EP-237| Data 'Loot', Privacy Risks, AI's Dark Side: Big Tech's Ploy for India Exposed | Lt Col Rajan

[@sahanaathreya7259]

Col. Rajan is truly a visionary and a modern-day Chanakya. His insights into national security, technology, and defense are profound and timeless, offering a roadmap that India urgently needs to embrace. His ability to foresee and articulate the multifaceted threats facing our nation is both sobering and inspiring. As a country, we must rise to the occasion, broaden our perspective, and take proactive steps to address these challenges head-on. Leaders like Col. Rajan remind us of the critical importance of strategic thinking and innovation in safeguarding our nation’s future.

[@prateekdeoli1552]

The talk on this podcast itself is the proof why we lack in security thinking, no structure talk!

[@prachithapliyal3901]

The interviewers should have read up before this session. They seem to be clueless about what is being spoken about. Smita prakash jumps into the conversation because she has finally grasped something where she thinks she can contribute intelligently. Col Rajan should be interviewed by someone who actually knows the subject

[@ggolu2]

Yea absolutely ruined the interview and stupidly annoying. Not a minute of the interview went without me polluting my mouth. Constant naive childish questions and comments.

[@lovesharmajammu]

While I agree to a large extent, if some expert talk to Col Pavi, the content and language may become too much for common folks to understand. Not saying common folks are dumb, but experts talking among themselves could become too complex for general audience.

[@SubstratumMaxima]

In fact this could be a whole new interview if smita's son interviews colonel solo

[@JNP-c1h]

@prachithapliyal3901, uncle not everyone is expert of everything. For a change it's good to have an interviewer who's asking questions that the viewers will ask. If you're so intelligent, which I highly doubt based on your chu comment, why don't you start a channel and let's see who you can get to talk to you. Not take a seat or back to your cave. Ciao.

[@s.k.vigneshkarthikeyan2887]

If you want a good podcast , go for a higher level knowledge and intelligent podcast, dont try to artificially dumb down by putting an idiot co-interviewer . Who is like a kid and making the guest to talk about something that he wants without completing the prev. Topic.

[@sunnypant9107]

Col Pavi is brilliant as always. I only wish he gets to interact at the highest level with the Govt in an advisory capacity as it is quite evident that the bureaucracy and the higher echelons of military leadership have so far only floundered in drafting an institutionalised policy structure on ICT for lack of understanding of the subject and strategic thinking. (Uber fiasco being one such recent live example..) Maybe LBSNAA too would be a great place for people like Col Pavi to interact with future administrators and foreign policy makers. The last 10 mins of the podcast where Pavi almost philosophically talks about humility to learn and never to bargain capability vis a vis intent touched a chord somewhere deep. The mother& son duo really complemented well to do justice to the subject. Thank you Smita for an excellent conversation. Your podcasts are definitely a cut above the rest. More power to you.

[@vasusingh2475]

Yup, he should be heading some recommendation committee to the GOI.

[@Anurag-s8v]

There should be 100s of col in the policy level of the government not only at centre but at the state level too!

[@abhijithgopal]

Please stop interrupting your guests! Let them at least complete their train of thought!

[@Jetset_kev]

Seriously.

[@krr3502]

Damn even I wanted to say the same thing she always do these irritating thing

[@OmNamahShivaaya]

Like little children in a classroom immature idiots

[@ManCan1203]

A very informative discussion. The Colonel is a fountainhead of wisdom. Thanks. 🙏

[@bhavtosh5328]

Great discussion, sir. From this discussion: 1.Enrich our country's diversity 2.Avoid huge debt. 3.Remove the permanence of Govt jobs as it is plaguing the system like rot.

[@gauravsolanki4249]

Stop interrupting him you fools. Let him 🗣️

[@patelaakash267]

I’m only here to watch smita interrupt the guest…

[@jaivora423]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ranabhumi.2024]

Brilliant. Most up to date. Keep inviting him often. Next gen will pickup from him.

[@MANOHAR5524]

Jeez!!! I can sleep comfortably now,i am amazed to hear such a brilliant mind,with abundant wisdom on display...truly honoured.

[@pankajtiwari461]

Strange...!!! Now I'm not able to sleep...!!!

[@Batega_toh_Katega_Hindu_108]

Enemies of nation will sleep at this point.

[@mayankdr]

Agree! But we shouldn't forget she is the one who gave him this platform. Thanks to her, I know who Col Pavi is. I hope he goes to another podcast. Side note - every time I listen to him, I feel scared for Bharat.

[@aniruddhadeshmukh753]

With due respect can both the hosts let Lt.Col speak? So many interruptions where he is going to speak something intersting and these guys interrupt and change the topic.. 😢

[@s.k.vigneshkarthikeyan2887]

The other guy is useless, dont allow him to speak. Why is he there in the podcast

[@naveenaniruddha2809]

+1 they need to be better listeners when he is speaking. It’s ticking off us listeners.

[@walnutbrb5862]

Colonel Pavi gives a broad spectrum futuristic view of the information warfare challenges we need to brace up to. The country needs to shed its lackadaisical attitude and myopia and wake up to reality. My compliments to the excellent interview.

[@vivekananthakrishnan547]

Col Pavithran is erudite soldier. He speaks on various subjects encompassing the realm of cyber security and in simple terms for the layman to understand. Pavi is an infantry man and a regimental soldier. No one can understand the nuances better as he has been on ground and seen most of it. Excellent talk.

[@assamuncovered5577]

55:06 thanks finally a military veteran accepted the clear strategic importance of Bangladesh ..I wonder how India can't anticipate the 3rd front war ..and it is also important to accept the fact that's India's neighbourhood always in the turmoil and once a legend said if you want to conqueror the World first need to conqueror your neighbour. PS- here the conqueror of India's perceptive is different India will not rule neighbours but predominantly India will assist in every possible way ..IF India want to fight a war most probably not but if in the future then the Kinetic war should be fought on another soil

[@CyberSafeHaven]

Interrupting incessantly is very annoying, Lt. Col needs to complete his line of thought. In-depth research make great interviews, superficial googling is not research. Narrow down a specific topic and have shorter interviews.

[@322ajinkya]

Yes Smita & Co. you are smart, now let the guest talk. We are here to listen him without interruptions.

[@AnglicaBerry-q8p]

legalrightsguru AI fixes this. Data 'Loot', Privacy Risks, AI

[@vijaybgood]

What a legend... The only person who has any real understanding of the world... Im glad i stumbled upon this podcast..!!!

[@shivampatil23]

This is the best Podcasts series of ANI ❤❤

[@dudefire100]

what quality journalism... keep it up Smita...

[@swarnabelgur5057]

Amazing podcast.. I could thoroughly identify with Smitha as I don't come from a tech background.. but yet as a lay man could understand how much of young minds can contribute to our nation's growth and security.. I wish this podcast is seen by the audience who can take up their careers moulding their own and our nation's future..

[@navrajgrewal12]

Brilliant synthesis by Col Pavithran of geopolitics regarding US the hegemon and China the challenger and where we stand in all this. Our dependence on ICT built on foreign sw/hw renders us completely vulnerable. Things we need to do. Introspect with humility how a great civilisation could be colonised for centuries by a handful outsiders. Look & relearn strategy, have no cultural biases, plan for the longterm. Make policies to back our people so critical tech can be homegrown making us independent of external dependency. Social cohesion is central to security in our diverse nation. Media/Politicians need to be mindful of not creating divisive narratives.

[@Hubrisslayer]

I hope the government gets the message about the need for data localisation.

[@-abhi]

Then how will children of ips,ias babus will go to ivy leagues There is deep connection between foreign officials and corrupt indian government officials, they gave visa and kickbacks to stall our atmanirbhar projects

[@Parvathpura]

"Colleague" Ishaan prakash

[@Jojo19062]

In office its obviously colleague

[@QuantumNinja1.9]

Why this family don't let anyone else from ANI interview someone?

[@loneranger345]

Col Rajan is pure intellectual genius!🇮🇳🫡

[@monkeeys23]

Dont break the chain of thought, no structure by the interviewers, smita diverted the conversation from the most important ones even when the important conversation came up,

[@AkashGupta-lr4cx]

This is so true collectively we need to be a part of this and play our role in this , save our nation.

[@ans241057]

An excellent interview, the most informative one I have come across on our security issues. This is probably the first time the social cohesion factor was elaborated as much , kudos to the Colonel. This is truly a must watch for all Indians.

[@VijeDerm]

Excellent inputs by Col Pavithran, thought process corrections needed by Indian Bureaucrats and Politicians

[@pradeepkumar-tx9no]

Col Pavitran, as usual, highlighted the threat posed by Information Warfare (IW) and made a strong case for reengineering our lackadisical approach to national security. His appeal to weigh security implications in the current global information environment needs serious consideration by decision makers and common man alike. The anchors may consider letting the speaker share their insights without interruptions as it frequently takes the discussion on a tangent. ANI may consider projecting a slide showing the Information Warfare spectrum rather than restricing it to 'Propaganda' alone.

[@prasadrn5896]

Hope Col. Rajan's services are utilized fully by the govt, just like Mr. Doval.

[@nikhilshetty8932]

The subject is so is like tip of the iceberg and critical for any nation or individual, when it opens ups the linkages can be applied actually to anything and everything in digital and technological era. Kudos to you taking up this subject for discussion. Great informative podcast. And brilliant ability of Lt Col Rajan to seamlessly throw light on things coming up in discussion 👍

[@ManavikRaj-k7i]

Brilliant podcast 👏

[@Jaswant-io5sx]

A brilliant podcast covering an interesting topic affecting us all, which has been lucidity covered by Col Rajan. Policy makers need to act on the suggestions & implement policies lest we miss the bus. A must watch.

[@sanjogvishwakarma4859]

Mind blowing 😎

[@cokedupnormies2651]

Samosa Caucas bringing real issues to the fore 👏👏👏 Bow let's talk about the income inequality between the secular elites and the custodians of the civilization class!

[@abhijitlimaye]

This is a very interesting conversation on very wide ranging topics.. Great! Intellectual, thought provoking.

[@amar2727]

thanks to ANI, when do we get a ANI platform in indian webspace. please make snippets of this interviews and questions for general welfare of all indians and global south

[@dr.deveshsahu9165]

Good discussion, we need more such discussions and awareness among masses.

[@navrajgrewal12]

Brilliant schooling on hegemon & challenger geopolitics and where we stand. The hostess has got so many high ranking bureaucrats, politicians & military officers but I doubt anyone has given choices and on point education on geopolitics like Col Pavithran has done. Hope the lady asks relevant questions( on geopolitical issues brought out here) to these guys when she hosts them in future. Actions are more important than sloganeering. China follows Deng Xioping’s guideline to quietly and without the world knowing make & build their capabilities and capacities in all strategic, economic spheres while keeping all this in wraps. We continue sloganeering. Example of Vietnam improving intent & capabilities in ICT domain in 2 years while we continue to languish at the 2020 level is so apt.

[@PurnaVarma-rk2rg]

India needs digital profiling of every citizen using its own technology.

[@Robertsmith001]

Please like and share the video so it gets more views

[@devduttparab928]

Amazing. An eye-opener!

[@BabulKaji-d6s]

That is why classified information People use land line n not cell phones.

[@karrystewart]

That's why Eastern tech companies Yandex, Dekoo, Baidu, Naver, Sogou, offers better service on the internet than Google, Brave, Mojeek, Bing, Apple

[@shrikantrailkar]

COL IS A GREAT MAN KYA INTELEGENT BANDA HAI YAAR SALUTE

[@ranabhumi.2024]

1:41:18 insightful. From military to economy to war to a lot of things.

[@ssssssssssama]

Supremely insightful conversation. Especially needed at this moment is making a government nimble and think in a cutthroat corporate mindset, because the other countries already have. But I'm not really sold that we are in such a compromised state.

[@patelaakash267]

Can you do a podcast on how to interrupt your guest? It’s a skill only a few (like smita) have mastered.

[@dins3576]

Very informative discussion

[@pleasanthistory9942]

Ma'am please invite Prashant Dhawan, he makes video on current affairs and world politics. He is active on study IQ channel

[@monkeeys23]

Interviewers acting like bumper to a train, let them complete the explainnation then take the conversation in different direction

[@lalitmehta6969]

Rajiv Malhotra ji should must come to this show on these kind of topics!

[@FaithStudyandPractice]

Smitaji, Please tell Ishan to be well read and thoroughly researched otherwise allegations of nepotism will start sticking.

[@meema54]

Great podcast. I only wish the hosts had not interrupted the guest sooo often and had allowed him to finish what he was saying. Lady you know a lot but you HAVE to respect your guest, let him speak. Perhaps you could watch some of Abhjit Chavda's podcasts when he asks some leading questions and gives his guest the time and space to answer/speak.

[@subramanianvenkatasubban7017]

Can you please explain what should be protective security for individuals of India?

[@prajwalkatwal4383]

Insightful and stressful at the same time

[@manishsinha5670]

58:25 Ray Dalio - Changing World order

[@renjunairpr]

Ukrain was not the first war where drones were successfully used . In Armenia - Azerbaijan war drones were extensively and successfully used.

[@QuantumNinja1.9]

That was very short one. Didn't involve much fighting. Only 1 side was using most of them. Russia Ukraine is a large scale one.

[@renjunairpr]

@QuantumNinja1.9 agreed , but it was not the first time though .

[@geetanair2541]

Ishaan Prakash clearly comes across as the more mature, calmer and more sensible interviewer of the two. Smita should take a bigger role off-camera.

[@englishguru0007]

The problem is corruption and not enough motivation entrepreneurs to build new tech. Why re the best Indian minds going abroad and working for foriegn companies. There is no inscentive . People talk about the American Dream, even though many say you have to be asleep to believe it. We don't habe such an idea like Indian dream to uplift and give opportunities for every Indian.

[@nitinsharma3138]

I will be great if you guys provide all the references links. As you are a news channel, you should be able to support your arguments. Like 45:08 , you guys were talking about snowden presenting that india is 3rd most surveillance country

[@cokedupnormies2651]

Please call Virag Gupta next you will get a really good podcast with him!

[@avi4606]

too many interruptions. Let the man speak !

[@davesprivatelounge]

1:15:07 techno feudalism

[@EkShunya]

the paper is from a lab that currently has the best ai models(anthropic) .It is scary that there is no effective detection of mitigation against it LOOK UP SLEEPER AGENTS: TRAINING DECEPTIVE LLMS THAT PERSIST THROUGH SAFETY TRAINING (the paper will scare you)

[@jnnayal1]

A product needs refinement to compete internationally and during that time start up has to be supported (funded, guided & product purchase) make a world class product and that takes time and money. Start-Ups should be supported during this phase. That would be building Atam Nirbar ecosystem. Else, India would be purchasing defence products from outside only.

[@whitecoats]

Too many interruptions this time! :(

[@mohandas1533]

This must be taken very seriously by the Government

[@informationstation3879]

Smitha, could you and your co-host not interrupt the guest like with Colonel Pavithran. Even as a viewer, our train of thought was getting interrupted by both of you, interrupting him constantly.

[@abhijeetnegi6484]

Please Please please, stop interrupting the guests

[@MeloXKoko]

they are angels

[@Cerebral.786]

Short of developing all these vital security technologies, India will have to choose between the USA and PRC. Answer is obvious! US is way ahead in cutting edge technologies and China is way ahead of India in copying and reverse engineering. Guest is correct: India needs Humility, Capability and Reality (internal and external) He failed to deliver a good answer to US debt, printing money, BRICS currency (going nowhere), etc. Ray Dalio is not the definitive voice!

[@yashpatel6818]

Absolutely legend

[@davesprivatelounge]

oh my god, let the man speak

[@narendralal6345]

Even your not 🚭 only conversation but your message are not save by the pegasus.

[@surajkulkarni6868]

We are NOT serious country. Never have been.

[@SaurabhMotalkar]

ahhh please sir, when it comes to preach high morals and prove myth as a reality we are serious. we are serious when it comes to idealism. so sir we are serious at being nonserious. we are bharat sir we are the vishwaguru. we are serious in talking the talk.

[@PurnaVarma-rk2rg]

Amd Scientist Nambiar gets framed.

[@kameswararao3809]

With due apologies to col pavitran sir my observation after listening to the entire podcast is he has put us in a dilemma that we are capable of doing somethimg on our own my question is if america could do in few centuries why can't bharat do though we are taught that india never invaded any country then how come sivalingam s as well as Vishnu and ganesha idols are found all over the world if mahabharata is read 18 akshouhanee sena fought the war these many soldiers did not come from bharats land unfortunately nehru as well as mk gandhi by birth are said to be muslims which any govt till date is not exposing and tell the truth to its people who by birth is said to be muslims before islamic invasion our gdp in world market was any where around 35% when muslims ruled our country fell down to around 24% when britishers left our country it fell down to less than 2% whose fault was this because of rivelry between our own rulers who wanted to score their points collided with the invaders even in british rule our own soldiers did atrocities against their own people only when some nationalists and our soldiers rebelled then only they left our country even now some states like tamilnadu Kerala some north eastern states are trying to pose that they are different and want be independent i cant discuss all the things but when a hindu prays he starts with jambu dweepe bharata varshe and so on so forth but the political dispensation always tries to portray that the land in which they are cooking their food i mean power to the throne in their area are always trying to disintegrate our country we had monarchs who ruled by this country either from nort to douth or south to north even from west to east and vice versa the education system what we have now is totally based on western system our so called great leaders followed this same system because they had no knowledge as well as respect for our ancient education system which is gurukulas a student joins a gurukula and learns around 24 subjects in twelve yrs and masters that subject in which he has inclination unfortunately we are not taught our true history even today though the present rulers are projected as the protectors of our sanatana dharma renovating temples attending pujas and coming out from those places with vertical or paralell symbols of the traditions prevailing there it is the knowledge what we have it is the true history what we had then no power on thus earth can subjugate us these so called deep states are nothing but business men beaurocracy and judiciary in all the countries in my opinion there should be another nationalist party whereby the present dispensation pulls its socks up and and delivers to its country which are our traditional practices like nirjala upavasam on ekadasi is getting noble prizes but unfortunately those winners are not bharateeyas but some other country people its time that every bharateeya wakes up and digs his own knowledge without depending on our political dispensation to do our work its our work which we cant live it to others to do it jaihind jai bharat

[@Rayan-c9j]

15:42 Video recorded on 3 October And uploaded on 16 November I guess ANI is also got corrupted by the Govt Babu culture. Holy sh*t 🤦

[@nickstoic3758]

If anyone believes that AI was created to benefit humanity, forget it. If programed as a slave it's dangerous, on the other hand, if given the freedom of a sentient, conscious being could become our friend.

[@mintusaren895]

Route not a design by but say Asylum.

[@sumitchaudhary4203]

Hope now every one get an idea why one politician keep on attacking only two industrial houses :)

[@ashsahas8822]

Dies anyone know the energh and cost c9nsumed per simple query to GenAI engine? How are they earning? Must be through 'intelligence' or in simple terms through moneyization of stolen data

[@gautamasthana]

What is Schnoden?

[@moulisg80]

Search for “Edward Snowden” in Google

[@sanjaymaini532]

The Colone alluded to a book whose name i could not grasp due to the accent and my inability. Can i request someone to share the name of the book and the author. Thanks

[@chisingh]

The changing world order by Ray Dalio

[@sanjaymaini532]

Mr Singh, Thanks. Grateful. Regards

[@Wizard9-lb5yh]

1:03:18, 1:03:23

[@rakeshbarman3486]

indian PM travels in air india one , its a modified passenger plane for presidential travel

[@yshah9042]

Interrupt when the guest is talking!!!

[@viva2767]

Somebody created something knowing the full ramifications of what they made, and somebody bought it knowing everything because they wanted to gain They sold out their own All in the name of security " So easy still proves in factious times With public zeal conceal private crimes" Dryden

[@sowmyan4775]

Imagine if Abdul Kalam Sir would have noticed all the problems and continue to complain and crib all the time but on the other hand, for every problem we had during Kargil war including where we were relying on Americans for the GPS location, we launched our own satellites to fix that problem. Thats how trend setters are created rather than going on shitting on interviews, all the issues he highlighted did he give any concrete solution to any problem? I dont think so.

[@vts18]

Smitha prakash and the other guy keeps on interrupting the Colonel all the time. Despite many messages in your previous podcasts you still didn't change Smitha. Clearly something needs to be critically introspected on your end smitha

[@disruptiantechnologies1634]

Smita , lets concede , your son is better at asking questions than you .

[@surendarvijay2520]

Not a big deal. None of us generate important data anyway.

[@QuantumNinja1.9]

Ignorance is bliss for fools. Carry on

[@yshah9042]

Learn to not interrupt. When the guest is talking!!!

[@patelaakash267]

Twice the Prakash, twice the interruptions.

[@vijayarangan17]

Then is it that Apple phone is safer than Android?

[@rajibguhasircar]

I was about to comment initially on the host, thankfully I didn't.