ANTIQUE WALKER TURNER DRILL PRESS

Join me as I examine & analyze this 90 year old drill press by WALKER TURNER.
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[@soanophil]

awesome little drill press. I have a couple old Walker Turner "Driver Line " tools. That drill press is in the 1932 Sears "Electrical Power Tool and Shop Equipment" Catalog, price was $12.25 with no motor and $23.25 with a motor. Its their new improved version form the 1931 model, should have a 1/3 hp motor and there is a optional straight mount for the motor to move it behind the head.

[@mrpete222]

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[@tjr4744]

It works ... The home garage handyman would have been thrilled to have it in the 30's i'm sure. Hooray for the BO and PR era's.

[@erickvond6825]

You know I'd actually kind of like to see this particular machine restored. Maybe even with graduated pullies on the motor. I had one a long time ago. I got it used back in the 80's and it worked pretty well. Having a smaller pully on the motor made sense because some times it's nice to have a lower speed. I used to work on old electronics and that drill press was great for drilling circuit boards where as if you put too much pressure on the bit you'd either break it or rip the board to shreds. The sensitivity of that press was fantastic. I did actually modify mine to take ball bearings which made it run a lot smother. I wound up putting a newer Baldor motor on it too which gave it a bit more low speed torque. I miss it when I go to build a new project these days. I have to rely on a Dremel which gets the job done. It's just not as nice.

[@mrpete222]

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[@edl5074]

Great look at what used to be when like you said personal responsibility. Thanks mr pete !!!

[@peteengard9966]

A nice old drill press. Worthy of a restoration. Thank you Mr Pete.

[@DonDegidio]

Hi Lyle, I had a 1960 Corvair and you are correct about the belt for the cooling fan jumping off the pulleys. What I liked about that Corvair was not getting stuck in the snow with studded snow tires. It also has a gas fired heater, so didn't need to have the engine running for heat. It had a 3 speed manual transmission, but a heck of a cable system to operate the throw out bearing. I had to remove the engine several times to work on that cable system. I was so adept at removing the engine, that once on the jack stands, I could have the engine out from under the car in 15 minutes. They used 1/8" wire cable for the clutch that kept stretching, so I replaced it with 5/32" cable that just fit on the pulleys. That did solve the problem and didn't need to remove the engine but it was hit while parked and totalled. You and the family stay safe.

[@mrpete222]

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[@paulhunt598]

My 65 VW bug has similar, different oddities. I was a too inexperienced mechanic then to do the major work that it required. It was a quintessential hippie ride

[@ellieprice363]

What a neat story of your 15 minute engine drop and cable upgrade. Proof if you do something often enough you’ll get very good at it. I once got in a race with a Corvair with my new Datsun 510. I’d heard that the Corvair was unstable and sure enough I watched him almost lose it in my rear view mirror when it wiggled and threatened to swap ends on him. That stretch of I-77 was almost new back then with little traffic but still it was dangerous at almost 100mph. I barely beat him but I could have caused a wreck. Did some crazy things back then. Shame on me!

[@robert574]

I had a 1960 model B Corvair. That gasoline heater in the trunk was great when it worked, but mine started having problems and wouldn't ignite when you first turned it on. When you turned it off and back on, there was a loud blast out its exhaust under the car then you could hear it flame up. People were always looking for those heaters to put in another car or truck. The fan on the top the engine would get out of balance and shake the whole top plate on the block loose then sling oil everywhere including the belt. It should have been pinned or something so it couldn't move. You had to constantly tighten the bolts (and add more oil).

[@warrenlee3113]

Great video Mr Pete. That small drill press is cool

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Thanks for sharing old drill press Mr Pete

[@robertwalker7457]

Love these old machines thanks.

[@johnquinn3899]

First I’ve heard of a “greaser” Mr Pete. A very interesting piece of equipment !! Goes very well with your video on sharpening drill bits. John

[@leeroyholloway4277]

I like the old cast machines, especially the smaller ones. They have great design and style and it doesn't take a Herculean effort to restore one if that's your thing. Thanks for sharing as always.

[@yomama5785]

Worth a restoration! New bearings, adjust all, clean and paint.

[@Ed_Stoddard]

I learned something new about older machinery. The greaser knobs. I will look for those on machines at auctions and sales. Thanks.

[@mrpete222]

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[@janderson8401]

I have a more modern Walker-Turner drill press, the motor is level with the pulleys in front. Originally the belt guard was just the half circle like on your machine. A previous owner made a cage out of 1/2” hardware cloth as a DIY continuous belt guard. One of my mentors in the trades was Rod M. who started his own sheet metal company in 1938. Rod told me several cautionary stories of terrible work place accidents that he witnessed back in the 30s & 40s. Even though our modern machines and tools, I was convinced of the need to be careful around tools and machines.

[@mrpete222]

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[@richardoleson7934]

Dang! That's a nice drill press. I especially like the long depth of throw. I hope it finds a good home after uou've finished with it.

[@MrUtubeobia]

I have one very similar that I use frequently. It was my dads. Probably 1950’s vintage.

[@charlesthomas1142]

I have two Driver Line tools, a 4” joiner and a small wood lathe. The joiner is modest but very nice to use, quite a lovely tool. The lathe has a “weird” headstock arrangement, makes me think I’m missing one or more parts. Enjoyed seeing the drill press.

[@mrpete222]

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[@Duckfarmer27]

Lyle - Good video. I recognize that grease cup setup. My jig saw is a Walker-Turner and has the exact same brass cap for greasing the sliding shaft in the head. The saw came out of the local high school shop over 40 years ago. I'll agree with the 30s - the old high school was built in 1938-39 and my Dad was in the first graduating class in 1940. Funny that my wife and I were in the last graduating class from the school in 1966. Saw still works great and the motor is tagged as W-T Driver Line with a neat logo. Have a good weekend.

[@dustyduds3953]

I really like that drill press. On another topic, I am anxiously awaiting part 2 of the raft trip!!!!!

[@mrpete222]

I have been procrastinating, because no one watched the first part

[@trollforge]

Yes Lyle, you were correct. The Driver Line was Walker Turner's home shop line, started in 1933 if I recall correctly. I have some PDFs of sales material if you would like me to email you.

[@gkeyman565]

Nice old drill press, add a large base board and it would be stable. Have a great day

[@Garth2011]

Not bad for a table top drill press. I would think the motor could use some bearings/bushings replaced and the pully's could too as well. It sounds like it needs them especially when the power is turned off, it doesn't coast at all. It is completely safe to use as long as you and those in the same room aren't stupid and clumsy.

[@ssboot5663]

Nice old drill!

[@richardrogers567]

Can't help liking the simple design.

[@aaronclark5780]

Anytime Mr. Pete says "you probably already know" I end up learning something new.

[@tom87pate]

I have a Canedy-Otto or a South Bend (it's unmarked) that's about that size. It's a beautiful little cast iron press with lots of curves and uses a flat belt. I think it's from the 1920s, but I don't know much about it other that it looks like a very old Canedy-Otto or South Bend. I use it quite often.

[@mrpete222]

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[@garychaiken808]

Great job. Thank you 😊

[@kevinkoepke8311]

Very odd design compared to now. Guess that's why I like old tools. Thanks, Mr Pete!

[@LarryBlowers]

That would be a sweet upgrade to someone who either only has a Chinese bench drill press or no drill press, sure would be neat on my bench after a quick paint and tune-up!

[@kennethomeara9848]

Very neat old machine. Thank you for sharing.

[@markhuebner5631]

I like it, now ill be looking for one!!!

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@be007]

it sounds really nice mrpete 🙂 cheers ben

[@daver425]

Very cool! My dad had one of those drill presses. I have it now. It's a really good drill press. for its size. And the sound of it running always makes me think of my dad.

[@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519]

Love them I got one and a legs one

[@craigmusgrave280]

Great stuff 👍

[@FliesLikeABrick]

I have this exact machine sitting in my shop and it needs new home (along with another sensitive drill press), I do think it was neat but realized I can't justify keeping it!

[@markmossinghoff8185]

How much do you want for it?

[@bobmazzi7435]

@@markmossinghoff8185 More importantly, where is it located?

[@robert574]

Went up Pike's Peak, CO in 1961 in a Corvair with 5 of us kids and my parents. Not enough air to run or cool the engine, stopped every 20 min for a cool down (car and us). We were on a 2-week vacation staying in campgrounds in a tent, really eating high on the hog that year. Met some cousins in CA that were right out of Eddie's family in Chevy Chase's Vacation. The oldest boy carried a box of dog biscuits he ate all the time. His dad, my uncle, gave me a large Mexican coin he claimed to have carried for luck for 25 yrs, later I noticed the date was only 8 yrs old. We were a poor as church mice though, you didn't need to try to impress us, just put out your hand.

[@mrpete222]

That’s a good story. We went up pikes Peak the year after I was married and a 66 Chevy Impala I do not remember any problem whatsoever. it was so cold up there I didn’t want to get out of the car. We were certainly on a budget as well. We camped in a tent

[@robert574]

@@mrpete222 One trip, I was at the top with my video camera panning around with the mountains in the distance and came around to that red cog train parked on the tracks. There's a guy out on the end of the old tracks where the mountain has caved away, bouncing up and down on the last tie with the whole thing going up and down like a diving board. That tie is nailed on from the bottom. I thought for sure he was going to do a Wile E. Coyote stomping on it as it fell from the mountain. I guess he'd realize at some point it wasn't attached anymore.

[@preachintime-odbc-pcola5376]

I have a table top drill press I got when an uncle died. I has a bracket that you put a hand held electric drill into. once you clamp it in then you can use it like any other drill press. It is light duty for small things only. My uncle work with electronics for Navy satellites. He was a Ham radio operator and spent many hour down in his basement tinkering. I will try to get it out of where I have it stored and send you some pictures of it. Thanks for your good work. Please keep it up.

[@bulldawg6259]

My friend Buba has one like that. He only has three fingers on his right hand

[@alro2434]

Thanks. Sure could use a ground wire! Also, any guess why's the motor mounted so low if it had to be bolted down anyway & then wouldn't have minded being top-heavy?

[@57WillysCJ]

Nice old machine. By the time OSHA came around they were no more as Rockwell bought the company and closed the factory in 1957. I know there seems to be a lot of hate for the program but I worked in a couple of places that didn't follow the rules. Not much more than sweat shops. Not great places and Ii found other work. It's even funnier that small places not under the program complain the most.

[@ellieprice363]

I saw a man lose his hand in early 1960s on a foot operated punch press. Double hand operated push button switches were soon required by law on all punch presses.

[@keithschwartz7318]

I hope I am around and still working as long as the drill press has. Have a good week.

[@mrpete222]

I hope so too!

[@johncloar1692]

Over all a neat machine. Thanks Mr. Pete for the video. Always a thumps up from me.

[@briantaylor9266]

Nice machine! Thanks for sharing it with us. Do I see a restoration video in our future? Clean-up, new belt, electrical rehab, maybe even some new sleeve bearings. That would be fun.

[@nottoday62]

Brian from Ma.Great video my sensitive drill press thow smaller same belt system I am trying to mount motor in an eye appealing and functional way .Anywho I got letter I will cherish contents for ever .im happy my motor will work out it is a pentagrafe motor with a cute little toggle switch built-in .Hope all is well Besafe

[@mrpete222]

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[@dannyl2598]

Thanks Mr Pete. I saw one like that in an antique shop recently, after you got that one. It had been cobbled together and freshly painted. It was mounted on a long board that extended out in front to help with the tipping. The motor was odd and looked like it was from the turn of the century. According to the badge on the motor, it was off of some kind of pain equipment. There was a name painted on the forehead of the drill press, it wasn't completely readable. I tried to make it say "Cameron" but it wasn't that.

[@aceroadholder2185]

Run over to Harbor Freight and get the A sized link belt they have in stock. Spend an afternoon and clean the poor thing up and it will be good for another 90 years.

[@rickhand8228]

I take it this drill press is not of the same quality as your other two sensitive drill presses? Another great video!

[@samparis5096]

Wow, what an interesting machine. The greasers are interesting, I had no idea that such things existed. Was there any kind of external indication that they needed refilling? I'm afraid that if I ever owned such a thing, it was lose any collector value by virtue of all of the modification I would make. That switch would get moved for sure.

[@bobmazzi7435]

That switch is already a modern nightmare. So, no harm in fixing that. What it probably had was a toggle in a tiny sheet metal box directly on the motor. But, I'm also not convinced that that's the right motor. What I'd probably do is tilt the motor 45 degrees clockwise so the switch was clear of the belts to the right. Then put on a new box with just a switch. That with a new power cord would make it usable safely. And, the oil feeds would still work. The only real excuse for having an outlet there as well would be for a light, or a hookup for a shop vac to clear chips. So, I'm confused that the prior owner set it up that way.

[@alro2434]

Just by looks, that they were wound all the way down & stopped.

[@YouShouldThink4Yourself]

I need a chuck key for my keyless chuck! I've got one that's almost impossible to release without a pair of vice grips.

[@bobmazzi7435]

I have a W/T a few years newer and the next size up. They are nice and desirable machines. This example could shine with just a little work. By the sound of it, there is what's left of a ball bearing in there somewhere. The quill greaser might be for the vertical motion and there are bearings in there for example. Or, perhaps in the motor. And I note oil fittings on the motor. But, a new belt, some elbow grease to clean off the surface rust and that little gem could shine again. But, yours is almost certainly prewar. W/T went through some mergers and takeovers in that era so it is complex. But you should be able to narrow down production fairly closely. That second speed might be as simple as stretching the belt towards the other pulley and then rotating it by hand.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@ellieprice363]

I wonder if a segmented belt might work and make changing speeds easier?

[@angelramos-2005]

Good drill press,mrpete.Thank you.

[@Je.Suis.Flaneur]

Thanks for the Mitutoyo short. This press needs a man of common sense to be it's operator. So, Mr. Pete, best you put it on a shelf as a display of what OSHA does not want you to use. LOL.

[@Radiotexas]

Nice Mr. Pete. I have the Walker-Turner jig saw which I restored. For their day, these were good tools for the home shop.

[@davidsmyth5770]

Beautiful old drill press. Love it! I would have bought that in a heart beat. I have a real old hand crank drill press that the only identification on it is 'Model 105". Nothing else. When I was stationed in South Dakota with the Air Force, my wife and I stopped at a museum that had a wall of my style of drill presses. They didn't have a 105, they had from Model 101 to 104, then 106 to 110. There was a space for the 105. When I told the owner that I had the 105, he offered me $2,000 sight unseen. This was in 1978 and that was a lot of money for a young serviceman. If it was not a family heirloom that has been handed down and was initially own by my wife's Grandfather "Isadore" it would have stayed in South Dakota when I was transferred east. Still have it and all the parts except the mount for the shaft to be bolted on a wall. It and my 1939 Craftsman/Atlas metal lathe from him also will stay in the family forever. MSgt David R. Smyth, USAF, Ret.

[@bobmazzi7435]

Did you at least give them pictures for their empty slot?

[@isbcornbinder]

I have a similar drill press to yours. Mine is a 1924 Adolph Muehlmatt machinist precision sensitive drilling machine

[@mrpete222]

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[@richbreton5105]

I have one also. I fixed it up many years ago. Converted from round drive belt to v-belt. Use it all the time, great for small work, Model building, but also most home repair needs.

[@rogertaylor1589]

Amazing that the table is sans most of the drill throughs.

[@mrpete222]

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[@haroldpetri1495]

😂😂😂😂 you remember the corvair 😂😂😂I had a 65 corvair corsa... 140cdi with 4 single barrel carbs on each corner of the engine..... FRICKEN car was cool great cornering ever in winter.... heater sucked but I was 3rd owner in the family I got it at 16 with my driver's license.... still miss it....

[@mrpete222]

I had a friend with a Corvair spider. It was an awesome car.

[@RG-li5zq]

Thanks for the WT video, Lyle. Do you know what HP the original motor was. The slow speed would be very useful.

[@tjr4744]

One quarter horsepower Delco motor at about 3:12

[@melgross]

I doubt that this was banned by OSHA. It was likely discontinued because it stopped selling. That’s the usual reason why a product gets dropped. Long belts absorb a lot of power and are inefficient. The longer the belt, for the same size belt, the less power is transmitted. For safety, they could have just put a sheet metal cover for the pulley, if that was a real issue. It’s nicely made, but just two speeds! Time for a new motor and VFD.

[@ronitsingh85]

boy it drills true at least after all those decades.

[@biology101info]

Snow blower still use this twisted v belts to drive the blower.

[@steveparker8723]

Enjoyed the video MrPete. Have a great day.

[@christophersielski1388]

Wikipedia claims that the Driver Line was introduced in 1934 after they had moved to Plainfield NJ. Most likely they were using up castings that still had Jersey City on them. Nice machine for its age. I would clean it up and preserve it as a part of machine tool history.

[@danbreyfogle8486]

That is a real unique design and you are correct, OSHA would have a field day with this if they found it on the shop floor.

[@EVILDR235]

Chevrolet 6 cylinder engines from the 1930's to 1962 had those grease cups on the distributors. In 1970 I was working in a bakery and bought a 1956 Chevy 210 model with a 235 six cylinder engine. I went to our local Grand Auto parts store and bought a tin can of cup grease that I still own. That car started a 40 year love affair with pre 1963 Chevrolet six cylinder engines. 14 years ago I got real sick and sold 27 Chevy Blue Flame engines, many extra new and used parts and all my 235 engine hot rod parts.

[@robertlunsford1350]

That is a nice casting.

[@user-oe8gj7fz6v]

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[@kitmaira]

Are you going to restore it?

[@willembuys5827]

Love it

[@hardwarefixer6822]

wow I restored one of those too

[@theseldomseenkid6251]

"Be alert, America needs more Lerts." ..... Dad give me my phone back .... To late son.

[@nomercadies]

Morning Lyle

[@greasydot]

Hey now dont call it greaser. 😂😂 hence my user name. Nice old press.

[@mrpete222]

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[@MrShobar]

"The Driver Line" must have been a subtle suggestion that you should have a driver available when using this thing so that you can be taken directly to the emergency room along with your recently severed fingers. This is the worst excuse for a drill Press I've ever seen. If the Corvair didn't have a functioning drive belt, the engine could not receive cooling air. That necessitated a spare.

[@Th4thWiseman]

Pete, when running its clicking its ass off! bearings? pulleys? splined drawbar? belt deformed? Awful to hear 😮