The 2021 Search For Mysterious and Tragic Kenny Veach M Cave : Part 3

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Aquachigger

Aquachigger

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This is part three of my search for the Kenny Veach M Cave. In this video series, I perform a hike that closely mirrors the actual steps that Kenny Veach took when he made a video trying to rediscover a cave he stumbled upon on an earlier hike and where he experienced some sort of paranormal sensations upon trying to enter the cave. I use his video as a guide on this hike and match up each of his video scenes to make sure I stay on the correct track in this M Cave search.
For those of you who do not know, Kenny Veach was a fellow KZbinr that disappeared 6+ years ago in this very area. The M Cave is supposedly located about one hour northwest of Las Vegas, Nevada, and in a very rugged, mountainous, and inhospitable desert landscape. It is not known if he was continuing his search for the M Cave or on some other adventure when he disappeared, but his phone was found at the mineshaft I visit in this video, and his truck was found at the "trailhead" where I start this hike.
I have broken this long video search of the Kenny Veach M Cave down into several shorter segments. This is part three of three.
Part One is here: • The 2021 Search For My...
Part Two Here: • The 2021 Search For My...
About Aquachigger:
I enjoy metal detecting for historical items like gold coins, relics, silver coins, and other buried treasures. I also metal detect for gold and silver nuggets and even meteorites. I like to make videos that promote my choice of lifestyle that includes outdoor adventure, metal detecting, yapping, searching for river treasure, SCUBA diving, exploring abandoned places, hiking, caving, caring for animals and pets, and observing the things outdoors that often go unnoticed by most people who are not familiar with outdoor adventures and nature. I keep my KZbin "Aquachigger" channel family-friendly and hope you subscribe if you like my style.
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@nickedee99
@nickedee99 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, the use of a drone would be perfect to find the entrance of a cave and cover a large area without breaking a sweat
@longway1599
@longway1599 2 жыл бұрын
good luck trying to use a drone next to area 51
@thomasshingleton9289
@thomasshingleton9289 2 жыл бұрын
@Long Way We did it and got shut down in flight! They locked the drone, remotely, and we couldn't fly it until we took a test and passed it.Very strange.
@villaj619
@villaj619 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasshingleton9289 can you elaborate a bit more please. Thanks.
@chrexxie
@chrexxie 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasshingleton9289 huh?
@chuck25
@chuck25 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasshingleton9289 strange lol you are in a restricted area using a drone. and you find it strange what happened afterwards..next time try to go as close as you can of a military base and take pictures ,you will see some "strange" things happens to you too 🤦‍♂️
@SinCityOutdoors
@SinCityOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting... I’ve been all over those hills and have never heard Kenny’s story. Drop the pin on the valley that exits those mountains. I’d like to check it out next time I’m up there. Also, just a quick observation... if that was truly his last video and he didn’t find it, he probably changed his path slightly to cover a different area. No sense in getting skunked twice. That more dangerous valley at the end of this video looks interesting. Also, Kenny gave some horrible advice on his video... he said he liked to go as far as he can without water before drinking. I use to be a military instructor who would road march for miles with soldiers and have seen dozens of people drop from dehydration. If you start tripping that’s usually a sign to stop and drink. If you blow off some of these minor signs you will end up disoriented without realizing it eventually ending up face down in the dirt. If no one is there to loosen clothing, splash water on you and elevate your feet... it’s game over especially at an older age. I was hours away from death on a sheep hunt due to dehydration and I’m one who can go miles without water. I downed several bottles of water and still had a huge headache. I walked into the ER that night and they said I was hours away from potential death due to my age (40s). Another man had died the day before for the same reason so it’s a lot more common than we think in the desert. Anyway, it’s an interesting story and anyone who goes out.... drink water 😉
@dickfitswell3437
@dickfitswell3437 2 жыл бұрын
Kenny seemed to have alot of experience and I don't think he would refuse himself hydration. If it's close to area 51....#Missing411
@travelsouthafrica5048
@travelsouthafrica5048 2 жыл бұрын
electrolyte not water , drinking water alone makes dehydration worse , I think you will have powerade in the US as well , always take a few bottles with when you go on a long hike or run
@4corander
@4corander 2 жыл бұрын
The FBI claimed he communicated with himself over the internet several times from different vpn's since his 'disappearance'. He had some asset debt he might have been running from... But what do I know
@georgetidd8972
@georgetidd8972 2 жыл бұрын
True. Usually people who go to the desert are dehydrated before they get there! Great hike! Dang. 10 hours.
@johnhenryholiday4964
@johnhenryholiday4964 2 жыл бұрын
That is a prime snake area.... it would be interesting to forensically find out what happened to him.... its only a guess but it makes one wonder if he got bit by a snake in an area that disabled him quickly.... He then died and his bones were scattered by coyotes etc.... We may never know.... but lets hope the mystery gets solved .....
@privateaccount6213
@privateaccount6213 3 жыл бұрын
I think the M cave definitely exist, Kenny wasn’t sure exactly where he saw the cave at and being that he was so shaken up by the vibes, it made him confused about his area. I personally think it higher up then like he first said.
@SnickersEatsCookies
@SnickersEatsCookies 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, and it’s definitely real.. His girlfriend said he battled depression btw... he could of commited suicide
@minderleister9255
@minderleister9255 3 жыл бұрын
M Cave is already found. Its just covered up with stones. Just watch Sean Horlacher´s Hike-Video
@jasoncollins3389
@jasoncollins3389 3 жыл бұрын
Watch part 2 time stamp 1:27-1:28
@jf8138
@jf8138 3 жыл бұрын
Vibes are stupid. That is what a liar says. He just felt scared. Vibes.... Jesus. Its the same reason why one person will think there are ghosts in a room, while another doesn't feel it at all. Because it is all in yer head. The M Cave sounds like a story that some weirdo made up, after finding a sort of interesting thing. The M cave is a crap story from a crap source who believed in vibes. There are tons of people just like Kenny, and they often are narcissistic liars. OR they are depressed and it makes them feel better to find meaning in having made a "discovery"
@VeryBlandPerson
@VeryBlandPerson 3 жыл бұрын
@@jf8138 stfu also vibes matter and he had depression and you said I would make them feel better lieing well he committed suicide so wtf he was a good person to
@behindthewolfseyes
@behindthewolfseyes 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the time when we find something cool in the bush, it's because it is off the path and out of the way. While we remember roughly where it was, we sometimes forget that we approached from a weird direction or went off trail to pee. A rockslide, a new plant, or a weird fold in the ground could obscure the entrance, too. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the M Cave existed in that area, either in scary valley or up along the hillside. Great video! I second the idea of a drone mission.
@drums911
@drums911 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, drones are prohibited in that Dessert Refuge area. I can't imagine why...
@devynbrinsfield
@devynbrinsfield 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how honest and realistic you are.
@chrysanthepaxinos2839
@chrysanthepaxinos2839 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the series. I can see it was hard on you, the terrain etc, but since hiking isn't my thing, I appreciate you bringing this to me and explaining all the formations and geo stuff. Very interesting. I think the poor man wanted to not be found and was more than able to accomplish that given his experience. RIP Kenny.
@dustyboy3373
@dustyboy3373 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he's Dead if you wouldve like to pronounce to be dead and get. A job as a secret agent the only thing to do is find something scarry or something weird and than never be heard of again
@sarahsmthrox
@sarahsmthrox 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy you talking about and explaining the landscape, erosion and artifacts. I grew up with my Mom talking to me like this and it's become a part of my thought process during all outdoor adventures.
@anthonyxd5496
@anthonyxd5496 3 жыл бұрын
your an absolute brave legend cause your not afraid being there by yourself...
@aserta
@aserta 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that small cave/overhang is right out of the period correct descriptions of what they would use in that time frame. Really neat to see one. Also, really neat to see one without graffiti or modern vandalism.
@markreap9465
@markreap9465 3 жыл бұрын
The only video I make snacks for before watching.
@davestelling
@davestelling 3 жыл бұрын
I keep a lg. bag of Combos nearby for all A. C. episodes!
@rachaelleann9847
@rachaelleann9847 3 жыл бұрын
Lol me to its better than a good movie lol
@SnickersEatsCookies
@SnickersEatsCookies 3 жыл бұрын
Macaroni and cheese
@stevenkaae9490
@stevenkaae9490 3 жыл бұрын
I've been hiking in areas like this for years and its easy to get off track and be miles off course, but by his video you did good thanks for taking us along
@andrewbarclay1923
@andrewbarclay1923 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting your hikes around that area. Kenny's M Cave mystery has always interested me, the vivid way he described his perceived encounter with the cave did make me wonder if he might have not eaten and drank enough when/if he entered a cave, and that perhaps a little bit of dehydration and exhaustion caused him to hallucinate a little. You certainly covered a lot of ground and I guess either he was wildly incorrect about the proposed caves location, or he was using some poetic license for entertainment reasons. Looking at some of those drops, and seeing how the ground is very uneven, I am certain he probably ventured higher, took a chance on jumping across or down, and badly injured his ankle and/or leg. Such a shame. Anyway, I'm new to your Channel so I'll certainly be back again. Thanks again for uploading this, you went to a lot of trouble to find the 'M' cave. I'm sure had it been located where Kenny described it, you'd have found it.
@charlotter8276
@charlotter8276 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was those things he ate? I just came across this story. Very interesting.
@Boaka
@Boaka Жыл бұрын
i agree with you but one thing to note is the kenny’s camera was found in a mineshaft which means if he did hurt himself he made it to a mineshaft which would be weird to do if injured but is quite possible
@angelaopowiada7621
@angelaopowiada7621 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for those videos. I'm impressed I've found anyone looking for M Cave in 2021. I appreciate you followed Kenny Veach's steps and filmed the area in good quality. The M-cave might not existed but I'm not even interested in that cave, I'm interested in human, in his story. People tend to consider conspiracy theories more likely than facts and psyche, which is sad and unfair. Fantastic videos and hope to hear the solution of Kenny Veach's case. Greeting from Norway.
@Wally03
@Wally03 2 жыл бұрын
What do you infer might’ve happened?
@Kekdmcmc
@Kekdmcmc Жыл бұрын
The m cave is in kennys video It’s just covered up with large rocks
@jesssaenz9854
@jesssaenz9854 Ай бұрын
Where in his video? Time stamp please?
@ericday604
@ericday604 3 жыл бұрын
Man what a hike that was, and I was just watching!! Really, thanks for bringing us along on this one. Glad your safe brother!!
@lawyerlarrry
@lawyerlarrry 3 жыл бұрын
Chig is the king of the outdoor nap. Love it.
@hannahswheelieawesome
@hannahswheelieawesome 3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine a worse place to nap..haha
@Hyperchicken
@Hyperchicken 3 жыл бұрын
This was an incredible series.
@robertking288
@robertking288 3 жыл бұрын
Kenny is in Mexico drinking Corona beer and laughing at everybody who's looking for him.
@ericrundgren7257
@ericrundgren7257 3 жыл бұрын
In Zihuatanejo with Andy Dufresne and Red
@maxsmith8196
@maxsmith8196 3 жыл бұрын
Tupac is alive and hiding in Kosovo
@gonorrheadischarges3021
@gonorrheadischarges3021 3 жыл бұрын
He may be in Méjico, but if...he is not laughing. After the people' effort to find him...what?
@benwilcox3365
@benwilcox3365 3 жыл бұрын
You've got@@gonorrheadischarges3021
@ljb8157
@ljb8157 3 жыл бұрын
He committed suicide His girlfriend already spoke out about this
@russbonk1372
@russbonk1372 3 жыл бұрын
Ole Chigg....such a great re-creation of a hike taken by a troubled soul who never returned. We look forward to all your adventures Beau, and this one certainly captivated us. Your emotions were clearly evident in your final remarks, and I'm sure your ride back home was very reflective! Rest up.....and we'll await your next video. Thanks !!
@samconroyy
@samconroyy 3 жыл бұрын
Can tell you're a veteran being able to take a nap in that position! Ouch my neck
@abztrakt7071
@abztrakt7071 2 жыл бұрын
If Kenny has passed on, I'm sure he is there with you keeping you safe and enjoying your adventure and laughing with you 😇
@byronfoppola8676
@byronfoppola8676 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't work that way
@jiayouchinese
@jiayouchinese Ай бұрын
@@byronfoppola8676 Byron was there haunting you and laughing AT you, so he doesn't support Kenny laughing WITH you
@cj-cw7wi
@cj-cw7wi 3 жыл бұрын
I am haunted by any disappearance of someone in the wild. I think most people are. A young man went missing in Southern Utah a few years ago. His parents thought he had gone to school but when he didn't return they found his wallet, phone and what appeared to be a suicide note. People have been searching for him in the desert surrounding St. George, Utah for years. Suicide or not their friends and family never get closure. It's a terrible thing.
@iversonjcameron
@iversonjcameron 3 жыл бұрын
Missing 411 can -am ???
@ljb8157
@ljb8157 3 жыл бұрын
Selfish! So fucking selfish!
@oliviasmith7044
@oliviasmith7044 3 жыл бұрын
I am too. Someone avove mentioned the documentary Missing 411. After watching that, I can’t forget these very sad stories especially when these people, verified by friends and family, were skilled outdoorsman.
@曾志海-c4z
@曾志海-c4z 3 жыл бұрын
Do these missing have something to do with aliens?
@ljb8157
@ljb8157 3 жыл бұрын
@@曾志海-c4z who knows. It's all just speculation. In my opinion, I'd love to say it's portals into different planes of existence.
@grundyb
@grundyb 2 жыл бұрын
I had a great time following your trip looking for Kenny’s M cave and Kenny. Thanks so much for sharing your hike. I am in New Jersey so I have a completely different terrain then this and it was so much fun seeing the rocks, mountains and desert. Have a beer for me! 🍺 🏜 🌵
@johnhubbard6262
@johnhubbard6262 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, but I grew up in desert-like that and you can be right on top of an entrance and not see it, and the smallest entrance can turn out to be the door's largest caves. Found more than a few by watching for bats coming out at dusk.
@scottrenkema5130
@scottrenkema5130 2 жыл бұрын
Love the show! I'm a newcomer to it, that phrase you said at the end of a video, is one I know well, and there is only one place you will here it! Semper Fi bro!
@joshthemediocre7824
@joshthemediocre7824 3 жыл бұрын
What a cool adventure, The M cave is BS but Kenny is now immortalized, and maybe that's what he always wanted. I really like these kind of videos.
@jackhoff3910
@jackhoff3910 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe, or maybe he simply wanted his death to be a mystery instead of letting his loved ones find out that he was depressed and desperate and lonely and just wanted to die. He invented the M-cave as a cover story. This case reminds me of how pets on the brink of death will wander off long distances and conceal themselves in crevices or under structures where they will die completely alone and in complete seclusion.
@SnickersEatsCookies
@SnickersEatsCookies 3 жыл бұрын
Brudder
@souhailthedabboy
@souhailthedabboy 3 жыл бұрын
The M cave isn't bs, a youtuber found it and there really was something off about it, a nail in a rock, strong airflow coming from a single spot, unusual cracks on the inner walls etc
@jackhoff3910
@jackhoff3910 3 жыл бұрын
@@souhailthedabboy There is nothing off about any of that. That is typical of just about every mine tunnel in Nevada. I have personally seen several mine entrances shaped as the letter M. It is caused by partial collapse that's retained in the middle by sagging timbers, usually. Most of the oldschool mines will have secondary shafts dug somewhere in the hills to provide draft/ventilation to the main workings and it is also not unusual for drafts to permeate through fractures. Nails in rock were a typical way to hold up conductors or airlines.
@Sshadowing
@Sshadowing 3 жыл бұрын
@@souhailthedabboy he found a cavern, that was a foot deep. A 2 year old couldn't get lost in there
@rickyb2200
@rickyb2200 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking us along on your search/hike, the scenery was beautiful. I've watched other people's videos searching for Kenny and the M cave they all seem to end the same. It's sad if he is out there and never found but who knows? Thanks Chigg.
@Je559_
@Je559_ 2 жыл бұрын
So noone has found it?!
@mojavegold-
@mojavegold- 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed the cave might have been just a "desert rat" story to attract followers. I have to say though, that I live out in the boonies in a very similar kind of environment - and back when I was out hiking and Jeeping the back country on a more regular basis, there were many times that we found interesting features, but were unable to relocate them again on a subsequent visit without GPS.
@giuliom8520
@giuliom8520 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful place and great camera footage! Very high resolution!🤩 I think you're the right man for the job of Tracking down the M-Cave.
@neillh
@neillh 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your video 👍
@Darkmoonvid
@Darkmoonvid 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent search! Highly informative and I think you did a great and thorough job! if the cave exists at all, it is probably somewhere else and he mis-remembered where he saw it. Or perhaps he just made something up, knowing he was going to committ suicide and wanted to leave an unsolvable riddle for people to wonder over and follow in his steps. If so, it worked.
@daytimedreaming8307
@daytimedreaming8307 2 жыл бұрын
Kenny was an inventor of peculiar things, hmmmm...
@nobus1479
@nobus1479 2 жыл бұрын
You are very much brave to do this by your self I would get lost in all those mountains thank you sir for the tour
@savagesquirrel9828
@savagesquirrel9828 3 жыл бұрын
I think he wanted to disappear. The phone on the mine shaft was too convenient. I bet he had a burner phone and someone picked him up. Maybe he owed back taxes or child support. Maybe he wanted to create a legend. I bet he is alive somewhere. Great of you to take us along. Thanks!😀😀
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 3 жыл бұрын
no such thing occured.
@kevio6868
@kevio6868 3 жыл бұрын
he's around...in heaven or on earth
@patrickconroy9535
@patrickconroy9535 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 you always you always stick your nose in when somebody talks about kenny we don't want you here so good by.😠
@ljb8157
@ljb8157 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickconroy9535 right! He just keeps posting the same comment on every thread without explanation... as is everyone is going to say "oh... random person on KZbin says no such thing occurred.. so he clearly must be right"!
@stevenochoa7958
@stevenochoa7958 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us take the journey with you, Beau.
@shawnmccomb1446
@shawnmccomb1446 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you are OK. Might be a good idea to have a buddy along for this kind of adventure.
@kathleennorton6108
@kathleennorton6108 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@werner.x
@werner.x 3 жыл бұрын
I think, he couldn't convince one of his buddies for this trip and the schedule is getting tight - if you hike there a month later, it might get to0 much heat, a lot more dangerous and many snakes may be out too.
@Kpiphony
@Kpiphony 2 жыл бұрын
I found your search for Kenny very interesting. It was unfortunate that he wasn't found, but found your knowledge about the agave pits and paintings enjoyable.
@captaininjustice8982
@captaininjustice8982 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the m cave is a portal or from another dimension or like a glitch in the matrix. Sometimes it's here sometimes not. RIP Kenny.
@Leanne_w
@Leanne_w 2 жыл бұрын
Nope that’s just nature, there’s no portal. You watch to many movies and believe they’re real. Either Kenny believed it was there, or he said it was there to make it mysterious for a KZbin video.
@codenamedingo6271
@codenamedingo6271 2 жыл бұрын
@@Leanne_w No offense, but are you the arbiter of truth? There are plenty of things undiscovered and unknown. To state that such and such doesnt exist is only ignorance and a limitation on the capacity of growth for man. I mean, underground bases exist, entrances to subterranean caves and layers are a very common thing with this planet. I would imagine Groom Lake, Area 51, and the military bases in the area, definitely have underground elements to them. Maybe this "M" cave was simply a ventilation shaft or an emergency exit route from one of these underground bunkers. Until someone finds it and can document it, it remains a mystery.
@MikeMcInroe
@MikeMcInroe 3 жыл бұрын
It is a good thing you are doing this trek while you are young! Awesome little adventure Chigg and hope one day to make it out again to that area to do some hiking and exploring. Thanks for posting and take care and glad you made it safe. Mike in sunny Florida
@darkwood777
@darkwood777 3 жыл бұрын
Did you see Scott Nuttall's YT videos? They are pretty interesting and extensive. He even went down into the mine and saw it was collapsed or purposely filled in around another ladder at the bottom. I believe the M cave is that M-shaped hollow up on the wall of the canyon that you see early on. Kenny said he never actually got close to the M cave because she says he felt vibrations and was freaking out before he ever got close to it. So the cave is mainly a figment of his imagination, or else it is in one of the side canyons, although Scott extensively explored those.
@muddawgkomm9642
@muddawgkomm9642 3 жыл бұрын
Scott is awesome! I watched every single one of Scott's vids and if ol Kenny was up yonder breathing or not Scott would have layed eyes upon him! Scott didnt leave not one cave untouched, one thing Scott did find in the wash though (just down from pine nut pass or whatever he called it) was those pair of boxer underwear! Sure it could have been anyone's but HE NEEDED to gather them in a bag and take them in in case dna or something else could have been done to identify who's sweaty butt crack those came from. Thats the only piece of compelling evidence their might be left of KV if he got beamed up or eatin by samsquintch! Everyone is coming to Idaho, I wouldn't doubt it if i see him up here in the next couple days or weeks. Lmao
@Kalebshadeslayer
@Kalebshadeslayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@muddawgkomm9642 everyone and their brother is moving to Idaho. Sucks for the natives that are stuck here.
@muddawgkomm9642
@muddawgkomm9642 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kalebshadeslayer yep, right their with ya! The growth is happening so fast here on the Rathdrum Prairie ALL the fields are disappearing at an alarming rate ☹. Us natives cannot afford the prices that the out of staters are driving our economy into! I'm in Post Falls, where you located?....... may i ask?
@Kalebshadeslayer
@Kalebshadeslayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@muddawgkomm9642 Benewah County. 3 Generations sharing 5 acres. I suppose I am glad it isn't just us. there have been 8 properties on our road that have sold in the last year, for about 6 times the actual worth. It is everywhere, especially up the St. Joe, hundreds, if not thousands of properties sold in the past few years. I am wondering what all these out of staters think they are going to do for work!?!?! Our quiet little neighborhood is not so quiet anymore D: It is getting to the point where I want MY government to protect MY interests and enstate some price controls or something to slow this crap down. Or at least make it worth it for the rest of us. They are going to find out the hardway the next time we get big fires out here. Sigh Growth at all costs I suppose.
@muddawgkomm9642
@muddawgkomm9642 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kalebshadeslayer its getting so terrible here with growth! Absolutely hate it! I for a couple years now have thought about approaching our county commissioners about instituting a building moratorium! Something needs done to preserve what land we do have left on the prairie here. Our roads are so overcrowded its scary because emergency resources already have enough to deal with. The housing market is so grossly over priced us natives can't move unless it's to another state which believe me we dont want to, we love it here..... use to love it, starting to really hate it now.
@GDavid1955
@GDavid1955 10 ай бұрын
Great job of lining up your visit with his video. Having been thru the SW many times, I know how much time of day can affect the appearance, as shadows will hide features, while sunshine can make it look completely different. Even the weather and time of year can make it difficult to replicate Veach's video.
@ccv972
@ccv972 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding why Kenny parked so far away. I think he decided to take the scenic route because he knew it would be the last hike he'd ever take.
@OutdoorsygalO
@OutdoorsygalO 3 жыл бұрын
Poor Kenny. Poor you. What a hike! Can’t blame you for taking a rest. I am so glad there weren’t any more snakes. I noticed a few small caves up higher, and they looked real hard to get at. I know this might sound silly, but I heard that dousing rods can sometimes locate buried bodies. 🤔hmmmm
@dougalexander7204
@dougalexander7204 3 жыл бұрын
Phew. The Kenny mystery continues and our Chigg is safe. But, how about that adorable kitten?
@pbberger2002
@pbberger2002 Жыл бұрын
I love it when you’re talking about the hike and you say the hike that “WE” just did. My lazy ass is watching this on my iPad. Thanks for doing all the work.
@aquachigger
@aquachigger Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy the vids.
@sallyann1363
@sallyann1363 3 жыл бұрын
Chigg, my theory is that Kenny made up the story of the M cave, perhaps to keep people wondering, as his legacy.
@IratePuffin
@IratePuffin 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. Then he either went out there somewhere to die or is living it up somewhere else.
@muddawgkomm9642
@muddawgkomm9642 3 жыл бұрын
@@IratePuffin he's sittin back watching the vids laughing at every single one of our comments we've made. I watched a series of vids someone else had made that went to investigate the area also and that poor fella...... I'll tell ya under the definition of "Determination" it says his name under it! Myself, I highly doubt ol Kenny is up their...... alive or dead.
@rachaelleann9847
@rachaelleann9847 3 жыл бұрын
Probably
@JavierLopez-mr3qh
@JavierLopez-mr3qh 2 жыл бұрын
@@muddawgkomm9642 I couldn't find any Kenny Veach (or Kenneth) in the missing persons database. I smell a hoax
@MattGDreal
@MattGDreal 2 жыл бұрын
@Bedsick Hobo I don't think an online site would be the best source
@boredwarlock5216
@boredwarlock5216 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you come back and have another go at finding Kenny or the M cave! Thanks for sharing the hike with us
@bennywang5356
@bennywang5356 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy you are safe. I think the M cave is maybe just a story. Thank you.
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 3 жыл бұрын
its not a story he filmed it--however he was lying about it.
@freddking4389
@freddking4389 3 жыл бұрын
Beau, that was a great series of videos. I have been going nuts waiting for final part. Glad you made it without incident. Appreciate ya.
@wl841
@wl841 3 жыл бұрын
Think about the start distance and where the phone finally end up by the mine shaft. The mine shaft is a long ways away from the vehicle start point. The end point of the canyon is a long ways from the vehicle where he started. At some point he made the video, he said he has been there many times in the past, he walked to the mine shaft set the phone down and moved on with his life.
@sherrizahand
@sherrizahand 3 жыл бұрын
Your beer burps probably shook a few boulders loose. I absolutely love going on adventures with you. I feel like I’m with you but my legs never get any stronger. Keep educating us Mr. Chigg. You’re the best and my favorite teacher of all things nature.
@GeoffreyHuber
@GeoffreyHuber 3 жыл бұрын
I think the M cave is a figment of his depression. He said he was afraid to go inside etc. I think he was afraid of killing himself inside due to his depression. His M cave is just some cave or place he decided to kill himself.
@suesmith9202
@suesmith9202 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you
@zantar2482
@zantar2482 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I had a friend do something very similar. He left his phone at home and grabbed the gun, went to a Cardinals game, drove 400 something miles to Mississippi and left us. He used cash the whole way except one credit transaction at a gas by where he was.
@zantar2482
@zantar2482 3 жыл бұрын
@@redrider7730 Yeah. I read the original post. You can look her up Sayron Pilgrim youtube channel... I think.. something like that. She has like a remember video where she made that original post.
@johntyson
@johntyson 3 жыл бұрын
I think he mentioned his cold beer waiting for him in his truck a few times to manufacture doubt in his intent to kill himself. He knew where he was going was remote and he wasn’t likely to be found. I think he liked knowing that.
@zantar2482
@zantar2482 3 жыл бұрын
I also want to mention that we all need to bring attention to mental health. We need to be more open and help people out, even when we think they are doing better. We all have to do better to help.
@jkaz7509
@jkaz7509 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chigger for taking us with you. It sounds like it was a brutal hike dude, well done! I am wondering if a cave may have collpased on Kenny, or that was a covered up cave found by Libera'sean Kenny had seen... I hope we find Kenny in my lifetime. All the best!
@marthamitchell9452
@marthamitchell9452 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched that video last night after seeing the first two. His theory is a little out there of the government/military covering up the entrance although you can definitely see the holes leading somewhere. I would think they would have just collapsed the entrance thoroughly and left it at that, especially if he was inside at the time. If anyone eventually found it and found him his death could be blamed on a cave in. As long as they didn’t shoot him of course. I’m also not sure about his analysis of the rocks not belonging as you can see lots of areas where the ground has folded and buckled and the layers no longer match up. Need to send a scope camera into those holes and see what’s behind the outside layer.
@laneywag
@laneywag 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking us with you. I prayed for your safely esp. when it looked like big cat prints in dirt.
@OutdoorsygalO
@OutdoorsygalO 3 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@EvgeniyaJZ
@EvgeniyaJZ 3 жыл бұрын
Yea he should look into the caves from afar before going in. Wouldn't want him to stumble on a big cat
@chrissyart7984
@chrissyart7984 5 ай бұрын
Prt3, I feel privileged to Be watching your Videos, keep the Laughter going , God Bless you, Very Interesting Videos👍, kudos to you, Stay Safe 🙏🕊
@zekesgirl100
@zekesgirl100 3 жыл бұрын
The desert is so beautiful if you just open your eyes.
@julzmgrforll7278
@julzmgrforll7278 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Nothing boring about the desert! Thanks for showing us your adventure and getting tired so i don't have to.
@SnickersEatsCookies
@SnickersEatsCookies 3 жыл бұрын
So many interesting creatures
@曾志海-c4z
@曾志海-c4z 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnickersEatsCookies like what?
@trainman1209
@trainman1209 2 жыл бұрын
Your phone comparison to the bighorn sheep hilltop was terrific! You gotta be close. Great job, Aquachigger.
@rockhunter6260
@rockhunter6260 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you Chigg, I hope Kenny didn’t disappear because of his story telling that he couldn’t prove when he was called out on it.👍🏻
@HYEpower
@HYEpower 3 жыл бұрын
Actually editions think the video I saw was Liberian Sean. Who was looking for mcave then went nuts into conspiracy
@OnTheRiver66
@OnTheRiver66 3 жыл бұрын
I loved these videos. No one could have done a better search given the clues he left. Thank you for sharing!
@ashmaybe9634
@ashmaybe9634 3 жыл бұрын
If his story about the M cave is real and correct, I suspect he found something he shouldn't have and by the time he went back it had been covered over somehow. Loved these videos regardless, many thanks for taking us on a beautiful, if brutal-for-you, hike. Stunning mountains and formations. Stay safe Chig :)
@anacortinas6034
@anacortinas6034 2 жыл бұрын
Probably true the government known to cover up a lot of stuff
@playboiij9381
@playboiij9381 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but it still wouldn’t explain how he went missing if the cave was already covered up I think he just got really depressed trying to find it or I don’t know
@Beartracks777
@Beartracks777 3 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff Mqn. I watched alot of your Arizona trips Sierra Ancha ..Chiricahuas.. skeleton cave.. i was born qn raised in Arizona i no this country .. i lived past 30 years on the mountain most of it off grid on 20 acres i used to own among the Anasazi ruins north of Snowflake Arizona. I developed neuropathy in feet n legs from diabetes an cant go hiking like i used to. Damn near lost my leg from tiny wound on toe got infected. I love to see tht Arizona back country watching your videos . Thanks for sharing.. Kennys story has me intrigued aswell . Nevada has some beautiful desert country.
@chuckcross3985
@chuckcross3985 3 жыл бұрын
He mentioned that he felt like it or himself was vibrating. I have always wondered if maybe his 6th sense was telling him there was an animal or something in that cave. And that was why he chose not to go into it. He also mentioned that he was not going to go back into without some kind of weapon.
@MapTheMissing
@MapTheMissing 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody did a really in depth video on him, going through his liked videos and stuff. He was watching weird "awakening" stuff that mentioned vibrations. It sounds like he got it from that... I dont think the m cave existed.
@sarahstrong7174
@sarahstrong7174 2 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that sometimes when I am very anxious I feel like I am vibrating. Maybe Kenny felt something like that?
@chuckcross3985
@chuckcross3985 2 жыл бұрын
@@sarahstrong7174 I know exactly what you mean as I have felt that myself. Merry Christmas to you.
@leesurridge2947
@leesurridge2947 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful trilogy here! An interest in Kenny Veach's disappearance bought me here, but I wouldn't mind seeing your other videos. Also, as a Brit, I cannot even imagine what it must be like to have to consider the possibility of running into mountain lions. That would make me extremely nervous 😅
@melanierapp537
@melanierapp537 3 жыл бұрын
Have u watched Sean Libres(spelling )videos he searched for M cave too and had a good idea...he was pretty positive someone blocked the entrance ..u should watch his
@johnmckay1961
@johnmckay1961 Жыл бұрын
Nice videos, you can see how somebody could easily get themselves into trouble hiking out there if they weren't being careful (or even if they were!)
@Bluetongue.
@Bluetongue. 3 жыл бұрын
Im sure theres a video on youtube of a guy that found the M cave but it was caved in, he did a side by side of the footage from kennys footage to the caved in one and everything matched up except that the cave was basically gone due to a cave in.
@goose33
@goose33 3 жыл бұрын
It wasnt a "cave in" lol Shit was literally cemented in
@Anna-xj7uh
@Anna-xj7uh 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know the name of the video!! I’d like to watch it??:)
@PoeLemic
@PoeLemic 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are doing the research. Someone really needed to look into this and solve this mystery.
@Iukaz
@Iukaz 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great journey to try and uncover a little bit more about this mystery. But I do think he was lying about there being an actual 'M' cave. His girlfriend said his phone was left by that one open cave in his video that he even said looked like you could die just by falling down the entrance. I am assuming he went deep down into that initial cave and found a place to 'rest' so to speak. Maybe there should be more detailed expeditions through that cave itself. Since that is the last 'known' place he was with his phone... Still sad that he is still missing, but at this point its pretty much confirmed he is dead.
@susanmarkleyschmitt1314
@susanmarkleyschmitt1314 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this series of “Kenny”. Hope there will be more of these type of series. But love everything you do. Thank you.
@allanwilkerson6426
@allanwilkerson6426 3 жыл бұрын
I think Kenny left his phone so that someone would find it. It was a symbolic move of disconnecting with the world, i.e., people, situations, and the like. His old life ended there...his new life started just a few steps beyond there. He's alive and well somewhere. He doesn't want to be found. He said nobody would find him. He made an air tight plan and went on to live it. I've watched his video...he doesn't talk and sound depressed. He sounded relatively happy IMO. A lot of his words were symbolic....not literal.
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 3 жыл бұрын
no such thing occured.
@ljb8157
@ljb8157 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 you keep saying that... but without evidence or reason. At least give us a reason you think so
@jackhoff3910
@jackhoff3910 3 жыл бұрын
He said nobody would find him and he was correct. The desert is massive and desolate and there are millions of places to hide a body. And for someone smart like Kenny who did not want anybody to know he committed suicide, he could have wedged himself into a rock crevice somewhere else and shot himself. The myth of the M-Cave was a ruse to throw people off the notion that he committed suicide. There are two kinds of people who commit suicide: ones who are only halfway serious looking for attention and ones who genuinely crave to end their existence. Kenny was smart, he knew that terrain well, and if he did not want his body to be found you can bet your ass his body will not be found for at least 100 years or until the area he died in gets urbanized.
@sicooper4230
@sicooper4230 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackhoff3910 Correct.His girlfriend outlined in the comments of his upload that he suffered from severe depression.His money was running out,he found it difficult to connect with finding a job and his own father took his life when Kenny was in his twenties.The area is huge.He found a place.
@matthewgarza1055
@matthewgarza1055 3 жыл бұрын
But one thing is he’s in a desert he would easily do you hydrated hungry yes he probably had stuff in his backpack but that wouldn’t last long definitely last for two days trust me I don’t know this usually when you are in a desert you tend to have like a water drinking problem and then you’re just going to get more hungry the more you walk that back with only be able to carry enough food and water for two days and honestly that is true he did say no one was going to find him but that doesn’t mean he’s alive honestly why would he just abandoned everything he loved his wife his family there’s no explanation really
@kingstaff4
@kingstaff4 3 жыл бұрын
Your footage is the best I’ve seen so far. Thank you
@WizzardofOdds
@WizzardofOdds 3 жыл бұрын
In your part 2 video at 1:07 you are looking at Kenny's video around the 15:39 mark, Kenny is describing the area is just like that and he pans past some rocks that are discolored and they are wedged into a crevice and next to where they are wedged to the left is a spot where it appears rocks have been removed or fallen away from the darker rocks but there are no rocks in front of the lighter colored area. If the rock face had fallen away to reveal the lighter rock then where is the rock that fell away unless it was used to block the entrance to a cave. Some guy named Sean did several videos looking for Kenny, he also did one called the M Cave cover up. It's a little overboard but I think it has merit about the cave being blocked. You have to go to about the middle to where he is at the spot he believes is the M Cave.
@rachaelleann9847
@rachaelleann9847 3 жыл бұрын
Funny u mentioned that o wondered that to. Where the chuck of rock go then. Cause i disnt see it. Unless over the yrs just broke up into small pieces and its intresrinf thoery for sure.
@GC_420
@GC_420 3 жыл бұрын
There is no mysterious M cave.
@johndu4864
@johndu4864 2 жыл бұрын
Your video reminded me of my time in the Panamint's and Death Valley! Long hours of isolation wandering through the desert and mountains. I spent 25 yrs in that area. My hiking days are over now, got old! Water wise I worked off army belt and suspenders. Never cared much for back packs! I did use a messenger bag thrown over head and shoulder for those overnighters! I'd have a liter of water on each side and a 1/2 gallon in the pouch on the belt back! I'd have carrot sticks in one of the bottles. Gave some flavor to the water and something to nibble on. A tea bag was also used when the heat of the day had warmed the water. Including water my set up was 40lbs I'm surprised, you without a walking stick!? I know they can come in handy in a verity of situations. Even helps as one walks, you'd be surprised! Peace Bro, thanks for the memories!!!
@RyeOnHam
@RyeOnHam 3 жыл бұрын
For as much as he was into showmanship, Kenny made the first video to set up his suicide or faked disappearance. He set his phone down so, but they searched that area thoroughly. He didn't take a camera to document anything. This was intended to be his final journey and intended to be a mystery. His last hurrah. Maybe the shark tank should have bought one of his dubious 'inventions'.
@sicooper4230
@sicooper4230 3 жыл бұрын
His girlfriend stated in the comments on his last video that he suffered from severe depression.His father had commited suicide when Kenny was in his twenties and it affected him badly.The guy had had enough sadly.
@chriswertz1438
@chriswertz1438 2 жыл бұрын
Tremendous effort for a good cause, and thank you for your honesty, its refreshing.
@Cutter-jx3xj
@Cutter-jx3xj 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome adventure. I think there's a lot of things that won't ever be answered and I think that is exactly how Kenny wanted it.
@jakemason9436
@jakemason9436 3 жыл бұрын
Love your camping trips sir. I agree with your conclusion. The M cave is just that...a story. Thanks.
@dustydesert1674
@dustydesert1674 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about dying way out in the desert is that coyotes and mountain lions consume the body, then the bones get dragged around and flash floods move them around. If the body isn’t found soon after death it can be almost impossible to find later. Unfortunately there are a lot of disappearances in the desert and even just an injury or lack of water can become fatal rather quickly. You can see from this video how isolated from any help you would be. There’s no cell phone signal either sometimes.
@analyticalhabitrails9857
@analyticalhabitrails9857 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why he went there so no man can ever find him.
@emmanuelperez9490
@emmanuelperez9490 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much sir. This was definitively a challenge in so many ways.
@sourcreamking
@sourcreamking 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: The "M-cave" is only visible on overcast Tuesdays, that's when the alien cloaking device is on it's weakest.
@jayneneewing2369
@jayneneewing2369 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@rockygaming1380
@rockygaming1380 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@matthewgarza1055
@matthewgarza1055 3 жыл бұрын
Guys don’t laugh this could be true aliens could be real I don’t know if you heard or not the government recently found a UFO like a month ago and they’re experimenting on it now so John you could be right
@Samphire2
@Samphire2 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this! Well done on making a 10 hour hike look easy, i sure wouldnt have made it. I hadn't heard of the M cave before this so i am now off to look it up and maybe see the video you had on your phone. It has got me wondering if there is a cave somewhere but he didnt really want to let on where because the route he took seems a little odd like you said.
@jefcla1172
@jefcla1172 3 жыл бұрын
Kennys route is not as odd as chigger says. Coming from the other directions is not that easy. Picture canyon gains elevation from west going east so instead of coming down the canyon, you are climbing the whole time. Also, there is no trailhead close, you have to either park on Joe May rd, where chigger parked, or you have to park on Cow Camp rd to the north. Either way, it is a long hike just to get to Picture canyon on the desert. Or you can park on Cow Camp at Cow Corral and climb into the mountains and head south like Sean did once. Look at the route maps in my channel.
@Samphire2
@Samphire2 3 жыл бұрын
@@jefcla1172 Thanks jef!
@masterpuppetz
@masterpuppetz 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent series Chigg!
@DallasXFV
@DallasXFV 3 жыл бұрын
Wow he is really committed to this.
@truthistreason4292
@truthistreason4292 3 жыл бұрын
holy crap. glad to see you on the case.
@slimdawgwoof
@slimdawgwoof 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty wild country to be solo hiking. Please consider a hiking buddy. All the best, be safe.
@nebraskanassassin6058
@nebraskanassassin6058 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Nuttall was standing on top of Kenny at the bottom of that cave that was collapsed, that's why he left the phone on its front porch. But here's the kicker, Kenny buried himself on purpose
@ethandubray9394
@ethandubray9394 3 жыл бұрын
Wdym can you explain to me
@jackhoff3910
@jackhoff3910 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethandubray9394 I think he means that Kenny climbed down the wooden ladders in that vertical shaft, dug a hole at the bottom of the mine in the loose dirt, climbed inside the hole he created and reached around the rim to pull the dirt back over his entire body, and along with him was a sidearm pointed at his own head and he held his breath until he pulled the last bit of dirt into the hole with him then shot himself before he suffocated while buried. It sounds far fetched, but sometimes the far fetched is actually the truth.
@nebraskanassassin6058
@nebraskanassassin6058 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly he pointed the direction where he is at with the phone being left by the entrance of the mine. And he was suffering from depression and I think some significant pain in his legs. And what better way to add mystery to legend than a mysterious cave and and a dissapearence which results in a cult following
@jackhoff3910
@jackhoff3910 3 жыл бұрын
​@@nebraskanassassin6058 It's horribly sad if this is actually what happened. I wish it's not true, but I believe it is. Kenny killed himself and he did not want anybody to know it and never wanted anybody to find his body to prove it.
@mikebell8012
@mikebell8012 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that the mine shaft was searched, if so I think his body would have been found if that is what he did.
@vetnumb1218
@vetnumb1218 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you are safe. Be careful brother. Thanks for the work.
@craigs831
@craigs831 3 жыл бұрын
Basically following directions from a guy who followed his own directions and couldn't find it. Doomed from the start, imo. Hopefully one day this man's family and friends will find out his fate.
@oregonrain4249
@oregonrain4249 3 жыл бұрын
It is the Adventure that is important and memorial, and makes us feel alive. 🥾🥾 hike on Brother. 👍
@f.k.burnham8491
@f.k.burnham8491 3 жыл бұрын
If he was in the canyon and got caught in a flash flood, it is very possible he could have been knocked off his feet and shoved up under an overhanging rock, drowned there, and the gravel was washed over him. Or he could be alive someplace else and just made it look like he was dead.
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 3 жыл бұрын
but it didnt happen which is honest mistake you simply dont know the details of the case or the area as we do.
@patrickconroy9535
@patrickconroy9535 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 o my God you are at it again will you just let people think what they think with out you butting in
@sarahstrong7174
@sarahstrong7174 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 So which particular features of the area or case did you mean, in particular? Please tell us more. I am intrigued.
@FairyFrequency
@FairyFrequency 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic hike! It really is a breathtaking location. The geology is fascinating. Thank you for taking us along ♡
@jakeloynd5122
@jakeloynd5122 3 жыл бұрын
Someone else did a video looking for it two years ago I think and found what looked like a cave entrance covered up by rocks
@SaltyNationalist
@SaltyNationalist 3 жыл бұрын
You are probably thinking of Liberia Sean.. Good guy.. I saw that video as well.. And yes, it may well be covered over..
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 3 жыл бұрын
that was sean--he was mistaken no mcave got covered up
@patrickconroy9535
@patrickconroy9535 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 you think you know it all but you don't
@SaltyNationalist
@SaltyNationalist 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 I never said it was the M cave.. Just that it did kinda look like a cave at one point that was covered up with different stones..
@thetrillwillshow7978
@thetrillwillshow7978 3 жыл бұрын
Was worried for a sec, glad your kickin buddy.
@rickfletcher5053
@rickfletcher5053 3 жыл бұрын
His girlfriend said he was suicidal and said if he did it no one would ever find him. Its on another youtube channel backtracking Kennys path.
@aserta
@aserta 3 жыл бұрын
That guy was innit just so he can make money off people's backs, so we don't talk about him. He used a dead man to grift, that's the lowest of the low.
@tinytattoomike7943
@tinytattoomike7943 3 жыл бұрын
Look up Glowler bear one of Kenny’s failed inventions
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 3 жыл бұрын
he died on his next hike where he went up above. no suicide took place. "girlfriend" is sincere and great person but she is mistaken.
@kevio6868
@kevio6868 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 yeah likely...people die everday
@ljb8157
@ljb8157 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaysilverheals4445 what makes you say that?
@GO-xs8pj
@GO-xs8pj 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the way you did this series. It was very interesting. If you look at missing person cases in NAMUS, there are many cases where people go hiking alone an never return. Some, have indicated suicidal ideations and some are likely accidents or the people got lost. Wild places are unpredictable and you can get into trouble that can kill you.
@marthamitchell9452
@marthamitchell9452 3 жыл бұрын
It’s incredibly easy to walk off and never be found in wilderness areas. My husband’s family had a member do that very thing years ago and no trace was ever found and that was what was intended.
@67volksrodder
@67volksrodder Ай бұрын
Great video. Really enjoyed watching
@davestelling
@davestelling 3 жыл бұрын
I think Chigg could take us to Wegman's to get groceries and it would be an interesting episode worthy of many thousands of views...
@rachaelleann9847
@rachaelleann9847 3 жыл бұрын
Lol right his voice is so calming and he just knows so much abour everything wnd he can sure tell a story
@heidiappe
@heidiappe 3 жыл бұрын
I was saying just that the other day.
@alijdapeperkamp5257
@alijdapeperkamp5257 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful area. Thank you.
@leannkennedy6568
@leannkennedy6568 3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if the "M" cave is near a rock that looks like "M".
@StonedustandStardust
@StonedustandStardust 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could explore all those caves! I love hiking in the canyons and washes.
@joshawsomeness
@joshawsomeness 3 жыл бұрын
9:45 there’s a m shaped cave above his head I personally believed the cave was higher up than Kenny though if you ever go back I suggested taking a look at that cave
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