Apple Vision Pro vs Pimax Crystal Super

Apple Vision Pro vs Pimax Crystal Super - Best VR headset 2024?

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@jodyschultz5870 2 ай бұрын

Got this from Pimax on Sep 7th: Pimax Store Hi, Super Micro-OLED is now expected to start available next year. The Micro-OLED display is still under development and continuously testing. Please wait for our next announcements

@motivatedtravel 2 ай бұрын

Ah, good to know. They must have pushed it back. It always seemed a tad ambitious.

@carlospacheco6225 Ай бұрын

I reserved my super pimax!

@motivatedtravel Ай бұрын

Awesome! You'll have to let us kno what you think when you get it!

@dtrjones 3 ай бұрын

The maths doesn't add up for the PPD for the Super over the AVP. I was able to test the AVP and it's beautifully clear and certainly bright enough. The 34 PPD was great however for VR users, I would be a little dissapointed because the FoV seemed incredible small, almost first gen VR. Compared to my also Pancake Quest 3, is seemed like for me the Quest 3 was around 110 degrees horizontal and the AVP was no more than 100 degrees horizontal. With that in mind, the pixel increase of the Super doesn't appear to justify the additional PPD given the FoV is rumoured to be around 130 degrees. The PPD of 50-57 just doesn't make any sense, they simple don't have enough pixels to play with.

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

I hear what you're saying, so it will be interesting to see how the actual experince plays out one it is released, but they're claiming it to be the case. Maybe it's something to do with only having one glass lens (as opposed to layers), so more picture gets through to the eye. But they are touting a big step up in visuals, so they need to deliver now.

@PixelZoft Ай бұрын

There’s no need to speculate since you can calculate the PPD quite easily. Here’s how: The new Pimax headset has 3840x3840 pixels per eye and a 130° field of view (FOV). With an overlap of about 105° (this is an estimate based on the average of existing head sets) each panel covers 117.5° (since 12.5° on each side is not shared between the eyes). To calculate PPD: PPD = 3840 pixels / 117.5 degrees ≈ 32.7 PPD. So the PPD is about 32.7, which is far from the 50-57 PPD Pimax has stated. This is however still very good and a realistic value given the 3840x3840 resolution and the 130° FOV.

@motivatedtravel Ай бұрын

@@PixelZoft Great post! Will be very interested to see how they intend to hit their advertised target given what you've just detailed!!

@captainnewton4618 12 күн бұрын

@@PixelZoft So why is the advertised PPD more than the calculations?

@jodyschultz5870 2 ай бұрын

The main difference is that the Super does not exist as of Sep and there is no way we are getting it in Q4.

@motivatedtravel 2 ай бұрын

Well, until they say different, that is their expected release date. We'll have to wait for confirmation

@jodyschultz5870 2 ай бұрын

@@motivatedtravel Where does Pimax state that the Super Micro OLED is shipping in Q4? Did you see their last update?

@motivatedtravel 2 ай бұрын

@@jodyschultz5870 They told it to me during the press briefing. Although that was a few months ago now - have you seen a different update since?

@tomc1380 3 ай бұрын

Probably will be more useful to compare all these headsets when you actually get to try one out. The Pimax Super(s) won't even be available until later this year, maybe early next yer. Hopefully Pimax will deliver on it's promises.

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

For sure. But I've got a feeling a stack of the initial stock will go to pre-orders. Plus, people can buy an Apple Vision Pro now and may want to hold-off if the Crystal Super sounds of interest. Hence firing this off now, ahead of reviews to come.

@tomc1380 3 ай бұрын

@@motivatedtravel Ya, I’ve preordered a Super OLED so I guess I’ll eventually find out myself. I currently don’t have any interest in the current AVP. Maybe with their next, lower priced version?

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

@@tomc1380 Not like Apple to do a lower-priced version, lol. We'll see. Probably a lot of room for the hardware to come down in price over the coming years.

@brianhendrickson7166 3 ай бұрын

waiting for apple to drop the next vision pro for current vision prices to drop

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

But how much will they drop? That's the big question. Will it be yearly releases, or many years? I hear you, but we don't know these answers yet.

@brianhendrickson7166 3 ай бұрын

@@motivatedtravel I hear you but in the mean time I’m enjoying the psvr2 with the new pc update.

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

@@brianhendrickson7166 Good call! PSVR2 is the goods.

@gintokigriffiths1086 Ай бұрын

wtf, you made a video without owning the device ?

@motivatedtravel Ай бұрын

Well no one has the Crystal Super yet.... but you can buy the Apple Vision Pro. So, if you're wondering whether to wait for the Crystal Super or jump in now with the Apple Vision Pro, then you can watch this video to get the breakdown.

@videos4mydad 3 ай бұрын

"3840x3840 is almost 4k per eye" - actually, its 1.8x 4K per eye. Almost twice 4K per eye!

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

Talk me through that one. Because 4K is technically 3840 x 2160?

@videos4mydad 3 ай бұрын

@@motivatedtravel the video said 3840x3840 is almost 4K - i guess as I am typing it out i can see how it could have meant as saying ABOVE 4K, so its almost. as in you almost got the job but you were over qualified. but in normal language when someone says 'almost' it means 'not quite'. as you already said 4k has vertical of 2160 and 3840 is 1.8x that. So i wouldnt say 3840x3840 is 'almost' 4K - it is 4K and then some.

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

@@videos4mydad Got you. I'm so used to VR headset manufacturers overshooting (saying 4K res, when it's 2 x 2K) I undersell it.

@Ajvella31 3 ай бұрын

@videos4mydad it's more than 4k on 1 axis only.

@ndoki9 3 ай бұрын

Play For Dream MR headset is a Apple Vision Pro killer

@motivatedtravel 3 ай бұрын

Potentially. Back to iOS vs Android I guess. But it looks sweet.

@deadmonkeyeuc2594 3 ай бұрын

Apple vision pro was doa. You can't kill what's already dead

@ndoki9 3 ай бұрын

@@deadmonkeyeuc2594 that's what I tried telling my friends but they still bought it and think it is something, even though its uncomfortable, over priced and you have to hack into it and buy third party accessories just to play Steam VR.