Archetype: Abasi Demo & In-Depth Review: Extended Range Guitarists Rejoice

[@chrismoore7359]

It's been a while since I've picked up a guitar but there are a few YT channels like Ola's & Rabea's that pique my interest intensely. Plague Scythe Studios is among those few but I always seem to grasp more info after a PSS vid. Thanks brother, for helping inspire me to pick up a guitar again!

[@IamtheFerryMan]

And how's the guitar playing going @Chris Moore? I've been playing a lot and it's awesome! Hope you are as well!

[@silvioschurig749]

They might publish a "Pack" for new records with all the record presets ... T-Shirt, Transcription and Presets - might be one more category of merch to sell for bands.

[@neighbourhoodmusician]

Neural are like a one-stop shop for prog-metal amp sims these days. Love the intro instrumental. Those clean tones are fantastic.

[@HypophyzH]

Hey ! FYI : Nolly confirmed the cab they choosed for the Abasi IR is Greenback loaded, can't remember 100% the brand but maybe Mesa trad 412 ! :) (I saw a comment from Nolly on NeuralDSP FB group)

[@Stargazerz]

Yeah it was a greenback loaded Mesa Trad 412 cab

[@yehorsanko9241]

The problem with the Neural stuff is that every new plug-in they make is better than previous: so you don't really know if you should buy or pass and wait :)

[@sidgar1]

I'm not sure if this is better or just differently focused than the last

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

sidgar1 yeah I agree. I have the Nolly and I honestly see little point in buying this.

[@shredmonster76]

@@GOAT-rl2uq To be fair, these amp models sound quite a bit different from the Nolly stuff. I purchased Nolly, but after playing around with the trial for Abasi, I may get it as well.

[@mr.esabsurditiesatrocities1805]

Excellent demo at the beginning. I think Neural needs to take the next step and start offering plugins that are much deeper. The main feature that solidified Fractal's viability to me is the ability to essentially mod the amp on the fly with all of the various deep features. Neural would be well served to partner with a great amp designer to design a great but somewhat generic amp that they could then offer the players with many features to tweak and shape. Basically the custom digital amp.

[@azzazelo]

DOOM-COUNTRY could be the new thing right? 🤘 Heavy fuzz and pedal steel 🤔

[@PeachyKeena_]

Fluent in navigating a mouse with your left hand I see? A man of culture.

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

I've always hypothesized that wireless mouse manufacturers owe a majority of their sales to the rise of internet porn.

[@mcolby7214]

I'm really loving the music used for the demonstration! I keep coming back to re-listen. Are you going to make a full length of it or is it an actual song already?

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

I've added that intro peice to my expansive library of "get to it later" song ideas LOL!

[@MattBalliusMusic]

Loved it when you randomly threw a change of seasons in there 👏

[@marklugo7168]

I’m a Pokémon battle... Player: Nolly, I choose you! Computer: Plini, I chose you!

[@angrylesbianoffensive8153]

I have Archetype: Abasi and I play hardcore, metalcore, and melodeath. I got it instead the nameless suite and NTS suite because I wanted a little bit different tone to apply to what I do. It’s actually worked really well. The amps provided in the plug in package are a little more clear and the phrasing is really nice with them. I love hardcore but I wanted to clean it up a little bit. It’s been fantastic, especially with this being my first foray into all digital recording.

[@blankspace0000]

Dude. Archetype: Ichika. Imagine that.

[@oh033]

That would be insane. You could probably get similar tones with Archetype Plini though.

[@gustanoid]

wtf is ichika? sounds like some anime shit

[@taylorharlem4932]

I know I am kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good website to watch newly released tv shows online ?

[@tristianjaden1389]

@Taylor Harlem i would suggest FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)

[@quintonayaan4576]

@Taylor Harlem i watch on Flixzone. You can find it by googling :)

[@BenvanGeest]

Tightanic! :D Thanks for the insightful video, mate. Much appreciated!

[@elus1ve0ne64]

I’ve been checking out Nolly and Abasi the past week. IMO, for cleans and buttery leads I think Abasi wins hands down. But the Nolly rhythm amp just has this compressed thick saturation that just sounds amazing ! I honestly wish neural would think about a hybrid suite that allows you to create your own custom archetype from the options in all the previous releases. They’re all similar but each one has its stand out features. Great Review ! 👍

[@d77sauce]

elus1ve 0ne what tuning do you play in ?

[@IamtheFerryMan]

@@d77sauce OP's username checks out.

[@kuringmundo]

Great video as always, Ryan. What song do you play at 22:09 ? Cheers!

[@AlexTalksTwo]

Kinda late to an answer but it is the outro to Inner Assasins.

[@kuringmundo]

@@AlexTalksTwo not at all. Thanks!

[@LeeJoRo]

just got the trial for this. it's so good. only played around with the presets so far. but i'm digging it

[@Darko.mp3]

Great review, I just bought this. Im playing a 6 string mexican tele but its doing the trick so far!

[@OliKTri]

Do you think this one can do Meshuggah as well as classic Thrash like Exodus (D Standard)?

[@benjaminmichaut9996]

As sais in the video, this one seems to reach for really specific tones. Archetype : Nolly is probably a better choice if you want to have a versatility from thrash to djent ... 14 days trial is still your friend !

[@danielvelkovski3156]

the nameless plugin was i believe modeled after meshuggah. Might be your best bet.

[@moonsuga]

My top picks for Neural would be Ola Englund, Adam Jones and Devin Townsend. I hope we get to see at least one of these guys

[@benjaminmichaut9996]

The Fortin Nts is actually almost an Archetype : Ola ... even if it miss delay for leads and chorus and reverb for cleans, wich is sad. Adam Jones or Devin Towsend would be interesting though.

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

Yeah, I feel like we’re more than good now when it comes to this Modern Prog Metal stuff. I hope Neural’s next release is something different, maybe something more doomy. Orange style stuff, rat pedals, fuzz, you know. I’m personally kind of tired of the whole Djent thing to begin with. It’s hugely impressive, but musically doesn’t really do much for me. Except Meshuggah. Meshuggah kicks ass.

[@rowdyruu8275]

Should I get this one over any other Nueral DSP plug-in? Just started using plug-ins etc and mostly use 8 strings for clean stuff and a 7 for some slams here and there.

[@michaelthompson3286]

These signature plug-ins sound absolutely brilliant, but they all seem pretty samey as Ryan points out.

[@christianhuber3480]

absolutely dont agree with that. at least not when comparing plini, nolly , abasi and the fortin cali.... totally difference here. (i never tried fortin and others)

[@alm000]

I love that song You play at the beginning, sic Dude! \M/

[@eitanshulman]

Hey guys. I'm trying this plugin now and I got very harsh noise tails after I mute notes. Now, this isn't happening when I mute the amp section, but that's not the solution. In other ampsims that's not happening too, built-in noise gate can't solve this, it appears with a delay or just cuts the note I need, so I get no sustain. Someone with same problem? What about another archetypes and suites, someone got same trouble in them? And if anyone know solution?

[@Red989]

Is there any way you could drop us some presets?

[@dallashousecomedy8955]

tosin has my favorite Extended Range Guitar tone so I'll diffidently get it. I just wish Neural DSP would add an equivalent to the Fractal Saw Pedal from White Chapel

[@jakubmikoajczyk6983]

that 8 string :O which model? Not Agile, that first guitar with floyd :D

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

She's custom ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKGrc3Sqo8-FqqM

[@fresquitotv]

I kinda disagree with you. Yes, if you already have Plini and/or Nolly, this is a bit more of the same, but this plugin is super versatile and, eventhough it's obviously geared toward modern metal, you can get a lot of different tones that will fit most styles. I can understand some reviewer fatigue, but as a user that has no other Neural DSP products, I will say this plugin is fantastic, the best I've ever used and I can't recommend it enough.

[@RubyRoks]

Give me Archetype: Wylde

[@wheresallthezombies]

Abasi's playing and tone are great but ide rather just listen to him play around in an instagram clip than listen to one of his full songs. I can't get into his actual songs though. They all feel like shred exercises or just not very strong melodies. Just my opinion so no one bite my head off. lol. I wish they'd add the eq and some delay and reverb pedals to the Fortin stuff. fuzz pedal would be nice to, specifically the fortin fuzz.

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

jhmcwha This is how I feel about 99% of these technical guitar gods. I have infinite respect for it, but musically it just doesn’t do much for me. Of course, technical ability and songwriting are two separate skills, so there’s that.

[@wheresallthezombies]

GOAT yeah, if they stopped with the shred and put that time into songwriting it’d be instense

[@SpaceJamzzz]

I'm a diehard AAL junkie and I'd even agree that lots of their material lacks strong melodies. A lot of their work (especially their self-titled album) has a certain vibe that I crave and can't exactly get from anyone else tho lmao

[@wheresallthezombies]

@@SpaceJamzzz that's awesome!

[@theflawedspecies]

Feel like you guys are listening to a different band. AAL gets incredibly melodic. Especially from Joy of Motion and on.

[@xsonicassassinx]

all of my friends: "bro the abasi plugin! the clean channel!" me, who hasn't turned off a tubescreamer in 9 years: shrugs it makes cool sounds. cool sounds that i'd never use. drive sounds are kinda indistinct. which mirrors the AAL tones. this was a genius marketing move. every bedroom fanboy without their own musical identity is going to help fund the next NDSP plugin, which hopefully will be something that i will use. bums me out to hear folks say the nolly is a NOLLY plugin, considering he's most notably known for bass. his amps in my studio? hell yeah. Plini or Tosin's tones? seems like a cute fan worship plugin. then again... there's an entire pantera suite. so this isn't new. solid analysis as always.

[@MrOzyreusz]

I disagree as cleans I get here I can't replicate on Nolly. The rest maybe, but the clean one is amazing for lower tunings zero farts as others do. Anyway great review as always, thank you

[@XCenturionX]

Nothing beats the NTS, and the Nameless...

[@nivo6379]

Personally, I don't like Tosin's heavy tone. It is very loose and clean. However, his clean and lead sounds are good.

[@benjaminmichaut9996]

But now that you've spent more than 600 € in Neural DSP stuff, the real question is : shouldn't you have buyed Line 6 Helix Native Instead ?

[@nihilistictanuki6947]

I own the Helix LT and I must say I prefer my Neural DSP Plugins (NTS and Nolly on my side).

[@Francisco17Berrios]

Helix native is shitty compared to this. Is like those +999 Chinese game consoles.

[@sebastiansoto3250]

I have te helix native, pure shit next to the neural stuff

[@instrumentalist28]

Thanks for the demo, great playing, but other than nts, nothing neural has put out has caught my attention to the point of paying those ridiculous prices....and I m pretty sure it’s cpu hogging....neural has hit a glass ceiling and seem to be repeating themselves......I d love to see a company do a Def Leppard hysteria rockman plugin....the first plugin fatigue I had were all the 6505 and rec sims about a few years ago....

[@kimseniorb]

I don’t like how neural plugins are sounding, mushy and harsh not in a good way, I prefer the axe fx by a long shot which is generally more mid forward and tight and pleasant

[@RobertCow]

One of the noisiest plugins from ndsp. Perhaps it’s all but my guitar which is a bit noisy

[@jera2150]

Cubase FTW

[@matttaylor1449]

Objectively speaking, this is the least useful plugin suite they've released so far, especially being as most of the people who'd want this one can probable get very similar sounds with Nolly or Plini. It's the most specialized plugins thus far and it has competition. I too couldn't get a good sound using a Lundgren M8 equipped guitar.

[@Sven.Jeschke]

All these modern rock/metal/djent suites start to get ridiculously boring. Tubescreamer style pedal? Check. V30 IRs? Check. Named after a famous. odern metal player or producer? Check. Suited for cleans and chugs (God, I hate that term)? Check. In a couple of years metal players will be coming back to a good scooped sound and power chord rifiing.