Anyone Can Ride this 72mph e-moto - Land District Review

[@RiderGuide]

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[@emilyblossom2769]

E-moto should hire you for their advertising- I don’t think I’ve even seen someone have so much fun on an e-bike 😂

[@RiderGuide]

I love little bikes soooo much. My race bike was about the same size and weight. -Paul

[@jpmyles1560]

That’s not a e-bike

[@evanhoback9338]

Bro he literally is he has a promo code this video is a advertisement and he’s getting paid from e motos

[@LANDEnergy]

Thanks for the comprehensive review! We could hear the "LAND smile" through the helmet 🤣

[@RiderGuide]

I’m still wearing that smile every time I watch the riding footage! It was seriously hard to do my riding commentary because I was having so much fun riding! -Paul

[@xPRxMEx]

@@RiderGuideplease do an updated review on their scrambler!

[@Someoneelse415]

Paul is THE man for this job.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks Sam! -Paul

[@HQN-mo8bs]

I would've liked to have seen how to remove the battery, how much the battery weighs, how to charge, how long it takes to charge, and what is the connector type.

[@RiderGuide]

Noted! We will do that if we have a chance to do a full review. I believe the big battery is about 60lbs. If we do a full review, we’ll also run a top speed test, range test, braking distances and acceleration tests. -Paul

[@Alextheskater91]

All that info is on the website he provided . I found it in 30 seconds

[@danielacevedo647]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpyzdWCAfZlqnqM comprehensive review that shows all those details you want.

[@Tenamesan]

Amazing comprehensive review.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks so much for the kind words! -Paul

[@RandomMotoThings]

One of the better reviews thus far. Great work 👍🏽

[@RiderGuide]

Wow! Thank you so much! I hope to get more time with it at some point and do some real testing: top speed, range, braking etc. -Paul

[@Hammymoto]

Love that bike. So much fun

[@RiderGuide]

Hammy in the house! -Paul

[@Justsomeguy524]

Great review, fantastic product! It really is a great EMoto that progresses with you as a rider and doesn’t require 2-3 purchases as you seek more thrill

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks so much! Hopefully we’ll get a chance to do a full review with a top speed run and range test at some point! -Paul

[@RadDuck7]

I dont trust myself on a traditional motorcycle, but I can see myself getting one of these.

[@RiderGuide]

I wish #emoto like the Land District were around when I started riding. -Paul

[@BoozySZN]

What a beast of a bike, Paul. Thanks for the video. Excited to see what new PEVs come out this summer.

[@RiderGuide]

You bet!

[@Bigheadedwon]

I want one! Paul who's a life long moto dude who's raced them is having so much fun, so I know this would be end game for me. And I wish we had road like that, where I live I can't find anything even close to that smooth. Riding my WKGTP I'm always having to be ready for unexpected bumps, watch out for pot holes and avoid all the stupid fallen palms from palm trees that are in the street. Every ride's like an obstacle course lol. There are no relaxing 40-50mph cruises for me.

[@RiderGuide]

Unfortunately that section of road was only about 1/2 a mile long, so I shot it 3 times in each direction and edited it all together :-) But it was still amazing! -Paul

[@THEAVERAGEGUY1983]

That is indeed pretty cool, i would keep it at gear 2. 37Mph sounds like a solid speed for it and looks very stable.

[@RiderGuide]

It's hard to resist clicking into those upper modes though! Always good to see you! -Paul

[@rmiddy439]

Nice review fellas

[@RiderGuide]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your support for our new channel! -Paul

[@mcraven747]

Great review. The range is certainly impressive and shout out to the LAND from great state of Ohio. I met them at Micromobility here in the Bay and they were cool dudes for sure. Paul - I would love to see a review of the Ryvid Anthem and how it compares. Cheers!

[@RiderGuide]

I'd love to get some hard numbers on both of them. I put up some graphs later in the video that compare their spec sheets, but it's just not the same as tested numbers. I had a chance to ride the Anthem and the Land back to back at Micromobility in the Bay area. The Anthem feels bigger and heavier and more like a conventional motorcycle. The motorized seat is an interesting feature for the Anthem, but unless you have two riders for the same bike a seat that could be bolted on in two positions would accomplish the same thing and be lighter. Here's a short of me riding the Anthem. kzbin.infoPEN78H-WTjU?si=8bM3JZ6JPBSLtXQU I tried to make a short about the Land, but the wind absolutely ruined the audio so we never published it. Fingers crossed we get enough interest in these to do some full reviews! -Paul

[@Trashed20659]

Those who want noise want attention ... as you said, if you are whipping through traffic in a hurry, you don't WANT attention. Consider this: Noise takes energy to make. A quiet bike is an efficient bike.

[@ju9piter]

Excellent work with this video. Very helpful and thorough.

[@RiderGuide]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Xyz12391]

This is awesome! Keep up the great work.

[@RiderGuide]

Thank you so much! -Paul

[@JeepAndThings]

Looking pretty good! I pre-ordered a Sondors Metacycle, but essentially lost $500. Are they currently being built in the states or China/shipping? My last eBike is great, but took a year to get. It's the Nireeka Revenant and it's a Canadian company but the bikes I found out were built in China, which I understand.

[@RiderGuide]

This is being built in the US and ships within days of the order! -Paul

[@roadracer311]

Love this #emoto!

[@Luke-qs2cg]

Looks like something from cleveland cyclewerks

[@RiderGuide]

Same founder! -Paul

[@DnSAdventures]

Great review! Definitely thinking about going this route. Still not quite the range I could get on my motorcycle, but sounds like the power will be fairly similar to my Royal Enfield Himalayan, probably even more torque on mode 4. Currently have both an ebike and the motorcycle and I think this might be a good in between gray area that might just be able to fill both gaps. Like I said though, biggest concern is range, but they have to be looking into solid state batteries within the next 5 or so years anyways. So that will be a game changer on all these battery powered bikes. Thanks again for the review! - Shane

[@je7647]

this thing looks built real well. seen you on a scooter vid, wouldnt have thought you ride bikes.

[@RiderGuide]

It all started with BMX racing, then mountain bike racing, then commuting on a motorcycle, then racing motorcycles with the AFM (American Federation of Motorcyclists), then I was lead-mechanic at my own motorcycle shop for 13.5 years, then I ran repair warehouses for two different scooter rental companies Skip and Lime, then Electric Scooter Guide. -Paul

[@spartankittygames]

They gotta give you more time on it, would love to see you guys do all your testing on it.

[@RiderGuide]

I really hope so! We really crammed everything into one day. I rode down from SF on the Triumph, we filmed and rode for 5.5 hours and then I rode back. My first meal was dinner that day! I really want to get out and range test it and do a top speed run. I would have done one for this video, but as soon as I found out this one had the lower gearing, I decided to skip it. -Paul

[@spartankittygames]

@@RiderGuide yeah that makes sense, I hope they can get you on one of the higher geared ones soon, it's great to hear an experienced motorcyclists opinion on this bike.

[@karlInSanDiego]

Santa Cruz is the birthplace of that segment. Too bad you didn't test a Zero FX to compare. I know on paper it's twice the price, but they're actually selling for around $10k.

[@RiderGuide]

Are they selling used for about $10k or new? I'd love to test both. I need to get the District out for a proper top speed run and range test at some point. Unfortunately, unlike the scooters we test, we don't get to keep these for testing, so we just had enough time for first impressions this time. I'd love to get a real database of tested data for emotos going like we have for e-scooters! -Paul

[@lewiegun]

This thing looks awesome. I love positioning it as a short ride alternative to a car. I really prefer taking a scooter to the grocery store for short runs and something like this would be awesome. The torque of an EV bike has always been super compelling to me - would definitely look into one of these when I'm in a position to do so. Wouldn't hurt that it's super light. "I can't stop laughing right now." such a great reaction to that fun EV torque.

[@TN-ez6lz]

What range of rider heights can this accommodate? I'm 5'4" and wondering if I'm tall enough.

[@RiderGuide]

The seat height can be as low as 30 inches, so you should be pretty close. The scrambler looks like it sits taller, due to the tires. -Paul

[@scootermatt9394]

Wow, I want one!

[@RiderGuide]

Honestly, me too! It’s an awesome machine for sure! -Paul

[@scootermatt9394]

@@RiderGuide , do you think you'll get a chance to do a range test and a full ESG-style review?

[@RiderGuide]

I'm really not sure. If we see enough interest in this video and in e-moto content in general it could happen. -Paul

[@quadzilla2854]

Awesome review! You explained the experience perfect!

[@DogMania]

Paul is such an awesome reviewer! I’m sold!!! Where is that road located? So scenic and beautiful!

[@RiderGuide]

It’s in Santa Cruz

[@Byftpup]

OMG listening to you talk about this Paul, it's soooo obvious your loving yourself silly.. It looks amazing.. I'll be looking forward to it land(ing) in Oz.. :). My secret inner hoon is really looking forward to riding it.. :) I wonder how the Australian market will cope with it as a road legal ride? - whats the charge time on it?

[@Ramonatho]

Not a bad looking bike, I'm still caught up in price and repairability of e-motos but this is clearly a mark of going in a good direction.

[@RiderGuide]

It’s American Made so quality should be much superior than China made.

[@Ramonatho]

​@RiderGuide I understand what you mean, I just wonder about things like if Land Moto supports right to repair and will be offering a nice supply to fix it yourself if need be.

[@Malfthadog]

Good Stuff Paul!!

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks very much!

[@mikes96fs]

Looks fantastic but with no pedals, can’t pass it off as an ebike and would require motorcycle license, registration and insurance.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for your feedback!

[@CarlosMota-m1j]

Haven’t seen anywhere how to remove and charge the battery. How heavy is it?

[@RiderGuide]

It slides out the top of the bike relatively quickly. Unfortunately I only had access to it for about 5 hours that day. So I didn’t get to do all of the tests I usually like to do: weigh the vehicle, weigh the battery, range test, two-direction top speed run etc. I hope to get a few days with it and do a proper review at some point. -Paul

[@marksoprano007]

Hey there Paul great job is always with your highly detailed review and great questions you ask. I have a question for you, my friend. I really have been thinking about getting this, but I am more of a cruiser, motorcycle driver and do not like the sports stance. But This looks a little bit more upright and Cafe cruiser style in my opinion. So that and only 70MPH had me concerned leaves me on the fence. I am 6ft 1in tall, 34 inch inseam 180pounds I would to know if you had any other recommendations of any other cruiser style electric bikes ( non sport bike) that are able to be registered and insured for streetable and for highways, I would hope for at least around 80 MPH ( I won’t complain if it is faster 😂) speed and at least 100 Miles to distance. Looking for a semi daily driver.

[@RiderGuide]

Great questions. Yes, I like the standard seating position myself, and this is definitely upright enough for me. We don't know the top speed for sure yet, since I didn't get a chance to measure it, but I'm taking their word for it that it will do 72mph until we get data. The only other one that comes to mind that's close is the Ryvid Anthem, and the NIU RQi. I've ridden the Anthem, briefly, but not the RQi yet (our buddy John did a first impressions video on this channel about the offroad XQi though). Claimed range on the Anthem is much lower, but we also haven't range tested either of them yet. We have an amazing database of kick-scooter data, but our e-moto database is just getting going. I really enjoyed riding the Solar E-Clipse as well and we have tested range and top speed for that one, but both of those numbers are lower for the E-Clipse (as is the price). -Paul

[@jt4life67]

Best review I’ve seen about the land moto.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks so much for the kind words!

[@WasteNoMinutes]

What is your helmet / mic / camera setup? It is awesome!

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks! This was literally the first video we’ve used it for. It’s a DJI Action Cam 4 and the wireless mic that goes with it. The non FPV shots are done with the latest regular insta 360 camera. -Paul

[@jrgv5754]

Yo fyi it only gets about 40 miles when riding constantly on mode 3

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@BrorEvgeni]

Man, I want this bike but they’re not shipping to Europe 😭

[@RiderGuide]

Hopefully soon!

[@bettercallpaul3809]

got my 7 year old son this bike. He loves it

[@RiderGuide]

👀

[@bettercallpaul3809]

@@NatsumeKonnothis was a troll comment lol but that’s cool

[@dllemm]

Please be thoughtful on those left-hand turns and go a little wide so that you don’t put your head over the divider line. We want you to live a long and happy life.🎉

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for the feedback/suggesions.

[@JEP-Tech]

This is what the Sondors Metacycle was supposed to be, but it failed.

[@MrJbee1982]

What city is this review in? Its absolutely gorgeous❤

[@RiderGuide]

Santa Cruz

[@kbstuff19]

for $9k, wouldn't it be reasonable to expect both a small (11-15) front chainring as well as the standard (19) front chainring with the ability to shift between them (simplified transmission) so we can get good low end torque as well as freeway-capable top end speed? at these prices, having to live with a fixed gear set up seems to fall short of the value proposition considering $4k motorcycles come with multigear transmissions.

[@EVMoneyLive]

Why do you think you need that? Have you ridden one?

[@kbstuff19]

@@EVMoneyLive nope, just based on what the vp of sales said regarding the gearing options (15 OR 19 front chainring). I do have both electric and gas powered bikes, however. The best part about electric is the readily available and simple torque off the line. the limitation I've experienced is to get that torque, the front chainring is geared such that the RPM limit of the motor is reached at a relatively low top speed (50 mph). Being able to get up to 75-80 mph would make the bike a viable commuter... actually it would make it a better commuter than an ICE bike (lighter, better off the line, removable battery to charge inside at work if necessary). I wouldn't cross shop it if I was in the market for a sport bike, but with dual gearing as described, I would certainly spend $9k on it over a 600 cc ICE motorcycle for commuting.

[@EVMoneyLive]

@@kbstuff19 I'm just confused because you said "chainring," which US motorcyclists don't say. It made me think you wanted them to engineer some kind of derailleur? I don't think it's possible with a heavy motorcycle chain; instead, it would require a gearbox and a total re-engineering of the motor/drive unit, if not the frame and swingarm as well. Watching the video, I don't think Paul is riding the 19-tooth sprocket option, and he doesn't seem to have any trouble getting to very high speeds. So I don't think this is the problem that you point out. It's a solution with no problem, if you ask me. If you've indeed been following electric motorcycles, you'd remember the Brammo Empulse, which had a gearbox and clutch...which added weight, expense and complexity that really didn't benefit the rider much. I doubt the 0-50 time is that different between the two gearings, at least not enough to justify a gearbox.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for the feedback and stopping by!

[@kbstuff19]

@@EVMoneyLive I guess what I'm looking for is a lower powered and less-complex version of a livewire or zero for commuting. I don't need 100+ mph top speed, 0-60 in under 3 seconds, ABS/electric nannies, or sport bike suspension. Would happily trade those for lighter weight, removable battery, and lower price.

[@tankdome37]

Pretty good review!

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks! Make sure to subscribe. Lots of good stuff coming soon! :)

[@FromThisViewPoint]

Do you need a motorcycle license in California for this?

[@RiderGuide]

Depends on your locality!

[@FromThisViewPoint]

@@RiderGuide Los Angeles/Orange County

[@voodoochild6741]

Bro you should check the E Enduro bikes. I saw them compete against the gas Enduro motocross you will be surprised!! I love them

[@RiderGuide]

I'll check it out

[@cerebrix]

moped mode is really "I have 3 dui's and the DMV wont give me a license anymore" mode

[@RiderGuide]

🚓👮‍♂️

[@Babytronians]

Your happiness is contagious :)

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks very much!

[@beeski4220]

What would you recommend the district or the solar eclipse 2.0?

[@RiderGuide]

We love the solar eclipse 2.0 geni.us/SolarEclipse we have a special code $400 off with code RG400

[@ChitFromChinola]

American made! Dig it . . .

[@RiderGuide]

I love that they’ve been designing motorcycles even longer than they have been making EVs. It’s shows in the ride. -Paul

[@jeremyschultz4731]

this is a lot for a first gen bike with tech as a whole my experience with 1st gen amd5 has been bad making me thing early adoption of evs like this should be avoid for now with everything happening in the e space an batties space combined. but its neat see a default moto with 120 maxes distance while i think an ponto might be better for me to get or an ss pro moto it can reach 60 but max is 90 distance is 5k an street legal too while an ponto with an extension bat can get 120 miles is an ebike that can do well places with deep snow

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for the input & stopping by!

[@truthiscensored]

Good bike, but these companies need to stop making these Hybrid E-bikes/Motor-bike type of bikes. It just an excuse for people to get these things and go 50 mph on Bike trails and then claim it's a e-bike. I see all the time on bike trails in California. People ride fast as if they on the highway doing highway speeds. Several states have already made e-Bike laws/regulations because of the foolishness mention above. Some regulations are dumb. My personal opinion, If the bike goes over 40 mph it need to classified as a Moped and anything over 50 MPH need to be classified as motorcycle. And stop classifying these e-bikes as Bicycles if they have no pedals. Bike with all throttle should be Mopeds

[@RiderGuide]

Someone else asked in the comments, so I dug a little deeper. In California and 37 other states, you're right, it's pretty much just a moped or motorcycle, though many people tend to ride Surrons and smaller e-motos as if they were e-bikes. I'll be curious how it all shakes out in the other 13 states. I'm also curious if we'll ever get a crackdown on the 72 mph stand up scooters, since technically we can only ride them 15mph here in CA. -Paul

[@shastamite2]

It is not classifed as an ebike so calm your tits. It has an ebike mode that has ebike power for a begineer to get on and learn how to ride it. It is a motorcycle/moped.

[@AdamsHadEnough]

Wow nice to see you dona.bike review. Great review and great bike.

[@RiderGuide]

Thank you kindly

[@mraidymaddful]

I'll take the Triumph please..............

[@tylerjakubczak91]

Should i comment here aswell for the pev giveaway 🤔

[@RiderGuide]

That gotrax one on ESG is all you need!

[@yulog]

7k is ridiculous, would rather have a motorcycle for that money.

[@RiderGuide]

For the electric industry price is decent for what you are getting.

[@8cj1ec]

Yeaaaa 7k is a lot lol you can definitely get a couple of motorcycles for that price

[@timothy9360]

Right, you can get a used sport bike for that much. If people knew how easy and cheap it is to build your own e bike. These Chinese e bike companies would disappear...

[@diegof8188]

@@timothy9360 you really think you could make an e bike that makes 70 miles an hour

[@timothy9360]

@@diegof8188 You can definitely trim some of the cost by building a kit yourself...

[@tubacka22]

will this be available in the UK ?

[@tubacka22]

if so what kind of licence will I need ?

[@RiderGuide]

Hopefully

[@lignas]

Look like this place in Monterey

[@karlInSanDiego]

The flip side to the Jekyll and Hyde of this bike is that you can't spec it slow and hand this to a young person and pretend it's a fast e-bike, and they'll ride it safely. Anyone riding this should be presumed to be riding a 72 mph motorcycle, so stay out of the bike lanes, stay off of the Multiuse paths, and DON'T ruin e-bike access to all the way the Surron has been starting to do. As Ramier showed, it is impossible to avoid the temptation of using the thing as a motorcycle, even though he doesn't have a motorcycle license. No Bueno. Motorcycle riders should undergo training, as should all motor vehicle operators. Take the MSF, and take the motorcycle seriously.

[@RiderGuide]

You can lock it into mode 1 with the app.

[@cbbbbbbbbbbbb]

Sounds like an impulse control issue. If you know you can't resist temptation, that's one thing. Not everyone is like that.

[@karlInSanDiego]

@@cbbbbbbbbbbbb No, I was responding to the fact that the reviewer described this as having an e-bike mode, which is false. This has no pedals and doesn't qualify as an e-bike. No one who understands bike laws in this country would say that. 28 mph is the limit for Class 3 e-bikes but they have to have no throttle and must have pedals. Here is Juiced useful summation of state-by-state Class 3 laws, because they sell them and pay attention. I don't have impulse controls. I do understand when a reviewer or worse a manufacturer is explaining false information about how a product can be ridden in the USA. I ride motorcycles. My last one was a Triumph 675 Daytona. But the e-bike rules do not allow for this to be treated as an e-bike.

[@davecook81]

I NEED this!!!

[@mark35mi]

$7000-$9000+ is big money. But a sweet ride.

[@RiderGuide]

Sweet ride for sure!

[@Rishabh-Dev]

Hello. I am from India. How can I contact them for manufacturing partnership?

[@RiderGuide]

Email CS

[@mrk_u1352]

Love this bike 👌🏼

[@RiderGuide]

Me too!

[@anthonymrugacz2917]

4 minute video stretched into 24:57

[@RiderGuide]

Your humor and engagement are always appreciated! Thanks for watching as much as you could. -Paul

[@fpsFAMOUS]

7K? Woooowheeeee

[@ROGUE-6969]

Can my 350lb brother ride this?

[@RiderGuide]

Limit is 375lbs! So technically he could, would probably just want to stiffen up the suspension a bunch.

[@calokraine5901]

😂 is he 6"8' I hope 😢

[@wj9494]

15 hp, equal to a 200cc motorcycle for $7k and 100 mile total range and then hours of charging. One use case as a commuter, but not worth it to me. Thanks.

[@CloverMind]

Love the review. But I'm very curious exactly where (country, state/province) is a PEV on 2 wheels considered to be a street legal ebike without pedals, and ability to pedal it into motion? Also exactly where is 25mph on motor assist alone is considered street legal for an ebike? I'm curious because it seems to me most of north america is aligned on 20mph/32kph max speed for ebike motor assist (throttle) only mode, and in requirement of working pedals to propel the bicycle.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for the feedback. I’ll reach out to Land to see if they have more details. This would be a great addition to their website, though hard to maintain since the rules are constantly changing . -Paul

[@raydrew201]

I think to convince the population to drive electric bikes, they need to allow anything less than 100 mph without a license.

[@MrUnderScore81162]

Not gonna lie, the 2 year warranty doesn't inspire me. 5-7 years and I'd be willing to buy something like this.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@Tommy88833]

Cover the brake with at least a finger. Nice E cycle

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for stopping by!

[@tonyvision3097]

7K I can get 3 Honda shadows from marketplace lol

[@RiderGuide]

You def can if you choose too!

[@identifying.as.asovereignhuman]

Santa Cruz!

[@ТимаКама]

GOOD

[@marsiloficino5060]

Anybody else notice the dolphins in the background

[@RiderGuide]

👀

[@davidfromdownunder]

Is that seals I can hear in the background whilst you guys are talking or was one of you farting? (When on the Jetty / Pier) BTW..... Gorgeous day, Bay area I assume ? I wouldn't know being from Brisbane, Australia

[@RiderGuide]

So many seals! I shot some footage of them, but it didn't make it in the video. We had to pause shooting several times! -Paul

[@davidfromdownunder]

@RiderGuide I did discover shortly after my comment that you were in Santa Cruz, lovely town. Visited in 2012 when on a road trip, yep seals everywhere on the main pier / wharf or as we day in Stralya 'Jetty'.

[@bryanzimmerman8646]

@@davidfromdownunderthere is a seal around 18:40 behind them talking to the left

[@jpmyles1560]

You can’t paddle it. Not a e-bike. Electric Moped or electric motorcycle .. that bike is going to make problems for all people that try to say it’s a e-bike. That’s not a e-bike in no form.. electric motorcycle… nothing else…

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for your feedback. I’ll reach out to Land to see if they can provide more detail about where it could be considered something other than an e-motorcycle. I looked up e-bike laws and it appears that in at least 38 US states it’s not an e-bicycle, because even though it has the correct power level in mode 1 (750w), it can do 28mph on throttle only. I don’t know if there is a pedal kit for it like Segway had for their version of the Sutton. -Paul

[@shastamite2]

It is not an bike, correct. It has an E-Bike mode that is made for begineers to elarn how to ride.

[@hottamalekid3502]

Definitely cool bike, but no way would I shell out close to $11k for this.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for stopping by!

[@davecook81]

💯‼️💙

[@SandMDOTCOM1]

If they want people to convert to electric they have to make it worth the money.

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for stopping by!

[@jesuslovesbass3944]

It's an electric motorcycle, not a ebike.

[@Samanonsi8]

Fck sucks it doesnt ship to vancouver canada

[@RiderGuide]

Hopefully that can change in the future!

[@MiguelRamirez-ie4yu]

You have good options like the e tron

[@gt5087]

the chain doesnt make sense for an e-bike.

[@shastamite2]

Most ebikes have chains over belts due to the possiblity of snapping a belt from dropping off of curbs and such.

[@RiderGuide]

Why wouldn’t a chain make sense here? The power level? It actually has both because there is a belt drive between the motor and chain drive. -Paul

[@gt5087]

​@@RiderGuide motor connected directly to the wheel - remove the needs for such chains / belts.

[@BummySheep]

Lets be honest, there is nothing that translate from this expensive toy to a real motorcycle. Saying that this eliminates the need for a 250 - 400cc entry bike sounds like a paid for response and coming from Paul is highly disappointing given his riding background. Imagine thinking you can hop on a 600-1000cc liter bike after riding this glorified ebike for a year. My issue is that no one is going to restrict the thing and will immediately start riding dirty. The PEV space is gravitating to more speed more power more acceleration with no long term quality control or safety standards. You will see people on these damn things with a bike helmet or somethings that not rated for a 70 mph crash on the freeway....

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for your feedback. Did you watch the entire video. I'm curious how does this wouldn't replace 250 - 400cc motorcycles, especially for city use? My first bike was a 400cc Honda CB-1 and my race bike for 5.5 seasons was a Ninja 250. I'm a huge fan of smaller gas-powered bikes, but I'd honestly rather ride this. Stop-sign-to-stop-sign, e-motos are amazing because you're not spending half a block waiting for the power to come on. It's just on immediately. Plus there's not having to pull the clutch at stop lights, silent-hooning, charging at home and never having to go to the gas station. My love of this bike is real. You can hear it in my laughter when I'm riding. -Paul

[@obeii1805]

lol rode out to do a review for them to help their sale and they are soo hurt they can’t even give u the bike for exposure 😂😂😂😂😂 even if 2 ppl buy it from this review it’s worth of a free bike 😂😂

[@RiderGuide]

I don’t know of any emoto company that’s handing out emotos to reviewers yet for keeps. They’re expensive to build. -Paul

[@divdevoe8847]

Do people need a driver's license to drive this?

[@RiderGuide]

Depends on your locality!

[@Truth_Spoken]

You need a motorcycle license to ride it on the road, so your title is kind of misleading.

[@RiderGuide]

The title is intended to mean I could put anyone able bodied on it and they’d feel comfortable riding it. On the other hand, not anyone can just jump on my Triumph Street Triple and ride it. -Paul

[@krusher74]

I dont buy this "ebikes/motorbikes" are safter than convention motorbike, its being hit by car trucks that's the danger and it being electric does not change that. I don't subscribe to it, but the loud pipes save lives guys aren't gonna feel safer.

[@RiderGuide]

I don't think it's safer, but definitely easier to ride. I think fewer people will be afraid of ebikes and emotos the way people are afraid of motorcycles. Hmmmm... the loud pipes save lives guys... in 30 years of motorcycle commuting I've never felt the need to be heard. -Paul

[@WarbirdFan66]

i guess beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder ...and i might even believe you that it drives great ... but man is that thing ugly...holy cow, and they want money for it?...for real....unbelievable

[@RiderGuide]

I like how it looks, but I’ve always liked naked bikes/standard bikes. -Paul

[@frapino]

Looks like an ugly copy of Cake bikes.

[@RiderGuide]

We actually like this one better in the looks dept

[@obeii1805]

U can buy a used sf first the cost of this bike new .. there’s really no market for this bike , it’s just a niche within a niche toy it’s not a valuable affordable commute and that’s the primary role of it and it can’t even do that. But all these e moots are just toys for fun those who can afford them . They are not reliable vehicles. And this bike will be obsolete in 5 years like the rest with very very poor resale value and poor part replacement.. your bike life will depend on this company’s ability to not go bankrupt 😂😂😂 so it’s just a for now toy and an unforgiving economy 😂😂😂😂 👍🏾

[@RiderGuide]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@nicknelson9450]

@@RiderGuide I sense you've dismissed this feedback, and I understand we all may have different priorities, but he's probably right. Not sure who decided these bikes should all look like uncomfortable, botched café racers or rocket ships, but someone is eventually going to stumble on the right moment to design and build an ebike which looks more like a mainstream motorcycle, with a convincing range and a price which doesn't immediately make your eyes water, and thanks to masss market dynamics, they'll have it cornered in no time and leave everyone else scrambling to catch up...Tesla-like. PS:I doubt this bike will be the one to do it.

[@rietzhu]

Another toy for the rich. Again, would rather just get a car or real bike for what you pay here.. let’s get back to scoots and the like.

[@RiderGuide]

The RiderGuide channel will have some scooter content, but will mainly be e-bike and e-moto focused, and we'll add more PEV's as time goes on, where most of our scooter content, including all of the full scooter reviews will stay over at ESG. -Paul

[@shastamite2]

I would rather get his over a car or a "Real" bike like you say. This is a real bike, whether you liek it or not. It is a motorcycle. Worth every cent to me and lots of other people.

[@dllemm]

This bike is 30% the cost of a Honda Civic.

[@shastamite2]

@@dllemm worth it.