Appendix Carry - Massad Ayoob gives the Pros and Cons of AIWB Carry. Critical Mas 54

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@indigomer
@indigomer Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Wilson Combat is willing to use this channel for more than just advertising their products or services. They put aside time and use their experience to genuinely educate people in depth, entirely for free on a public platform. To Mr. Ayoob and the others who put out content for this channel, I appreciate you and I’m sure I don’t speak for just myself.
@djb3271
@djb3271 Жыл бұрын
So well said. Allow me to second your comment!
@Joeylikecoffee
@Joeylikecoffee Жыл бұрын
First minute: Wilson combat sig p365
@champy1210
@champy1210 Жыл бұрын
They are solid Americans, preeminent industry experts, yet humble and genuine. I, too, very much enjoy watching their content, and I look forward to one day purchasing their products.
@mattydominic4219
@mattydominic4219 Жыл бұрын
If it helps anyone hesitant to carry- When I started carrying appendix, I carried it empty (completely unloaded) but racked for about a month or so. If there were any kinks in my protocol, wardrobe, sitting posture, seat belt interference, restroom situation , etc. I'd find out w no consequence & gain some confidence & peace of mind. After a while of everyday scenarios & finding that the trigger had not dropped, I started carrying loaded but "dry racked". A month or so of that I had sufficient confidence to go ahead & carry Condition 1 with no real increase in anxiety or concern, though I still use the same care, attention, & strict diligence that I did on Day 1. Hope that's useful. Be safe.
@wildmikefilms
@wildmikefilms Жыл бұрын
One thing he didn't mention is that with AIWB you always have a visual on the status of the gun. When I carry 4 o'clock I have to physically check with my hand to make sure its still concealed correctly or is printing. If my shirt is riding up or whatever. When in appendix, I always know what's going on, and I am the only one who can get to it.
@prague7706
@prague7706 Жыл бұрын
Very good point. It never feels right when you need to try to casually feel the small of your back to make sure you’re not exposed.
@ralphholiman7401
@ralphholiman7401 Жыл бұрын
Very good point!
@johneliadis9689
@johneliadis9689 Жыл бұрын
If you use the right holster, where the weapon is completely tucked in, no one will know you are packing...ergo you have all the time necessary to retrieve it and defnd yourself, your partner or others! One should ALWAYS carry in the same location, so as to NOT HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHERE THE GAT IS! It may save your life. It did mine...NYPD RET.
@hugeslacker
@hugeslacker Жыл бұрын
@@johneliadis9689 I'm confused. How can you carry a gun with it all the way tucked into your pants? How would you draw it lol
@johneliadis9689
@johneliadis9689 Жыл бұрын
​@hugeslacker thumb in first, hook the grips and draw. Been doing g it for thirty plus years.
@flyboy8752
@flyboy8752 Жыл бұрын
Was a 3-4 o’clock carrier for a couple decades, but with some of the newer technology, switched over to appendix carry about 3 years ago and haven’t looked back since, mainly for the retention. As a guy, the place I notice the greatest improvement in feeling secure is when standing at a urinal - both hands in front are still guarding my firearm, whereas side-carry always left me feeling much more vulnerable since both hands were in front of me.
@theritchie2173
@theritchie2173 Жыл бұрын
You could always wait for the urinal on the far right (or far left).
@Bar1putt
@Bar1putt Жыл бұрын
@@theritchie2173 I just go into the stall as if I were taking a dump 😂
@tigerman3
@tigerman3 Жыл бұрын
To each their own...but couldn't disagree more. Technology still hasn't come up with a replacement for man's plumbing.
@bjs301
@bjs301 Жыл бұрын
I was always trained to use the stall when carrying.
@gatorflea2788
@gatorflea2788 Жыл бұрын
@@Bar1putt yep so no red flag calls go out about seeing a man with a gun !
@krashdude1
@krashdude1 Жыл бұрын
"The genitalia and the femoral artery".....nuff said
@CitizenCarrier
@CitizenCarrier 12 күн бұрын
If you’re not competent enough to be able to safely holster your gun in the appendix position where it’s in plain view as opposed to behind the hip, then you shouldn’t be carrying in any position. Nuff said.
@TONY19021965
@TONY19021965 Жыл бұрын
This has been one the best and most balanced presentations on this highly debated topic. Great job, Mr. Ayoob. Thank you very much. I carry strong arm OWB because of training and simply years of duty and CCW. Basically, habit.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын
I agree, I'm 52 & a ccw user, licensed G armed officer 👮🏼‍♂️. I don't feel A-IWB carry is best but can see why newer, younger thin guys, gals. I'm left handed & used OWB for around 25+ years.
@randalthor6872
@randalthor6872 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLLambertmobile I'm new to concealed carry and I'm slowly working up the courage and confidence to appendix carry. The gun pointed at my balls all day really makes me nervous lmao ; P
@Allazander
@Allazander Жыл бұрын
@@randalthor6872 I carry AIWB, my gun isn't "pointed at my balls", the barrel points just outside the balls, when I sit, the end of the barrel points between the scrotum and inner thigh. I've got some pretty serious low back issues and appendix carry is the most comfortable method I've found. I carry an IWI Masada Tactical (4.6" barrel, 17+1 capacity) and I find AIWB to be very comfortable. Just use a quality holster and never get in a hurry to holster the weapon, always check to make sure the holster is clear, watch the gun go in and make sure no loose straps or clothing went in with it. Once properly holstered, the gun is as safe as it can be, if it's pointed at your balls it makes no difference, it won't go off on its own out of the blue. The 'accidents' (negligent discharges) occur during holstering or drawing. Do those two things properly and AIWB is just as safe as any other carry method. Of course, no matter which way you decide to carry, you should still strive to always do those two things properly and safely. Try several carry methods, see which you find best for concealment, comfort and access. AIWB is my preferred method and most people I know who tried it stuck with it.
@cosmicabyss7358
@cosmicabyss7358 10 ай бұрын
I think its the best way period anyways but I don't like walking around with an exposed OWB gun. It makes people feel very uncomfortable unless you're a cop and I'm not trying to make other people afraid or feel unsafe.
@TONY19021965
@TONY19021965 10 ай бұрын
@@cosmicabyss7358 My sidearm is never exposed. Dress for success. Simple.
@billhoppe2991
@billhoppe2991 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. I'm 73 and have been carrying strong side OWB so long that I truthfully just don't want to change. I really look forward to all of your videos.
@adventurfly879
@adventurfly879 Жыл бұрын
I appendix carry every day. I did however opt for a p365 with the manual safety due to what I perceived was a trigger weight a little light for concealed carry. I've trained that manual safety into every draw and always have one in the pipe.
@solomongrundy9735
@solomongrundy9735 Жыл бұрын
I added a manual safety to my P365 just for that reason.
@HotVoodooWitch
@HotVoodooWitch Жыл бұрын
I have each of the new Sig 365 Rose kits on order. I like that both the 380 ACP and the 9mm have manual safeties.
@tedcollins4684
@tedcollins4684 Жыл бұрын
I have a P365-380 with manual safety, I want that with any striker fired gun. Never used the safety(except for decocker) on my hammer fired pistols.
@AR-ly7yt
@AR-ly7yt Жыл бұрын
I also aiwb with a manual safety. After a lot of reps, it's part of my draw
@shawnryan2197
@shawnryan2197 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to remove your pistol when you sit and drive?
@matt291
@matt291 Жыл бұрын
I watched a bunch of old Mas videos this weekend and was surprised with how wicked his sense of humor was back in the day. Great content as always!
@comanchedase
@comanchedase Жыл бұрын
One day I'm watching one of his old videos, back when political correctness wasn't a thing and he just shouts "in America if you suck a c**k once you're a c*k sucker forever!" I just bursted with laughter
@samoliver9132
@samoliver9132 Жыл бұрын
Watch the video on the cameraman’s vest. It was so hilarious when he whips out a second sandwich from the vest
@Nobody-11B
@Nobody-11B Жыл бұрын
​@@samoliver9132 that vest was hilarious!
@oeliamoya9796
@oeliamoya9796 Жыл бұрын
​@@samoliver9132 OMG that was the first video I saw about this guy. I was instantly hooked. I also had a serious hankering for a sandwich....
@heidi22209
@heidi22209 Жыл бұрын
Im a woman. With a large chest. I'm having a hard time deciding where to carry. I'm have a lil squish, beer belly. I think appendix carry is what is best for me. I'm still trying to sort it out. Thanks WC. I love the context. As always.
@C-hp4eh
@C-hp4eh Жыл бұрын
They deleted my comment to you. So research "bra carry." I love it!
@heidi22209
@heidi22209 Жыл бұрын
@@C-hp4eh lol. They deleted. Your tig ol bitties comment. Tisk tisk. Thanks lol 😆
@PopeMcGrope
@PopeMcGrope Жыл бұрын
Go for it, no twig and berries to worry about blasting off.
@CeeWorld69
@CeeWorld69 8 ай бұрын
@@PopeMcGropeno, just the leg
@stumpyhigginbottom3466
@stumpyhigginbottom3466 Жыл бұрын
There's at least one secondary advantage to AIWB, in my opinion. Because it's intrinsically uncomfortable to wear AIWB while sitting, I've found that my seated posture is best when carrying appendix. I don't slouch forward; I keep my lower back and lower abs slightly engaged; I sit further forward in my seat and have better foot placement on the ground.. It makes a small but noticeable difference over the course of a day. Thanks for the video. Always nice to see Mas give us some of that 50-year wisdom most of us can only hope to have someday.
@prague7706
@prague7706 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I could see how this could be beneficial for some people with a posterior pelvic tilt with head forward posture and cue them to bring themselves back up into alignment.
@musicman1eanda
@musicman1eanda Жыл бұрын
Depends on body type. I could not stand sitting with my gun at 4 o'clock, especially driving which was torture! I can sit AIWB just as comfortably as when I'm not carrying.
@jhos9494
@jhos9494 Жыл бұрын
You’re using the wrong belt and holster if sitting is uncomfortable AIWB. I can sit all day with a full size 5in
@eddiearchuleta615
@eddiearchuleta615 Жыл бұрын
Simple don’t pull the trigger while the muzzle is pointed at you
@Morlock-uc8de
@Morlock-uc8de 11 ай бұрын
​@@jhos9494 I've tried a few different holsters Appendix for me is just uncomfortable. For me 3 o'clock OWB or 4 o clock IWB.
@davek5027
@davek5027 Жыл бұрын
At age 62, arthritic, and being a tad chunky with a “slight” beer belly, IWB carry is strictly a no-go. Plus, no matter what size, age or fitness level a person is, ya gotta buy your britches 2” larger than the size you normally wear. Oh, to be 26 and have a 30” waist again.
@1248dl
@1248dl Жыл бұрын
Pros and cons is one of the basics that keeps me coming back to your presentations, Mas.
@wingman8447
@wingman8447 Жыл бұрын
Yes. The shoulders back and watching the gun holstering is the way. You should have time for this whether at the range or after an incident is over. Excellent. Thank you.
@tobylopez445
@tobylopez445 Жыл бұрын
see my post
@newerest1
@newerest1 Жыл бұрын
Yep, speed reholstering isn't a thing
@ralphholiman7401
@ralphholiman7401 Жыл бұрын
If you can't look at your holster while reholstering, that means the threat isn't gone, and you don't need to be holstering anyway.
@justinsane11
@justinsane11 Жыл бұрын
It’s the same concept with hammer fired pistols with a decocker. You aren’t decocking in a life or death situation, nor are you holstering.
@wingman8447
@wingman8447 Жыл бұрын
@@justinsane11 Absolutely
@manderson7173
@manderson7173 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I only feel comfortable running an AIWB when it’s an SA/DA hammer-fired gun. I bought a 365 shortly after they fixed the pin drag issue and loved the gun, but I ended up selling it because I ALWAYS stressed while holstering it AIWB.
@MSmatt76
@MSmatt76 Жыл бұрын
I believe the popularity with appendix carry has helped bring favor back to DA/SA hammer-fired guns. A decocked hammer fired gun is a great option if considering appendix carry, IMO.
@hugeslacker
@hugeslacker Жыл бұрын
That's exactly why I appendix carry a da/sa. I have a few options, all sigs for carry. My p224 is more of a summer gun because I can wear just a tshirt, and then in months I can wear a jacket, thicker long sleeve shirts, hoodies, etc I choose between a p239 and a p229 depending on where I'm going. I don't think I would ever carry a p365 or other striker fired guns in that location.
@thomasw.6945
@thomasw.6945 Жыл бұрын
i carry appendix, and when holstering gun i almost always take holster out, put gun in and after that i put holstered gun back into appendix carry, only when gun is empty after safety check and magazinless, i put gun directly into appendix carried holster
@bcb1967
@bcb1967 Жыл бұрын
Great points Mas. It's also faster and more comfortable in a vehicle. If you have a car with bolstered seats it solves the discomfort of strong side carry and is faster to clear a seat belt. Also, having had surgery to repair a dislocation and break of my right shoulder a few years ago, it's nice to not have to angle my shoulder farther back to clear a cover garment. See you in 68 days!
@gumps1986
@gumps1986 Жыл бұрын
I carry about 11 o’clock with a right hand draw. It’s easier for me to draw with either hand if necessary. I also must have a manual safety when carrying up front. It’s a mental thing for me to know 100% the pistol won’t go off when pointed at such a vulnerable area.
@rodneyhobbs6507
@rodneyhobbs6507 Жыл бұрын
If you carry a pistol with a grip safety and carry appendix you can put thumb on top basically on rear site and slide pistol in nicely without depressing the grip safety. Its comforting having a little backup (safety) in a dicey situation (rehostering).
@stevekrueger4021
@stevekrueger4021 Жыл бұрын
Probably the number one reason I carry appendix is gun security. You are not going to get my gun without me knowing . Great channel with wonderful advice!
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 Жыл бұрын
Mas is one of my favorite presenters ever.
@lazerusmfh
@lazerusmfh Жыл бұрын
Appendix carry for the better part of 15 yrs thanks for the safety reminders.
@Layheeee
@Layheeee Жыл бұрын
I think it’s your gaze that makes your words so powerful, when I look into your eyes I can’t help but treat your words with the utmost respect and diligence. Your a very wise man and it shows.
@hackptui
@hackptui Жыл бұрын
I carry a Glock 19, a Glock 17 and a S&W M&P appendix. The M&P has the external thumb safety, and the Glocks both have Striker Control Devices so I have positive tactile confirmation to help prevent AD's while holstering. So far so good...
@loganv0410
@loganv0410 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a professional discussion of what is way too often a nearly-religious matter.
@JamesLee-lk4kx
@JamesLee-lk4kx Жыл бұрын
I can listen to this man's wisdom all day long.
@909One92
@909One92 Жыл бұрын
Makes total sense. Just starting out and trying each.
@LF12468
@LF12468 Жыл бұрын
This guy is so good, he's got one eye on us and one eye on the door.
@ventxret
@ventxret 4 ай бұрын
can't let anybody get a tactical suprise on you.
@prestonbowden1008
@prestonbowden1008 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I personally choose appendix for its advantages. It’s good to hear you allow it but with safety measures in your courses.
@Horrible_Deplorable
@Horrible_Deplorable Жыл бұрын
What extra safety measures do you need to take when carrying appendix as opposed to strong side?
@michaell397
@michaell397 Жыл бұрын
@@Horrible_Deplorable Did you not watch the presentation? It was well explained. KnifeMaker
@Horrible_Deplorable
@Horrible_Deplorable Жыл бұрын
@@michaell397 you'll have to explain how knifemaker is a safety precaution. Is it a new rule to the universal firearm safety rules?
@tobylopez445
@tobylopez445 Жыл бұрын
see my post
@mikechurchill1071
@mikechurchill1071 Жыл бұрын
Sweet video
@scottirons8635
@scottirons8635 Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge proponent of this carry for speed and comfort. I prefer to use a hammer fired pistol and/or a 1911 or 2011 so that I know when I'm reholstering (slowly if at all) that I know where the action is. With my H&K P30sk I keep my thumb on the closed hammer and with my Stacatto C2 I make sure the slide safety is engaged and I use a weak grip so that the grip safety is NOT engaged when I put it back in the holster. Thanks Mas for your years of knowledge. I can't wait to take one of your classes in person.
@FRMN8R_T4R
@FRMN8R_T4R Жыл бұрын
Great advice. You HAVE to treat AIWB with the respect it deserves. Build that safety protocol (especially the draw and reholster motions) into muscle memory as part of your dry fire practice. That should be the absolute BARE MINUMUM you do if you're carrying AIWB!
@W1ldt1m
@W1ldt1m Жыл бұрын
I find that I'm only comfortable with Aiwb when using a revolver. Both from a safety and a comfort position. A longer gun or one less curved just doesn't work for me. Interesting to think that back when a lot of guys justshoved a gun into the waistband. Pants were worn four or five Inches higher. Doing that I could probably caryy a full size 1911 comfortably.
@PurrsPlace
@PurrsPlace Жыл бұрын
Question for the team: Do you or anyone you know carry full-size pistols in AIWB carry? I have only seen compacts or subcompacts. Plus, I don't think I've ever seen a revolver (though I imagine a Ruger LCR or the like would be practical)? I just *love* Massad Ayoob's advice and the way he expresses himself! I also think very highly of this gentleman! Thank you again for having him, Wilson Combat. I will be frank; Ayoob, and not your fine pistols, is the #1 reason I have Subscribed to your channel. Your firearms are worth thousands of dollars, but Ayoob? He is genuinely priceless. =)
@zgennaro
@zgennaro Жыл бұрын
I carry a p10c aiwb in am ANR design holster with 17 round magazine. No issue but the p365 is more comfortable sitting down. I’m about 40/60 p10/p365. It’s what you get used to
@ScreaminMadMurphy
@ScreaminMadMurphy Жыл бұрын
I carry a 1911 in aiwb, 2 spare mags on the left hip. I'm a stout person so it doesn't print with a good polo shirt and like Mas says, the belt has to be a little higher. It took some getting used to but I wouldn't change it now. I have considered getting a compact little 9mm for when I'm working hard, but haven't felt the need to do so.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 10 ай бұрын
Look up nightwood guns. He is carrying a 2011.
@CigaretteTheChannel
@CigaretteTheChannel 4 ай бұрын
I've carried a full size 10mm (4.6in) , but the extra barrel length will pinch your sack
@Coffee1776
@Coffee1776 Жыл бұрын
Massad Ayoob is a national treasure. 🇺🇸
@thinman8621
@thinman8621 Жыл бұрын
The caution about what the muzzle blast would do from an unintentional discharge when re-holstering appendix carry . . .
@bjs301
@bjs301 Жыл бұрын
I've carried at 3 O'clock to 4:30 for over 50 years. I appreciate the advantages of appendix carry, but it's just not for me. Also, I always trained to twist away from an attacker, so that my gun and shooting arm are out of his reach. The late 60s is not a good time of life to start retraining things that have become instinctive.
@freezinweasle1
@freezinweasle1 Жыл бұрын
Well explained. After a career in military LE, the only place I feel comfortable is strong side hip. But that's me.
@GRIGGINS1
@GRIGGINS1 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I want my gun on my hip.
@sammyg4806
@sammyg4806 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Too many horror stories, and I can draw faster form 3 o’clock anyways. Every single person that I know that shot their genitals off, or died (as result of blood loss) from an accidental/negligent discharge in the holster, were appendix carrying.
@bigv6724
@bigv6724 Жыл бұрын
Being 6'1 and slim frame it's hard to cc other than appendix for me at least.
@kylewood8327
@kylewood8327 Жыл бұрын
Good video…I’ve been carrying my K frame size snub .357 for over 20 yrs here in Texas. Works great for me! There’s only two types of weapons I would carry this way, a revolver or DA/SA pistol. The rest would either OWB or IWB strong side.
@RuffianoTV
@RuffianoTV Жыл бұрын
Very smart and realistic. Better said than Massad. I'm in Texas too.
@tapp93
@tapp93 Жыл бұрын
Things have a reason in a sensible World. Whilst its a bit of a stretch to assert the World has any sense - at all! At least there is a clear reason why Mr Ayoob has been a voice worth lending an ear for... well for respectful diplomacy to 'age' ( for both of us! ) shall we simply call it decades. I carried for my Govt and listened politely to all the ( brief ) training. But stayed whole, sane and effective because I paid assiduous attention to this man. Perhaps dating things to say my issue 158 gr LRN 38's got swapped for Federal 125grn SJHP 357! I m sure its been said, I m sure I ve said it. But at risk of worthwhile repetition - thank you Mr A.
@stevesweeney7892
@stevesweeney7892 Жыл бұрын
This is going to be GOOD I have to come back and watch this and totally scrutinize. I was an NRA LEO Instructor for 20+ years and NEVER promoted shooting my package. Until I retired and won a SASS Championship. Speed, Movement, Control and Safety. I have seen a shooter draw a lead line down the outside of his trousers. No finger poke in til proper! I Carried a very long time until I trusted myself enough and felt proficient enough. Rule of thumb for me is Carry THE PLACE WHERE YOU TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN. After all that's where you will be looking for her! Do not "police" brass while shooting!
@bmaxse
@bmaxse Жыл бұрын
What is "police brass"?
@stevesweeney7892
@stevesweeney7892 Жыл бұрын
@bmaxse emptying your spent shells,collect in hand and place safely in your pocket where you wouldn't trip on them. They would fight them in wounded Officers pockets. One ALWAYS REVERTS TO TRAINING UNDER PRESSURE
@michaelstora70
@michaelstora70 Жыл бұрын
You are right! Just about everyone else is so pro- or anti-appendix carry that almost no one points out the benifits and risks. I was hoping to see some discussion of single action as a manual safety in my option would make this mode of carry much safer.
@seann2769
@seann2769 Жыл бұрын
Meh. I AIWB carry a Glock 19. Between the firing pin safety, trigger safety, and drop safety, I feel pretty comfortable with it pointed at my junk. The striker isn’t pre cocked, either. No way it’s going off on its own. I trust that way more than a manual safety that can be switched off or is prone to mechanical failure.
@michaelstora70
@michaelstora70 Жыл бұрын
@@seann2769 Did you watch the video? The risk is holstering with something on your belt or the tail of your shirt or something else getting jammed in the trigger guard. No one is talking about guns going off spontaneously.
@seann2769
@seann2769 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelstora70 I did. My apologies for my poor reading comprehension lol
@jeffanon1772
@jeffanon1772 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I looked hard at the advantages but they are NOT enough for me to deliberately point a loaded pistol at my testicles and femoral arteries...
@cutter4280
@cutter4280 Жыл бұрын
I primarily carry strong side hip. 330-4 o'clock position, but find appendix to be nice, because it's quick. Especially if I'm taking the holster and sidearm out a lot, i.e. going to the bank/post office. I also like the appendix carry much better with a tuckable holster with dress clothes. It is very important to be informed, aware, and trained with any style you choose. Very good video.
@prague7706
@prague7706 Жыл бұрын
To me, carrying in the 3:30/4:00 position actually feels more comfortable than not having a firearm there, it makes my lower back feel supported.
@danielnichols9049
@danielnichols9049 Жыл бұрын
Good advice as usual. Appendix carry all but eliminates a bad guy grabbing one’s firearm also.
@erniegarland5689
@erniegarland5689 Жыл бұрын
After 2 back surgeries several years ago, carrying strong side became uncomfortable as it aggravated the hip pain I was operated on to remedy. After repeated suggestions (!) from my wife to find another way to carry I decided to try appendix.I read about it and watched several videos. I found it surprisingly comfortable, even with a full sized pistol. Sitting, driving, walking around, has been no problem. I usually carry a Springfield Hellcat Pro with a Holosun RDS. It wors for me.
@Fatt_Tony
@Fatt_Tony Жыл бұрын
I've appendix carried after many unsuccessful attempts to find the place that felt good to me and accommodated my edc. I've been doing it for years and I never change up the gun. I like consistency.
@markhamersly1664
@markhamersly1664 Жыл бұрын
All, Friend Mas has been a long-time mentor and advisor, there's NO ONE I respect more. With that having been said, I simply CAN NOT get past what is a continuous VIOLATION of Col Cooper's Rule #2, to whit, "Never point a gun at someone or something you don't want to shoot or destroy." I WILL NOT violate one of the four MOST BASIC rules of gun safety there are. 'Nuff said. Hammer INS/ICE/CBP, Retired
@jimr549
@jimr549 Жыл бұрын
Appendix carry makes me nervous. I have a P365 with manual safety and carry IWB around 5 o'clock. Works best for me.
@charlesmullins3238
@charlesmullins3238 Жыл бұрын
Mas your dry humor is what makes these videos…to us the rest is obvious 100% best info from one of the greats…some may not have much up front that could get n front of the gun either
@cliftonwhittaker260
@cliftonwhittaker260 Жыл бұрын
I carried a 5-shot .44 cal revolver in an open top leather holster at the 4:00 position for many years until I developed a fatty tumor in that location. Now I carry in the 10:00 or 11:00 position. Much easier to access the weapon, even when seated. I'm 81 years old now and am trying to adjust to carrying the P365 XL. Much easier to carry but so far that is all I can say about it. I had full confidence in my .44 revolver. Later on I bought a S&W 646 and loved it. Most natural pointing handgun I've ever owned, and I carried it a good bit. But it is a little bulky for summer use. Now, I'm trying to make the XL work.
@12799MaDeuce
@12799MaDeuce Жыл бұрын
Particularly useful at newer movie theaters that have large, plush seats that recline. It can be difficult to get to a belt gun in those big seats. I always have a 642 in an appendix holster when I go to the theater, and usually my G19 on the belt. This way, if I have to draw from a seated position, I have an easy-access option.
@gregdoh
@gregdoh Жыл бұрын
"showing the pros and cons"- exactly why I fell in love with your channel. With all of your content, you seem to not let emotions dictate the info you provide, and look at all sides of every story. Great info- thank you!
@keiththompson8047
@keiththompson8047 Жыл бұрын
I appendix carry most days of the week. I crawl under houses, up in attics, and drive hours at a time. Appendix is the only position that allows me to work and maintain concealment and retention and to have access while driving. I strong side hip carry when I’m wearing a suit or working outside. With appendix carry I can get to my gun while in tight confines like a residential hallway or closet. Clinch pick on the left of centerline and my 365XL on the right of centerline. And as far as re holstering goes, I can’t fathom a reason I would be in a hurry to holster the firearm after defensive use.
@Thabosshoss
@Thabosshoss Жыл бұрын
Massed videos are mandatory viewing. Mandatory!
@RoofAndAMeal4UsAll
@RoofAndAMeal4UsAll Жыл бұрын
Massad Ayoob, old school wisdom with modern tech savvy. In the gravest extreme is a great book I that have bought many times over as gifts, my trust is that solid. Thanks for the deep dive sir!
@zripster
@zripster Жыл бұрын
I carry AIWB a full-size 9mm with a light attached, no undergarments, have ran 1/2 a mile with it with no discomfort, and can wear just a tanktop without it being noticeable
@benstepanek2808
@benstepanek2808 Жыл бұрын
I agree with many of the potential issues with the AIWB, but I would say that there are some training techniques to overcome the issues of single handed draw. I prefer to keep my dominant hand wide open an sliding it under my cover garment, as this allows me to use the back of my hand to lift the garment. I have trained this way for some time, and don't have the garment snag on anything. I also don't mind AIWB without an under garment, but this was just a matter of getting used to the feeling. Great video.
@seanabbott5493
@seanabbott5493 Жыл бұрын
It's how I carry!
@Gweidemann
@Gweidemann Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing your vast gun carrying and firearms knowledge with us via Wilson Firearms of these accords, Mr. Ayoob. I met a Law Enforcement Officer friend of mine that's a Military Veteran as well, and he told me years ago that he studied under you. Again, God bless you for sharing your Law Enforcement as well as Civilian gun carrying knowledge and experience, with your audiences for the safety and well-being of a number of people's lives and souls, sir.
@JustinDeFiblander
@JustinDeFiblander Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Massad Ayoob. Still transitioning to appendix carry. Thank you as well for youre above grade leadership at the 2nd amendment foundation. A lot of great things happening with such a great leader at the head.
@alanj7306
@alanj7306 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for addressing this issue. As a man, I’ve wondered about this myself. I don’t think I could ever feel comfortable carrying in the front.
@RangeRoninChronicles
@RangeRoninChronicles Жыл бұрын
Excellent topic! For myself; however, and because of surgeries, it is highly uncomfortable to have anything pressing against my lower abdomen. In some cases, it is even uncomfortable to have anything on my belt that would drag it down. I started wearing Perry suspenders to prevent that from happening. My normal carry these days is either in a shoulder rig or offside cross-draw carry, which while not ideal, is better than not carrying at all. Aside from that, the cant of the cross-draw holster is very comfortable when sitting and positions the muzzle of my firearm on the hipbone and not at my femoral artery. I suffer from poor blood circulation, and restricting a major right to left femoral bypass does not appeal to me, which appendix carry could do.
@richh1576
@richh1576 Жыл бұрын
Definietely you dont want to 'interfere' with 'anything near' the 'connection ends' of a fem-fem bypass.
@JohnDoeEagle1
@JohnDoeEagle1 Жыл бұрын
Appendix carry isn't comfortable at all unless you are 21 - 30 years old and 6' 1' 150 pounds soaking wet. Most of the guys who do it are very scrawny thin.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 Жыл бұрын
How about pocket carry?
@RangeRoninChronicles
@RangeRoninChronicles Жыл бұрын
@@oklahomahank2378 I have no issue with pocket carry, given the right pistol/holster/pocket combination. In fact, as I am typing this a Hellcat is residing in a DeSantis Nemesis holster in my right pants pocket. I have also carried in a cargo pants pocket and vest pocket.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 Жыл бұрын
@@RangeRoninChronicles At the moment I have my LCP max in a Vedder pocket locker in my pocket. I like the Vedder. I have some other pocket holsters but I like the security of a form fitting Kydex.
@MRLUGNUTS
@MRLUGNUTS Жыл бұрын
I started out at 4:30 iwb and switched to appendix 10yrs ago... once I found a holster that's so comfortable that sitting is never a issue, as a matter of fact I've fallen asleep with it on.
@MKennetic
@MKennetic Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mas, I've chosen to not go with appendix carry. It's not comfortable to me, and the consequences of a mishap are far more dire.
@boomee78
@boomee78 Жыл бұрын
The consequences are the same it takes time to get used to
@MKennetic
@MKennetic Жыл бұрын
@@boomee78 the consequences are not the same lol. I'd rather lose an ass cheek than lose my junk or hit a femoral
@johny9516
@johny9516 Жыл бұрын
@@boomee78 catching a negligent discharge in the ass or outer thigh is a whole different story than catching one in the femoral artery, or bob and the twins, or both. The consequences are definitely not the same.
@boomee78
@boomee78 Жыл бұрын
@johny9516 First of all, not everyone puts the holster way back like Mas does. i haven't seen one person. I have seen first hand what can happen, unfortunately, twice on the job. Unfortunately, you can hit your femoral artery not everyone carries like mass does so that i disagree with you.
@johncurry6260
@johncurry6260 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see this Video Mas, thank you for posting it. I remember reading you in the Magazines in my Teens. I have been Appendix carrying since 1982, within a month or so of graduation from the Police Academy. I carried that way off duty and I carried my Back up there while working in Uniform, and then in plain clothes and as a Detective. Only during Twice yearly Qualifying did I wear it on the Strong side belt because the job or at least the Fire Arms and Tactics section required it. I start with My Model 10, then with the Model 36. Once off Probation I carried my 459 there and eventually my 1006, which I carry that way til this day. I find it very comfortable and easy to access. I shoot well and can indeed draw quickly with it in that position. Then again after 41 years I should be able too.
@davidbreen4353
@davidbreen4353 Жыл бұрын
great video. i do carry IWB appendix carry. i practice my draw, while grabbing the gun, my trigger finger is along the slide, my thumb is pushing the safety forward at the same time. my finger never touches the trigger unless i plan on discharging a round or 3. when i do leave the house, if my gun isn't there i feel naked. never leave home without it!
@jfruser
@jfruser Жыл бұрын
I am glad Mas mentioned muzzle blast as a hazard. Most don't mention it and even if, during an AIWB unintended discharge, the bullet misses vital bits, the MB is still going to wreak havoc and still many penetrate through to vital arteries. FTR, I use AIWB upon occasion and even put together my own AIWB rig when I could not find what I wanted ready-made.
@DennisRichardH
@DennisRichardH 11 ай бұрын
Good information. Just watched a Yankee Marshal vid I which he cited statistics showing that (suicides excluded) more people die from their own gun, than from being shot by someone else. He concluded that most self conflicted gun deaths happen from appendix carry and wanted to let people know of the significant risk involved with this carry option.
@comanchedase
@comanchedase Жыл бұрын
I think that the quick draw aspect of it has been given way too much emphasis nowadays...if you ask me I'd say that the "quickest draw" is being aware of your surroundings (I.e. not using your phone for that "one" second).
@hemihayden
@hemihayden Жыл бұрын
Being a little bit of a bigger guy I have found apendix is amazing get a kore belt go up one size and order a big guy holster from bordertown holsters. When I go sit I adjust my belt over belly when I'm driving or sitting and obviously put the seat belt behind the firearm.
@issyroz
@issyroz Жыл бұрын
Mr. Ayoob, it was a great pleasure meeting and talking with you at TacCon. I like and appreciate your information, until 120
@jechezeqel7376
@jechezeqel7376 Жыл бұрын
Appendix carry is the best for the element of surprise against evil, that said i also value open carry because it is a deterrent.
@americanpatriot2422
@americanpatriot2422 Жыл бұрын
Always an outstanding video and presentation that I look forward to watching. Thank you.
@jeffreybrooks8643
@jeffreybrooks8643 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mas! Outstanding appendix carry pro/con presentation!
@Darryl1963D
@Darryl1963D Жыл бұрын
Mr Mas, loved your written material I read in the 90,s. Great content from a very down to earth man. Happy to know you are still around. My best you and your loved ones. Respect from Australia.
@danielmelancon3069
@danielmelancon3069 Жыл бұрын
It’s scary at first but well worth it once you gain experience.
@dougtinsley1320
@dougtinsley1320 Жыл бұрын
No one makes more sense of concealed carry than Mr. Aoob
@Allazander
@Allazander Жыл бұрын
I carry an IWI Masada Tactical, 4.6" barrel with 17 + 1 capacity, AIWB. I have some pretty serious low back issues with some permanent nerve damage in my low back causing constant leg pain. If I carry IWB anywhere on the hip, it causes me a lot of pain that I don't get with appendix carry. I think it's because the hip is hard, a belt to keep the holstered gun stable and against the body puts too much side pressure on the lower back while the abdomen is soft and gives so the belt doesn't need to be as tight and doesn't create uneven side pressure on the low back. There seems to be better weight distribution too. Whatever the reason, my personal experience with AIWB carry has been great. It's comfortable, the gun is easy to access and easy to conceal. I personally love AIWB carry. It may not be for everyone but it's definitely my preferred way to carry.
@gregggibson3109
@gregggibson3109 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy Masad’s observations from experience, as well as, the rest of the Crew on Wilson Combat. So, Masad, acting on your statement that Wilson builds content from its followers comments, I’d offer this… Spencer Keeper is a phenomenon, well-trained and superbly practiced; however, in my experience as a Trainer, he is most definitely the exception! My students using AIWB are all over the board. A few are very fast on the draw but not so accurate downrange. Others are no faster on the draw than a practiced strong-side carrier but generally more accurate. So, as with all things, performance is proportional to one’s investment in the effort. I tried to make a go of AIWB after years of strong-side concealed carry and competition wear. I spent a small fortune in the process. I never found an AIWB setup as comfortable to carry for all day-every day wear as the strong side…certainly not as safe in my opinion. I do have one AIWB set up that I use when I’m at the gym, but that’s it. I’ve gone back to strong side and am happy with it. In the end though, as you say, it’s a very personal decision. Now - a different question on another related topic. The much talked about “throttle control.” I wonder what Bill Wilson, Masad Ayoob and Ken Hackathorn’s thoughts on this concept are. What I see day-to-day with shooters from the general public is “sounds great but I can’t pull it off!” If they start fast, they inevitably finish at the same speed and generally rush/throw their shots. Great concept taught by many…extremely difficult realistically to put into practice. Thoughts?
@hrdrockfarm8948
@hrdrockfarm8948 Жыл бұрын
Experienced muzzle blast with my hand once from a .44 mag. Can't imagine if it had been my twig and berries instead. Excellent point.
@C-hp4eh
@C-hp4eh Жыл бұрын
Flashbang Holster bra carry. Not particularly fast, but the perp doesn't also probably assume you are carrying, being a female. Fairly comfy for a smaller gun. Even works for small gals. Thanks for all your info! 😎
@PurrsPlace
@PurrsPlace Жыл бұрын
A holster-bra? How creative! I once heard of a holster demonstration involving a lovely long-haired lady wearing only a swimsuit while on the stage. When she drew, the pistol appeared from underneath all that hair. For most guys and some gals? That was probably the last place they were looking - but wow! Talk about catching the crowd by surprise! =)
@C-hp4eh
@C-hp4eh Жыл бұрын
@@PurrsPlace It's actually a holster that fits inside the bra and snaps around the very middle of the bra, so you can wear your own bra. It's very secure and totally trigger protected and easy to draw. It's very comfortable. I think it's totally practical.
@PurrsPlace
@PurrsPlace Жыл бұрын
@@C-hp4eh Wow! How cool is that? Comfortable and practical. What's not to like? =) Thank you for sharing that with me, C!
@pdmsemperfi7676
@pdmsemperfi7676 Жыл бұрын
Staccato,, CS 9 mm concealed carry perfect!
@memyself637
@memyself637 Жыл бұрын
I drive for a living so I spend a lot of time in my car. I found that in order to draw from a behind the hip holster while sitting in a bucket car seat I had to lean forward to create enough space to get a grip on the pistol. If an assailant is at your driver's side car window when you draw, by leaning forward you're exposing the back of the head and neck to them. You also can't effectively use your weak hand to fend off an attacker while drawing. An appendix holster offers a far easier draw while seated and doesn't compromise your ability to defend with the weak hand while drawing.
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 Жыл бұрын
The Glock striker control device (now from Langdon) is a nice addition for appendix carry.
@lonestar6457
@lonestar6457 Жыл бұрын
Great overview! Appreciate your expertise!
@flyboy8752
@flyboy8752 Жыл бұрын
There are quite a few resources out there with various methods for one-handed appendix draw. I’ve found (giving all a fair and lengthy trial) that fir me personally, I do much better with a circular or elliptical type thumb motion to clear my cover garment. Gotta put in the practice though, but it can be done pretty effectively, though obviously not as quick as two handed. And there are also various two handed methods as well that are worth the practice to get proficient at. Last, I absolutely couldn’t agree more with your hips forward, firearm grip against the belly, muzzle angled outward, reholstering technique! In some situations, I’ll even remove the holster to reholster the firearm (being careful to not muzzle my support hand either). Definitely the scariest part of appendix carry! 😳
@jeffatha3296
@jeffatha3296 Жыл бұрын
I have used your teaching on this in several classes.. always great info massad ayoob…. ❤️
@Graydog-sx6le
@Graydog-sx6le Жыл бұрын
I appendix carry snubbies everyday. Comfortable and forget I have it sometimes. I do carry some semiautomatic pistols AIWB but don’t care for it too much. Thanks for the great video.
@mkshffr4936
@mkshffr4936 Жыл бұрын
To my way of thinking one of the most useful methods is driver's style cross draw. Access is easy from any position but especially seated and the more horizontal orientation minimizes concerns of too short of cover garment exposing the goods. As a bonus the muzzle is pointed in a direction that reduces the chances of Glocking one's self. Alas, holster makers seem to disagree.
@themechanic6117
@themechanic6117 Жыл бұрын
I tried OTWB hip carry for about two weeks . I found it very uncomfortable just to carry it , sitting down or driving was very uncomfortable . I switched to appendix carry and never looked back , way more comfortable and I can even do my daily activities without any issues .
@johnbicknell8512
@johnbicknell8512 Жыл бұрын
Good information Sir . I converted to that type of carry a good while back and can't remember when . It is very comfortable to me . I carry a Glock 26 and a spare magazine.
@kevinrhodes3902
@kevinrhodes3902 Жыл бұрын
Which holster do you prefer/use for your Glock 26?
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 10 ай бұрын
@@kevinrhodes3902. He or she didn’t answer. I have both tier one concealed and T Rex holsters for my 26. Both are good, I prefer the Tier One. Be prepared to spend some time adjusting the clips up or down and trying a wedge and a claw in different places and sizes.
@JustInCases72
@JustInCases72 Жыл бұрын
I carry on the hip. Just more comfortable for me and that’s how I train. 😊
@aspacone4113
@aspacone4113 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Mas for an articulate and well thought out presentation with a focus on critical thinking skills. I don't normally utilize appendix carry because as a life long cross trained martial arts instructor I prefer the 3 o'clock position to keep my hips and pelvic girdle unencumbered. However, as an NRA Instructor, when I am training my younger personal defense students who are utilizing the appendix carry positions I demo and instruct them on exactly the techniques and concepts you presented in this video. I start them off with a confirmed/empty firearm and proceed from there once they have demonstrated a basic competency of the skills you presented in this video.
@Jimmythegreat6
@Jimmythegreat6 Жыл бұрын
First. Also his voice is very calming
@prokofievchambers8603
@prokofievchambers8603 Жыл бұрын
Awesome guy. I’m glad to learn that I’ve actually incorporated each of his points into my thinking and practice prior to watching the video. Thank you Wilson Combat!
@akforge
@akforge Жыл бұрын
I use to AIWB exclusively but kept going back to Col. Cooper’s second rule; “Rule #2 - Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy.” so I abandoned AWIB for good.
@CatchingDinosaurs
@CatchingDinosaurs Жыл бұрын
i dont wear boxers and i wear my belt pretty low between those appendix carry is terribly uncomfortable for me even with something small like a kimber micro 9
@CurtisBrandt
@CurtisBrandt Жыл бұрын
It’s no surprise that this is another informative and, yes, entertaining presentation! To the excellent recommendations Mr. Ayoob made, I would add that it’s worth considering the pistol one carries, as well. I personally feel a lot better re-holstering a double action or pistol with an external safety of some kind. These obviously require another level of training compared to a striker fired pistol, but the additional peace of mind is, for me, absolutely worth it.
@jimcheatwood9009
@jimcheatwood9009 Жыл бұрын
I would like your opinion on cross draw, I have carried in public only cross draw or shoulder carry over 50 years, in the pasture with 1911s I sometimes carry right hip straight drop. Cross draw seems fast. Great presentation Thanks.
@johnj7031
@johnj7031 Жыл бұрын
Im a business guy, have to wear tucked in collared oxford style shirts. I carry AIWB Tukked. I would argue that unless you wa t to wear your suit or sport coat all day long then Appendix is the best solution for this. Id love to see a video on this topic
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