AR Wing Pro - 6S Rocket or 4S Super Cruiser

Got some calmer weather so took the AR Wing Pro out to put it through its paces with a 2200mah 6S 7x6 prop and a 5200mah 4S with 9x5 prop.
I wanted to see if this plane was suited to being a fast Acro fun machine like the AR 900 or more of a long range super cruiser.
6S was fun but I think I will use this plane for more of a long range cruiser as it performed brilliantly on 4S and has very good efficiency potential I think.
For the 6S part of the video I used Dashware in conjunction with my iNav BlackBox log to add the OSD, sadly I could not do it with the 4S flight for some reason as the file would not read into Dashware.
You can get Dashware for free here: www.dashware.net/
Painless 360 has done a couple of Dashware videos that really helped me to understand how it works I link to them below:
• DashWare and INAV setu...
• Intro to editing Dashw...
If you want any of my mod STL's you can get them here: www.thingiverse.com/bluefishu...
Here are links to various parts of the video as its pretty long.
00:00 Intro and summary of mods
02:56 6S 7x6 Prop launch
04:47 6S Cruise
05:42 6S Speed run
06:12 6S Roll (Acro)
07:22 6S Fast and low through gap
07:43 6S Manual mode
08:42 6S Landing
08:55 4S 9x5 Prop launch
10:13 4S Slow fly by
10:50 4S Cruise out
13:12 4S Cruise home from 6.5 km out (RTH)
14:56 4S Slow LOS fly by
15:31 4S Low and Slow LOS fly by's
18:23 4S Speed run
19:26 4S Inverted flight
20:14 4S Flying in my back yard
21:24 4S LOS landing
23:04 Summing up my thoughts on the AR Pro
My Spec
Sonicmodell AR Wing Pro
Matek F405 Wing FC running iNav 2.6
HGLRC M8N Micro GPS
Emax ES08MD II 13g Digital Servo With Metal Gears
T-Motor AT 75A ESC (2-6S)
Brotherhobby Reunion 2318 1250KV Motor
APC 7x6 Prop on Infinity 2200mah 6S lipo
Aeronaut Cam Carbon Lite 9x5 on Turnigy 5200mah 4S lipo
DJI FPV System Air Unit & Cam
TBS Crossfire Nano RX
TBS Stock Crossfire Antenna
JHE42B 110DBI Finder Buzzer
DJI FPV System Goggles with stock antennas
Some HD footage stabilized with Reelstady Go. If you want to see some raw footage click here: • AR Pro 6S and 4S Fligh...
If you want to get good information and help with building and flying Sonicmodell planes the / sonicmodell.fpv.planes FB Group is fantastic
For help with iNav and all things fixed wing, there is a great bunch of guys on the iNav Fixed Wing FB Group
/ inavfixedwing

[@Davyorr]

Great video Glenn. Served as a nice fix for me in this lockdown. Beautiful conditions and location for flying as well.

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks Davy first flight in ages I was going stir crazy locked in the house. I am lucky to have that flying field literally on my doorstep.

[@pangit9999]

Amazing skies, what a beautiful afternoon

[@bluefish3607]

Yes I feel so grateful to be able to enjoy such beautiful surroundings.

[@paraiskaparaiskai4762]

Speed impressed me so much !

[@bluefish3607]

I am building a new high speed version watch out for future videos 😀

[@beefybeef1326]

Brilliant plane and nice footage!. That OSD is nice too

[@user-oj6kw1vc3l]

what type of OSD uses there?

[@taggerung890]

@@user-oj6kw1vc3l I think it’s a dashware overlay and not an actual osd

[@user-oj6kw1vc3l]

@@taggerung890 yeah, you are right

[@kool-k-kel]

Lovely job on dashware. 👍

[@etops.flight]

Nice build, 4S super cruise looks the ticket! 💪🏻

[@mickelson8332]

Yet again Glenn another great video. I love your true British humour mate, your delivery is excellent. I too have been exercising my thumbs up and down a hill near by👍. My long awaited Dart XLe is ready to maiden at last, hopefully within the next week or two. Will let you know how she goes, have the Kopilot installed, Cheers, Mick.

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Mick glad you enjoyed it Since that flight we have gone into deep freeze but hopefully I can get out next weekend. Good luck with the maiden, let me know how it goes. I got the Dart XLE version 2 to build so looking forward to that. I love the XL really cracking Wing I am sure you will love it. 👍

[@Swimfinz]

Nice video, thank you for posting! My Ar Wing PRO SonicModell just arrived today!

[@bluefish3607]

Enjoy it

[@andrewjamez]

Boy ar 4:40 you were lucky to make it between those trees... Awsome vids. Keep em coming :)

[@bluefish3607]

Thats my local flying spot outside my house so I know it pretty well to fly those gaps, mind you I have crashed there a few times in the past :-) Glad you enjoyed the vid

[@InfrastructuraRomania]

Awesome flight and footage! Greetings from Bucharest Romania!!

[@Caroline_Tyler]

The wing flies great!!!

[@MarcFPV]

Awesome Video Glenn, as always. Really looking forward to test that Dashwarestuff for myself. Way better than using a DVR overlay. Grat work and beautiful build. Can't wait to fly together with you again! :)

[@bluefish3607]

With your bad influence encouraging me to buy more planes I am going to need a truck to bring them all to Germany next visit :-)

[@robzFPV000]

I just subscribed . Glad I came across your video. Birds eye view was awesome. The plane ✈ is vary cool. Looking foreword to seeing more of your flights.

[@bluefish3607]

Thank you Robert I did have a brilliant afternoon. Hopefully we will get another break in the UK winter weather soon.

[@jhughes2286]

I'm building my first wing, an AR Pro, and I'm totally blown away by your wing and the engineering that you built into it, the 3D printing is amazing in quadcopters we really only use 3D printing for antenna mounting or camera mounting maybe skid pads for the motors, otherwise the options get boring I didn't think of so many things that you could do with 3D printing on a wing!

[@bluefish3607]

3D printing is a really useful tool for modding wings and designing new components for sure.

[@davidallen6918]

Just waiting for the kit to arrive in the post. Thanks for the awesome review. Looks like a 4S build it is then 😉

[@bluefish3607]

Your going to love it Dave!

[@tdogrc]

Great flight 👍

[@mickmolloy5964]

Great video, I love the dash ware setup thanks for sharing.

[@bluefish3607]

I am pretty pleased with the Dashware effect for DJI footage, glad you enjoyed it, Happy Flying

[@HolaACchillin]

Very nice flight!

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you liked it.

[@HolaACchillin]

@@bluefish3607 I just flew an rc plane for the first time last week and now I’m hooked lol. I want to build or buy something similar to what your flying. I like the dji hud you showed in your latest video. Good stuff, keep up the great work!

[@PWOODHAMS]

Nice piloting. Enjoyed the video.

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you enjoyed it, had a lot of fun that day.

[@maxun1]

Just beautiful

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you like it, I had a great day and really enjoyed myself. Happy flying

[@ze2004]

nice landing

[@matejbludsky8410]

that’s smooth as butter !!!!!!

[@scottyh72]

The footage is stabilized. This wing wiggles.

[@bluefish3607]

It definitely does but not sure its as bad as the AR900 in windy conditions.

[@TheTurbinator]

@@scottyh72 do you have any recommendations for a good wing to get for long range FPV that has absolutely no wiggling. I hate how it looks in the live feed, in reviews when it wiggles all over the place like a chicken without a head.

[@roadstar499]

Its nice you filmed from ground also..i myself enjoy only line of site flying..i never had a wing ..Bg has sonic 900 kit on sale...thanks for sharing .

[@bluefish3607]

Sorry for the late reply I was abroad and then had family here for the Christmas holidays. I joined my local flying club a couple of years ago and also enjoy LOS flying and have an EDF jet and a few planes for that. I started with the AR Wing 900 and it is a great wing.

[@SILVIOFRANCO1]

Subscribed from Brazil. Awesome flights

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you enjoy them Silvio the next video is a flight down the beach just like Rio 😀

[@SILVIOFRANCO1]

I watched this vid several times. Super cool. Let's fly mine now. Just a question. What is the DJI vtx power you used in these flights? Thanks, man and have a good beer.

[@bluefish3607]

@@SILVIOFRANCO1 I run at 1200mw when I push out beyond 2.5 km and 700 for close proximity. But with the air unit in the side pod it never gets too hot with the airflow.

[@per3510]

Thank you!

[@AerialWaviator]

LANDED! The flight on 4s seemed so much more pleasant. Noticed it allowed flying down between the trees, vs blasting along above treetops on 6s. Suggests you had more confidence of handling on 4s. That stability inverted was superb. Don't think you mentinoed amp draw for inverted cruise? Could be fun to test on a turbulent day, as might provide more stabilized video. (an excuse to exercise you thumbs some more ;)

[@bluefish3607]

I definitely was more in my comfort zone on 4S as I have been flying my Dart XL a lot recently with almost the same powertrain and prop. I think was concentrating so much when inverted I didn't even read the OSD in the goggles :-) We have snow for the next few days so hopefully I can get out after and do my first flight over a white landscape and get those thumbs into shape.

[@k4x4map46]

nice

[@jeffmcclain]

Great video! Love how polished that wing looks. Building a Skywalker X8 2122mm. I have not found where the DJI O3 HD air unit stores the logs at...I may just need to figure out how to pull in the blackbox data from FC for dashware, since iNav 6.1.1 still doesn't support native DJI HD O3 like BF4.4 does. :(

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Jeff, There is no usable data available from the O3 air unit that is usable in Dashware as far as I am aware. When I used Dashware I took the data from the inav blackbox. I used this tutorial to guide me through the process: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnKokoWkoLZsoac You can use the inav BFCOMPAT mode in inav 6.1.1 to get an OSD with O3, its not amazing as it does not support all of the fonts but I have been using it very successfully and you dont need to mess around with Dashware. See an example in one of my latest videos, goto 3:22 to see some O3 / Goggles 2 DVR OSD footage. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWm0fIyoqpuFl80 Best wishes for the X8 build that will be a beast, I fancy building one of those one day, looks like a great plane.

[@npcfpv9542]

Sub'd. Thanks for the great video!

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you liked it, Happy Flying

[@REDROBRCFPV]

I love my Ar pro too, it just glides for so long when I’m trying to come in for a landing. Very important to excersize my thumbs also lol .How did get the osd element to look like that?

[@bluefish3607]

Yes the glide ability is amazing I always like that on a plane as it helps me with my poor landing skills. The OSD is using Dashware I put some links in the video description, that was my fist attempt but it looks good and I will spend some more time on it to get it refined. I may even do a video guide as most of my content is reviews of my builds and flying so that might make a fun change and new experience for me.

[@E-sk8Fr]

congrats man for sharing this awesome video. I'm using 6S packs on my 7" quad and was thinking to buy the PNP kit .. but it's on 4S... I could still use some 4S packs but as I can get the PNP cheap... would you recommend going 4S and tell that the PNP version works perfectly out of the box and would not require any improvement?

[@bluefish3607]

I fly the AR Pro on 4S and prefer it over 6S. The standard kit will fly great on 4S. You will love it!

[@upperechelon3456]

Excellent flying video. Could you share your [CLI] setup.

[@PaulSokolov]

Thanks for great video. You have a lot of experience with AR WING PRO. Which is the best Motor and prop for 6S packs? Thanks for your help

[@burtpanzer]

Nice piloting... and at 7:30 it almost looks as if you hit a fence post dead on at 100 mph, but I guess it's just the editing. =D

[@bluefish3607]

If I hit that post there would not be much left, that's one of my favourite gaps to fly. With the edit I tried to get all perspectives of the flypast both FPV and line of sight.

[@thilde007]

@@bluefish3607​​⁠I hit a ~1 inch steel post going close to 100mph with my AR Pro. It basically just sliced one of the wings in half and was easy enough to repair. If I hit dead on it would have definitely been a complete lost.

[@bluefish3607]

@@thilde007 Ouch, that was a lucky escape. I have have quite a few crashes and destroyed a few wings over the years. Its part of the risk if you fly fast FPV and low level 😁

[@dagobb]

That osd overlay looks great! Do you use DJI osd files for osd or are u using iNav blackbox?

[@bluefish3607]

inav blackbox and dashware www.dashware.org

[@captainkangaroo8309]

I'm just setting up my AR Wing Pro and just wondered how you managed to fit the Turnigy battery inside the bay as the specs are 143mm long and the bay width is only about 138?

[@user-otzlixr]

3:31 You said that is DJI? I love the look of your OSD. Im trying to learn how to set up my OSD in Inav, but i can’t figure out how to preview it (other than flying a plane) which isnt possible now. Im vey new to all this stuff :)

[@bluefish3607]

Not sure what you mean but the OSD on that video was added after the flight and not with inav. You can preview your OSD with your goggles or an LCD monitor dependant upon having HD such as DJI or Walksnail or Analogue.

[@user-otzlixr]

@@bluefish3607 thanks, that clears it up. I wish OSD looked like you have it (post flight). It’s so clean!

[@Acosta_RC]

great footage! where can I get the STL you show about 1:43? The one that goes in the battery compartment and is attached to the printed camera mount?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi, glad you enjoyed it, I forgot to put the CG pod on Thingiverse but you can get it from here drive.google.com/file/d/1Y7J_yenV4V6VO78BEN4LmofC3xswCjYm/view?usp=sharing

[@eitosj]

Your video looks really stable! Did you used any stabilizing software? Brilliant flight!

[@eitosj]

Ok I figured it out. RSGo

[@bluefish3607]

@@eitosj Yes stabilized with Reelsteady GO then OSD added with dashware.

[@npmullins]

A very impressive air frame, did notice some jello in your gopro footage on both setups, but more obvious on the 6s. Have you balanced the props?

[@bluefish3607]

Props are fine I think not had any chance to do any serious tuning that was my first flight after windy maiden have some work to do yet to get it where I want it to be. Hopefully some reasonable weather soon to get on with refining the tune and setup.

[@jhughes2286]

@@bluefish3607 Jello is caused by high frequency vibration tuning is not going to help that that's from the motor can't get rid of it best thing you can do is balance the prop or put some sort of soft motor mounting, or just run it on 4s like it was intended which is what you're doing now.

[@vektr6278]

Very nice review. Rsg works well with gopro session on wings? Is it required to soft mount? How do you overlay all those OSD informations on the HD. Looks really clean!

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. For the OSD I used the blackbox data from the FC and processed it with Dashware. Here is a video that shows how to do it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnKokoWkoLZsoac You can get Dashware free from here: www.dashware.net/ The gopro session works well in the mount I designed for the AR Pro and it is not soft mounted. Best to film in 2.7K 60fps 4:3 then process with Reelsteady Go. I have now designed a mount for the Hero 6 which works even better, I used that setup in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZDTeJptqtB_ha8 I hope that helps

[@vektr6278]

@@bluefish3607 Indeed it helped. Thank you!

[@traxxi2003]

Hello there!! Did you use the GoPro onboard video? How do you get the video to be so smooth?

[@bluefish3607]

I use Reelsteady Go stabilisation

[@egtreadway4232]

I have a 9050 prop on order for my ar wing pro, please explain difference with this prop and the 8050 or 8060? Also difference you have with the 9050 on the 1400kv motor vs the 1250kv? Do you see much difference in cruse speed amp draw with these setups. Thanks for all your videos.

[@bluefish3607]

Sorry for late reply I had an isssue with my KZbin comments coming thru, all sorted now thankfully. With the 8x6 on 1400kv I get a little more acceleration and better climb rate and it is slightly faster top end than the 9x5 on 1250Kv. I am not the best person to ask about cruise speed as I generally fly my AR Pro proximity for fun and not long range. The AR Pro can be configured for really whatever you want a super efficient long range cruiser or just a fun plane like I tend to fly it.

[@user-gp4xd7xc5t]

I'm going to take a good look. I'm going to buy a pnp. What specifications should I change the motor and propeller to when using 6 cells?

[@bluefish3607]

I am not sure best combo for 6S I only tested it in that video and I decided I liked the plane better with a 4S setup. I run a Sunnysky 2216 1400kv MkIII blue motor with APC 8x4.5 prop with CNHL 5000 mah 70c 4S lipo and it performs great for my style of flying.

[@TheTurbinator]

What sound pack are you using for your OpenTX? It's really calm and not at all irritating or artificial.

[@bluefish3607]

Hi, I am using the Amber sound pack.

[@peterpaul100]

wonderful videos to watch, certainly added value by the dashware. I fly the same Matek F405, but it doesn't have a black box. From which hardware-item do you get the telemetry data for dashware? I'm very curious to try it out myself

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Peter I am unsure what you mean about F405 Wing not having Blackbox. You have the version with the micro SD card right? So you get the telemetry for dashware from the iNav blackbox recorder that stores the data on the SD card. I used this video to learn how to do it which migfht help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnKokoWkoLZsoac

[@peterpaul100]

@@bluefish3607 how could I have overlooked that? I knew that the F405 does not have a storage chip, but of course you can use the SD card for that. "Back to the drawing board", thanks for pointing this out to me!

[@bluefish3607]

@@peterpaul100 Your welcome, its all a learning curve 😀

[@Chrismarquez7]

What camera setup is this that shows detailed heads up display showing the speed, direction and altitude specs??

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Chris the OSD is added after the flight from iNav Blackbox data using Dashware free software.

[@robertpawlusiak]

I have one with the Radix Flight Controller I put the Auto Launch with ( RTH ). return to home on Inav Running 7000 mah Lithium Polymer Batteries more for long range

[@bluefish3607]

Sounds great Robert this is definitely a very capable long range plane. With that battery and an efficient setup you should be able to get out 15-20K easily.

[@ndcapper]

Beautiful day. I like flying my ar pro on 4s. 5000 cnhl with session on the nose. I also have the ar 900 with AirB motor and basically your speed setup for going crazy. I love the ar900 even with the AirB it can be very efficient. I just never have calm days like this video... So I ride the winds :)

[@bluefish3607]

Yes I think the AR Pro is really well balanced on 4S in my opinion and I am building a 6S Mini Drak for the crazy stuff that will be featured in future videos. I have the Airb on my AR900 but did not have much success with it on 6S blew 2 ESC's and an F405 FC but I will probably have another go with it and see if I can overcome that. What ESC and FC you running in your AR 900? btw that was an unusual day its always pretty windy here too!

[@ndcapper]

@@bluefish3607 I used the performance setup on the inav fixed wing site. ESC: Holybro Tekko32 F3 65A and FC: Matek F411 Wing. Sounds like the ESC might be lacking for this build huh. I have some giant 50v caps and a FETTech spike absorber I could put in. I thought about adding a raspberry pi/Arduino heat sync to the ESC as well. Any thoughts you have are welcomed. I'm not going for balls out speed all the time. Just something with the option for 4s and 6s. At the moment I think I've only used a 7x4.5 prop with 4s and only one 6s run.

[@bluefish3607]

@@ndcapper Hi I used the DYS Aria 70 amp ESC and blew two of them on Autolaunch and then a Matek F405 wing even though I also used a 35v Cap. After those failures I put it to one side in favour of other projects but will have another go at it soon. Maybe I have a faulty motor, not sure at the moment. Here is my amp draw tests with various props on that motor on 6S the results summary is at 6:35 kzbin.info/www/bejne/moizfp2oe5xkppo

[@fpvkagge]

Isnt the hub (hole) a bot too big for this motor? Im running a tmotor f90 and cant find a prop that fits Strait on.

[@bluefish3607]

Sorry for late reply KZbin messed up comments coming to me fixed now. All my props come with adapters to allow them to fit the motors perfectly.

[@egtreadway4232]

Great video, I'm using factory cg Mark's to Balance my ar wing pro and have been flying this way for awhile but it feels really nose heavy. Just wondering what cg point you are you using? Thanks

[@bluefish3607]

Hi I am using the factory marks as well.

[@egtreadway4232]

Man that's some pretty video thanks, so I finally got my 9050 propeller but not the 1250kv motor, how to you thank this wing would perform with the 9050 propeller on the stock 1400kv motor? Thanks again.

[@egtreadway4232]

Forgot to mention but I also use 4s 5200mah lipo

[@user-om9hw6tr3b]

Hello, tell me, I'm buying the same motor, for 2500 kV (6s), will it be a lot? for maximum results

[@bluefish3607]

You will need a much smaller prop than the one I am using or the motor will fry.

[@deeph46]

do you think stock setup of the pnp one will run 4s 5200mah? really nice footage there btw

[@bluefish3607]

The PNP motor is a SunnySky 2216 1400kv which will be perfect on 4S and the 5200 will give you good CG and a very good flight time.

[@deeph46]

@@bluefish3607 if I fly with gopro will 5200 too heavy?

[@bryanbailey9208]

brill

[@bluefish3607]

Glad you liked it Bryan it was a great session I really enjoyed it.

[@bryanbailey9208]

@@bluefish3607 cheers,, can i set brake on my esc once installed, matek f765 inav, i no how to calabrate esc, failing that ile have to put a folder on my arpro,, its no a bl heli esc, just standard,,

[@bluefish3607]

@@bryanbailey9208 Depends on the ESC, some have program cards you plug in and some like the T-Motor you use beeps and radio stick movements to setup the ESC options. See here as an example of the T-Motor ESC setup store-en.tmotor.com/goods.php?id=901

[@bryanbailey9208]

Yeah think I'll Ave to take esc out ,and by pas the board

[@Bigbeardfpv]

Would you recommend this for first time wing pilots? I fly fpv freestyle drones and want something new to just cruise with

[@bluefish3607]

Hi, the general advice is that if you switch from FPV drones to planes you should start with a relatively slow stable plane with rudder, something like a Bixler. This is so you can learn line of sight flying and get familiar with the feeling of a plane before you step up to a faster flying wing. That said I did not do that, I built a Sonicmodell AR Wing 900 installed iNav and Autolaunched it. It ended in disaster as the VTX blacked out and the plane circled under full throttle losing altitude until it crashed into the trees. So it depends what kind of person you are, if you are like me a risk taker and happy to be responsible for the consequences of not learning to fly line of sight, then an AR 900 or AR Pro are both good platforms to start with. They both launch easily with iNav Autolaunch and fly really well. The AR Pro did not exist when I started but based upon what I know now I would have chosen that over an AR900. I am not sure if that helps or not, but whatever you do it will be an exciting adrenalin rush and I wish you all the best with your Wing adventures :-)

[@bluefish3607]

Makes me laugh looking back at this from 3 years ago, but at the time I was having a heart attack :-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKa4lZmqedRrfpI

[@johndyson8647]

Fantastic video you’ve just convinced me to build my AR wing pro as a 4s cruiser 👍🏻 what esc would you swap to instead of the t motor 75amp ? keep up the great information.

[@bluefish3607]

What motor you going to be running John?

[@johndyson8647]

@@bluefish3607 well looking how your wing preforms I will more than likely go for the brotherhobby motor Iv over 40 years of IC fixed wing flying but new to electric lol.

[@bluefish3607]

@@johndyson8647 I used the Brotherhobby as I did intend to run the plane with 6S but after flying it and deciding to go 4S I will probably replace that motor with a SunnySky MKIII 2216 1250KV with 9x5 prop or the 1400KV with an 8x6. I have the 1250KV on my Dart XL and these motors are just amazing and fantastic value for money. I get really good efficiency with that setup with enough grunt to make it also a fun cruiser with reasonable albeit gentle acro ability. en.rcsunnysky.com/x-fixedwingseries/44.html Best wishes for your build and maiden.

[@bluefish3607]

On the ESC front John I will probably go for the 40amp version of the T-Motor ESC as I really like them, great build quality lots of filtering, strong BEC if you need that and they have good heat dissipation. store-en.tmotor.com/goods.php?id=902 This ESC will work great with the Brotherhobby or Sunnysky motors on 4S

[@johndyson8647]

@@bluefish3607 thank you for the information I like T-motor products I have there motors on a 85x quad I built last year. 👍🏻

[@losien1]

Hello, would somebody be so kind and answered this question please? I’m thinking about this wing (kit) but got no 4s batteries and don’t really want to get another type just for one plane. I’ve got few 3s 5000mah and 6s 5000mah. I’m into long range and efficiency not crazy speeds. Which scenario would be better for me and which gear motor and prop I’d have to buy? Thank you in advance! PS. Thank you for the video. Best regards

[@hankmengedoht6651]

For 3s, I'd say to use 1 or 2 5000mah 3s lipos in parallel. For 6s, use a lower kv motor and run it with a large diameter propeller. The large propeller moving slower is more efficient than the smaller propeller moving quickly. Just don't know which prop diameter to suggest.

[@RS_]

Hey, nice video! Im thinking to save some weight and to use a quad moror like Brother hobby Avenger V2 1750KV which on 4S and 7 inch prop gives nearly 2000grams of thrust and the motor weight is only 40gr

[@bluefish3607]

I have no idea how that will work out but please let me know as I am always interested to see how new setups perform.

[@RS_]

@@bluefish3607 It worked out nicely! 950gr AUW and COG was spot on with no additional weight. And I'm not using any action camera :) The battery I'm using is 4500 4s lipo

[@bluefish3607]

@@RS_ Wow that is a very light and nimble AR Pro, great job!

[@alexglikman8629]

Biuld same setup, but motor 2318 bh 1450kv with 8060 apc. For fast fly have demon 34" on 6s !

[@bluefish3607]

The demon looks like a sweet wing Alex, maybe I will build one someday after I get my Mini Drak finished.

[@cactusjackthedesertrat5601]

Thx for the great video, what would be a good lipo battery and charger for this wing?

[@bluefish3607]

You can run this wing on pretty much any 4S lipo or LION I run 3300mah and 5000mah. Charger wise any LIPO charger would be ok as long as it has the balance option as it will ensure your lipos last longer.

[@cactusjackthedesertrat5601]

Does the voltage matter there are 7.4 ,11.1and 14.8 volt

[@bluefish3607]

@@cactusjackthedesertrat5601 With my setup I use 4 cell 14.8 volt. I would not go less than this on an AR Pro it will be slow and sluggish on a 3 cell 11.1 volt lipo

[@cactusjackthedesertrat5601]

@@bluefish3607 thank you so much for thr help brother : ) I'm going to get my son into flying RC and I think this wing would be great. Have a great day Sir

[@karlosfpv7619]

If you're using 4S and 6S, do you just leave the ESC on 6S setting if using 4S, or you have to go in the ECS setting and set to 4S?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Karlos there are no settings on my ESC's for 4S or 6S. As long as you do not pull more amps than the max rating of the ESC you can run any 4S or 6S without any problems.

[@karlosfpv7619]

@@bluefish3607 thank you for the reply

[@photosjlb]

Hello, Can you tell me the settings of the " Launch mode " that you use to make AR Pro climb to this altitude without your intervention ! Thank you for your help.

[@bluefish3607]

Yes sure no problem, bear in mind my prop is spinning at 1200 when I throttle up before launch! set nav_fw_launch_velocity = 300 set nav_fw_launch_accel = 1863 set nav_fw_launch_max_angle = 180 set nav_fw_launch_detect_time = 40 set nav_fw_launch_thr = 1800 set nav_fw_launch_idle_thr = 1200 set nav_fw_launch_motor_delay = 100 set nav_fw_launch_spinup_time = 100 set nav_fw_launch_min_time = 2000 set nav_fw_launch_timeout = 6000 set nav_fw_launch_max_altitude = 6000 set nav_fw_launch_climb_angle = 30

[@photosjlb]

@@bluefish3607 Thank you very much! It allows me to compare and reassures me for the first flight of the wing of my AR Pro I wish you a good day and many flights.

[@bluefish3607]

@@photosjlb Best wishes for your maiden flight

[@johndeesfpv9289]

hey buddy im running 4s on my AR wing its got the stock motor and prop, will it have enough power ? what would you recommend ?

[@bluefish3607]

It should perform pretty well and be a good balance between performance and flight time if you want to do a bit of longer range flying. Depends of course what you want out of your plane. I have just fitted a Sunnysky MK III 2216 1450KV with a 8x6 prop and it performs great on 4S with a little more climb rate than stock but not excessively so. That said if you want to go really fast them maybe the AR is not the best choice. I hope that helps. Happy Flying

[@johndeesfpv9289]

@@bluefish3607 thanks for your help

[@thiagoamatofpv]

Flight times? Can i run this on a LIION packs, 4s 3000mah?

[@bluefish3607]

Yes, the AR Pro will run on LION no problem, but you may not get as much punch but perfect for long range cruising.

[@Checkyoursix77]

Beautiful flying! I need a new wing and and can’t decide between the AR pro or the Dart XL. Which one do you recommend?

[@bluefish3607]

Thats actually a difficult question for me because I have had my Dart XL for 18 months and have flown it extensively but only had the maiden and one flight of the AR Pro. They are both very capable wings, the only thing to bear in mind is that the XL has a rather more vulnerable fuselage in a crash. That said it also depends what kind of flying you like they are both very capable long range but the XL has been great for proximity and low level flying. I am sorry I cannot help more, they are both great planes and I am sure you will enjoy either of them enormously.

[@lorenitavargas7520]

how did you add the overlay to the video footage?

[@bluefish3607]

I used Dashware www.dashware.net/ Vid tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnKokoWkoLZsoac

[@davidefelicione]

Hello. could you kindly tell us which engine did you use? I can't find a 2216 that can go at both 6s and 4s. thank you

[@bluefish3607]

In the description Brotherhobby Reunion 2318 1250KV Motor

[@davidefelicione]

@@bluefish3607 thanks! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@bluefish3607]

@@davidefelicione Your welcome Davide its a great motor.

[@TheTryzna]

Damn, so tempting to get arpro as well, however launching it seems intimidating:-/ Guess i ll have to stick with my little dart250.

[@bluefish3607]

DO IT! The AR Pro launches so easily with iNav Autolaunch :-)

[@TheTryzna]

@@bluefish3607 well, guess you have not seen how lame i am when it comes to wing throwing XD kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYPWfY2ErcSbrbc

[@bluefish3607]

@@TheTryzna I see what you mean. I would let your daughter throw it for you 😀👍

[@davidefelicione]

good afternoon. I bought this vehicle about 6 months ago. i installed an onboard f4 flight controller with inav firmware. despite the many tests made, I always find annoying oscillations on the roll axis. it flies well, but these swings are very annoying. would you have any advice to improve this situation?

[@bluefish3607]

Fly faster :-) sorry seriously all wings wobble a bit especcailly at slower speeds. What is your motor power train and inav version etc and do you have any video footage and OSD I could have a look at to see if I can see anything obvious?

[@davidefelicione]

@@bluefish3607 good morning and thanks for the answer. I have a 1400kw 2216 motor a 9045 propeller a 40A esc. I fly with an 8000 mah 4s2p lion battery. more than adding weight on the nose I prefer to have more battery since I use it in long range. take-off weight about 1200gr. the medium is balanced well this way. as a cruising speed they are around 60-70kmh and I can fly in this way about 40 minutes.

[@Caroline_Tyler]

I now have 2 mini talons....one awaiting its maiden, both on 1.3Ghz

[@bluefish3607]

Don't tell me that Caroline my PayPal is already smoking :-)

[@Caroline_Tyler]

@@bluefish3607 I've spent so much on planes this year...all paid from savings on not burning petrol :)

[@bluefish3607]

@@Caroline_Tyler Well you cant take it with you so best spend it on things that make us happy for sure. Once my Mini Drak is finished I am hankering for an X-UAV Clouds so I will be joining the Talon club in a way.

[@00whynot]

how on earth did you get it flying so smooth. mine flies like a small child throwing a temper tantrum. Ive only managed a maiden and 1 test flight.

[@bluefish3607]

Make sure CG is spot on and mechanically trim before you iNav tune. Also remember my footage is smoothed with Reelsteady Go. That said the AR Pro is very stable for a wing when well setup.

[@bluefish3607]

This may also help kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJXLmGhql9ice68

[@00whynot]

@@bluefish3607 I noticed the GoPro in another vid and put two and two together. Been flying quads for years. And planes without a flight controller. But since I wanna do some long range for a change a wing with gps and whatnot seemed like a no brainer. Dang that learning curve though lol

[@bluefish3607]

@@00whynot I came from quads 3 yars ago and there was quite a bit to learn but the FC part is somewhat similar to quads. I have got tons of help from the FB inav Fixed Wing Group and their web page links below. facebook.com/groups/INAVFixedWing inavfixedwinggroup.com/

[@wingsmh27]

What type of osd used... And fpv cam also

[@bluefish3607]

For the OSD I used the blackbox data from the FC and processed it with Dashware. Here is a video that shows how to do it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnKokoWkoLZsoac You can get Dashware free from here: www.dashware.net/ I used a GoPro Hero 6

[@wingsmh27]

@@bluefish3607 thanks mate..... ,😍

[@RcFreako]

would it be possible for you to please send me your CLI for your 4s setup. Love the setup man!

[@bluefish3607]

I am running on iNav 2.6.1 on the AR pro atm but just about to upgrade and tune the 3.0.1 version would you like the existing or prefer to wait a little while for the 3.0.1. depends what you are running now I guess?

[@visioneerone]

@@bluefish3607 Also interested in your CLI for this plane. 2.6.1 will be fine!

[@bluefish3607]

@@visioneerone Here is my 2.6.1 dump, I am going to be upgrading and re-tuning with iNav 3.0.2 as soon as I get a decent weather window. drive.google.com/file/d/1WdIKnhuoCOJwCWB4Ms2OsKUnbnmBKpSF/view?usp=sharing

[@visioneerone]

@@bluefish3607 much obliged! I assume that you didn’t need to make any major tuning changes between running 4S and 6S? I’m planning for a (relatively) lightweight 6S capable setup - a 2306 1650kv motor, an iFlight SucceX 55A esc and an F411-WSE…

[@bluefish3607]

@@visioneerone I did not make any tuning changes to iNav for the 6S test apart from rebalancing the CG and reducing the prop size. What prop are you planning to use on your 6S setup? I preferred the way the plane handled and responded on 4S and also the 6S setup was extremely loud and I did not want to upset the local residents or the owner of the land I fly on.

[@FLY_WD_RAGHIL]

That means a 4s is more efficient than 6s???

[@bobfin4291]

HA mate were is the wing wobble seesaw what ever you call it GONE

[@bluefish3607]

It was a relatively calm day and the Reelsteady Go post processing probably helped in removing any small amount of jitter or wobble.

[@jonatancunha253]

Nice vid! How did you get to manage this stabilized footage?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Jonatan I used Reelsteady Go to stabilize the GoPro Session footage. You can get a free trial version here and try it on some of your footage. www.reelsteady.com/

[@DronePlayground]

👍👀🇭🇷

[@BBFPV]

Whats the AMP rating for the 1450kv?

[@bluefish3607]

The motor is 1250kv and pulled 33 amps on 6S full throttle.

[@BBFPV]

@@bluefish3607 What prop size, does the Motor get warm or hot?

[@bluefish3607]

@@BBFPV APC 7x6 on 6S and Aeronaut CAM Carbon Lite 9x5 on 4S, neither get hot but I prefer this plane on 4S with the 9x5 personally and will reserve the 6S option for my Mini Drak build.

[@Chris-vc1dh]

is it inav?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Chris, yes its iNav 2.6 and all other specs are in the video description also.

[@Chris-vc1dh]

@@bluefish3607 how did you get such osd?

[@bluefish3607]

@@Chris-vc1dh I used the blackbox data from the FC and processed it with Dashware. Here is a video that shows how to do it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnKokoWkoLZsoac You can get Dashware free from here: www.dashware.net/

[@Chris-vc1dh]

@@bluefish3607 thank you

[@EnglishTurbines]

6S and 7 inch prop..?...No, it's not designed for speed like I said, just makes a lot of noise...Your smoothed out GoPro footage looked good though...When can we see the real live feed..?..🤔😳🇬🇧

[@bluefish3607]

I did prefer it with the 4S setup as you have seen. I didn't have any plans to upload the raw unstabilised footage but if you are interested to see it I can upload a section for you and send you a link.

[@bluefish3607]

I have loaded up a bit of Raw footage and added the link to the bottom of the main video description so you and anyone else can watch it.

[@scottyh72]

I run mine on 5s and a 2221 1500kv on a 7x6. 115mph @ 32a, or 60mph @ 10a. Starts to get sloppy (handling) at around 45mph.

[@bluefish3607]

@@scottyh72 Sounds good, I am going to run on 4S and try LION for longer range flights and cruising. Will reserve the 6S speed setup for my Mini Drak which is in build phase.

[@vitaliisamotaiev1215]

arwing is the worst wing that exists in the world.

[@bluefish3607]

Hard for me to comment I have only flown 5 different wings. How long did it take you to try every wing that exists in the world? 😀