Answering the Top 20 Bible Questions (w/ Andrew Farley)

[@victoria9663]

Thank you for having Dr Farley on here. His presentation of the gospel led me to Christ almost a decade ago. I haven't heard him speak in a long time but i loved this. He's great!

[@jacqueslemieux3328]

I'm so glad Sean that you invited Andrew Farley to participate in these 20 questions. He's my favourite Grace teacher! Thank you! ♥

[@dfkuz]

It's a bit disturbing that a theologian would apply things said to a specific people living during prophecy according to the Law of Moses or the Acts 15 ordinances to us, the people that were never allowed to be saved until things went south for the first people and were told not to put ourselves under the law but be saved according to the mystery and to gratefully accept a free gift (Ephesians 2 8 & 9) with absolutely no laws at all! Those two things are different!

[@SandnSea23]

I’ve been a Christian for 50 + plus years (primarily within fundamentalism). A month ago in my devotional time I felt a shift in my spirit. I prayed to wrap up my time and spontaneously started speaking from the overflow of my spirit in tongues. I practically couldn’t stop if I tried (but I did😉) for about 2 weeks. It’s been an incredible blessing to me and the few others I’ve shared with in prayer. I’m not called to the mission field and it’s absolutely of the Holy Spirit and I’m praying continually in the spirit and my spirit is edified by it. So, I’m going to differ from Dr. Farley on this one.

[@GWOT_]

God's grace is beautiful

[@marisamonti4448]

Thank you both, let the Lord bless you, greetings from Slovenia.

[@TruthAboveAll08]

Welcome 🙏

[@Disciple793]

Thanki you Sean for inviting Dr. Farley on your podcast. This man's theology is solid as a rock. God Bless!

[@Rhonda_Maldonado_61824]

This was such a great episode!!!! Thank you for having Andrew on your show, Sean. Can't wait to see him back on. ✝️🙏🏻

[@wtillett243]

I hope you’re right about baptism, because if you’re not, and what Jesus said still counts, a lot of people are in trouble. Why not just preach faith repentance and baptism like the Bible teaches.

[@unclepauliestl]

Love Sean and love listening to Dr Andrew Farley as well. Awesome chat Sean. Was surprised and happy to see you have Andrew on. Blessings.

[@Bvoorhis03]

I’ve like Farley for years and been a recent follower of Sean, cool collaboration

[@lcraver4797]

Great session - hope you do it again 6-12 months from now. As for baptism, I always thought of it not as part of my salvation but an act of obedience to my maker. Because baptism >IS< a command to the believer. I do not judge anyone who baptises children because again - it's an act of obedience - it doesn't get me into heaven but Christians are supposed to obey their Lord and baptism is part of that.

[@gracearmor]

This man is speaking straight FACTS 🔥 💯

[@e.m.8094]

"The cross worked." Love that.

[@mrquinanola]

This is a great interview!

[@gailwells9309]

True grace spoken in this interview

[@ccelms6581]

I love this Dr. Farley guy! I am THOROUGHLY impressed! I need to find more of his stuff!

[@SeanMcDowell]

Do it!

[@justajo2]

Absolutely loving this! Thank you, Dr. Farley. God bless you.

[@dosisdedoctrina]

If you look at Rom 6, Titus 3:5, etc. wouldn't it be reasonable to think that Paul didn't see baptism as a work of law but an act of faith?

[@janinedelport5532]

When I was younger I lost a friend to suicide, and as a Catholic teenager it bothered me that my friend had gone to hell. It was our CATHOLIC priest who comforted me and assured me that my friend HAD NOT gone to hell. It was him who explained that God is not going to punish someone because of an illness (like bipolar for example) or a state of mind that inhibits an individual of seeing problems and the world in an inaccurate way, e.g. what is a seemingly "small" problem to people in general, is a MASSIVE problem to them. God wouldn't punish my friend anymore than God would punish someone who died of cancer. So not all Catholics (including priests) hold to the belief of suicide victims being condemned to hell. I hope this especially brings comfort to those still within the Catholic faith ❤️

[@Bullcutter]

The idea of hell and an angry God often pumped out by Christian cults and fundamentalists, is a very American concept.

[@MegUSN52]

I am so glad you posted this. I have BPD and C-PTSD from a horrible and traumatic childhood spent in not-so-great birth, foster, and adoptive homes. The "system" horribly failed my siblings and me in the 1970's. I have struggled with mental illness most of my life, and I have continually felt like I have failed and that I'm going to go straight to Hell for my thoughts, hardened heart, etc. I KNOW what God's Word says. I know my identity is in Him and not in mental health diagnosis and not in my past. I know I have to continually take my thoughts captive. But it's a constant struggle of not feeling good enough. And I came from a strict So. Baptist upbringing, so that also doesn't help. Recently, I've been going to an Anglican Church that is more in-between Catholicism and Protestant, and it's been so helpful to me. Still, I'm having to rid myself of all the bad teaching and twisting of scriptures I received in the Baptist tradition. (I read the Bible for myself, and I pray.)

[@dfkuz]

The sacrifice on the cross and the glorious resurrection of Jesus Christ abolished hell once and for all. God has no interest in punishing anyone for sins/crimes that his Son already paid for! What he does do, though, is respect our free will and those that reject the gift of eternal life through his Son, Jesus Christ, will be left in their graves and not raised to everlasting life in his Son;s kingdom.

[@janinedelport5532]

@@MegUSN52 my heart absolutely goes out to you and I can truly empathise ❤️ While my own circumstances are a bit different, I had Post Natal depression with both My Children (very severe with my first one), I also have C-PTSD from childhood trauma and an abusive marriage which I'm now out of and was diagnosed with type 2 Bipolar 13 years ago (this is going to be reviewed - long story), Anxiety and OCD. So I experienced being suicidal and that opened my eyes. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but I also know that people who haven't been there are quick to talk and condemn. I have been there from it caused as a result of my mental health AND from evil (satan works through people and sometimes a direct approach). They are VERY different experiences, so I just don't pay attention to what people have to say. We need to focus on God and He knows our struggles and the enemy will sometimes use our trauma and even ourselves against us. God also understands when we have difficulty focusing on Him instead of our struggles and it doesn't upset Him. He loves us as we are and He will never abandon us. I have found that even when it "feels" like He isn't there, He still is and we can't reply on the "feeling" - we just have to trust Him and have faith. We are sometimes our harshest, cruelest, meanest person to ourselves. Know that you are loved and stop listening to people who say everything is satan and/or you're not being healed because you "don't have enough faith" or because you have done something to make God cross with you. God is not punishing us. I will say that God gives us the strength. When I felt (sometimes still feel), that I don't have anymore to give, I focus on and say the following verses: Philippians 4:13 2 Timothy 1:7 Proverbs 3:5 Romans 5:3-5 Jeremiah 29:11 These are just some of the verses that helped me through some of the toughest moments and God will show you more and sometimes He'll just bring verses to mind. I've also learnt to not try and understand Him because I'll break brain cells trying. So then I recall 2 Corinthians 5:7 I will pray for you and know that you are loved. I'm really proud of you for not giving up ❤️ God Bless and much love

[@MegUSN52]

Thank you for your response. I am a Christian and believe in Jesus as my Lord and Savior. I'm just being honest that my thoughts are still a struggle. I must stay in God's Word, or they will take over. I have been told that because I have BPD, I'm one of the worst, that I'm evil/sinister, one of the hardest to deal with in therapy because of my BPD, demon-possessed, can't be a Christian, etc. No one who has a mental illness asked to have a mental illness. It is often because of events beyond our control...man's free will. I have tendencies that the average person does not have to deal with in their relationship with God. And I do know what the scriptures state, but I tend to focus on the scriptures that deal with judgment, punishment...fire, and brimstone (that's my Baptist upbringing, really). This is why I'm learning to focus more on the scriptures reflecting God's love, mercy, grace, and forgiveness. Getting out of the Baptist and non-denominational "denominations" has also helped me. I have to also watch what KZbin videos I watch as well because so many self-professing Christian KZbinrs have made their channels about calling out other Christians as false prophets, in-fighting between denominations, end time prophecies (Jesus Himself has said He does not know when He will return in Mark 13:32). I think these are more hurtful to an unbelieving world than helpful.

[@BasilGramma]

bring Andrew back! What an amazing episode!! 🎉

[@christiandad5920]

Thanks for doing this Sean and Andrew. I really needed to be reminded of these truths.

[@ericramirez303]

Beautiful straight forward biblical facts! Thank you

[@dosisdedoctrina]

I don't like this guy saying people who disagree with him are just doing "crazy talk". Couldn't they have biblical reasoning? Arrogance is not a Christian virtue. He can be firm in his convictions without being insulting.

[@reganoryan2292]

Be a man and gird up your loins!! Don't sweat the small stuff

[@TruthAboveAll08]

There were several people (and a couple TROLLS) in the Live Chat, some with very legitimate, searching questions. I hope they will come to THIS chat to discuss! Great session, Sean! Look forward to more of this. I just wish we could access a transcript of the Live Chat. Those Trolls make things difficult.

[@Bvoorhis03]

I love both of u guys, happy to see a colab

[@e.m.8094]

I'll have to disagree with the "once saved, always saved" take here. The book of Hebrews and many of Paul's epistles lead me to believe otherwise. I can't imagine someone completely denying the faith stating they want nothing to do with God anymore and then the Lord dragging them to heaven kicking and screaming.

[@scapps8173]

I was confused on that too. If I am saved then turn around and start living against God and don't repent why am I still saved?

[@juliemorris530]

Faith must be a present condition of my heart and soul, not just faith I once had. Only I can take me out of the grace of God, no other force can separate me from God's gift of salvation. There seems to be few beliefs more blinding with bias towards the simple Truth than those rooted in Calvinism.

[@laylamotaung7128]

I believe in Once Saved Always Saved. God gives us Eternal Life through Christ, it cannot be eternal if it comes to an end. He seals us with his Spirit who is the Spirit of promise when we believe. Is the Holy Spirit now entering and exiting us ?..I don't think so buddy. Jesus wants us to be secure in our salvation not wondering whether we can mess this up. I think we give ourselves too much credit sometimes. God is good and God loves us. IT IS ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED. AMEN

[@e.m.8094]

@@laylamotaung7128 So no matter how badly people want to leave the faith and renounce God, He's going to drag them kicking and screaming to heaven to worship Him forever? Gotcha.

[@laylamotaung7128]

@e.m.8094 no, my argument is that someone who once genuinely put their faith in God has had a supernatural experience with God himself and has been made into a new man. The Old self is done away with. So if ever someone wants to leave Christ, it means they never were part of us. Get me ?

[@jaredwells465]

CofC background here. I am sure many are familiar with that view of baptism. I have really puzzled it out over the last few years and have come to this conclusion: It will never be reconcilable in my heart to say that something so clearly evidenced in the NT writings is not "necessary". I think the baptism debate has gone far afield of what should be viewed as necessary which is the humbling of ourselves, in the image of our Savior and Lord, in obedience to the Creator Yahweh. If we are truly coming to our King, to set him in the throne of our lives to be the best of what he intended for humanity, we want to do everything in our power to submit to his benevolent lordship of our lives. Baptism is only part of that equation.

[@dfkuz]

The validity of water baptism is the very least of your problems! I began my Protestant Christian life in the Church of Christ because the pastor was a friend of mine as he often came to the Italian restaurant where I worked as a waiter. I was immersed in water and my sons were too but in my heart I knew I was already saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and that I was indwelt by the Holy Spirit. So the water baptism was pretty meaningless, but when I grew in my knowledge of the faith and realized that CofC churches teach that you can lose your salvation (pretty easily in fact) which would necessitate being immersed again if you wanted the Holy Spirit back. But that is not biblical because water baptism has nothing to do with believers today; it was a part of the Levitical Law that was only given to the chosen people to obey, never to pagan Gentiles (which today everyone is because there are no more Jews, Colossians 3:11). We receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit when we let God know that we are trusting his Son and his work at Calvary for our eternal salvation, and the Holy Spirit is our seal and our guarantee of that salvation and that seal is virtually unbreakable, Ephesians 4:30 KJV! If you don't believe that the Holy Spirit is able to keep you eternally secure and saved, you are not yet saved at all! We must trust Jesus Christ to the uttermost, keeping none of the responsibility for our salvation in ourselves! I hope you will pray about this because I want to see you in Christ's kingdom!

[@arcticfox2639]

@@dfkuz Yes, I experienced almost exactly that. I was raised CoC, but realized later that I was actually not saved and neither were my siblings. I had to fervently study to understand why. They do not teach the gospel and they teach heresy regarding the indwelling Holy Spirit. Water baptism is a command, but it is symbolic and is not the gospel! I could not stay in that denomination, although I had many loved ones there when I left. My siblings just ditched the whole spiritual scene, which is very sad. Many CoCs are actually Cults.

[@dfkuz]

@@arcticfox2639 I am so happy to know that you escaped that works salvation system/cult too! It's all about controlling people with fear and guilt so they come back week after week and fill the collection plate! They even make their members feel guilty if they skip Bible study for some reason! I agree that the other members in the church are just wonderful but I hope for their sake they run from that cult as fast as they can! I was told by another former member of the CoC that stopped attending and joined a Baptist church that when she ran into one of the assistant pastors of her old church, he cut her dead and pretended not to recognize her. How godly is that?

[@shawnbrown5174]

​@@dfkuz the centurion guard and his family was baptized. The Ethiopian eunuch was baptized. Paul baptized all kinds of people who weren't Jewish. (Timothy and Titus) As well as many Greek women. Where does Jesus say you don't need baptism? I believe his final command is to baptize those who convert in his name. Maybe I missed something.

[@dfkuz]

@@shawnbrown5174 Thanks for your reply! You are so right about all the water baptism that was going on in the gospel era and then in the Acts Period! Water baptism was necessary for the Jewish believers especially because it was an outward sign that they were born again by the water and the Spirit, which only applied to the chosen people as they were the only people whose ancestors had been baptized by God when he led them through the Red Sea in the Exodus. That particular cleansing ritual did not apply to the Greeks in the same way as they had not had a previous relationship with God like the Jews had had, but they too were required to be water baptized as an outward sign that they believed Jesus was the Messiah and they had their sins washed away to begin a new life in Christ. Everyone that was water baptized was either Jewish or Greek - like Timothy (Jewish, Paul circumcised him himself) and Titus (Greek); but there were no pagan Gentiles (Gentiles like everyone is today that are not required to obey the Acts 15 ordinances like the Greeks were doing), and truth be told, no regular, non-Greek Gentiles were even allowed to hear the gospel during the Acts Period. It wasn't until Acts ended without the nation of Judah receiving their kingdom or their Messiah back from heaven due to lack of belief in Jesus as the Messiah. God divorced the nation of Judah in Acts 28:28-31 KJV just as he had divorced the nation of Israel back in the Old Testament (Jeremiah 3:8 KJV); and to me anyway, those divorces seem to be the permanent kind with no hope of reconciliation. Paul never reiterates their promises and prophecies after Acts ends. When God divorced both of his ex-wives whom he had loved, he could have just destroyed the world and called it a day, but instead, he acted on a secret he had hidden in himself (Ephesians 3:9 KJV) and gave to Paul the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began; the mystery that opened the door of salvation to anyone that wants it, even us pagan Gentiles that had never garnered God's attention (except for when he helped Israel kill us in battle)! Acts 28:28 KJV is Paul's announcement of this new revelation and in Ephesians and Colossians, he fleshes out the wonders of this mystery that finally allowed even "dirty dog" Gentiles to be saved; and by a free gift with NO WORKS! Ephesians 2:8 & 9 KJV. Works there included the works of the Law, like circumcision, baptism, tithing, sacrifices, keeping the feasts, etc. Not just doing nice things like mowing their neighbor's lawn. So this free gift gospel has no works attached to it, and that includes water baptism; in fact, those that go ahead and do it anyway, with the attitude that they are pleasing God are NOT pleasing him because they are ignoring his will for believers today! Luckily for us, we have "the forgiveness of sins" all upfront before we even stumble (Colossians 1:14 KJV) and no matter what we do after we accept the gift of eternal life in Jesus Christ, we can never, ever lose that eternal life that begins the moment we place our faith in our Saviour, Ephesians 4:30 KJV; the Holy Spirit seals us unto the day of redemption! So, can you see the importance of keeping our minds and hearts in that gift gospel program and being very careful to not mix legalistic doctrines like water baptism from other believers' relationships with God during other dispensations? The gospels and Acts are all prophecy-related; the kingdom was in their reach, but after that didn't work out, God canceled that prophecy and let the unbelieving nation go its way (and you can't even find it today!). Instead of dealing with the world in a national manner like he had since the creation of Israel, God instead began dealing with the world in an individual manner after the nation's fall in Acts 28:28-31; and Colossians 3:11 is Paul's way of expressing that concept. I believe that God goes back to the creation of mankind and retroactively considers each human to determine if they had demonstrated faith and belief in him during their particular lifetime. Those are the souls that will inhabit the earthly kingdom that Christ will receive when he appears - and he appears back on the earth during the mystery dispensation we are currently in; and there is never going to be a return to prophecy: Colossians 3:4. 1:13. The one new man is made up of the believers of time past and us believers saved by the mystery gospel in Ephesians and Colossians (the ONLY books of the Bible that apply directly to us!

[@timothygood5317]

Good work guys, great video.

[@redeemed5201]

Sean, please ask Dr. Farley to explain 1 John 1:9 and its context. His perspective on that is profound.

[@SeanMcDowell]

Thanks-next time!

[@lisafenwick3451]

They just dismissed baptism! Every conversion in Acts and the Epistles all talk about how you are united to Christ through baptism. Romans 6:1-23. Colossians 2. Galatians 3. 1 Peter 3. You die with Christ through baptism romans 6. In 1 Corinthians Paul says that he wasn't sent to baptize, but you got to look at the context he didn't want people to have them say i was baptized into Paul, we are baptized into Christ. That is the context. Same with all of the baptism passages the context is what you need to look at!

[@dfkuz]

Acts was only for Jews and Greeks. No pagan Gentiles allowed, so it has nothing to do with us today! Paul would have barred the doors of his churches against us so that we could not get in! But you think he was talking about us in his Acts epistles? Paul would not have baptized you or me; he would have told us to leave the property.

[@btvolley1]

​@@dfkuzthe term "Greeks" was used as a catch-all for all the pagan Gentiles of that day. The Apostles message most definitely applies to all of us today.

[@dfkuz]

@@btvolley1 I'm sorry that I have to disagree (although a couple of years ago I would have said the same thing!) because the God-fearing Greeks were a special class of Gentiles that were interested in spiritual things and often stood around in the marketplace and debated with each other.) The Greeks were more refined than the pagans in Asia that drank the blood of their victims right out of the victim's skull! They were a violent, rough type of Gentile that thought nothing of taking what they wanted, including their neighbor's wife, without feeling any guilt. The Greeks were fulfilling Old Testament prophecy so they were very specifically in God's plans for converting the chosen nation of Judah (he had divorced Israel many years before, Jeremiah 3:8 KJV) to belief in their Messiah so he could send him back to marry them in the marriage supper of the Lamb and give them the many mansions he had promised them; and if the Greeks accomplished their mission in being converted to faith in Christ, it would hopefully cause enough jealousy among the unsaved Jews that they would want what these Gentiles had! Romans 11:11 KJV. The Greeks were fulfilling the prophecy of Deuteronomy 32:21 by provoking the Jews to jealousy; and if the kingdom had arrived, they would have fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah 60:3 among others in that the Greeks would have entered the kingdom with the Jews, but to serve them as willing servants. That was why the Greeks didn't need to be circumcised, because if they were, they would have been Jews and not of a low enough status to serve them! So the Gentile Greeks in Acts were fulfilling OT prophecy and they were the ONLY Gentiles saved in Acts and the only Gentiles allowed to join the churches in Acts; that's why they were given Jewish ordinances (Acts 15) in order to make them clean/kosher enough to sit in synagogues with Jews! There are no other Gentiles but Greeks allowed to do that.

[@saraoroszova7685]

Yes and thank you! Baptism was believed to be salvific throughout the early church & church fathers were teaching it. Even after reformation the reformers such as Luther kept teaching it. Lutherans believe it still to this day. I dont understand such "boldness" in proclaiming it is not nor I do not understand the explanation that its the Catholic belief when its clear that the reformers were teaching it as well. And the thing with the guy next to Jesus on the cross...like there can't be exceptions to the rule when God chooses so? Yet people are still using this exception... Being baptized is Jesus commandment.

[@saraoroszova7685]

@@dfkuz What?? Were do you have your information from? It doesn't make any sense... So no one is being saved only Jews of that time and Greeks of that time who are "chosen" by Paul? Jesus came for all the nations and all the nations will be worshiping Jesus in His glory.

[@markshaneh]

Wow, How good is this Blessings my brother’s ✌🏼

[@ChipsAplentyBand]

Re: James vs. Paul on 'justified by works' vs. 'justified by faith': 1. Paul says in Acts that the Jerusalem church leaders "added nothing" to his gospel. James was in Jerusalem so he was in agreement with Paul's gospel. Yet there is an obvious verbal contradiction between Paul saying we are justified by faith, not by works, while James ostensibly says the opposite. 2.The resolution of this apparent verbal conflict lies in Paul and James using the word "justified" DIFFERENTLY. Paul uses it to refer to our LEGAL standing before GOD, but James uses it to refer instead to our SOCIAL/TESTIMONIAL standing before OTHER PEOPLE (cf. Jesus's similar use of "justify" in Luke 16:15).

[@aaronkjar8634]

Really enjoyed this discussion. Will have to get his book.

[@JadDragon]

Baptism Necessary? No. Should we do it? Yes. Jesus lives! ♥️ and is Yahweh God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑

[@dfkuz]

If you allow yourself or your children to be water baptized, what you're doing is showing God that you don't care enough about his word to study it rightly divided.

[@JadDragon]

@@dfkuz that's a complete lie.

[@JadDragon]

Going through this woman's replies and it's complete heresy. Don't pay it any attention. There is nothing of insight to be gained from someone who denies God.

[@dfkuz]

@@JadDragon You're the one denying God because he was not speaking to pagan Gentiles like everyone today until Acts ended in failure for the chosen people to get their kingdom - and Paul never tells anyone to be water baptized again after Acts ends.

[@JadDragon]

@@dfkuz you can take your heresy elsewhere. I'm not interested.

[@susi8018]

Concerning masturbation: Glad that you adressed a topic most other apologetics seem to shy away from! According to Andrew's position, lust, porn and fantasy is sin. Why fantasy - supposedly because it is a form of adultery happening in your mind. But now suppose being married and having fantasies about your own spouse, no third party involved. Would that still be sinful? If so, why?

[@tmodd2032]

If the fantasies would be in the realm of where you can share them with your significant other and it would be building up your relationship. Then you are probably not in the area of sin....too vague to really comment as a "fantasy" can be a lot of different things. Our Hearts are of the utmost concern...If we hate in our heart, we sin. If we lust in our mind/heart, we sin. So fantasy does not have to be sin, but it also could be....so depends (sorry if that is not helpful). IMO

[@user-kw9tb6nj4w]

Im a Catholic and do take issue with this.

[@jroark101]

They are Protestant so you shouldn’t be surprised.

[@pillarcollege]

We love your videos, Sean. Thanks for sharing.

[@SeanMcDowell]

Thank YOU!

[@kenboone1555]

Sean wonderful thank you for letting Andrew come on.

[@tompeers53]

Once saved always saved? …”in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach-- IF indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not shifting from the hope of the gospel” Salvation is contingent on, continued belief and trust.

[@jenniferwatson7118]

Very interesting. Sad to hear the take on the 10 Commandments and Sabbath though.

[@peterfox7663]

I disagree with his take but to his credit at least he recognizes Sunday is not the Sabbath

[@jenniferwatson7118]

@@peterfox7663 True.

[@jacobpierce6153]

@@peterfox7663 Sunday is the 7th day on French calendars, or at least that’s what I learned in French class. Choosing which day is 7th almost seems a little arbitrary (please don’t kill me lol)

[@peterfox7663]

@@jacobpierce6153 Yes in France they do, but it seems one would look to the day Jews honor the Sabbath. By the Catholic and Reformed confessions (and others), they make the explicit claim that the day of worship was changed from the seventh day of the week to the first -- from Saturday to Sunday -- declaring it to be "the Christian Sabbath" and "the Lord's Day", acknowledging Saturday is the Sabbath of the Bible.

[@jacobpierce6153]

@@peterfox7663 yeah I agree with the claim that Jesus rose on the day after Sabbath and then it was changed to sunday

[@anthonywhitney634]

In regards to James 2, and justification - the fact that the word could very well mean something differently here, as in justified = 'proven right', or vindicated, the context tends to lend itself to this.

[@SashaLipskaia]

Thank you so much!

[@jimpowell6964]

Sean and Andrew, 2 of my favorites!

[@mottgirl13]

I didn’t believe in tongues, until a friend told me of her prayer and that she could not say Jesus, and instead called him the Cantonese version - “yea-soh”She is Indian and does not know Cantonese. I do, and when I heard her say it, I said, that means Jesus. So.. she was relieved it pointed to Jesus.

[@christopretorius2632]

Can you please explain Hebrews 6:4-8, 3:12, 10:26-29, Matt 24:10, 1 Tim 4:1, which all speaks of believers that can backslide and faal again away from grace? I believe nothing can separate us from God if we are saved except if we choose to faal back into sin as these Scriptures confirms. Praying in tongues is confirmed in 1 Cor 14:2, 4 & 28. Please explain?

[@BGID7]

This was really good, thank you

[@nickstuart200]

If God doesn't specifically ordain time, date, place of natural disasters, is there occurrence purely random? What's his answer for why and where they happen?

[@kinalynch6857]

Very insightful! Thank you!

[@tartinitrumpet]

I'm curious where he reads that baptism is a celebration like a birthday. Maybe he is thinking about being born again in John 3 (of water and the Spirit). And didn't Jesus say you MUST be born again? Of course Jesus did not mean that being baptised was WHAT took sins away, rather WHEN they are taken away. I would recommend a book that focuses on baptism verses. "Baptism: A Biblical Study" by Jack Cottrell.

[@ricksonora6656]

He wasn’t quoting, he was illustrating. If you are converted at the time you’re baptized, you’re right. But if there’s a delay by even a minute, you’re wrong. Peter said baptism is symbolic (“like figure”) and the answer of a clean conscience. A clean conscience has already been cleansed. Romans 4 and James 2 cite Genesis 15:6. Abraham was saved when he believed, and the ceremony came years later. Galatians addresses sacramentalism, that is, making ceremonies necessary for receiving God’s grace. Paul called it “fallen from grace” because it makes works a part of conversion. Baptism is good. It gives you a landmark, testifies what God has done, and symbolically preaches the gospel. But water baptism (as contrasted the the baptism By the Spirit into the church) is not an element of salvation.

[@tartinitrumpet]

​@@ricksonora6656 Peter says the flood waters were a symbol of baptism, not the other way around. Additionally, in this verse "pledge of" may not be the best translation, but "appeal for". Romans 4 and James 2 are not about Abraham's salvation, so I don't see the correlation you're making. I don't see anywhere where the Bible says baptism is a landmark or symbol. Probably, like Dr. Farley in the video, you have given it these names because you see baptism as a work. A main reason for this thinking is that almost everyone begins with a false understanding of "works." It is just assumed that a "work" is "something YOU DO.'' That is true in a general sense, and Jesus himself uses "works" language in this sense to describe FAITH (John 6:26-29). The problem is that most people ascribe this same definition (something you do) to Paul's use of "works." But here is the deal: Paul CANNOT be using the term in that general sense, because he clearly separated faith (which Jesus calls a work) from works (Eph. 2:8-9). So Paul must have a more specific definition of works, or he would be contradicting Jesus. What is his definition? "Works of law" (Rom. 3:20, 28; Gal. 2:16) which means any response to whatever law code you are living under (for us it is the New Covenant law code). It is these "works of law" that cannot be conditions for salvation. What does constitute conditions for salvation, according to Paul? Obedience to the GOSPEL (see Rom. 10:16 [literal translation - But not all heeded the good news], 2 Thess. 1:8). Obedience to the gospel includes MORE than faith, and these acts of obedience to the gospel are "things we do." But these are not the "works of law" that are separated from salvation. There's not a contradiction between baptism for salvation and salvation by grace alone. Consider this combining of verses (Eph. 2:8-10, Col. 2:12): We are saved by grace through faith In Jesus Christ at baptism for good works.

[@ricksonora6656]

@@tartinitrumpet Regarding 1 Peter 3:21, the pivotal, nominative noun: “The noun επερωτημα (eperotema), which may refer to a question or inquiry or even a whole matter of inquiry, but it may also denote the response to a request or the answer to an inquiry given back to whatever authority posed the question or made the request in the first place. In the New Testament this word is used in 1 PETER 3:21 only, where it describes man's mind after baptism, in response to God's original request,” that is, the resurrection referred to at the end of the verse. It remains that a good conscience assumes the conscience having already been cleansed. You misstated my comment on Romans 4 and James 2. I didn’t say either was about Abraham, but they were illustrated by the justification and life of Abraham. James 2:23 cites Genesis 15:6 in a context of two themes: Genuine faith reveals itself through works*, and works justify us to other people. “And he was called [by men] the friend of God.” (*Implying that a lack of works indicates insincere faith.) But citing Genesis shows James was not suggesting works, including ceremonies, justified Abraham before God. Romans 4 focuses on Abraham to illustrate that God justifies on the basis of faith alone. “But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness.” The evidences of salvation that Abraham performed followed from, rather than causing, his justification before God. “For we say, ‘Faith was credited to Abraham as righteousness.’ How then was it credited? While he was circumcised, or uncircumcised? Not while circumcised, but while uncircumcised; and he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had while uncircumcised….” Galatians addresses the addition of ceremonies as a requirement for salvation. Paul calls sacramentalists bewitched, foolish, severed from Christ, and fallen from grace. As you said, it doesn’t matter which law you add; that is, it matters not at all whether the sacrament is circumcision or baptism. I’m surprised you would cite John 6:29 and not understand this. Colossians 2:12: If the “circumcision made without hands” in verse 11 is spiritual, then the baptism and resurrection in verse 12 are also spiritual and done “without hands.” The verse is not about the ceremony, it’s about what God does spiritually. You’ve got severe problems with the thief on the cross and the household of Cornelius in Acts 10. The gospel you disobey calls for you to abandon self justification and trust Christ instead. “This is the work of God, that you believe….” Salvation is a gift. All you can do to receive a gift is consent. When you try to earn a gift through refraining from sin, doing deeds or ceremonies, or persevering, you insult the Giver. Your trust is not in God. It is in a false religion. That requires repentance just as much as any other sin.

[@mattcline_]

@@ricksonora6656 I don't see a problem with it. Baptism isn't something you do, it's something done to you. Don't think anyone is saying that the 'ceremony' is earning the gift, but it is when the acceptance of the gift is and when the Spirit does the work. To use your terminology, baptism is when the consent is given. No work we can do is gift earning and I don't see a misunderstanding of that fact from either replies. I'm thinking of Romans 6:3-4... How do I get in Christ? Get buried with Christ and raised to new life... at the time of baptism, not because of baptism. Hope you can see it this way. I think it makes all the other verses about faith and grace and obedience to the gospel line up.

[@brycemcculley8689]

We don't have to agree with everything said here. However, we need to have serious discussions on these questions without being angry. We need to research for ourselves and compare. People often go on "this is how I've always believed" and not what they know from the Word. Consider other opinions and look at it from their point of view using the Word of God. If you don't change your mind, fine. Don't be mad at someone for having a different perspective. I want to hear thoughts other than my own. It's important in my growth as a Christian. It will either solidify my original opinion or cause me to change my mind. Growing in Christ in the goal. If our first response is anger to another believer, I dare say that is wrong. I have been around teenagers for many years and will say, if we are not willing and able to answer tough questions without justification, openness and love, it will fall on deaf ears.

[@jamesbertram7925]

FAITH IS ALWAYS FIRST, BUT WITHOUT FRUIT NO ONE IS SAVED , I CAN GIVE YOU HUNDREDS OF VERSES TO PROVE THIS TRUTH

[@LottieLooP123]

I’d love to know which translation Dr Farley and Sean think is the most accurate

[@prissylovejoy702]

I feel like I’m more of a sinner now after being saved than I was prior to being saved and I don’t know if it’s because I was so young (16) when I was saved and hadn’t had much time to get into trouble yet or because now I’m more aware of my sin and have 45 more years under my belt.

[@JasonScott_tt]

Hallelujah!!! I’m blessed and favored with $60,000 every week! Now I can afford anything and support the work of God and the church. For Your glory, LORD! HALLELUJAH!

[@JasonScott_tt]

This is what Melissa Jonas Richard does, she has changed my life.

[@JasonScott_tt]

After raising up to 60k trading with her, I bought a new house and car here in the US and also paid for my son’s (Oscar) surgery. Glory to God.shalom.

[@SamanthaBrookeYT]

Wow, that’s inspiring. How can I contact Melissa Jonas Richard?

[@JasonScott_tt]

connect with her through

[@JasonScott_tt]

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[@meamisano]

This was really great!

[@JP-uz3nk]

Baptism is necessary for salvation Acts 2:38, mk.16:16

[@dfkuz]

It absolutely was for the Jews and Greeks in Acts that believed in the Messiah! But we are not them. We are the pagans saved after Acts ended and by a free gift that has no strings attached, especially not baptism!

[@dosisdedoctrina]

@@dfkuz That is a common ultra-dispensationalist claim, but the texts on baptism clearly have a larger reach. Matt 28:19-20 (nations, until the end of the age); Act 2 (for you, and your children and as many...); Baptism for salvation is in the later NT books (Titus 3; 1 Pet 3; John 3:5).

[@btvolley1]

Neither of those passages say baptism is necessary for salvation... it is the normal, expected response to belief, but it is faith in Christ that saves. Mark 16:16 demonstrates this - why is baptism included in the first phrase, accompanying belief, but not included in the second phrase...?? Shouldn't it read, "whoever does not believe and is not baptised will be condemned"?

[@grantgooch5834]

1 Peter 3:19-22 19 After being made alive, [Jesus] went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits- 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also- *not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.* It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at God’s right hand-with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him. The physical act of baptism isn't necessary for salvation, the pledge of faith and a transformation of life toward God is. The thief on the cross also wasn't baptized but was saved.

[@dfkuz]

@@btvolley1 Water baptism was very important to the believers in the earthly gospel ministry of Jesus and in the Acts period. It was necessary for them to be washed with water in order to be "born again of the water and the Spirit"! Just as the Israelites were born unto God the first time when they were led through the Red Sea by God in the Exodus, water was again necessary to be born again! (Yeah, I realize they didn't get wet going through the Red Sea but take it up with God, LOL!) "Can a nation be born in a day?" Oh, you know the thing! So, water baptism is a ritual that only applies to the chosen people of God: Israel, Judah. For us to borrow it for ourselves is just plain wrong. We today are all born dead spiritually (and if you can bear it, demon-possessed!) so we need the first birth that takes place supernaturally the moment we believe, receive the Holy Spirit, who casts out the demons possessing us and seals us unto the day of redemption so that no demons can ever come into us again! (My own experience was pretty dramatic so I definitely felt it and the peace of having my demons disappear was palpable! My testimony is online and the link is in my profile.)

[@thomaseubanks3939]

Awesome gentlemen thank you

[@shawnbrown5174]

Is our heavenly father disciplining us because he's pleased with our deeds? 24:36

[@Dark2light543]

I don’t agree with his 1st point. Matt 28v19

[@robertcarlson6061]

Amen, Amen And Amen - Great Q & A Discussion! 😃

[@candicepierce5726]

Great answers. Thanks.

[@donald2818]

Finally someone said that M is ok as long as no lust is involved as I believe. Can everyone do this without lust? No, but that is a must. I know Mike Winger has this view. Self-control is also a must.

[@stephensipe5405]

Here is another divisive Christian question: What about prosperity gospel? Please define what a prosperity gospel is. Many have accused Pastor Osteen of Lakeland Church as preaching a prosperity gospel. This is false. He is a prosperous preacher and has a huge ministry. The many times I have listened to him, Pastor Osteen uplifts and pushes Christians to have active belief in lives. Contrast Pastor Osteen to Pastor Charles Stanley or Pastor Jimmy Swaggert. I listen often to Pastor Swaggert as a new Born Again believer. He showed pictures of hard to pronounce Biblical words and explained concepts. But his ministry meant more to him financially than taking a sabbatical to refresh himself to resist temptation. He failed to comprehend his value to help believers. Pastor Stanley was married for 42 years. During this period he took his family on many vacations. However, as Pastor Stanley got older and his TV ministry more influential, he came to feel not producing a show for TV would miss saving a lost person. He forgot only GOD Saves, Isaiah 43:10-13. Therefore, Pastor Stanley divorced his wife he was supposed to love as Jesus loved the Church. Unfortunately, millions of mixed up Christians supported his divorce rather than counsel him with letters to take a vacation and reconcile with his wife. Neither of these Pastors could finish their race without catastrophic failures!!!

[@s.d.melcher]

41:31 Did I miss it??? If the King James has identified mistakes in translations, then WHICH BOOK is most accurate to the original manuscripts, please????? 🙏☹️

[@jay1871]

As of the present, you probably want a NASB95.

[@s.d.melcher]

@@jay1871 Thank you so much. I’ll look into that. God bless you! ✨💖💪✝️🕊️💖✨

[@natsam1411]

Rahab and Abraham were not during the Grace Period. They were therefore showing their Faith in God by doing the acts of obedience and trust!

[@StephenItanagar]

Baptism is like a marriage ceremony.. Each one may decide whether Baptism needed are not

[@foxecarpentress4964]

Sorry you are incorrect. Jesus Said we must be Baptized by Water and the Spirit or we cannot enter the Kingdom of God!!! John 3:5 🙌✝️🙌

[@alexgorrod]

A couple of minor quibbles. 1. Dr. Farley makes the argument for eternal security and how Christians can not become apostate and uses being slaves to righteousness as a reason why we can trust that. But using that argument we could say we turned from our our old master and went to a new master. So, if we could do that once, we could do that again. So that isn't the strongest argument to use. 2. Dr. Farley talks about judgement from God not happening now. The issue I'm seeing with his argument is Revelation talking about judgement of nations, even ones with saved people in them. Probably a better argument would be that when God judges nations in the Bible he declares it prior to the action taking place. Since he didn't declare it for 9/11 or other instances then it doesn't align with how He acts in Scripture.

[@chrishadwin7511]

If water baptism is not necessary for salvation, were the ana-baptists wrong to claim that one needed to be baptized as a believer (believer's baptism)? The ana-baptists did not view one who had been baptized as an infant as having been baptized at all. They felt it was necessary to be baptized as a believer. Many of them were martyred for refusing to renounce their belief. If the ana-baptists did not believe it was necessary for salvation, I don't believe they would have continued baptizing believers at the risk of being martyred.

[@brudit]

@chrishadwin7511 Hopefully this answere comes to right place now, yt is not working poperly for some reason.. But this is not just anabaptist view, that's common in many places. I have been taught that the only biblical baptism is credo baptism, someone who first believes then takes baptism (by immersion if there is water available) I myself leave room for peoples conscience. Some are tought that pedobaptism is valid and Holy Spirit can do all the convicting. It's important to walk in best understanding and pure heart before God. Even though I see that it is baptism of Spirit in Jesus that saves us, not water, the later is really necessary for the walk in Jesus, otherwise Jesus didn't give us this example. It is an appeal to God for a good conscience so that we are able to stand in His presence and walk in His will. Just my quick thoughts about the topic by the way, as I have been pondering these and learning different viewpoints.

[@gr8god4u]

You need to do a very thorough study on the various types of works including the works of God which is among the others a much broader understanding and wisdom of works.

[@sotiriosnovatsis4529]

Jesus said that even he needed to be baptised to fulfil all righteousness. They weren’t just baptising Jews, either, but all believers. And Jesus’ instructed his apostles to continue baptising people in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit even after his death and resurrection. So even though Jesus will baptise us with the Holy Spirit and fire, something that I’ve physically as well as spiritually experienced, the Scriptures make it abundantly clear that a proper water baptism is necessary for salvation.

[@victoriadias4179]

So # 3, is he saying for example that if a person gets saved (and baptized) at 14 and then a few years later turns away from their faith, they are still saved forevermore? Or did I misunderstand?

[@simonskinner1450]

Dr Farley does not describe a profession of faith for a believer, which means he does not define a believer, yet says a believer has a new heart given them and future sins remembered no more, allowing lying, cheating and stealing. So a believer sounds to me like an unbeliever.

[@jroark101]

As soon as this guy said you can’t turn away from Christ and still make it to heaven turned me off. Was going to get the book until then.

[@MarekMalevic]

Exactly. I wanted to finish the video but then decided to not do it. Because he seems to be ignoring so much clear evidence from the Bible and even pure logic. And I am quite tired of people who ignore or change what the Bible contains just because they want to support non-Biblical idea. The guy seems to be quite self-confident in what he says even if it makes too little sense so rest of the video would probably mainly annoy me.

[@laylamotaung7128]

Please time stamp where he said that ?

[@maikendao]

As a vietnamese listening, I was really shocked when the guest counted in vietnamese 😂

[@teresaknott7471]

The doctrine of OSAS wasn’t in the early church beliefs, came into existence by Augustine in 5th century.

[@Disciple793]

James does not contradict Paul. They are coming at justification from 2 points of view. Paul was a Pharisee, and he was very legalistic. He wanted his audience to understand that the Law cannot save. It's the death, burial and resurrection that saves hence to put once trust in Jesus Christ. James just expands on Paul's teaching. He says that faith without works is dead. In other words, a born-again Christian is person who bears fruit. That's why James refers to a follower of Christ has having living faith rather than a dead faith. Dead faith is not a born-again Christian. There is no light (works) that shines as Jesus describes believers are to be salt and light.

[@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm]

The thief on the cross is a poor excuse, it’s like saying Jesus owned a time share in Disney. I can assume he did sense the Bible doesn’t say he didn’t. Where in the Bible does it say this was the first time the thief on the cross meet Jesus. How do we know he wasn’t one of the people that left during. John 6:66 Now if you have a Bible verse that says you don’t need baptism let’s do it. You have to prove sola fide, so you do everything possible to manipulate the Bible. Mark 16:6 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. You argument he is talking about belief, then you compare it to 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him 1 John 2:4-6 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God[a] is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did. What did Jesus do? He got baptized; For what as a symbol that he was a Christian

[@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm]

They claim they follow Jesus and not a man made religion/ yet they are clearly a man made religion that came about in the 16 century They claim to follow the word of God but do everything to first prove their theology of sola fide Mark 16:6 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. They will argue is talking about belief, then you compare it to 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him 1 John 2:4-6 4 Whoever says, "I know him," but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God[a] is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did. So they will claim you don’t need baptism. Complete disobedience to the word of God.

[@mkl2237]

Hebrews alone is enough to disprove OSAS. The book of Matthew with statements from Jesus Himself as well. It goes in from there. Dr Farley misrepresents the question of OSAS. God never holds us against our will. It’s a really important issue. Many think they’re saved because they “invited Jesus into their heart” at some church rally… then they don’t show any signing sanctification and they never get to know Jesus. OSAS is a cheap slogan.

[@kennethmace2875]

Wrong

[@mkl2237]

@@kennethmace2875 Yes… Farley IS wrong about that. Glad you agree. And though you actually don’t… you’re wrong on it too, Brother. Over 60 verses make the point I made.

[@foxecarpentress4964]

Yes, once saved always saved is a cheap slogan, itching the ears of people who don’t want to walk the disciplined walk of Holiness!!! Peace be with you 🎺🎺 ❤️🤴❤️ 🎺🎺

[@SebastianOsborn]

Here's the problem with this idea that you can stop having faith in Jesus and "jump" out of salvation if you want to. When you're saved, you've been changed. So, you made your choice upon repentance and trust in Jesus (I'm talking genuine faith). That was your free will. At some point, that decision will be sealed forever. We can both agree death is the final seal. So my question to you is this: If we can both agree that death is the seal of that choice and no more free will to change your mind can be given after this, then why is it any different once someone puts saving faith in Jesus? That choice is no longer available once they make that decision. Not only that but the Holy Spirit comes into their soul and changes them, so they may run from God but they will never stop wanting him ultimately because God seals that decision inside them by the Holy Spirit inside them continually desiring God for the rest of their lives, so how could they walk away?

[@akaCyrano]

I understand the baptism position presented here is popular with many denominations but, as one who holds to the Lutheran Confessions, I’m disappointed in a video claiming to answer the question that there was no interaction with different positions (or even acknowledgement they exist) from many who have carefully considered the same Scriptures and see baptism as God’s work, not our celebration.

[@Balcamion79]

I think the position he takes about teachers being judged more harshly is very shallow in its view of both salvation and judgment. We can be saved and admitted to eternal life and still judged by God based on the things we have done or not done. The fou dation is Christ, but what we build on it will be tested as by fire.

[@annaraeellison3417]

If we really do have eternal security, no matter what we do, then what do you say about the person that continues to live in sin or has been a "Christian" for many years but refuses to give up swearing because he doesn't think certain words are wrong. And his wife who wouldn't give up smoking because she was angry at people who told her she was going to hell because of it. And my Southern Baptist cousins who have been married 6 & 7 times, but think they're going to heaven anyway. I could go on...my point is if we are going to believe in eternal security why do we need the grace of God to cover our sins? This type of argument makes purgatory sound like a good idea!

[@JimmyHaugland-cl6lr]

@@annaraeellison3417 please read Hebrews on OSAS.

[@JimmyHaugland-cl6lr]

@@annaraeellison3417 Roman’s 6:2, then continue through the 6th chapter. Baptism symbolizes our death to our old man of sin to arise to our new life in Christ.

[@76meko]

Thank you. ✨💞🙏🏽💞✨

[@shawnbrown5174]

9:29 I disagree with the once saved always saved statement. In Revelation Jesus is talking to John about the churches and says to them I will remove your lampstand. Without the lampstand the church is walking in darkness can anyone in darkness find the kingdom of Heaven? In the Gospel of John Jesus tells his disciples to abide in him and that if they remain in him he would remain in them. What do you think will happen if they do not remain in him?

[@jacqueslemieux3328]

I like this one! (Flirting with Moses is Cheating on Jesus)

[@dfkuz]

Colossians 1:14 covers it all. God wants us to chill!

[@ericgatera7149]

Water baptism is part of the Gospel of Salvation (Mark 16, Acts 2, 1Peter 3, etc). It is not a birthday celebration party contrary to the speaker false claim.

[@peterfox7663]

1:00:15 No, we are building politics around our identity as followers of God. To eschew "politics" is to decline to participate in a self-governing society.

[@frederickwilliams3319]

If tongues are only human languages used to speak in the native languages of people we are preaching to, why is there a companion gift of interpretation of tongues? Wouldn’t that be unnecessary?

[@ricksonora6656]

Tongues may communicate to others, but they were a sign to unbelievers, specifically educated Jews. The Old Testament links the sign to God’s judgment of the Jews. That happened in 70 AD when Rome destroyed the Temple and Jerusalem and scattered the Jews. Why interpretation? For the sake of the rest of the congregation. That should be obvious.

[@lillisa6441]

​@@ricksonora6656​I think the point of the OP is; let's say you are a missionary sent to minister in Japan and know no Japanese and The Holy Spirit allows you to speak to Japanese people in the Japanese language (tongues as a human language). There would be no need for interpretation. In fact in the very story Dr. Farley references to justify tongues as ONLY human language no interpretor was mention if I'm not mistaken, (it has been a long time since I read that passage.) The people automatically recognized their language and were amazed. I've always been interested in tongues tbh.

[@SeanRhoadesChristopher]

Baptism cannot alone save one, but if one knows it is a sacrament and doesn’t do it is in rebellion and is not allowing the Holy Spirit to lead them. Such a person is a branch on the vine that is in danger of being cut off!

[@gy5240]

Baptised by the spirit.

[@leviticusemmanuel4421]

1 Peter 3:21 Baptism, which is symbolized by that water, now saves you also, not by removing dirt from the body, but by asking God for a clear conscience based on the resurrection of Jesus, the Messiah, Water baptism always saves you now. Bow is today, tomorrow and as long as this world lives. Let no one decieves you that water baptism don't saves.

[@mkl2237]

Wrong on OSAS. It’s a cheap slogan. A dangerous and misused slogan. David Pawson explains it best. No one can snatch us out of His hand. We can choose to jump out. People do walk away all the time… it’s a reality.

[@laylamotaung7128]

1 John 2:19 ESV They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.

[@suzanholland]

I wish You Tube still showed how many "thumbs down" there are on a video. :/

[@simonskinner1450]

OSAS is on death, as only past sins are purged at baptism, we are saved by grace but it the grace of the Father in baptism, and Christ in judgement as we die.

[@annaraeellison3417]

What if a pastor teaches a false doctrine and leads people astray? Wouldn't that be judged harshly? Parents are responsible for what they do and don't teach their children, why wouldn't church leaders,teachers, Christian college professors, etc. be responsible also?

[@JP-uz3nk]

Justification is only one time for initial salvation 😎😎

[@jonfortuna9673]

😂 initial salvation?

[@We-need-Abe]

Denying the necessity of baptism requires purposeful ignoring plain and direct scriptures. As asked about Acts 2. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. So baptism alone my not save, but a belief alone seem to have the same lack of accepting the saving grace offered. Mark 16 offers a more direct answer to the question. Some of the last teachings of the resurrected Christ: 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

[@teresaknott7471]

This guy needs to study early church fathers especially on baptism and OSAS.

[@tedroybal5231]

First, the theif on the cross cannot be raised by God in baptism to a new life if Jesus has not yet been raised. Second, you are taking Paul's words about baptism out of context. The Corinthians chose just about every reason on earth to not be unified, including who baptized them! Paul was emphatic in saying he wanted no part in further dividing them. You refuse to acknowledge that baptism is spiritual as it is crystal clear in Colossians 2 that baptism is a work of God because it it done without human hands! Both the saving works of God at Pentecost and in the Cornelius household began with the Holy Spirit and ended with baptism. In Peters testimony in Acts 11, he concludes, "Who was I that I could stand in God's way?" Anyone stopping any part of God's work in salvation needs to GET OUT OF GODS WAY!

[@shawnbrown5174]

16:10 Jesus says blasphemy against the holy spirit is an unforgivable sin.

[@shawnbrown5174]

"Water has never saved anybody." Noah and his family... Moses and the Israelites when parting the red sea... Not sure this statement was thought through very well. This is 2 clear examples of Gods salvation through literal water. 2:55

[@pattitaylor7300]

Last time I checked those stories, God did the saving. The water was a form of death to many.

[@shawnbrown5174]

​@@pattitaylor7300Yes, exactly. God saved his chosen people by water.

[@shawnbrown5174]

@@pattitaylor7300 1 Peter 3:20-21 NIV [20] to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, [21] and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, I'm pretty sure Peter would disagree...

[@thejohn17project15]

It is a mistake of category to think that Justification and Salvation are the same thing. Paul said we are not saved by works but by grace. James said that no one is justified by faith apart from works. They are not talking about the same thing. Everywhere in scripture where people are acting in faith it is always accompanied by works. Not just once but I over and over again. It is a false dichotomy to say that Justification and Salvation are the same thing. This is where the central issue lies with the understanding of James 2.

[@jay1871]

I think Paul and James use that word in slightly different ways also. At its simplest, justification is “why a thing is the way that it is”. Paul uses justification in the context of “why I am right before God” and James seems to use it more of “my life validates my beliefs”. Your thoughts? Is this similar to what you’re communicating?