Anthony Cumia & Jim Norton Debate the Sean Bell Verdict

[@ChuxDiaz]

When a plumber messes up your left with a leaky faucet, when a cop makes a mistake someone dies. There ought to be a punishment.

[@flatterswhite]

whats with the plumbing analogy

[@MIS315]

Facts

[@NeoNero83]

This was a smart, respectful debate. Just plain discussion with two different perspectives.

[@AroundSun]

He was armed, the car was the weapon

[@MIS315]

Yeah, no

[@davidperez5089]

50 shots too many. A car is definitely a weapon wtf!?

[@fluffypixels1978]

Jimmy is completely wrong here when it comes to "it's never the cop's fault". I was undecided on police and by chance started watching this KZbin channel where they upload bodycam footage, they aren't biased either, they upload videos of police fucking up, embarrassing videos (like two cops standing next to a young girl in a car who, in front of them casually gets out of her cuffs and starts driving the car as they just go "what's she doin'?") and also every day videos. They DO punish police for mistakes and do admit to mistakes, it's just that this stuff gets very messy because the media will outright lie to make a good sounding story. For instance, I saw a video of a guy saying he had a grenade under his shirt and that he was going to blow them all up. Having grown up in a crime ridden shithole myself I know that some people actually do have grenades and explosives. He ran at the police after them trying to talk him down for 40 minutes and they had to shoot him in case it was a grenade. It turned out to be a small pair of gardening shears. The problem with the media is that they wouldn't report the "I have a grenade" part of the story, they'd report "black man gets shot for holding garden shears in his own garden." I wish I was exaggerating but there are stories that are pretty much exactly like that. I think one I remember is them saying "police fatally shoot a man for having a broken tail light" the story was they pulled him over for having a broken tail light, then found out he was wanted for murder or something, the guy reached for a gun so they shot him. How scummy is it of the media to report that as "shot for a broken light"? It prevents us from being able to have any kind of normal, practical discussion because there's so much disinformation everywhere.

[@dyates6380]

No one is suggesting that there are NO cops who screw up. Cops are people, like lawyers, factory workers and doctors are. Some are better than others. I've seen plenty of YT videos run by people who both harass and go out of their way to LOOK for mistakes made by police officers. In this case the judge got it right, from what I saw of the evidence and what was presented. It's funny that so many NYT journalists jumped on the witnesses' stories as gospel truth and not even considering the police officers' account, almost as if they welcomed unrest which, of course and as usual, was subsequent and lasting. That's where we are now in this country thanks largely to the "media", but the funny thing is, as much as so many people HATE cops, if they need one in the cesspool that is NYC now they'd be screaming for one. Hypocrisy at its finest.

[@nteta10k]

Not gonna listen to the full clip but awesome thumbnail! Ant looks good

[@TowGunner]

Jimmy is the king of disclaimers. “I love cops but......” “I love blacks but......”

[@nimo517]

But so does Everyone else. Anthony just said “I feel bad but…” I’m not even arguing the shooting but just that both sides are guilty

[@nteta10k]

Lmao Colin Quinn pointed that out about him. He Always uses that But

[@Frank-pc2rs]

​@@nimo517 Everybody does it at one point or another but Jimmy does it all the time.

[@reverenddick8562]

Certain groups just LOVE victimhood. Pathetic.

[@MaxFlub]

Ant was right and look where it led us to today they can't even do their jobs without threats of losing a job

[@VashTheDamnFiend]

That morning zoo song at the end was horrendous

[@Evil-Jesus]

16:50 what was that?

[@MIS315]

Joan rivers

[@grantredmond2054]

or maybe Jimmy is playing a role