We done with the 90s, 2000s, 2010s, 2020s. Wait till the 2050s when the REAL SKILLED players will come into the NBA.
@seanmc59492 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣😅
@petecarrasquillo70562 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@thavalidj1142 ай бұрын
4 point line, every player shoots 48% from 3. I got the script
@mamadoubarrie66072 ай бұрын
@@thavalidj114 No u don’t just go ahead and burn it or throw it ur not making it to the NBA’s writing team
@ogbmt2 ай бұрын
Lol "Wemby was trash, he only put up numbers because he was playing against a bunch of 6'9 instagram influencers and fashion models"
@RumblyAxe2 ай бұрын
“The athletes of today are better then the athletes of yesterday and the athletes of tomorrow are better then the athletes of today “ - Gsp
@ajrenaissance2 ай бұрын
My favorite fighter ever
@Pyrogully2 ай бұрын
You know what’s crazy that really what Anthony Edward’s was actually saying.
@khalilwilliams18182 ай бұрын
no you wouldn't say football athletes are better then early 2000.
@sideshowbobsaget88762 ай бұрын
But they aren't
@YusufRawlinson-qk4rx2 ай бұрын
That’s the greatest MMA fighter ever saying that as well
@brennan_2 ай бұрын
One day, the NBA community will able to hold two thoughts at once: yes players are generally better now, especially on the margins, but does not mean we should dismiss historical accomplishments on those grounds.
@TsoDrag2 ай бұрын
Yeah because you may disagree of the talent but at that time those accomplishment where still accomplished we still need to respect what they have earned but also viewing it in a different context
@gengar4642 ай бұрын
Good take
@kalistofn2 ай бұрын
Yes. Your skill is relative to the time period.
@JD-ny3vz2 ай бұрын
It's insane how this is impossible for 90% of us
@Like-oe1cy2 ай бұрын
Except that players aren’t generally better…that’s the issue
@Pr0digy472 ай бұрын
The Olympics actually kinda proved what you and KG were saying. The older players had to step up and win because the younger guys weren’t use to that style of play
@brianduru37532 ай бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily say that it's just because the younger guys weren't used to that style.... I mean obviously experience helps and all, but I think the bigger issue is that LeBron, KD and Steph are just very, VERY good. I mean we're talking about a player in the GOAT convo, the greatest shooter of all time and one of the greatest scoreres ever. All top 20 players of all time. Curry for instance didn't have any Olympic experience for instance and still dominated the last two games. When in trouble, give the rock to the best players. It's a proven strategy. And Team USA's best players were like demi-gods
@giombi152 ай бұрын
And they weren’t a serious threat in the NBA playoffs despite this. So yes , they younger player’s inexperience in this style of play could have been the main reason
@brianduru37532 ай бұрын
@@giombi15 Because they were on flawed teams. It's still a team sport. A good team will pick LeBron, KD or Steph over Tatum, Edwards or any other young star. Not because of experience (though that plays a part), but because they are still exceptional in the right situation.
@giombi152 ай бұрын
@@brianduru3753 the only person I will accept that argument for is Steph. Lebron and KD literally create the flawed teams through their actions
@brianduru37532 ай бұрын
@@giombi15 That is irrelevant though and not the point of the conversation. We're not talking about who creates the teams. We're talking about what they do on the court. And they are simply just better players than the younger generation, even despite their age. They're just too talented. LeBron might be the GOAT (he's second only to Jordan in my eyes). Curry is the greatest shooter ever and Durant is one of the most efficient scorer we've ever seen. Sure experience helps, but what these guys primarily have is talent. Hell, KD and Bron were in the MVP discussion in their early 20's; there's no amount of experience that can teach that.
@andremoore7962 ай бұрын
I know Anthony Edward’s wants to bring up Magic’s A*ds and his son so bad rn
@fearlesstay2 ай бұрын
nah that was be petty af😭lowkey funny tho
@antireese2 ай бұрын
That’s what you wanna do. They keeping it straight hoops cuz that’s the point. Weirdo😂😂
@seanmc59492 ай бұрын
This is a flagrant foul🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Virgil1912 ай бұрын
Shit magic could bring up ant trying to force an abortion on his BM atp
@YfnAntwon2 ай бұрын
Nah bru I think yu got sum yu wanna say to magic 😭
@DonDeDon4452 ай бұрын
I saw somebody else say this and it’s true. Every generation of basketball player think they were the best thing to ever happen to the sport and the people before them and after them couldn’t play with them. It’s the only sport were ego and selfishness is praised and then we get surprised when they have ego and pride.
@2cents2502 ай бұрын
that isnt unique to basketball. ignorance was displayed here. not pride or ego. plain ignorance and low basketball iq from a player that admits he doesnt watch film.
@bubblefluke2 ай бұрын
that's literally every sport ever wym
@DonDeDon4452 ай бұрын
@@bubblefluke no it’s not. I played football. The moment you let your ego take over and you think you can stop a play cause you saw it on film and you mess up, you’re getting benched. You cannot just take over a football game and be Superman without consequences especially if you fail. That’s not the same in basketball. Just attempting to be the hero in clutch situations is praised in basketball.
@jameswong70612 ай бұрын
@@DonDeDon445 back in days, champions speaks with wisdom , humbleness (for 2010's i know Drose is a sad story, but man, i love the kid, & Drose was 22 on his MVP year, 2011). but todays generation, with the social media's help, they speaks cockiness just to show how great they are even before achieving anything, that's the problem, and AE even worst, try to shine the generation z or himself by disrespecting the HOF. POA to him, talk less to the press & media, go & train his stamina for full 48mins.
@Donte.M2 ай бұрын
It’s human nature everyone generation did it the best we’re biased to what we know.
@Disxreet2 ай бұрын
Him immediately saying “I didn’t watch it” renders the rest of his sentence utterly meaningless. If u didn’t watch it, stfu
@colewrld9012 ай бұрын
I mess with Ant, but that was foolishness and typical dismissive gen z shit. Like u telling me penny, Hakeem, barkley, kg, Clyde, kevin johnson, j kidd, grant Hill, rod Strickland, wasn't skilled?
@destinedforgreatness30302 ай бұрын
Just say ant don’t talk about gen z im 24 and I don’t agree with ant take
@fortynights15132 ай бұрын
The tendencies of players from earlier generations are different than current players. In other words the sky is blue
@mamadoubarrie66072 ай бұрын
Can u blame him the oldheads been talking shit bout this era for over a decade but now when we respond we get crucified
@colewrld9012 ай бұрын
@mamadoubarrie6607 ant talked shit for no reason tho lol nigga said he hasn't watched 90s basketball but commented as if he knows who has skill
@rapgodreloaded92592 ай бұрын
Don't forget about Gary Payton Shawn Kemp Mark Jackson etc
@julioblessedsince082 ай бұрын
Bro said he can't speak on it then proceeds to speak on it
@BiggestBirdonMars2 ай бұрын
Bro that bothered me so much😂😂
@mado36232 ай бұрын
That right there was so damn dumb on his part if that's the case he shouldn't just shut the hell up that destroys his own point ant wild for this one
@dispater1012 ай бұрын
NBA players and fans with their weird ass mentality of degrading the generations that came before them..of course the game is better than before (AND THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE GOAL), but this behavior of needing to downplay the guys who paved the way is insanely lame 😐
@themilkman19422 ай бұрын
tbh it goes both ways the previous generations not admitting that the current generation is obviously more skilled and the current downplaying the prior generations pioneering or game in general
@Carvis232 ай бұрын
They are not more skilled lol they lack basic fundamentals and it's poor basketball we are watching.
@skinnytimmy12 ай бұрын
@@themilkman1942 but they're not more skilled, they just play with different rules, which benefit the offensive player 99% of the time.
@rogelioatempa11152 ай бұрын
@@skinnytimmy1but they are more skilled, especially the average NBA player. The 6th and 7th man on a good nba team from the '80s would be at the end of the bench in todays game.
@SkiLILs2 ай бұрын
@rogelioatempa1115 they're on average weaker and most are unable to play a full season of games.
@whenisdinner21372 ай бұрын
Not more skilled in all areas. They literally don't know how to play in the post at all. It didn't get past on because y'all wanted to look at Curry instead of learning how to play in the goddamn post as a big man. It's these kids fault for not wanting to learn
@dewanewelch17442 ай бұрын
Exactly. I tell people this very often. It's not more skilled it's skilled in different areas.
@toxicmelody62282 ай бұрын
This is exactly why I don't agree with the GOAT debate. Too much context is needed for players who didn't even play against each other. It's GOATS of Eras not out of the whole pool of players.
@Solznmid2 ай бұрын
NBA players have more brain dead takes than NFL players. And their sport literally gives them brain damage 😭
@weplaydk23432 ай бұрын
Mj said the same thing literally
@toxicmelody62282 ай бұрын
@@weplaydk2343 I didnt know that but it makes the most sense. How can you compare two think or more who didn't even face each other at their best, with the same rules, coaches, and players. It doesn't make sense! There's a GOAT of each Era imo instead of their being one singular one above all
@weplaydk23432 ай бұрын
@@toxicmelody6228 people love the idea of GOATS. They are fascinated but as many objective metrics as basketball and sports in generals have, when your talking about eras and its associated chaos next, such as longevity, team situation, lost management etc, the variables are endless and do you will NEVER truly have objective consensus or answer. That said I get why MJ is considered the GOAT most often
@weplaydk23432 ай бұрын
@@toxicmelody6228 people love the idea of GOATS. They are fascinated but as many objective metrics as basketball and sports in generals have, when your talking about eras and its associated context next, such as longevity, team situation, lost management etc, the variables are endless and so you will NEVER truly have objective consensus or answer. That said I get why MJ is considered the GOAT most often
@frankincensemerchant12842 ай бұрын
Low's last point regarding the best modern defenders being bale to thrive in an era of more ohyscial defense is very true. We saw that with Team USA's defense were players like Holiday, Bam, and AD thrived heavily on the defensive side as the extra physicality gave their defense an even bigger boast as opposed to the current NBA rules.
@daelin97592 ай бұрын
The 2000s is easily the best era of basketball. They had everything for everybody. Skill, Physicality, Versatility. The amount of good players with different and unique skillsets was amazing. Today's game is still good but the variety and uniqueness is lacking.
@Herosennin2 ай бұрын
Agree well I'd say 00's and 90's because there is most overlap between both era's too. A lot of them boys that won most the chips in the 00's were players who were in the league before MJ even 3 peated for the second time added that players back then came into the league as 22 year olds sometimes 24, compared to sometimes 19 years old today.
@daelin97592 ай бұрын
@@Herosennin nah the 90s is probably the 4th or 5th best decade/era in nba history.
@brianerisca68222 ай бұрын
Yeah the same 4 teams winning every year was the best era of basketball.. give me a break
@daelin97592 ай бұрын
@@brianerisca6822 that's damn near every era of nba basketball except for like the 70s goofy. Please enlighten me on which era or decade could possibly better than the 2000s other than like 80s?
@rapgodreloaded92592 ай бұрын
Today's players are good but lack imagination and creativity.
@jordan79852 ай бұрын
That’s a good point about how players who are solid defenders now, “could” be even better back in the day. Just like how the older guys who played against some tougher defenses, might have it easier on the end today. At the end of the day, it’s all give-and-take and speculation. You can make a case some of our offensive stars would be better back then or worse, and vice versa. For example, you can say that it’s actually tougher to be a better offensive player today. Why? Because everyone can shoot pass and dribble, that would be a star on the offensive end. You really have to stand out in today’s game. Or you can go reverse way and say players can only shoot passenger so well, because there’s more spacing. These kind of arguments can go on forever to be honest , they’re fun, I just not a fan of when they become disrespectful
@christopherbennett80732 ай бұрын
For real, the rules, officiating, coaching etc. drastically affect player output. My only question is, when can you, if at all, critique or compare players from different eras? Reminds me of the AI vs Harden debate people had a while back. I remember AI getting slighted for being inefficient offensively which may be fair, but lack of floor spacing and legit rim protection can do that.
@skinnytimmy12 ай бұрын
Yea back in that Era ai had to maneuver around 2 7-footers every time he drove.
@christopherbennett80732 ай бұрын
@@skinnytimmy1 Facts. It's hard to score 30 when everything inside is so congested.
@sr_aron2 ай бұрын
@@christopherbennett8073 that’s when you really on your outside shooting. Harden can thrive on the perimeter, and his outside shooting threat opens up the inside by forcing bigs to step up on screens. AI could have done that if he was a better shooter
@christopherbennett80732 ай бұрын
@sr_aron I get that for sure. Harden is a better playmaker in the pick and roll and a better outside shooter, but he also benefitted from defenders being handicapped on the perimeter. They aren't allowed to be as physical or even touch the offensive player, so that helps Harden create the space he needs to get those shot off. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying AI is better or worse than Harden because it's close. I just think it's worth mentioning newer players benefit from the newer style/officiating.
@sr_aron2 ай бұрын
@@christopherbennett8073 The hand checking and touching only matter in isolation play on the perimeter, if the player uses a screen you can’t really keep contact with them
@Tilinfinity422 ай бұрын
You can’t say players are more skilled when they’re playing by different rules and standards.
@urbaindelva78692 ай бұрын
Fair enough, but that's only half of the battle.
@Kidkinsey2 ай бұрын
So in the 2020s and 2030s are people gonna say the players of the 2000s had no skill? We are 10 years away from hearing AI nash Kobe Tmac dirk etc had no skill, this argument is so bad lol
@Trafalgar-D-Water-Law232 ай бұрын
Saying no one has a midrange game today when the most efficient midrange scorers all play today is a little outrageous
@mahamoudabdi64262 ай бұрын
Midrange actually is like 3pts shots it doesn't fit the mentality of the actual NBA. 90's Midrange was necessary to get a place in a roaster so a decent midrange shooter of 90 still better than 80% of actual hoopers in Midrange.
@DonDeDon4452 ай бұрын
Actually that’s why it’s dead. Nearly every player back then either had a midrange or post up game. Only elite players today are even allowed to take midrange shots (besides the floater).
@YangoBord2 ай бұрын
Finally… I’ve been wondering why no one’s said anything about that
@mahri90222 ай бұрын
@@mahamoudabdi6426yeah back then since there was no 3 second rule bigs could stay in the paint making it very difficult to finish so you had to have the ability to knock it down in the midrange. U had to be more versatile with your scoring.
@Trafalgar-D-Water-Law232 ай бұрын
@@DonDeDon445 Well if you go back and watch a lot of those were legit setups for midrange shots just like how you see players get set up for 3s. It wasn’t a midrange game if you’re just spotting up for them those shots are completely pointless.
@Enyalus872 ай бұрын
13:54 If Jason Tatum "was allowed to defend" his offensive production would go down considerably. If Tatum played the kind of minutes the superstars played in previous eras, his efficiency on both ends would go down. And if the NBA schedule were similar to how it was in previous eras, same thing. I think MJ has the same number of back-to-back games as LeBron James, despite playing in over 420 fewer games. Because of scheduling changes. And way back in the day you had games 12 hours apart sometimes. All that's gonna make your legs more tired, and translate into lower production. But it doesn't necessarily mean that the dude shooting 43% playing 40 minutes per night for 82 games against modern zones plus handchecking was "inefficient" or people in previous eras just couldn't shoot. Pace of play is important too. Today's teams get almost 9 possessions more than the teams did in the 01-02 season. So were you going to "waste" a possession by jacking up a contested 3 with 18 seconds left on the shot clock? Hell no.
@Nightmare-we8vm2 ай бұрын
LOW is completely right. Front Office, Coaching, and rules shape the game. I personally believe most great players could adjust to any era. At the end of the day, all of them grew up playing highly competitive ball for their time so it makes no sense to say some ball and others don't.
@sosa85492 ай бұрын
Bird and Magic were definitely skilled. Shit their skillset birthed entire archetypes. The floor and ceiling has gotten higher though.
@demarfearon59962 ай бұрын
Yo Low make a video on Nick young saying Kyrie over curry 🤦🏾♂️
@patrick05Morgan2 ай бұрын
Never seen a role player so ungrateful for getting carried to a ring before 😂
@DietAfro2 ай бұрын
This was a dope video essay. Good work on this
@tdmidas2892 ай бұрын
I used steve Nash like curry in the old 2ks😂
@jlui212 ай бұрын
2x MVP Curry was a 50-40-90 guy one time. Nash? 4x 50-40-90...I get it. Keep on keeping on.
@Jean-c1h2 ай бұрын
@@jlui211 unanimous MVP more all stars and all NBA selections more scoring titles, best shooter all-time, better handle and finishing 4 rings better off ball Player of all time lightskin
@jlui212 ай бұрын
@@Jean-c1h -- lol. Curry is wayyyyy better. I was just pointing out that Nash is unique and powerful in the 2K. 50-40-90 is crazy impressive. It would be interesting to see if Nash had modern (2020s) analytics to show him that he needed to shoot more. Do I think he would have won ONE ring? Maybe. I still think he would have lost to the Spurs even though Amare got suspended a playoff game for getting off the bench during an altercation. That suspension dropped his chances significantly -- from having a 30% of beating the Spurs to 3% chance.
@coolcathowl2 ай бұрын
Lmaoo yo facts
@stevena.67602 ай бұрын
Low man... I need you to sit woth Kenny and talk basktball. Because I think it would be the best basketball talk ever
@dojo21572 ай бұрын
Winning is not relative. Winners will always be winners no matter what era you're talking about. So you can compare players based on winning.
@ScoutsHonor.2 ай бұрын
The late 90’s and early 2000’s was insane iso. It was the ugliest form of basketball to watch. That being said. Tatum would kill.
@Andrew.W.192 ай бұрын
Tatum would get murdered. Can’t even touch players now without getting fouled.
@allengreene99542 ай бұрын
@@Andrew.W.19. I watched the Knicks-Heat Games back then as a Heat Fan. HATED those 6-7 Min Scoring Droughts🤢🤢🤢🤢🗑️🗑️🗑️🗑️
@deLic982 ай бұрын
Barry bonds played against a bunch of un-athletic bums! Tom Brady played against a bunch of un-athletic bums! Wayne Gretzky played against a bunch of un-athletic bums! Hear how dumb I sound?😂
@coolcathowl2 ай бұрын
7:11 is straight facts man. Time and time again i tell my friends "say this era dont say of all time" and it sparks an argument that neither side can come to an agreement on. It makes no sense to constantly compare players from generation to generation cause the game changes significantly what a player in 20 years will be able to accomplish is way different than what todays players accomplish
@KingHampton-ul1iw2 ай бұрын
12:45 Tatum shooting 30% in the finals in 04 lol
@hmmmmmm69012 ай бұрын
😂😂
@legendaryj28242 ай бұрын
20%
@SonicsGuy4Life2 ай бұрын
No fr
@Alex_SD6192 ай бұрын
Whats funny is in 2035 they'll look at these current NBA players the same way, unathelic and scrubs 😂😂😂😂
@kidmelo19942 ай бұрын
Low cooking . I agree 100%
@CSmoothh2 ай бұрын
15:09 Elite players definitely had the ball at the top of the key and were able create
@glyle25042 ай бұрын
The ignorance of today’s players and media are a result of the bitterness of yesterday’s guys. And that to me is the reason why basketball discourse is so bad. It’s so individualistic and nobody wants to admit anybody is better-especially anybody from another era. And it leads to a lack of appreciation of the game.
@dojo21572 ай бұрын
How is it that players now are more skilled? Players have always been skilled. Always. Players now are not more skilled. They have more benefits. Not more skill.
@jameswong70612 ай бұрын
and they are trained to buy foul..... and they call that a skill......, standing still crying to ref...... gve up the play......harden, luka...the list goes on.... back in days, the art of skill is created from ur talent, now the new generation create art of skill from their shameless, even the HD camera is all around them. they bluffing something they yet to achieve, some even failed to achieve, they speaks shamelessly......
@jerryspringer33432 ай бұрын
Rosters are deeper
@LargeDude20232 ай бұрын
Edwards was regurgitating LeMedia/Klutch sports talking points. This is something no one wants to talk about. He didn't get this out of thin air.
@26Isoken2 ай бұрын
You dudes are weird.
@leplay79612 ай бұрын
Dude made it about lebron 😂😂😂😂
@Xuysc2 ай бұрын
When in doubt just blame lebron 😭
@duck00232 ай бұрын
HOW TF DID U MAKE THIS ABOUT LEBRON??????????
@LargeDude20232 ай бұрын
@@duck0023 I didn’t; he did MF
@monwright40322 ай бұрын
So if a player is able to be physical playing defense, is that considered a skill⁉️
@MindfulAttraction2.02 ай бұрын
Skills are just more specialized. Back then you develop your skills and it put you on the court. Nowadays, they develop your skills specifically for certain spots. But people back then just had a different skill set. It's not that they didn't have skills. It was just different. In fact, the skills today are more appealing to the eye because it was on purpose. Just because it's more appealing to the eye, it doesn't mean it's better
@Nikketmzee2 ай бұрын
The best way too look at it is that there’s no denying that the vast majority of players are more athletic, but we also can’t deny that other attributes like ball IQ and the mid range, have gone down tremendously, so in all we could call it a wash.
@sihd2252 ай бұрын
if you think about it, more physicality takes up for the skill gap of the past i think todays game is scrutinized for elevating flash flair and grooming excitement from casual fans i think we should be comparing the worst players of generations to really bring the point home that generally players of today are far more skilled but i will say they're worse teammates 14:05
@mr.getrighhttt34332 ай бұрын
You literally don't know what skill is if you think pick and roll and 3 point shooting for every team is more skilled than what we have seen in the past. Every team plays damn near the same way in today's game. You're delusional.
@DavidTheDeveloper2 ай бұрын
Exactly what I said. Players today are just more skilled in other ways. Posting up and playing down low is a lost skill in today’s game.
@nateSF0842 ай бұрын
I knew skill vs IQ/Efficiency was a thing when Boston had a 1-5 lineup of 6’5 and up and they shot 40 threes a game in the finals and if you break it down in math if they took away let’s say 10-15 3pt attempts and simply drove the basketball they would actually score even more points and be even more dominant but yk 😂😂
@Carvis232 ай бұрын
Exactly. Just poor basketball but they want us to believe this era superior. Smh
@dewanewelch17442 ай бұрын
Exactly and I am a diehard Celtics fan.
@sjw4life5462 ай бұрын
Inaccurate and loudly ignorant. A deadly two-way combination
@urbaindelva78692 ай бұрын
You brought up a valid point that I believe has not even been considered. How do we know that certain players from today or back then would even have the same ROLES in different eras? Hell, LeBron has basically been a number one option as a point forward throughout his entire career, but he might have been used as a second or third option back then. Iverson was a number one option as a 6 ft scoring guard back then, but he might have a lesser role now. Giannis is used as a number one option now, but he might have been used as a traditional big back then. It really depends on what team they would be on and what role would need to be fulfilled for that team. LG and Paul made a lot of good pooints, but Paul was wrong about the midrange. It's not as prevalent as it used to be, but a lot of players still use it as a large part of their game. KD, Kawhi, Book, PG, Ant, Shai, Luka, Embiid, Kyrie, Jaylen Brown, and Khris Middleton are all players who I can think of when it comes to midrange in the current game.
@chrisdwellingham53202 ай бұрын
The issue with saying players are more skilled is that we can watch the game and see all the offensive violations theyre allowed to make legally compared to back then. Theyre carry merchants.
@kendricbaines24152 ай бұрын
But come on, we know how Ant talks. He spoke in a generalization but he didn’t mean NOBODY. From his standpoint the player that lead the modern era of skill is Jordan, that blueprint. Nobody was playing on the same skill level as Jordan. And the other hall of famers he already respects and knows are great. He’s not talking about them. He means the average player in those eras vs the average player in this era. And he’s right, everyone now has a certain skill set and athleticism. They were tough back then because of what was allowed, but the skill level is different so who knows what is better or not. You guys just reading it and not listening to how he said it.
@Kalinbuggs2 ай бұрын
You can’t say “we done with the 00s”😂😂😂 naw that era was TUFF FR FR
@deehill67192 ай бұрын
I agree with alot of what KG and pierce said but I don’t agree with him saying ppl in this generation can’t play back then the reason players today have to be so creative with drivbling and getting passed defenders is because the simple moves don’t work as often anymore a small one two crossover isn’t getting you to the lane anymore like deron williams or AI you have to combine different moves and play on angles and leverage not say back then they was sorry they just wasn’t doing it like this
@RJ_Focused2 ай бұрын
I don’t see a lot of skill employment today. I see a lot of 3 and Ds. I don’t see much adaptability when a player’s 3 isn’t falling. Also, I don’t see about of players about be in a half court set, beat a player off the dribble, and baseline dunk.
@no-curry6812 ай бұрын
After he said he barely watched.......Everything went through one ear and out the other
@dewanewelch17442 ай бұрын
I kegit had to pause the vid to say this. THANK YOU!!!! You have finally come to understand coaching and freedom either helps or holds people back. When i hear people say they could not shoot from range in the 90s im like are you crazy!!! Guys like Miller, Marjle, Curry, Rice, Ellis, etc had crazy rangle. Miller is a prime exmaple. Brown baerly even let him shoot. If he shot a 30 footer and it went in guess what? Wwlcome to the bench. Lol Kerr even admitted he cringes everytime Curry and Klay took crazy shots but he saw Jackson vision in letting them fly. No era is better than another. Just better in different phases.
@cruisernatn32 ай бұрын
Great break down low very objective big dawg!!!
@Dolo4Sure2 ай бұрын
I would like to see you debate dreamerspro on this topic. I really like what you said about the previous generation passing along their knowledge of the game. Basketball seems to be the only sport in the world where the old generation constantly puts down the next generation. It’s been happening since the 80s. It’s only now you see the current generation responding. Also Giannis is a great example of why the skill has improved. I never saw this growing up in the 80s.
@Carvis232 ай бұрын
David Robinson > Giannis. He could handle the ball just like Giannis but had a better shot. I don't see Chris Webber, Derrick Coleman etc. In today's game.
@bubblefluke2 ай бұрын
people do that in all sports, not only basketball
@Dolo4Sure2 ай бұрын
@@Carvis23 i don’t recall Robinson bringing the ball up the floor or beating defenders off the dribble from behind the arch.
@Carvis232 ай бұрын
@Dolo4Sure And that's the problem, go back and watch the games. Matter fact go back and watch highlights. David Robinson handle was even tighter and he was quicker. Anyone who watched the 80s and 90s knows this. Smh
@SkillBorne2 ай бұрын
Great video Low👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@celestialdemon13162 ай бұрын
I love how, while I agree with his assessment, D'Antoni uses numbers that don't support his point. 33% from 3 is not better than 50% from 2. But most players strive to shoot closer to 40% from 3, which is much better.
@TJ-fu5kr2 ай бұрын
I loved 90's ball but Garnett and other old heads who say current players couldn't handle the old school "physicality" is crazy to me. Yes the game was different back then but the idea that current WORLD CLASS athletes wouldnt be able to adjust to a different style of play is just silly. Of course they could. They'd simply adapt their game.
@XeroTheLegend2 ай бұрын
AI is a great example of how rules affect a players performance. The amount of calls he had against him was just insane
@JaeCoIe2 ай бұрын
12:58 ngl low kinda hit that side step too smooth😂😂
@lntprod2 ай бұрын
bruh low ur easily the best and most unbasis nba analyst on yt with bsolz i been rocking with yall since i was like 14/15 im 23 now u have a better basketball mind then any mf on tv or inna media omm and thats coming from a un basis ass person i believe my self to be
@ZayWay94Ай бұрын
This is a really good breakdown. Respect
@KClouisville2 ай бұрын
What is going into the default statement that players are "more skilled today"? I hear people say that all the time, but when it comes down to it, I think it's basically: the ball-handling is better (and more bigs can ball handle) and the 3 point shooting is better. As to the first one, yes, more guys can handle the ball nowadays. The role of "big men" has changed drastically. So "bigs" in the league now have grown up handling the ball more. However, as to ball-handling in general...with guards especially....I'd argue that they really aren't more "skilled" than guards of the past....I'd argue that the way the game is officiated they get an extra step much more often and, even more important, they're allowed to CONSTANTLY CARRY THE BALL. If you picked out an average point guard from, say, 1985, and let him palm and carry the ball he's going to look and execute a lot better as a ball handler. The 3 point shooting is just a change in emphasis, as he points out in this video. If the game emphasizes the 3 point shot in the early '80s, more guys would have been better 3 point shooters in a couple of years. But to contrast: throw one of the good teams in the NBA now into, say, one of those Boston-Philadelphia slugfests from the early to mid '80s in the Eastern Conference playoffs. The physicality and type of defense played would have modern guys shook. And they'd better be hitting their 3's at a super high rate, because they' be getting decimated in the post.
@rickwild2 ай бұрын
I started watching basketball as a kid in 1991. And Its a fact that guards/small forwards today have more skill and athletism than yesteryears. HOWEVER, the trade off is that the power forwards and centers have gotten much, much worse. Jokic and embiid are dominating the NBA and neither are a top 5 all-time center.
@carlosgettis2 ай бұрын
It’s fine to say todays players are more skilled but to sit here and say it was very few players back then that where skilled is the issue
@xXSonTJXx2 ай бұрын
You know if anyone else said that people would crashout and call him hating lol especially if that individual runs very fast
@Javi2105822 ай бұрын
imagine Allen Iverson or MJ or Magic if they could travel and carry like crazy, that would make them like gods, i understand they are more skilled now, but they look a lot more skilled because they do a bunch of shit that had a whistle before
@1227weaverb2 ай бұрын
Iverson carried all the time. Go look up Tim Hardaway Sr calling Iverson’s crossover a carry. Y’all are always over exaggerating the carrying and traveling that modern guys do when the early 2000’s was highly influenced by And 1. White Chocolate, Steve Francis and others were out here getting away with plenty of things
@gregyyypooh2 ай бұрын
“I don’t respond to a guy that never won a championship” i quite literally almost spit out half my food
@gregyyypooh2 ай бұрын
Although I disagree that was funny 🙈
@treymatthews33532 ай бұрын
This is why I’ve never understood why people take some NBA players word as law. A lot of these guys whether they’re current or retired are just straight up ignorant and have no clue what they’re talking about.
@rodneybrydson81872 ай бұрын
All I can think is that you shouldn't piss on the people who's shoulders you are standing on.
@315giants2 ай бұрын
in the Olympics where the floor is shrunken hand checking is allowed physicality is allowed 94 ft pick up all which bball was in jordans era kobes era n 80s era we seen what happened to ant especially in the serbia game dude was a non factor
@deonceruti2 ай бұрын
I look at it like cars and how Gilbert arenas said it . Yes those guys back then were Ferrari’s but that top speed might be only 160 but the Ferrari’s of today push 260 . Both are great cars of its time but the times have changed .
@magnusliang41832 ай бұрын
Times changed.. As an old head I prefer the bigs banging in the post but hey you either adapt to the times or stop watching
@MaxiYaps2 ай бұрын
I think the difference is current NBA players have the freedom to display more skills. More spacing now, the league favors offense, less restrictions on dribbling, moving screens to free up ball handlers, foul baiting, etc. I agree most players now are more skilled offensively. But these skilled players just played in the olympics with no foul baiting, no 3 second rule for the defense and what happened? We won, but we beat South Sudan by 1, Curry saved us in the gold medal game. And in the Bronze game vs Serbia, they were up 10 with 5 mins left in the game when a foul on AD occured, then KD hit a 3. They gave KD the 3, then Booker immediatly hit a 3 off the inbound. Now its a 4 pt lead. Earlier in this game Serbia was up 14 at half. Put dudes from the 90s in todays game and they will look more skilled. Put a current NBA player in a less offensive setting like the olympics, they will not struggle, but look less skilled. The current players are more skilled, but the league and style of play is the main reason it appears that way.
@TheSpawnTrapper2 ай бұрын
I've always said that players now can shoot better than they could in the 90's and 2000's but I think the fundamentals are worse overall. Passing, Rebounding, and playing Defense but to be fair Defense is much harder to play in general so I think those issues compound. Jokic is a prime example of this, despite his lack of athleticism he is still dominant because he is so versatile especially at his size. He is kind of this era's Tim Duncan but with a 3 point shot but I'd take Duncan defensively. Tim Duncan was never really considered to be the best player in the NBA at any point in his career but a lot of people think Jokic is the best player in the league now.
@collarbone50182 ай бұрын
Lack of imagination??? What about the lack of freedom of movement because of the rules??? 🤷🏽♂️ Bring back the rules back then, bring back the physicality. Let's see how skilled the players are today.
@temiadeyinka36752 ай бұрын
Low calling people oldheads is crazy because bro is almost at that point of his life we’re he’s about to become a old head
@candlestick62942 ай бұрын
You ever think the reason the game is less “creative” today is because the skill has increased the exact reason why you you can do creative plays vs your little brother but when you play somone your age/skill you lock in
@Mr_Big_Head2 ай бұрын
People that say 3 pointers are more efficient don’t understand basketball. Banging in the paint will always be more efficient because you not only are shooting a higher percentage shot. You are also more likely to draw fouls which means free throws. It also means you can get the other team in foul trouble and you will also get on average more rebounds and put backs. The 1 chip lebron got with the lakers is because they had 3 big men owning the paint and destroyed teams on the boards, free throws, put backs and blocks.
@AnticipateCE2 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say “better” just different times & different rules some of the shit players do today would of got benched in 80’s & the 90’s
@stoopconvo29242 ай бұрын
LOL ..Damn KG is a big Vice Lord 🖐🏽⭐️
@CJ-vh2hf2 ай бұрын
No old heads opened anything up, we were always respectful, and unlike now when we had players in our era that we felt that were great and the newer players came along we never put down the players that came before them that’s disrespectful and that’s what they do today! You really understand the game of basketball you would understand why people from earlier generations talk this way because it’s the path of less resistance if these players are able to do things without having to go through the gauntlet like they could even compare?
@jamalrashard90912 ай бұрын
The NBA as a business is the reason why American basketball is played the way it is today.
@TheGr8SageSama2 ай бұрын
Ant was talking about people at the 2 guard because that's his position not everyone at all positions.
@blmafflck31052 ай бұрын
13:30 Always drop this one in Era Talk
@legendarywiimaster2 ай бұрын
If players back then would be better on offense because today’s game favors it, then apply that logic the other way around. Those players from back then would be worse on defense
@jwalk312 ай бұрын
Us old heads really don't dispute the skill level, we just have a problem saying it doesn't help you win. Plus you can pass along all the skill and wisdom you want to the next generation, if they don't listen to you and want to do their own thing, or disrespect what came before them and ignore the advice, we can't do anything about that. Take hip hop. A lot of oldheads wanted to open this generation's eyes to the past and show them what's up, and a lot of these new rappers could care less. Where in my generation, they actually listened to the first generation of rappers, who were... basic. 90's rap was way better than the 70's and early 80's rappera, but they still respected them. Yeah, but if they want to just show off their elite skill, hesi, tween, behind the back step back.... fine. But ask James Harden how those skills are doing for him.
@mentalcow2 ай бұрын
When it comes to the idea of dropping players from different generations of basketball into the other, any above average player from either time dropped in with time to train and practice the different game. They would be completely fine. It just is silly to act like these talented competitive players would just have 0 chance of adapting and that goes for both the disrespect of old players and new.
@icertifiedjosh64882 ай бұрын
The way he acts like Tatum can’t handle the ball and facilitate is crazy. He was practically the PG for the Celtics led them in assists and initiated the offense most of the time
@Ray-c1r2 ай бұрын
90s would wipe the floor w todays teams
@michaelcore97152 ай бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t use the Gilbert arenas clip cuz for once I find Gil explained it perfectly
@mellomoose_2 ай бұрын
his ego dont need anymore gas lmao
@MrSlashblade2 ай бұрын
I’m not feeling this, seems like just heavy caping for the 00s. You practically said nba players of the 00s could pretty much gain the skills needed through time, and yes guys like Kobe and Duncan are examples (though I feel like it’s more exceptions then norms) just to say a guy like Tatum would struggle with less floor spacing. And while you are right about the creativity not being as prevalent there’s a glaring issue you are overseeing which is many of the norms today would be the creative of yesteryear. Defenses would not know how to deal with a guy like Tatum in the same way the entire nba got scared stiff when KD first arrived and became the youngest scoring champion. Jokic would be an anomaly where his playmaking would be too much for a coach to ignore and his ability to stretch the floor while being a tough shot maker would be hellacious to the 00s. The 00s had problems solving Sheed and he really only had the mid range and a bit of a 3 point game. Let’s not even get to the final form that was Dirk who won mvp with just scoring similar to Jokic, now we are adding almsot Kidd like passes to Dirk? How do you as a 2000 defense prepare for that? Even guy like Shai who is more 00s compared to his peers but compared to the competition it’s night and day. And Luka? That era could barely even figure out LeBron without a jumpshot or wade without a jumpshot, or if they’re too athletic for you kidd without a jumpshot now you strap that to them? We can’t say creativity creativity when what was creative then is normal now
@worldzworstgamer65392 ай бұрын
When people saw Kobe they said he’s like Mike but people weren’t like omg lmao
@dreamer28872 ай бұрын
Bruh you gotta expose Gil again bruh dose shits be funny asl 😂😂
@chocolatethunder3892 ай бұрын
Real shit great video
@rangerheir58212 ай бұрын
Man...if South Sudan won that olympic game, (U.S. won by one point) newheads would be thinking it was wizardry. The thing alot of people mess up when talking about basketball is, they start with glorifying the bad logic and not talk enough about the good logic. That's why newheads always seem to leave out the balances. Example: Kwame Brown could play shutdown defense on Shaq, it's here on youtube if you wanna be that guy. See there is levels to this but also there is a stopping point of LEVELS to this; Think of it as: extremes, balances, and passives. People try so hard to glorify or bash extremes (making it seem/pedesataling players like wemby as the best big in the nba, when in reality, he, and to an extent, stephen curry, can just as equally be seen as highlights, not TWIGHLIGHTS of the times, records are meant to be broken), to where they forget basketball is more about balance than it is extremes. The reason I also mentioned stephen curry is, with players like him, there's on you like a dime players that can guard him in the past than there is now you could even argue. (Tony Allen, yes the list does go on...) A true basketball player is someone with balance, or balance specifically for their position. Someone like Hakeem Olajuwon or Magic Johnson. It's not at all bad to have extremes in a player, but you guys take it too far and that's why this new era is so interested in less defense, more 3's, and faster offense. Example: what happens to the unbalance side of a seasaw. It falls downward. Better example: Extremes in basketball=very good or very bad, but also can be used against itself regardless. Balance in basketball=very good or just average, but cannot be taken advantage of as much at all. Call it crazy but I don't see Wemby as generational, I see him as the lesser 7'1-7'4 bigs of NBA history who could also shoot the 3 and so on; Ralph Sampson, ect. Some may question why manute bol wasn't better than he was but you have to realize that at that height, regardless of weight, the body slows and breaks down physically and over time alot faster than someone of lesser height. Given this, there's the few people that try to glorify the really small players, and make them out like they're better; See, is it more about the player, or is it more about your flawed glorification or perspective about basketball - Guards, Forwards, and Bigs alike? People put their hand in an ant nest too much in trying to justify bad, positionless, or highlight basketball. Good basketball are teams like the 2004 pistons, 2005 spurs, and 90's bulls, where plays and everything else have more meaning and a balance rather than haste from the game pace, while still maintaining balanced extremes. You can say whatever you want but in my opinion, the newer era are lesser basketball players compared to the older era. Remember, its not just about offense, like you nimrods make it out to be, but about defense too, and the older eras annihilate this newer era in that objectively. If you do wish to comment against me, great; but do not bring your context beyond rational sense in order to be a troll. I believe what I'd said has valid reason throughout all eras and any form of basketball in its purest form. These same principles apply to the reality of life brothers and sisters.
@joshliggins-lk8gj2 ай бұрын
the showman argument was kinda crazy, we got kyrie,steph,lebron,antman,giannis,joker.yall had magic and jason williams. i will say we dont have as many flashy passers but our players overall more flashy.
@X02Overdose2 ай бұрын
What exactly do you mean in terms of flash? Cuz this list of players is kinda crazy lol
@joshliggins-lk8gj2 ай бұрын
@@X02Overdose dazzling handles,difficult shots,amazing dunks and flashy passes. also hyping the crowd as A bonus.
@X02Overdose2 ай бұрын
@@joshliggins-lk8gj There were plenty of players that had those attributes in the 80s, 90s/00s
@Tjaybndz2 ай бұрын
This one of your best videos
@destinedforgreatness30302 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say players back then wasn’t skilled more I just think players now are more skilled and evolved the game more but I think players back then had skill it’s hard to compare stuff they was skilled for they time tho
@JtheLionheart2 ай бұрын
Put a name on these players. Who is the average player today and in which way are they more skilled than the average player "back then"
@goofy_xf62232 ай бұрын
Great video. You’re not some closed minded Lebron fanboy who tries to discredit the past so Lebron can be anointed the goat for losing. Context within eras makes sense. It really goes for all sports. People think babe Ruth couldn’t hit in the MLB today but they seem to believe pitchers didn’t throw as hard as they do today without taking in the context that a lot of pitchers may throw hard af but only got 1 - 2 pitches at times. Football is honestly a different subject tho because I feel like if you took guys like Dan Marino and Shannon Sharpe and put them in todays NFL they’d destroy the league but guys today wouldn’t last as long in the past due to rules and how much the game has changed. When you actually look at some highlight reels of how hard they used to hit people in the NFL it makes sense why they’re trying to make the game safer. Especially when it’s causing brain deterioration that’s only identified after death. This was a good take on a subject that’s extremely stupid