Archery | Can You Put A Laser Sight On A Bow?

[@John-sz7vf]

What about laser sights on throwing knives

[@paulovinicius9940]

DrinkTheCoffee Put a bipod on the knife.

[@KrakeNinMaceralar]

Colonel: Oh look i unlocked the bipod for my bipod knife.

[@allengalaxy]

I have the best idea. A flashlight that only works in the light

[@TeamLegacyFTW]

12x scope and a suppressor on a sawed off shotgun like a BAWSE😈

[@josephmeyer6232]

@@paulovinicius9940 dude in BF4 the community made that and DICE put in the game

[@ShelbyDude1]

Excellent presentation, NU. As a former jarhead sniper, I can tell you that even something as simple as a heartbeat will have a significant affect on your sighting, especially when using a long-range rifle. I could see evidence of your heartbeat (transmitted through your hands) to "throb" the laser point ever-so-slightly it in the video. Plus, after a not-too-far distance, the laser cannot be seen during daylight operations. No laser sights for this old Marine. I'll calculate "my dope" using the old method and put a round where it needs to go almost every time. Keep up the great work, NU. I thoroughly enjoy your channel although I am not an archer.

[@gfreeman9843]

Great info Nu..makes great sense and well presented 👍👍

[@franko8572]

A..jar..head.. maaaan, just say you were in the marine corps.

[@ReportSubject]

why not just use an arrow so big that you can touch the bullseye with it from wherever you are standing

[@TITANia69420]

Drake Bell a ballista! Yes! A ballista! Thats the thing

[@rifqibahauddin6977]

but the bigger the arrow, the heavier it is, the more unstable it is for long range shooting, smaller arrow can go trough the wind easier, and heavier arrow means you need heavier draw weight

[@muhammadsukriramli8041]

Drake Bell a bigger arrow means a bigger bow

[@guguigugu]

even with a weightless, perfectly straight arrow you would have literally the same instability issues as with a bow

[@joesmith4421]

That's it I'm hunting with a ballista that deer with have no idea what's gonna hit em lol

[@21dirtyj]

Had the bow set up at a pro shop. It performed just fine kzbin.infoUgkxQEKUoxLWwayEDZR0NKB-5limn4MBU-2L . And I would say this is a good starting now that I could pass down to my son when he is older.But the package was missing the release and a nock was missing from one arrow.Dealing with customer support was terrible. They suggested I buy a new release rather than correct their own quality control issue because it’s to expensive for the. to ship it out from China.Update: manufacturer got back to me and resolved the issue. I retract the above statement.

[@prophet6722]

Nanosuit Bow Laser sight Crysis?

[@RianonSorrowShine]

Indeed. :)

[@ronanbudiyono2117]

Cant, wont run

[@stitchowi]

Ooo

[@rodrigoamattei]

The way I see it: bare bows are like pistols, agile, fast, good for short range, while Olympic style recurve are like snipers, slow, big and precise, better suited for long distances. Each one requires a specific and different skill set. You don’t see people bothering a sniper saying he should take of his scope, so people should stop annoying Olympic recurve archers about their sights….

[@randomnobody660]

you don't, except a sniper serves a practical purpose, whether olympic style recurve is a sport. If you are an actual soldier, nobody cares what you use. You can use all sorts of performance enhancers if you wish, you may sabotage the enemy, you do anything to win. Sport is not like that. The way i see it, we expect athletes who compete at the highest level to do incredible things. Yes, even with gadgets taking away some of the things you had to do, it is still a test of skills, but there's a limit of how much is ok. Say would you be ok with using a sort of kick stand to hold the bow steady as well? The aiming part is still there, the drawing part is still there, it just helps with aiming more, why is a kickstand different than stabilizers? What about using a crossbow instead? if you are ok with people using a clicker to help with draw length, a crossbow basically does the same thing, except better. You see, it is all about scale. This isn't just sophistry either. If i recall correctly, olympics swimmers can't use high tech swimwear. clearly your "Each one requires a specific and different skill set" therefore any gadget is ok as long as skill is still involved argument does not apply universally.

[@NUSensei]

Crossbow is a competitive division in World Archery. As with all sports, there are rules and regulations, and it is a competitive sport where people can shoot better than others using the same equipment. A hypothetical kickstand would be impractical for a bow, but in the spirit of the comment (in the same way modern shooting sport has this), we would come to expect that shooters will still distinguish themselves in skill through shot execution, but with the score gap being much closer. The swimwear example was controversial because people with the high-tech suits were competing against swimmers who didn't have them. It became an issue of haves vs. have-nots. If there was a separate event or classification that ONLY uses these suits, then we'd again see the direct comparison of skill between athletes. A good competition is one where the participants are able to distinguish themselves in meeting the objective. As long as rules and regulations clearly promote an equal playing field, it is valid. Whether it is fun to watch or do is a different matter.

[@randomnobody660]

Thanks for the information. i was not aware of the reason why swimsuits were banned. As for the rest, I agree with the level playing field one, thou i would argue a "good" competition has to half more than just that. Again, to take things to the extreme, i would say for example aiming a crossbow on a stand to shoot at a relative close range is not a good sport even thou it does provide a even playing field, and those better at aiming will do better. Now if i were to define what i consider to be a "good" competition, i do think spectator value matters, especially when it is an olympic sport, which i believe is more than just a competition to see who is better at something very specific. These games originally played to please gods should have entertainment values, and since very often people associate national pride or are otherwise become quite invested in things they normally do not care about, i feel like the feat should seem at first sight impressive too (it would be quite woeful if, say, the US had more medals than anybody else because their team won all categories of staring contests). (I think you will agree with me a staring contest, or a drinking contest for that matter, takes some skills, can be done on a even playing field, and still be a bad competition, at least for an olympic game.) I do not mean to say that olympic archery as it is now is such a bad competition, rather my point was really about that i do NOT feel (while the original poster seems to) that it is equally absurd to suggest a sport should have different rules than to suggest a soldier should not use everything he can to survive and accomplish his mission.

[@rodrigoamattei]

Leaving aside that I was referring to sniper in a competition scenario (yes, it exists) and not on the soldier in a mission scenario, that was only an example in order to make a point. The thing is, and if you have ever shot a bow you’d know it, one of the hardest aspect of archery is to hit a target that is far away. If you have a good instructor, basically anyone can hit a close target with a bare bow with maybe a year of training, but to hit a target at 70m away consistently, even with all the gadgets of an Olympic recurve, you need years, some times more than 10 years, and even then you may never get to be good enough to be competitive in an international level, without the gadgets it would simply be impossible. What they did in an Olympic competition was getting one of the hardest aspects of archery and turned that into a sport. Since it’s more entertaining to see people hitting the target than missing it most of the times, they allowed the use of sights. Witch by the way are optional, the competition actually is “freestyle recurve”. I’m from Brasil, and here we have project where our national team brought native-americans (who are the best bare bow shooters I’ve ever seen) to train Olympic archery, and even they, in the Olympic competition setting, have to use all the gadgets available in order to consistently hit the target at 70m

[@randomnobody660]

Forgive me for the misunderstanding then, and thnx for the info. The biggest problem I see with this argument you present is that you are starting with the assumption that the target is always 70m away. Of course it is hard to hit a target far away, that goes without saying, but exactly HOW far the target is is always up for debate. I do not see any inherent flaws with an archery competition where people shoot without clickers at say 60 or 50 meters away. If we were to go back to the sniper analogy, imo the main reason that analogy does not stand is because sniper rifles existed with a scope before the competition came about, whether bows did not have stabilizers and clickers prior to the competition. This rests on our concept of what is normal. I would argue most people's concept of the most generic sniper rifle includes a scope whether most people's concept of a generic bow does not include stabilizers not clickers. Since i would argue similarly most people's concept of a pistol does not include a scope, asking archers to remove stabilizers from their bow is like asking shooters to remove scopes for their pistols, both are perfectly reasonable. On that note, your argument for stabilizers is akin to a gunner saying it's not realistic to hit a target from more than 40 meters away without addons, to which I will also ask, why not move the target close then. Once again, there;s nothing wrong with having a competition where people use stabilizers, just as there is nothing wrong with a pistol competition that allow scopes, but asking for one without either addon is not absurd, and the discussion is not trivial; it is not at all like asking for a sniper's scope to be removed. Is a sniper without a scope even still a sniper or does it just become a high powered very accurate rifle?

[@ashravenpb]

With a firearm, there is a line of sight that starts at you eye, moves through the sight, and ends at the target. This line intersects with the trajectory of the bullet and that is where your sight is sighted to. At any other distance your shot will be either above or below the target. With a bow, this is amplified since the arrow will have much more drop than a bullet. That is why many bows have pin sights with 3-5 pins for different distances. its because each pin is only useful for one set distance.

[@JarlSeamus]

An arrow actually has the exact same drop as a bullet. It's a function of gravity. All objects fall at a rate of 32 feet/second Squared. The difference is a bullet travels exponentially faster. For example, say an arrow is fired at a target and it takes it 1 second to get there. (arbitrarily 500 feet) Gravity will cause 32 feet of drop in the projectile over the course of 1 second. A bullet fired at the same target will get there in a fraction of that time, so the amount of drop from gravity will likewise be a small fraction of the arrows.

[@Eagles_Eye]

SSniper14 PB to add to the other guy, an arrow actually jumps up away from the bow before it comes down to where you were aiming. You don't aim it up to compensate for the drop. At first the arrow will actually fly higher than where you were aiming. For example at close range you would actually aim far below the horizontal point of the arrow otherwise you would hit to high due to the jump, at a certain point the arrow will hit at the exact height the bow was. And any distance after that you do have to compensate for drop and at that point the arrow drops really really quick unlike a bullet. Edit The higher the bow draw weight the flatter the trajectory. I got a 35# falco storm it has a rather fast arrow but it still jumps the arrow +- 60cm higher than the straight horizontal aim point at a distance of 18m I don't know exactly at what distance my arrow actually hits dead center horizontally but my guess is around 25m before I compensate for drop, now I actually compensate down because of the jump. Add to that I don't hold the arrow horizontal on my normal draw due to my anchor point so it adds another 20cm to the compensation downwards If ( I don't) if I had to use gap my arrowtip actually hits the floor below the target to hit the bullseye on the target

[@Ildarioon]

" Gravity will cause 32 feet of drop in the projectile over the course of 1 second. " The drop is 16 feet not 32.

[@JarlSeamus]

Go back and check your Physics lectures from school. Earth Gravity, denoted g, is g = 9.80665 m/s2 (32.1740 ft/s2) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity 32 Feet per second (squared)

[@Ildarioon]

Yes, which means the downward speed after one second is 32 feet/second. Which means the average speed over that 1 second was only 16 feet/second so it dropped 16 feet over that second. Go and check back your physics lectures from school, the second SQUARED is quite important and not to be put in brackets.

[@clericneokun]

Speaking from personal experience (i.e observing/communicating with other people at the local ranges I visit), all these barebow vs freestyle arguments often disappear once a person actually gains enough experience in archery regardless of what discipline they decided to follow. The concept of "consistency" and "variables" within the context of archery are sadly things that people really have to experience themselves before they realize if they truly knew what the hell they were talking about when they initially brought up those arguments.

[@Ezullof]

Did you even watch the video? The problem is exactly the same for a reflex sight as for a laser sight. In fact it's even worse because an archer cannot look directly in the device, which is required for reflector sights.

[@TITANia69420]

Foockin Laysa soights

[@Wolvenworks]

**chucks EMP nade**

[@thetruth9803]

TITANia o

[@mateomoncada7402]

Thatcher throwing emp nade “ yeet!”

[@Sketchr_]

Fucking brilliant 😂

[@kanck7909]

fucking laser sight

[@sanimacailer2756]

"Try it with your phone camera" oh god I can already see all the idiots in the comments claiming they can hold it perfectly still

[@neitherlink6612]

Sanima Cailer not perfectly steady, but I hold it pretty steady to the point I’m pretty sure I’m doing something wrong.

[@zttzwamdable]

Must be damn old phones that freeze when u open camera

[@bultvidxxxix9973]

@@neitherlink6612 A shaking video can be stabilized in software. To simplify things, the camera app could only show you the middle portion of the actual recorded image. If you shake your phone, the App will calculate how to move the displayed section to minimize the changes to the previous image. Plus some detection if you actually want to move the camera slowly. If you are interested, you can have a look at the VirtualDub Plugin Deshaker. That can take a shaking video and stabilize it with pretty incredible results.

[@Waltham1892]

Next Week: NUSensei reviews Win and Win's 30 megawatt Laser! Not only does it mark the bull's eye, it disintegrates off target arrows so every shot it a 10!

[@DB.KOOPER]

I have no idea how I found your videos, but it's so weird to hear you say people are being so rude and critical. I'm not a big archer (I'm an avid shooter/marksman though) but your videos are so very informative and filled with greatly explained concepts etc. Keep up the great work mate, your videos are definately making me want to go try my hand at some more modern archery.

[@dumboy886]

One thing I considered using a laser sight for is to help spot a beginner archer with visual impairment when you don't have access to a tactile sight.

[@RobynHarris]

I thought it was interesting that you used a graphic of Marvel’s Hawkeye. I am not a follower of the comic, but I do enjoy his character in the movies. I assume that his fictional, high tech bowsight within the movies employs some sort of range detection to target, along with active guidance of the arrow while in flight. Essentially, a fire and forget weapon. Hawkeye selects a target, has the bow show the target to the arrow, and then releases. Really just a small version of how a guided missile works today. Tracking a locked target through some part of the EM spectrum, and the fletching using active guidance fin technology to intercept the target. Given the level of miniaturization we have developed, such a weapon is probably practically achievable today. If you were willing to have a twenty million dollar bow and two million dollar arrows. Thanks for your series, very enjoyable.

[@Kahoko]

Yep. Breathing and even heartbeat will make your aim point move. Experienced shooters (guns/archers) know how to compensate for those natural deviations.

[@sciverzero8197]

don't forget muscle shake. Muscles don't squeeze perfectly, and even if they did, perfectly consistent levels of pressure wouldn't necessarily be desired, as anything that alters the aim externally, needs to be manually compensated for as well. This is why you shake more with the 'deathgrip' than the loose one. With a loose grip, the bow is being controlled mostly by the hand that is drawing, and the pivot point is at the bow grip. The shake of the draw hand will contribute much less deviation than the grip hand, at the same pivot (for geometric reasons). However with a death grip, the bow is being controlled almost entirely by the grip hand, meaning any deviation due to heart, breath, or muscle tension will be amplified. And yes, experienced shooters can compensate for jitter, but not 100%. You would need a shooting vice mounted solidly to a concrete floor and even then footsteps in the room might still shake the bow to some extent. Having tried laser sights myself.... I found them useless in any kind of free aim. Only when using a rest did the sight become visibly stable enough to get any idea whether it was even on the target. Lasers are overrated and usually a waste of money... lots and lots of money...

[@SirLagsAlot2361]

Kahoko ol

[@christianlequoix7473]

Sciver Zero I have a green laser that I do use proficiently. I use it to night hunt raccoons and other critters. It leaves a large green spot, that I can aim with by centering it in my peep.

[@ninponighthawk]

Kahoko and some of the best trained long range shooters train to shoot between heart beats and to hold their breath before shooting. But this is not common, most (99%) shooters will never achieve this level of mastery.

[@Ezullof]

Like it is said in the video, experienced archers don't "compensate", they mitigate the natural shake. You can't really compensate the shake, but you can know how and when to release the arrow.

[@nathanhalim7378]

I have never been or (probably) will be interested in doing archery but I am drawn in by your channel by your style, content and overall maturity to matters. Keep up the good work !

[@demopem]

I'm a (target) pistol shooting instructor and even though I have never held a bow, I'm fascinated by your videos. It's interesting to see how much apparently completely different shooting disciplines have in common. I struggle with the same problems with beginners; getting them to accept that they can't hold perfectly still, they can't even stand still. (Try it; your body rocks slightly back and forth no matter what you do.) The most common beginner problem is that they try to force the shot when "it looked perfect", instead of focusing on the trigger action and sights and just let the shot happen. The fact that they must focus on the sights and not the target comes as a surprise to many as well.

[@jayeisenhardt1337]

I think about standing completely still I heard somewhere you have to become dead weight and that goes against your balance and makes you heavier. I haven't tried it but might look into those people that play statues and stand still all day. Maybe lowering you own center of gravity?

[@demopem]

Not still enough. Even the "statues" are not standing completely still. It might look like it from a distance, but it you'd look really closely you'd see that there's a small rocking movement, just a few millimeters. This, together with the equally tiny movement in your arm (which you can't hold perfectly still either), is very apparent when you're aiming sights at a target 25 meters away. The problem some shots have is to just accept it. It might cause them to "freeze" and not take the shot soon enough, and/or force it with a jerking movement which ruins the shot completely. But, as you say, there are techniques to *minimize* your movements, but it will never be perfectly still. A great shot (Olympic level) once said "A [pistol] shot who is perfectly still is dead." ;)

[@BennyCFD]

At the competition level it is exactly the same. Shot for shot consultancy. Even for combat. the same grip, draw, sight picture sight alignment, trigger pull, every time for consistent hits. Same thing for archery. Pistols are customized to minimize the human factor and maximize consistency. Grips, trigger and trigger pull weight, The slide ported, the barrel magna ported, compensators etc. Archers have all their stuff to do the same stuff for them.

[@NGorso1]

I just found your channel and :Archery, combat wing, war thunder, tropico 3&4, japanese language(war thunder tanks and LJTS). You basically manage to cover all my interests, how could I miss your channel till now.

[@AJ-kj1go]

I appreciate how you respond to those kinds of comments with real answers without getting defensive. A lot of youtubers don't realize that people who leave snarky comments are often actual fans of the content, even if they express it somewhat strangely.

[@MajWinters100]

This reminds me of RE4 where Leon's weapons have laser sight but the programmers made sure that Leon's aim wasn't perfectly steady, thus if you left Leon on lock-on mode, he would shift his aim, even leaving his target at times. Really smart, now that I think about it.

[@zedre7633]

Andrey Paes I always loved that detail in RE4. And having a shoulder-stock to anchor the weapon makes a huge difference, which is also true irl. Though Krauser can keep his aim pretty damn still with his laser-sight bow. lol

[@ForeverMasterless]

Joke's on them, I played the Wii version =P

[@narxes]

Tengu well what do you expect from a mutated ex soldier with superstrength.

[@0ldnslo373]

your theory is spot on but from my practical experiance its a different story. i hunt feral pigs at night with a 60lb recurve and if you have ever tried aiming a bow at night with no sight picture to aquire your target believe me its a waste of time, so i run a lazer sighted in at 25 metres anything over that distance you just hold high but i make sure my shots are never much more than i am sighted in at.Works a treat. i find the best method is to slowly drop the lazzer on to the kill zone and release straight away dont try to hold the red dot on the target for any length of time, Like you pointed out the lazer wil move all over the place and if you dont take the shot quickly its all over Enjoyed your content, Cheers.

[@Vinnay94]

I noticed FPSRussia shoots the 44 magnum and 500S&W where he raises the gun, lets it drop until he gets sight picture and BANG! recoil jolts the gun up, let the gun drop slowly until sight picture, BANG! REPEAT. This is due to the fact that a Revolver especially one chambered in 44 Magnum or 500 S&W is gonna be front Heavy thus there's gonna be gun sway. It wouldn't surprise me that Revolvers are the reason people used to shoot Instinctively aka Point Shooting. So yes, the way you shoot your 60lb Recurve with Laser is definitely ideal. Compound Bow would be more forgiving.

[@michaelseabrooks9286]

9 dislikes from guys saying "EFF YOU I CAN KEEP IT STEADY AND HIT THE LASER DOT EVERY TIME IM PERFECT!" 9 more dislikes from guys who called him on it and tried it, came back salty they couldn't shoot perfect, and disliked out of rage 1 dislike from a guy watching the video upside down and thought he liked it.

[@joelow6086]

You are absolutely correct. It is impossible to keep the bow arm perfectly still. The archer's shooting form is what counts. Thank you for your video.

[@rodneyletts9380]

I am cross dominant right handed and left eye dominant, with only 50% vision in my right eye. My left eye vision is perfect when using glasses to correct for astigmatism. Tried several conventional sights, cheap to expensive but with no success. Fitted a laser sight, fine tuned it. Bingo hitting the target every time, sure it shows up shake more but it is in effect a lever with the ratio of draw length to target distance. (This is a good indication off what I need to correct). This ratio does no change except for distance range. I can compensate for range easily. Without the laser sight I could not do archery. So I feel it is very useful under these circumstances.

[@rodneyletts9380]

However the amount of shake is still the same regardless of sight type the laser shows it up more clearly so it can help you to compensate for it as you have better optical feedback. In my case and opinion a laser sight is a great help. Your argument is fundamentally flawed.

[@Waterflame]

Found your channel because I'm playing an archer in an RPG, and wanted to learn the proper terms and stuff so I don't sound like a moron. I used to do archery about 30 years ago, so I knew some stuff, but your videos have been a huge help in reminding me of the things I'd forgotten!

[@NUSensei]

+Waterflame Anything more you want to know, I'll try to cover it.

[@daniellebranca8177]

I have no idea why you showed up on my feed this morning, but I'm glad you did. Thank you for the info.

[@OliverSalzburg]

I have no interest in shooting bows but I love your videos. Cool stuff! Very insightful

[@kynaston1474]

This is great. I kind of expected this result but having that laser mounted really showed off that sway. Very interesting stuff.

[@djunforgettable]

I was about to order a laser online for a bow, to use when I go to the range, for recreational purposes, UNTIL I WATCHED YOUR VERY INFORMATIVE VIDEO. You spoke about SEVERAL PROBLEMS I'M HAVING, & IMPORTANT THINGS I'M DOING WRONG. THANK YOU

[@brianheaton5521]

I dunno squat about archery, I'm just getting into it, but could listen to this guy all day.

[@mortiusvicimus8901]

Now you my friend are an instructor and your video along with Survive Lilly's are phenomanal!

[@hunter88J]

AGAIN always super informative and super detailed. Your descriptions are beautiful

[@SurajGrewal]

Better to have a 5wt laser and blind the target before killing it.

[@treeguy5916]

Exactly what I thought, turns out so did ODNR and it's illegal.

[@youngmorgan6799]

500mw is enough to do that

[@nazarderkach9320]

Yeah, war crimes!

[@thsscapi]

I'm surprised anyone thinks you can remove muscle shaking entirely. Our muscles do not work that way. A good example is the draw weight mechanism in the AccuBow you used in the video. You adjust the draw weight by rotating a dial, which presumably stretches the string and *locks* it in place. This string is now perfectly fixed at that draw weight, and you can draw and release the string repeatedly without affecting draw weight. Muscles in our arm, however, do not have this "locking" mechanism. Keeping your arm in a fixed position is a constant effort from your body. You continuously supply energy to the muscles to maintain that position. Your arm *will* move if there is any variation anywhere in the muscle or the energy supply, and there definitely is. All this, and I haven't even mentioned the rest of the body, or breathing, or the bow.

[@tysonprice]

This was a very informative video for me, please continue making great content!

[@jaketheripper7385]

Laser sight on a bowfishing bow is actually quite common. I have one bopping around in my bowfishing gear somewhere. I always forget to put it on my bow when I take it out in the boat. Although it's only useful in lower light conditions and/or in water that's not overly cloudy

[@jaketheripper7385]

Laser sights are actually very common in the bowfishing community... It's actually one of the only applications within archery where a laser sight has some genuine practical use

[@millitron3666]

About the visibility of lasers: I have tried several commercially-available laser sights, and in broad daylight, none are visible much past 20 yards. It especially depends on the color and material of the target. Bright, smooth, reflective things like white paper work best; dull, rough, dark-colored things work worst. So you might be able to see the laser dot on a sheet of paper at even 30 yards, but it will be tough to get it on that paper in the first place, because you can't see it on the ground around it. Inside or in low light conditions, like dusk or a cloudy day however, I haven't actually found the distance where you can no longer see a commercial laser. I've seen it at least 100 yards away easily. I'd guess the limit is somewhere around 300-400 yards. Which you could push even further with a telescopic sight.

[@1968CudaGuy]

Hold on loosely but don't let go.... That song just popped in my head while you mentioned Olympic archers..

[@joecichlid]

Mall ninja, a term I haven't heard in years. Love it!

[@musikSkool]

To borrow from the rifle world, it all comes down to good "points of contact". For a typical bow you only have the forward hand and the cheek hand. A crossbow allows you to shoulder it for more solid points of contact. A typical maximum range "off hand" with a rifle is 200 yards, but for a pistol, maybe 50 yards because outstretched arms are less stable than a shoulder. If you crouch and put your elbow on your knee you get even stronger support. The prone and benchrest positions increase it even more. The most you can do is where you are in the benchrest or prone position and don't even shoulder the gun, because during recoil your shoulder moves more inconsistently than "free recoiling" the gun. I would love to see a shoulder stock on a non-crossbow. You still have to hold the full draw, but there is a firm shoulder support that completely avoids the string but allows you to take more accurate shots than a normal bow.

[@masterfubar23]

I thoroughly enjoy these videos even though I don't shoot bows. Great vids.

[@joshuacarter9988]

Love your vids very helpful. I'm pretty much living off of deer meat right now as main source of protein. And now that rifle season is over my bow and I need to have some real time together your vids help alot

[@fearofchicke]

Just to clarify laser sights on firearms are used for quick target acquisition in close quarters situations. It’s a nice tool to have if you’re not running an optic that that performs well in close quarters.

[@victorbuzzo7131]

Fookin laser soights

[@AsheCraftingCorner]

I would love to see a video about multi arrow shots..2,3 or even 5 arrows at once

[@ninjafruitchilled]

Haha, that would be quite funny.

[@ninponighthawk]

Demolition ranch already did this

[@SoulSin]

BTW, in case anyone is wondering why no one really uses laser sights is because its against the rules. Chapter 11 of the rule book state that you can't use any sort of eletronic or eletrical device equipment at any part of the bow. You also can't use any equipment that may distract other competitors (humans are no kittens alright, but a moving red point you don't control must be annoying as hell).

[@NUSensei]

Remember that most archers don't shoot under conditions controlled by World Archery rules.

[@SoulSin]

Indeed, thats a good point.

[@ivankovchannel0172]

7:35 ... Nanosuit ? NUSensei, you rock ! I'm subscribed now !

[@penny1210wl]

That’s easy, put a laser sight inside the arrow and use a transparent field point. The arrow might not hit the target, but the arrow is guaranteed to hit the laser dot.

[@NUSensei]

Even that doesn't work. The arrow doesn't fly straight; it arcs. This would only be true in very short distances, but once you get past that, the arrow is no longer pointing at the target.

[@yaldabaoth2]

Can you built a tripod from the extenders? Why not go the extra-extra mile and build a makeshift ballista? Certainly increases accuracy.

[@raver377]

well they can be more accurate then archers. since they are ancored to the ground they have one stable point and most of the time they only rotate on 2 axes. both are things that would make them more stable compared to bows/archers. but i think the biggest 2 factors would be 1. the type of ballista used 2. who build it. some ballistas have a higher fire/reload rate which most of the time sacrifices accuracy. and as i said who builds the ballista would probably be the biggest impact on the accuracy. if its made by an expert in their craft its going to be pretty accurate. if im taking the last 2 points out of consideration id say a ballista would potentialy be more accurate then any archer simply for the facts that they are grounded and not free floating and they rotate on 2 axes at most

[@DeputatKaktus]

When target shooting handguns I was taught to break off and take fresh aim if I didn’t get the shot out within three seconds, five seconds tops. Made perfect sense to me...if I held it for longer, I was always WAY off the mark. I do the same with my camera. Yes, there are optical stabilizers and all that, but those can only do so much. Unless you use a tripod or a crazy expensive wearable stabilizer rig, you will have a certain degree of camera shake both at long focal lengths and if you hold a camera for an extended period of time. That’s a fact. Some things can be compensated for, but there are limits. Besides, depending on the country you are in, any sights that illuminate or mark a target (such as a laser) are illegal to possess outside the military or law enforcement. If you are caught with that, people will want to have a conversation with you, and it will take place in a location you don’t want to be in. So even IF laser sighted bows were the best invention since sliced bread and worked phantastically well, they‘d still be illegal in some countries.

[@x3roxide]

@NUSensei one of the sights I own for my compound bow has a gun rail attachment. It allows for any gun sights which use that particular gun rail (picatinny i think it's called) to be used on the bow. For fun I put a laser sight, works only for a single distance and the adjustments which work fine for other sights (like paralex scopes and red dot sights) do not work well with the laser sight. The sight is called "hha optimizer lite plus scope mount"

[@Fudmottin]

Is there a kickstarter for that nano suite you mentioned?

[@phaphachboy]

I put a foregrip on my bow

[@Clark_808]

Thats nothing i got a grenade launcher and a bayonet on mine

[@Nanorisk]

Might as well get a bullpup bow? jk

[@joesmith4421]

I got a longer barrel on mine increased accuracy for fun it shoots ballista bolts for damage lol

[@waterflowzz]

phaphachboy stop sexually assaulting your bow.

[@iSubZero100]

Oh yeah? I have drum magazine on mine.

[@rphilpotjr]

I have a laser sight (pointer) on my recurve hunting bow. If you shoot a recurve you know that, unlike a compound bow, speed is critical. The longer you hold a recurve bow drawn the shakier you get. Because I'm not looking through a sight or scope, I find that the laser helps me get the shaft on target quicker.

[@rogerh6702]

Hi I knew someone who had a laser sight and got to have a go on it on an indoor range at 18m. I experienced all the things you mentioned with regards to stabilization and the dot moving everywhere. It was super distracting and made shooting much harder. What you don't realise until you try it in a busy club, is how annoying it is for everyone else on the range! Everyone's eyes are drawn to this crazy dot flying around my target. It pretty much stopped everyone else from shooting and I had to wait till everyone else had finished shooting each end. Totally impractical but it was really fun to have a go with.

[@nitrodavid]

raises an interesting point, has anybody used a steady camera rig to hold a bow steady automatically?

[@Chraan]

You mean a Ballista?

[@nitrodavid]

well steadycam is a named brand, but any kind of camera stabilizer mount used for large heavy video camera's should be overkill for archery.

[@joedaniels4646]

This was a phenomenal video!!!! Thanks for sharing it, and God bless you!

[@cherminatorDR]

Thumbs up for the nanosuit reference

[@theaberrantdon]

Nu, this is hilarious! I know exactly which comment you are talking about. I love that you made a video making fun of the guy!

[@Spyduck]

This is certainly true. Games make you think that a laser is the holy grail of accuracy, but anyone who has fired ANY laser-assisted gun or simply just held a laser pointer will know that the rate of deviation can be great even at short distances. At greater distances, that little jerk in movement can easily deviate your aim anywhere from 10cm to a few metres out.

[@MrTigerlore]

Could you make a video where you go over the differences between fletching and felching?

[@bullseye6969]

Most important point of all. Laser Light does not get influenced by Windy Air, humidity, angle, momentum of any Projectile because its a Light Particle. but Bullets, Arrows and any Physical Projectile thrown in atmosphere have to deal with all those stuff all the time which Greatly influence Projectiles destination.

[@philipmartin2123]

Also the fact that lasers or any form of "projecting light" style sights like say a flash light(just as example) are significantly harder to see when the light around it is also significantly bright.

[@danman6612]

Of course there's always going to be shake; your heart is beating which causes your blood to flow and your body to move.

[@lucamarialanza7319]

Perfect video, clear like glass!

[@leonaldobrum]

Once again, an excellent explanation from a true expert. 👍

[@jasonarmstrong5750]

something like this is what a gun enthusiast would call a "Range Toy"

[@ninponighthawk]

Jason Armstrong there are some very limited uses for a laser for a firearm. Such as low light environment, like a home invasion. But beyond that...yep just a fancy toy.

[@paulmullins4676]

The new bow sights with a builtin range finder that automatically adjusts your pin placement may be the newest technology that helps the archer.

[@musikSkool]

Tactical special ops snipers that sometimes use crossbows for silent night operations just use a full scope on their compound or crossbow. The scope is range adjustable and after they estimate range, or have a spotter call out the range, then they turn the dial to tune the range of the sight.

[@skeezixcodejedi]

Another excellent and entertaining video!

[@headbanger1220]

hi just wanna give a bit of production advice, at like 4:20 and beyond where your aiming the sight at the knob, i would have loved to seen a picture in picture of you holding the bow, to see how still at looks in comparison to the shake of the laser

[@angargoy7181]

The video is very well what happens is that this technology is changing, we are some people who are developing new bows that are powered by gas and that surely the arc manufacturers like hoyt are studying for the near future. a greeting

[@MrArthurGiles]

Straight question: If there are 3 archers on the shooting line and more than one has a red dot on, or near, the centre of gold, how do you know which one is yours?

[@keithmoriyama5421]

Laser sights do work on crossbows. A vertical bow is like a hand gun. A crossbow is like a rifle. I do use a red dot on my Oneida 'leverage' (mechanically assisted recurve) bow which is a huge advantage over a traditional sight. The down side is it is fixed for a single distance.

[@remuscrux4791]

What i sometimes do to train/correct my steadiness is mounting a Laserpointer on the tip of my stabiliser to visualise how much im wiggling around

[@waltermcmurry7686]

I would find it interesting how much stabilizers improved your ability to paint a target with these laser sights. Might make an interesting video for the future, more so for teaching about stabilizers (although you covered that a little in another video) than laser sights. Thanks for your videos.

[@pikafoto-medieservice7360]

Fun experiment - your comments on stabilisers made me think: it would be interesting to use the laser to show effect on stability with and without stabilisers?

[@NUSensei]

This is already done as a training and diagnostic tool.

[@TurtleGamers1]

Do people forget that medieval archers mostly fired in volleys, going for an overwhelming quantity of arrows rather than trying to make sure that every single arrow hits?

[@japeking1]

That is a terrific experiment/demo. But shining onto a flat target circle with high contrast would have been so much better.

[@mistahar.8898]

love the videos, makes me want to learn archery even more, sigh, I can only afford archery in games lols, keep it up sensei

[@FoxDren]

you could always join a local club and use club equipment. I use club equipment with the exception of my finger tab and arm guard

[@mistahar.8898]

apparently the nearest club at our place is 3 hours away and plus, sigh, the family is financially ehhh average from this third world country

[@oscarmedina1303]

There are very affordable starter bows on Amazon.

[@oscarmedina1303]

Also check out the bows at Lancaster Archery dot com

[@shogenx]

Its funny I'm photographer but a few years ago I had crippling anxiety I asked the doctor for help cause I could steady my camera and do my job he said ill proscribe beta blocks, I enquired what it was he simply said if you were in the Olympics you doing shooting or targeting you would be banned from shooting because it can reduce heart beats and make it easier to remain steady, as well as reduce the inherent physical effects of anxiety, it did help me in the end but its interesting watching this and it made me think about that conversation

[@Lo-tf6qt]

You don't need a laser when you're a longbowmen who served in King Henry V's army

[@x3roxide]

you also do not need to be that accurate when you're in a group of 7000 aiming at a group of roughly 10000 who are funneled through a valley and getting bogged down in the mud.

[@Lo-tf6qt]

Matthew Briffa hahaha , that was a great victory for the english at Crecy

[@seonaelizabethcoster8465]

Shix Lo The Crusading Slav Ahhh. Hello to my fellow History Nerds. So nice to know that I'm not the only one who knows about these battles, and the facts of them.

[@Nanorisk]

Neither do modern Olympic athletes.

[@therealshino4607]

Kill the knights. They’re stuck. I enjoy Aigincourt

[@brianheaton5521]

"Freak'n laser beams, on their heads."

[@moonlightplayer-ht6ho]

fookin' laser sights

[@northstar5240]

Just here for your fantastic information bro

[@alzoron]

I'm not an archer by any means but it seems to me that if anything a laser sight might help give you an idea if your form is off but really wouldn't give you any idea of where the arrow will actually land. Until of course you've developed good form at which point you probably don't need the sight anymore and it would probably hurt your accuracy at that point by trying to rely on it.

[@timogul]

Huh. It sounds like you *could* build a useful laser sight for a bow, it would just need to be fairly complex. To make a laser sight that would be useful on a bow, you'd apparently need three things: 1. Basic stabilization. Camera's have this, a free-floating element that reduces shake. This would keep the laser fairly stable even if the bow was shaking a bit. For a quality archer, this _should_ result in a stable laser dot. 2. Automatic range-finding and pitch control. This would be a complex motor-driven and computer controlled element, but basically it could combine a laser range finder with a small pivot motor to angle the laser pointer relative to distance. Instead of being fixed at 90 degrees to the bow, it would tilt slightly downward the further out the target is, means that if you were shooting at a very distant target and bullseye'd the laser, then the sight would be tilted slightly downwards relative to the bow, causing the bow to be tilted upward to compensate, and the arrow to drop onto the target. 3. There are two lights. Use two lasers, one above the other, so that you can tell whether there are angle issues. If the lasers aren't perfectly vertical, then you're at an angle. Now obviously you'd need to be able to see these lasers, so they'd need to be very bright or you'd be using special optics, and they wouldn't be perfect in all conditions, but I think a tool like that could greatly improve accuracy for mid-skill archers.

[@NUSensei]

#2 is really where the problem lies. Since the archer has to point the bow upwards to arc the arrow onto the target, you need a way to configure the sight to be on target.

[@timogul]

Right, but that's what I mean about a range finder and a computerized rotational motor. Like I'm not sure the actual angles needed, but let's just say that at a range of 60m you'd need to pitch the bow upward by 14 degrees to hit the target. the laser rangefinder would know that the target it was pointed at was 60m away, it would know that you needed to be at 14 degrees off level, so it would pitch the laser downward to -14 degrees, so that if you point the laser at the target, then the bow would be pointed upward 14 degrees. If you then shifted the bow to point at a target 40m away, it would quickly re-adjust to 8 degrees. There would be a slight lag, but I bet they could get it under half a second. I imagine you'd have to manually dial in settings for things like draw weight, each archer would need to calibrate the bow to where they'd want it to be, but if they did, it should provide an accurate guide, I think.

[@M60E3MG]

I like your comment that a laser is not a replacement for good form. The same is true for firearms. If you jerk the trigger, the laser's no help.

[@Vinnay94]

Same goes for Compound Bows. Punching the trigger creates a bad release.

[@grapple99]

Really diggin the detail within your videos .... keep it up ..... stay on target haha

[@davidharasymowicz8707]

How about a red-dot sight? Like a holographic one

[@ber2chee]

TAS SABO Gen2 Tactical Sight - This what I hunt with, and I have them on both my bows.

[@NUSensei]

Curious: what would you say are some the possible problems someone using a red-dot sight will have with a bow? It's not something I've touched.

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

the rules say no electronics . a red dot would be the same as a pin or fiberoptic or like a compound scope

[@ber2chee]

The downsides seem to be a preference with hunting situations, like rain on the lens or a bow falling from a 20-foot tree stand and breaking the lens. I personally have not had any real-world issues with inclement weather and I feel any sight would be negatively affected by a fall from a Stand. The upside is I am able to receive feedback of torque and hold at the point of aim due to the fact that the dot and aiming triangle need to align upon release. I am able to hold a 1 and a half inch group at 20 yards and a 2 and a half inch group at 30 yards with a hunting set configuration. I personally will not harvest a deer any further than the 30-yard distance.

[@ber2chee]

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[@erumaaro6060]

one could in theory use an inclinable laser in order to adjust the angle according to the shooting distance or maybe even two those lasers from powertools that use refraction to reate a "laser-line" in order to create a cross shape, but it would still only be an indicator where your bow is pointing and thus equivalent to an ironsight that can only be seen in the dark...

[@patrichausammann]

First of all, thank you NuSensei for this great channel. I appreciate your work very much. Maybe I've got a silly question to you, because I have just started to learn Hiragana and Kanji. My question is, if I understand the Katakana word ヌ"nu" right as "death" (Nu) , I would assume that "Nu - senei" means "Teacher of death/of killing" (> The one who teaches to kill ("minus/without me"/I'm below or under earth) = "death" > « die »as a Englisch verb, which has a relation to the verb "kill" ("to terminate before the official life expectancy"). At least, this seems to me to be a good "pony". I also thought that the character " メ " looks like a cross, or like an "x" on a map, which symbolizes, that "there" is something (treasure^^). And if we speak about the point we say the "treasure" is "here" or "there"{(t)here}^^. But look at a map in a train station, bus station or on a fair to day. The spot where you are, is market with a point, dot or an "x" (ex) or cross. Also think about the verb "to be" in Latin is "EXISTERE"(Lat. inf.) > "(EX)-ISTERE" > "(to) be here" (>exist

[@NUSensei]

I'm not sure what your question is. It appears that you've misunderstood the characters. ヌ is katakana, not kanji. It is a character in the character set primarily used for loanwords, and does not carry a meaning or "word". The kanji for "death" is 死, pronounced "shi".

[@patrichausammann]

Thank you very much, for this correction, I changed it to "Katakana" to correct my mistake. And thank you for the right form and pronounciation of the Kanji word 死 "shi"! I'm a bloody beginner in Japanes. It might be therefor, that I haven't known these characters before. ^^ But the idea of my interpretation wasn't too bad.^^ And when you said it is a loanword it makes also more sense to me. But if I'm honest, both character remind me to a man below surface ヌ Katakana and 死. Very very interesting, when I compare it with the chinese expression 死开 (Sǐ kāi), which was translated to "dead open". The character 死 was translated with dead, die, pass out, deadly, extremly, rigide inflexible, implacable or impassable. I think that really helps me further in understanding the language shift.

[@erick001bc]

I do pretty good with my acog scope and tripod (for perfect shakiness), and of cousrse if any of the deer or practice targets get to nasty and close I have my bayonet attachment. Really great videos, learned a lot.

[@Cinimod105]

The problem with the sight working only for a certain distance can be solved by having the laser mounted on the arrow itself. This way, the laser works for any distance you fire, shouldn't it?

[@NaGromOne]

I would be interested in your thoughts on using a prism sight for very long shots.

[@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303]

Love Hollywood films that show two expert archers in combat splitting arrows 🤓

[@erikgranqvist3680]

Good video! Everyone thats done some shooting, know you cant hold anything totaly still freehand. On long range even lying down with a bipod, your shaking will effect the hit. The important thing is to let go of the shot (or arrow) the right moment.

[@ZionPattersonsprofile]

*Fooking Laser sights*

[@ToshioThunder]

@3:30 Didn't think I would spend my evening staring at NuSensei's knob...