February 4 - Mary Boleyn gets married

[@zacharyclark5617]

Mary Boleyn is my double digit great grandmother and frankly I am proud of it.

[@stevewarren4813]

Me too, supposedly. Hi Cousin.

[@zacharyclark5617]

@@stevewarren4813 Hi Cousin.

[@joansmith3296]

Your claim to fame!

[@Glorindellen]

@@stevewarren4813 hello, my cousin!

[@Glorindellen]

@@zacharyclark5617 hello Cousin!

[@Calla-sl8gd]

Hi Claire! Good video, as always. Over the last few days, I've been pulling my hair out trying to "find" Mary Boleyn, and I'm not the historian you are. I can only imagine how frustrating it is for you when your subject is just out of reach. Thanks again for the video!

[@anneboleynfiles]

Yes, she's rather a shadowy figure, perfect for fiction.

[@cindyrobinson3077]

I wish we really knew more about her! I find her fascinating

[@chiaroscuroamore]

How frustrating that we haven’t got any account of what was worn and the decoration of Mary Boleyn’s wedding! I love hearing about the decorations and dress! I can see why many fictional writers use her as a blank canvas. Thank you as always for another great video and I can’t wait to see tomorrow’s video!

[@justanothergoogler6436]

All in all, seems like things worked out well for Mary.

[@darlenefarmer5921]

Thank you.

[@twiley3530]

Nice color on you. Thank you.

[@laurawaldie456]

Love the history of Mary Boleyn. Thanks, Claire. I wonder what the outcome of Tudor history might be had Henry VIII married Mary.

[@susannebemis3311]

she produced a boy. he would have been happy

[@aldijanakasupovic55]

[@danielicascaes]

I am from Brazil and a great Tudor history fan, and I study about it since I was a young lady (14 years so far). It's hard to find good material here on KZbin when I have already learned so many details about the Boleyins, but I have to say that your channel is amazing. Thank you very much for your work. Hope to learn even more about these fascinating characters.

[@joansmith3296]

It seems Henry slept with a cast of thousands. What a horrible position these women at court were in. Once the king decides he's tired of you then what? Marriage to someone you hardly know or become a nun? Awful. Thank God women finally wised up over generations and made their own choices and earned their own livings and cast off these servile roles. Thank you Claire.

[@marionarnott750]

This is why, for all her faults, Queen Anne is such a fascinating character. She didn't go along with the courtly dismissal of a king - she named her terms and she got them. Until the marriage went sour, she was a party to everything that went on. She played for high stakes and did not settle for little. Mary played it safe - she's not half as interesting as. Anne is.

[@anneboleynfiles]

He actually doesn't seem to have had that many mistresses. Bessie Blount did very well out of it, as did Mary Boleyn. But, yes, it's good that things have changed.

[@cherylreed7523]

Wow fancy getting married in the chapel Royal..OMG...& with the King as one of your guests...not bad eh?!...Mary was supposed to have been very happy with William Stafford...wasn't she? 😊

[@anneboleynfiles]

This was William Carey, and we don't know Mary's personal feelings about the match and her marriage, but she married her second husband, William Stafford, for love, secretly, and, yes, she was happy with him.

[@aldijanakasupovic55]

Thanks for adding me on the video i’m gonna share this to Anne

[@Lyndell-P]

🇭🇲🦘 I am going through your 'playlist' on Mary Boleyn (the videos not yet viewed). I'll be interested to see what I find out about Mary. I did find the information in this video, very interesting. Thank you Claire 👑👍

[@lisaa.4667]

I consider Mary a more fortunate woman than her sister Anne. For example, she did not marry Henry VIII.

[@annalisette5897]

I don't think Henry VIII was ever known to have a married mistress? I have also read that he only had relationships with women who agreed, that he did not force his attentions on unwilling women. Some famous men and rulers had affairs with married women so any pregnancies would be covered but I have never seen anything like that even suggested with Henry.

[@nancybeveridgetaylor3256]

Love this!

[@clarkindee]

Thanks, Claire, very good as usual.

[@zero_bs_tolerance8646]

Was it a sumptuous affair at the Chapel Royal or a shotgun wedding? We'll never know. Didn't Mary have a ship named for her? Seems I read that somewhere. Thank you!

[@anneboleynfiles]

I would think that it was quite a lavish affair. There's no mention of any pregnancy and there's no record of Mary having a child until 1524. Actually, no, she didn't. Historian Lauren Mackay has pointed out that the ship was actually called the Mary of Boloyne. That spelling was used for the French port of Boulogne at the time. The ship is listed in a list of captured French ships, along with the Michael of Dieppe, Griffin of Dieppe, Mary of Hornflete (Hornfleur) and others. There’s nothing to link it with Mary Boleyn.

[@sandilou2U]

Do you know what 9 pence would be compared to today? I am curious if it would have been considered a generous gift (which may give a clue to his relationship with Mary. Just the fact that the King attended is interesting).

[@anneboleynfiles]

He actually gave 6 shillings 8 pence (6s. 8d.) and according to the National Archives Currency Converter, which only converts to 2017, that would £173.34. In 1520, that amount of money would have paid the wages of a skilled tradesman for 11 days or bought 3 stones of wool. However, it wasn't enough to buy a horse.

[@sandilou2U]

@@anneboleynfiles Thank you for taking the time to convert this for me (and for correcting the amount. Can you believe I remembered it wrong only 5 minutes later? Ugh!). I suppose it is a good amount but not as generous as I would expect from a King.

[@stevenspam7219]

Wow 500 years ago!

[@edwardjames2658]

Exactly 500 years ago!

[@bibimeow2311]

YES, Claire, I agree with Mary Chavez- royal purple is a great color for you! After reading the well crafted works of Phillipa Gregory, all so absorbing, it is hard not to project the fiction onto the real characters. The fiction ties it all up so fully,--so satisfying , to imagine we know so much but it is, of course, only fiction.

[@janyceimoto8750]

Very interesting lady!

[@wendychavez5348]

That is a beautiful shirt, with the lovely purple collar. I can't tell if the entire shirt is that royal purple or just the collar, though either would be enchanting against your gorgeous face. Not meaning to draw attention from Mary Boleyn or, God forbid, her sister Anne, but I absolutely want to draw attention to your shirt. Surely I am not the first to notice (I've not yet read the other comments). See you tomorrow!

[@anneboleynfiles]

The purple is just a scarf, not part of my jumper. I thought it added a splash of colour. Thank you!

[@maryh4650]

Thank ypo

[@maddiesander4786]

So interesting 🤔 how things works out, did Mary Boleyns kids get to live on court because their dad was close to the king ? Or because they were cousins of the queen 👸?

[@grandmanonnie5]

Henry is not the kings son. He is a Cary! My dad was a Cary and looks like Henry.

[@amyrat151]

Did Henry have affairs with other married women? If he didn't then that is a bit of evidence to suggest that he wasn't with Mary after they were married. Henry was very generous to the people who were loyal to him, as he was cruel to the people who disobeyed him and why would he risk an important relationship with William Carey and deeply insult him for Mary? The more I learn about this situation, it seems that in the grand scheme of their lives Henry and Mary's relationship wasn't very significant for either of them.

[@anneboleynfiles]

No, there's no evidence that he had relationships with married women.

[@amyrat151]

@@anneboleynfiles That's sort of what I thought but I'm no where near as learned as you on the topic. Thank you.

[@sharoncole8249]

💖👑👑💖xx

[@geowynleda4641]

No animals?

[@anneboleynfiles]

Sorry!

[@draganamitrovic4250]

Am I only fool here who think thet king Henry and Mary Boleyn never ever were lovers???

[@anneboleynfiles]

We know they were because Henry VIII admitted to it and he applied for a dispensation so that he could marry Anne.

[@draganamitrovic4250]

@@anneboleynfiles I dont know,first nobody knows period of their romance,second a former lover comes to the wedding and later new queen Anne took former lady love for her lady in waiting...Everything is suspicious to me , everything is politic( expulsion Elizabeth from inheritance series and declaring her bastard) and story about big humiliation family Boleyn after scandal...we will never know the truth...

[@anneboleynfiles]

The king quite probably arranged the match and Carey was one of his men, so there's nothing unusual in the king attending the marriage, except we find it strange because of the king and Mary. Mary was Anne's sister so attended on her at key times, like in Calais, but was not one of her general ladies. With regards to the romance being secret, it was an extramarital affair and out of respect for Catherine, Henry would not have called attention to it. We know more about the Elizabeth Blount affair because she gave the king a living son, and the king was thrilled. What do you mean about Elizabeth? I'm not sure what her removal from the succession has to do with Mary. That was because the king viewed his marriage to Anne as invalid and Elizabeth as illegitimate.

[@draganamitrovic4250]

@@anneboleynfiles Thank you. Mary was declared bastard because incest( Catherine and Arthur) and in same way Elizabeth declared bastard ( Henry and Mary)

[@sandilou2U]

@@draganamitrovic4250 Henry would not have said that Mary was a formal lover unless it was true. His request for dispensation could have been easily denied so, he would not have risked his intent to marry Anne with a false story.

[@darcidecaesaria9071]

That sweating sickness drives me nuts.

[@lizl6232]

Wasn’t that nice of Henry to marry her off

[@anneboleynfiles]

It was actually a very good match.