Apple Watch or Garmin? What I Chose After 2 Years

I love the Apple Watch and Garmin watches, and after 2 years of trying both and going back and forth, I chose one, and here's why.
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When deciding between the Apple Watch Ultra 2 and the Garmin Epix Pro, it's important to consider their strengths and weaknesses. The Apple Watch Ultra 2 shines in its role as a true smartwatch, offering seamless integration with the Apple ecosystem, a vibrant display, and a snappy processor. This makes it ideal for everyday use, with features like Apple Pay, text messaging, and the ability to operate independently of your phone thanks to LTE service. However, its reliance on a touchscreen can be challenging during intense workouts or outdoor activities, especially in adverse weather conditions.
On the other hand, the Garmin Epix Pro stands out for its superior functionality as a sports watch. Its button navigation system is user-friendly and reliable, even when conditions are less than ideal. The Garmin Epix Pro offers impressive battery life, lasting about a week on a single charge, compared to the Apple Watch Ultra 2's two-day battery life. Garmin also provides deeper health tracking out of the box, with features like the body battery and Morning Report, which offer comprehensive insights into your fitness and health metrics.
While both watches have their unique advantages, the choice ultimately depends on your primary needs. If you seek a powerful smartwatch that seamlessly integrates with your daily life and offers a host of smart features, the Apple Watch Ultra 2 is a great option. However, if your focus is on sports and fitness tracking, with a preference for a device that is easy to use in all conditions and boasts a long battery life, the Garmin Epix Pro is likely the better choice. For those who are serious about their outdoor adventures and fitness routines, the Garmin Epix Pro provides the reliability and detailed health insights you need.

[@kohlenpott6631]

Nothing comes even close to garmin when you need an outdoor watch with long battery life and great navigation Features.

[@guzz95]

Fully agree. Like 2 weeks ago I did a century on my bike, I gave the Ultra a try, died 3/4 of the way. Fail!!!

[@rgmALC]

@@guzz95Wierd, people run 100 mile races with Ultras, yet you biked 100 miles at a faster pace and it died?

[@guzz95]

@@rgmALC whether you believe me or not, Garmin hands down has the Ultra beat on battery life. What’s weird is the Ultra having dismal battery performance, when it’s marketed for endurance sports.

[@rgmALC]

@@guzz95 I never said the Ultra has better battery life, I was just saying it’s weird how people literally run 100 mile Ultras with it and you can’t have it last a 100 mile bike ride that doesn’t last nearly as long….but user error is a thing too.

[@Wanderlust073]

@@rgmALC you have a link? Forum posts I’ve seen from ultra runners say the apple watch dies after twenty hours or so, and that’s with it running in feature crippled mode the entire time.

[@sergiimisiak2388]

For folks who are making a decision on G vs A, I’ve been in your shoes for a while. Watched this channel and tons of others. Intuition helped me make a decision and I never regretted it. Garmin Fenix 7 pro is simply a sooo great tool for my needs!!! Even in the city. The only smart feature I need is notifications. The rest are just toys. But the battery is what really matters! And a flashlight 🔦. I can't imagine how I would feel if I bought an AW. It doesn’t mean that AW is bad. But be honest with yourself, hide the brand name with your hand and answer yourself what features you need.

[@fitdude]

You have hit the nail on the head with every one of your points. I just wish I had seen this video before having to painfully come to the same conclusion on my own through experience. I have switched between Garmin and Apple watches 3 times and have finally settled on Garmin with iPhone like you.

[@UrbanArmed]

I also own both the Garmin Epix Pro Gen 2 51mm and the AWU and for me I wear the Garmin 90% of the time as my main sports tracker, I'll throw my AWU on when I go for runs just to use as a phone on my wrist but otherwise my phone is in my pocket. I hate running with "stuff" especially a bulky phone, so the AWU is awesome for that as sometimes I may extend a 5k run to 10k or even further on the fly, I can stop by a gas station, buy a water, text my wife that I'm going on a longer run etc. Garmin hands down is the better option for those focused on working out, training, running, doing long distance outdoors exercises.. but the AWU is nice in that I don't need a phone on me for extended periods of time.

[@chrisking6448]

I’ve been an Apple Watch user for 10 years and yes , I had the series 0 Apple Watch, first-ever version. I have tried Garmin & COROS twice and each time I’ve returned to Apple Watch because the integration with iOS is so awesome and I find charging my AWU every 2 - 3 days a very small price to pay for the fantastic functionality you get. Battery life is the ONLY thing that other brands have over Apple. However I fully agree with HikingGuy that if there was a way merge the two devices together, that would be awesome. Great video!

[@DeeKay1911]

For me - a pretty serious marathonner with 50+ miles / 90K a week, the Ultra has been a great companion. Yes - I would LOVE the battery to be 4-5 days so weekend trips etc. could be without charging, but it happens a couple of times a year, where it is relavant - in my everyday training the Apple Watch Ultra has been a great tool for my runs with occationally streaming music, my wife is able to get a hold of me or even check up on me if I'm a bit late back and still give me a TON of data - yes I could bring my phone, but for Hikes that might be okay but for runs I really don't like running with all that gear. I do hope Apple focuses more on battery and less on even crazier nits in brightness

[@forrandomstuff8031]

Congradulations on 100k subscribers! You are my go to youtube for everything hiking related !

[@strongjambbyprospeed9499]

I love my Epix gen2 51 mm, with a Samsung S24 Ultra phone. Battery lasts the better part of a month.

[@NickBEADG]

One of the deciding factors that I sold my Apple Watch Ultra 2 was like you said, I have my phone on me all the time so I don't need my watch to replicate that. But, mainly I can raise my wrist and see all my health metrics in real time right there on the main screen whereas apple watch you have to dig through to find simple things like your steps and for every health metric it doesn't show, you have to download yet another app. Even then it only updates your health metrics every 15 minutes and not in real time.

[@KnigthMare69]

Updating every 15 minutes and having to dig through the apps and menus to find your info is probably the greatest issue with the Apple Watch - other than battery life. I prefer using the forerunner series, got an amoled display though I barely touch it so it won’t be filled with fingerprints, it gives me all the info I want in real time, all easy to find if not on the main watch face, that I can swap with the press of two buttons, and put all the more important info that I want for when I’m running, cycling, hiking or whatever

[@sickair45]

best review I have watched on these two products, good job! I have had both and returned the AWU2 for the Garmin Epix Pro 2.

[@dub88acc]

Lile you mentíoned with the Garmin you're not always "connected". You can actually disconnect for a bit. Also battery life is a winner over apple watch. Was hiking in big bend and another hiker asked me how long was left on trail since her battery died on an apple watch and iphone. Battery life definitely gives peace of mind on long trails.

[@z3ro7o]

so people go on a hike and dont charge there battery before they going, yeah lol

[@chriswells156]

I had a lesser Garmin watch with a very clunky interface and limited applications. I used it for a year mostly because the battery was excellent and could theoretically solar recharge (didn’t seem to do much). I went back to an Apple Watch (Ultra 2) because its interface was easy and familiar and allowed me to use familiar hiking apps and maps. Charging is an issue, but it becomes a habit. On backpacks, I recharge with my Nitecore and cable charger.

[@BM-ms3gr]

Garmin anytime, battery life, usability, no brainer really for any serious outdoor enthusiast ⛺️

[@thejosef225]

Awesome video. I came to the same conclusion after using both for a while. Garmin Tactix 7 Amoled has been my go to now. It’s Phenomenal!

[@JasonRaneses]

Appreciate the video, always look forward to these. I’m in the same camp and also happen to have both watches - if the upcoming version of watchOS and future releases keep improving for the outdoors + Apple gets better on the battery life front, the decision to stick with the AW will be an easier one to make. Bonus points if Apple adds at least one more button to the Ultra.

[@krollpeter]

I have a Huawei and my son has a Garmin Forerunner 265. I thought my Huawei is good enough, but the Garmin is another level. The Garmin was somewhat expensive, but their software is cool. This is almost as having a personal coach.

[@Mdogbrown]

I always look forward to your videos comparing these two. I look forward to your review of the upcoming update that brings maps to the Apple Watch without the use of the iPhone.

[@TrustaBro1914]

Have Garmin fenix 7x . I felt like I was missing out on having an Apple Watch. Bought the Ap ultra 2 returned it in 48hrs. Lol kept my garmin

[@TheMadmax0609]

I have a Garmin Marq and i love it. Looks like a real rugged watch.

[@nrg4285]

Very solid review, nice

[@Elmatt13]

A voice of reason. Thank you, I thought I wanted an AWU but Garmin's battery is the difference.

[@ToolCraze]

Flashlight on the new Garmins is awesome

[@carloscssr]

I've got the epix gen 2 pro 51mm sapphire. It's much better than I ever realized before. The information, the metrics are beyond any other watch. The amoled screen is amazing. Glad i switch the instinct 2x for the epix pro 51mm 🤙🤙🤙

[@ADcrackerjack]

Sublime video brother.!

[@Neur0bit]

Great analysis. Mimics my experience. My daily driver is a SD Deepsea, so I only use sport/smart watches for workouts, running, and sleep tracking. My Apple watch worked great for a few years (until it died), but the major drawback is the battery. Having to charge it daily is not fun, specially when traveling. I got a Garmin 955 (non-solar) a couple of years ago and I am never going back. The battery is fantastic, which is measured in weeks, not hours, and the ease of use (buttons) and logically designed navigation screens make it a winner in every aspect. Only complaint I have is the proprietary charging cable, but pretty much everyone else does this, so I can’t ding them for it.

[@Adventures4vida]

I got the Epix pro gen 2 and the AWU and I love both. The AWU is my daily driver for work, its very useful, and the smart features are a bit better for everyday stuff. But when I got out for adventures, the Epix is much better. It tracks me better when I lose cell service, and the battery life isn't even close. I can record many activities with the garmin before I need a charge. If I have to choose one watch it would be the Garmin. I love the style over the AWU. But the connectivity to the Garmin app can be spotty. AWU is a VERY good work watch.

[@Cnsalmoni]

Got the apple only because I and my daughter get svts, and was able to show her cardiologist her ekg during the episode. Saved her having to have a 24 hr halter monitor, and saved myself the cost of the procedure.

[@VernL4]

I compared the AWU to the Fenix 7. I counted over 30 features that the Garmin has that the AW did not have at the time. Apple annoys me with having to download third-party apps and adding so many subscriptions. Garmin limits subscriptions to things that are completely optional. Also, I do not need to have an extra data line on my phone bill. Everything works on the Garmin without a data connection! It seems so simple and obvious to me- I bought the Garmin because it has more features for a lower price.

[@simo4068]

Great video i totally agree low battery life is the main problem and you need to load extra apps just to track your workouts and do simple watch things, unlike the garmin you can use it ou of the box. Just genuis Little device

[@gbhummel]

I use the Ultra as basically a back up for my iPhone (as these days if you lose your phone without a back-up you de facto cease to exist in modern America!). It has its moments, and I'll strap it on when I don't want to carry my phone, wallet or even when ocean swimming or scuba diving, but basically it is a plan B or emergency back-up for my iPhone. I agree, the frequent charging is its Achilles heel. The Fenix 7 pro is my everyday watch. Charging never factors in with it as a concern, providing uninterrupted metrics and the flashlight is used all the time -surprisingly.

[@DuKsOmI]

I agree 100 percent. Never had an Apple Watch myself, but my gf and it’s a nice smartwatch, but battery and no button-only are the main reasons, I would never trade my fenix against an Apple Watch. But it really depends on your priorities, of course.

[@user-ul5yu5hk9k]

I really enjoyed the Apple Watch nine because it integrates so well with the iPhone and still able to use how to do hiking activities. It’s a hard choice but since I spend more time in urban environments and I able to get an Apple Watch for only $300 brand new it just made sense.

[@dccd3237]

Garmin is much better for golfers from a battery and golf course availability and ease perspective. I also find Garmin more functionally, capable and water whether that swimming or whether you get caught in a downpour, I know the ultra is capable, but the touchscreen is not as convenient as the buttons and water scenarios. and the importance of the battery is super critical because there’s absolutely nothing worse than a last minute or unexpected travel or stay and knowing that your Apple Watch Simpli isn’t gonna make it that’s where Armin really shines because both do allow you to shut off a lot of features and that will extend it sometimes, but the Garmin that that extension can go into the days and weeks.

[@davidplotkin5173]

Great video, Cris, even though I'm not in the market for a watch. I have come to rely on my iPhone with Gaia and AllTrails and paper backups. I can't conceive of going anywhere, let alone a trail, without my phone, so the Apple Watch is superfluous. The Garmin's screen looks great for pre-loaded trails, and I'd be curious to compare using an iPhone 15 for simply hiking vs the Garmin watch. I'm not too interested in pulse rate etc. Perhaps you can do a quickie on that!

[@edstar81]

great review :)

[@joeliu2003]

Owned both the Epix Pro 2 and AWU2 for about 3 months and chose to keep the AWU2. I run often and leaving the phone behind - using the watch to connect to my HRM and AirPods is perfect. Often stop and get a smoothie and can easily pay without my phone. It’s very freeing. If I hiked longer distances often with a pack I would have kept the Garmin. Really both is the answer, but for my day-to-day the AWU2 is more useful especially considering HomeKit / ApplePay / Cellular

[@bery7028]

Exactly 👍

[@LobsterRavioli]

I prefer the Garmin ecosystem, but I usually go with the Apple Watch. I like the ability to leave my phone at home or in the car, and not have it as a distraction. I still can make an emergency call if needed with the Apple Watch, but none of the distractions a phone provides. If Garmin were to ever create a watch that can do what an Apple Watch does so a phone isn’t needed, I’d be in line to buy it.

[@gerardweber3733]

Great video as always! I was a Garmin guy after Fitbit and I truly miss the Garmin as an everyday watch. However, I started wearing hearing aids a little over a year ago and they are MFI and the app that I can control them with is on my iPhone. I bought an AWU to remotely control them w/o having to reach into my pocket 5 times a day. Garmin does not play nice with Apple…

[@canelami1285]

Garmin because I have an android phone and I'm more interested in fitness training

[@brent_f]

Garmin works better for me for all the reasons you stated. The watch’s integration of features plus the battery life is key. The Garmin web / app platform is an all in one depository that logs all your activities and gives you all the metrics you’ll ever need. Why go through extra steps / apps, to access additional info, when you don’t have to. Thanks for another informative video.

[@rgmALC]

My Fenix wouldn’t upload my activity to the Garmin app if I didn’t have cell service. Ironic, when the main attraction to a Garmin is using in the back country. But you couldn’t view an activity in the app in the back country.

[@ewxlt]

My Epix is SO laggy especially when attempting to use Garmin Pay. Only works 60% of the time. The other 40% it lags so hard i cant use it. Otherwise I love it. Sold my AWU.

[@GXPedition460]

Had the AWU1 & AWU2 while have the Tactix and Epix Pro AMD. Never again to AWU. Garmin is the best.

[@Ariozo111]

Have and use both, but my Ultra is the one i use when i on my mx bike with Esim and is way better for smartwatch things. But for most things and training/tracking is Far ahead on my Epix 2 Pro. :)

[@HuskyMike]

Decisions... decisions... Thought about getting an AW Ultra 2 (even though my Fenix 5X works fine) because I always use Gaia or Alltrails for hiking because they are more user friendly than Garmin or Caltopo. My Fenix is really just used as a regular watch at this point, although I upload a GPX file for the trail I'm on as a backup to my phone. While, admittedly, I have not done a deep dive into the workflow, it just seems, from my use so far, that the Garmin ecosystem is too spread out. Connect for trails, Earthmate for InReach, Sync to... sync. My thought was that an AW would allow me to continue to use Gaia or AllTrails and keep me from pulling my phone out of my pocket to see at what point/ distance of the trail I was on. But I use my phone for sending messages on the InReach and taking pictures while on the trail so it's always within reach anyway. I'm slowly moving over to Caltopo so, perhaps the Garmin would be a better fit for me. Thanks for continuing to put out valuable content. The information and editing is really first class.

[@drewmorrison]

For fitness and if you self coach yourself, Garmin blows Apple Watch out of the water. The analytics it gives are far greater than an Apple Watch and the accessories you can pair with it as well. However, it is annoying that Apple locks out some things but I don’t need my phone on my wrist. I want a watch on my wrist

[@clarkansas6590]

Good job

[@SIHRA2]

Garmin is doing good things and giving you what you need. Garmin is tool that works and it’s so comfortable. I tried them all. From ultra 2 to even the Casio outdooor watches but Garmin epic gen 2 pro 47 is amazing. 😻

[@davidligon6088]

Very helpful! I currently use a Fitbit, and I’m trying to decide between these two. I mostly want something for trail maps. I’d surely get lost without it. I currently use my iPhone, but it sleeps and loses connection with maps, the battery won’t last more than a couple hours, and it overheats when I try to leave it on. I’m thinking about an Apple Watch with a Garmin pocket mapping device. Or a Garmin watch with an iPhone.

[@spinnekopje]

I would go for a Garmin Fenix/Epix/.. without any doubt. I used my gpsmap quite a lot, but from the day I bought my fenix 5 plus the gpsmap hasn't seen much use. Now my go-to combination is my fenix 7x in combination with the Garmin Explore app on the phone for use on the trails. Using the phone I can very quickly (create and) load up courses/tracks/routes/waypoints onto my fenix (and start navigation, change on the fly, ..). I rarely use my phone during navigation, but if needed I can see the current track/navigation inside the Garmin Explore app, so when a bigger screen is useful it is there. Garmin Explore doesn't look great, isn't that intuitive when you start using it, but once you know how it works it makes the garmin watch even better on the trail and no internet connection required.

[@tebza321]

Garmin is just good for one's health, period😊

[@user-jp6ez7yx3c]

I chose the Apple Ultra watch (built in LTE) as my daily carry. I use it for hiking, walking, biking, kayaking, etc. I carry it for the fall and crash detection. I fell down while powerwashing the deck and the watch detected my fall and wanted to call 911 unless I said that I was okay. I also have the Garmin Fenix 6x pro which I also love but It had issues in the past about not contacting emergency contacts unless you had Garmin Connect app actively opened on your phone. When out of cell range. I have the iPhone 15 with satellite service and also the Garmin Instinct. I do prefer at times when doing walks and bike rides to leave my phone behind as my Apple watch does it all for me in the NYC area. Charging the Apple Watch is not a big deal but it is no comparison to my Garmin in that regards. I am also only a day hiker..

[@juffkasvennsson4609]

I wanted to ask you if you could give me a recommendation. I asked a guy from a biking channel for advice . I want a watch for navigation. Because my Iphone with Trailforks or Strava , does a poor job. I like that the Apple Watch still has all the bells and whistles a smart watch has. But it m curious how accurate the awu2 with work outdoors is in comparison to a Fenix 7 from Garmin . I usually do trail and downhill riding , and there is almost always bad cell reception. I really need navigation when I’m at a new trail and don’t know directions. Heart rate etc is not really important . Thanks for your great videos

[@maxiynacho]

You should try Bevel!

[@Bloody9Fingers]

I went with Garmin+iphone over Ultra 2+ Iphone and I don’t regret it. I feel like each device is better designed for its intended purpose and you get a better well rounded experience with having both. The Ultra 2 just felt like a repeat of the device I already had with me all the time anyway(my Iphone) plus the Garmin is far more reliable as a fitness tracker/offline navigation device, and loses almost no ability if something where to happen to your phone.

[@Hikingguy]

Agree 100%

[@ChandoraBox]

Because I'm wanting to just get rid of my phone I think I got to go with the ultra. I workout and run everyday but if I can do everything with my watch that my phone can do I'm going to take that option.

[@LeeBoris974]

Great comparison. I was an Apple Watch user who switched to Garmin for the last 3 years, but I am now back with Apple. I stopped running as much, and AW is better for me for every day use.

[@Phat-rj3jo]

@@LeeBoris974 yeah as a smart watch Apple is still far superior. I tried to use Garmin everyday after buying the MK3i for diving (as a dive computer Garmin is certainly better) but I missed AW’s convenience, so went back to Ultra and use the MK3i purely as dive computer. FYI I track sleep with Oura ring so Garmin’s superior battery life doesn’t matter for me since I just throw the ultra onto the charger when I go to sleep.

[@roel_719]

I chose Garmin simply because I'm an Android user 😂

[@Natan9000]

😂😂😂

[@NeilLavitt]

Yeh, that’s a big reason. Apple isn’t going to break that relationship with the iPhone any time soon. All good for competition.

[@goldensack_fieldadventuref4538]

Garmin can open to use by without pairing any phone.

[@3545688]

Smart and simple👍

[@chrisking6448]

However as an Android user you didn’t “choose”, Apple Watch is not an option

[@Eagle_1-327]

I like Garmin products and would prefer a Garmin watch for all the reasons you mentioned. But I have an Apple Watch for what I believe is the better crash detection and 911 notification features.

[@davidonzolo]

100k 👏🏻🎉🎉

[@test123]

there is 2$ adapter to place on usb c connector of phone charger and change watch, instead of wearing another cable.

[@georgevadnais3516]

I’m in the same situation with my samsung watch 6 44mm and my garmin forerunner 965.

[@doop2541]

Me too, but the more I use my Garmin, the less I care about my samsung brick. It's consistently horrible at HR and workout tracking, and the LTE in my mountainous rural area just isn't reliable so I have to take my phone with me for safety.

[@steveglennan]

The Garmin is the best choice for my needs.

[@SuperNeo]

Garmin is nice if you dont mind bad heart rate accuracy. Better use HR belt with it.

[@Hikingguy]

That hasn't been the case with my wearing both. The wrist heart rate is about the same for both.

[@paulgal]

Your battery only last 7 days with the Epix ? Mine last at least 2 weeks and that’s me working out every day including 3 hours cycles and some hikes. Do you have always on display ?

[@Vigger_gamin]

Soo buy both?

[@Aldinequeen]

Garmin! Battery life

[@ajpoe17]

As a cyclist, I went with the AWU and haven't looked back. I love being able to just leave my phone at home and go ride and still have full cell/data service... no sweaty phone from keeping it in a jersey pocket or no extra tube bag to carry it. Like HikingGuy mentioned, I subscribe to Athlytic to get the daily health info and it has been awesome. I use Workoutdoors to record any workouts that aren't recorded with my cycling computer (lifting, hiking, kayaking, etc.). I want to like a Garmin but I feel like I would be missing WAY too many of the niceties that I get with the AWU. The battery is also not an issue for me. I work at a desk for most of the morning at minimum. So, as soon as I turn on my Mac and it unlocks via the AWU, I throw it on the charger until it is back at 100%. If I forget one day, I still have enough juice to make it to the next morning.

[@lhzsdgsfbvv]

I think you underestimate the functions of the Garmin for cycling, other sports and general health. Next to that it also works better with biking computers and other sensors on your bike than the AWU.

[@ajpoe17]

@@lhzsdgsfbvv no, I'm very familiar. I don't use a watch of any brand to record cycling activities. I have a dedicated computer and all my sensors are connected to that. With that said, I have tested cycling with WorkOutDoors with AWU and all my sensors a couple of times to test it out and it works just fine. Maybe you missed the Athlytic mention but I have compared it with many friends using Whoop bands and Garmin and it is very similar for tracking health metrics. It is more about all the things the AWU can do FOR MY PREFERENCE that the Garmin can't that pushed me to the AWU. This is also personal. A multi day backpacker would probably appreciate the things the Garmin can do that the AWU can't… Like run on battery for several days without a charge. I'm sharing MY experience knowing very well what both are capable of.

[@Adventures4vida]

Garmin is better for cycling, the only thing I like about the AWU over the Garmin, is that AWU starts once you start pedaling where you have to remember to hit the start button with garmin.

[@sarahsundstrom1425]

Don't forget you're going to do a Garmin for dummies! 😅 I just got my pro and it is definitely a learning curve for me. I don't have a computer All I use is my phone in my normal life so that's to tell you all you need to know but I'm trying to figure it out heading out to the claims for 3 days up and central Alaska and going to see if I can actually find the maps lol Do you have any tips!?! I'm trying not to get overwhelmed with this thing and just keeping it very basic and simple at the moment

[@spinnekopje]

There is a map app on recent models of fenix/epix. Using that you can download the area you need, but it can take a long time to download and make sure to put the watch on the charger to do so. The map app can be opened on the watch just like you would start any sports activity.

[@sarahsundstrom1425]

@@spinnekopje I'm looking for the map app and having a tough time finding it I'm also wondering if the big three trails are downloaded on this already? And also wondering where the backtrack is? There is a lot on this phone way way more than what I'm used to using which is basically nothing on my wrist so far I'm enjoying it but I sometimes feel that it's just complicated my life and I'm all about simplicity one of the reasons why I live in a rustic cabin in the interior of Alaska is to keep things simple but then again Alaska is booming and there's nothing simple about driving into Fairbanks anymore

[@spinnekopje]

@@sarahsundstrom1425 Which model of Garmin do you have? It is useful to look at the guides from dcrainmaker. You can certainly configure Garmin watches to be basic, but you need to take time to do so and certainly if you aren't used to them it can be quite challenging. It can be useful to check out some beginners guides or so from DC Rainmaker. He also shows the map manager on the watch in a couple of videos about the fenix 7, but other models work almost the same.

[@-zerocool-]

As a Epix user, I dont know why its so hard for Garmin to properly update their user interface, its old AF, slow and clunky, always has been.

[@juffkasvennsson4609]

I wanted to ask you if you could give me a recommendation. I asked a guy from a biking channel for advice . I want a watch for navigation. Because my Iphone with Trailforks or Strava , does a poor job. I like that the Apple Watch still has all the bells and whistles a smart watch has. But it m curious how accurate the awu2 with work outdoors is in comparison to a Fenix 7 / epix from Garmin . I usually do trail and downhill riding , and there is almost always bad cell reception. I really need navigation when I’m at a new trail and don’t know directions. Heart rate etc is not really important . Thanks for your great videos

[@Hikingguy]

You might want to invest in an Edge unit for the bike, which I use for the same cases you mentioned. After that, Fenix with maps is a great rugged choice for out of cell range. You can navigate on the fly and integrate Trailforks and Strava.

[@davidkipperman5218]

Still sticking with the Garmin until I see how good (easy) the Apple maps work.

[@NeilLavitt]

Here in Australia we haven’t even got the first set of maps for hiking from last year. Now they’re announcing more. Frankly, it’s a US centric feature. Garmin will continue to rule here for many many years to come.

[@jesusoffthewalls]

Where can I buy that c2c sticker? Need one!!

[@Hikingguy]

Someone sent it to me - maybe you can find on Etsy or something

[@CoreyMarlin]

I think every Garmin user just wants their watch to work like an Apple watch, or vice/versa. If Apple catches up to Garmin in the fitness and outdoor department in the next few years, ill gladly switch over from my Garmin Fenix 7x. I also think Apple NEEDS to rework the OS to work button only if desired, and maybe even split the "action" button into two buttons to give us more ways to use it touchscreen-free.

[@andyfpt]

No!

[@NeilLavitt]

I think you’ll be waiting a long time. They always have inferior battery life due to the superior Smart Watch features.

[@CoreyMarlin]

@@NeilLavitt I don’t think it’ll be nearly as long as you’d expect.

[@NeilLavitt]

@@CoreyMarlin Apple putting in button control on their watches. I think it will be a dark cold day in hell before they do that. I think two buttons and a crown is all you’ll get. I’m with you though, it’d be nice to allow full button control in workout mode

[@MrKlyde44]

During scuba you only get 1button, the crown.

[@jagpreetsingh3221]

Apple products are consumer products and are asthetically "better looking" (although I hate square watches). but if you are an athelete or You like the outdoors and wild please go for Garmin. Nothing can beat it. The only sad part is that Apple intentionally restricts certain apps and forces you to use only their products. I faced that issue when I used my garmin watch with I phone. Never had any issue with my Pixel phone. It pairs perfectly and give the Garmin app full functionality. But the I phone garmin app sucks big time.

[@ggs0605]

The battery life of the Garmin is all you needed to say!

[@Blalby]

Hello :) which size is this epix pro? 47 mm? thanks

[@Hikingguy]

51mm - amzn.to/4bk9uOp

[@quiteintresting1916]

Samsung watch 4

[@Bubba___]

Has anyone else found the calories burned estimator on their garmin to be extremely off? I had an apple watch for a few years and it always seemed to be very accurate for hiking and other workouts (as in the active calories it said i burned during a hike would more or less match up with what an online hiking calorie calculator would say when you enter mileage, elevation, etc.). I got a fenix 7x a few weeks ago and it is a great watch, but the calories it estimates I burn are all over the place. It doesn’t seem to track NEAT calories like walking around cleaning, cooking etc. like my apple watch did (at least not in the active calories). I don’t really have a problem with that, but the workout calories always seem to be off. The average person will burn roughly 100 calories per mile walked or ran and much more if you are hiking adding in your backpack and elevation gain. Yet, my garmin usually gives me about 60 or 70 active calories per mile for walking or hiking (I am 5’11” 160 for reference). The indoor bike and treadmill workouts seem to be more or less accurate on the other hand. For hiking the active calorie estimate is extremely low. It is always less than 100 calories per mile regardless of distance or elevation gain. For example, the first hike I did with this watch was 10.88 miles with 2,031 feet of elevation. It said I burned 1,314 calories which I thought sounded pretty accurate, but I went into the app to look at the stats and that was the total calories burned, the active calories was 908. An online hiking calculator says the calories burned for that mileage and elevation at my weight was 1,370 which would be similar to what my apple watch’s active calories would be for this hike and what the active + resting calories were according to my garmin. At the same time, I tracked a strength training workout and it gave me like 200 actice calories for 20 minutes at light to moderate intensity even though strength training obviously doesn’t burn more calories than cardio. Sorry for rambling so much, but curious if anyone else has also experienced this. This isn’t enough for me to hate the watch or anything (and it is a great watch), but as expensive as it is I wish the calorie tracker was more accurate considering how it compares to a much cheaper apple watch.

[@JasonRaneses]

From experience, no watch tracks calorie burn accurately. The same is true for step counting and other metrics. You’re better off sticking with one platform and keeping an eye on your trends, whether up or down.

[@Hikingguy]

In my experience it's never the same on any device because they all use different algorithms to figure out burn and they're always just estimates. I try to make sure all my personal data is up to date, since that is a big part of the calculation. The main difference between the two as far as I can tell is that Apple might use a more conventional calculation (as evidenced by the closeness of the online calculator to your AW), whereas the Garmin uses Firstbeat ( www.firstbeatanalytics.com/en/features/ ), and I think the Firstbeat algorithm is more in depth than the traditional calculations. Firstbeat has been developed with pro sports teams, etc.: www.firstbeat.com/en/professional-sports/ - again, it's all just an estimate. From my experience with other Firstbeat based data like recovery, etc., it's been fairly accurate for me.

[@Bubba___]

Thanks for the responses guys

[@pmedic523]

So with the update to ios18 where Apple will adopt the messaging software that android has been using, do you think that the text message quick reply might be able to be added to the garmins?

[@Hikingguy]

RCS is coming to iPhone with iOS 18, but not sure about Garmin response integration - guessing that the new Fenix 8 / Epix 3 would have better features for integrating with smartphones, but just a guess

[@pmedic523]

@@Hikingguysure would be nice for that to happen!

[@4500ABC]

Does the garmin do weather alerts? Seems more and more now Weather can change pretty rapidly and with the Apple Watch I can have apps on there that give me alerts when there’s severe weather. Does the Garmin do that at all? Also, I’m not very familiar with the Garmin line which Garmin was featured in the video ?

[@Hikingguy]

It can get any notification from your phone, so if you have a severe weather alert there, you can get the notification on a Garmin (any notification). What's cool about the Garmin is that if you have an inReach, you can also get severe weather alerts outside of cell phone range - kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHu7q3V6odxqZ5I And the watch is Epix Pro 51mm - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2iXfJVjqsl_ptk

[@4500ABC]

@@Hikingguy I do not have a Garmin in reach. I have a Zoleo, but they have a new affiliation with somebody also for severe weather alerts. I just like having it on my wrist. I think one of the main selling points for me and why I’m looking at it is the battery life. My Apple Watch, I have to charge every day or two and to be honest, it’s kind of pain in the behind to have to charge your watch when on the trail

[@RiqMoran]

Apple is good, the BEST, at emulating the experience of slapping a phone on your wrist. Apple Watches are the best at all the things your phone does better. But it doesnt have the buttons, battery, or, most importantly, the data presentation software of the Garmin. The Garmin is the best at actually being a useful training device, which the apple watch is not at all.

[@JoyDasjoydasofficial]

Garmin is better than AW any-day.

[@mmafighter077]

When talking about pairing Garmin with iPhone... "or whatever, an Android" 😂😂 I feel the same way about Apple and all of their limitations. Lol

[@martinhoelicker3273]

I have garmin watch . Apple Watch and iPhone. I’m a cyclist and when I have any of these devices with me they log my pedal revolution as a step. Do you know why?

[@mikem4215]

Garmin. Easy decision.

[@andyfpt]

I love your videos Hiking guy. But to those that seem to think Garmin users want their Garmin to be more like Apple, you really need to stop! Only Apple lovers want their Garmin to work like an Apple which would be inferior. I use both a Pixel for personal use and an iPhone for work, plus I'm tech support for my wife's Apple watch, so I'm intimately familiar with these ecosystems. The thought of my Garmin watch becoming something akin to Apple is not a happy thought. Plus Garmin Connect is light years ahead of Apple Health. You need 3rd party apps on the Apple to get close. Also forget about golf on your AW as it's a garbage user experience requiring a 3rd party app, whereas all the courses are built right into the Garmin with nothing to download or buy.

[@user-vt4eh1os3m]

Whoa!! Burning 6K calories is insane!! I need that kinda drive lol

[@Hikingguy]

Ha yea, did 2/3 of the Timberline Trail in OR in a day. Lots of up and down made it seem even tougher.

[@NickBEADG]

I'll stick with my Garmin Epix Pro 2. If you have an iPhail though, you lose a few features.

[@andyfpt]

If some people weren't Apple Kool-aid drinkers the AW wouldn't even be in this discussion. The Garmin ecosystem is a superior sports and health oriented platform in virtually every possible way. What I hear Apple lovers saying is they just want the watch to be an extension of their phone. That's not what a sports watch is about.

[@fitdude]

I loved the rendition on an Uber watch! That’s the dream of having them get married and have a baby with the best of both worlds.

[@davisbest]

I refuse to believe that any actual athlete is a using an AW. Too many issue as you've gone through in the video. Garmin (or like a like competitor) is the option for athletes or serious outdoor enthusiasts and an AW would be great for everyday casual use. Garmin especially centralizes all your data, last for weeks or more, and is totally customizable for all work outs (and sensors). I tried to mimic the Garmin tracking on an AW and even with +15.00 per month in subscriptions, I cannot get it to function like my Garmins. Hard no for work out purposes.

[@rgmALC]

Chase the Summit uses an Apple Watch Ultra and Garmins to run 100 mile trail runs. I don’t know what you mean by an “actual athlete”?

[@roel_719]

​@@rgmALCanother influencer paid by Apple as sponsor 😂

[@rgmALC]

@@roel_719 I mean you can literally Google ultra runners who use an AWU. I honestly don’t know what else you need

[@chucky1golf]

Sussed the Apple Watch 2 after 1 week (samsung watch user) way too much dark space, constant headaches using it too. Would love a top notch Garmin one day.

[@NeilLavitt]

Come on, admit it, you’ll wear both 😂. You’re too right that I’d love them to do merged. Apple is slowly getting there and the next Watch OS has built in training readiness. Curiously, it does not use HRV which Apple apparently considers problematic😮.

[@Hikingguy]

Yea it's strange that HRV is not included. I've been watching HRV over the last few years on my watch and it's a good indicator along with resting pulse for me. Wonder if the HRV calcs on the AW are just not up to snuff, or if Apple didn't find a correlation with your "vitality" - overall I'm liking the FirstBeat analytics that Garmin integrated a few versions back. You just need to give it some time.

[@NeilLavitt]

@@Hikingguy I have HRV on my Apple Watch Ultra - I had to change a setting relating to heart risk to activate it I think. Compared to my Fenix 6x Pro, it measures slightly higher but almost perfectly mirrors the changes.

[@idntrmmbr5321]

100.000 🎆

[@KurtMcScotsman]

It doesn't matter how many fancy features it has if the battery is dead 2 days into a trip.

[@D0Mlas360]

I use both cause I'm an iPhone and android user 😂

[@Sandra-dt4ec]

As a boomer I’d make the comparison that the Apple Watch is akin to a great stereo system, but you have to buy the albums to listen to great music. The Garmin watches are like a great radio receiver, but you need to select your radio stations in hopes of finding music you like. Both the Ultra and Garmin watches are great devices and it is hard not to wear both at the same time so your head doesn’t explode!

[@Hikingguy]

I like it!

[@PozaRica17]

Are you wearing the 47 or 51 mm on your wrist in the Garmin?

[@Sandra-dt4ec]

51

[@Hikingguy]

@@PozaRica17 51

[@rgmALC]

I chose the watch that is better for day-to-day normal tasks. I still work out, but that doesn’t encapsulate what I do all day every day. Because of that, I picked the ultra because it’s just a better day today Watch. I can leave my house without my phone and get calls and text on it, I can pay for things with it. 98% of people do not need a Garmin and I’ve used both

[@Hikingguy]

Not sure I'd say 98% of people don't need a Garmin, I think it's about what's more important to you, having the day to day functions without your phone, or having a deeper insight into your training and health

[@lsh-zi2lc]

@@Hikingguy Love using the buttons for the various functions on my Garmin! Uploading alltrails is so easy and I enjoy all the stats available.

[@rgmALC]

My AWU gives me that deeper insight into my health and fitness using Bevel or various other apps on the App Store. So that’s why I say 98% of people don’t need a Garmin. “I NEED it for battery life” Do you though? Where are you that you don’t have a battery bank or a plug? Long distance hiking? Even then…you have rest days in town and resupplies. “I NEED it for training” Again, through apps, I can get basically the same thing as I did on my Fenix. And if I was THAT serious about my training, I’d use Training Peaks which I can on AW now. So there’s a very small percentage of people who do NEED a Garmin. But then, we don’t really need either watch.

[@lukas_berger]

FYI, you can pay with a Garmin watch too, using Garmin Pay.

[@pedrovorpholiveira9154]

@@Hikingguy 👍. Para atletas, de Trail running, por exemplo, Garmin é a escolha mais acertada

[@emersitexitonly]

Suunto

[@seenochasm7101]

I just wish Apple could do both man lol what’s with these shitty 2010 battery specs man wtf lol

[@jeremyjj6681]

No LTE no party sorry garmin. never i m gonna pay 800 dollars for epix with no LTE. with garmin you have to practice your sport with your own phone on you its a shame in 2024 when you know the price 800 $! im gonna wait for the fenix 8 because rumors speak about LTE

[@jeromebullard6123]

I can’t say enough about how much I dislike huge watches. Way too bulky and looks stupid and ghetto.