Another long Tesla trip! Supercharging queues and Autopilot fails...

[@JohnsmithQqqq]

I bought my Tesla because of this channel and the fantastic real world experience. I have had my car now for 5 months and just love it 😊.

[@justgetatesla]

Glad you love your car!🚙

[@Hayles6677]

That’s amazing. I hope you used Ian’s referral code? 😉

[@ObiePaddles]

We use standard, not chill mode. Right foot and good driving gives the same economy result and then you can use all the power if / when you need it.

[@johnbaker5533]

The North East doesn't have many superchargers. Washington, Scotch corner, slower V2s. They have permits in for Newcastle and Durham. Will be very welcome additions around there.

[@stephenmiller6690]

I hope your rules relax soon. FSD is just marvelous. Not perfect but getting better with every update. Earlier this week i drove about 90 miles each way over some low mountains to the coast (Oregon) and back. FSD was active the entire trip both directions. Just one intervention where i took over. Otherwise i just was along for the ride. The car now controls the speed for conditions and traffic. It makes such drives so relaxing and enjoyable. I feel it makes me safer. It's watching 360 degrees all the time backing up my observations. Oh, forgot - i like my silver model y.

[@patricaomas8750]

So you only had one intervention that would scare me. You call it FSD, having to be continually observing, and vigilant with something is not FSD more like the co-passenger with a learner if that's your thing ok. I would find it nerve-racking.

[@theguy9067]

@@patricaomas8750 required intervention Vs impatience intervention

[@AdamDadeby]

It's good to be hearing about the prospective change in regs in the UK/rest of the world that will allow us to have the same autopilot as the North Americans. My understanding is that it may happen next year. There is a Dutch YTer, whose name I've forgotten now, who has posted info on this. It is frustrating watching all of these videos from the US showing how capable FSD beta is!

[@andrewbarrett9277]

Another great video Ian keep them coming 👍😁

[@Jonathantuba]

The new Ultra Red is stunning. That would be my choice

[@sarikajain1606]

Red looks gorgeous. Love from India. Hopefully Tesla should start deliveries here this year

[@justgetatesla]

And you are getting a Gigafactory! A revolution is coming!!!

[@andrewclark6711]

I have a model y LR in Midnight Silver - Looks great but shows up the scratches - I would get a White one next 😂

[@ssnow952]

I think you will get one in red because you liked the red model 3 you test drove!

[@jaxgeorge3088]

Washington is my local supercharger station, it needs at least another 8 chargers and upgrading from the 150kw. Nearly always a queue and slow charging. It really isn’t good enough as there aren’t any other superchargers for about another 40 miles south or 60 miles north. Considering it has Newcastle, Sunderland, Durham and all the other local towns to serve. 8 chargers isn’t enough.

[@robf5684]

I charged at Adderstone this week and last. All six chargers fully working again, and protected by concrete barriers from lorries. Couldn't tell whether your sojourn to Richer Sounds resulted in a new TV or a new monitor. Hope you enjoy whichever it is!

[@justgetatesla]

TV for mother. Didn’t make the edit as didn’t add anything

[@llwepennful]

Ah yes! Washington. I know that charger well. I drive up from Nottingham > Newcastle and unfortunately Scotch Corner is too soon and Washington is just a bit too far from the city. Scotch Corner is always busy, not great speeds - wish there was a Supercharger just a bit closer to Newcastle city.

[@craigmck7271]

I do Nottingham up to Dundee, The car can get to Adderstone, I can't. Had to pop into Washington services for a human splash and dash, was upset that I can't go as far as one of those rubbish range EV's 🤣 I would do a lot to bypass both Washington and Scotch Corner, too busy and slow.

[@neilfennell6833]

Red does look good but apparently a nightmare to repair any scratches. Black will show loads of swirling eventually. So that leaves grey (nice) or blue (also nice). I would go for grey personally, but then I’m not buying a Tesla any time soon.

[@mac1324]

Thanks for the info on Autopilot, I was just leaving Edinburgh when you drove in after just ordering my first EV the Model 3, in white 😂. Had no idea on the Autopilot limitations so found your Vlog invaluable, possibly life saving cheers

[@johnnyboy7459]

@mac1324. I hope you don’t mind me asking but would you be willing to share your experience when you ordered your new car. Thank you.

[@mac1324]

Happy to, not sure how though in this forum, if OK with “Just Get a Tesla” will write review in this chat window?

[@johnnyboy7459]

@mac1324.Please don’t go to any trouble. I just wondered if your experience was straight forward.

[@mac1324]

It was very straight forward, and I had contact with the Edinburgh and Glasgow Tesla team all the way through and to be honest they took all the stress away. For me, in my early 60’s, having bought a number of cars over the years this was the simplest and probably the most satisfying car purchase I have ever made. Hope that helps.

[@johnnyboy7459]

@mac1324. Thanks for that. All my car purchases have been at dealerships mostly Subaru. I’m in my 70s so change is not so easy. Hope you enjoy driving your EV as much as I enjoy my old. Good luck

[@FastLaneJB]

I believe if you adjust the maximum charge limit while charging on a trip, the time until you can continue your journey switches to be how long until it hits that new charge limit. If you don't change it or do it before hand, it's fine. At least this is what I believe does that but not often I change it either but do for same reason you mentioned where car is charging too fast and might get idle fees.

[@michaelhutcheson5897]

I have the current red and love it. I can see you in a red.

[@richardwomersley9761]

Re the 20 min extra charging situation. we had the same situation last weekend. Cancelled and reset the trip, and it sorted itself out.

[@lucdelouw9226]

I bought a model y quicksilver and i love it

[@mrexcet]

Great video again. Good you are showing that sometimes even Tesla can make some odd calculations when charging. Happened to me once too. It told me to continue charging 30 minutes even if I had more than enough to drive home. I switched from percentage to milage on the battery symbol and saw that I had more than enough milage to come back home so I disconnected. When arriving home it was far from empty. Regarding autopilot I had some problems on regular B roads that we have a lot of in Sweden. When meeting trucks especially in right hand turns the car panic brakes because it obviously thinks I'm going to ram the truck. It's just a short brake but it's really harsh and unpleasant. My Volvo did autopilot a lot better in those situations. A trick I tried is when meeting trucks in right hand turns is to keep the foot on accelerator pedal ever so slightly to show the car it's okej to go on. And that gives much fewer unpleasant brakings. So it seems your observation that autopilot in all forms are made especially for US roads and conditions seems to be right. Think our European roads is so far a little bit to tricky for our beloved Teslas. I'm hopeful they will figure it out for us eventually as they did with Matrix lights that are working like a charm.

[@Hayles6677]

Midnight cherry red of course 🍒 it’s even better than the ultra red if that’s possible.

[@justgetatesla]

Is it? There’s some debate though tbh I would need them side by side

[@Hayles6677]

@@justgetatesla so would I but Ive always liked the darker red colours. Wouldn’t be upset to get either of them. Can’t wait to see the Juniper Y though

[@heythave]

@@justgetateslaIt looks very nice in person.

[@PeterWroblewski-xv9br]

Hi Ian, new to your channel, love the content! Did you get your question answered wrt/ why the car was saying you need to charge longer? If not, I think I have the answer

[@tdtesla]

You will get the Ultra Red Ian - like I did - because it's just gorgeous ❤ Enjoying your content, thanks - just followed you on X too 👍

[@ObiePaddles]

In about 4 years you will do a charging video and all the cars will be red not white!

[@edwyncorteen1527]

My Y is MSM, very happy with the colour, it does not show up how dirty it is!

[@greghudson9717]

Like you, I have a white Tesla Model Y. My next Tesla (Model Q/2) will be Ultra Red (now available in Australia for the Model 3 and Y) as of 1 Apr 24. That is my suggested colour for you too Ian. Regards, Greg.

[@martinmoran8200]

Get a blue one Ian lovely looking vehicle

[@jaroslavsplichal97]

Hi, Thanks for another awesome video. Btw It seems like Tesla will always notify you, that you can continue the trip with 5% buffer. Once that is met, it will be saying the time left to the target charging limit.

[@ShaiTed]

I use that supercharger all the time, it is always mega busy taxis.

[@grahamleiper1538]

Washington has a reputation for having a lot of taxi/Uber drivers. Not a massive amount of other superchargers in the area. I'd have left earlier and headed to Adderstone. There are concrete barriers at Adderstone now to hopefully stop lorries backing into the chargers.

[@justgetatesla]

Ooh that’s good to know!

[@paulmeynell8866]

Cool video , never realised steering was limited. My friend has a tesla and can’t wait until fsd hits the uk! Currently watching all the lucky people with V12.3.3 The free trial is a genius idea from tesla . Loads of people will find out what fsd is really like , millions of extra miles of video will be collected and you can see the reality of what happens when people get fsd for the first time ( will they all just crash !😂)

[@justgetatesla]

I spoof the Robo Taxi experience in the UK in this week’s video… 😂

[@milohobo9186]

I like white to reflect more of the heat from the car, but I live in a sweltering place with too much sun, too much humidity, and too much ambient heat.

[@jamesfahy2935]

Maybe increasing the limit to 90% made the Tesla think you wanted to charge to 90% regardless of what was needed for your trip.

[@heythave]

You should get black or grey for your next Tesla because it would be free and darker colors absorb more heat in mostly cold England.

[@PeterWroblewski-xv9br]

There are two ways I can think of why the computer would tell you to charge longer than you need to: - no trip / destination is planned / entered - a message "you have enough charge to continue your trip" was dismissed In either case, the computer will go "I'm being told to charge up to X%, and that will take Y more minutes" If no route was planned, you as the driver may know "I have enough electrons in the tank to make this trip", but all the computer knows is "I need Y minutes to get to X%"; if a next waypoint was entered, the computer will calculate how long it needs to charge to get there, and will display "you have enough charge to continue your trip" message; if that message is dismissed, the computer will think "I'm being overridden, the hoomin behind the wheel wants to charge longer" and once more falls back to "need Y minutes for X% SoC (state of charge) I was told to charge up to" Disclaimer: I am in North America, I had no idea about restrictions on FSD outside of NA, this may be another place where the software I know of behaves differently than yours

[@justgetatesla]

Entirely differently. US / Canada have pretty much unique regulations.

[@PeterWroblewski-xv9br]

​@@justgetatesla"the more you know" Is trip planning an area where the software stacks behave comparably for you, then? Curious to compare notes

[@justgetatesla]

Trip planning is usually flawless. I trust it entirely. So when it goes a little crazy and adds lots more power we don’t need, I am surprised!

[@slowercuber7767]

beautiful countryside but then it's pretty over here on the other side of the pond, too. Sorry about the government gumming up the works. Here in the states I have had the opposite problem on tight turns, with the Tesla holding too high a speed through them (in one case around a limited visibility turn, a Tesla I am familiar with has in the past failed to turn enough to stay fully in its lane when traveling modestly in excess of the speed limit in AutoPilot (autosteer+tacc)). While using V12.3.2.1 FSD my Tesla is holding its lane on tight turns just fine (excepting for it tending to enter the turn a little too aggressively, and actually breaking a little going into the turn). Regardless, I have found that I can't use AutoSpeed without risking an expensive chat with the local constabulary, but even with that turned off, and the speed limit dialed in by road signs and my thumb, the car still accelerates harder than I'd like and travels a little fast around turns, even with the driving mode and FSD both set to CHILL mode.

[@justgetatesla]

It’s not really our government. Markets work better when there are rules - yours imposes things like side indicator repeaters and previously weird bumper and headlight rules. To sell into the market the product has to be compliant. These are global regulations- I disagree with the specifics but agree with the principle.

[@Jaw0lf]

I have just got my White Tesla model 3. Fantastic efficiency on my 100 mile trip home 198wh/mile!

[@justgetatesla]

Spectacular!!!

[@TheVorst]

Yes I have the new Model 3 Real Wheel Drive since 2 to 3 weeks. And Yes have similar results for a total of 1600 km/1000miles. A mix of freeway, traffic jams and normal roads. I had before the previous Model 3 Long Range (about 5 years old). It was about 35% less efficient, so far I can see. It means I have about the same range with the previous Long Range, which has a had a 75KW battery vs the RWD 60KW battery !!!

[@justgetatesla]

I think people look at the “new” Model 3 and think it’s just a facelift. Under the skin the way the car is constructed is completely different to the early models, and battery and motor have evolved too. Not surprised it’s more efficient!

[@DerekDavis213]

In Los Angeles, queues are a real thing. And quite common.

[@johnnyboy7459]

Another interesting video looking at real situations. I find I can increase my range by switching of regen whilst driving on open roads etc which allows me to coast as you put it. I looked at Tesla away back but ordering a car on line was out of my comfort zone. Tesla Edinburgh is only a 30 minute drive so that could be a possibility . The route planning and charging network is something that would make me do longer journeys with more confidence . Ive had various colours if cars in the past but I find White is the easiest to keep.

[@justgetatesla]

What did you buy?

[@johnnyboy7459]

@justgetatesla I have a Subaru Solterra. I’ve had the car for 16 months and it has been faultless. Since then a lot more choice has came to market and I’ve learned a lot since then.

[@gordonmcmillan4709]

I have no problem with the colours, but I think the blacked-out trim ( and probably the wheels on the refreshed Y ) just don't match any body colour other than white or black.

[@alankelly1542]

I never realised that you can coast in a Tesla. I’ve never heard or seen anyone mention coasting in any other videos. Interesting. Thanku

[@justgetatesla]

2 ways - balance the throttle, or go into Neutral

[@alankelly1542]

@@justgetatesla Thanku sir. In my mind I was thinking it wasn’t a good idea to knock it into neutral.

[@grahamleiper1538]

@@justgetatesla if your Tesla is old enough you can choose low regen. (Done anyway to force more use of the brakes in winter).

[@justgetatesla]

It’s fine. The manual even describes how to do it if in autopilot

[@alankelly1542]

@@justgetatesla very helpful sir. I really appreciate your input. Thank you 🤩

[@karla6999]

Hi there, I got me the white one too, also because partly it is the „free“ colour and because none of the optional colours we get from Berlin is worth the additional cost to me. Black, no never Blue, I just don‘t like MidnightCherryRed, no not really too dark Quicksilver, no, definately not for €3200. As far as I know you get the car from Shanghai and they have a great, brilliant red, I would have taken that and I think that‘s your choice too. Anyway, enjoy your white one, just as I will!

[@craigmck7271]

Shanghai > UK are now the updated colours, same as Berlin

[@greghudson9717]

You can also increase the efficiency of your driving my increasing the tyre pressure to 45psi or even more, but it makes the ride even harsher. If you look at Ian's tyre pressures @ 8m 10s you will see he has 1 @43psi, 2 @ 44, and 1 @45. My guess is he's forgotten to pump them up recently. Ian, over to you...

[@justgetatesla]

They’re all pumped! One psi difference won’t matter. Remember that it’s 42psi when cold. The psi increases when driven. They haven’t all increased at quite the same rate

[@karlwest437]

In a previous video you advised using the charge level display at the top rather than the range display, because the range is inaccurate, maybe it was still using that inaccurate range when it said you needed to wait another 20 minutes?

[@justgetatesla]

Possibly! Though it isn’t normal behaviour- I wouldn’t have called it out otherwise. Maybe the latest software update?

[@simonrichardson3167]

Red, I have the current red one its a fabulous colour in the sunlight, and the new red colour looks better still. Ive heard the black (non metallic?) chips / marks easily like most black cars, blue is a bit boring, and grey, hmm maybe , white everywhere, red all the way!!

[@solentbum]

My last eight cars have been Red, Yellow, Blue, Dark Red, Metallic Blue, Purple, Pale Green and Bright Red. At no extra cost. What ever car you drive , nobody cares what colour it is. And as you drive it you can't even see what colour it is. I suggest that most Tesla drivers selected White as it was 'free'.

[@justgetatesla]

Probably true! I happen to like pearl white. But won’t do it agaib

[@solentbum]

@@justgetatesla White is the one colour I would never buy, together with Black, they always look dirty. The best colour I have ever owned was a Metallic Bronze Volvo. It never looked dirty.

[@DerekDavis213]

9:55 He says car is effortless to drive. Of course that is true, on a super easy 2 lane road, with clear lane lines, and few other cars on the road. 11:12 Autopilot crosses lane line into potential *opposing* *traffic* . Not good.

[@justgetatesla]

It’s effortless to drive on motorways and dual carriageways. Outside of those autopilot is a pain in the arse. But as it isn’t capable of doing those roads - and the manual tells you that - I’m not trying to sell you a “Tesla are rubbish” position. More to educate people who don’t think they’re rubbish about the UNECE limitations. I’ve had autosteer on several cars and none can do this kind of road. It’s a regulatory problem, not a Tesla problem

[@thayne559]

#TeamWhite! I got white because is the best color in central CA. It gets way too hot here for darker colors and its the only multicoat pearl paint they offer.

[@paulhumphries3795]

For Model Y mk2, won’t the SNP insist on white with a blue cross..🤪🤪😂😂

[@keithdenton8386]

Why White? Cheaper, safer, easier to keep clean. or looking clean, and cheaper to repair a small scratch. Red is three layer and is much more expensive to touch up. I like the red and the blue. My next one will be white unless I get blue or red. I had a black model 3 and it was a nightmare to keep clean and looking good. The white does not look too bad when its dirty.

[@patricaomas8750]

let's face nothing is free in business. The White is included in the cost other colours they jack on even more cost, thank you.

[@frankgraham4939]

I sincerely hope you dashed over to the hotel reception to enter your Reg plate, £100 fine otherwise!

[@justgetatesla]

I did. The car tells you to do so as well

[@AdrianHilder]

You will get deep blue because it's an actual colour and not double the price like red.

[@robertofalkoni8544]

Huh, what happens to American Tesla's autopilot when it's in Europe? And vice versa? Thx for the video 👍

[@justgetatesla]

European “Full Self Driving” is nothing of the sort. Sadly

[@Bfranklyn731]

I'm a michigan man. Go blue!!!

[@john_hind]

Probably should clarify: Edinburgh is surrounded by _extinct_ literal volcanos!

[@justgetatesla]

Well, extinct for now…

[@PhilT993]

On the last charging stop, the car knows you are going home. Perhaps Tesla would rather you spend extra time (money) at the Supercharger than you need to, rather than recharge at home. Just a guess 🙂

[@justgetatesla]

In my case it doesn’t make them any more money if I charge there longer…

[@shanedavis9166]

Hi Ian. I notice you've replaced the aero covers. Any particular reason?

[@justgetatesla]

I put them back on through the winter. They came back off again last weekend! And then we had snow this morning…

[@shanedavis9166]

Your fault then 😛

[@PabloTBrave]

Tesla should change the free colour every year imo. I believe they have cahnged it before ad black was the original free colour i think .

[@heythave]

They are. As of today, the free color is grey.

[@Jarptchow85]

Cherry red is so sexy... I would have taken it if it was possible for my model 3 highland.

[@deadelvis68]

And if you fall asleep on autopilot ?

[@justgetatesla]

It switched off and stops the car

[@colinnich]

I've currently got a Model 3 hire car in Spain, and the autosteer limit can't handle corners on motorways without leaving the lane - the unelected EU bureaucrats should have come here before making stupid rules.

[@justgetatesla]

What does it have to do with the EU?

[@bobuk5722]

Red.

[@pixie706]

I find it amusing that your car knows better than you. That does seem futuristic and maybe a bit worrying 😅

[@alasdairfinlayson]

I'll pass.

[@stevenbarrett7648]

Re easing your right foot also bear in mind if you speed and have an accident the other party will be covered 3rd party but you may not be able to claim for the damage to your vehicle as you were in effect driving in an illegal manner, so speed in your £50+ plus car, have an accident and you now own £50k’s worth of junk ! Did it say you needed to wait longer as you had slid the charging range up to 90% ?. Also we are not part of the EU so we can make our own Laws regarding FSD !

[@justgetatesla]

1. How am I driving illegally by moderating my speed? 2. What does the UNECE (United Nations) have to do with the EU 3. Do you think that Brexit means we make the rules? We are a small market. We take other peoples rules because we aren’t relevant enough for manufacturers elsewhere to bother faffing with us if we diverge. Which is why we dropped UKCA and went back to CE

[@stevenbarrett7648]

@@justgetatesla wow someone got out of the wrong side of bed today !. My comment about speeding came from another forum where someone’s insurance claim has been refused due to their speed at the time of the accident, 34 in a 30 zone the 3rd party got paid out but speeder didn’t ending up with a 2 year old top of the range Range Rover to repair from his own pocket. So you are saying the United Nations decide if we can have FSD here in the UK ?, new one on me. Leaving Europe didn’t affect the US designed, Chinese manufactured cars ability to accept the FSD program but our Country rules affect its ability to be used, nothing to do with Brussels or the UN or anywhere else but here. The size of the UK isn’t a factor, neither was Brexit, we managed fine without foreigners designing our rules and regulations for hundreds of year before the common market / eu rocked up and being old enough I remember when we rules ourselves without interference from Brussels. We don’t need a nanny thank you.

[@justgetatesla]

I agree with you on the speed front - don’t speed! On the international regulations thing, we follow the international rules on cars because it’s good for our car industry. If we decided to do our own thing and impose a rule the others don’t have just to be different to Europe, they just won’t bother. Again, we tried to ditch CE because it’s EU, did UKCA which cost a fortune, then went back to CE. We are too small a market so we comply with the global standard which is UNECE. As do Japan and Australia as examples.

[@BSJWright]

From what I understand, UN ECE is a United Nations regulation. This means that the US should be compliant with that too. I'm not sure why the US cars are operating differently because they should be following the same regs. Absolutely agree though, the laws need changing (don't get me started). I got this from a chap that has a YT channel in Belgium, Steven Peeters, he seems to know the EU rules inside out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZaqaZedlJaKoq8

[@justgetatesla]

Thanks for the link!

[@robf5684]

UNECE stands for United Nations Economic Commission for Europe. US not in Europe so is not covered by any UNECE regs. UNECE is not part of the EU either, which is why the UK is still following the regs even after Brexit.

[@BSJWright]

@@robf5684 ah I see, thank you

[@justgetatesla]

Whilst the first E is Europe, it is now the global standard. Used across the world with US and Canada major exceptions. Will feature in next weekend video

[@robf5684]

@justgetatesla Second E surely?! But I never knew that it was more global, so look forward to the episode to find out more. (I'd always assumed, that there was probably an UNECx for each continent.)

[@BillBadMule123]

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