: This study linked high consumption of processed meats to an increased risk of mortality from heart disease, stroke, and type 2 diabetes. 11. Type 2 Diabetes: Reference: Pan A, Sun Q, Bernstein AM, et al. Red meat consumption and risk of type 2 diabetes: 3 cohorts of US adults and an updated meta-analysis. Am J Clin Nutr. 2011;94(4):1088-1096. Findings: This study found an association between higher red meat consumption and an increased risk of type 2 diabetes. 12. Colorectal Cancer: Reference: World Health Organization. IARC Monographs evaluate consumption of red meat and processed meat. Press Release. 2015. Findings: The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization, classified processed meat as Group 1, meaning there is sufficient evidence to conclude that it causes colorectal cancer. Red meat was classified as Group 2A, meaning it is probably carcinogenic to humans. 13. Cardiovascular Disease: Reference: Micha R, Wallace SK, Mozaffarian D. Red and processed meat consumption and risk of incident coronary heart disease, stroke, and diabetes mellitus: a systematic review and meta-analysis. Circulation. 2010;121(21):2271-2283. Findings: This meta-analysis suggested that higher intake of red and processed meat is associated with an increased risk of coronary heart disease. Furthermore eating animals results in the most violent jobs, the most atrocious living circumstances for animals including violently slaughtering them, the most invasive and destructive industry that causes deforestation, desertification, concentration feeding operations (200,000 of which are in the US alone) that are toxic to surrounding communities, result in aquatic dead zones, deadly pathogens and zoonotic diseases that kill millions, antibiotic resistant bacteria, tainting water, air, and soil with anaerobic lagoons spewing ammonia, hydrogen sulfide, pathogens, all while being gravely inefficient as it only results in 20% global food intake yet uses 80% of agricultural land. Meanwhile China owns Smithfield so the US is essentially becoming a cesspool of pig and chicken feces, all so people can continue business as usual with their infantile habituated, vile and sadistic, outdated, behaviors that insidiously increase risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality with yet another death-based, elimination fad diet that's essentially a last ditch effort after the failed weight watchers, Atkins, Paleo, and failing keto that ranks lower than a whole list of plant-based diets like Mediterranean, Ornish, Dash, etc. Eating animals is just dumb, deadly and destructive at this point. This is all why all of the leading health organizations and largest scientific bodies of evidence like the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, National Academy of Science, Kaiser Permanente, American College of Cardiology, American Heart Association, American Cancer Association, World Health Organization, etc. all support a well planned plant-based diet as reducing risk for cardiometabolic diseases while being healthy and appropriate for every stage of life. And this is why the vegans are far more successful at showcasing the evidence. There is no carnivore equivalent to American College of Lifestyle Medicine, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, nutritionfacts, Ornish program that's supported by Medicare for non-invasive treatment of cardiometabolic diseases, Hippocrates Wellness, True North, we even have more relevant doctors like you can see on my channel such as many long time vegan cardiologist, long time general practitioners, scientist, nephrologist, pediatricians, gastroenterologist, oncologist, nutritionist, dietitians, If someone's really looking it's clear to see that the plant-based and vegan way of eating is like a century ahead of this so-called carnivore fad diet that's really emulating a necrovore, scavenger based diet. Even KZbinrs on the vegan side have been around longer, actually show science instead of saying there is and then not showing any and then later saying it's accumulating but not showing any evidence of this. Meanwhile ours keeps accumulating decade after decade ahead of death-based diets. Even my channel is better than any of the carnivore channels. I showcase interviews with hundreds of long time vegans, lifelong vegans, athletic vegans beating non-vegans, long time world renowned doctors, scientists, Farmers, and the most compassionate people seeking to simply make this a healthier, sustainable, non-violent world. Anyone trying to foster a future of concentrated animal feeding operations and slaughterhouses instead of peace gardens, veganic farms, and greenhouses is just as sick as they come.

[@VeganLinked]

@@Petunia-fl9lu there's a reason why the World Health Organization classifies meat as a carcinogen and probable carcinogen.

[@slewfoot6608]

7th day adventest garbage

[@VeganLinked]

@@slewfoot6608 no just science.

[@VeganLinked]

@@slewfoot6608 no just facts

[@kristinagu377]

According to such logic, we should only eat soil because thats where the nutrients are originally. And we should not eat plants since they have processed the nutrients from the soil... wth?

[@CaroAbebe]

Plants convert the nutrients in such a fashion that they’re actually healthful for us. And it’s not exclusively the nutrients from the soil either.

[@VeganLinked]

@@kristinagu377 If what you're after are essential nutrients then you need to eat the plants. Plants work in a symbiotic relationship with the Sun, soil and bacteria. If the nutrients are what you're after they are in the plant. There's no need to eat an animal that ate plants. Try thinking a little harder. We don't expect you to stare at the sun either or just breathe air. And those are required as well. The nutrients we need start in the plants.

[@VeganLinked]

@@kristinagu377 according to such logic, trying to get nutrients from body parts, organs and secretions is like trying to get oxygen from a cow fart.

[@VeganLinked]

@@RC-qf3mpif you're going to talk about evolution you better talk about antagonistic pleiotropy. What violent things we did in the past to make it to the point of propagating our species is not necessarily at all advantageous for optimum Health span and lifespan. Catch up to 2024. Stop living and consistently in a violent past and get your head out of your axx.

[@VeganLinked]

​@@RC-qf3mp ​ Religion? Veganism is based on facts, for a fact an animal must be intentionally exploited, abused, and slaughtered to support your position. Fact is, it is not necessary when you have access to whole vegan foods. Another inescapable fact is eating plants is astronomically more sustainable. Another fact is, the totality of evidence across every hierarchy and in every direction absolutely supports vegan as being the healthiest in every way; for the person, the animals, and the environment. So, as you can see, it vegan is nothing like a religion. Religions tend to be based on metaphysical fairy tales, not facts. What you appear to be based on is a death based, last ditch effort elimination fad diet because of transient n of 1 results. But, short term success only creates hypothesis, not long term human outcomes. That's why the best studies are long term studies with large populations. Vegan has this all the way down to RTC's. That's why I, one person, can create a more powerful channel of long time anecdotes that have supporting evidence. And all you have are empty words Censor? We're right here, WTF is being censored? I will block people who demonstrate repeatedly they are not genuinely inquisitive, most notably those relentlessly spewing delusional nonsense on my channel. It's my platform, not yours. Thus far you've only generated gibberish. So, you're on the path to being blocked. But, you haven't been censored.

[@davidfarrar2454]

Barnard is a quack!

[@VeganLinked]

Really? A quack is usually defined as somebody who doesn't have credentials, yet Dr Neal Barnard is a physician, and a practicing physician, and he actually conducts legit research, and he knows the science, and he's been eating this way since 1985. Have you been maliciously misled by carnitard pseudo doctors who lose their license, lie about their credentials, and merely give you false hope-based malaligned Good news about your bad habits, pity you... Run away from Chafee, Baker, Barry, saladino, kay, they are more than just quacks they are quacky clowns! The doctors on my channel have been legit many decades longer than your death-based last ditch effort elimination fad diet clowns that literally have zero science to back up their grotesque outdated positions

[@OilCanHarry2U]

It appears that David relies on KZbin influencers for his bite of reality.

[@davidfarrar2454]

@@OilCanHarry2U So VeganLinked is not a KZbin influencer. By that logic we should not listen to him!

[@davidfarrar2454]

@@VeganLinked Why was my post deleted? Are you afraid someone might change their mind?

[@VeganLinked]

@@davidfarrar2454 I don't know what comment you think I deleted. Perhaps you're unfamiliar with how KZbin works. Some comments are held for moderation. And for me to check for those comments I have to stop time out of the day and ideally be on the computer going into KZbin studio but typically when I'm on my computer I am editing and don't really have time to moderate that deeply consistently. So your comment may very well be waiting to be moderated.

[@foodbeforepills8749]

Hong Kong, Japanese, South Korea eat the most meat of any population. They are also longest lived.

[@VeganLinked]

You're referring to old data about average life expectancies. Japan leads right now and Monaco has the highest overall life expectancy in 2024. And they consume a Mediterranean diet, which is considered one of the healthiest diets in the world. But what's even more interesting are where the most centenarians are and they are overwhelmingly plant-based.

[@foodbeforepills8749]

@@VeganLinked The Mediterranean lifestyle is the main factor. Active social circle, eating real whole foods, circadian rhythm, etc. Plant based can be 51% plants and 49% meat.

[@VeganLinked]

@@foodbeforepills8749 actually it's more like 70%. And in Japan, like Okinawa, the traditional diet was over 90%. Epidemiological looks into these food patterns show us a stepwide increase and the more plants the less risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality. And of course the inverse with animal, that is the more body parts, organs and secretions the higher the risk for chronic disease and all cause mortality.

[@VeganLinked]

@@foodbeforepills8749 and more nuanced research shows a well planned whole Food vegan diet is best. Here are several studies demonstrating that a well-planned whole-food vegan diet outperforms other diets in promoting health and reducing the risk of chronic diseases and all-cause mortality: 1. "Good for the planet and good for our health: the evidence for whole-food plant-based diets" (2021) - This review highlights that whole-food plant-based (WFPB) diets are effective in managing and preventing obesity, type 2 diabetes, and cardiovascular diseases. Participants adhering to a WFPB diet showed significant improvements in body mass index (BMI) and glycemic control, and experienced a reduced risk of cardiovascular mortality. The study emphasizes that healthy WFPB diets, as opposed to unhealthy plant-based diets with processed foods, are crucial for these benefits. 2. "Adherence to Plant-based Diets and Risk of Chronic Kidney Disease Progression and All-Cause Mortality: Results from the Chronic Renal Insufficiency Cohort (CRIC) Study" (2021)** - This study involved 2,539 participants with chronic kidney disease (CKD) and found that those with the highest adherence to healthy plant-based diets had a 21% lower risk of all-cause mortality. It also highlighted the negative impact of unhealthy plant-based diets, which were associated with a higher risk of CKD progression and mortality. 3. "Plant-based diets and cardiovascular health: A review" (2018) - This review, conducted by Satija and Hu, discusses the cardiovascular benefits of plant-based diets. It reports that replacing animal proteins with plant proteins can lead to positive changes in BMI, reduced inflammation, and lower risks of cardiovascular diseases (CVD) by improving endothelial function and reducing blood pressure. 4. "Combating Chronic Diseases with a Plant-Based Diet" (2021) - This article emphasizes that plant-based diets help prevent the development and progression of chronic diseases like CVD and type 2 diabetes (T2D). Hospitals like Montefiore and UC Davis have integrated plant-based diets into their treatment programs, seeing significant reductions in cholesterol, blood pressure, and even reversal of T2D and CVD in some patients. These studies collectively support the notion that a well-planned whole-food vegan diet can significantly enhance health span, reduce chronic disease risks, and lower all-cause mortality rates. The key is focusing on whole, unprocessed plant foods while minimizing processed and sugary foods to achieve the best health outcomes.

[@VeganLinked]

@@foodbeforepills8749 Numerous scientific studies have provided evidence supporting the idea that a plant-based diet can contribute to a lower risk of heart disease. The Adventist Health Study-2, which included a large population of Seventh-day Adventists, found that individuals following a vegetarian diet (including both lacto-ovo vegetarians and vegans) had a lower risk of developing coronary heart disease compared to non-vegetarians. The study highlighted the protective effects of plant-based diets. EPIC-Oxford Study: The EPIC-Oxford study, part of the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition, examined the diets and health outcomes of over 65,000 participants. It found that vegetarians had a significantly lower risk of coronary heart disease compared to meat-eaters. Nurses' Health Study and Health Professionals Follow-Up Study: These long-term cohort studies in the United States involved over 200,000 participants. They found that a higher intake of plant-based foods, such as fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, was associated with a lower risk of coronary heart disease. The emphasis on plant-based sources of protein was particularly noteworthy. Interheart Study: The Interheart Study, a global case-control study, investigated risk factors for acute myocardial infarction (heart attack) in various populations. It found that a high intake of fruits and vegetables was associated with a lower risk of heart attack, emphasizing the cardiovascular benefits of plant-based foods. Hypertension (DASH) Trial: While not exclusively plant-based it can be done vegan, the DASH diet emphasizes fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and low-fat dairy. The DASH trial demonstrated that this dietary pattern can significantly lower blood pressure, a key risk factor for heart disease. Meta-analyses and Reviews: Several meta-analyses and systematic reviews have summarized the existing evidence on plant-based diets and cardiovascular health. These analyses consistently suggest that plant-based diets are associated with a lower risk of heart disease, including a reduction in blood pressure, cholesterol levels, and inflammation.

[@animalspirit5504]

You missed your chance to interview Dr. mcdougall Oh well, I guess your sponsors didn't allow that

[@VeganLinked]

Sponsors? Where? I'm just run and gun flying solo on my own dime and time. If someone is getting sponsorship from my work it's a dupe. I'm just a one man show yo

[@VeganLinked]

As for Dr McDougall, that would have been awesome. It's amazing he lived so well so long after having such a serious stroke 50 years prior as a teen. It's not really a missed chance though because his story was covered very well already. And there's so many amazing vegans out there I'll never be able to cover them all, no one person could. He was on Chef AJ a lot, perhaps you'll find what you're after over there. Dr McDougall is infinitely awesome and epic!

[@CindyHolm-n8n]

Nice story but vegans can eat GMO corn by the way all grains and carbs and foods are modified!!!

[@VeganLinked]

@@CindyHolm-n8n it's super easy to get non-GMO if that's something you're worried about. But GMO or not it's still going to be less processed than consuming body parts, organs and secretions.

[@VeganLinked]

@@CindyHolm-n8n also, I think I've bought corn maybe four times in my entire life. And that was all before I went vegan. It's really not a staple in my diet or most vegan diets that I know. Not that I have anything wrong with it it's just the way the cards fall with so many other options.

[@christopherlee4796]

I like to think about what food you would be attracted to if you lived in nature, in our natural habitat. Say you woke up in the forest with complete amnesia and you were alone and hungry. You see a rabbit hopping by. Does it make your mouth water or do you think cute! It’s hopping through a field of green and eating the plants. Does that seem appetizing? Then you notice a squirrel eating these little brown Rock looking things hanging on a tree. Maybe you try one and discover it’s really tough to open and it forwent taste that great anyways. Not me. Then you smell a sweet perfume and turn and notice large brightly reddish orange colored smooth glistening round things hanging from a tree and as you aproach and grab one it feels nice in your hands then you put it up to your face and smell it deeply with satisfaction before you tear into it and discover it’s better than anything you’ve ever eaten. And you realize there are hundreds more of the same and millions of different variants and you are doing zero harm to the tree, in fact you are helping its propagation in life by discarding the seed into the ground away from under the tree.

[@adamjames1375]

Fruit is certainly very visually appealing and flavorful. Without those qualities the plant would need to evolve a new method of scattering it's seeds. Bunnies are only cute to a civilized satiated person. If left to scavenge for fruits & acorns, I'd venture to guess very much more disturbing things would quickly become more appealing. Lizard brain favors calorie density.

[@christopherlee4796]

@@adamjames1375 not if there is plentiful fruit around

[@adamjames1375]

@@christopherlee4796 I've heard of people being frugivores, though I've never heard or seen it demonstrated on a societal scale. I'd venture to guess the lack of protein & fat would soon leave most in a condition unfit for survival. Also reliably foraging 2-3k+ calories a day from seasonal fruit seems challenging & without modern agricultural methods & tools would likely consume the majority of your waking hours. ... I like fruits... I'm pro fruits. Nature's Candy I say. I don't think long term societal sustenance can be supplied with fruit alone.

[@andrewentwistle1895]

Due to the amnesia, I wouldn't know that the rabbit was edible and full of fat and protein. So I think I would be curious of the rabbit, follow its habits and eat what it is eating which is the green plants. When we are clueless we learn by watching nature not devouring it.

[@christopherlee4796]

@@andrewentwistle1895 rabbits are the only animal that eats tobacco leaves. They are poisonous to every other animal. We are not rabbits