Skyrim Paid Mods Update is WORSE Than We Thought

[@Apoqsi]

Skyrim's recent paid mods update is worse than we thought... *Buy Skyrim on GOG (Affiliate):* af.gog.com/partner/Apoqsi?as=1782870416 *How to Block Steam Updates:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmmpZZeHlLZ5apo *TIMESTAMPS:* 0:00 - Skyrim's New Update is Worse Than We Thought 0:25 - New Update is Coming in Early 2024 to Resolve Issues 1:14 - How to Avoid Future Updates for Skyrim SE/AE 1:34 - Paid Creations Will Allow Achievements & Trophies 1:59 - Big Restriction on Verified Creators & Creation Kit Upgrades 3:13 - New Patch to Resolve Major Issues 3:24 - Broken Steam Integration & Achievements (How to Fix) 4:23 - How to Fix Mod Issues on Update 1.6.1130 5:13 - How to Fix SSE Engine Fixes Plugins Disabled Bug 7:18 - How to Earn Achievements with Mods Enabled 7:35 - How to Fix SkyUI Compatability Issues 8:15 - A Quick Note on Downgrading Skyrim SE/AE 9:23 - Skyrim GOG Update Coming Soon 9:52 - Skyrim VR Gets Some Exciting News 10:53 - How to Fix Creations Menu Crash on PS5/Xbox 11:46 - Will Skyrim Paid Mods Be Another Modpocalypse 14:00 - Conclusion

[@5226-p1e]

It's funny how the Gog version is really the best version at this point, it's the one that Bethesda is the least going to mess with, I think it's funny that you have an affiliate code for it, it means that Gog is actually paying attention to the situation and they're taking advantage of the situation so that people could buy a bunch of crap from them, just so that people don't have to be in this screwed up situation where they can't even play their game because Bethesda just can't hold their horses on their stupid updates.

[@5226-p1e]

I got to say I actually like how g o g has two separate versions of the same game, so if I want to buy special edition and only special edition, I could buy that for maybe $8 right now on their store, it's been marked down from 40 bucks but holy crap, then if I want the anniversary edition which most people avoid right now is roughly $14 but it's on sale as well so it's roughly 45 or $50 or something like that, and that's the easiest one to not screw up right now, if you're not a very technical person and you have difficulties doing certain things through steams fix, and you don't know if that fix that you're doing on Steam will even stick properly, it might just be easier to go to Gog anyway and just get that version of the game that won't be getting screwed up by Bethesda anytime soon.

[@5226-p1e]

Oh I got to say I like how your Notepad shows up with a black screen, that's perfect for your eyes unlike most of these applications from the 1990s, Windows has been running Windows 95 on each and every program up until this point, I'm assuming you're on like Windows 11 or something, cuz Windows 10 still has tell bright white background for when you're using Notepad, but I suppose you could just find an app third party app with no pad on it that has a black screen.

[@5226-p1e]

Yeah I can already tell people would benefit from just getting the game from the Gog version, which makes it so you don't have to be as tech savvy in order to fix the problems, cuz the version that's on GOG doesn't have any of the Screwed Up nonsense but that's Bethesda recently, so it's far easier to mess with that version then the one on Steam sadly. It feels like the one on Steam is going to be messed up for a while, and if another stupid update comes from Bethesda even though you did the fixes, it could have probably happened again, so you are better off just getting the Gog version regardless.

[@gaminglazarus4343]

hi good youtube video. best thimg is play the elder scrolls 5- skyrim legendary edition with no mods and have no game crash . try this roleplaying games (playstation , xbox , pc)- kingdoms of amalour- reckoning - fate edition , dragon dogma- dark arisen , two worlds 2- game of the year edition , divinty 2- the dragon knight saga , dragon dogma 2, avowed , diablo 3- eternal collection , shadows awakening

[@Superintendent8814]

Bethesda on Starfield "We'll let the players fix the game and world after putting in minimal effort outselves" Bethesda on Skyrim "The players already have everything working so let's constantly break it with pointless updates"

[@tarektechmarine8209]

Don't forget how even modders are giving up starfield.

[@mikaelst.vixenberg475]

They have stepped up their scummy level, haven't they?

[@oorto1393]

Nothing in Starfield is even worth fixing

[@inquerion8867]

@@oorto1393 It's basically TES 2: Bugerfall in space. They returned to 1996 and boring procedurally generated content. Even in 1990s this game was often called "wide, big but empty and boring". Starfield is the same.

[@angelgard]

This perfectly sums up how I'm feeling about Bethesda to a T

[@avallonkao7764]

Bethesda, a company that after failure after failure can only go back to a fkin 12 years old SINGLEPLAYER game and still update it just to try milk it even more. Pathetic company.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

They're like the 35 year old, former High School Football Player who keeps trying to relive their glory days

[@Primarch19th]

Pay Pay Pay Pay Pay Pay Pay

[@johnjaeger2968]

​@@bulkvanderhuge9006"remember that touchdown I made that I bring up every time I see you?" -Todd Howard

[@paulbantick8266]

@@johnjaeger2968 He couldn't hold a candle to Al Bundy and his four touchdowns for Polk High

[@powerbeard5653]

then they complain and act like its the consumers fault when people criticize them. Worse than pathetic.

[@gameroxi]

Bethesda: Give us money Player: You broke my game Bethesda: See you next year

[@Apoqsi]

Haha, it feels that way. But understandable with the holidays. They have been updating the developer testing build during this time though, so the patch should hopefully be early January.

[@joshbyers9394]

Welcome to Brokethesda

[@Ay-xq7mj]

Doesnt matter people still update and make mods for the new versions so bethesda will never stop. I asked people on forums why anyone should be updating their mods or making mods on 1.3 update and only answer back i got was shiling and cognitive dissonance. Skyrim is basically screwed unless Bethesda finds another sink for normies to waste money.

[@darrelljohnson1319]

Stingy scrooges at Microsoft give nothing , they don't even pay taxes on billions a year in bailouts that never end

[@HamHamHampster]

@@Ay-xq7mj The people who are tired of this have already quit modding after Anniversary. So we are left with nothing but white knights.

[@gaius2451]

Bethesda is the only company that consistently releases updates that make their games unplayable for months at a time

[@killer8217gaming]

10+ year old games at that. Its so frustrating cause us who love modding skyrim always have to deal with their stupid decisions and downgrade the game and look for many different mod versions to see which one is right and which is broken

[@rynlo93]

The stupidest thing is that before their “update” most of the problems had already been fixed by modders and, in fact, the game did not need this update. They just wanted to expand a platform with paid mods using a plausible excuse (the update regarding esl files is really a good solution, but it is crazy that it took them almost ten years to do this).

[@erickfw197]

​@@rynlo93 exactly, they just didn' want to make an update that was JUST the store as it would look bad (guess what it still does). Also just a correction, it's been more than 10 years, a little more than 12

[@cameron818]

For heavily modded games not THE Game. It's their Game. And people that cry about them supporting a 10 yo title and the fact they don't shut out the modding community but people still find a reason to cry are they worst.

[@theobell2002]

Maybe just go play an actual good game instead of playing a mediocre one that requires mods to be half-decent.

[@The_Time_Change]

This game is 12 years old. And no other bugs or glitches have been fixed? They just keep breaking it.

[@ASavageEye]

Actually if you knew what you were talking about you would know they fixed a whole bunch of bugs and issues with this update and have stated that more fixes are on the way. If you are referring to bugs within the game like broken quests etc then let me ask you this...why should they? They have provided full mod support, including tools for modders, and mod creators have already fixed every single one of them. Every one of those fixes can be downloaded and installed completely free of charge. So again I ask you...why should they spend money to fix problems which have already been fixed? Oh and lets not forget that if they did decide to make some huge bug fix and sort out every little possible issue within the game then they would have to send that out to us, and how would they have to do that?...in another fucking update which would break all our mods AGAIN! What's worse is that any such fix would not just break the usual mods, SKYUI and SKSE etc but this time it would directly impact potentially hundreds of other mods which are built around the game without any such fixes. I mean one of the biggest, if not the THE biggest, mods out there is USSEP and that mod would be totally wrecked by any such fix from Bethesda. Do you have any idea how many mods rely on USSEP? Learn the facts before you make stupid comments but more importantly do yourself a favour and stop hating on things...you will be a much happier person.

[@dreamsofcosmicoceans8105]

And that's why they will keep releasing broken shit, because the community will continue to fix it for them without holding them accountable. Congrats, you're part of the problem.@@ASavageEye

[@ibrahimkuyumcu2649]

@@dreamsofcosmicoceans8105 How do we hold them accountable?

[@adryld25]

Yessir, can't shout after being staggered gotta block for a sec before shouting again and the fire wyrms introduced in the dragonborn dlc are hostile towards the player and friendly NPCs and they don't attack enemies! Truly a masterpiece.

[@Naruku2121]

@@ibrahimkuyumcu2649 By stop buying their broken slop

[@TheMeticulousMoo]

The "Verified Creator" restriction on using 3rd party tools feels like it will just make the paid mods worse. There is no way that tools provided by Bethesda will be competitive with other tools (e.g. Photoshop). Hell, Bethesda probably used 3rd party tools to make the game.

[@Apoqsi]

It’s both a legality and morality issue. When money is involved, using pirated third party software (which a lot of mod authors do) becomes a much more serious business. And when using third party open source / modding software, it is mostly a morality thing. Using a free tool made by the community to sell content without permission from those who made the tools wouldn’t be cool with a lot of people. BGS would have used officially licensed software to create the game. And yeah, I do believe this will greatly lower the quality or flexibility for paid creations.

[@shamdonnosnikta9570]

@@Apoqsi fair enough, but the third party are still probably are going to work better.

[@DFX2KX]

@@Apoqsi Yeah, straight up I don't think a great deal of things would even be possible. You can't add any new textures to the game, because that'd involve a texture editor of some sort. Editing NIF files becomes impossible just about, manual record fixing.... They're going to be hard pressed to get anything worth buying with this.

[@StarfieldBattlefront]

I've never used paid mods. They don't look very good compared to what the modding community has. Bethesda has some big decisions to make. They need to decide whether they're going to knock their shit off and be better or go out of business.

[@nickzukowski4106]

@@DFX2KX I was wondering the same thing, like how some of the new creations were added (like the new weapons) without using any third party tools.

[@ArchangelAries]

I foresee a litany of "teaser" mods, where the authors release limited versions of their mods for free and then a popup on screen lets you know to get the mod's full features you have to pay for the full mod in the creations store.

[@johnjaeger2968]

And it'll break your save if you don't keep using it

[@Quickmart4]

I'm done. No more bethesda.

[@Redslayer86]

Im so glad I learned how to lock out the updates on steam after the previous patch.

[@PibbXtraGaming]

Dude, this is the first time I've come across your channel and i absolutely LOVE that you actually detailed fixes instead of simply adressing an issue exists.. Big props for that, you earned a sub from me 👏🏻

[@Apoqsi]

Do my best to offer some value and not leave people in the dark. Glad you appreciated that and hope you enjoy the future videos. 😁

[@paulbantick8266]

I used his how to downgrade to1.6.640 and update blocker ('read only' fix) advice. It was and is, a god send.

[@Vert_GreenHeart]

It's 2024... And we're still talking about Skyrim on a daily basis, a game that came out more than decade ago all the way back in 2011. Just let that sink in for a moment.

[@mindassassin]

Modders had basically fixed everything worth fixing, so Bethesda had to re-break everything.

[@strategogod]

Funny how anti paid mods elianora was until she got paid lol

[@Linklic]

Elianora is a hack, all she does is make overly-produced, poorly optimized houses full of clutter that just stick out like a sore thumb and do not integrate with the rest of the world at all. She's a relic of old Skyrim modding history that people refuse to let go because they pay very little attention to what good mods are.

[@newyoutubenamesareretarded]

she was always a hack tbh she got even worse now with her "i sleep with the owner :D" attitude lol its funny how much getaway power you can get when you sleep with the top hojo

[@princeretro]

I'm surprised Bethesda didn't hire Arthmoor instead.

[@cendresaphoenix1974]

​@@Linklic I never actually liked her mods because she anchored things in place. I play Skyrim like a toddler in a toy store so her homes were always a big annoyance and I didn't use them often.

[@SuperEarthHelldiver]

i joined 1.5.97 gang now, can't suffer more than this

[@5226-p1e]

Yeah I'm starting to see the need for using the Gog version of the game, that's the least likely to be messed with by Bethesda at this point, and I'm not even a Gog user but I could see doing it just for this game and to not go through all the bullshit that we're going through on Steam because Bethesda just can't keep their dick in their pants.

[@Draugoth]

This is the way. I know certain mod authors (*cough* Arthmoor) are hellbent on having us all go to latest AE versions, but I cant risk it. My list is 1500 deep. I cant bring myself to redo everything again for the sake of a version change.

[@taps8781]

Exactly. I'll just sit here in the corner with my 1100 mods that still work.

[@5226-p1e]

@@Draugoth does he really want to force that on people just to play his mods? i'm not sure his mods are enough for me to make that leap.

[@Draugoth]

@@5226-p1e Yeah. He's got this whole thing about not supporting older versions of Skyrim, which was the reason more or less for him leaving Nexus. I get not wanting to support older versions of mods, but at least keep them available if we want em. I don't get it, but that's Arthmoor for ya. Luckilly, if you scour reddit you can find links to hidden archived versions you can use. That's how I found a version of USSEP for 1.5.97.

[@la_engineer]

I don't know what the problem is? Modders love to fix Bethesda games, so the made you a gift: "Here fix it again and give us money"

[@ddsjgvk]

This. I don't see why PC gamers complain about any game when they just mod the shit out of it say one. Or any bugs as they just patch it themselves and then just tell everyone to get a PC because you can mod and fix the game. So if anything then just modding to fix the game just bit them in the butt

[@ddsjgvk]

I would have the mind set. Well we can put out a broken game as there will always be bugs and the fans will just mod it anyways major or Minor fixes People also bought horse armor.

[@mitri5389]

​@@ddsjgvkok poverty box user...

[@matthewhearne7200]

Bethesda has lost my support with Starfield and now this bullshit. Way-to-go BGS.

[@longhairedcello4109]

Im just so lost and frustrated I literally JUST bought skyrim on my steam deck, excited to finally try some mods that arent "bethesda approved" only to find that everything was great until just recently and now im STILL stuck to only whatever mods are in the creation club, half of which cost money

[@Apoqsi]

If you can wait, then I'd wait until the next patch and for the mods to be updated for it. If you can't wait -- then you'd have to follow my downgrade video but you'd need to download the depots on a PC and transfer them over to the Steam Deck (according to some Steam Deck users that commented about successfully following the tutorial that way).

[@longhairedcello4109]

@@Apoqsi thanks, I'll check it out

[@arashimifune2853]

@@longhairedcello4109 I am not very savvy with more complicated mods (some are way too much for me), but that downgrade manual video is very clear and easy to follow. I can play the game

[@ni7suj]

They think they can just take an old game, break it, say they will fix it, and charge for others that fix it. Why do people even give any ounce of care to them anymore? They are the worst. I will never go for another product of theirs again. Moved on for good. Todd and Bethesda are a meme and deserve every bit of it.

[@GrimGalore]

I'm done with Bethesda.

[@YangBalanceYin]

Welcome to the club. We don't have cookies, but your wallet and overall gamer mental health will thank you.

[@richardmcgowan1651]

The general incompetence in Bethesda is just getting worse. Something that was always there I'll give you that. Jobs seem to be handed off to people that don't have a clue. Or management of the staff is so bad its impossible to get anything done.

[@sungiant2000]

They've been incompetent for a long time. Under Zenimax's leadership in the late 2010's they made several horrible decisions, but even after being given "freedom" to do whatever they want by Microsoft (as in not being forced to make multiplayer or live service games) it seems like Bethesda didn't suddenly become competent. Bleeding experienced staff doesn't help, either. Todd and whoever else is left from the senior staff need to get things together and stop making so many boneheaded decisions. I hate paid mods as much as the next person but the thing that bothers me most about this situation is how poorly all of this is done on a technical level. Seriously, it's NOT that hard. Especially when you have access to the original source code and internal documentation...

[@Himitsuuu]

Just downgrade to the SE 1.5.* update (the last one before Anniversary Edition) and lock out game updates. I am modding my Skyrim rn and this version has by far the most support. Just remember to make sure what version of the mod you are downloading and ur good to go.

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

This is what I did. I finally have a stable modlist with over 2000 plugins. I get a random crash every 50 hours or so. I can deal with that. I refuse to update Skyrim again, especially for something I'll never use.

[@Himitsuuu]

@@MjollTheLioness-o4y yeah, this build is the most stable thus far and as far as I am concerned people should always revert to before AE

[@myrkflinn4331]

Headsup tho, on backporting or downgrading, that you might mess up some update AE files and get a "lookup failed" message in dialogue

[@Himitsuuu]

@@myrkflinn4331 havent run into it myself but thanks for The info, are There fixes online already?

[@im_azraelle]

i tried downgrading mine but then it was incompatible with SKSE. so i deleted it and tried to get the compatible SKSE version, but it still wasn’t working and i was reading online that i should try verifying Skyrim’s files on Steam, but whenever i do that it seems to auto update back to the latest version again and ignores my downgrade mod. and since it’s being seen as the AE now instead of SE, my Mod Organizer won’t even open anymore. just completely broken 😖

[@LabMatt]

The community needs to stop fixing their games for them. Only then will they actually try.

[@Apoqsi]

Well, they seem to be trying now. With updates coming (with fixes) for Skyrim, Fallout 4, and Starfield. But we’ll see how it pans out with all of them.

[@mups4016]

​@@Apoqsithey're not going to fix blood on the ice.

[@ASavageEye]

@@mups4016 of course they wont, it has already been fixed in a dozen ways by the community. The community has fixed literally everything so whilst I would love to see Bethesda release a full fix for the entire game I am intelligent enough to realise they don't need to and therefore wont.

[@inquerion8867]

@@ASavageEye They are breaking free mods on purpose. They want $ from paid mods sales. After Starfield flop they are in trouble and Zenimax/Microsoft may shut down their studio if TES 6 flops too.

[@ASavageEye]

@@inquerion8867 There is absolutely zero evidence to support any of that. There is in fact evidence to the opposite. They have integrated SKSE into the game now and they have provided additional game resources so modders can make mods which are more lore firendly and which can be used on Playstation. What about any of that makes your conspiracy ridden brain think they are trying to damage mods? There is also zero evidence they will be closed down. Despite all the issues with Starfield you have to remember that in terms of money the game was a massive success and TES6 will be even more successful due to its pre-existing following. Companies down shut down things that make massive amounts of money, thats just stupid.

[@matthewmadden8943]

I appreciate you informing us about the current situation regarding Skyrim modding.

[@ZephrusPrime]

It's time for more GoG Skyrim support.

[@perpetualnegativity9862]

I'd rather not have my game be broken for months, thanks 😂 Thankfully, I use the offline version and the only issue I have is not being able to test my mods I am creating on that. Yes, I have the steam version (my son's) but he uses a different controller setup that annoys the piss out of me

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

Expanded esl range is very nice but we've backported that to the previous update already lol "1.6.640"

[@illusiveman3325]

Note: backport works on 1.5.97 too

[@marrob6995]

Who needs 4000 plugins? I have enough mods with 1500 plugins.

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

@@marrob6995 Because I can make plugins with more than 2000 new records a ESL or ESPFE in xEdit now. It's not about more plugins its about having more mods not take up the 255 plugin limit. I think the new max ESL record cap is like 4000 now.

[@Hardcrafter2807]

@@marrob6995 Honestly, compatibility patches take up the vast majority of ESL space. Let's say you have 1000 mods installed, when you add on compatibility patches, the number of plugins doubles at the very least. Especially those "Ultra-Modded" Playthroughs that make Skyrim play like a FromSoft game, with completely overhauled towns and cities, and so many other changes to the game.

[@KDriz1]

If we break Skyrim, maybe they will come play Starfield…

[@charlesdanaa8514]

Haha, you know what.....I wouldn't put it past them 😆

[@lokiago2879]

WTF!! Stop trying to cash in on and breaking a freaking 12-year-old game to inconvenience it's loyal fanbase, we are not buying and switching to Starfield!!!

[@courier7049]

The issue is not as much how many free mods will be out there but how often will Bethesda push updates that break said free mods as their perspective is that users should only use "approved and safe" content. Starfield shown pretty well how out of touch they are with reality and skyrim usage as a lab rat gives a hint of what they will focus on with TES6.

[@PixelMurder]

Just for the records: It does an "update" of the game and CK when you start the CK for Skyrim. I could restore everything from a backup and remove the malware, and I'm playing offline from Steam since then. Bite me, Todd. BITE ME.

[@RobVespa]

The bizarre "third-party tool usage" restriction is baffling. I wonder what the truth about this rule is. Hopefully, most mod authors will continue to provide their work for free. I don't like the Creation Club. It's sole purpose is to passively generate money for Bethesda while also attracting more people to play, which generates more money for Bethesda.

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

I imagine they don't want anything on "Kreation Klub" that has dependencies on anything else, otherwise they would be selling stuff that could be rendered useless if the mod or 3rd party utility it depends on is taken down.

[@Apoqsi]

Legality (using pirated unlicensed software) and morality (using community tools and profiting without permission)

[@bulkvanderhuge9006]

@@Apoqsi Ah, that makes sense

[@maskedman2210]

I think the "It just works" song now needs a slight update. We'll BREAK it through microtransactions instead of fix it seems appropriate. I'm open to suggestions here, I'm no song writer. Thoughts???

[@scottboyer8450]

This is why I use GOG versions and never update until I see what's been fixed. Its very likely my modded skyrim will never be updated again.

[@AndrewHahaLee]

Bethesda - Adding many junk, fixing nothing.

[@santoven]

Once again, the decision not to upgrade to the Anniversary Edition has paid off. Off to play Skyrim.

[@hugoboncar]

I was DYING to be able to download the Unofficial Skyrim Patch via the game launcher without it having to prevent me from working towards achievements. I'm just trying to play their fucking game without anxiety, and they won't fucking let me do that without making my characters unable to complete achievements. That's insane.

[@BlackAntoITA]

As a huge Skyrim Fan Bethesda once again messed up so bad and i'm so upset about this, they should have kept their hands off from this game.

[@72isb]

Worst thing was the last patch just to add a paywall on mods you already had and put modding behind 6 months so they can make money off them i still havent updated my skyrim and have 200+ mods installed and still enjoying the game, It would have to be an amazing mod that would make me feel it is worth updating and paying insane money just to get skyrim how it was before it last updated it is as insane as fallout 76`s pay for single play. Most anticipated skyrim mod : remove mods storefront

[@DivineFalcon]

Bethesda is the only company that breaks more than they fix with their updates.

[@alphabros5226]

I must heavily thank you for both sharing news of new patche notes for next year, as well as providing fixes for some of the major issues that are currently happening.

[@duffborgwardt8512]

Bethesda owns thousands of hours of my time. It's sad to see that this is the state of affairs. When I very first started modding Fallout 4, your F4SE video was the best. I can still type "apo" into my search bar and your name comes up. I still watch your videos about Bethesda, but I have completely given up on them. I pre-ordered....shit...I can't even think...Starfield. I had low expectations, and it broke those. In a bad way. I played for 20 hours, tops. Thank goodness for Baldur's Gate 3.

[@ghola82]

It's Todd punishing us for mocking his so-called "masterpiece", Memefield!!! :C

[@Immopimmo]

Yes, it's the wrath of Todd.

[@ShaggyShagz13]

If you bought any of the 25 versions of Skyrim that included future content labeled as a, b, or c, sadly BGS renamed them to e, f, g which are exactly the same but don't qualify as what BGS owes you. Yes all updates could have used the existing system but fk you, it just works.

[@AzorAhaiReal]

They still haven’t fixed shit ffs it’s almost February.. my god Bethesda is pathetic

[@Draugoth]

Thankfully I have an old version of 1.5.97 that is a NON-STEAM and runs outside of it. I've kept it for years for this very reason. I kinda wish they'd quit patching the game, seems like they break it more each time and its such a headache to update or wait for updates to mods that are version specific.

[@hm4steve]

It seems that Bethesda would not survive without modders. Considering how many times Bethesda has shot themselves in the foot.

[@kailenmitchell8571]

Until complex mods with dependent mods can be put out in this store, the store will always be lesser than just modding straight form from nexus. I stopped updates before this fiasco and will just play my old load order until all this blows over or permanently if necessary.

[@Apoqsi]

And that will likely never be possible due to the headaches it would cause when it comes to paid products. Which is just another reason free and open modding isn’t going anywhere. 😊

[@adolfopla1217]

Oof, the man can’t catch a brake, he see a light in the end of the tunnel, “oh, you support paid mods, BGS boot licker” , he shares some concerns about paid mods and the creation engine, “oh you are a hater!” People need to chill out. Now im team hate BGS, I suck at modding, really bad. So o need the help of the collections, wich now is completely broken. BGS not only published that joke of a game that is Starfield, goes and brake their cashcow AND make it harder for their best employees (the modders) to fix it. Nice going BGS. PS: if he was talking too fast , you can slow down the video 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@spikytoaster]

Lmao exactly. That other person is definitely just some braindead hate watcher. I clicked on thier account and they have commented the same type of trash on his other vids. So wierd lol

[@Apoqsi]

Yeah, it's funny how I am a "BGS paid shill" one minute and "BGS hater" the next. I do somewhat agree that I was probably talking too fast in this video though. Now, I normally don't ban people... but turns out they had been harassing people in my comments across my entire channel over the past few days (even those not blaming Bethesda). Criticizing me? Cool. It's just extra engagement and there can (sometimes) be a bit of truth in it, even if greatly overexaggerated. But attacking my viewers? That is a no from me.

[@GhostOfDusk]

BGS Bethesda Glizzy Suckers

[@Redslayer86]

​@@ApoqsiOmg thats exactly what a Bethesda paid shill hater troll 4000 would do.

[@saladinbob]

I don't think the issue is so much a perceived threat to free modding, rather the principle behind a belief that mod should be free; and whilst this may not be a threat _now_ never underestimate Bethesda's greed and desire to exploit the modding community to make money off a game that should have died over a decade ago but didn't because the modders dedicated hours to unpaid work. The majority of us are not against modders making money, we simply believe that should never be a requirement for access and a lot of us do subscribe to the patreons of our favourite mod authors as a thank you for their work. BGS want to go down the road of microtransactions, doing so will destroy their company.

[@jacobyrassilon]

Paid mods are just thinly disguised micro transactions that use mod authors as shields. Bethesda has been trying to set this precedent since Oblivion horse armor.

[@mitri5389]

Paid mods still pays better than the 50 dollars a month donations. People love to talk bad about paid mods as if those making them are slaves or not seen as developers... and the most vocal against paid mods have dozens if not hundreds of games they bought on steam with zero hours on...

[@bdleo300]

After 10+ years and this recent terror by Bethesda, people should really move on.... or hoist the jolly roger 🏴‍☠🏴‍☠ In any case, Todd can f himself.

[@trex9263]

All these "game breaking" updates are easily avoidable by not allowing updates. There is a downgrade patcher which is is as easy as one click. Set Steam to "only update game when launched but only launch Skyrim with the script extender, SKSE. There are tons of videos to get you set up.

[@myrkflinn4331]

Shiat, here we go again... *clutches onto my se and tries to protect it from the update monster with my life*

[@YourPalKindred]

I downpatched to 1.6.640 and it will be a long time until I update it. Sick of having to update my several hundred mod list every time.

[@FreedomInTruth777]

Maybe Bethesda should just leave well enough alone and get busy on Elder Scrolls 6.

[@joecci1]

Everyone do the following to prevent automatic updates: 1) Open your steam library 2) right click on your version of skyrim 3) Select "Properties" 4) Select "Updates" 5) Set "Automatic updates" to "Only Update when I launch the game" 6) Set "background downloads" to "Never allow background downloads" 7) Backup your entire skyrim game's directory So long as you don't launch the game through steam you should be fine. Make sure you use SKSE through MO2 or Vortex. If something goes wrong you can restore your game directory using the backup you made.

[@bobbywasabi5982]

i rolled my version back to 1.6.640 but the problem is that some of my creation club stuff upon reinstalling did not work. namely a favorite of mine, necromantic grimoire. a few others wont work either and now i cant fix it.

[@paulmorris5166]

I am done with Bethesda. I will never buy another game from them. I have frozen my FO4 and Skyrim with all the great mods. Thanks for the video.

[@thetalantonx]

This is the first video of yours that I'm catching and I have to say your positivity and enthusiasm in the face of admitted challenges earned a subscription. I look forward to learning from your content and finding ways to make the most of the games I enjoy.

[@lavishty_]

Yeah my Skyrim is ruined now. I can’t play without it crashing, (I play on Xbox) when I try to download stuff from creation club like mods it straight up crashes and when I try to go back into creation club it doesn’t let me press any buttons, (like I can’t use the search engine or even see my load order.) idk how they did this-

[@tespenkr9924]

First, Stanfield doesn't sell. Now they break SSE. Press F to disrespect.

[@RangerHouston]

_The creation club mods on Fallout 4 have caused a game breaking bug they still haven’t fixed and it’s been like 4 years._

[@dibel3669]

Not a SINGLE mod gets recognized in game :')

[@VicktorGrimmagard]

All the fixes I did for my SE back in 2016 now back in AE after my last update; Illia's follower bug, nameless bouncer, double Dawnbreaker; I'm worried Miraak will be glitched as well..

[@thibautguillet1599]

the downgrade patcher works, those having issues with it simply didn't use backported extended esl support, when using both there's no issue.

[@Apoqsi]

He said himself it is being rewritten due to issues, but (after I sleep) I’ll be sure to re-look into it and hit up Halgari to see if that turned out to be the case. Thanks for mentioning it either way!

[@thibautguillet1599]

@@Apoqsi Yes it did say that BEFORE the backported extended esl support went out, by the way the depot downgrade process he details is incomplete, it doesn't take in account the translations. In fact the issue didn't come from the downgrade process but from the lack of support for the new file header.

[@xxarcangelxx143]

​@@Apoqsiwhat about the down patcher by Guarmanda?

[@akamadmaxx8432]

Not sure why Script extender isn’t vanilla skyrim at this point

[@Ikarusu]

>fixing a number issues >none are related to the update breaking the plugin mods and you still need downgrade

[@indeedgaminghere401]

I’m glad someone else said this, free mods are still a thing. And the only way the new paid mod system will mean anything is if modders use it. But if they decide not use it, nothings really change 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@NotThatBob]

On steam, I set updates to (update when game is started) and I include (Never update in the background). This halts all updates. Most developers don't care what effect their patches have on your game.

[@calebviator9586]

I love your content I always prefer to specifically watch your opinions on new updates thank you for your hard work to produce these nice videos

[@Apoqsi]

I truly appreciate that! 😊

[@schizoid9847]

Bethesda will not see another cent from me. They're dead. They're pathetic. Now you could easily say 'Don't let the door hit your a$$ on the way out..' But a lot of other people feel this way.

[@alexbishop5004]

Bethesda is like... "Hey, how we can get some more Ls before 2023 is over?"

[@dramanexus]

Thought this was just gonna be a rant about the update, but actually, really helpful information for both those who updated and those who didn't. Thanks so much for this! I'm in the second category, and based on what I'm hearing here, I think I'll hold off updating until after that next update. (Hope it's the last for a while. Why won't BGS just quit it? Go muck up Starfield and leave our actually working game alone!)

[@kaisergray9413]

It wasn't enough that Bethesda killed Fallout... but they had to go back and kill Skyrim too.

[@oufukubinta]

The issue I'm experiencing is that no matter what I do Skyrim is always in windowed mode (yes I've made sure that windowed mode is disabled in the launcher options). I've done everything short of reinstalling Windows

[@larryblack3877]

Get Beth INI it allows you to set a lot of the configs without using the launcher

[@Bubba1025]

Gotta love to hate Bethesda just casually trying to destroy their most hardcore community AGAIN

[@DeenaBrown-u8j]

Thank you for the fix info. I've looked everywhere for anyone to talk about these current issues and you're the only one.

[@Dantprime]

Bethesda fails to make paid mods happen on starefield (they forgot to make a game) so they're coming back to skyrim yet again.

[@TheLordVagrantWells]

Cheers for the Engine Fixes fix! Couldn't load a save before - some nonsense about incorrect mod headers - now it loads the save and immediately crashes. Progress! 😆

[@Bluesonofman]

Honestly until mod creators figure out how to keep their mods from breaking, I might as well just stop playing skyrim.

[@pixiendixie4211]

Bethesda needs to stay out of the modding community. We don't need their input or their greed. They should just be concentrating on Elder Scrolls 6

[@xIcyStarzz-yz7my]

and ya'll still think Elder Scrolls 6 is going to be a gamechanger.. Bethesda is PROVING to us that it will be a colossal dissapointment

[@Captain_Char]

the paid mods, never should have existed, ever

[@Mantelar]

Worse than you thought? What, did you think it was going to be good? Or even just a little bad?

[@westtech001]

Thanks for this - I haven't been able to get Skyrim working with mods properly since this last disastrous update. Hope to hell this works.

[@mattlazarus2489]

This should have been an optional patch. Especially for console. I am not patching this game ever again or will just stop playing it altogether. It’s in a playable state with minor issues like skin texture but not often, and I don’t think the mods I’m running are even being updated anymore.

[@lespaul678]

I'm convinced that weasel Todd Howard does this intentionally, he claims to "praise" the modding community, but I think he secretly resents us for doing what he is incapable of and he knows any update pushed will break most mods and people will have to wait for mod authors to update/fix the damage Bethesda caused.

[@SunsetEnvy]

The only issue I have with the creation mod menu is that I have to re-enable all my mods every time I launch the game 💀

[@altoid3453]

Gee, Thanks Bethesda, Thats what we wanted, we wanted you to fix something that wasnt broken

[@captainclown2718]

So glad I deleted Skyrim appmanifest to make it impossible for Steam to try and Auto Update my game. Some bs update already broke my mods once and I had to roll back my game version...

[@nurrakugy5126]

I can't even press continue with out skyrim crashing. Thanks for nothing bethesda.

[@tonyoallie]

Holy shit, Bethesda is making an official Blender Exporter. That's the biggest news of this video and it's freaking awesome. Do you know how long I was trying to create one of them for the mods and the fact that Bethesda is going to create one is amazing. This is a freaking dream.

[@snowblind630]

Bethesda is so incompetent that they can’t even update a 12 year old game correctly. I was planning on modding on AE but the update made it easy to just stay on SE and ignore the update.

[@martinenglish6641]

In Bethesda's attempt to fix anything in an update, it only breaks things that were not broken. The game will be bricked on the patches and updates.

[@EmeraldTaurus96]

I'm glad I got the GOG version. No need to worry about pesky updates breaking mods. Still need to get Fallout 4 from there though. When its on sale again, I'll get it again. Hopefully GOG version will get more support overtime.

[@jacobyrassilon]

So many mods won't work on the GoG version? Not really sure I understand the difference between the Steam version and the GoG version.

[@EmeraldTaurus96]

@@jacobyrassilon Other than the fact it's DRM free and possibly the GOG version doesn't have support of certain file type is why. I think something has to do with Steam's DRM and maybe a lot of mods had steam workshop compatibility. I could be wrong.

[@atomicdoom4381]

You forgot to mention that some people report that enb helper is broken and there's no fixes for it yet

[@baconshreds1772]

Bethesda needs to go bankrupt and leave the modding community alone. They're messing with the only thing that makes some of their only good games fun.

[@The_Ninedalorian]

I haven't allowed Skyrim to update since version 1.6.640 (AND I don't intend too) My game runs perfectly with the AE content and my 180 mods - and looks fantastic. My Creation Kit is the last one Bethesda offered BEFORE they moved everything to Steam. I DID however have to remove the CK from my Library on Steam to keep it from Auto Updating and reinstall the Archiver.exe after Steam screwed me. Luckily I had a back up of everything. There is NO REASON Bethesda needs to keep updating this game. It is ONLY to make more money after milking the Skyrim Cow. They STILL haven't fixed Issues with the Base Game itself - luckily we Mod Authors fixed thema long time ago.

[@Cybernaut76]

With the price of players losing achievements. Yeah, THAT is how much Bethesda sucks nowadays.

[@40kanon]

Which CK do you have?

[@srbux3307]

So, what we have is Bethesda updating skyrim ONLY to charge for mods and not to fix the game (which is what a game is usually updated for) they could add fixes from the unofficial patch, but they decide to give the possibility of charging for mods and Are we supposed to be happy about it? This update is a mistake from the beginning and if as a community we do not demand minimums, the next thing they are going to release is skyrim again for: mobile or *insert other platform* making the minimum effort and without fixing many of the current bugs that the game has already (as usual). Don't tell me now that this is good for mod creators, because you know perfectly well that if someone wants to pay for a mod, they can always donate to the author or many times these mods are locked behind a Patreon subscription. With all this the only thing we do is fill Bethesda's pockets with money with the law of minimum effort and whitewashing these acts of exploitation that make the community look like clowns for not rowing in the opposite direction. Finally, the funniest thing about all this is that, they charge us and break the game on the way, so we already have the clown face, the thing is wanting to change this as a community, we already did it at the time with the mods payment on steam and we are victorious, we can do the same if we come together again as a community.

[@berkaltuglu8140]

"Todd when we say exceeding expectations we meant on ppsitive changes"

[@1UPspector]

Wow, now im mad as i deleted all my mods due to that bug thinking one of my mods broke my plugins as a whole. Thanks for the help as i tried looking up the issue and nothing appeared