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[@sebastiansuazo2734]

Notice how jinx says that vi's voice was the only thing that kept her going forward but at the end of the episode it was silcos voice the only thing she heard......

[@amandasantos2852]

Omg YES

[@evenbear]

Yes 👍

[@Flatrid]

because she's in the darkness now..

[@ivonunes3937]

Because she is fully Jinx, powder is forever gone..

[@letmesleepinpeace7052]

Vi also told her to think about their past friends which was haunting Jinx. Silco probably knew that so he told Jinx to stop listening to Vi.

[@DarkRaven4649]

Jinx's rocket launcher is a shark with a black, scar-like detail on its left eye. Silco is a man with a black scar on his left eye who loved sea monsters. Jinx was making the weapon for Silco. She wanted to make it something he'd really like. Shit like this, along with the coffee mug she had made for him (you can see it on his table in many shots) really makes their relationship feel grounded and real - a genuine father/daughter-relationship, toxic and harmful as it might've been.

[@nicholewenn]

STOOOP I'M SOBBING ;___;

[@tabithak7321]

She also made him an ashtray.

[@sqxbarto9229]

@@tabithak7321 Probably just painted it, but close enough :)

[@Joy_Aaaa]

OH MY GOODNESS THIS IS SO SAD!

[@GerblerM]

Toxic and harmful? How was their relationship toxic? The show literally never EVER showed Silco being anything but supportive to powder. Did you even watch the show? Rofl

[@anasemikku8885]

It's so crazy how they portrayed villains in here, and especially Silco. He's not that run of a mill villain that you'd see in other shows and movies. It really got to me when he said "I never would have given you to them, not for anything" or "you're perfect". It just shows that he saw Jinx as an actual daughter and truly loved her in a sense that she's perfect the way she is, and was loyal to that fact and can be said the same for Jinx. They really made us emotionally attached to these villains. I honestly can't wait for Season 2.

[@hamvjones]

He thought Vander had gone soft for not fighting to protect his kids and he ended up doing the same thing... Silco was an amazing vilain.

[@nekomaru3767]

For me it just shows that even if it is the protagonist or even the villain, both of them has their own pros and cons. They both have their flaws and both have their own good. They just have different beliefs and ways to handle situations based on their experiences from their past.

[@beneficent2557]

He is no villain. He is a tragic hero that is framed as a villain.

[@kagato23]

@@beneficent2557 no, he is a villian and I love how the show kept that. He is unquestionably an evil man. And he unquestionably loves his daughter.

[@shadowcat1606]

@@kagato23 He's an anti-villain.

[@P4TR1KI]

16:37 Jinx: I paid your girlfriend a visit this morning. VI: ... ''What's in the fucking box!''

[@wooshbait36]

Thanks for quoting what happened, I'm both blind and deaf so I had no idea

[@teraxe]

@@wooshbait36 I like your name, cause that is the sound of the comment going over your head.

[@tusbru9871]

isn't that Se7en?

[@norberto6005]

@@wooshbait36 did u see the movie seven? :D

[@paulwartenberg8479]

A cupcake. Sheesh. She's not THAT crazy.

[@TheSkynaut]

Vi wanted Powder to remember her friends and family, but Jinx just has horrendous pictures of them in her head, wich are haunting her. I really believe Silco wanted to silence Vi in that moment because of that. He knew.

[@berjanbeen7188]

@ToxicLullaby I mean he constantly tried to kill Vi to get her out of his way. His thinking is that it can only be him and Jinx, no others and right before Vi starts Silco is calling for Jinx to finish it (kill Caitlyn and preferably Vi).

[@Flufferz626]

@@berjanbeen7188 he wants to kill Vi because he sees so much of Vander in her, who he feels betrayed him. He projects this feeling with Jinx, who who really identifies with and her relationship with her sibling. But now he's in anguish because he realized he has become like Vander in that he'd do anything for his daughter. Conflicted. I like it.

[@jorgealberto8544]

@@Flufferz626 wtf? No

[@susielegion9313]

@@Flufferz626 In this episode he wanted to kill Vi to shut her up because he knew she was triggering Jinx.

[@campbell91988]

@@jorgealberto8544 I mean...to some degree yeah though? Like, he seems pretty directly sincere in his belief that anyone except Jinx would betray him and that the same was true for her in reverse. He's pretty openly projecting his experiences with betrayal and trauma and personal healing/self-actualization onto Jinx.

[@jeffmadmastermind3907]

"Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?" is a huge theme in Arcane! Vander, Silco, Marcus, Mrs Medarda, the Kiramanns, Singed...

[@shadowcat1606]

The Kiramanns and Singed, though?

[@ГуглГовно-м7н]

@@shadowcat1606 Singed mentioned that he had a daughter once. I think the implication is that her death was what set him on his path of ruthless experimentation. He couldn't keep her alive back then - now, keeping things alive at any cost is a staple of his work.

[@someoneelse4939]

@@ГуглГовно-м7н ...or that his daughter was the creature he was trying to keep alive.

[@furyofthesmallartist5485]

@@ГуглГовно-м7н A spoiler, if you notice the picture in that locket, it looks like Orianna, Singed being interested in the Hexcore suggests that Singed is actually Orianna's father.

[@gggallin8279]

@@furyofthesmallartist5485 already red that theory somewhere else but that would entirely redcon Oris original lore

[@mekaelbayati8040]

That ending is also symbolic that by the time Piltover got their ass together to handle Zaun, it was too late. The damage was done, and the pain was too much. War was inevitable in the face of Piltover’s oppression.

[@mekaelbayati8040]

@Vari_Ares_YTP Not really. Like I said above by the time they got their shit together it was too little, too late

[@voldetoad5967]

@Vari_Ares_YTP they were voting to back jayce's proposal, part of which was that silco would give up jinx as a scapegoat for the crime which was never going to happen

[@vintnerw1087]

​@Vari_Ares_YTP Think about why Jayce asked for Jinx but not Silco as the price for peace. Because Jayce wanted personal revenge, he resents Jinx for all his suffering. And then think about the other council members' motivation. Mel just wants to break free of her mom's control, others are just voting whats good for their business. That whole "peace" is built on hypocrisy and selfishness. How long do you think that peace would have lasted? How many undercity people can be truly liberated by that peace treaty?

[@abuhanifahhidayatullah9160]

@@vintnerw1087 It's not personal revenge, she killed about 10+ enforcers. She's a serial killer. Jayce was doing what is right by the laws of Piltover.

[@vintnerw1087]

​@@abuhanifahhidayatullah9160If Jacyce wanted to do the right thing he would have gone for Silco for sure. Even after Silco offered himself, Jayce still insisted on getting Jinx because everything Jayce went through, all the politics and killing, was a consequence of Jinx stealing the Hextech gems. Without Jinx, Jayce would have stayed a star scientist. That's plain and simple personal revenge.

[@Hey-Its-Dingo]

One thing I noticed that nobody else seems to have pointed out, Silco didn't start shouting until Jinx whimpered for Vi to stop.

[@GrandmaNUT]

Jinx had it rough, lost 3 dads in the span of at least a decade.

[@jankasolis61]

And she basically killed 2 of them xd

[@GrandmaNUT]

@@jankasolis61 To be fair, Vander's one was accidental, and Silco's death was her defending Vi. Either way both scenarios facked her mind up

[@jorgealberto8544]

@@GrandmaNUT she wasnt defending Vi. She just react to the threat of the gun (the same with the bird she kill).

[@GrandmaNUT]

@@jorgealberto8544 You know there is a thing called unintentional actions? Her goal may not have been to defend Vi but in the process she unintentionally protected her from Silco's shot. Also the bird she killed was on purpose, she stared, she smirked and killed it.

[@jorgealberto8544]

@@GrandmaNUT as u say girl

[@sounesssa]

Show them the "GET JINXED VIDEO" , and also if you like to see a little bit of what Cait and Vi look in the future you can see the "Warriors season 2020" lol video....i'm pretty sure they will like them because Jinx and Vi are on them.

[@yozume8859]

What's the green thing besides your name?

[@wooshbait36]

@@reo4465 No, don't spread misinformation, it means he is a member on their KZbin. Patreon is not connected to KZbin so he can't get a badge here from patreon 🖕

[@jurremioch316]

its cait and vi not jinx

[@Xtoffer87]

"This was the thing that was supposed to happen so she can clear her head" Uhmm, no. She has love for Silco too. He's her 2nd father figure and she killed him too. She is now more fucked up than before.

[@jorgealberto8544]

True, the only good thing is tgat Silco doesnt make his dead a charge to Jinx, like Vi did.

[@Arcadia_Svt]

Jinx just wanted Vi to accept her as jinx and not powder.

[@pedrouchoa472]

Accept her as a psycopath murderer... Love Jinx, as a villain, to be clear

[@Sysrestrpx]

Wait until they explain how Vi loses her memory.

[@lolstuff2077]

@@Sysrestrpx How she gonna lost her memory? I didnt knew that she has amnesia, but it explains why she acting the way she does in the game...Man, this makes things even more f@cked up if you think about it.

[@sofi3535]

why tf would she accept jinx? a fucking mass murderer

[@sofi3535]

@@lolstuff2077 yeah apparently she forgot her name and the only way to remember is by the tattoo on her face

[@thothunter4971]

Jinx killed both of her adoptive Fathers trying to protect Vi when in both cases Vi was not gonna die.

[@teraxe]

Pretty sure Silco was going to kill Vi, he missed with his first shot, but grazed her shoulder. He may have missed by accident, Vi dodging or due to Jinx shooting him, but I doubt he missed on purpose.

[@thothunter4971]

@@teraxe yes that is clear, he intended to kill Vi because he ligit tough she abandoned Jinx and was lying to her. But Vi sorta dodged the shot.

[@berjanbeen7188]

@@thothunter4971 No he tried to kill Vi because he doesn't want her to interact with Jinx. Like he's constantly trying to kill her since she came to rescue Vander. He tried to get Marcus to kill her, but he ended up putting her in prison. Why do people go out of their way to excuse that. He's pretty adamant on him thinking codependency is the way to go for him and Jinx.

[@teraxe]

@@thothunter4971 She sort of dodged that shot, but maybe she wouldn't dodge the next if Jinx hadn't acted. He also knows she didn't abandon her, he thought Marcus killed her, and he later found out that Marcus had only locked her up. Regardless, he knew Vi never abandoned her.

[@CaesiusX]

25:00 The entire Council voted _for_ *Jayce's* plan for peace. It was tragic seeing him smile at *Mel,* thinking they'd accomplished the impossible by averting war.

[@O_Towne_Bear]

"Don't cry. You're perfect" Killed me. I loved (LOVED) this series, best I've seen in a long time. Loved watching again with you and after a second run I will be back.

[@pierremni2173]

Silco was rather composed at the beginning of the final scene. And was rather calm mostly the whole season. But it was when Vi mentioned jinx's trauma and lost friends that he lost his shit and tried to shot Vi, which caused his doom. He was more concerned about Vi mentioning the trauma than getting out of that situation.

[@kirebub]

He was still knocked out and was just waking up. Jinx said that it was only her and Vi there for the moment before lighting up the place.

[@jorgealberto8544]

He was concern about jinx, because vi was bringing his trauma back

[@chaywarburton3488]

I love how the hex core inches away from him when he's going to destroy it, then when he doesn't, it punishes him by taking the leg back.

[@inaotaka1130]

it now looks more like a void core))

[@lizcarn3995]

@@inaotaka1130 It does, it’s suspicious...

[@wowitsfrostygames155]

@@inaotaka1130 im not really sure if it has anything to do with the void though. the void is definitely its own thing. though perhaps its possible somehow in his tampering the tapped into the void but... my thought was that it looks like that because it adapted shimmer into its design. not sure.

[@inaotaka1130]

@@wowitsfrostygames155 shimmer is connected to void? no?

[@gabrielribeiro448]

@@inaotaka1130 no, shimmer is the subproduct of those flowers that were feeding singed's pet when viktor was a child, they have no correlation to the void

[@adrielpurba6284]

i don't want vi to completely move on/forget about jinx. like i don't want her to go just like "fuck jinx, she doesn't exist to me, powder's gone, its not my fault" etc. i know they're not just gonna go back to sunshine and rainbows, but i think by making her always carry that burden (that jinx is partly her fault) together with jinx is what gives their conflict weight. the conflict between them in the next seasons has the potential to be some of the best moments in cinematic history

[@bradhoefler8650]

so i really want the main conflict for VI being accepting her sister for what she is now and making peace with it. like most of the plot of the next season will be everyone trying to kill jinx (the barons, the enforcers, firelights, and caitlyn). so having the Vi stuck between saving jinx and being with caitlyn would be interesting. so in short while everyone is trying to kill jinx, vi will be stuck figuring out he feelings on jinx and having to go against everything to save her.

[@ExclusiveExcellence]

@@bradhoefler8650 I hope/think that she will be on two different sides. Vi is most likely going to join Caitlyn as a enforcer like as a elite task force or something, and Jinx isn’t necessarily going to be on either side of the War rather she will just going to cause massive amounts of chaos

[@bradhoefler8650]

@@ExclusiveExcellence I'm a fairly sure she will be torn. She will have to choose between caitlyn and the city that raised her. Also jinx will fight for zaun ( as that was silcos dream) but will not have any allies, everyone wants her dead (exept vi). We vi joins the wardens in the end but the journey is yet to be seen as to how she gets there.

[@umbranzettaivdb391]

in the game's lore vi joins cait as an enforcer and they track down jinx causing chaos in piltover, wha's interresting is that's what we get for many years league's lore has always been ambigus and seeing the inside of that story is enjoying for fans

[@ragnarstark4887]

@@umbranzettaivdb391 Yea but after seeing Vi backstory that wouldnt make sense at all. She hates Topsiders and enforcers so I hope they dont go according to lore bcs they would kill what they built in Vi characterization.

[@Matt-vo5zm]

"sheesh im not that crazy" - proceeds to blow up the council moments later

[@Galbergoth]

Vander was responsible for the death of Powder's parents by starting a war. Silco killed Powder's new father for betraying him. Powder killed Vi's brothers. Vi rejects Powder, creating Jinx. Silco adopts Jinx. Silco tries to kill Powder's sister, so Powder kills Silco. Then Jinx kills Powder. Now Jinx is starting the war. The same war that got her parents killed. It's all a cycle and it's magnificently done.

[@TheDTVOfficial]

The gauntlets were built for miners... the shield was to protect the user from falling debris and accidental explosions while mining

[@snails6997]

Yes, and the hammer gun is...the... uh... For hammering. from long range. a wireless hammering. yeah that's it. I mean, its blue and definitely gonna knocks somebody tooth, a legit Bluetooth connected hammer.

[@6666Imperator]

@@snails6997 no the hammer was specifically created as a weapon unlike the Robo-arm and the gauntlets. That was why Viktor was so angry about the hammer: They did what they both didn't want to do meaning creating weapons with Hextech.

[@shismith8785]

It's the powder truly becoming jinx by sitting in the chair for me, silcos dying words to her were "I never would have given you to them, not for anything. Don't cry, you're perfect". Even though she was the one that killed him all he cared about was comforting and reassuring her, her sitting in the chair signifies that her fight isn't just her own anymore, she's fighting for silco. The father she lost.

[@FinalShieldnobi]

"Don't cry. You're perfect."

[@captainwhisky7021]

The amount of love Silco have for Jinx is amazing, normally if someone kills me i will get mad at that person, but hes not selfish, even dying he loves her and says what she always want it to hear. "I never would have given you to them, not for anything" "you're perfect".

[@seth7277]

"Don't cry, your perfect."

[@DanielTorres-vs9wt]

i can recognice i cryid like a little boy when my man Silco died, he was a true father and he showed it in his last moments beauttifully, instead of giving Jinx more pain he tried to console her ''i would never give you to them, dont cry... you are perfect'' man what an amazing character

[@BeastModeGaming2013]

Also "Arcane" is a masterpiece in every way, Voice acting, music, characters, character design, animation, artstyle, world design, story, hands down probably the best video game adaptation to a series ever made, definitely my favorite animated series if not its on my top 5 favorites of all time for sure. 10/10 season 2 is going to be incredible! :)

[@ukiyoideas2215]

That shield was Hextech , is just Jayce didnt really explain her how to use them . You can see Jayce do the same thing when they were battling on the Shimmer factory ,

[@tomat8]

Yea, it her passive. Read the abilities, damnit!

[@Grentification]

i will wait for the reenactment of the last scene in game league , where jins ults the intire team and kills everyone but her because of this passive.

[@northstar67]

Vi was causing jinx more harm than good, mentioning her dead friends and. . .vander just harms jinx and is basically a trigger for her trauma, silco knows jinx, her pain and her past and I truly believe and we have seen that he will shoot vi to silence her because she's hurting jinx. Silco (who was the only one who loved her current self) dying was basically her last stretch. . .and by that powder was truly gone its jinx now. I expected silco to die but i was not expecting him to go out like that geez, shit was sad. I dont know how some people hate him but i guess not everyone understands.

[@teraxe]

Vi wasn't just hurting Jinx, she was trying to destroy Jinx, because she doesn't want Jinx, she wants Powder. And I am not sure why you wouldn't hate Silco, sure he is a great character, but he is a drug lord, and runs a criminal organization that is filled with child labor or child slavery, and has been responsible for hundreds of deaths, including corrupting Powder and turning her into a murderer and terrorist.

[@filipeoliveiraladislau4533]

@@teraxe Vi was just hurting Jinx. Jiinx has Delirium derivated from PTSD and not schizophrenia. she associates the guys to hurtful feelings (Mylo to self doubt as example) so mentioning them in a stressful situation only trigger her. she needs time and a long process of healing far from any trigger to process this feelings. And repeting she do not have schizophrenia, "Jinx" and "Powder" are one and the same she only forces the distiction to cover her insecurities Of course I wasn't doing that purposefully its not easy or intuitive deal with someone psychologically damaged.

[@brycethorner]

@@teraxe There was no powder to begin with, if she didnt die during the day Vi left her. She died when she was baptised by Silco. Jinx deserves to die just as much as Silco, so picking justifications on morality are moot at this point. Jinx has killed more people then could be justified. But back on topic, Silco knows Jinx better then she herself did. Because he was the one who raised her (call it manipulation, call it family. But it cant be denied that you tend to borrow habits and mindsets from the people that raised you. As a result, the people who raised you tend to know what hurts you because it hurt them in the past) Vi was crying out for a powder that didnt exist, even if Jinx wanted her to exist. Jinx even fooled herself thinking she could bring "old powder" back. But she is a product of the past, not seperate from it. How can you go back knowing what you know now? Jinx was torturing herself by trying to latch onto powder when being her old self made her feel worthless, and would ultimately feel like she wasnt being herself anymore. Say what you want about that druglord, he knows his daughter...

[@teraxe]

@@brycethorner Yes and he raised her to be a mass murderer. Very admirable of him, not sure why anyone would hate him.

[@josepablolunasanchez1283]

Silco was the solution to a problem that would not exist if Silco had not tried to kill Jinx's family and friends. Vander treated Powder like a real dad who wanted sisters to act like a family. Silco wanted to divide them. So when I hear about Silco being like a dad, I do not forget that Silco killed dad Vander.

[@jorgealberto8544]

Im the only one that notice that anytime Vi say a name of the kids and vander, Jinx become smaller and smaller, and Silco try to shut up Vi for that.

[@TheLightbane]

“It’s a cupcake” (reveals a cupcake)…….HOW THE HELL DID YOU CALL THAT?!?!? My heart was beating so fast during that part!!!

[@tunderdiamant8651]

the fact you thought killing silco was the good thing to do for jinx shows how you didn't understand her character AT ALL xD

[@Cinder_Fall]

Yeah

[@elijahbaker781]

Man this episode was just so damn heartbreaking.

[@Anonymous_user.s]

Powder killed Silco to save Vi, but Jinx killed Powder as a revenge😭😭😭

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

The most "on the nose" monster you've created is Jinx but it's an analogy for basically everything. Zaun is the monster Piltover created. Vi is the monster the Enforcers created. Hextech is a monster Jayce and Viktor created. Silco is the monster Vander created. Shimmer is the monster Silco creates. Rebellion is the monster the aristocracy created. The whole situation is a monster of everyone's creation. The shows core message is duality. Every force has an equal and opposing force. Cause and effect. Choice and consequence. Action and reaction. The title is open ended for a reason and its brilliant.

[@daviddastoli3926]

21:14 the last thing Powder says before Jinx completely takes over. Powder killed everyone she loved and everyone who loved her on accident and remembering what she did to them all was too painful 😣

[@missa4112]

I want this girl a happy ending even if they won't make it in season 2 cuz considering in the lore jinx/powder is 21 years old (I guess?) It's already many years after jinx fully took over and jinx created many chaos on piltover. I hope they would create jinx redemption/healing arc even if it's not on season 2 maybe in future seasons? If there is. ♥️😭

[@neilgcu]

as long as caitlyn's around, powder isn't coming back.

[@cuteartgeek7730]

Y’all seem to really dislike Silco but he really isn’t that bad! Silco & Vander aren’t real brothers but they were super close till Vander betrayed him during the war. Silco first saw himself in Jinx when Powder was left alone and hurt by Vi in ep 3 & he really thought Vi was died bc of Marcus. He never lied to Jinx & truly thought Vi was there for the Crystal & to hurt Jinx. Vi never once really called Her “Jinx” bc she doesn’t expect Jinx she wants “powder”. She even constantly tells Jinx to remember clogger and Mylo which causes her pain and Silco hated that! Jinx was only 7 when Silco took her in & I’m pretty sure we are 7 years into the future now & Silco truly saw her as his daughter by having all the stuff she made on his desk & tried his best to be a good father! They are just both mental not healthy. :’(

[@_Cujo_]

He created an addictive and harmful drug and feeds it to starving and desperate people to use as expendable slaves. It mutates their bodies in strange ways, scarring them seemingly permanently by only a few doses. He doesn't care for these people after he has used them, he lets them wallow in a filthy shantytown. With the power of Shimmer he still does not give back to the undercity, but sets himself up as the kingpin of a rotting city he runs gambling and drinking in. He uses children as labour for his Shimmer factories, even the children of the "elite" and wealthy chembarons. He kills indiscriminately and without mercy. First Greyson, then Benzo, then so many more. He feeds into and exacerbates Jinx's mental illness by telling her that everyone else will eventually leave her. She can trust only him. He is a mentally abusive man who has brainwashed a young girl into believing that he is her only hope for living. He encourages this mentally unstable girl to build him weapons and play with explosives. Some of this abuse can be explained by his own damaged mental state, but that doesn't excuse his actions. Just because Jinx is not right in the head does not mean that she is not responsible for killing those enforcers in the tent firebomb. Just because Silco was betrayed does not mean it is okay for him to gaslight Jinx.

[@cuteartgeek7730]

@@_Cujo_ I didn’t say he was good I said he wasn’t that bad. They live in the underground in Arcane we only really see how jinx & V grow & how there environment is. Obviously silcos environment wasn’t great or most likely worse growing up & he even had the person he trusted the most betray him obviously that’s gonna make him have his own mental Issues. He’s a good father but by no means a good person. He himself is mentally unstable so obviously him raising an already mentally unstable child in the underground environment isn’t gonna go very well they all need therapy. But they do grow. Like you said Silico gets rid of people after he is done with them but he in the end really saw Jinx as his daughter & wouldn’t give her up for the world.

[@davidc.]

Silco is that bad. Stop being delusional because he loves his daughter. Did you just ignore the show entirely? He isn't a good person, the show makes that very clear.

[@Am-jb8yp]

About the creature hanging from the ceiling in the finale - SPOILERS WARNING . . . . . Creature shown is supposedly Warwick, who is an in-game character/champion that was created by Singed (the mad scientist from the show). His description from LOL lore: Warwick is a werewolf that is ''drawn to blood, and driven mad by its scent. None who spill it can escape him''. Uncaged Wrath of Zaun: Though many think of Warwick as no more than a beast, buried beneath the fury lies the mind of a man - a gangster who put down his blade and took up a new name to live a better life. But no matter how hard he tried to move on, he could never escape the sins of his past. Memories of that time come to Warwick in flashes before they're inevitably lost, replaced by searing echoes of the days he spent strapped to a table in Singed's lab, the mad chemist's face looming above him. His world a haze of pain, Warwick could not recall how he fell into Singed's grasp... and even struggled to remember a time before the suffering began. The scientist patiently carved into him, installing pumps and hoses to inject chemicals into his veins, seeking what an alchemist always seeks: transmutation. Singed would reveal his subject's true nature--the deadly beast hidden within a "good man". . So the possible SPOILERS part is: The body that Singed is been experimenting on, that ultimately becomes Warwick, is supposedly Vander's body, as it is hinted at that Warwick=Vander from his LOL lore description that almost matches Vander's character in the show as well as: -from the show: Vander is known by ''The Hound of the Underground'' -from the game: Warwick has very specific voice lines to both Jinx and Vi ; to Jinx: "You were there, let me forget" to Vi: "The fear in your eyes, I've seen it before" - "Who taught you how to punch?" -from the lore: "Warwick struggled to recall a single memory from his past... All he could see was blood. But then he heard a little girl screaming. Screaming something he couldn't understand. It sounded like a name." - this could be a reference to the finale of Act 1 between Powder and Vi. . . I'd say its about 99.9999999999% that its Vander=Wawrick, it just makes sense as to why they Ned Stark'd my man so early. LETS FUCKIN GO!!!

[@shadowscurse6199]

that final song in the end was too powerful with that scene, unreal

[@khoinguyen5004]

She killed the father to protect the sister, yet chose to be the daughter instead of the sister.

[@chaywarburton3488]

Silco went to shoot Vi, in fact you see it miss her, near the head... but when Jinx saw that she chose Vi over Silco, even through it was more of a crazed reaction anyways, she still killed Silco to save Vi. Since he did raise her, no matter how crappy of a father he was, it still devastated her. Edit: I'm allowed to have an opinion guys on Silco as a father, you are all too. We don't need to argue. It's Thanksgiving here so everyone have a happy holiday ^,^

[@lord.inquisitor.fluffy2758]

I wouldn't say he was a creepy father, he was more like a really loving father that had issues himself

[@chaywarburton3488]

@@lord.inquisitor.fluffy2758 Yeah. I base that opinion on my expectations ;) I'd have helped her through the trauma vs tell her to use it and make her into a weapon. Unstable. Etc. We're all going to view his parenting 'style' and effectiveness differently ;)

[@chaywarburton3488]

@Lycanthrope I remember that, yeah.

[@jeromdupont7972]

Crappy father ? Wish i had silco as a father lmao

[@petrgalko4152]

What do you mean crappy father?? He gave her everything a child in her situation needs! Including a coping mechanism of dealing with her mental issues. He helped her overcome her distress and made her strong while caring endlessly for her. He was there when she needed him. He essentially changed who he was and his point of view on life because of the way she changed him for good! Silcos character development is by far the best out of the whole show! Its sudden but solid and heartwarming! He had issues, his flaws and did bad things but deep inside because of love and care towards Jinx he changed and not for his own good, but for hers! It is said that a father isn't a father from the moment his child is born, but rather from the moment he holds the child in his hands! And this goes perfectly for Silco ever since episode 3! The moment he held Jinx and realized how much of himself he sees in her, he started to turn back to that brother Vander almost drowned! Also I feel like I have to point out one thing. Jinx wasn't aiming at Silco directly. She just spinned around in a circle while her gatling gun was turned on! It was a pure chance that Vi lived and Silco died. Its obvious from the paraler in her mind as Vi is calling out the names of her friends and she starts to hold her head and spins around before shooting to make the voices go away! She wasn't really trying to kill anybody at that point she just wanted quite! And sadly hit her father... Say what you will about Silco but he was a great and supportive father who never looked down on his daughter. He was there for her and supported her with every ounce of his being. Even against others they worked with. He even kept the mug and the ash tray she made for him when she was a little girl on his office desk, like any other proud father would. And what Silco said at that table was 100% true, Vi would eventually gave up because she doesn't want Jinx, she wants Powder. But Powder is gone both because of how she left her but also because she grew up. Thats what Silco meant. Unlike Vi, Silco loved Jinx for who she was, not who she used to be. He would have loved her no matter what and would be by her side or in the shadows to make sure that she is safe.

[@wowitsfrostygames155]

something to keep in mind is the peace wasnt going to happen anyways. silco wouldnt have given jinx up anyways, so a war would have started over her regardless. jinx has always been, in a way, a bad omen for the people around her. but this one time, she knew exactly what she was doing. peace be damned. its pretty poetic.

[@missa4112]

Enough is enough for what jinx felt.

[@artemisa1523]

People in the comment arguing if Silco, Jinx or Vi is the villain... guys, the council is the villain. They are supposed to protect the civilians but they are too corrupted and too comfy in their big mansions to care about the "lowly" Zaun people

[@missa4112]

Yeah and personally i think jinx blowing them up kinda feels they deserve it and wake up call for them that everything is too late. Jinx will bring chaos to piltover there will be many people will die because of what piltover done to the people of zaun (I saw it in the lore) they created a monster and now she is unhinged and nothing to lose because she lost everything jinx had either directly or indirectly by her hand. The ending was sad and heartbreaking 😭♥️.

[@adriankuban2904]

Vander was for Vi (Violet) best father figure. And Silco was for Jinx (Powder) best father. ;) Vi and Jinx are like Vander and Silko The some paralela. You know what I mean guys blink blink. ;)

[@s4more846]

Well, actually when Vi was asking jinx to remember their family members like Vander and the other ones. Jinx was sinking in total lunacy and silco know that because of jinx's trauma(episode 3). so he's trying to prevent that. On the other hand Vi wanted Jinx to return to her late self, but that is impossible cause Jinx's older self as powder was long gone she changed and that is the thing that Vi cant accept, or rather she didn't notice that. All That Jinx wanted is for Vi to accept her as jinx.

[@joserodriguez2251]

Man! I haven't seen an animated this good with so many plot twist in a while. 👍

[@z0tw]

Feel like a lot of folks do not quite know that Silco isn't necessarily a bad guy. He is trying to help Zaun rise up to the level that Piltover is at and beyond as well. None of the characters in this show are truly evil. Some may be bad people, but you look at each character and notice that they are doing what is the best thing for their own background/situation.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

Silco is definitely a bad guy but he did good things and had a noble purpose but there was too much death and evil deeds on his hands for him to ever be anything but a villain.

[@krismarshall3803]

@@XHobbiesPrime yeah, like he did help in making shimmer. But it was mainly for battle purposes against the top side. Upon realizing it has addiction properties and side effects he portable just went "okay, guess I'm a drug dealer on the side now" XD. Like people assume he created it purposefully to get his people addicted to cocaine XD.

[@JasonMcAlpin]

Thats the great thing about the series. there are so many layers to everyone. If anything it kinda reminds me of Xavier and Magneto. One trying to go the peaceful route and the other the militant route. But it goes much deeper because it seems like Vander used to be just like Silco and was violent and just as dirty as Silco and after the fight between them on the bridge and meeting the girls something changed. Even in the first episode vander looks at the arm where he was stabbed. I think by the last episode Silco had finally reached the same place Vander had and looking for a peaceful way out. If anything I think they all got dirty hands. No one is without their faults and demons. Jinx just has more than most.

[@berjanbeen7188]

Considering what he did with shimmer how he has no qualms about killing children and he doesn't seem to be lifting the people of Zaun from the muck, I'm doubtful he didn't do all this for his own power.

[@-just-so-]

​@@berjanbeen7188 Silco told the audience his plan in Act I, all those years ago - to become the thing that Piltover fears most. And he did exactly that. He turned Zaun into a powder keg ready to explode right under Piltover's floorboards, and it worked. It still makes him a monster, but shows that his endgame truly wasn't about his own power. During the negotiations, when Jayce demands that Silco discontinue the production of shimmer (the source of Silco's power in the undercity), Silco agrees without hesitation. Return the hextech gemstone (another powerful bit of leverage)? No problem. Silco is even fully prepared to give up his own freedom - he sees an outcome where both Zaun and Jinx are free as preferable to one where Piltover remains in charge and he gets to keep lording it over the undercity as a drug kingpin. For a free Zaun, Silco was ready to trade away his own power, position, and even his freedom - the only thing he wouldn't trade away was Jinx. Silco is a zealot, for whom no body count was too high a price for Zaunite independence - a monster, but one of the most purely ideologically-driven characters on the show. Except for his one, fatal weakness: his daughter.

[@SebasTian58323]

I can't figure a way to say it as well, so here's a comment from another video. ReelRai 5 months ago Silco blew me away in this series. He's one of the best villains I remember in a looooong time. He started out as a hideous villain. Someone who hated Vander for leaving the cause. And throughout the series we're not sure, if his care for Jinx is geniune or if he's just playing her, using her for his needs. I'm sure in the beginning, Silco just wanted to use her, and saw a little bit of himself in her. But by the end... oh damn. Silco is in the same position as Vander was and... he understands. He can't give up Jinx for Zaun. Zaun that he has worked his entire life to achieve, all undone by a daughter. Vi loved Powder, and wanted Powder back. But Powder changed, and there was nothing but Jinx left. The only one who unconditionally loved Jinx, was Silco, and I think that's what the end scene is about. Jinx wanted Vi to love her, love what she had become, love Jinx. But after killing Silco she realizes he was the only one who really cared for her, no matter what she had become, and thus Jinx chose to sat on the Jinx chair. It's a twisted father-daughter relationship, but goddamn if it isn't well done, and goddamn if I didn't tear up when Silco died

[@Fez_Co97]

22:12 - Was the moment Viki knew exactly what was happening. This is the beginning of the war!

[@kmikc909]

The thing hanging from the ceiling when Singed was sitting looking at a photograph.... That was Vander's body, he is being turned into something called Warwick... its heartbreaking...

[@maryl5806]

Not gonna lie, best cliffhanger! I just finished binging your whole reactions, took me half a day

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

Weyoun and Dukat, Leoben and Cavil, Wo Fat, Gus Fring, Ras Al Guhl, and Silco here. best selection down the line of twisted manipulative villains.

[@skam9434]

The girl with blue hair is very smart. She predicted almost everything.

[@arthurarda]

Ellie thinks Silco is The evil of the evil? WTF. She didn't understand nothing about him.

[@zenyattakawai3076]

I was about to say the absolutely same. Such a simpleton

[@dom4012]

Jayce stopping Viktor from committing suicide was the same as when Viktor stopped Jayce from committing suicide when Jayce was force out of his projects

[@RizztrainingOrder]

Driven, ambitious, Morally ambiguous father figure that took in an abandoned orphan: “I hate Silco kill him!” Murderous, psychologically disturbed, sociopathic terrorist: “ahhhhhh i luvvv her!”

[@timstackii]

Silco was such a loving father figure to Jinx. He really wouldn't have given her up for anything. He is also not why Jinx is crazy, but rather Vi (and even her parents) that caused her abandonment issues that just got worse over time.

[@Rizso1]

SIlco is such a good villian, so good anyone can empathy with him.

[@shinzososaku11]

My favorite platonic duo here is Jinx and Silco. Even though they've been abandoned and betrayed, when they met each other, they trusted again, on each other. Silco is a great father figure for Jinx, since he experienced and felt what Jinx had felt before, he can guide her and console her in his own ways. He might be twisted in some way so his ways of showing love may be completely different from a human who has not experienced so much suffering like his, however even if he still see that she has some use, we also see that he truly and unconditionally loves Jinx for who she became. Silco isn't trying to erase "Powder", for me I think he just want Jinx to be strong and letting her past self die (or letting go her past self) is a way he thinks is the best since he also went through it. Whenever the the series shows a scene of them together, like in Jinx's room(?), if we look past the disturbing stuff in her room or most of their conversation, we'll see that it was like a father lecturing his teenage daughter. Or when Jinx injected the shimmer on Silco's eye, why would he let her see his most vulnerable scene or why would he trust her to inject shimmer in his eye. Also the scene where Silco found Jinx, in the verge of death, he didn't hesistate to rush to her and check how she is before cradling her closely (why would he need to "act" gently, in front of an unconscious jin and his subordinates when he doesn't truly care for her?) And carrying her on his own, not even giving her to his buff and strong subordinates beside him. He could've just gave her to them but he didn't and he carried her instead. He also rushed towards the doctor instead of letting someone bring her there, he wanted to see for himself and make sure for that she will be fine. At the last episode, where Jayce and Silco talked, Silco became fidgety when Jayce mentioned Jinx and looked around before saying that she was working for him (most likely saying that he ordered her to do all of that, even though most of Jinx's 'mistakes' or kills was done by Jinx intentionally). He also became solemn (is that the right word?) after their talk. This was his most important decision, it's whether he give up Jinx in exchange for his dream or he gives up his dream to let Jinx be safe?

[@shinzososaku11]

When the part where Vi kept telling Jinx to remember Mylo, Claggor and Vander came, we see that all Jinx saw was the haunted image of what she has done. We all know that Vi is wrong in this part, why? Well for me it's because in the past, when Vi and Mylo talked, Powder (Jinx) heard their conversation then later on when Vi talked to Powder (Jinx), Powder (Jinx) mention some of the words she heard in Mylo and Vi's conversation, it shows that it immediately took a toll on her emotions and self worth. It was this time when Vi comforted her. Then the next was when Vi had punched/slapped Powder in anger and sadness, she also had said what she denied to Powder. "Because you're a Jinx...Mylo was right" This sentence destroyed any trusts, words of comfort and acceptance from Vi in the past. She most likely felt even more guilty and when Vi left and didn't came back (because an enforcer got Vi), for her she was abandoned for being a Jinx and that last sentence was engraved in her mind, adding more on the trauma she had seen and experienced. For me, it should have been obvious for Vi that Powder has been dealing with problems regarding her self worth (since I think that Powder always feels the need to be stronger and catch up to Vi, Mylo and Claggor). For the years they've been together, Vi should have noticed the changes or some hints about Powders problems since for me I think that you would know your own family member who had been with you for many years and feel if they are troubled. Now in the present, Vi kept seeing Jinx as Powder and whenever she sees Jinx, she would have the urge to bring back Powder (the one she knows that is happy go lucky, the "weak" version of Jinx) however she needs to accept that as time passes, people change just like Vi had matured and changed slightly. So when Vi kept making Jinx remember the memories she(Vi) considered as happy, she (Jinx) instead remembers her mistakes and the doubt of her self worth and her other problems began rising once again, this was an unintentional mistake on Vi's part. When Silco attempted to shoot Vi, the reason was, he saw that his daughter is currently getting reminded of her mistakes, the results of her mistakes and what caused her to be mentally and emotionally unstable. He knows it is hurting Jinx, and the only way he thought at that second was to shoot Vi. However due to currently being emotionally and mentally unstable, from the hallucinations and memories, she had shot Silco. We saw that Silco admitted that he wasnt planning on giving her up in exchange for the peace and freedom that he had always dreamed of. He also said in his dying moment "Don't cry....You're perfect". It shows that even in his last breath, he only thinks about Jinx's mental and emotional condition. He wanted her to not mourn for him and be sad, and as you see instead of using a name (powder or jinx) he said YOU'RE. It means that whatever she becomes, she will always be perfect the way she is, comforting and raising her self worth and self esteem. As he died, we see that Jinx had became fully Jinx (Not because she had let Powder die but she let go of her past to move on and accepted her mistakes completely. Powder and Jinx had became one. So Powder had became strong) I see most people reacting to this doesn't see the good intentions of Silco even in the end. I feel bad that just because of Silco's ways to achieve his dream, appearance and history of being evil completely blinded them from knowing that he is also human and people change as time passes. Silco had once thought Vander was "weak" for Powder and the rest but when he had taken Powder in, he became the "weak" man he called Vander before.

[@shinzososaku11]

This is only based on my understanding of Silco from watching Arcane.

[@shinzososaku11]

Also...I hope that Jinx will have a new voice in her head in the second season and I hope that it will be Silco however instead of voices of doubts, self hatred, and guilt, Silco would be whispering comforting words, encouragement and support for Jinx. I really hope they do that. Jinx needs someone she trusts to be there with her and with Silco's presence she may slowly get her sanity back since I saw a video (idk if its an official leak or something) that talks about Jinx gaining her sanity back.

[@DoremiFasolatido1979]

Silco of course didn't want to lose Jinx...but his reaction when Vi was yelling names at her wasn't because of that. He wasn't afraid it would work...he was in pain because he could see how much Vi was hurting Jinx by dredging up all those demons at once. If Vi hadn't been stopped, she might well have driven Jinx into a permanent catatonic state. She's schizophrenic, and still has all the same disorders from before on top of it. Had Vi kept empowering those voices, Jinx and Powder both would've been destroyed, and who knows what would've happened. Odds are, all those other voices just would've faded away, and there'd be nothing...just an empty-eyed doll. . Silco couldn't stand to see her go through that. For all his flaws, his love for her as his daughter was sincere.

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

Yea, no... This is definitely not a commercial. Obviously it will bring interest to the game, they're not blind to that. But these stories have been around in book form for over 10 years. It was something the developer did for free as a gift to the community to make the experience better. Now they're really just making it in video form, this is without a doubt a decision to capitalize on it, partly to bring attention to the brand but I am absolutely convinced the driving force behind this was just passion, love and the desire to give the fans something extraordinary. They could half axxed it and throws something together in less than a year and it would still bring massive attention. This took over 6 years to make and they didn't slack off in any capacity. It's one of the best written, directed, animated and voice acted shows I've ever seen. It might be the best show I've seen period. It's virtually flawless. It would be more fair to say the game is a commercial for Arcane than the other way around.

[@Ellis_Hugh]

Powder literally saw her first father die, and then caused her second AND her third father to die, each of which would have done anything, given up anything for her. One of my favorite interpretations of the final scene was Powder killed Silco to protect Vi, so Jinx finally killed Powder.

[@gpaje]

Zaun was about to be created, the councilors all voted for peace at the end of the episode, but Jinx screws it up in the end. This show was amazing, thank God that a season 2 is confirmed!

[@mrmayhem1652]

Even if Jinx didn't fire the rocket at the end it wouldn't have mattered if the councillors voted for peace because the deal was, in order for peace Slico had to give up Jinx and he wasn't going to do that.

[@neilgcu]

WAR IS COMING !

[@cutecookie3375]

@@mrmayhem1652 Exactly. The war was gonna happen either way. Silco was ready to go to war for Jinx, just like how Vander was ready to give himself up for Vi.

[@mrmayhem1652]

@@cutecookie3375 Exactly. I've seen so many comments about how 'Jinx messed up the chance at peace' or 'she started a war that didn't need to happen'. Vander was willing to give himself up for Vi so the peace can remain and protect her and Silco was prepared to go to war rather than give up Jinx. So Jinx firing that rocket didn't matter, war was going to happen either way

[@adzjr_]

And if silco does give up jinx, they will eventually betray him or not give him everything he demanded

[@chimkuroo6496]

Vi wanted to change jinx back to powder , but Silco accepted jinx for who she really is. I get Vi's part but, making jinx remember mylo, clogger and vander. The people that died because of her , that gave her the trauma is a bad decision. The shadows that haunted her for years appearing and shouting at the same time will never be a good sight

[@Aacula]

24:17 so she does talk!

[@diegolfwii]

I'm glad to watch the entire show with you homies, nice reaction!! I'm just impatient for the season two!!!

[@maxarcher21]

You can see Vander on Singed's lab... Jinx know she is not Powder anymore and Vi can't understand that, Sylco try to stop Ví only when Ví named Mylo Claggor cause saying the names only hurt Jinx and nothing good happen with that memory, Ví don't do that on purpose but she was hurting her sister... It's My opinion at least... Sorry if My English is Bad, hugs from Argentina. For more Of the characters You can see, "Get Jinxed" jinx vídeo, "ekko, seconds" obviusly ekko vídeo, "Warriors (2020)" caitlyn and Vi team.... Spoiler alert! .... "Warwick" have a vídeo and the rumors says Warwick it's Vander

[@BeastModeGaming2013]

Love you ladies & the reactions, just to let you girls know Arcane is renewed by Netflix for a season 2 it has been announced & confirmed to currently be in production, also this show is based on the LoL game but it is very different from the game do there's really no need to try n play the game its 2 very different things girls trust me on that, but if you want to look out for a game youtube a game called Project L its a fighting game that's currently in production & that game will have characters from Arcane tv show & characters from League of Legends as well that game will tie in way more to Arcane. Keep up the great work Queens you are all amazing!.

[@MaCherie92]

Silco was never the villain for his people. Certainly not for Jinx. He loved her truly.

[@krismarshall3803]

Yeah the whole is that jinx can never return. So even if they killed Silco it wouldn't just snap her back to powder, because he also is someone she cares about. And Vi really did show she doesn't love jinx. She loves her sister, and powder, but not how she currently is. Not saying if they went together Vi would grow that irritated with her she would leave her. But she could never accept her. All intents and purposes, jinx became a monster and vi needed to accept shes a monster. Granted, best thing for Vi is to eventually offer a work-around with this, but Silco had to be alive for it to happen since he is part of jinxes life. Though I'm not saying she has to just let jinx kill people lol. It's one of those scenarios where there is no clear answer as you end up losing regardless.

[@kirebub]

Jinx set the party up for her to be the only possible winner. Either she gets the family she wants or everyone loses.

[@thedarkwitch5644]

I think powder was the one told her Vi’s voice is kept her going not jinx because vi loves powder not jinx. But silco loves jinx so when she decided that she is jinx and powder is dead she heard the person that excepted her and that person was silco not vi because vi dosent see jinx as her lil sis sooo yhea thats sad and silco is a very good perant I love how arcane writes each character

[@marcopadilla3840]

French production has too much talent

[@SCharlesDennicon]

Jinx didn't "clear her head" AT ALL by killing Silco.

[@GerblerM]

Why does everyone think she's trying to blow up the moon? Rofl every reaction of ep9 i've seen people get confused at that

[@lilscenechick1995]

It was a confusing shot. Optical illusion. That's all.

[@GerblerM]

@@lilscenechick1995 Tell me you didn't watch the show without telling me you didn't watch the show. It was not a confusing shot, nor was it an optical illusion. The literal VERY FIRST SHOT they have showing the rocket, has it passing the moon, and aimed directly at the council chambers (35:42 on netflix btw). So you're just dead wrong on that front, but furthermore, you weirdly enough tried to double down by saying it was an "optical illusion"? How? where's the illusion? What in the fuck are you talking about rofl

[@joaogmes3739]

@@GerblerM wtf bro chill, people get confused sometimes

[@chadbailey7038]

I love how invested you all are in this. Just like me! Season 2 has been announced 👏🏾

[@modder8911]

Pretty sure the one who says "it's just a cupcake" watch arcane already Edit: they watch it already

[@amelieschuster3586]

Sometimes, peace is not enough ... they all have to be punished

[@SpiderandMosquito]

"You're My World" by Umberto Bindi and Carl Sigman You're my world, you're every breath I take, You're my world, you're every move I make, Other eyes see the stars up in the skies, but for me they shine within your eyes. As the trees reach for the sun above So my arms reach out to you for love With your hand resting in mine, I feel a power so divine You're my world you are my night and day You're my world you're every prayer I pray If our love ceases to be That is the end of my world for me. With your hand resting in mine, I feel a power so divine You're my world you are my night and day, You're my world you're every prayer I pray If our love ceases to be, That is the end of my world, End of my world, End of my world for me.

[@silpao-uy]

that is, everyone believes that JINX is right but the truth I think it is VI that is because at least she tried everything she could and cared about JINX many times. in this case if SILCO really wanted JINX he would not try to kill VI several times.

[@aki.Roarwyn]

The final reaction with the music would have remained epic

[@TheDTVOfficial]

5:23 nice catch from Viki.. they did both kill innocent people in the pursuit of their goals

[@MyChannel2103]

Vander and Silco were once like brothers, they were not biological brothers.

[@theeddytor3490]

i came here from caps tv channel.... i am kinda like a psychologist in his early practices, not gonna lie i like your channel merely because you guys don't just react but the interpretation sync oof you 4 is different (not odd just different) so thanks for helping me make case study and practices lmao

[@timmni]

DON'T PLAY THE GAME.... IT WILL CHANGE YOU LIKE IT CHANGED POWDER. I speak from experience

[@Metindolunay1905]

Jinx I think you could be an antihero . He had a personality disorder because of his older sister.

[@alphamorion4314]

Sevika's been made to be almost a punching bag by some memes going around. Still, remember... she almost kicked VI's ass two times, and both times she was about to win. Like... Sevika's a BEAST. That, an also she was everywhere, the pillar of every Silco's operation. Loyal as fuck. She probably was even the one that guided Jinx through puberty. One of the most awesome, yet underrated characters (because we 'see' her only get beaten by VI)

[@17thknight]

I hope you know we had everything When you broke me and left these pieces I want you to hurt like you hurt me today and I want you to lose like I lose when I play:.. .... What Could Have Been

[@HakanDu]

You guys need to react to the lol cinematic „awaken“ it’s so good!!

[@aanyamallick7747]

live how when she shot that rocket she embraced a name that was used to belittle her. But now, Silco is dead and powder is, so the events that played out in the past was the past. She's cured of her trauma, she was already smart, but being a jinx makes her dangerous. Also, i would love to see you guys react to this tribute of her character. kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3evqYdvnq2cnMU

[@marcg.fugarolas1552]

Why did you mute the video when Jinx shot Silco? :(

[@lenny4039]

Jinx isnt in Powder's head. She's a part of her now and that's the problem with Vi. She can't accept who she is right now and treats the current her as a mental illness that needs to be healed. She keeps trying to remind her of who she was, like a parent who tells their kid "you used to be such a sweet child, why can't you just go back to that". This is horrible for a child because it makes them think that if they aren't that person anymore, the parent won't love them. Especially for Jinx, where remembering is torture for her. Imagine if Vi's answer to the chair question is "I love you regardless, whether you're Jinx or Powder." This would've helped her so much, especially since Jinx is partly a product of Vi's words to Powder. On the other side, Silco's love is unconditional and self-sacrificing, which is toxic as well. On his desk we can see a monkey cup and some sort of a toys, that she as a child crafted him as a gift, a colored by Jinx ashtray and a ceiling hung with toys, where he let Jinx to hang out. He keeps all of that for sentimental reasons. In they interactions we see, that he actually let Jinx be herself and sort of "spoils" her. He cover her ass every time she screw up, tells her to relax while Sevika will clean up her mess, never blames her even when she hurts him and etc. He fully accepted her "jinxed", messed up part and never blames her for that. The problem is that with his overwhelming love he gave her the wrong idea of what love is, the toxic picture of love, for her "it's only you and me, no one else matters". This is why she treats Caitlyn the way she does because with the love she's accustomed to, if she asked Silco to kill someone for her, Silco would do it instantly. Which is wrong. And another aspect. Both Silco and Vi was convinced that each other have a bad influence on Jinx/Powder. Vi thought that she is saving Powder from Silco, while Silco thought that he is saving Jinx from Vi. They both considered each other as threats, they didn't now how much both of them care for her and that she need both of them to be in her life (tho it's really impossible).

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

All of them voted in favor for the peace deal. A yes vote shines a light your seat. 7 seats, 7 lights = all voted for peace. They just did it too late. That's the thing with this show. It's so easy to blame the war on Jinx for blowing up the council but has they done the right thing just a day earlier, none of this would've happened. They should've voted for peace YEARS ago. This is not the fault of a any single individual. This is the result of everyone's misstakes.

[@mngzoo7965]

Powder's heart will still remain in her, Jinx's mind too.

[@gpaje]

Jinx is awesome and cool, but she is a crazy murderer who killed a whole bunch of enforcers and that's not including all those from rival gangs. VI got almost 7 years in jail for blowing up a building, Jinx is on a whole other level.

[@nitpicker42]

Actually, Vi was never accused of a crime - Marcus just threw her into Stillwater for safekeeping

[@XHobbiesPrime]

@@nitpicker42 Yeah there was no paperwork on her or anything. She was just tossed into a cell and left there.

[@reo4465]

hahahha but the people of zaun might think different.

[@vainland]

Jinx killed the people who killed her parents. From her perspective, the enforcers are the crazy murderers. Jayce killed a boy and Vi told him “the kid signed up for it” which shows that Vi isn’t a saint. She’s fine when she or others kill people, even if they were children, but she doesn’t want her sister that way.

[@HazelAmarie]

@@vainland Vi clearly has lived a life where she’s seen kids die everyday… that doesn’t mean she lacks compassion she’s just grown immune to it.

[@TheFixer_1]

War & Battle is a highly fluid state where ppl die... sometimes you'll lose something that's irreplaceable... someone should tell Mel's mother that before war starts! Don't worry Season 2 has been confirmed

[@sallgoodman5546]

One of the best villians I have ever seen. Can't wait for S2.

[@bimbimga]

They start this series at the end of the War between Pitlover and Zaun, and they end this series with the New War between Pitlover and the Nation of Zaun And the end of relationship between Jinx and Vi, like Vander & Silco from brother to enemy Fk this show is epic. Which relationship will come to an end on SS2? Vander and his child? Viktor and Jayce? Mel and Jayce? Damn, heartbreaking.

[@call_9119]

They didn't see Vander is hanging in the laboratory. He will become warwick

[@sae05z]

Don't worry we will have season 2 soon. They are in production