Apology Not Accepted | Was it Real? The Hills Rewatch Podcast

[@Bbpayet]

I think Audrina and Frankie do a great job together! It is less biased. Best episode yet!

[@EvesGonnaEve]

Agreed. It was more enjoyable before Heidi came on.

[@letmebehonest7287]

Agreed. I see them wanting Heidi as a guest but I don't care for her trying to play the victim and spin things into her own narrative

[@Random6015]

I loved this episode. You can definitely tell Heidi was unable to blame LC for world hunger. She knew that having Andrew meant being held accountable.

[@carolinecarmack6497]

You can tell Heidi is very uncomfortable with the producer there bc she can’t lie and say everything is editing. I agree, just Audrina & Frankie is much better

[@johndaveducusin7262]

i will watch it if heidi is not in this podcast. Finally some fresh air not lauren bashing. It's good that andrew is there so heidi will not change the narrative and blame lauren all the time and lie about everything. I'm happy watching it until the end. I hope lauren will face these people once and for all to not save her face but to finally move on to these people and get her name free.

[@kristazeffield2142]

I definitely agree! I honestly can't stand listening to Heidi speak. She is very one sided on most of what happened so we're not getting the full truth which is the whole point of these podcasts. I'd much rather watch Whitney and Timmy and Kristin and Stephens podcasts.

[@reneegolovacha1880]

@@johndaveducusin7262🙄Lauren was absolutely annoying. Self righteous, judge mental control freak.

[@ch_mo_1051]

It’s interesting to hear how analytical Audrina is capable of being when Heidi isn’t there.

[@ch_mo_1051]

It’s so obvious that she’s watched the ‘Jen’ episodes and can see proof that Jen & Brody hooked up… she’s laying out that narrative at the start of this episodes. Then as soon as Heidi arrives, Audrina starts backtracking, being less sure of what she’s saying etc. Also Heidi never answers any questions she just waffles on with bullshit.

[@meganarlow3950]

@@ch_mo_1051I think the show is better without Heidi. Heidi is spinning false narratives to protect herself. She needs to stop speaking for Lauren and how she felt

[@ct6852]

Think she'd be perfect for all of season one, and part of season two...after that she's just gonna protect herself and Spencer. But interesting hearing her perspective regardless if she's leaving stuff out.

[@kristinomalley9423]

So basically Jen is a liar. Shocking.

[@sharonb6870]

Lmao I know everything we all already knew. Good that Audrina at least finally saw that! I mean Brody did admit they kissed

[@amandasalazar237]

I think Audrina didn’t want to have a confrontation so she just said ok it didn’t happen when Jen was on but now she is saying it did happen lol

[@meganarlow3950]

Love how they pieced is together

[@Harperangel59]

@@amandasalazar237 even Brody kinda was like oh ok yeah I guess nothing happened. They both didn’t wanna argue with her lol

[@katm7255]

Why in the world would Brody say it happened if it didn’t?

[@christinajackson8000]

Audrina & Franky are so funny. Just go ahead & call Jen a liar. 😂

[@val9893]

I think they need a producer on every week, notice how Heidi can't blame editing or Lauren too much with this guy on😂😂

[@carolescott5731]

Lauren literally says it wasnt even about brody. It was that jen went after the first guy she was able to have feelings for after jason. Seems like heidi is dancing around the question because theyre trying to spin the narrative to be more in her and jens favour.

[@alexboyd1501]

This episode was so much better with just Frankie, Audrina and the producer Andrew! Should keep it that way.

[@osxow1]

Yeah they are so real

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

Agreed, this episode was bearable with just Audrina and Frankie. Also love when they bring a producer on

[@meganarlow3950]

I enjoyed it. Heidi normally does all the talking .

[@Prizzilla]

The vibes were definitely off once Heidi came in. All she does is say, "there's no reason Lauren and ___ shouldn't still be friends!" Like enough already!

[@Laura-mc92]

I agree. Audrina is more authentic and honest with just Frankie. She isn’t as comfortable when Heidi is around

[@bethyyyboo91]

Best episode of the season yet!!! This episode felt so much more genuine than the past season 2 episodes have been. It’s still a little silly that Heidi thinks Jen and Lauren should still be friends so much lol. But it’s also SO much better with a producer giving some real deets.

[@crazeekiwi1]

They should have a producer on every episode, it keeps them accountable somewhat and allows for a balanced conversation.

[@Shannon_Moore]

I think this show could survive w just you 2 as the hosts

[@kirstypoppy]

Same. There's just no need for 3 hosts. But I feel it could be body and audrina as frnakie was never on as many episodes

[@marymartinez5788]

Totally agree 100%

[@anatvtime4323]

Yea and just have guests come on. Would be bettsr

[@Julia-zr2xe]

The problem is they don’t remember much of anything 😂

[@scarlettletter3788]

​@@kirstypoppy Brody brings nothing to the table and always get sidetracked haha

[@411onlife]

I think Heidi’s really lucky that Lauren doesn’t care to talk about the hills anymore.

[@tshay7]

Sheesh, can you imagine!?! If Lauren actually still cared?

[@themartins5795]

Absolutely!!!!

[@Kitara788]

And what In pre tell would Lauren say about the show? Heidi wanted to live with her boyfriend. That’s life

[@411onlife]

@@Kitara788 Spencer Pratt is a vile person and he’d be vile with or without the hills and Heidi is in an abusive relationship with him and always has been point blank period.

[@fortheladies771]

@@Kitara788 She’d probably debunk all the obvious lies that Heidi tells, because we clearly saw all the nasty things she did on the show. We literally watched the show lol

[@btvschosen2022]

You should always have a producer here to call Heidi out on her bs. This woman is nuts

[@bellatrix4252]

heidi still believes that lauren have power over people around her. gosh heidi is still want lauren in her life that she will talk bad about her to gain attention.

[@hunterandolive2693]

Am I missing something? I didnt see him call her out anywhere...

[@en6278]

its you lauren loonies who are nuts. Just cause you dont like what she says doesnt mean its not true. If Lauren wants to give her side she could. This is Heidis truth! Everybody says same things about Lauren so I guess you think theyre all lying? Kristen & stephen also. Lauren even admits she had several boyfrineds during filming but it wasnt portrayed that way cause they wanted her to ge the good girl.

[@octopus4925]

​@@hunterandolive2693no, ppl just hate Heidi, I don't even get why

[@dcc7763]

When you guys say that you can tell Lauren was mad at Jen for SOMETHING and Jen was truly sorry for SOMETHING…here is what I have heard. Jen was allegedly selling stories about Lauren to tabloids. She blamed it on Lo which is why they had a falling out and why Lo comes back into the picture after Jens exit. Also in Lauren’s book series that is based off her experience on the Hills, one of the main characters Carmen, has a shady child hood friend who she finds out has been texting and calling the editor in chief of a gossip magazine leaking stories. I have a feeling this was based off Jen. Also I agree with other viewers that Heidi is visibly uncomfortable with the producer present, and I’m glad that Audrina and Frankie questioned and pushed back a bit because it’s clear that SOMEONE here is lying.

[@moreadventure3627]

I think Lo and Lauren grew apart now

[@allysonrainey5149]

When Audrina was a guest on another podcast (I think Deux Moi) she says something about Lo and Stephanie accepting luxury bags in exchange for accusing Kristin of using drugs. If Lo was willing to do that, I’m sure she did leak some things about Lauren….and that could be why they don’t speak now.

[@val9893]

​@@allysonrainey5149 Lauren posted a pic a few months ago and tagged lo in it and lo reposted it. I actually think they just naturally drifted maybe? Laurens living her best quiet life in Laguna with her family and Los in nyc building her business. Seems pretty normal that they wouldnt be as close

[@freddyem2522]

@@allysonrainey5149 I remember Kristin talking about this and saying all three of them (Lo, Audrina, Stephanie) got bribed with handbags (and in the end never got them). So don't trust everything Audrina says :D

[@captaingatorgirl6892]

Apparently, Spencer had been secretly recording phone conversations of Lauren to give to producers, and one of those convos was with Jen while she was with Heidi and Spencer. And that's why she was so mad at both Heidi and Jen. In the scene when her and Heidi are arguing where Lauren calls Spencer a "sucky person", you can hear Heidi say "he erased it". I don't know about Frankie, but there's no way Audrina doesn't know about that, and it's funny to see her trying to act clueless. And also, as you said, Jen was allegedly selling stories to tabloids about Lauren.

[@daniellecatherine8225]

Heidi knew what she was doing that night Brody & Jen hooked up. When you watch that episode at the club when they are all sitting together and Jen is talking to Brody, and Heidi is encouraging them, Heidi turns her back to the camera- she is sitting on spencers lap and says something to Spencer about the situation. She was very adamant about getting them together. When Jen comes to Heidi's office, Heidi was like, I don't have time for this.

[@MsLibby76]

They also talked about it when they went out to eat beforehand. 😑😑 She didn't deserve the diamond martini glass necklace!!!

[@MsLibby76]

I don't know why they're glossing over this? Heidi is completely ignoring the fact that she was pushing jen to do this. Fake or not- she was part of it.

[@anatvtime4323]

Facts!!.. At dinner they were talkin about it. I hate when they trY to say it was the"producers" or "editing". Ummmmmm no! Not if we see your mouth moving saying the words in the moment. She doesn't like to take responsibility..so annoying

[@tiffanijahnke6688]

Check out the episode before this one. Because she does take accountability.

[@annahughes5631]

Omg this set up is soooo much better with just these two!!!! 👏🏼 🙌🏻

[@blairstoriemusic]

I always took the sloppy thirds comment on as in Brody’s been with Lauren and Kristen… so Jen’s the third.

[@Harperangel59]

Well yeah I think that’s what she meant

[@nvazquez09]

Heidi is so full of crap & clearly envious she didn’t end up as successful as Lauren. She pretty much was the laughing stock for along time and she’s still lacking accountability. How embarrassing.

[@bellatrix4252]

heidi is still think that lauren paying the "lauren army" to bash her, heidi still think up until now that lauren is have the power of the producers saying andrew sign a contract for not saying anything against lauren. 😂😂

[@yelhsacabrera]

I really enjoyed this episode when it was just Frankie and Audrina & even this producer. They’re the only hosts that seem like they’re actually rewatching the episodes, giving insight on what the viewer saw and then commenting on their experience filming it. Seems way more unbiased and makes it more enjoyable to listen to.

[@18HOLGUIN]

I think it's SO convenient that heidi had to take care of her baby while they were talking about the jen hooking up with Brody thing.

[@chanelbags435]

I was thinking 🤔 the same thing

[@Kitara788]

He’s a baby. She’s a MOM. That’s what MOMS do. 😮 FR

[@kirstenolson9972]

I like having a producer on, it adds a nice dimension/ different perspective and also someone who doesn't have beef towards Lauren. Audrina and Frankie are a liiiiittle awkward at times, how many times can Audrina say "in a pickle" lol But overall, this episode felt more pleasant and balanced, and I appreciate them calling out the Jen situation a bit more, and Frankie being a bit more real and questioning Heidi a little. I think it's good to not just accept everything everyone says all the time, not to just argue with them, but to ask more questions/clarification when something feels fishy.

[@carrietwidale2506]

Finally someone to call out Heidi, have a producer there every time.

[@Nay7373]

Lmaooooooooo Jen getting caught in the lie. And I always wanted to know how Heidi got away with that when she set it up.

[@sharonb6870]

I wish they verified with Andrew if Lauren actually had all this power on the show to kick people off.

[@angelicaguerino]

Yeah. I don’t think she did - I think Heidi and spencer would be off the show if she had that power. (There is rumor of a behind the scenes argument between Lauren and producers where she was very upset they weren’t taken off the show). It sounds like Lauren had Final Cut but not casting control.

[@carolinecarmack6497]

@@angelicaguerino and that’s why they didn’t ask. Bc it would discredit Spencer and Heidi. Once again, we protect the toxic couple and don’t make them hold accountability 🙄

[@Laura-mc92]

They didn’t because they know it’s not true. 😂

[@brianajune]

Here’s the thing, I feel like she did have a bit of control only because if she left, the show wouldn’t quite have what they needed so I’m sure she had some say on the back end to a certain extent.

[@angelicaguerino]

@@carolinecarmack6497 not we- they

[@precious4641]

Heidi is just as guilty as Jen is! Why is no one questioning her role in that whole episode!! She too was a terrible friend that day!

[@Harperangel59]

I kinda think Heidi just doesn’t want to own up to any wrong doing. I think she doesn’t want to give lauren any validity I guess

[@themartins5795]

Can we keep this dynamic please? Insightful opinions without all of the negative energy!

[@mariahv7502]

You know Heidi was mad that the producer was there so she couldn’t lie😂 If he wasn’t there this time, she’d be telling lies, she probably would’ve even said she told Lauren first and not Lo, she would’ve blamed editing.

[@SandyGaliano]

Better episode. Notice how the former producer, Andrew, said they wanted this show to be about four young ladies in LA. Also would’ve loved to see some of those scenes he’s talking about where it’s more humor.

[@hayerickson4361]

Yet all of them complain saying “It was Lauren’s show,” as an excuse for themselves.

[@kristinomalley9423]

The episodes without Brody are way better. He’s brings a toxic vibe.

[@brookedockary8682]

Wow the start was so much better, great hearing both sides not just one 👏🏼

[@Amongusfuntimes]

Right?! I agree

[@bambina772]

Loved it!! Audrina I remember that scene of you confronting Lauren; you could tell you were genuinely pissed. I remember thinking yep this is a real moment…… And we all know Jen is a lying 😂

[@heathert.4637]

So Jen is lying or has early onset Alzheimer’s..🤦🏼‍♀️ It’s soo strange that she would come on as an adult and double down on it like this. I’m more embarrassed for her now that I was when she was a kid.😂🤦🏼‍♀️

[@dontgiveupplz]

You could tell that Brody was fuming the whole time because Jen Bunny basically called him a liar over and over during the whole podcast episode.

[@ch_mo_1051]

Heidi’s comment about Andrew signing a contract was so rude and condescending, and she should have apologised when it was pointed out that he no longer worked for the show at that point. It also made me wonder if this is part of Spencer’s brainwashing of her? Because Spencer 100% made her think he was a master producer and show-runner who knew everything. It wouldn’t surprise me if in the early days when she questioned his behaviour and motives, he gaslit her into this ‘for the show’ bullshit. He would have also been constantly in her ear about the producers all being on Lauren’s side and the contract comment kinda ties with that

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

I don’t think so, I think Heidi is just as manipulative as Spencer. She wants everyone to think that Lauren and JB hooked up and Andrew is covering for her because it makes Lauren look bad. 100% agree that she owes Andrew an apology though. You can tell there is tension between Speidi and the producers

[@Random6015]

@@KylieVitelli-jf8cy spot on. Heidi was only friends with LC to be on the show. Even Kristen and Stephen confirm it on their show.

[@ct6852]

@@KylieVitelli-jf8cy The producers kicked them off near the end of the show. Spencer was having outbursts and getting untethered and Heidi was sounding alarm bells. I think he threatened one of them. So there probably is still some tension there.

[@blclearningbite8770]

Heidi is painful, The way she just takes every opportunity to belittle and dismiss Laurens character is horrible. She previously admitted to being manipulative with Spencer, trying to spin narratives to suit them and make them look a certain way. Its exactly what she is doing EVERY episode since she joined. I enjoyed watched the Brody, Audrina and Frankie recap, its hard to watch/listen now heidi has joined. No hate, just honest feedback.

[@bellatrix4252]

Yeah spencer is so mature that his tiktok making fun of lauren's interview in a magazine, making fun of lauren's brand in kohls. Heidi is never or would try to stop spencer mocking and taunting lauren on social media.

[@natalieruby7934]

I think they wouldn't like me on a reality show cuz I would back track and call people out. Why not call Heidi out on when she was pushing Jenn and Brody together?? Why not just admit it Jenn? You have nothing else to lose at this point since all this was years ago. Jenn was not a good friend, period.

[@Prizzilla]

Heidi is delulu, and seems to be on the podcast just to take digs at Lauren. Lauren really showed her growth and maturity by going on Stephen and Kristin's podcast, so maybe Heidi will get there one day too.

[@kirstenolson9972]

Kinda feel like they could have pushed Heidi for a bit more accountability that Heidi pushed/encouraged Jen to hook up with Brody but then immediately cut Jen off to save herself...I think that's why it's hard with this show, it's not that Heidi and everyone shouldn't have their own side, but there is just zero accountability for actions. Like, if Heidi was like, "Yeah, I was immature and dealing with a lot and I just was afraid of losing my friendship because of that mistake, so I chose to shut Jen out. It was wrong, I shouldn't have pushed her to hook up with Brody, and I shouldn't have treated her like shit afterwards to save my own ass. " I feel like Jen subtly insinuates Heidi throwing her under the bus in the interview when she was there.

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

Agreed. Seems like Heidi is trying to defend Jen 15 years later now that Lauren is never going to be her friend. But she didn’t care about defending her back then. She cared more about being friends with Lauren and staying on the show

[@anatvtime4323]

Facts

[@ch_mo_1051]

It’s actually so wild that Jen asked Brody why he never defunded her back then in the media, and just said ‘I don’t kiss and tell’… but she didn’t ask Heidi why she happily gave her the flick until Heidi had no other friends left

[@snb_angels]

I wish I knew Andrew Perry was on beforehand. I would have come to watch/listen sooner ☺️ Great quote from Andrew, “The producers really did have to make sense out of chaos.” And, yes, the first season was fun, organic and more real. And… a Frankie sighting in this episode! Yeah!! I do not know why Jen became friends again with Heidi. Again, the way Heidi treated Jen when she was just as guilty is disgusting. But Heidi knew she fucked up, was shady, and already on thin ice so she was trying to get back into Lauren’s good graces. And she said she was only friends with Jen because she was Lauren’s friend, right? Noted. On to the highlights: Audrina: She (Lauren) knows her birthday is coming up. Heidi: Obviously 😂😂😂 Lauren’s 21st Birthday looked fun 🤩 Heidi and Audrina (and production) did a nice job on her party. Gotta love a fun and drunk Lauren. Lol! And Brody’s doofy ass really asked Spencer to make her toast? Lauren looked so disturbed 😂 Rightfully so. The Lauren and Jen confrontation was intense. The way Lauren reads people is so damn boss! So, if nothing ever hap’d between Jen and Brody then why is she apologizing? Because it did happen. And Jen puts it all on Brody. At this point it was understood why Lauren couldn’t be friends with Jen at this time. Sometimes you need breaks or permanent breaks from long term friends. Lauren to Jen: “It wasn’t some girl I hated. No. It was my best friend who made me feel like such an idiot, and made me feel so low.” Jen to Lauren: “I know I made a mistake. And I know I lied to you. And I am so sorry.” Jen really sat on this podcast and tried to rewrite history and say nothing happened, when Brody admitted they did kiss. There is a history of bad patterns in behavior on Jen’s part. Some foreshadowing in a quote from Lauren to Heidi: “I do not need people like that in my life. I have too many good people in my life to try to have bad ones in it too.” This is about to be 100% true when it comes to their friendship. Heidi lived with Lauren, so she could talk to Lauren at any time while they lived together. So, shut that shit up. When Lauren cut Heidi out of her life is when you see Heidi trying to get Lauren to talk to her. I just do not believe most or any of what Heidi says. The rumor that Audrina says was manufactured by her friend Dino is very sickening. And after Audrina goes on talk shows to try to discredit Lauren and all the other sloppiness, Audrina ends up apologizing to Lauren for the lie.

[@scarlettletter3788]

Much better with just Audrina and Frankie and not Heidi steamrolling the conversation rewriting history in her favour (hell, if Andrew wanted to be a regular host it would be amazing to actually have someone unbiased on there).

[@islaramirez2574]

I loved this episode ! Good job, Audrina and Franky

[@carolinecarmack6497]

It wasn’t what Jen did with Brody, it was that she wouldn’t fess up to it, and that she sold stories about Lauren to tabloids

[@fortheladies771]

Can we talk about How GORGEOUS Audrina looks?!

[@truthteller4442]

She really does. I would never think she’s a day over 25.

[@lavaanyagarg]

If Lauren had the power to kick them off the show- don’t you think she would have done better things with that kinda clout? Wish they remembered all the reasons Lauren articulates honestly on the show about WHY she’s upset with her friends at different points. Their whole routine of skipping over the main nuggets on the podcast and only beating about the bush to repeat what they’ve said hundred times before about Lauren is getting annoying. The rewatch shows by Kristin and Stephen in that regard is much better. They address elephants in the room, fess up and also offer empathy and compassion to other stars on their show. Mature.

[@hayerickson4361]

No, we didn’t tune into season 3 for the friendship. We tuned in because of the tabloids and the rumor circling on Perez Hilton’s website. Seems like they won’t be addressing the real reason season 3 was so anticipated. “You know what you did!”

[@Harperangel59]

I think they will Heidi has been vocal about how she got the blame for the rumors. I’m sure Heidi really wants to speak on it since she got so much heat from it back then

[@hayerickson4361]

@@Harperangel59but did Spencer? Brody told Lauren on camera he knew Spencer and Heidi started the rumor. Allegedly Spencer did admit to starting the rumor.

[@Harperangel59]

@@hayerickson4361 he admitted on the show to get lauren to come to their wedding. Was that authentic because the phone call was staged so I don’t know? Why pretend apologize if you really didn’t do it?

[@hayerickson4361]

@@Harperangel59it was a fake call. Both Spencer and Lauren have confirmed the phone call between them was not real.

[@Harperangel59]

@@hayerickson4361 exactly like why pretend apologize on the show, even though the call was fake, if you really didn’t do it at all. Even after the show ended, Heidi has said in the past that Jason was actually trying to sell a tape and he started it. Her story has changed too many times.

[@carolinecarmack6497]

Spencer giving a toast was highly inappropriate. So let’s stop acting like he did the mature thing

[@ct6852]

Like when he was 'so mature' for calling out Hollie for throwing an olive at her brother trying to get his attention at the wedding dinner. When he's being mature, it's just another opportunity to be a douche...but an 'adult' douche.

[@carolinecarmack6497]

@@ct6852 right, as if he should ever be the one to handle any of these situations with people he’s pissed off. Definition of Condescending

[@jassssxox]

Audrina was being so unbiased and then once Heidi came on, she kind of switched up. Pls stop kissing Heidi’s a$$ and speak your own truth.

[@anatvtime4323]

Its because Jen is a liar... she didn't want to admit that she kissed Brody..like girl..... its been years. Grow up . If it happend it happend admit it and move on. I can't stand Jen. Never liked her.. Alsoo.... can you keep the producer on and take out Heidi.. he brings more positive vibez to the podcast

[@IronChefAwesome]

Never thought I'd say this but I see why Heidi told Lo first. Lo was a fresh set of eyes cuz she says excitedly "Isn't my boyfriend cute?! He asked me to move in with him." To Heidi it was like being in a relationship with a celebrity. And if she told Lauren, she wouldn't have shared in her excitement.

[@Amongusfuntimes]

Exxactly, she wanted aproval, wich is ok, just admit it wight?

[@aaronmorris4025]

This was a nice improvement!

[@alexandrabaez1002]

Audrina and Frankie are amazing! Love both! Good job

[@2010hassi]

Audrina: Well you guys have flirted in the past…(Lauren & Justin) Lauren: Flirting? Audrina, I would rather kill myself than hook up with Justin. He is disgusting. Justin…disgusts…me. Audrina: 👁️👄👁️

[@Prophet-Yosef]

Lol. Waaaaitttt! I’m hollering! 😭

[@anatvtime4323]

😂😂😂i remember that

[@tshay7]

A bit heavy handed on Lauren’s part….not a good look

[@scarlettletter3788]

​@@tshay7 Audrina had already asked her multiple times and wouldn't take her word for it. How else can she communicate that she would never do that lol.

[@tshay7]

@@scarlettletter3788 idk it was a red flag for me. felt a bit overdone. love lauren, but i can see how it would be easy for her to avoid accountability be leveraging her "girl next door" reputation.

[@grojas27]

Sorry Audrina but you feeling skeptical of whether or not Justin Bobby and Lauren hooked up until this day shows that you didn’t believe Lauren in the end. Even after she told you she did not. I think you may be justifying your actions but it kind of alludes to why the friendship between you and Lauren did not last…lack of trust.

[@bellatrix4252]

Heidi still think that lauren still has the power over people even if the show ended years ago. Saying Andrew sign a contract to not saying anything against to lauren. I think lauren is so good at her time in the hills that heidi wants to be her.

[@melissajurado399]

Wish yall would call out heidi and audrina like this. Yall spent all this time to debunk jen as u should but wheres that energy when heidi plays victim & when audrina has selective memory!!!!!!!!!

[@katm7255]

So funny bc last episode when Jen was there they were all anti Lauren and pro Jen’s side and now they flip flop when Jen isn’t there and clearly believe a hookup between Jen and Brody happened

[@deemonroe]

There’s an EDIT right at 35:46 when Frankie backs Heidi into a corner

[@angelicaguerino]

Good eye!

[@moreadventure3627]

Wow

[@Amongusfuntimes]

I liked only the first 30 min. And Heidi.... sweetie, you proyect so much about your feelings of being from a small town while you talk about Jen... i aprecciate the producers presence

[@Amongusfuntimes]

37:42 ........

[@MsLibby76]

Why are you guys talking about "whether or not she was encouraged???" Heidi was all for it! How do you not remember that?

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

I wish Heidi wasn’t on the podcast so they would stop protecting her. Everyone can tell she’s lying and trying to change the narrative but they won’t say it to her face

[@super.mendezz]

I have to disagree about the spencer birthday party speech why OF ALL people he gives a speech and then he later admits it was with malicious intent and Lauren also says it’s unnecessary and not genuine, shes also not gonna intervene bc thats not in her nature to be rude this podcast is delusional n these producers are snakes 🐍

[@MsRutuke]

The best episode because it's the most accurate. The previous serries feel like weird mirrors whereas having a guest who's related with producing feels legit.

[@CharmedTrailers]

25:00 it could have headed that way but as we all know something very specific happens between season 2 and 3 that changes everything😂

[@paolaaramayo]

Good comeback! I liked it better! Hopefully you can maintain the energy (relax, less accusative) .....

[@livinglifewithlaura2256]

I’m confused because you have Kristen and Heidi saying most of the stuff was “fake” but this producer is saying no, not the case.

[@mckenziedolan4959]

I think Andrew (the producer here) only worked on the show up until a certain point. They've mentioned before that the earlier seasons were real, and as time went on things got more and more fake (i.e. why Kristen said that it was fake because she was on at the very end).

[@amaltheamyst]

First few seasons weren’t as “fake”. Later on it was. Kristen said recently that the cast just played around for a good story but it wasn’t real.

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

It’s pretty obvious watching that it was real when Lauren was on it and not real when Kristin was. Lauren was emotionally invested because this was her real life and real friends. She cried on camera and you could feel her emotions. When Kristin came on, she was just there to make a good tv show. She wasn’t emotionally involved, which is why she has remained friends with everyone. She saw it more as a job

[@hayerickson4361]

@@KylieVitelli-jf8cyActually I think after season 3 it became more “fake” or heavily produced. Lauren put a wall up and wouldn’t share her real life for the cameras.

[@Prophet-Yosef]

It got super fake like mid season 3. It was still enjoyable but I stopped watching I think around Lauren’s birthday boat party. It was too edited by then.

[@SandyGaliano]

Could more clips of scenes be used to make the podcast longer? Would’ve loved to see Spencer’s speech again. Heidi says they were all friends and Lauren liking Spencer. Would’ve loved to see them as friends, shame that wasn’t seen.

[@aprilfraze8764]

I recently rewatched. Lauren really was positive about Spencer until he began making the play for Audrina. Then there was the Playmate scene. Then her tune changed when she was trying to look out for Heidi. It doesn't seem like anything more than that except then Heidi brings the roses and says they are from Spencer and ditches her on her birthday for Spencer. Those sort of "jokes" are not the kind of jokes that seem like they would come from a friend.

[@scarlettletter3788]

I cant believe Audrina is STILL doubling down on the LC and Justin Bobby rumour which there has never been any proof of except someone she knows 'assumption' based on them being cordial. What an awful friend.

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

I think she really does believe it. She seems to genuinely think that the friend who told her this is not lying. Lauren and JB didn’t want to address it because it was an insulting accusation, not because they were trying to hide anything. But Audrina really doesn’t get it

[@scarlettletter3788]

@@KylieVitelli-jf8cy I know. It's sad. And if she always believed this rumour then why even be friends with Lauren again after that? She was happy to move past it and stay on the show but then when Lauren decides to distance herself from the cast Audrina decides to state it was definitely true in her book 🙄

[@kirstypoppy]

No offense im enjoying it more with just 2 hosts. I feel you dont need 3

[@davidmcmahonjr1990]

There's 4 now lol

[@kirstypoppy]

@David McMahonJr ah jeez yeah Heidi.i feel like it's OK to have hosts as long as they don't interrupt one another. 1 episode with jen on they were all talking at one point. But now I've noticed they don't cut e/o off as much.

I cant wait for "YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID HEIDIIIIIII"

[@heloise2229]

Omg sameee!!!

[@Random6015]

Same!! I Hope they bring Andrew on for this episode. Heidi squirmed when Andrew was there

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

39:58 that rumor was bullshit. Audrina is dumb for believing it and discussing it in interviews without any evidence, while Justin and Lauren were adamantly denying it. They said she was being delusional because it made no sense and was all heresay but she still won’t let it go. Also how obnoxious is it that Heidi is trying to push this false narrative by saying “oh and she got mad at Jen!” Also trying to insinuate that Andrew knew this happened and signed a contract so he couldn’t say anything about it. Andrew could tell it was fake.

[@moreadventure3627]

Exactly. What is wrong with Audrina?!

[@bellatrix4252]

​@@moreadventure3627heidi still believes that lauren has a power over people. that girl is insane delusional.

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

@@moreadventure3627 it’s weird that she states it as if it were a fact just because someone she trusts told her. If I were JB or Lauren I’d be so offended because it’s clear that she doesn’t trust them

[@melissaandrews197]

I don’t know why these girls even try. Everyone will love lauren no matter what, but they did agree to go on her show. Their time would be better spent doing just about literally anything else.

[@staciemeyer9649]

Heidi saying that Lauren should be friends with Jen now is ridiculous. Lauren doesn't have to be friends with anyone if she doesn't want to. Just because someone lives in your town and has kids the same age doesn't obligate anyone to be friends. Jen betrayed Lauren on more than one occasion. No strong woman needs to put up with that! And it's none of Heidi's business.

[@anatvtime4323]

I liked it when it was just brody .audrina and frankie.. this episode is gold please take heidi off we don't like her.

[@jadap00]

Wow i actually finished this episode ...😌

[@johndaveducusin7262]

why heidi is so happy when lauren got into a messy situation like justin bobby and lauren. but when brody and jen she literally denying and wash her hands not to drag her self down and lying. 😂😂 and saying andrew is sign in contract not to say anything againts lauren. Heidi is still think lauren has a power to all of people. Heidi is sad and pathetic until now. 😂😂

[@kellylewis3507]

Thank youuuuuuu soooo much for this episode keep the producer on his gonna say how it was they created the show .. and guess what his not speaking for Lauren .. or bringing her feelings or what she thought 👏🏽👏🏽.. This is what I’m talking about Thank youuuuuuu 👏🏽

[@36YearOldWoman]

I wanna know more about this Dino/Deano. Maybe the producer offered him a Birkin or something 😂

[@irisj.2601]

Yeii I love Andrew Perri ❤

[@deena8929]

Jen bunny is so protective and serious about making everyone think her and brody NEVER HOOKED UP or even kissed. Palease! Everyone knows that happend including brody and andrew . They both were there for the kiss. and there were multiple kisses.! Jen was and still is just paranoid and feels bad about what it did to lauren because even till this day, she still gets shit for it. Thats why she continues to lie and tries to convince every single person that has seen the show, Including the cast,producers, ect. That nothing happend. Not even the kiss that EVERYONE SAW!!! even till this day. She forces people to agree with her. "that NOTHING happend! Everyone was like. "Shut up, your lying lol."

[@kristingarrett3952]

Heidi is still so toxic.

[@osxow1]

This episodes need to last at least 10 minutes more

[@kirstypoppy]

Yeah it always seems to end too quickly

[@moreadventure3627]

Audrina you really think Lauren will hook up Justin Bobby?!? Smh

[@moreadventure3627]

Nobody talked to you because that was so stupid. Even the producer doesn’t know what you are talking about

[@Mel-jh3sz]

When it comes to Justin I don't trust him. He used to play a lot of mind games with women. I wouldn't put it past him if he got Dino to tell Audrina that he hooked up with Lauren to see how she would react. I don't think Justin liked Lauren that much so he may have done it to break up Audrina's friendship with her. He might have even wanted to hook up with Lauren in the future and knew that nothing would happen while she was still friends with Audrina because Lauren would never betray Audrina like that. Seeing how broken Lauren was over Audrina not trusting her you could see she was telling the truth. Justin on the other hand was a Player and Dino was his mate so I wouldn't trust a word that came out of either one of their mouths. Guys are immature d**ks at that age and the majority of them can't be trusted. If there are any red flags in the early stages get rid of them. We all know that Justin was a giant red flag.

[@ashleyyllovee]

the way frankie said “really?” towards heidi when she said she didn’t think the jen fallout was gonna be as catastrophic. hmmmmm it came off like why are you lying lol

[@KylieVitelli-jf8cy]

Totally. And Heidi kept talking about it as if Lauren were still into Brody instead of acknowledging that it was messed up because her and Jen were supposed to be Lauren’s friends.

[@SophieScott-e7y]

Love this episode. It is great having a producer on. P.S I think Frankie needs a wee as his legs are wobbling about constantly haha

[@mayafrode7794]

I like the lighter background screen.

[@TheFedoras93]

Stop with the Justin and Lauren thing. It’s so False

[@pistachiosandpopcorn7146]

I bet Brody is glad he’s not here for this episode lol he doesn’t like conflict

[@Harperangel59]

Lol there will be next season because he blames sex tapes rumors on Spencer and Heidi and Heidi blames rumors on Brody. It’ll be interesting how that’s explained

[@sarahgrant2027]

Is there anymore Hills New Beginnings being filmed or already but not on here yet to watch?

[@samantha240]

Hahah Frankie, how did you fall for Heidi’s fake call from Spencer? Heidi told Audrina she was going to do that earlier in the episode 😅

[@moreadventure3627]

Audrina later turned her back on Lauren. Fame and money got into her head

[@Yez18]

To me it seems likes Heidi and Spencer were the ones that could not be trusted….they were the ones that were lying to everyone regarding their relationship, the cheating/flirting rumors and were the ones doing all the instigating “to add drama to the show”. Of course a real friend is going to be upset and be protective of her BFF, but somehow Lauren is the bad friend!!?! For all we know, Heidi and Spencer could have been trying to steal the spotlight and make the Hills about themselves. Just saying.

[@ItsJustChristmasCookie]

I would have liked if Andrew talked more. Towards the end he became a glorified accessory.

[@ch_mo_1051]

When Heidi arrived to start lying

[@jasonenglisbe9646]

In regards to Lauren and Jen B, it seems like some of these people can't understand that Lauren moved on from all things with the show. She has remained friends with a few people from before the show, but once The Hills ended she totally moved on because she never knew what was genuine. Easy to understand.

[@lavaanyagarg]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoWbhnx-fLKBmc0 this spoof based word to word on the real episode is evidence that Jen Bunny did do what Lauren accuses her of because she doesn’t correct her when she spells it out in detail. In fact she apologizes and admits that she messed up with Brody. So let’s stop dancing around the topic like it’s still “confusing” and up in the air Audrina, Heidi and Frankie… or do you and Jen have the same amnesia problem?

[@freepixi29]

Jen Bunny YOU HOOKED UP WITH HIM STOP lying trying to save face, It's obvious you had an "agreement" and Brody is still trying to take MOST of it but won't admit to a simple kiss? Says a lot. Jen you should of NEVER come on this show. YOU DID BACK STAB YOUR FRIEND, Let it be! your reputation is forever broadcasted and just because you came on this show doesn't mean you look any better. THEY WERE IN IT FOR A CHECK! realize that move on.

[@sophievaka2645]

Agreed - could have been so good too but needs more consistency.

[@kirstyevensen7557]

Does anyone else find these podcasts a little awkward and flat at times? Was so excited when I heard about this, but something not quite working. This one was particularly awks.

[@andiplotts6004]

Why hasn’t Spencer been on the podcast? I want to know more about The Hills - New Beginnings!!

[@chanelbags435]

My head hurts with this episode. It makes me believe Jen and Heidi did something shady.

[@kat0726]

There seems to be a theme in the comments, that the Podcast is better without Heidi 🤔 😉