Archery | Sights - What's the Difference?

[@lyon666]

Im in awe of your talent of teaching, even your 9yo videos are solid quality.

[@Kajerman]

Had my heart set on a Shibuya Ultima sight but then I got this great offer from another local archer. A whole Hoyt bow set with everything and a Sure Loc sight. Man, what a difference from shooting with a stupid Cartel sight that I was shooting with at the club. I'm quite new to the sport but I just wanted to let other new archers know that it's worth spending a bit more on your sight, cause those cheap sights are complete shit! (excuse my french). Everything comes loose and the adjustments are terrible. If you like the sport then I'd suggest saving up for a real sight. Either a mid-range or higher. If you are serious about the sport then I'd rather go for a great sight since it can last you nearly a lifetime. Sub to NUSensei. He gives good information and advice.

[@steliosdrz8570]

I was thinking of getting a cartel x-pert carbon right before seeing this video

[@nomadlong85]

Yay! Thanks for the simple sight adjustment tutorial. Ive just bought one, (here in England), well our version of them, was only a tenner. Your doing a great job buddy!

[@CyanSkies]

Great video. Very clear explanation of entry level and more expensive sights. You clearly know what you're talking about. Thanks for posting and sharing your knowledge!

[@andrewbond4353]

I have just gone back to target archery after a 10 year rest, each time I start archery I start with cheap sights but then change up to expensive sights after a few weeks this is so I appreciate the expensive sight more, start with intermediate equipment then build up replacing one part at a time this way you put together a bow that you like and thank you nu sense for your videos

[@IaconDawnshire]

I have a Cartel X-pert and I SO can't wait to upgrade it.

[@NUSensei]

The vertical bar determines how far you can put the sight up or down. This is particularly noticeable for longer distances with a lower poundage bow, which requires a significant trajectory. It's possible to move the bar down to get more sight settings, but that means less space to adjust for short range -- a problem when you shoot variable distances (e.g. competition rounds, field archery). Changing the extension also alters the available angle, but its mostly a weight/balance thing.

[@jdechrist]

awesome as always. just getting back into archery after many years. While much as stayed the same, the tech has changed only making things better. Maybe a video on how to setup a high quality sight and how to tune one would be helpful. Thank you again mate, bravo on some great videos!

[@dildorchan7289]

Your videos have been really helpful to me. Thanks for putting all the info I needed out there!

[@consume_vegetables]

I would recommend the Cartel Focus K sight (aluminum) for beginner. I love sights with micro adjustments and being able to adjust without loosening screws but the price point is just way beyond what i can afford at the moment.

[@roxonogueira]

This is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for the video! I just started opening both eyes so I don't blink during release. I can see the target clearly as well. But I was really unsure about the string position related to the sight. This was a good reference thanks! (Also, my instructor lent me an older x-pert sight that is already bent and doesnt move vertically that well)

[@MichaelAussie05]

This explained things perfectly thanks.

[@georgeemil3618]

My sight is an ink mark on a piece of masking tape. Yes, it's improved my vertical aim. For horizontal aim, I have to remember to line up my bowstring to my arrow point.

[@NUSensei]

There are three components: the sight block, the bar, and the part you have to screw onto the riser. Once you attach that last bit, all you have to do is slide the bar through and secure it with the large round knob.

[@Q-Bits8]

i got the same shibuya sight as you in black (but I shoot compound). It's a fantastic sight and I like it a lot more than the sights of Sure-Loc.

[@lestatdelioncourt2389]

Hi, I am looking for a new bow and your video is very usefull and go to the matter without any "sponsored" infos. I am looking for the Ultima but didn't know what's make the price but now I understand and even if I had some good result with my low end bow I think I will go for that Ultima as now I have the money for it. But I think it is more important when you shoot at long distances as one millimeter can do a real big difference, for low distances a mid range can do the job (except if you are at the Olympics's level :) ). Thanks for your video, I will look more of them to have an idea about my new Bow!

[@Treacherous_One]

I'm brand new to the Olympic discipline, but a long time and experienced compound target shooter. I took an 8 year hiatus and am just now getting back into the sport and trying some new things as well. One thing I noticed is that I don't see Toxonics sights like I used to. It appears they are still around but it just seems the company has lost it's edge in the target market. Any commentary on them? That said, both of my new rigs have Shibuya Ultimas. My old Hoyt Smoke still has my toxonics sight from back in the day. Thanks for your videos, by the way. They have been a huge help in pointing me in the right direction starting out with Olympic style shooting.

[@jackdumanat49]

I agree with this guy 100% and i experienced everything he said. I used to have a SF Axiom sight, it was pretty good but when I went up to 37~38 pounds draw weight it started dismantling itself. when I was able to save up, I went to buy a new sight. Got confused with the prices and mistakenly bought a shibuya ultima. honestly i'm not regretting that decision.

[@MrSandperson0]

@ 2:08, you're shooting with what looks like a blanket parallel to the shooting line. What is it used for? And thank you for all your videos!

[@NUSensei]

It's a metal advertising sign that was blown onto the field.

[@MrSandperson0]

LOL, and here i was thinking it was some kind of "shooting mat" for studying your shadow :-)

[@NUSensei]

It could be. It could also be the entrance to our secret underground indoor facility.

[@lapistolaphoto]

Great video. Very helpful. Thank you!

[@sevensamurai13]

Great video can you explain the different sizes and what there used for, or is there a best size for all around?

[@michaelholmes6152]

Could you go into the topic of Recurve Scopes, I understand you use a Titan scope... What is the good the bad and the ugly??? I have splashed out on the Spigarelli carbon slim sight and would like to hear about the scopes does and don’t Excellent video across the board... please keep it up

[@bonsaisamurai]

I use a hunting recurve because most of my shooting is in the bush on a foam target - just use one pin by removing or pushing the others down. Same deal as this - you are looking through it, it's a reference

[@redfoo8717]

Could you do a video on changing arrow nocks and arrowheads

[@NUSensei]

Are you talking about different sized sight rings?

[@Zeron18]

Funny story. When I first started, I went through several cheap plastic sights. They kept falling apart, the rod kept coming loose and moving the sight each shot. The biggest complaint was because I needed to keep unscrewing the unit to make adjustments. It was a nightmare to use compared to sightless bows.

[@deewilson9405]

I have the Shibuya two click which I am always having trouble with. I had a stroke a couple of years ago making my brain turn it the wrong way and the windage knob on the side is alien! I do not know which way to finely tune the left and right so therefore do not use it but need to know which way towards me or away from me for left and right fine tuning. When holding the bow, with the string nearest me, do I turn it towards me for left or vice versa, You may find this a bit shocking but it is either that or buy the shibuya Ultimate as my two click has a bad habit of moving a lot! Grateful for your help

[@SinyoSky]

Hello NUSensei... Thanks so much for all your useful & helpful videos... I've learned a lot things about archery from you... :) If you don't mind i wanna ask a few questions, hope you willing to answer... 1. What is the best Pin Size for practicing competition target shooting? (ex: 0.019" / 0.029" / 0.039") 2. And what is the best Pin Color for practicing competition target shooting? (ex: Red / Yellow / Green) 3. I have found this combo price for Sight + Scope really match my budget... It's "Decut DC-RE Sight" + "Decut Tawant Scope" Have you know or heard some info about it? And do you recommended it NUSensei?

[@NUSensei]

Sight pin size is entirely personal preference. There is no best size. Most pins are red for better contrast, but again it depends on what you prefer. I haven't worked with the Decut sights, so I can't comment on them.

[@SinyoSky]

Thanks for your reply NUSensei... Hmm, may i ask your sight preference NUSensei... About Pin Color and Pin Size?

[@NUSensei]

I currently use a Titan Scope (larger aperture) with a red dot.

[@SinyoSky]

Thanks again for your answer NUSensei.... Have a good day.... :)

[@evilryu29]

Very helpful

[@pequodexpress]

When using a sight, does the anchor point and line of sight need to change from what they are for instinctive aiming?

[@bbull71]

Hi nusensei I just recently got my recurve sights, I understand for the most part of how to use it, what I don't understand is the horizontal extension bar. Does it matter how far out I move my sight? I have heard it has some implications on bow torque. Also naturally my arrow runs at a direction of 10 to 11 o'clock every release, this requires me to compensate horizontally, but my sight pin is too short (20 yards range, I guess it will be worse on longer range). Am I shooting wrong, or do I just have to change to a longer sight pin? (took some archery classes, no major complaints from the teachers, haven't took any advanced classes yet) Thanks nusensei, you da bes

[@NUSensei]

The horizontal bar mostly influences how fine the adjustments are. Further out and adjustments are finer; closer in and each adjustment results in greater vertical difference due to the distance from the eye. The flight of the arrow is less indicative of your sight and more likely something to do with your arrow (e.g. too stiff) or tune (e.g. nocking point too low).

[@bbull71]

+NUSensei thank you for the response. I thought about the arrow being stiff and what not, but being in a class, I tried a couple different bow with different arrows already. They all resulted in the same arrow flight path, at least at 15-20 yards. I guess I'll just suck it up and learn to gut compensate it.

[@SaiKadle]

I have a cartel (Cartel Medalist Sight (8/32) sight and the mounting block comes loose after every 4-5 shots after which I have to tighten it. Do you think it is a sight issue or riser (SF Archery Forged Plus 25") issue?

[@rctvbyrurc]

First great video. I am in the process of upgrading my sons sight. The problem, as with most today, money. I simply cant afford the Sure Loc or Shibuya for him you reefer to. But his Cartel is coming apart. What is the best I can do with the less than $200 USD I have available? What he needs is repeatability. So the adjustments are important but who does the best job for the money? I am going nuts look into this.

[@NUSensei]

If you're willing to just above US$200, the Win&Win WS600, the Shibuya Dual-Click, SF Ultimate Pro and the Cartel Midas are worth looking at. The Cartel Activa is even lower, and seems to have some of the design features from the higher end.

[@orianneguermantes6278]

Does it matter where you mount the sight on the bow? Most sights come with multiple holes on the mount bar so you can mount it as close or as further away from the riser.

[@cabbage681]

I just bought an Avolon Tech one for £50.00 and its started rattling after ten mins, wish id spent the extra on the SF pro

[@Spirit451]

Does carbon make that much differences to aluminium for the shaft?

[@tiberiu_nicolae]

NUSensei, you mentionned several times the screws can come loose with shots. Once the adjustments are made, why can't one just use locktite thus eliminating that problem

[@NUSensei]

Because you constantly need to make adjustments. You have to move the sight between shots; you have to take the sight off when you finish. If the screw on the base comes loose, yes, use loc-tite to keep it on, but the sight block is the vulnerable point for a cheap sight.

[@tiberiu_nicolae]

+NUSensei Thank you for your insight and valuable information! I only have an ***old*** hunting compound bow and I haven't moved the 3 brass sighting pins in more than a decade. I didn't realize target shooting is so much more involved.

[@NUSensei]

Multi-pin hunting sights can be left as they are unless you change something with your bow. Single-pin target sights must be adjusted per distance and to fine-tune for conditions, such as wind and temperature.

[@DramaticRascal]

Hi, I've long been interested in archery and finally decided to get a compound bow and lessons are starting in a couple of months... so I was wondering if you had a video or something for beginners... like the most basic stuff and affordable equipment (for recreational archery only) thanks!

[@NUSensei]

Unfortunately, I mostly cover only target recurve information.

[@LionZ_]

You should've started with a recurve bow mate. The most beautiful archery there is!

[@jonesbanana]

its better to start with recurve and then move to compound, you will be able to shoot more instinctively and with less bad habit

[@EsbenRaakjaer]

+NUSensei have you tried the Decut Naha sight, i cant find reviews of it.

[@iggorr25]

Nice and very informative video, what do you think which sight is better, the Cartel xpert that you showed or the cartel mighty....?

[@NUSensei]

The Cartel Mighty is better. As typical for sights of that price range, they have the same screws that hold the vertical adjustment, but have some micro-adjustment knobs for windage.

[@iggorr25]

Ok thank you :D

[@ronnieyap7154]

NUSensei, hoping you can assist. I've just come into my possession of a Shibuya sight but is missing the "offset bracket" and a couple of the screws were not standard. Do you know or recommend where to best source parts for a Shibuya sight (in Aus or online oversea)? Tried my our local Archery shop here and was told parts have to be specially ordered and is costly. Appreciate any help here.

[@bryanlxw2023]

Hey everyone. I'm new to archery and I'm using a recurve bow with a sight on it. My question is, which eye do I use aim the sight? Right or left? I pull the string with my right hand. I am also pretty sure I'm right eye dominant (most comfortable aiming with my right eye). When I use my left eye to shoot I always shoot too much to the left, but when I aim with my right eye I can hit the target, but the string blocks the sight. Thank you everyone.

[@NUSensei]

You aim with both eyes open. As a right-eye shooter, you will naturally acquire the sight alignment with the right eye. If the string blocks the sight, adjust your anchor position so that it doesn't.

[@bryanlxw2023]

NUSensei Thank you for the reply. But Could you help elaborate what my left eye would be doing since my right eye is aligning the sight? I seems find it hard to focus with both eyes opened. Thanks.

[@NUSensei]

Both eyes should be looking at the target. The right eye should not be "trying" to align the sight; the sight is a fuzzy overlay on top of the target, which should be in focus with both eyes. It's tricky to begin with (many people see double), but with practice you should be able to use both eyes to acquire the target.

[@epicRMiddleton]

I hate my sight, I have a cartel Q sight. I'm saving up to buy either a shibuya ultima or an axcel sight.

[@peterxyz3541]

Hot glue, use it like LocTite to keep screws from falling off.

[@JerryDechant]

I was told plastic flights are not at good as feather flights, but when I go out to the archery range I see people with very expensive target bows using arrows with plastic flights. Seems to me, if feather was actually better, they'd be using arrows with feather flights. What is your opinion and recommendation regarding arrow flights?

[@NUSensei]

While feathers generally correct flight faster, the larger profile creates more drag, which in turn affects range. For a target shooter expecting to compete at 70-90m, vanes offer vastly superior performance. Vanes are also more easily available, cheaper and easier to work with. Additionally, performance vanes like the spin-wings are almost as light. Consequently, vanes are the standard for target shooters, while feathers tend to be preferred by traditional shooters.

[@JerryDechant]

Great. Thanks :) btw, I have enjoyed watching your archery videos. They have been helpful to me as I am just getting started again with archery after many years of not shooting. (back when I was a young boy.)

[@sidecarmisanthrope5927]

Jerome Dechant If you are into traditional archery you will shoot off the shelf and not from a flipper rest. If you do this you will need to use feather fletchings and not plastic vanes as the vanes will not flatten as well as the feathers. This will affect your accuracy.

[@JerryDechant]

***** Thanks for your comment. :) My bow has one of those little plastic things which the arrow rests upon, I guess that is the "flipper rest" you mentioned. I don't know what sort of archery I am into other than going out, shooting at targets and having an enjoyable experience while meeting others who do the same thing. :) I'm not interested in bow hunting or any other kind of hunting for that matter. I enjoyed shooting bow when I was a kid, so I thought I'd get back into it with more attention to doing it consistently and properly to actually hit the spot I intend to. My focus isn't there yet :)

[@sidecarmisanthrope5927]

Jerome Dechant Yours is a similar story to mine. I joined a local field archery club. We shoot targets and 3D (rubber) animals. You will learn a lot from the people in a club and have a great time. In a filed archery club you will soon discover what type of archery most appeals.

[@Zarthugoro]

That is some wind you got there

[@phantomcruizer]

What's the difference between a hunting sight like the HHA and a target sight like the Shibuya? Good video though.

[@NUSensei]

Hunting sights are purposefully designed for outdoor use. They are often more durable and the sight housing is larger. Consequently, hunting sights place more emphasis on calibrating the pin(s), especially for multi-pin sights. The challenge of shooting in an outdoor environment is that elevation and distance and even lighting aren't static. Because of this, hunting sights have to have things like easy elevation/windage references; spirit meters and fluorescent markings. In contrast, target archery is static with clearly marked distances.Target sights tend to be simpler for this reason.

[@DaveMoi]

I'm looking into getting the Shibuya Ultimate (carbon version). However I feel it lacks one feature and that is to be able to remove just the sightpin "block" while the alignment part remains on the sight. Doesn't this mean that you have to re-tune the elevation on your sight at each session? Sights like Sure-Loc seem to allow this. Or do you leave the entire sight on your bow when you're not shooting? Thanks

[@NUSensei]

I'm not sure what the problem is. As with all sights, the Shibuya has a sight tape. You record your elevation settings, then set them to that level when you are shooting. I'm not sure why you would need to retune after each session.

[@DaveMoi]

I was told by a member from my archery club (I'm quite new to the sport) that I should look for a sight where the "sightpin blobk" can be removed while part of it says on. This would allow for the elevation to remain where it is. He told me that he needs to retune his first shots every time when he starts shooting because his sight-pin slides off to remove it like with the Shibuya. I just wanted to know your take on this? I'm planning to get my first bow set this week, a SB Forged + riser with SF Elite limbs (Carbon / form, I initially was going to get the fiberglass / foam, but I read that Carbon/Foam is the better choice), the Shibuya Ultima carbon sight, and the usual stuff that goes with a first package, a soft bow case (SF Backpack premium large or Legend archery backpack pro tour challenger), SF Elite bow stand, X7 alu arrows, etc... In your opinion, would you say this is a good package to start with? Thanks :)

[@NUSensei]

I'm detecting some bollocks with the sight block suggestion. This makes no sense. Archers do not always shoot at the same distance, so having a sight block that "stays" at the elevation serves no functional purpose. Additionally, it is normal for rounds to include 2 or more sighting ends, as archers will need to account for weather conditions on the day. It is normal for archers to record their sight marks (or memorise them), and the only reason to "retune" the sight is if he doesn't record sight marks. Your bow kit is fine. The sight is a bit of an outlier, since it is a top-end sight on a mid-range riser, but this isn't a bad thing, as it will serve you for your entire archery career.

[@DaveMoi]

+NUSensei Thanks for the feedback :)

[@wildchild1161]

Lock tight ! that'll fix the screws from backing off .

[@dylanmitchell3978]

I think it's odd there is a such a huge gap between price range. I don't want to spend $300+ dollars on a sight, but I would be willing to part with a more reasonable $100 or so for one. Yet no one seems to have capitalized at this price point. Is there just a monopoly on target sights with little competition to drive prices down?

[@NUSensei]

Dylan Mitchell Some would say that the mid-range prices are a false economy. Either you go big and get a good sight that is precise, reliable and never needs replacing, or you get by with a cheap sight and put up with the inconvenience. There isn't much incentive to go for mid-range, and it's kind of there to make the other choices more attractive. I wouldn't say here's a monopoly. There are three major manufacturers of target sight that are fairly competitive - Shibuya, Sure-Loc and Axcel. Most of the cost does come from fine manufacturing and quality control, while cheaper sights make more use of plastic.

[@roythearcher]

+NUSensei I would say that the intermediate sights are for those who cannot justify the cost of a top-of-the-range sight for their shooting but who need something better than an entry level sight. Budget is also a consideration for some and those who are not expert archers do not often have the funds or the sponsorship to be able to afford a £300 sight.($640 Aus).

[@manuelbergmann9222]

Careful with those very long pins (the pic shown) - they are afaik prohibited in most competitions (e.g. "max. pin length 2cm")

[@NUSensei]

Manuel Bergmann Which picture are you referring to? All the sights shown in this video are standard, competition-legal sights for target recurve. The high-vis fibres are used on some sights and are not part of the sight pin.

[@manuelbergmann9222]

NUSensei Hey! :) I was referring to the picture at 3:58 - judging from the picture the pin exceeds a length of 2cm, which is not allowed according to the WA (FITA) target recurve rules: "11.1.5.2. The overall length of the sighting circle or point (tunnel, tube, sighting pin or other corresponding extended component) shall not exceed 2cm in the line of vision of the athlete." So I think one would have to shorten that pin. I'm just a beginner not really into competitions though, so please correct me if I'm wrong here! :) P.S.: Thanks for your reply! ^^

[@alexc8845]

can i use a reacurve sight on a compound bow or not

[@MrMCWolfCraft]

I have a question. Is there a big difference between the Shibuya ultima and the Shibuya ultima standard (aluminium bar vs carbon bar)? I am planning to buy a new sight and my archery shop only has the one with the aluminium bar and Im really interested in buying it but im not sure if it would be better buying the carbon one from an online shop. Thanks in advance!

[@NUSensei]

It's mostly the weight difference. Aluminium is noticeably heavier than carbon. You may find that the weight will affect the feel and balance of the bow.

[@masterarcherychannel6913]

NU sensei how to adjust if the target 15 M or 30 M please give clue I see a number at the front of the sight

[@NUSensei]

See my video on how to use sights: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGfWd5aJmbuiqJo

[@ugyendorji9489]

What would be the settings of sight for distance of 145 meters archery range. Here in Bhutan we play in long distance like 145 meters. thank you.

[@NUSensei]

I can't suggest sight settings without knowing the equipment, and it really comes down to the individual to calibrate their sights based on their equipment and training. The long distances used in Bhutan archery are beyond what these sights are designed for, so you are likely going to sight onto something above the target.

[@aerothearcher7770]

do sights come in left and right hand? For example I am left handed can I buy any sight without worrying if it is right or left?

[@NUSensei]

Most sights (but not all) can be turned around to be placed on the opposite side.

[@matiasdelhom1568]

i have a cheap cartel sight and im trying to land my shoots at 50 mts but even if the sight is set all the way down my shoots cant even reach the target they fall before hitting the target,this is because the cheap sight or because the low poundage? im shooting at 32 pounds bow.

[@NUSensei]

Matias Delhom It's because your arrow doesn't have the velocity to make the distance. This could be because your bow is too light, or your arrows are too heavy. A 32# should be able to make 50m, but if you're using heavy arrows (like aluminium) or have a short draw length (in which case you'll be drawing far under 32#), your arrows won't make it to the target.

[@matiasdelhom1568]

no im actually drawing the 32 or a bit plus (i have 28,5) and yes im using aluminium and my nocks are really tight so it is maybe the combination of that 2 things,like always thanks for your response.

[@balazsb8962]

Matias Delhom Hi Matias,try to move backwards your sight to your bow, (ie less extension) it"s add extra adjustable range downwardon the sight. 32lbs even with arrow should be fine. Even to 70m

[@matiasdelhom1568]

Balazs B thank you i will have to make some new holes to actually achieve less extension (its the low,low end model cartel sight) but still i will try it thanks for your response and happy shooting.

[@AnotherDaniel69]

how do you set up you first sight?

[@tysonl1908]

Most of those sights are more expensive than my bow! Lol ive spent just under 500$ on all my equipment! How much was all your equipment? NUSensei

[@NUSensei]

My current setup is probably over $2500.

[@tysonl1908]

NUSensei to you plan on going to the Olympics?

[@RandomVideos4U]

I think he's a couch so he tries to have the bet stuff.

[@HaneezHaroon]

Why is Sibuya Ultima so popular?

[@eyezon1975]

Is it possible to Mount a hunting sight (those 3-5 pin/dot types) on a recurve bow instead of a compound bow?

[@NUSensei]

Yes.

[@eyezon1975]

+NUSensei thank you, sensei sama.

[@roythearcher]

+eyezon1975 I would say Yes but why?... This kind of sight will quickly run out of range on a recurve which has a much lower arrow velocity than a compound bow for which these sights are intended. The distance of adjustment will be very limited on a recurve whereas a recurve bowsight is easy to adjust quickly and will give a much more usable range of adjustment for greater distances for a recurve bow.

[@eyezon1975]

I see your point. I know more about archery now than I did when I asked the question :) Then I was a noob, now I have leveled up to beginner :) thanks for your reply my man :)

[@NUSensei]

+roythearcher I disagree with this opinion. Multi-pin hunting sights are not designed specifically for compound. The purpose of the multi-pin sight is to give the archer a range of reference points without having to adjust, as adjusting a single-pin target sight is not practical in the field. If you come across a deer, you won't have time to estimate distance, check sight marks and set the sight pin accordingly. Multi-pin sights are preset to set distances and the target can be acquired immediately. Also bear in mind that a bowhunter isn't likely to shoot that far beyond 30m, especially a recurve shooter who lacks the precision to guarantee an ethical kill shot, so having adjustment for greater distance is not needed. It is normal for recurve bowhunters to use a multi-pin sight.

[@ivanlim98]

@nusensei is the fivics fv100 worth it?

[@TheLinAndre]

hi, i just got a sight, in second thought, it makes my shot much worse. without the sight, i could get a quite nice grouping and quite consistent shot, and with the sight, it gets all over the place and i cant even get the grouping right most of the time also, the setup is very troublesome do you have any tips on how to actually use the sight and how to set it up properly?

[@TheLinAndre]

Andre Nathan i got sf carbon sight, which has lots of good review on that price range

[@NUSensei]

Andre Nathan It sounds like you haven't yet developed a consistent sight picture. For the sight to aid you, you must consistently align the sight with the target. When you anchor, you need to check that the string is aligned with the same spot against the sight (such as on the right side of the sight ring). This effectively serves as your rear sight. If you don't have a clear string picture, you will not group well.

[@georgeASD]

I have question that keeps on my mind from a long time ago and l hope someone can help me perhaps: l have read the world archery rulebook and l noticed that in rule 11.1.5.1 states that "It shall not incorporate a prism" but l see many sights that have glass on them and they are allowed.... if so, that would mean that a red dot, provided it is not electronic is legal on recurve archery?

[@NUSensei]

Yes. Quite a few sight paint a red dot.

[@georgeASD]

@@NUSensei sorry mate, i didnt quite catch the meaning of your answer

[@georgeASD]

are they legal then?

[@georgeASD]

@@NUSensei specificaly thinking about this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZXdkHWvps6Xiqc 1 is not electronic, is lit by optic fiber. 2 the optic fiber tube is out of the line of sight. 3 its just one point of reference so aparently it complies with rulebook but the fact that is a reflex red dot makes the dot move depending on the angle you are looking from, so its like if it had a peep sight performance without having one. 4 it doesnt have magnification, is just a dot proyection over the cristal.

[@NUSensei]

@@georgeASD This is less clear for me to answer. I will say, however, that it doesn't lend itself well to target archery.

[@ShmuMcGoober]

Could you use a sight with multiple pins on a recurve, or does that not work?

[@NUSensei]

Duke McGoober You can. The multi-pin sights are preferred by hunters because you can set the pin for different distances. This is not needed for target shooters because they shoot from set distance and prefer the ability to make adjustments on the fly, which can't be done with multi-pin.

[@ShmuMcGoober]

Thanks, I wasn't sure.

[@allenrogal9660]

Can i put a red dot sight on my bow? I have a few sights from my firearm?

[@jvonbeats5988]

Allen Rogal No

[@NM-wd7kx]

You can, but you need a mounting bracket.

[@JimmyZ951]

is there a difference between a recurve sight and a compound sight?

[@NUSensei]

Compound sights can usually equip a greater variety of pins and lenses. In target archery, compound bows are allowed to use magnified lenses, whereas recurve bows cannot. Compound sights are therefore more modular in that they can replace the lens and sight block as needed.

[@JimmyZ951]

icic thanks :) last question, would you put a compound sight on a recurve bow?

[@NUSensei]

No. It's not legal for competition, and it's actually much harder to use on a recurve. Magnified lenses means that your movements are amplified. A compound bow can be held for longer, allowing the archer to take time to aim. A recurve shooter cannot hold steadily to make the magnified lens practical.

[@JimmyZ951]

okay, thanks for the insight :))

[@Lambofsam]

Hey really good video you have helped me with a lot of things to do with my archery. I have been aiming down the arrow but i think i will like a sight. I have a PSE Heritage series razor back. Its 66inch and 30 pound draw weight. I was hoping if you could recommend a nice cheap sight for my bow.

[@MrWizardjr9]

why do recurve bows not have peep sights?

[@NUSensei]

Peep sights are great if you can hold and align. The recurve shot process doesn't have the space for that fine-tuning option. The anchor point and string picture have to suffice as a rear sight.

[@highlander200268]

Since when does target archery not allow for magnifying lenses? I see it all the time?

[@NUSensei]

For compound, yes. Not for recurve.

[@lanunselatable5449]

NUSensei I don't think they allow for magnification aid for compound either.

[@highlander200268]

***** you need to watch World Archery channel on here then, the worlds best shooters, reo wilde, jesse broadwater, all shoot magnification

[@ShanLiB]

Highlander Lenses are NOT allowed in Olympic archery.

[@bonsaisamurai]

in Olympic and a lot of competition archery it's not allowed

[@ekstasiqX]

Two people can have the exact same set up and variables and still end up with different shot placement. I sight might help a little, but I don't think it's that helpful. I think learning to aim instinctively is a better choice.

[@NUSensei]

This does not objectively make sense. Fewer variables means that it comes down to shot execution - and yes, two people can still have different shot placement. However, the assertion that instinctive is "better" does not compute: you are *adding* variables to your shot process, so that an individual archer who does the same shot "exactly" the same will see different shot placement. What the sight does is that it eliminates a variable, so that shot placement can be more accurately attributed to specific parts of shot execution. If the sights are correctly set and the arrow goes high, we can say with more certainty that it is more likely caused by a variation in back tension and power; or if an arrow veers left, it's likely a release problem. While there are advantages to shooting instinctively (and generally feels more fulfilling), it's much more difficult to assess the cause of shot dispersion, since we have to evaluate the shot execution without being sure of exactly what the shooter's sight picture looks like. And when it comes to longer distances, instinctive just doesn't meet the expectations of a target shooter.

[@Nanorisk]

My string picture has the string way off to the right, beyond the knobs of the sight. I used to have the string aligned with the red dot, but that went so wrong.

[@cameronhumphries2377]

try moving the sight left/right see how it affects your shot

[@kylebalingit3834]

whats my sight my height is 5'4 ?

[@chrisixer9524]

Shibuya dual click

[@Egirl_Slayer]

I use a thermal sight/scope for hunting NOT target practise.

[@TonberryShuffle]

Sights? you have two eyes, right? That's all you need. I had to give you a hard time about trad archery. You do you, bro.

[@Johann-4354]

And I thought arrow choice was hard.

[@rachelm9350]

i can't see spending $450 on a sight unless you are competing. Most recreational people don't need one like that, just something that isn't plastic. Once a person is consistent enough that their coach thinks they should compete then they can upgrade. Otherwise a person may be throwing out their $$$ on a fancy sight if they stop doing archery.

[@NUSensei]

I agree. Most people won't need the micro-adjustments and quality of a top-end sight. However, the really cheap sights get really loose and fidgety, and break just by you looking at them. Just be careful of going too cheap.

[@roboshuffler555]

1 type of archery sight??? What about compound bow sights??? You should change the title

[@Mr.M1STER]

+roboshuffler555 If you watch and listen to the video he says that he is not going to get into compound sights in this video.

[@sevensamurai13]

No, extension and vertical height