Archery | Recurve Risers - What's the Difference?

[@edakimling133]

Your videos are very informative and provide balanced point of view. As a complete novice getting into archery I found a wealth of information through your various videos an I thank you for it. You also cover wide range of topics and I really like that as well. Cheers!

[@NUSensei]

The red one is a Samick Agulla, and yes, that was my first bow. Now it's a paperweight.

[@PetterBruland]

It was fun to go the route from super cheap Chinesium bow, then get a Fleetwood wood riser, then onto a rather heavy Cartel riser, over to a lighter Galaxy riser, and seeing the differences in cheaper limbs up to the $300 Hoyt limbs I have now. And also swapping out the cheap arrows for some good 400-500 carbon arrows. Made a huuuuuuge difference. Recently added some weight to balance the bow better, and its also noticeably different. Love your videos! Happy shooting everyone.

[@thomasmn66]

Big differences between HOYT, Samick, W&W, Border, PSE, etc etc. all have a very unique feel to them, which varies from model to model. If I pick up a Formula ION-X with Quattros and then pick up a W&W INNO MAX with INNO EX POWERs I notice a huge difference in grip, draw, after shot, balance, weight, tillers, etc etc between them. even with bows of a lower quality than the ones above I can still feel a marked difference in feel.

[@Aphetorusbull]

Thanks for the videos I like them and will be recommending them to my students. As a point of clarification about risers which you seemed to have skipped over (maybe to be covered in another vid) is the limb adjustment mechanism. The look, feel and grip are all personal preference and so not really all that important from a decision standpoint but being able to get the limbs within alignment is critical and this is the major difference between low end risers and mid-level units. Because the price difference between a riser that has adjustment and ones without is minimal I typically ask parents to go for that little extra cost and get the one that allows them to adjust the vertical limb alignment. In my opinion the cost difference between the mid level and the high end high cost risers is prestige and has very little to do with accuracy. But having confidence in your equipment seems to have a direct correlation to the reduction in wallet thickness so if archers have the money and they think the high end is worth it then the value of their confidence improvement might be justified. From my experience a measurable functionality standpoint I think it is mostly hype. When you find something that is difficult to explain it's usually because it cannot be measured or proven.

[@kaizen5023]

Thanks, this comment is really helpful for a newbie

[@lestatdelioncourt2389]

Hi, I get back to Archery after 24 years with my old Samick SMT7 38# and I want to get a new bow especialy with a little less pounds as it is difficult to fire those 38# yet. As I have more money (student vs worker) I can afford better parts and your video helped me A LOT to get the info needed to understand what is important and what's makes the difference for the price. I will go for the new W&W Wiawis riser (hopefully out mid-March) with SF Elite Carbon/Foam 34# to begin: as you said Riser is the most important part and Limb will be next but since I just begin I will probabily be able to get more # later and change them so it is useless to spend too much on them. I will go for the Shibuya ultimate carbon to get a real good sights that will last. Then a SF Velocity stabs kit to not spend too much on it and perhaps replace it later. Any comment on that selection? Anyway thanks for your usefull videos that just explain clearly the important things to know!

[@NUSensei]

Excellent choice. You're going cutting-edge with the Wiawis, and the limbs are a safe choice. The sight will also last you forever.

[@lestatdelioncourt2389]

NUSensei Thanks for your fast reply! Even if, for me, any mid range bow can do the job when you are not at the high level and more if you shoot at short distance. My SMT7 with low-end accessories did a good job with some nice results :) I was looking for Hoyt riser as it was the "Graal" when I was young then I saw your video about Limb and their new proprietary system with the formula and decided to go for W&W to be able to choice any Limb especialy cheaper ones to begin.

[@janes5036]

Thanks so much for all your videos- they're great. I took up archery a year ago and I've watched so many. I just upgraded my riser from a Hoyt Horizon to a Gillo G1, and I absolutely love it. So much more solid- as you say it is really difficult to explain the difference. If you ever see a G1 do shoot it- I'd be interested to hear how you feel it compares to your own.

[@NUSensei]

Apologies for the wait! It's the middle of winter here, so it's been difficult to get any archery done, let alone filming stuff. I've got a small window to get some stuff done, so hopefully we'll see more in the next few days.

[@sannox01]

Started and still using the SF Axiom+ light, 25" (70" bow) great riser as a starter, next riser, after much consideration will be a Win&Win Winact VT, the one I really want, the Inno AXT is out of my reach price wise, but one day. I did look at Hoyt Formula but was put off by the Formula limb system, you're tied to Hoyt limbs, ILF fitting risers give you a greater range of limb choice.

[@NUSensei]

I recommend the Inno Max. It is significantly heavier than the other two, and extra weight is desirable on a barebow riser since you can't add stabilisers, and as you probably know by now, a heavier bow is easier to keep on target. Additionally, if you do choose to go into Olympic-style recurve, the Inno Max is still a top riser. If you're leaning towards a lighter bow, the CXT and GMX is mostly a matter of what feels nice in your eyes and in your hand.

[@justinstimson6515]

What I learned from this video is that by far the main difference between risers is price. They are inert hunks of stuff that connect your hand to the limbs and accessories.

[@leeprice133]

Recently started shooting W&W Inno AL-1 - very happy with it.

[@dewboy910]

Since you posted this video, some manufacturers have come out with some great inexpensive risers like the SF Axiom Plus Light 25" Riser at a price of $139 at Lancaster Archery Supply. I'm just getting into Recurve after shooting compound since I was 12yr old. I don't want to break the bank just to get my feet wet, but don't want junk either. The Axiom looks like a fine riser and has some pretty good reviews. I am thinking of going with the 21" Axiom with short limbs for a hunting/target multipurpose bow. I will NOT be competing with it.

[@Techy680]

Just got myself a Win & Win AL1 25" riser and the new RCX-100 limbs, no regrets they are doing extremely well (and it is probally the best looking bow)

[@aramova]

As someone who's just now getting into Archery thank you for putting these videos out, very helpful.

[@d0nk3yboy117]

Just got my HPX today. So excited to get her shooting later on today

[@Kajerman]

I'm new to the sport and loved it from the very first shot. I've been surfing the web to see what would be a good bow for me to get. I've watched through nearly every video you've got now, which have been very helpful btw, and it got me thinking what kind of riser I should be aiming for in the future. For some reason I felt like I wanted a Hoyt after saving up but then I noticed how these Hoyt Formula risers don't accept other limbs but their own and are quite a bit more expensive as well. This got me a bit annoyed and now I'm considering other options. Not sure why Hoyt would do this. If they didn't like people fitting Win&Win limbs on their risers they should just make their limbs more affordable to people. There is probably some engineering reasoning as well but this just reminds me of Apple not wanting to play ball when it came to their charger not wanting to use the USB universal charger like everyone else.

[@jaredsmith6272]

YES!! Exactly what I was looking for.

[@zincyellowmach1523]

Once again, a great video! Thanks for answering my questions. I love your face after the $990 riser lol, my daughter and I watched it 3 times and kept laughing, it's exactly how I feel when I look at them lol

[@lars5749]

NUSensei, thank you for a lot of good information about archery. However I am finding it diffucult to choose my first bow. I have been shooting for a few months with the standard wooden club bow. This is ok, but my bow is not always availible and some times the set up is wrong, so I have been looking for an alternative. Money is not an issue, but I do find it interesting to get good equipment cheap. This video and your video of equipment at Rio 2016, highlight something that I feel have not been covered well before and might be an ide for a new video. The high end gear 2011 - 2013 is old equipment at the Rio 2016 Olympics, but archers still use the Hoyt GMX, the Prodigy RX, W&W CXT/AXT etc. Now, three years later, these and other 'expired' risers are availible relatively cheap. So how do used Hoyt GMX, the Prodigy RX an W&W CXT/AXT or even Fivics Titan Plus (or newer expired top end risers) compare to new intermediate risers like Kaya K3, SF Forged, Topoint Unison, winners forced elite etc. Since I am a beginner limbs will be exchanged going forward anyway, but maybe I could get a riser and sight (maybe stabilisers) that might last forwever? How do old topend compare with new intermediate? And yes, I am interested in shooting Olympig Recurve as compound do not appeal to me and struggle with finding reference points for barebow sighting. Thx

[@mightress]

i just stepped up from a samick riser to a hoyt. although it is nicer to shoot my points average is still the same basicly. these modern lower end risers are well made but as you say, lack finish quality and adjustments the high end riser have. shot the samick for 3 years and passed on to my son who will probably use it for quite a while.

[@LegitimatelyAxeL]

Great video. Really informative in explaining the difference with what I thought was all really the same

[@CrystalJacksonWriter]

I just started shooting recurve with a Samick Sage and while I enjoy it I'm already feeling put off by the bow for some reason. I think the single aspect that bugs me the most is in fact, the riser! I'm really struggling to figure out what riser I could live with long term.

[@brendon8702]

Do you shoot bows still?

[@aerothearcher7770]

Hey the agulla, thats what I have. Although mine is silver/black

[@aerothearcher7770]

Mine has worked well for 8 years, not a couple months.

[@aerothearcher7770]

I've decided what I will get, a Hoyt GMX. I want the more customization ILF limbs.

[@Simwebby]

I find these videos really helpfull. Thanks.

[@Nemesis_121]

Another great video! I would welcome your views on my current issue..I have just picked up a 25" W&W Inno Max riser to go with my 34# Long W&W Ex Power limbs, but due to a long draw of 32" I need to drop the weight slightly - How many turns do you think I could safely let the tiller bolts out to lighten the weight but still keep the bow working well? W&W seem pretty vague on this subject..! Thanks, Dan.

[@jdunn144]

I'm just getting interested in archery and have found your videos extremely helpful for answering a ton of questions. Thank you. What inexpensive ILF compatible risers should I look at (with an eye toward eventually hunting)? I'd love to have the upgrade flexibility of ILF, but the cheap take down bows seem to use proprietary systems. I'm leaning toward the non-ILF Samick Journey to cheaply build some draw strength and form before getting my first "real" bow, but I may bypass it for the right riser. For example, do you have any experience with the TradTech Pinnacle II?

[@kingwilly1000]

can you make a video on recurve arrow rests bolt on

[@TheDontbeEvil]

These Olympic style recurve riser/limb combo are consider "take-down" bows? also can you make a video on how to built/buy a recurve? I know you need to buy limb and riser but I don't know what else I need to buy to build a COMPLETE recurve. I know some website sells package but it would be great if there is a video that explains all the parts.

[@NUSensei]

Olympic-style bows are takedown bows. I will be putting together a video addressing your topic in the near future.

[@gregsdragon]

I'm a 6'4" adult male beginner to archery. I live is the US. My draw length is 31" which suggests a 70-72" bow. where can I find a beginner recurve bow between 22-28 lbs?

[@JCosio-bs9xr]

Hello NU先生, I was wondering if you can make a video on international flights with archery equipment- how to transport them safely and restrictions. I live in China and I want to get into archery, yet I know I will move back to the US next year. I'd like to know which stuff not to invest into should there be any problems transporting equipment along with 10 years of accumulated stuff from living abroad.

[@joeevans1687]

My Cartel Midas riser should be here next week. Do you think I should get SF Elite carbon foam limbs or Samick Universal Carbons? I will be shooting a 70" on a 25" riser for a 31.5 draw length. Or do you think the SF premium+carbons are of equal quality for an intermediate archer.

[@NUSensei]

Joe Evans I'd say both the Elite and Premium are fine for an intermediate archer. They're in the same range and you won't notice that much of a difference between the two.

[@joeevans1687]

Thanks, any thoughts on the Cartel Midas limbs?

[@NUSensei]

I haven't had any experience with them, but I have no reason to believe they're much different to other intermediate limbs.

[@joeevans1687]

Joe Evans Yeah, I have been looking for a set with an edge over the rest in the same price range. The Fivics Titan Pure and Hoyt 720's are at the top of my budget. I have no proof they are better than the SF intermediate choices. Are their any intermediate limbs that don't have twisting issues , I should know about?

[@georgetempest2469]

What is the best riser to defend myself from the Zombie Apocalypse? Can you recommend anything mean ass looking and in stupidly bright colours?

[@kurtwm2010]

a wooden stick would be just fine for you....don't poke your eyes out

[@TommyAlks]

Was that Axiom riser the one you started with? Ive been shooting freestyle with SF premium gear, Looking to upgrade though. I really like the Inno AL1, I will probably upgrade to that. Biggest factor with me is the handle, If it doesnt feel right you dont tend to shoot right. Nice vid mate.

[@billstorm191]

NUSensei, Thanks for these videos - they're super helpful. Questions on selecting a quality riser: I've yet to see a bunch of medium/high level target recurve risers in one place for hands-on comparison, so do people typically just choose one based on reviews/appearance/budget and hope for the best? Are grips changeable if the original one doesn't work well? I read reviews and people comment on differences between grips, so I'd rather not spend $800 on a riser only to have the grip be funky for my hands. Can you advise on the selection process? Thanks!

[@NUSensei]

Bill Storm I've found that most archers tend to select from what's available in store due to that preference in selecting based on look and feel rather than buying something they've never seen. For those who can't hold a bow in-store, often they will get an idea of what to get through mingling with other archers, who have a variety of equipment. I personally researched what pros use and went in for a leap of faith, but I had a fair idea of what I wanted after using my entry-level bow. Many bows do have replacable grips. Hoyt sells a small range of wooden grips; W&W can also be removed, but I haven't many replacements on the market. Archers often build up their own grips.

[@TheKerry1969]

Hey NU thanks for putting all the time and effort into your vids - really appreciate it. I'm on my second riser now (SF forged +) and really like the look of the INNO CXT but....25" or 27" with my 31" draw length? I'd be thankful of any advice, cheers. Kerry

[@NUSensei]

For your length, I recommend the longer riser.

[@TheKerry1969]

Thanks for the recommendation - was hoping that was the case, the 27" is £70 cheaper than the 25! :)

[@angelofernandez4440]

How does the cxt fare with 40-up poundage? :o I've got a cartel fantom 25" right now, 38 lbs medium limbs. I'm looking to buy a a new riser (Such as the cxt) because I'll be amping my poundage up to 42 in the future, but a friend told me it wasn't advisable, told me that the fantom's safe poundage threshold was 36 lbs. He participating at a competition one time, with a fellow shooter with the same set up as I have, just that he was pulling 42 lbs. Midway through the competition his fantom cracked.

[@NUSensei]

I'm not sure about this safe-poundage threshold. The Fantom *is* a relatively cheap riser, but it should be able to handle 40#+. The CXT is definitely built for competitive draw weights and is a marvel to shoot.

[@Australian_Made]

@Angelo Fernandez : This 36# figure is mentioned in some USA Big Store catalogs for ALL cast Risers. They don't have a limit with forged Risers and machined Risers; they are just mentioned with respect to all the listed cast Risers. I don't know if your Cartel Phantom is cast? If it is cast aluminium, then this explains the recommended restriction.

[@ayai-yy3rl]

which one do you recommend, I should use a 62/64 inch bow, for ILF I can use a 64 inch, 25 inch atf which should I buy if I want to be serious about becoming a professional or a 23 inch winex which really suits me?

[@stealth12141]

excellent. I am having a hard time deciding between cxt, max and gmx. I have been shooting Black Widow bows for 30 years. I want to compete, bare bow then venture on. What do you recomend and why ?

[@robertorios3135]

with a 28.5" DL , what would make a good low cost competition Recurve BareBow setup?

[@mrfarkhan2853]

Hi. I want to buy my first bow. I hv do some research and already choose Takedown Recurve Bow as my first bow. I hv some qs, should i buy Recurve Bow with ILF Riser or not? Is the ILF Riser significant useful to me as a beginner archers? For non ILF Riser bow set is under my budget, meanwhile ILF riser bow set is exceed my budget. However, I don't want to waste my money on non ILF Riser bow set "IF" ILF Riser bow set is useful to me as beginner. OR, should i just buy the non ILF since it is my first bow, then consider ILF set for second bow in future? My purpose for now, just as backyard shooter for fun but also want to develop my archery skill for future since i feel interest in this sport.

[@jcorrealuna]

Hi NU, can you tell me something about the Samick Avante 25" Riser? Thanks and regards. Julio

[@Halftruthz]

Hey NUSensei, What do you think about the Cartel Triple Riser that's made from plastic? People have tried it with the sage limbs and say that it's lighter than wooden risers and there's less shock.

[@sky9897]

Is there a mid to high range SF riser that will last me for a couple years in competetive shooting you'd recommend? I just got the SF Elite limbs, 40# but I'm dissatisfied with my SF Premium riser for the reason it might start bending over time. Also, it won't offer enough stability to support 40#. At least that's what some more experienced archers told me. I was looking at the SF Elite/ Velocity riser.

[@zamunashii]

Great video. I think I'll just take the Samick Journey, great cheap riser for a casual recurve archer

[@geoffgc]

Is there any real difference between a 23" riser w/ med limbs vs 25" riser with short limbs for a younger girl?

[@matiaslorenzon1965]

Hi! I'm from Argentina, i like your videos very much! They helped me a lot getting started. I want to ask you something. What's your impression on the Kaya K3 carbon riser? Do you know if it is ILF compatible? I'm thinking of build a mid level bow, and my options are: K3 carbon or SF Forged+ , both with SF Elite carbon foam limbs. Do you know if i can fit those sf limbs into the kaya riser? I'll buy them online, so i can't try them. Thanks a lot for your time, and can you do a video about consistency training? Thanks again!!!

[@NUSensei]

The Kaya K3 is alright. One of our club shooters uses one. I find the K3 a little thin in its design and grip, so if you want a sleek bow, the K3 suits you. Otherwise, I find the SF Forged+ to be better all around in its appearance, feel and balance. The Kaya K3 is an ILF bow, so you can fit the SF Elite limbs on.

[@christelleberthon]

Well done for all your videos, I'm new to archery but my instructors think I've got "potential". I want to buy a RCX 100 riser and limbs by Win & Win what do you think of those?

[@NUSensei]

The RCX-100 is a good mid-range carbon riser. It'll feel light in the hand, a bit thinner than other W&W risers.

[@christelleberthon]

+NUSensei WOW thank you so much Sensei for taking the time to answer....You rock

[@karpenter.]

As I can find only Hoyt has risers with strut. Is it patented and because only they can produce riser with strut?

[@foresightbewithyou6766]

What difference do all these expensive limbs and risers make to your accuracy? Say you buy a carbon riser and limbs for £1000 against a metal alloy riser with fibre limbs for around £200. Can a pro hit the same accuracy or does it make alot of difference?.

[@arioskuter]

Which one the best choice (bowset) under 100 USD?

[@hafizshapiee]

hello NuSensei, i got a question for you about the material used for the riser. do you already try an aluminium magnesium alloy riser? just asking because i never heard one before until few days ago. so i was wandering if it can perform almost similarly with the standard win&win or hoyt aluminium riser in terms of performance, dampening the vibration and. tq :)

[@mabumarnauen7318]

Hello! I'm new to archery and would really like to know, if the SF Axiom Plus Lite is the right riser for a beginner. Greetings

[@nataliem.motomura1061]

Hi! Thanks for the great video! I'm a newbie. have a choice between SF Archery Premium Plus 25 recurve and Win&Win Rapido 25. Which would you recommend? Thank you.

[@NUSensei]

They're both really good bows. I'd say it comes down to what looks and feels better for you.

[@spiritse]

Hi, I have a bow I bought a long time ago, it is 22lbs Rolan, I wanted to change it. the bow is marked up as 62 inch and 1.55m, It reaches from the floor to the tip of the bottom on my nose unstrung. My question is if I put a 25inch rise on a 66 would it end up too tall, that is how they measured me for a bow in the club I shot at? My draw is about 30 inchs so at 22lbs it would be 24 or 26lbs.

[@NUSensei]

No, it would be closer to the "right" size for you.

[@NUSensei]

I'm in Melbourne.

[@MrASK15122]

Hi, the video was really informative, but I have one question for you. I've been planning to buy a new bow to replace my entry leveled setup, but I can't seem to decide what riser to purchase. The two choices I have in mind are the SF Forged+ and the W&W Winex. I usually have a knack for heavy risers, but the Forged+ has gotten so many good reviews despite the fact that it's designed for entry to intermediate leveled archers. What riser would you recommend?

[@NUSensei]

Both of them are good choices. I wouldn't really recommend one of the other. I would not be swayed by reviews - the Forged+ is commonly recommended and therefore tends to get more reviews (similar to the Samick Sage Syndrome), but this does not mean that the Winex is an inferior bow. The Winex is closer to a poor man's Inno CXT and therefore closer to a high-end competitive bow, so if I had to recommend one, it would be the Winex, while the Forged+ is a simple, clean recommendation for an intermediate buy.

[@MrASK15122]

I see. Thank you so much for your opinion.

[@normahishak6223]

Hey i wants to ask betweem w&w winex and sf forged which is more good in durability and something else

[@ROY-sg5dd]

Which model of Samick riser are you using in this video

[@ared18t]

what kind of riser do you recommend for someone just starting out and with a bigger of less than 275

[@PhilipJayOcampo]

Thanks for your videos. They are all really informative and quite fun to watch. For this topic, would you know how the Gillo G1L riser compares to, say, a W&W Inno CXT?

[@NUSensei]

To my knowledge, they're more or less on the same level.

[@PhilipJayOcampo]

Thanks for that. Though I guess that means I really have to go and try both before buying, to see which feels better for me. :P

[@takashi0352]

I am fixing to get an Olympic recurve bow. No limits on money. Which riser would you go with a Hoyt or win & win?

[@Lelilels]

This is a Mac V Windows situation, both are seen a lot at top level competitions so neither will give you an advantage. Just go to your local shop and try them both out see which one feels better for you...

[@Andrey051089]

hello. can i use hoyt satori 17 19 or 21" riser for olympic?

[@mingchizijue]

Hi NUSensei, I watched all your videos and they are extremely helpful! Thanks for making these vedios! I got a question though: I'm considering upgrade my target bow with a budget around $500 us dollars, after some research i come to winex, winact vt, rcx100 and inno al1. winex and winact vt are a bit "traditional" but rcx100 really caught my eyes, i really love its design but its reviews are suspiciously sporadic... inno al1 is a bit over budget but if its really worth the price tag i can go for it. can you please give me some advice for these risers? Many thanks in advance!

[@NUSensei]

They're pretty much all good risers. Go for the one that appeals to you the most. The W&W AL-1 is an interesting design - it's balanced and solid in the hand, reminding me of the Hoyt GMX, but I wouldn't necessarily recommend it if budget is a factor. The Winex feels like a "diet" version of the CXT - good grip and design for a poor man's version of a top bow. I've come across once RCX-100 - it's thinner and lighter, from what I recall, so it's a bit different from the other W&W risers.

[@mingchizijue]

Thank you for taking time to reply, you really rock!!

[@mingchizijue]

+NUSensei another quick question, for arrow rest, what do you think of AAE Free Flyte Arrow Rest RH? it seems its better than stick-on rests which can be harmful for the paint and hard to replace

[@NUSensei]

Stick on rests don't have any effect on paint. The only thing they leave behind is adhesive residue, which can easily be removed. The Free-Flyte (and similar) are interesting in that they can be quite adjustable and have better clearance for arrows than regular magnetic rests. However, they tend to be uncommon or unpopular, possibly because there's more moving parts and things that are frustrating to adjust compared to a simple stick-on.

[@mingchizijue]

NUSensei thank you for the clarifications! I do think those are interesting as well, looks like they can provide some fine adjustments

[@iang.9109]

If I am just getting a bow to shoot in my backyard should I get a wooden or metal riser

[@NUSensei]

Just for recreation, wooden bows are simpler to work with and cheaper, but an aluminium riser can be fun and flashy.

[@bishoparchery]

Who makes your favorite recurve carbon riser in 2018 or of all time and why? Thanks.

[@silverblade41]

Bishop Archery carbofast are no longer making risers but back in the day they made some amazing looking products

[@senna1rossi]

Help me with my riser pick, please. Ok, I've narrowed my decision down to two risers ( I think); W&W Winex, and the new W&W Rapido. Seems like the more I learn aboot archery, the narrower the choices (which is good). Any other models I should consider (

[@NUSensei]

If you can afford it, I'd go with the Winex. It's basically a poor-man's Inno CXT -- very smooth design, good feel and good performance. It's one of the better risers in that price range.

[@senna1rossi]

Brilliant! will go with Winex, thanks! btw, noticed you're from NZ. say hello to your gf, Lorde. i loves her :)

[@NUSensei]

I'm not from NZ...

[@Vccine]

Hello again Sensei, I was wondering if I could effectively use SF Premium Riser and SF Axiom plus limbs if I shoot instinctively? Now, I know these are low cost pieces (I am on a tight budget), the reason I am considering them is because of ILF versatility. Do you think this combination would be OK for instinctive shooting? (I imagine I can just slap a hair rest on the shelf?)

[@NUSensei]

Vccine Nothing wrong with that setup.

[@dimasputra7450]

Hello Nusensei your video is very helpfull..I want to ask you, i have a sf optimo riser with 68" 28# limbs and I want to change the Limbs, my question is does the SF optimo riser could compatible with another limbs from different brand??such as cartel, samick..etc, thank you

[@NUSensei]

For the entry-level beginner bows, they often are not compatible, as they use their own limb attachment system and screws. Some *may* be compatible with each other, but for the most part the riser is designed to go with matching limbs.

[@dimasputra7450]

Thankyou sensei for the explanation..

[@Muhamad_Taufiq]

Maybe you already made purchasing decision, but this is primarily for anyone who read this: SF Optimo and Cartel Sirius is compatible with each other, I don't know how good would it perform, but it fits just fine.

[@wanadeena]

Could you comment on traditional archery in future vids?

[@NUSensei]

I don't do traditional archery and would rather not cover something I'm unfamiliar with.

[@just_jesh2494]

I've bought a sf archery axiom + riser,I thought that it is better to buy a low-end aluminium bow because I shooting so About a month.Did I make the right choice ?

[@NUSensei]

There's nothing wrong with that. Some people can be fairly elitist in judging entry-level equipment, but the Axiom+ is a decent bow at a very economical price.

[@mudkip_btw]

What would you recommend for someone that has shot for 3 years, but wants to switch to target archery from barebow. Price range about 300 but not much more for the riser. I do need growing options, quality finish (don't want things breaking down) and fine tuning. Any suggestions from NU/viewers much appreciated

[@mudkip_btw]

300€* btw

[@Desertleaf]

I Am going to start archery but i cannot find a single 50 lb ambidextrous bow anywhere. Do you know where i can get a 50lb ambidextrous bow? My draw length is between 31 and 32 inches. Im looking for an ambidextrous bow because i like to keep my body symmetrical - i dont want to be strong in 1 arm. I also believe its important to be able to use a weapon with both hands.

[@NUSensei]

You're looking at traditional bows then - English-style longbows and Asiatic "horse" bows. You're not going to want to look at modern bows, especially if you intend to use them as weapons training, as they are not designed for that purpose.

[@BobbyB24601]

I have a samick smt7 can anyone tell me what limbs are compatible as it is a 34# and I would like to get some new limbs to increase the #

[@petersogono6612]

Nu Sensei. Do you have any experience with the WNS MOTIVE FX 25 riser? Planning to upgrade and this happens to be available locally

[@fahlvfaust677]

Wns motive Very good forged cnc riser.. Aluminum die cast max poundage around 38 or 40lbs, but 38lbs is actually maximum poundage for cheap die cast riser..not sturdy. Forged cnc aluminum offer stiff,stability max poundage- 40lbs- 44lbs. Forged high grade solid aluminum cnc processing like 6061 or 7075 aluminum that offer very sturdy, stability. Max poundage 40- 52lbs( high end risers)

[@Measos77]

Is it advisable for an adult to get a 23" riser. I have found an SF forged+ riser bow package within my budget, but I have heard of difficulty with the sight window, or the sight is obscured by the riser. My draw length is around 27.5" (rough estimate). Thanks in advance.

[@NUSensei]

For your draw length, you would suit a 68" bow - 25" riser with Medium limb.

[@dndn1238]

Please review Samick Max Pro and Ultra X thank youuu

[@nockedarcher6255]

I love my Inno CXT nice video

[@alejandrodagdag717]

could you give a riser thats above average. not the best nor cheap one just above average pls thanks

[@PT111111]

What's the difference between shorter riser and longer riser?

[@NUSensei]

Apart from the obvious (one being shorter, the other being longer), riser length is considered when you decide what length bow you require. If you need a longer bow, you'll need a longer riser and/or longer limbs. Someone with a long draw length may have a harder time comfortably using a shorter bow.

[@KirbyEatsYu]

Hey. im looking to get a solid left handed riser between $200-450 that has some flexibility in limb selection. what are some of your suggestions on risers to look into?

[@NUSensei]

Any ILF riser will open up your limb options. For risers in that price range, look at the SF models like the Premium or Forged+.

[@KirbyEatsYu]

I'm torn between the SF premium and the W&W WINEX. would these 25" risers allow me to get up to a 68" bow with 40# draw weight?

[@NUSensei]

Yes, they would. The Winex is probably better in this regard.

[@KirbyEatsYu]

+NUSensei ok thanks a lot!

[@djordjemartinovic86]

I want buy W&W RISER RAPIDO or HOYT RISER FORMULA EXCEL , Hoyt Risers HOYT RISER HORIZON 25 What is ur chouse ? can you suggest me something else but around 300 euro .

[@TheWildmanjr]

how do you good about choosing a riser length? I have seen them from 21 inch to 27 inches.

[@NUSensei]

This is based on your draw length. For a person of average height, the combination of 25" riser with Medium limbs will give them a 68" bow. If you need a shorter or longer bow, that's when you begin mixing and matching the riser lengths and limbs. There are charts that can help your selection, or if you have an instructor, you can ask for recommendations.

[@hominhchi]

Hi NUS, do you think 25'' RH Hoyt GMX is overkill for a newbie? I saw a use 1 or should I buy the SF Forge + riser. thanks.

[@NUSensei]

The Hoyt GMX is a terrific platform for any archer. If you can get a used one, go for it. The Forged+ is also a very nice riser, but the GMX is a level above it.

[@Kervalen1]

"At best, they're glorified hunks of metal." Thank you sincerely for the video, but that sound's quite harsh to me.

[@exile182]

I just grabbed a Core riser from Merlin, I has bolts for the limb attachment and thats it, does that mean no tiller adjustment?

[@NUSensei]

That is correct. As a budget entry-level bow, it lacks that functionality.

[@exile182]

+NUSensei thanks, i would then assume to shoot split finger i just set up the nocking point accordingly?

[@NUSensei]

Yes, that's right.

[@exile182]

+NUSensei thanks mate.

[@Australian_Made]

@@exile182 NU Sensei now has a video where he reviews your Core Riser.

[@vmcarbon7865]

hello sensei, just want to ask ur opinion . is it still okay or worth it to buy a used inno cxt riser?

[@onlyvertical]

NUSensei,I have an old, ancient Hoyt Radian riser. I intend to buy Kinetic Halo. It's cheap,but for more quality I do not have money. What do you think, whether it is worth the $ 100? Sorry for my bad English.

[@NUSensei]

I haven't used the Halo, but it looks like a decent riser for the price.

[@onlyvertical]

Thanks NUSensei. I have 557 on 18 meters,553 on 25, with Radian and Easton Apollo aroows. It maybe better with Kinetic and carbon one. And W&W Inno power limbs. And more training,of course.

[@iggorr25]

Hi everyone :D well I am interested in the SF Premium riser and Samick vision basic limbs, are they a good combination and would this bow be a good upgrade from the Ragim Wildcat.... :D

[@NUSensei]

It's a solid choice for an intermediate bow. I wouldn't fault it.

[@iggorr25]

OK THX :D

[@casperreddy6464]

You are a VIP of Abbey Archery! lol are you living in NSW?

[@xujie1984]

great video

[@MrMCWolfCraft]

Do you have any experience with the hoyt horizon pro and the SF forged +. Im planning on buying one of them and i want something that will last me a couple of years. I am going to go to one of the only archery stores in Sweden to try holding them but i will most likely not be able to shoot them since the store has no shooting range. So what do you think of these risers. I need something between high end and low end. The archery store only stocks hoyt win and win and SF and only some of the risers so im limited by that. Also archery stuff costs a LOT in Sweden :). I cant really decide which one would be best so im hoping for some help.

[@NUSensei]

Both of them are very good choices in the middle range. As your first bow, I can't recommend one over the other; this depends on what you like more in terms of look and feel.

[@janes5036]

Hi Elliot- I just saw your post. Have you thought of importing archery stuff from the UK? Our £ is cheap at the moment, and there is no import tax while we're still in the EU. Most UK archery sites say they ship internationally. I just bought a Gillo G1 riser, which I love. A friend is very happy with his SF Forged, and I shot a Hoyt Horizon. Hopefully my Gillo should last me a good few years.

[@MrMCWolfCraft]

+JaneS Yeah i had some plans on doing that once i had decided which one i wanted. The thing is that i want to be able to hold them and se what i like the most. Then maybe i can buy the thing i tried from the net =)

[@1h1mzei35]

Does anyone have a copy of the samick mizar manual ?

[@__Linn]

Hey, NUSensi. I'm currently using a W&W SF Forged Plus Riser along with SF Premium Limbs. I'm quite happy about them so far, but I'm curious as to what you think of them. Are they decent enough to last me a life time, or should I invest in better ones in the future? Thanks in advance!

[@NUSensei]

That setup is a nice intermediate setup. There's nothing wrong with it. Whether you get another bow depends on your goals. If you're aiming to be an elite competitive archer, you'll probably want to invest in top-tier equipment down the track. However, if you're just shooting recreationally, they'll be fine forever.

[@__Linn]

I'm aiming to get serious in the sport, so I should probably invest in better equipment in the future. Thanks for the advice!

[@alexchan4074]

Hi newbie here. My coach recommend me either an Win and Win inno axt or a Fivics Titan X2. Any advice please?

[@NUSensei]

The AXT is currently a trendy medal-winning riser. I've never come across the Titan X2. This doesn't mean it's a bad bow, however.

[@alexchan4074]

Yap, nice of you to put up the Olympics Equipment list :).

[@evan7435]

If there are any beginning archers or people looking to get into archery out there looking for information on the equipment archers use, i have a new series i am starting that goes over recurve archery equipment. Thanks

[@HoneydewOz]

just managed to get an inno max for around $850

[@junito1957]

funny those $900 riser is really worth about $100 to make at max but it should cost about $50

[@itsjaynguyen]

how are those martin bows ?

[@georgetempest2469]

very good, reliable and expensive - I own a Damon Howatt hunting bow, the company that Martin took over.

[@TheLinAndre]

i'm a beginer archer, i just got a beginer wooden bow set, how long do you think i should wait before upgrading to the more advanced bow set? which riser would you recommend for beginer?

[@NUSensei]

Andre Nathan As soon as you feel ready for a more advanced bow, you should get one. Usage is almost exactly the same, and if you are intending on competitive shooting using a target-style bow, it would be better for you to buy one sooner rather than later. If anything, this is why archers should skip the entry-level wooden recurves if they already know what they want to do. Almost any target riser will suit you, mostly depending on what you like in terms of colour and design. I could recommend the top-end stuff like the W&W Inno and Wiawis series or the Hoyt risers, but if budget is a limiting factor, SF bows like the Axiom and Forged+ are excellent choices.

[@TheLinAndre]

NUSensei is it ok to stick with wooden riser as i buy all the upgrades so i can use it for later on when i buy better riser? Im thinking of stabilizer set for now, should i buy it or should i buy it after i buy the better riser?

[@NUSensei]

You could do that. It depends on whether you want a "new bow" sooner or a "complete" bow sooner.

[@TheLinAndre]

NUSensei okay, complete bow then, 1 more thing, should i get stabilizer first or sight first? I think if i get a sight, it would make me aim worse beacuse i rely on it, but if i shot wolithout sight, i can always shot better with sight

[@NUSensei]

If you intend to shoot with a sight, then you should get a sight first. Shooting with a sight doesn't make you dependent on it, and even if you feel like you are relying on the sight, this should not be a concern if your goal is to shoot freestyle recurve. The skills are transferable and you won't be losing any skill by using a sight.

[@junktea1]

Thanks for the tip