Anime has a fascism problem

[@xPolitely]

He didn't end the video with "I wanna eat that". I want my money back

[@DarrenNoFun]

They did tell some people to eat sand and get sick... I think that's close enough. It's eating.

[@LordGarryk]

It's cuz he took a bite outa fascism

[@kjellwyouell3066]

It's a fake account

[@PeterKropticken]

What anime girl/guy did you want him to put on screen when he said it?

[@_m889]

I didn't realize it was him until I read this.

[@crazyperson4145]

i still think it is funny that the thin blue line idiots use the Punisher, a cop killer, as a symbol for themselves not realizing that the views that make them want to use that symbol would be a reason for the Punisher to target them

[@brandonandujar2289]

Marvel was soo butthurt that people love Punisher, they killed him off.

[@slammermchammer]

​@@brandonandujar2289man it's marvel they kill off every character and eventually bring them back They have been doing that for like 50+ years Spider-Man has died 30 bakers dozen times.

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@slammermchammer 😂

[@bolson42]

⁠​⁠@@brandonandujar2289 Bet you love your punisher sticker

[@brandonandujar2289]

@@bolson42 mostly see non-whites with Punisher shirts

[@j_jizzle_69]

How do you watch one piece and be racist like brother were you watching it on mute or something

[@albertobarbosa4938]

Who knows? Maybe people don't source their views from cartoons.

[@j_jizzle_69]

@@albertobarbosa4938 one of the core messages is don’t be racist I don’t see how that’s a bad thing

[@albertobarbosa4938]

@@j_jizzle_69 I'll rephrase what I've said: Just because someone likes an anime, doesn't mean he has to agree with it's message, whatever that message is.

[@lmpure_4542]

@@albertobarbosa4938 This very much so. I was convinced a good piece of art can really change the world and minds of the public for a long time. After learning more, and seeing much of the discourse regarding the defense of Danaerys’ action in the GOT finale, I began to realize that some people simply cannot understand “Don’t do that, don’t do what that guy did.” And in recent memory I learned my best friend’s fiancé is actually incapable of seeing the underlying themes of a narrative. I am not kidding she is actually incapable of perceiving the greater meaning or morale of the story. Some people simply interact with narratives in seemingly impossible and strange ways contradictory to the truth of matter.

[@Freur-00]

​​​@@albertobarbosa4938 There's a difference between watching certain media vs preaching and dick-riding that piece of media as the greatest thing possible whilst not even agreeing with the basic point. You can't disagree and not be able to see the nuance of a huge chunk of the anime while calling yourself a 'fan'. It's like skipping two whole seasons of an anime that are extremely plot-relevant and calling yourself that

[@munanchoinc]

I think the reason why Anime is so pervasive with German imagery is that the Germans POWs from WW1 stayed in Japan. Thus the influence of Prussian Armies and the fact that Japan was heavily influenced by Europeans during the Meiji Restoration made them compatible with Imagery. Another aspect is that Japan HEAVILY lacks the context and impact of fascist regimes like the N*zis. And thus they focus on imagery without realizing the messed up context.

[@tylersmith3139]

It's pervasive with WW2 German imagery, not WW1 and there weren't many German POWs in Japan in WW1. There was barely a German military presence in the Pacific and they were easily overrun. The German imagery in anime outside of Attack on Titans is clearly Nazi imagery and it stems from Mangakas who were fans of Fascist Japan idolizing other fascist states like Nazi Germany. Attack on Titan is blatantly fascist. War is portrayed as inevitable and life is portrayed as either destroying all your enemies or they will destroy you. The whole world irrationally hates Eldians, wants them dead and they can't be reasoned with and the only way to stop them is to kill all of them. Oh and the good guys who stop Eren from completing his genocide are proven wrong in the end when 2-3 generations after them, Eldia gets blown up. Not to mention, little things like Paradis Island flourishing in the Epilogue(under a Yeagerist/fascist ethnocentric Autocratic monarchist government similar to WW2 Japan), the entire political system of Paradis Island and how only individual actors are scrutinized, but never the actual militaristic, fascistic system of Paradis that leads to a few aristocrats taking power because apparently, autocracy becomes ok if it's a single monarch and military running the country instead of a bunch of oligarchs)

[@abhishekverma4029]

​​@@bobchungiloI mean the swastika is a symbol of good fortune in indian religions but what is hitler shops,I,m indian & I have never seen anything as hitler shops. Also I do agree this vid is just another case of a smug leftist vid essayist retardation like In praise of shadows,f.d signifier,Noah samsen who would call everyone who isn,t on their political side(far left) as fascist,nazi and using both terms like they mean the same things .

[@ehrenmelone]

@@bobchungilo what is a Hitler shop?

[@ehrenmelone]

@@bobchungilo thanks

[@LaRavachole]

Holy shit Munancho jumpscare

[@johndrake6847]

I think the point of attack on Titan is to show the view of an extremist and what it takes to get there. It's never shown that genocide is good. You know genocide is bad so the story doesn't have to say it. Idk I'm kinda drunk

[@datguy3581]

I also think the story/protagonists make it pretty clear that the genocide is wrong in the text. I get the impression that Hange's view on the matter is what Isayama wants us to agree with.

[@Peasham]

It is literally shown that genocide is the only way for Paradis to stay safe and there are multiple where the genocided people are admitting that it is their fault and that they are fine with it.

[@datguy3581]

@@Peasham The 50 year plan was propositioned as a way to achieve peace. That proposal was never proven ineffective. In fact, the only reason it didn’t go into affect was because the main advocates for the plan were murdered or kidnapped. The Marleyans who accepted their fate did so because they knew they had contributed to the genocide of the Eldians and had blood on their hands.

[@Peasham]

@@datguy3581 Diplomacy was specifically proven ineffective by the updated ending, which shows Paradis once again under attack and on the brink of ruin by invaders. I am glad we agree that the people being genocided fully accepted and were okay with their genocide and that the story shows genocide as a-okay, approved by the people being genocided no less.

[@datguy3581]

@@Peasham The idea behind the 50 year plan was to force other nations to the meeting table by destroying their fleet. It was never stated that the bombing of Paradis was a response to the Rumbling. For all we know, it’s a completely different unrelated war. The point is that there will always be war and hatred and it will always cause harm. If the world had been destroyed, there would’ve been infighting in Paradis and the killing would still continue on a smaller scale.

[@thomasffrench3639]

“Sieg Zeon!” I feel like this is where it all began. A lot of people in Japan really resonated with Zeon even though the series makes them out to be evil. But since it is a nuanced anime, it doesn’t dehumanize the enemy or the Allies.

[@gellog0530]

zeon basically went from i want to be independent from the earth federation to space nazi and minerva is pretty fucked since her family did some horrible shit and jiren is space hitler and her now dead family poisoned deikun

[@HobbiesGamesChillin]

which is odd AF cause its clear that Zeon are the baddies and their ideology is doomed to fail

[@kingofcarts1738]

I think we often forget that Gihren that started poisoning Zeon with nazism. To the point that Degwin said "screw it, I gotta end this fast", and decided to immediately start peace talks. Then when Gihren killed his dad, his sister decided to merc him.

[@basedsketch4133]

Evil Zeon got some good and good federation got some evil

[@basedsketch4133]

​@@kingofcarts1738frickin degwin said in so much words gherin was literally like hitler

[@conarcoin]

it makes me mad that nazis attached themselves to k-on! because it's such a fun show. it makes no sense either it's literally just some girls running a music club 💀

[@albertobarbosa4938]

It makes you mad that people you don't like, like thing you like?

[@conarcoin]

@@albertobarbosa4938 most people do not like nazis, follow your leader

[@albertobarbosa4938]

@@conarcoin I've already visited Argentina. Still, what does the fact that some people don't like other people, has to do with you getting mad?

[@Wormy_fren]

​@@albertobarbosa4938 Being around people who you think are unpleasant or just knowing that you can possibly meet them is already just a major turn off for going into a community or hobby. Actively finding them under what was seemingly a cool piece of media is just exhausting and sometimes I wish I never picked up the rock in the first place.

[@thenotsoamazinggracetnsag3463]

@@albertobarbosa4938It’s one thing if they’re fans of stuff you don’t like, it’s another thing for them to submit to an ideology that promotes genocide.

[@jdools4744]

I am in a constant dissociative state

[@graalclassiconline]

I found my twin

[@spoink-x3z]

go to therapy. or learn coping methods for dissociation online. or do nothing. you have free will after all.

[@buglover122]

Where am

[@capybara_fan]

me too bro. it'll get better

[@Lalo-777]

Real

[@jordanchen23]

11;26 I always felt like AoT focused on the brutality of war and the inhumanity of fascism which isn't the same as glorification. It's a story about war and fascism not a pro war and pro fascism story. Just saying AoT is pro fascism is like saying GoT is pro rape.

[@nqk_0662]

@@bobchungilofunny how people found this video because of another KZbinr and this video is a year old

[@tonywonderstruck5570]

Ima be honest as a poc i like having media that is tied to me but i dislike it when characters are pandered and not made with genuine love rather than trying to be hit with the “we have minorities we’re cool buy our product support us we love you”

[@tonywonderstruck5570]

Totally not lying too make you pay

[@jimmyvanilla5285]

The best way to navigate the concept of representation, especially in American media is where the money is going, who are the owners/producers/creators, is money from poc characters going to poc?

[@-------------------------oo]

it's also sad because bigots will use your perfectly valid reason to then twist it around and somehow use it to justify that there should be NO inclusion to other minorities "These directors are just doing it for woke points! That's why we shouldn't make media diverse at all!" Like bruh, that's not going to fix it, if anything that's going to make it even worse than it already is

[@MaticTheProto]

Yeah that’s why so many people in the LGBTQ community also hate the pandering. Hollywood doesn’t get it

[@reggiefreeborn2143]

Listen, the non racist answer to this is to let the writing speak for itself instead of assuming it's "forced diversity" second you see a black character in a show/movie. If anything, one peice live action proves diversity isn't the issue, it's the writing and direction. The term forced diversity has the same energy " you got this job/acceptance because you are black" despite the fact that affirmative action had a extremely high hurdle to overcome, it just forced colleges to accept a non-legacy student and allowed them to factor poorer backgrounds(as alot of poc majority schools often lack ap classes, not due poc intelligence but because pocs,from a statistical standpoint, tend to live in neighborhoods where rent is the majority way to pay a house,so schools tend to not have the high property tax fund for ap) while twisting jobs arms to actually for different kings of qualified employees(best example of this was when california killed AA for contract jobs. The before showed businesses were willing to give qualified non-white contractors of 17 years a chance. But the second they were given to just use"jimmy bob the contractor of 17 years" they did. Just because jimmy bob's dad was besties with the business prior boss also you proved him right, the second you voiced this concern, a guy replied to your comment with a complex, pc version of"it's the jews"

[@woke_karen]

Hey everyone. While I was downloading the storm of PNGs I used in the video I noticed that a channel by the name of the Kavernacle has a video with the same subject. It's a great video, check the channel out. Anyways, there are a lot of similarities. They discussed 2chan and Aot. Just note that this was not intentional and I will be sure to make sure do research on existing videos to avoid this problem in the future. THX FOR WATCHING ❤️

[@emileeso9597]

W

[@alfredocuevas147]

A ridiculous Woke", which I know they believe (politically correct social justice). Saying that the anime is racist "because without", there is no argument, no evidence, no clear examples, they just say that because they don't even have things completely Fake anime from its inception was inclusive before American detention. You yourself can verify that with the internet, the anime is not racist, the only thing that is racist is you, the meaningless verbiage from you; It is wrong to discriminate if race matters/That there are white people or whites are bad because without, the irony is that a white person tells me, as I know your own logic feels against you. And just so you know, I'm Mexican for me in anime it represents my culture more than you stupid self-righteous country.

[@coolbeans6148]

"Every opinion thats different from mine = Literally Hitler."

[@alfredocuevas147]

@@coolbeans6148 Boy, I don't know what gives me more thanks; You are calling people anyone who does not have a different opinion than yours = fascist (why yes) or my opinion has more arguments than yours.

[@matcha6710]

​@@coolbeans6148eat shit ❤

[@musfiqurrahman7906]

11:36 attack on titan has "three sides" the marley, the eldian and the facist yeagerist. Yes the yeagerists are facists. The manga hints that. That african character doesn't say the word fascist but he says, "I can not support a xenophobic group like you" you have to remember the idealogy of fascism doesn't exist there because the 2nd world war or the first world war has not happened there. The manga shows how a group of xenophobic, ultranationalists can become blind, commits genocide and destroy the country. The manga clearly takes the side of antifascism. Marley and paradis uniting to stop a xenophobic mass mudurer eren. It has always taken the side of antifascism. By supporting paradis, marley or anyone oposing the fascist. The mangaka gave us the message. If the shit brains take the story in their way what can the mangaka say? Explicitly say we are antifascist? Wouldn't that ruin the Beauty of the story?

[@jeancarlo8796]

attack on titan criticizes both nazism and communism as isayama is a declared patriot and follows the japanese military forces on social media. You can see that Isayama is a patriot because he constantly exalts the image of fair leaders who think of their people like Erwin who was the soldier who most sacrificed himself for his nation and Queen Historia Reiss.

[@tilltronje1623]

What can the mangaka say? Well, he has been saying some pretty fascist shit. I agree that AoT is anti fascist and that the fanbasebis just too retarded to understand it, similar to Fight Club, but let's not pretend likebthe mangaka can be absolved of blame

[@tilltronje1623]

​@@jeancarlo8796lol where does the anime or manga criticize communism? 😂😂 communism is not a thing in that world

[@tilltronje1623]

What the mangaka could say? Well, he could stop saying pro fascist and imperialist shit. I ahree that AoT is anti fascist and that the fanbase is too retarded to understand that but let's not pretend like the mangaka can be absolved of all blame

[@swerzye4472]

@@tilltronje1623it doesn’t lol

[@mikeyx2526]

Literally watched an old roommate of mine fall down the alt-right pipeline because of 4chan and Moe anime

[@richmrstonestone]

Lol. FACISM was a movement in 1932, Not 2022 dumbasses

[@juansostre456]

I’ve fallen down both now (I’m on my leftist arc)

[@ibrav7979]

@@richmrstonestone Facism is a political ideology not a one off movement in the past. Example :- There is growing Hindu-Facism in India

[@richmrstonestone]

@@ibrav7979 I understand what you mean by this. In general there is a group of personally unsuccessful people in America who want to call anything that involves success, dignity, American core values, etc fascism...

[@ibrav7979]

@@richmrstonestone Facism in America is literally just right wing bs

[@luigimariolxix]

It's weird to be an One Piece fan and racist at the same time. One Piece has many anti racism themes.

[@alexbowdenlive]

aot is one my favorite all-time pieces of fiction and it kills me that neo nazis have such an obsession with twisting the message of the story in their favor. wild that stories that outwardly condemn and show the downside of fascist indoctrination get misunderstood by literally the worst people. thanks for taking a positive leftist perspective on the story while still recognizing its impact even if it’s a hard truth to swallow and keep up the great work on these long form vids

[@dwightbvg]

Maybe because the writer is nationalist himself🤷🏻‍♂️

[@datguy3581]

@@dwightbvg Is he? Because it doesn't seem that way from watching the show. It doesn't seem like there is any real direct parallels between real peoples and nations to those in AoT. Now they definitely have some references. The treatment of the Eldians in Marley by Marley is reminiscent of the Jews in Germany. But I don't get the impression that Isayama or the story is trying to equate these two very different peoples. Likewise, there could be connections between Paradis and Japan made with having a brutal past and some people wanting to move past that but in the show those who subscribe to the Eldian nationalism (Yaegerists) are portrayed as the villains while the protagonists (Scouts) choose to protect the rest of the world.

[@Peasham]

@@datguy3581 The idea that the entire world irrationally wants to destroy a tiny island nation and that said tiny island nation both must and is fully justified in systematically genociding the rest of the world because of that, with literal panels of the people being genocided admitting that this is their fault and being okay with it, is a one-to-one parallel of Japanese Ultranationalist propaganda.

[@datguy3581]

@@Peasham Eldia is not just some tiny island nation. They enslaved a large part of the world for centuries. That’s why they are hated or feared throughout the world. And Marleyan propaganda as well as Marley’s own use of Eldians as slave soldier validates that fear. There’s also the fact that Paradis island has been unable to form diplomatic ties with any nation. The whole point of the story is that they are not justified. The genocide is not justified. The massacre in Liberio is not justified. Anytime the harming of civilians is depicted, it is not justified. There are characters who try to justify said action are the villains of the story. Eren betrays his friends, his cause, and his country. He abuses Mikasa and Armin. He commits acts of domestic terrorism against his own people and his enemies. In the show/manga, the Rumbling plan which was supposed to be enacted by the Eldian military would be a show of force to make way for negotiations. They were going to hit only naval targets and military personnel. The idea would be that it’s brought about peace with minimal bloodshed. The point of Eren’s character is that he has always been a bad guy. He was always violent even when he was a child. He thinks that harming those he believes are standing in the way of his freedom is justified. But it’s not. The show makes a point that all of the main Eldian characters (aside from Floch who goes on a total power trip) oppose him. Even Pixis who is a relatively patriotic individual is against him. Hange denounced Eren’s genocidal plan citing how much they’ve learned about the outside world. They’ve met many good people outside the walls and many of the people who do bad things outside the walls were misinformed by an authoritarian regime. Onyonkapone’s speech and character in general embody a lot of the themes and messages that AOT embodies. He along with many other foreign volunteers sought to liberate their homelands from Marley’s rule but they also genuinely wanted to help the people of Paradis island. They sacrificed everything for people they didn’t know. But still they were turned on by some individuals in Eldia. Those soldier (the Yeagerists) are depicted as somewhat sympathetic because they are afraid and they think aq they are protecting their island. But the show pretty clearly depicts them as in the wrong because they are selfishly putting their own people above millions of innocents. Some of the people who were killed in the Rumbling did contribute to the conflict. Many of the Marleyans did take part in the war effort which systematically killed the people of Paradis. for a century. They have blood on their hands. That’s how many Yeagerists justify their actions. Liberio hosted much of Marley’s military and the people who supported them. The anime made the decision to pair the flashback of the representatives of Eldia meeting Ramzi and his people next to the beginning of the Rumbling. The refugees in that camp were just like the Eldians in that they had lost their homes to war but they still were willing to reach out to outsiders and shared what little they had with the Eldians. That’s the type of people the Rumbling would destroy. Attack on Titan is fundamentally a cautionary tale of ultranationalism gone too far. It’s a story about people who are so scared that they look the other way as atrocities are committed because those atrocities benefit them. But in the end, everyone suffers. While Eldia does take some influence from Japan, it also takes influence from many other countries and should not be seen as a stand in for Japan. That is not the intention of the author and is not supported by the core anti fascist themes and messages of the show.

[@Peasham]

@@datguy3581 That's a cute reading of the situation, none of which counters the fact that the updated ending of the story proves genocide is the only way to protect the tiny island nation alongside the people being genocided being completely okay with it. When you write a story wherein the only option for your protagonists and the safety of their nation is genocide, and then specifically write in scenes both proving that was the only option with scenes of the people genocided accepting their genocide, you are making Japanese ultranationalist propaganda.

[@Wildcat_Shenanigans]

“Why do these seemingly unrelated things have such a potent intersection” Let me tell you about WW2

[@veritycloud1236]

No the axis in ww2 has nothing to do with japan today

[@psychopompous489]

@@veritycloud1236 Is this sarcasm, or did you genuinely forget that causality is a thing?

[@alexpowrie1486]

A certain mustache man? Is he talking about Freddy Mercury?

[@artemisameretsu6905]

Nah he would have specified the sexy mustache man if he meant Freddy 😜🤣

[@nqk_0662]

No no Charlie chapman

[@slug_whitesnake]

it's actually 'freddie', not freddy. he's my bi goat

[@jennyfeare1702]

*Gets a thin blue line ad after clicking on this video* 💀

[@Narutoman14]

Just came here from the clock app. Glad you have longform videos!

[@garlicsalt409]

One of the first ever animes was created some time before the 1950s (im too lazy to google what specific decade) but its was straight up imperial propaganda used to justify colonization and get people to join the Japanese military.

[@thomascelentano433]

People like this are why gatekeeping is an absolute necessity.

[@Gamesux421]

People like you are why we should make some people not be able to enjoy things anymore :)

[@iamLI3]

indeed , holy shit i can't believe ppl like him are actually real......

[@bazz931]

If anytime someone promotes gatekeeping then you know they are on something. Gatekeeping leads to the death of what ever is within those gates.

[@iamLI3]

@@bazz931 >said the barbarian horde being kept outside those gates....

[@AuuuAuuuo]

Fash sympathizer and cartoon gatekeeper, what a life!

[@pokeluis2002]

This is really ironic considering that One Piece, one of the most popular anime’s out there is unapologetically Woke to the bone. It has such fun tópicas as police brutality, discrimination, racism, government corruption, silence and manipulation of media, slavery, child experimentation and many more stuff

[@crossdaboss8914]

If you think those concepts are woke concepts you are online far far to much

[@Nakla]

Remember when Commies tried to portray AoT as an anti-fascist show? So how did this turn out?

[@seg162]

@@Nakla I imagine pretty poorly, because it was much more concerned with the _people_ behind causes and ideologies than it was with causes and ideologies. Trying to read AOT as pro-anything-that-isn't-"stop hiding behind causes to moralize your evil and try to find peace with even your enemies or else you'll feed into a violent factionalism that'll destroy everyone" is going to lead to a deficient experience where some of the most pivotal parts of the narrative become non sequiturs. I can appreciate a narrative with a message that not only falls on deaf ears, but falls on the deaf ears of people who do the exact same thing the narrative criticizes without any self-awareness. It's life imitating art... imitating life.

[@matcha6710]

​@@crossdaboss8914they're considered "woke" to morons who want/are apathetic to things like slavery and genocide

[@natalimoina]

​@@crossdaboss8914please don't use words if you don't actually know what they mean or what you're talking about

[@Ohsev]

Only anime pfps i know usually arent heavily right wing are neco arc pfps....they're either shiposters or massive fighting game fans, especially melty blood and guilty gear

[@Allukard353]

:(

[@ArbitraryOutcome]

I've seen more anime PFP users who happened to be very fruity than I have the racist kinds.

[@Pheyniix]

neco arc pfps are the biggest tourists ever

[@HaveYouSeenMyCrèmeFraîche]

Turn normally communist so he is right that is Fascism

[@aydanwessels761]

I really love the assertion that if you leave space for cockroaches, they will breed. The only acceptable public opinion is to actively decry evil. Outstanding commentary, as always.

[@Itsthebowman]

Exactly

[@CrossoverManiac]

I'm sorry you have such a shitty attitude towards freedom of speech that you consider the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution to be a space for "cockroaches" to breed or that you think anyone that disagrees with you in the slightest to be "cockroaches". Hopefully, your fascist mentality will come to an end someday.

[@stahanaleron2478]

It's funny to see in what an illusory world the left-wing extremists are sitting, dreaming of turning all media entertainment into propaganda of their sick and disgusting woke ideology. It's even more funny how these pigs label "Nazis" on anyone who dares to be against it.

[@TheObsidianArchives]

*Checks replies *Says 4 *1 is visible Hmmmmmmmmm...

[@Leviathan762-zh4lq]

In other words "i don't like his opinion so i want it silenced"

[@datguy3581]

I'd argue that while AoT humanizes characters who hold a lot of horrible views, it's still pretty clear that the message is anti fascist and anti genocide. Looking at this last season, it's pretty clear to me that the message is that extremism and hatred are wrong regardless of who perpetuates it. That being said, some of the historical allusions are a bit messy. There's no denying that there is a big chunk or right wingers who like AoT but I also think that it isn't entirely the fault of the show. If participating in fandom spaces has taught me one thing, it's that people will completely misunderstand and misinterpret media and will not pick up on political themes or messages a lot of the time.

[@jeancarlo8796]

the message of attack on titan is anti-genocide but it is far from being a right-wing program, isayama is very patriotic, maybe if eren had not been consumed by the desire for revenge paradis would be prosperous because they had gotten rid of all the communist control and they had put a legit king to rule which was the history reiss (yes attack on titan also criticizes communism besides nazism)

[@isaiasaguirre342]

I'm not into AoT but i'm a New Fallout Fan, and i saw that a lot of people find factions like The Enclave or The Institute like the misunderstud villians, i don't think that.

[@GlitchBoy-ws5in]

If only AnimeFans have Brains

[@kovariszt]

Small correction/clarification: The website you show in the background in the part about 2chan is Futaba Channel, not 2chan (or as it's more correctly known: 2channel). It's kinda confusing since the url of Futaba Channel is actually 2chan. The website that Hiroyuki Nishimura created is 2channel, not Futaba Channel. The site 4chan is most directly related to is Futaba Channel, since unlike 2channel it allows posting of images (so 2channel isn't even an imageboard, but a textboard).

[@Tomartyr]

still trying to figure out if every catgirl is a fascist or if every fascist is a catgirl

[@Bluejay25]

"eat sand and get sick" my favorite line ever

[@thrax1831]

"What is the problem with a character being a different race than the source material?" Simple, we like the source, do not change it we like it how it is we are attached to the character as it is and we do not like people changing them for arbitrary political reasons.

[@Peasham]

So when Fate made Miyamoto Musashi, a real person, a blonde white woman, surely you protested. Surely.

[@thrax1831]

​@@Peasham What source material is Fate based on that they changed? Fate has a whole multiverse bullshit going on so there is in fact a male Miyamoto Musashi in fate as well that is from our wold. And thirdly what political reason was that done for? Like I said people hate when you take a character they are attached to, and change him. You are arguing in bad faith as your example doesnt fit what what I said whatsoever. Its the same reason why people dont shit on miles moralles for being black, because he is a different character from peter parker from an alternate universe or whatever bullshit marvel is using now. Just dont take an ALREADY ESTABLISHED character and change him. Dont make a historical drama and gender and race swap characters. If you want to make a parody where stalin is a woman you can romance go at it bud i couldn't care less. But if you want to make a documentary about ww2 then i expect stalin to look like his fucking portrait.

[@Peasham]

@@thrax1831 All Fate media spun off from Fate Stay/Night, an adult visual novel whose main cast contained Saber, a female who is explained to be the real king Arthur, whose true gender was hidden from writings due to immense sexism, this being a focal point of the story and her development as a character. Furthermore, not only is king Arthur obviously a fictional character, Miyamoto Musashi basically is, as a good chunk if not most of his life had always historically been mythologized. They have, as you've said, taken already established characters well known for their identities and swapped their immutable characteristics exclusively to spread the author's political agenda. Sounds like grounds for outrage to me. Also, to even imply that people don't whinge incessantly about Miles because he's black is hilarious, to state it outright is embarrassing.

[@anthonyjohnson4642]

if u r attached to a character bcuz there race u have a issue

[@thrax1831]

@@Peasham Well I dont see people winge about miles because he is black, but because marvel is trash. And again you are ignoring all my arguments and spinning your own little story. Lets simplify it for you. People get outraged when you: - race/gender swap a character in a historical drama - race/gender swap a beloved character from some beloved IP King Arthur in this instance that you mention is not a specific character from another IP. Like what part of "established ip" do you not understand? Nor is it trying to portray a historical figure in a historical context. Again, King Arthur is not a character from an established IP people love. It's a public domain character basically, and there are more takes on king arthur than you can probably count. People aren't attached to King Arthur as a concept but a specific rendition of him from a specific IP, and if you were to reboot the IP they like and gender/race swap him people would go ballistic. But making a parallel world with different takes on some characters that is for all intents and purposes a blank slate was always allowed.

[@rimjobz1234]

Wait... Where's the tasty food you wanna eat?

[@woke_karen]

I knew I was forgetting something 🤦

[@HogSlopp]

whats so funny to me is that arlong and the fishmen race in one piece are AN ALLEGORY FOR THE STRUGGLE OF BLACK PPL ..

[@datboi9994]

Oda never said that.

[@butter6442]

And Luffy and the Crew show compassion for the fisherman race. Even Nami tried overcame her hate for the individuals who tortured, killed and enslaved her family and friends. Luffy freed the Fisherman Island from tryanty. They showed racism, to show why you should be against it.

[@lasyak6355]

@@datboi9994 Anyone with two braincells can put together and connect the dots for allegorical racism in One Piece and how the Fishmen are a stand in for not just black people but also for other ethnic groups who might face prejudice. Read a book.

[@datboi9994]

@@lasyak6355 Oda still never said that was the case so you are just making an assumption that isn't true. Sorry to ruin your headcanon.

[@lasyak6355]

@@datboi9994 Do you understand what subtext means?

[@Speroindium]

0:07 the ultimate flex 😭

[@meepers0179]

Gets asked for credentials, proceeds to solely list Shonen.

[@deleteduser121]

Yeah, showed it really is the fascist arm of anime

[@OdaSwifteye]

@@deleteduser121 Shonen is really popular among black otakus though.

[@bbernyy64]

Are we supposed to be jealous that we haven't wasted hours of our lives on anime? Like if you enjoy it, fine but I can't imagine getting home and thinking: "Yay, let's do nothing for an extended period of time!" I have watched some anime, but I think getting mad at people for not watching enough/watching the same type of anime is just an attempt to justify the hours that you've wasted

[@albertobarbosa4938]

@@bbernyy64 If you haven't "wasted hours of your lives" on something, then you're under-qualified to talk about something and you'r opinion is worthless.

[@bbernyy64]

@@albertobarbosa4938 that was a bad take my bad

[@PixelatedB]

Im still arguing with some older relatives about sam wilson captain America

[@eglantinepapeau1582]

8:58 ask that to the people who attacked Scarlett Johansson for playing a japanese character or the casting of "gods of egypt" being attacked on all front . the movie and the anime are fictional , yet people got mad , and no one called them racist for it . aparetly only white people can be racist for complaining that their fav characters were race swapped . It's hypocritical to suggest people who complain about race swapping are racists but only blame one race for it and say nothing when others race do the same ( the hawaian actress cast to play in the Moana live action was insulted , even harassed online for "not being dark enough" . no one called that out .

[@jakesoros2376]

You've spoken too much common sense here. I'm sure some chuckleheads will respond with claims that you're a terrible r^cist who "dehumanizes people."

[@markd.9042]

Those things ain't right, but he's specifically talking about cosplay here.

[@jakesoros2376]

@@markd.9042 And he's talking about other, interconnected cultural fields as well. What's good for the goose is good for the garter.

[@markd.9042]

@@jakesoros2376 True.

[@neji-blm6579]

the problem with white ppl doing poc roles is that they take away an opportunity that could’ve gone to a poc, who have a harder time in the industry. and the thing that ppl were criticizing regarding moana is because of the history of colorism both within poc circles and outside

[@bred4bred]

the worst part talking too someone who has been sucked into the alt right pipeline thru anime is that they “swear” they aren’t political. Then 2 seconds later they say the most out right racist political statement you’ve ever heard 😀

[@bred4bred]

or maybe trying too take them out of the pipe line is worse idk

[@bred4bred]

@@richmrstonestone something a fascist would say 😴

[@richmrstonestone]

@@bred4bred You go there immediately. Playing video games as an adult is the most un- man like thing on earth, so I will assume your 12 and too young to think critically.

[@bred4bred]

@@richmrstonestone lmao then you’re picking a fight with a 12 yr old good on you. go out side touch some grass get a hobby honestly youre weird man 😂😂😂

[@jeancarlo8796]

imagine when you find out that all mangakas voted right in japan to protect themselves from american woke culture

[@youtubecomments2740]

"The most obnoxious, shitposting, bad faith attitudes" Oh hey that's me! That's me he's talking about! "What is the problem with a character being a different race than the source material?" None but they keep making them ugly, make them attractive. Can be any race so long as attractive. Also agree with opposing bullying and harassment. I'm with the alt right because I don't like organised, targetted harassment and exclusion. I also don't like narcissists denying responsibility, or crazies trying to enforce their delusions. And since that puts me in conflict with your usual reddit mods or twitter mobs who like organising harassment of anyone they disagree with, that inevitably leads to me jumping on the alt right bandwagon. Pretty sure if the nazis started doing more bullying and harassment than the woke crowd, I'd probably be alt left instead.

[@absolutelynotacommie]

This is a shitpost right?

[@ArchOfficial]

TIL holding up voting booths with firearms, attempting to assasinate members of parliament and plotting a fascist transfer of power preceded by a violent purge of political opponents is not "bullying" or "harassment". You gotta get your head out of your ass a bit.

[@jakesoros2376]

Right on man 👍

[@monkeyconvoy3097]

This seems like such an incredible niche, I have never once seen a Nazi Anime profile pic in my life, and don’t believe I ever will. It’s almost like this isn’t an actual problem that affects any facet of the real world!

[@bolson42]

Either blind ignorance or willful stupidity then

[@AFE-pens]

@@bolson42you seriously think this is a problem? First world issues holy god….

[@soraisakisrt]

@@bolson42 people have real problems that they face in a day to day basis that is... rather more important than people using anime characters depicted as a nazi for their profile pictures.

[@veritycloud1236]

​@AFE-pens most likely YOU live on a forst world nation You can still complain about first world problems even if their not the largets or the worst

[@AFE-pens]

@@veritycloud1236 yeah but like doing literally anything else with your time would be better. Going outside and talking to someone would benefit the world more than “the anime fascist problem!!! 🤓☝️”

[@johnnyhall9154]

AoT is about the cycle of war and no true good and evil, just perspective. Clearly, a lot of these comments and video did not realise that. But saw just how far war took Eren and decided that Eren's actions were the message of the show.

[@donaldbaird7849]

What's the music that's playing during the Attack on Titan section?

[@SleepyPj]

Backside of the TV

[@schwanyy8956]

@@SleepyPj i love you tysm

[@SleepyPj]

@@schwanyy8956 that's wild

[@anundolavengvik6309]

I actually became more accepting of lgbt people by seeing different gender norms and femboys in anime

[@johnnyhall9154]

It's true, have to blatantly ignore like 2 major genres for this video to make sense. Yaoi and Yuri, and any cross dressing character.

[@the_Pleiades]

Revolutionary Girl Utena (1997): The main character is a queer girl and her lover is an Indian lesbian. Turn A Gundam (1999): The main character is a tomgirl with dark skin. The supreme leader of the enemy country in the story is the queen. Studio Ghibli: Literally churning out strong female-driven plots. The director is an openly communist. Anime is pretty left field at times, but it only seems harmless due to the lack of Hollywood nonsense like celebrity narcissism, intentionally ugly casting, franchise takeovers, etc.

[@hexcodeff6624]

By left field, do you mean left politically? Cause non of that shit is inherently leftist.

[@cade4099]

Moustache gundam

[@george_3252]

If I'm not mistaken communists can equally share views that would be far right in the west as the Soviet Union was a good example on how badly they treated gay people and foreigners. Also radical feminists with persecution complex's like to place themselves above men and even use left racism to demonised straight white men so typical gamergate stuff. At the same time they'll equally denounce transgender people (mainly MtF) and sometimes gay men. So the idea of left and right being a black and white concept or a spectrum can't happen because those terms are concepts that are purely cultural, historical and based on beliefs.... a lengthy definition of political if accounting the historical part as crime. Anime itself is generally not political to have LGBT themes is irrelevant because what is considered ok Japan may not be ok in the west. I'm not saying Anime can't be left or right its just the video itself is aimed towards toxic minorities in fandoms, hate groups and Japanese history which accounts to nothing when talking about Anime.

[@Rondart]

Loran our femboy rep

[@coolbrotherf127]

This is the most poorly researched and un-nuanced video on the Japanese culture I've ever seen. This whole video comes off as so insensitive as it asserts that the Japanese cultural identity is objectively inferior to Western leftist ideals which is incredibly insulting. The Japanese people aren't idiots. They are only interested in educated and useful people who will build up their economy.

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

Bro please stop being such a snowflake and actually go outside and touch grass and interact with people from all walks of life instead of only talk to people that are similar to you

[@henryfleischer404]

Did you watch the same video I did? It did not assert any of what you said.

[@papa.psychedelic.]

​@henryfleischer404 it's between the lines you clearly didn't pay attention. I think he just slipped and let his xenophobia come out

[@brody2199]

At no point did he imply that western ideology is superior. In fact, it seems like it’s got a lot of the same problems. Only being interested in “educated and useful people” leads to a pretty obvious, very FINAL conclusion.

[@ferd3007]

I have no evidence but I'm convinced that anime is responsible of 90% red pill content existing in the world today.

[@Alexandraadftxr7052]

Well seeing that in 80% of the time when a man sais "letting women vote ruind everything", "modern women are bad because they don't want to be submisiv", ect he has a profil picture of an anime girl, I can agree with this coment.

[@Saxtrup]

I also have no evidence, but I'm convinced that the moon is a green cheese... On a more realistic side fascists are responsible for the spread of fascism. The rest of us are responsible for not being able to stop it. Considering 20+ years of studying modern fascism I would go so far as to say, that it is a tiny minority of actual fascists, that have any relation to anime, manga or the like. Don't mistake edgelords being assholes on the internet with the real movement of totalitarian ideologies, individuals and groups and how they are gaining footholds. I'm my opinion the overarching cause behind this is the inability of liberal capitalism to stem the multitude of crisises, that are affecting the world at this moment and the complete and utter failure of the left to provide a credible alternative. To claim that anime leads to fascism is really neither a well thought through statement, nor is it useful for anyone wishing to fight said fascism. "Just ban anime and 90% of fascists will be gone..." I think you can hear how stupid this sounds

[@failedatmakingasandwich423]

Conservatism ≠ fascism, racism, homophobia. A Conservative is just a person with traditional values. Extreme right-wing and conservatism are not the same. Just as a liberal isn't automatically a communist.

[@m.a.1765]

'Traditional values', at least in the context of the western world, includes religion (especially Christianity) and theism which more than often contains quite homophobic and even sexist ideologies also Liberals are not left-wing, liberalism is a right-wing ideology.

[@failedatmakingasandwich423]

@@m.a.1765 what are you smoking 🚬

[@m.a.1765]

@@failedatmakingasandwich423 I don't know. What are you smoking that makes you think that liberalism is a left-wing ideology or that religion isn't an innate part of conservatism?

[@failedatmakingasandwich423]

@@m.a.1765 okay but look. You don't have to be religious to be conservative and if someone is actively going around being homophobic, that person is just a prick. People can practice their religion without bothering other people.

[@failedatmakingasandwich423]

@@m.a.1765 And it seems liberalism depends on the country whether is right or left. But generally in America it's considered left wing.

[@whoawhoa4062]

When i saw the channel name, thumbnail, and title, I thought this was ironic, but holy shit it's actually real. What a sad state of affair to be making videos like this unironically.

[@replsortech2012]

all of that for 4 likes

[@decim161]

Cry harder

[@bbernyy64]

as the previous guy said, cry about it

[@sandenson]

What, did it all land a bit too close to home?

[@YuiTeaTime]

@@replsortech2012Likes doesn’t mean truth…. especially in the echo-chamber of a comment section this is

[@AbyssalSoda]

Ya know, one of the largest questions I have about left vs right wing politics. Why are left wing commentators like you and Vaush always so aggressive, insulting and confrontational. While I don't disagree with a lot of the points made here and how they can become gateways to darker ideologies - I always see at the end of videos like this calls to action that deliberately shame the viewer for inaction, rarely do I see the same in right wing content outside the most extreme of channels; rather strategies are used to mediate and attempt to reason with the viewer. Across the board this is becoming less common but as a guy who went to college for a media studies degree all this just feels laughable at this point.

[@Peasham]

I wasn't aware people should cater to your feelings.

[@AbyssalSoda]

@@Peasham Aggression is not defined as an emotion or feeling, rather it is described as a pattern of behavior. So no you aren't catering to my feelings. Unless you are using a red herring to discredit what I said by criticizing the fact I find such a pattern of behavior laughable.

[@Peasham]

@@AbyssalSoda I used a narrative device meant to deceive consumers of media to discredit what you said. Totally.

[@anthonyjohnson4642]

u gotta be lying if ur saying right wing basically nvr insult when ive havent seen a single right winger not insult and lestist only insult after being tired of their bs

[@AbyssalSoda]

@@anthonyjohnson4642 No I'm referring to commentators on KZbin, and how they attempt to reach and discuss with their respective audiences. Left seems to insult their audiences if they do not agree with their conclusions, while the right often encourages them to discuss their beliefs as to why they hold a differing view. Over the years this has decreased with the right wing making use of less mediator style language. But it's still prevalent enough to show a clear divide.

[@jacksoncooke261]

this video is unbelievably chill. good work

[@woke_karen]

Ty :)

[@TaytheTimeTraveler]

if there is a show that has a main character that is intentionally problematic (to critisize them and show how they are bad), there is a good chance there will be fans who idolize that character (doesn't matter if it is a protagonist or antagonist and it doesn't matter if it is a hero or a villain, they will still idolize them)

[@brappsniffs3924]

Walter White from Breaking Bad

[@somo4227]

not the creators fault tbh

[@land3021]

I blame cringe culture & other othering-practices plus tons of fucking biases that reinforce the practice of othering someone from a group, for making talking about this stuff divisive as fuck. Afterall there's always this line of "If you don't understand this reference in anime, then you're a boomer/other buzzword that makes you look bad and me look good/in the know/ingroup/look like a member of my community!" thinking permeating essentially everywhere you go online when you ask even one fucking question about something that is obvious to other people...

[@Happymars24]

The biggest take away from this video to me is the acknowledgment that any space with freedom of speech will become right wing.

[@DisgruntledPeasant]

...? That's a very strange takeaway

[@Happymars24]

@@j_k7769 only if you're far left. I am very much a free-speech enjoyer, and I've never been censored by someone to the right of my own views. They will argue and call me slurs but they don't censor. People to the left of my views call me a -ist or -phobe and remove my voice from the conversation. In places where they can't censor, far leftists tend to remove themselves either out of fear of having their own views challenged, or out of fear of being associated with the right for merely debating them.

[@Still-Struggling]

You realize fascism silences free speech right? The only the thing that must not be tolerated is intolerance it’s self. You cannot let people who want to violate human rights have a platform

[@igeljaeger]

It's not a bug it's a feature

[@sthembisonkosi2466]

This is my new favourite channel. Hope to see so much more of your work.

[@Zadamanim]

wtf are you talking about this is the worst video ive seen all year

[@theultimatebob9521]

@@Zadamanimwell we found the guys he was talking about lmao

[@Roshia_Cryo]

I hate woke

[@HevesSeferoglu]

Anime has a what now

[@d.3521]

Anime was a weird niche thing back then Most FR people got banished to niche sites Don't be surprised about the thing you created

[@bolson42]

Nobody “created” edgy losers online lmao

[@nqk_0662]

Uhh what the sigma ?

[@ethanthekirbyfan1013]

Dont let bro see hetalia's conventions...

[@Rosebud69]

​@@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993does he not literally mention attack on Titan in the video

[@Rosebud69]

It's almost like he had examples he was referring to

[@kaelell4697]

@@changingpeopleslivesmoon2993but tanya is the bad guy

[@GuPKay]

@@kaelell4697 Saga of Tanya the Evil?

[@Jenns228]

My roommate told me that "eren isnt a nazi, but nazis follow him due to a misundestanding" i havent seen it but i dont know if i should trust her interpetation

[@hotdog16000]

"I'm all caught up in one piece" ok immediate like

[@oneeyed9579]

Wat? Ahhh my gooood. Please have me mercy on me. I did not just hear a man getting suspicious of Anime having Fascism in Anime because people have Military Waifu pictures in their Profile. Next Video: Anime has created a Nazi army because one of the guys who watch anime really liked a Facist girl from Kill La Kill.

[@BryceTeeg]

Do the pfp really salt you this hard?

[@brappsniffs3924]

Clearly

[@piss7610]

Feeling called out?

[@theketaminekid1241]

Buzz off.

[@nonanimeprofilepic]

lol

[@zero.9831]

@@piss7610They don’t even have a pfp.

[@ramonabreu6424]

Hey unrelated question but witch stand from jjba would you choose out of all the stands. Me personally I choose wonder of u

[@woke_karen]

Probably heaven's door.

[@UpperNileGuy]

Thats facist you want to mind control people ​@woke_karen

[@handartgarfunkal]

Wow

[@Novictus]

@@woke_karen You are exactly the wrong kinda person to have that one.

[@Professionalhater87]

I would personally take D4C love train also if you really think about it, love train is the perfect counter for calamity since calamity is basically misfortune

[@NyxHarmonia6976]

Everyday I'm glad I deactivated my twitter.

[@zero.9831]

Being a poc (the term itself sounds stupid considering what picture it paints, like being an SJW), I personally find it dumb to raceswap because, it shouldn’t be subjective. If u can’t stand a character that was black, let’s say Blue Marvel, and make him a white man, then the same should be said for vice-versa. Either all of it’s okay, or none of its okay. You don’t get to draw the line where it benefits you. And to top it off, if you really wanna give the target audience (being poc) a genuine and good-willed tribute via movie or wtv, just make an original story. Stop being lazy and trying to pander for a quick buck.

[@jameztheartist3893]

Well it is all still subjective, and you can still feel the way you do. No right or wrong answers fr

[@tiffanywyatt5137]

​@@jameztheartist3893 in that case stop calling people racist for criticizing race swapping.

[@tiffanywyatt5137]

Disney, for example, could take an actual African folktale or story and make a movie about it. Just like how they did with European stories and folktales but instead they just give you sloppy seconds

[@josesosa3337]

​@@tiffanywyatt5137yep. No one complains about mulan, the princess and the frog, turning red, moana, and Lil and sticth. Its crazy how the race swap little mermaid was made into a racial contreversy. Because people care about creativity, even if they're not fans of a particular property.

[@gaybowser4967]

There's often times quite a big difference. Ethnic minority groups rarely get to see themselves in good roles, it's often times they're the oppressed class, and even when they are in a good role, it's as a doctor or sports player or cop or politician, roles that are likely unattainable for them, unrepresentative of them, and often times institutions that they grow up hating. Race swapping to make a character white instead of black more often than not had/has racist incentives behind it, and if it doesn't, it accidentally reproduces racism largely bcs of this part of the character being removed. Yes, their skin colour shouldn't matter but bcs of centuries of racism that is still perpetuated today, it does, and we can't dance around the issue willy nilly. While creating new characters that represent ethnic minorities is a better idea, race swapping from x minority group to being white, is not equivalent to swapping from white to x minority group in any way.

[@hotgrapescomics]

In Praise of Shadows be like

[@JingleJoe]

"I've never watched anime, but let me tell you all about anime!" no

[@raindrop4308]

Exactly

[@HobbiesGamesChillin]

been watching anime longer then most of you have been alive he isnt wrong

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

​@@HobbiesGamesChillin agreed

[@Sassy_Witch]

thats how these dudes are. "I'm not part of this community but let me tell you how wrong you are" its always the same and why soooo many communities ended up ruined forever. Absolute clowns

[@JesterQueenAnne]

As someone who got into anime while Haruhi was still airing, he is 100% correct.

[@Deunan_Knute]

"I love anime, in fact I love it so much that I want to change it because some stuff in it offends me. I'm a baby and i can't deal with stuff that I don't like like a normal adjusted adult would do, so I want to change it, I love anime so much that I'm telling people from other culture that their culture is offensive to me and they should change it to accommodate me. I know better than them, so I will tell them what is inappropriate" Stop this. stop listening to people like him.

[@sqeekeezthehamster1116]

thank you Japan is a completely different culture sand it is infuriating that people make videos saying "this should is a problem" or "this should changer" when it is a completely different culture to begin with

[@Peasham]

What is your opinion on the fact that the most successful and talked about anime in Japan in the previous few years is one featuring an explicitly lesbian couple alongside incredible diversity with zero Japanese characters in it?

[@Deunan_Knute]

@@Peasham are you asking me? idk it's yuri, i don't watch yuri. I don't even know what anime are you talking about, is that Gundam show?

[@ateliermink6340]

Dude, I've been an anime fan since '98. There was definitely a huge shift in the early 00s and there's a LOT more straight up nationalism in anime now. We can bring that up. Media critique is good, and you're allowed to criticize things you like. And he was also criticizing western anime fandom. Because now you have 4channers bragging that they're the 'og anime fans' when the REAL OG anime fans absolutely hated chan sites. We should've called them out more in retrospect. Ugh

[@Deunan_Knute]

​@@ateliermink6340 dumb take, so you think that loving your country is a bad thing. Also, the second part of your argument has nothing to do with anime, but with western fandoms. People who make everything political, people who nobody likes to be around. I see that most of the complaints that people like the guy in this video have with anime are complaints expressed through the political lens of American progressives. All these complaints can be summarized as:: "I don't like that this anime doesn't show the ideas I believe in". They are not complaints about the bad animation, the repetitive stories of the Shonen and Isekai, they are not complaints about the unoriginality of the anime industry today. No, only complaints about politics. Friend, I will tell you the same thing they tell us when we don't like something "if you don't like it don't watch it" or "if you don't like it, it's because it's not for you". Anime fans do NOT want American politics to infect anime, we do not want the entire anime industry to become another Marvel or another Star Wars.

[@myaccountiguess]

I’ve been wanting to see a video essay on the politics of naruto and how the genocide of the uchiha was seen as an unfortunate but necessary act… so uh video idea I guess

[@coolbeans6148]

"Every opinion thats different from mine = Literally Hitler."

[@definitelynottoiletpaperman]

​@sesshomaru6309Ernst Röhm might disagree

[@definitelynottoiletpaperman]

@sesshomaru6309 no gay nazis allowed then?

[@AuuuAuuuo]

More like people openly claiming to be Nazis = Nazi. But nice logical fallacy. Maybe it works with anime fans.

[@YuiTeaTime]

@@AuuuAuuuo​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠Ahahahahahahhahahahaha Thats not how it works, please define a nazi, like honesty please tell me. Also define a logical fallacy while you’re at that. Holy, this comment is going to make me choke on my water.

[@AuuuAuuuo]

@@YuiTeaTime this person spouted an argument saying that people who identify and criticize overt Nazis, are actually targeting "people who think differently". Which is untrue, but worded in a way that might convince people online with anime profile pictures. Thanks for proving my point.

[@AmandaMyTan]

Came here from IG and always look forward to your interesting and educated takes.

[@legendarybrotato2930]

Yeah no ive felt the bigotry first hand, as a trans woman its hard for me to exist in anime discussion spaces because without knowing what i am, they will just go off and bash minorities just unprovoked

[@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45]

Same. I'm also really selective about what anime I watch, and will avoid anything with transphobic content.

[@george_3252]

Be that as it may it doesn't represent anime as a whole. The video was basically just on about past infamous Japanese practices in WW2 and toxic fanbases. I'm sorry that you've gone through that but those people don't speak for me and this guy's video certainly is making plenty of misguided points.

[@george_3252]

@@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45 what kind of anime have you come across that contains transphobic content?

[@natalimoina]

​@@george_3252tons of anime are incredibly transphobic and the WW2 stuff and whatnot is extremely relevant as these ideas and ideologies still exist and plague Japan today.

[@george_3252]

@@natalimoina First off I've not seen any pro WW2 Japan/ Nazis or transphobic content. I know the later is used very casually now especially by Gen z people. I heard it being used a lot with femboys etc so I'd like you to elaborate. Because all what I'm getting so far with this video and some of these comments is westerners pushing their values on eastern content.

[@fledadmiral8826]

12:19 Have you done any research about him? Akiyama Yoshifuru is not war criminal he was just a general of IJA at Russo-Japanese war (1904-1905) If you are lazy enough to do any research, just read wiki at least en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akiyama_Yoshifuru

[@crossdaboss8914]

This video doesn't feel like it had much research done. In general

[@Sassy_Witch]

I mean the guy literally has no clue and propably never visited japan, so I'm not surprsied.

[@ateliermink6340]

Have YOU done research. Specifically on what he did in Korea?

[@Who_Knows-kp1yq]

@@ateliermink6340 Wasn't he basically just a witness during the Port Arthur Massacre though? (I know you're referring to Korea, even though the massacre occurred in China but I can't find anything else relating Yoshifuru)

[@OtoriKaedeisFuuuuuunny]

he probably thinks that the meiji restoration was backed by the nazis

[@namelessresource5782]

"Yeah guys I love anime I watched like 2 episodes of One Piece, now here's why anime has a fashismus problem and why everyone should just agree with me instead!"

[@luxill0s]

Really noteworthy that the one word you misspelled is “fascist.” Don’t wanna tell on yourself, huh?

[@joshuamcguire4498]

I’ve been following you on TikTok for some time and really enjoy your short form content. However I think you’re a natural fit for longer form videos like this. Top tier editing, great pacing, and very well informed and interesting. Excited to see what else you do in the future!

[@pinochet3698]

As a K-On! pfp user on twitter, seeing the other side through this video was very funny to me. And I do talk about anime and politics in real life while showing my face. Seeing the facial reactions in real-time is priceless. As someone who's political beliefs have shifted over several years, I think the "pipeline" is misunderstood by people who aren't right wing (mainstream conservatives don't count). Ben Shapiro and PragerU content will not turn you into me (speaking as a former patron). The most effective content is very niche and decentralized. Having moved to the right, I feel like "SJW OWNED" type content actually hinders the pipeline, and mostly acts to placate ineffective conservatives who conserve nothing. Mainstream conservatism keeps you in the loop, only things outside of it draw you away from it.

[@YuiTeaTime]

Its absolutely saddening for whats happening to the mainstream rw sphere in the past decades. Shifting of overtone window and optic seeking. PragerU and the Daily Wire has absolutely poisoned the well with neo-con propaganda, liberal globalist bs that they have been pushing out. The watering down of actual right wing takes is just absolutely disgusting as well. The Judiac neo-cons have been encroaching for far too long and has severely damaged the views that we should being upholding. This video is extremely funny as this is mid-wit garbage that has been made for years on at this point. Funny isn’t it PS Yui is wife

[@alicemalice2597]

Couldn’t agree more, it’s that type of “leftist OWNED with FACTS and LOGIC” content that encourages mainstream conservatives to content themselves with sitting on their asses and laughing at their enemies, pointing out how silly and hypocritical they are by saying things like “imagine if the situation were reversed!” and “leftists are the REAL racists!”. What they don’t realise is that their enemies know they’re hypocrites and simply don’t care because they’re literally just evil and lying/hypocrisy is an effective strategy. Rather than Judeo-gatekeepers like shapiro and prager, the most effective “right wing propaganda” is to simply observe the behaviour of leftists. It’ll make you right wing faster than anything else, providing you have a soul. As a side note, it’s a real whitepill to see this sort of thing discussed openly in the comments, especially given the kind of trash the original video is. I wouldn’t have imagined these sorts of based comments being mainstream 5-10 years ago.

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

You realize a core tenant of the pipeline is how in time you “out right-wing” the ‘mainstream right’ and shit. Like that’s what it is designed to do. You aren’t a contradiction, you are a living example of how this manipulation works

[@YuiTeaTime]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@cantthinkofaname5046​​⁠Ahahahahahahhahahaha Holy you are going to make me cough my lung out. “Oh if you’re right wing then you must’ve been manipulated and radicalized and if you don’t bend the knee to my varying stances then you are a bad person” what is this bs. “Oh well so and so breadtuber de-radicalized me and now Imm a flaming homosexual soc-dem”, OP made a factual statement, of the right wing pipeline, the mainstream right wing has been pushing the overtone window more and more in which is leading to disastrous results. It seems to me that you are very ignorant regarding how political beliefs work and making it as if he helds some evil horrible belief by your personal moral stances. “Oh if this individual is right wing then he 100% must’ve been indoctrinated, instead they should be like me and become a leftists just because since its obviously the more morally superior choice” How bout let me tell you something, you are a living example as to how manipulation works because all your opinions are inorganic and were given by some breadtuber essayist. You see, and don’t even try to say “theres no such thing as a left wing pipline”. This comment is garbage and shows that you have the shallowest ideas of how political opinions are form. (Reposting this comment since previous comment went missing)

[@YuiTeaTime]

@@alicemalice2597xir the person commenting under you is a midwit. Its over

[@monkemanmma]

I love leftist saying not wanting immigrants in your country is a bad thing

[@loturzelrestaurant]

Yeah maybe because its inhumane what the USA does, historically the 'bad guys' have also alwaysss been anti-immigrant' and thats al not even mentinoing all the things pointed out and proven in the Border-Crisis-Vidoes by "Some More News"

[@lordtraxroy]

Irony they want immirgants so badly see european leftist

[@WastedBananas]

there's nothing wrong with being anti immigration

[@Leviathan762-zh4lq]

These people are delusional 😂 leave Japan alone they don't need the kind of chaos that's happening in France, Ireland or Sweden

[@alicemalice2597]

open borders for israel, without the diversity they will not survive

[@Hexie094]

correlation and causation blah blah blah, but most of the time you see a fascism or fascism adjacent post about how bad women/lgbtq+/black/etc... people are its coming from an anime pfp, really makes you think

[@actualgoblin]

I think the connection between the alt right and anime , says a ton more about the alt right than it says about anime as a whole. Fascism thrives on aesthetics, but I don't believe anime exists to appeal to those aesthetics.

[@stonks3507]

@@actualgoblinCould be why so many Alt-right people love K-On!

[@theultimatebob9521]

I’m a one piece fan and the fact that a lot of them are racists and homophobes is so confusing to me, did we watch the same show?

[@butter6442]

No, like how. Feminist Frequency said Breath of the Wild is sexist without even playing it.

[@Sakurae__]

​@@butter6442what does that have to do with this

[@edwardjennings6021]

​@@butter6442I believe you've clicked the wrong comment

[@blob4492]

or maybe, you don't have to share a political view to enjoy something

[@theultimatebob9521]

@@blob4492 bruh it’s just humanity

[@kittyaya3425]

I watch a lot of animes and read a lot of manga. I did not know that there were fascism supporting animes. Thank god i didn't, but now i do.

[@OtoriKaedeisFuuuuuunny]

watch out when you watch the starship troopers anime, you might start the 4th reich

[@kittyaya3425]

@@OtoriKaedeisFuuuuuunny lol I should not laugh but I am

[@jameztheartist3893]

​@@OtoriKaedeisFuuuuuunny😂😂

[@flame2015]

and these are the same people who idolize the main character in Fight Club…

[@CMG02]

And u.s is about to have a fascism problem

[@lucymorrison]

already does

[@christiannipales9937]

Then you walk into the Youju Senki fanspace

[@W0lffb0y]

Holy shit, this is Ice Cream Sandwich IRL?!

[@IsekaiApostle]

The best thing about anime is that it doesn’t conform to the west’s “woke” standard of cancel culture.

[@HobbiesGamesChillin]

fun fact: in Japan cancel culture is worse as many manga artists have literally killed themselves after social pressure lead to them losing standing in Japans strict social hierarchy maybe learn about a nation and its REAL culture instead of thinking porn is real life

[@IsekaiApostle]

@@HobbiesGamesChillin Fun ACTUAL fact: Everything you said has nothing to do with “woke” culture. The “strict social hierarchy” in Japan is conservative/traditionalism which is the exact opposite of “woke” which is socialist/progressive. And I would like multiple examples of artist that have “did that” for that reason, not just what you read on X/Twitter. And not something from 20+ years ago. And who said anything about Japanese fiction being real life? Maybe learn the differences in political jargon before attempting a debate you have no possibility of winning.

[@HobbiesGamesChillin]

Japan isnt conservative its liberal first off secondly they are cancelled and end up killing themselves (say the word you coward) which is something you lot claim is just done by the woke finally you claim Japan doesnt have cancel culture when its worse there as there are even words found only in Japan to describe companies and industries that have a "bullying problem" @@IsekaiApostle

[@anthonyjohnson4642]

define woke and cancel culture isnt bad nvr has been

[@IsekaiApostle]

@@anthonyjohnson4642 Pushing an agenda that divides races by making up problems that haven’t existed since the 1960’s, while at the same time promoting bigotry to straight male Caucasians. Making the “male gaze” into something negative while encouraging “girl bosses” and promiscuity. Basically the opposite of equality but it’s in the disguise of equality and diversity. And yes it’s a negative and regressive. Definitely not “progressive”.

[@phontoid]

God these long form videos of yours are amazing. Definitely not something I thought I would see when I checked out your KZbin

[@clay4890]

i like the pacing of this dude's speech, something about it makes it a lot easier to follow than other content creators i've watched

[@ggplayzgames255]

its probably cause he keeps saying buzzwords like fascist so you listen more

[@clay4890]

@@ggplayzgames255 i don’t mean the words, more the rhythm than what he’s actually saying

[@somo4227]

half of it is just internet buzzwords

[@ggplayzgames255]

... if your a commie like his audience @@somo4227

[@Flipdagoose]

when i saw this video i audibly went ''yeah you know what? anime does have a fascism problem''

[@AFE-pens]

Yeah! 🤓☝️ anime does in fact have a facism problem 🐑. Ima say it bro. Anime does not have a facism problem this is small niche of people who act like this.

[@kvgiris]

​@@AFE-pensNerd emoji = correct (right?)

[@ゆっくり鑑賞アカウント]

@@kvgiris yeah beacause its so stupid to say anime have a problem when its actually 4 chan's problem

[@umrayquazashinyapareceu1672]

Just now i realised how naruto is either supporting or against this ideals. Proof? Tobirama senju (and the whole "endless uchiha hate/fear" thing he has)

[@AFE-pens]

@@kvgiris “erhm you can’t just use a nerd emoji to win the argument!!!!!” - 🤓☝️

[@Shaddowkhan]

People that are racist and watch One Piece tells me we've lost the plot.

[@5eyoshi]

Fun fact, anime comes from Japan, fun fact, Japan had an alliance with the first Fascist nation

[@GustavoRodriguez-qr5po]

Why should Japan be a colony of the US? Let Japan be Japan

[@starbeary]

bro you do realise that the average japanese person is not gonna agree with you right? its not 1920 its 2024 if you tell them how much you love anime lolis you are probably just gonna get weird looks by people and those small amount of japanese people that do agree with you are probably in their moms basement drawing loli 🌽 like your the type of mf that says they want an asian gf yet reject a Indonesian girl cuz shes not "asian enough" also why are you comparing this to killing people and slaving them

[@eureka5635]

@@george_3252 Then you haven't watch much anime or read much manga, there are plenty of anime and manga have have "Woke" views. I'm sorry to say this to you but its not a paragon of right wing ideals. It's a genre and lot all genres each artist has their own views.

[@george_3252]

@eureka5635 My comment literally denounced neo nazisn and I ain't right wing... or left wing for that matter. I'm not obligated to agree or like nonsensical politics being shoehorned into a series. I should be able to watch something without some gender cult logic or reviving history to shame a certain culture. It is the saying "go woke go broke". Its why anime such as MHA is ongoing and High Guardian Spice flopped (ps its why forcing western wokeness is a bad idea) take crap like She hulk attorney at law, captain marvel, the new generation marvel disney movies with female protagonists and the 7-9 star wars movies. Edit - not saying female protagonists also make something woke I worded that last bit weirdly I meant how feminism has to be shoehorned in with some female protagonists rather than applying good story.

[@FunnyParadox]

​​@@george_3252One Piece is the most woke anine ever AND it's the most famous anime ever in most of the world (and it's one of the most in the rest of the world)

[@FunnyParadox]

@@EnderPlayerTV ethnonationalism (past the point of creation) is 100% right wing, and exacly this isn't "woke" but most people are saying everything is "woke" just because it has women, black, trans, xxx... people (which one piece all have) and being anti-governement can be from every political ideologies (from the far left to the far right)

[@averydissapointedparent6124]

really vibin with the long form videos, keep it up!

[@ThatPerStephanie]

I followed you over from TikTok. Super interesting. I always look for stuff like this to send my little brothers.

[@Dara-wk5ty]

"Anime has a fascism problem" or in other words "I really need to ruin this media I haven't ruined yet"

[@molegod8579]

have you not watched the video?

[@Dara-wk5ty]

@@molegod8579 Yes, 3-4 times mostly through a front-end Other opinions than your own exist

[@molegod8579]

​@@Dara-wk5ty of course other opinions exist,i just don't see how you came to that conclusion. he never talked about changing the medium itself,he talked about the toxic parts of the culture that can actively lead down the alt-right pipeline.

[@das_hans]

A little extra context on the development in the general culture of anime these days I think maybe looking at the current culture presented by Webnovels from not just Japan but also China and Korea. These days a lot of the most popular narratives in the field come from there and mix and match between genuine creative efforts in and clear propaganda. A lot of them present simplified worlds with simplified moral construction in order to create self insert fantasies of all sort of teenage frustrations. (in essence fascist crack) Want to be a justified bastard to everyone? good the world is bad and everyone is evil, so the protagonist being evil is just him fighting back... The more nuanced and thoughtful out of these fall by the wayside as "slow" or "confusing". Characters that are self-aware and have moral integrity that isn't just thinly disguised condescension and self justification, are called whiny and boring. Meanwhile they present absolutely delusional fascist worldviews as reasonable and self evident. A lot of this stuff is free and easy to find, creating sort of endless narratives that basically just facilitate the sort of "slap back porn" developmentally stunted egotistical people are primed to get addicted to. Your favorite show is only 20 epidsodes and you need to wait a year for more. Here are 3000 chapters of a book with updates every day. and its free. Anyway this stuff fills the need for power-fantasy, but also is set up to produce anxiety as soon as the situation isn't immediately clear. essencially making you addicted to the dopamine of selfjustified violence, while making twist as traumatic as possible (for engagment) leading to regular sane stories make you anxious and still disappoint. I think there are some clear signs of an effort to reprogram the the sort of terminally online neet culture that is so vulnerable to the sort of political theories that would never survive contact with reality. anyway its an interesting field to look at maybe, and sort of relevant since we are getting more and more anime coming from that field. A place where people can live in a delusional dream reality that never ends, preventing all danger of even accidentally touching grass. all in a neat format that even the cheapest worst internet connection should be able to handle with ease. Then there are also live service style subscription versions to not just brainrot bored nerds but also milk the rich or vulnerable ones. anyway. its a fun world. and I didn't even get into the ones targeted at women. I think there are probably worthwhile elements here that are worth protecting. such as the democratic publishing model (services such as royal road and so on have that I think) but there is some dark shit. its messy and confusing and but i think it could benefit from analysis.

[@geschnitztekiste4111]

The only valid fascist in anime is Strohheim from JoJo, who is just so absurd on a conceptual level that you kinda have to admire him. Like, a screaming cyborg N@zi who never turns good or anything, but still helps out the protagonists because the main villains are an even bigger threat than even the N@zis, essentially becoming an ally by accident. Just the balls to write this, man. And this comes from one of the most progressive animanga series out there, where themes like oppression through governments, hospitals and the police are pretty commonly criticized and where like most other characters are pretty androgynous, qeercoded, or just confirmed to be queer. So yeah, he's meant as a joke, but his role still plays with expectations in a fun way.

[@chipkid]

As a Jewish person, and a magical girl anime fan, the main anime community scares me.

[@jinjasdiorlocket]

Fr tho, thats why i decided im just straight up limiting my anime list to comedy, Junji Ito, ones that are EXPLICITLY about trans people and the shoujos i enjoyed during my early adolescense.

[@stylinsandwich]

​@@jinjasdiorlocket you fo know that you can watch shows without interacting with their community right? Just watch anime you wanna watch without caring about the fanbase

[@jinjasdiorlocket]

@@stylinsandwich oh bestie...the fanbase often times finds ways to interact with you. Trust me, i was once a my hero fan...

[@stylinsandwich]

@@jinjasdiorlocket they won't unless you are chronically online

[@GwainSagaFanChannel]

​@@stylinsandwich i mean if you call people having social media chronically online thats not really true since everyone seems to use social media to interact with people

[@ravensong13]

Hell yeah, you sold me on Japan

[@Republic_of_Tim]

Great video, dude 👍 I've been following your TikTok for a while and I definitely think you've got the knack for longer form videos. Keep it up!

[@woke_karen]

Ty :)

[@richmrstonestone]

🤦‍♂️😂😂😂😂. By all means, encourage the whine dribble....

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@woke_karen ...Fight Fascism by Learning about Fascism! The KZbinrs Some More News, Renegade Cut and Second-Thought cover it well.

[@Somethingaweful]

I'd like to remind people that "Kamakaze Rolls" are a standard for any sushi joint here in America. You can't complain about Asia having "fascist" clothing... But pretend Star Wars isn't a thing. Or that the Japanese Imperial flag isn't a huge thing here.

[@ThisChangeIsAwful]

Using "i pissed in the basement because my wife went out to get pizza with another dude while I'm streaming" as the face for complaining about wokeness in marvel is actually perfect.

[@coolbrotherf127]

This video is incredibly insulting to Japanese people. You pretty much just called their culture trash because it doesn't agree with you.