Archetype: Nolly Demo & In-Depth Review: Neural DSP's Best Offering Yet

[@glorideefaithperez2858]

This is the single most helpful/informative video on the Neural plug ins I've seen. Thanks so much!

[@benjaminmichaut9996]

I think that Neural DSP could launch an hardware unit including all of their models and easily compete with the existing market.

[@adriansugrim]

I can only wish

[@benjaminmichaut9996]

Well, I am a genius and I can see the future (that's false btw theese kinf of theories were pretty easy to guess)

[@hammersmashedbass3455]

You can actually pre order such thing from neural dsp, its called the Quad Cortex

[@benjaminmichaut9996]

@@hammersmashedbass3455 It's rue, I know, but since I posted the original comment 10 months ago, before the announcement of the Quad, I am thus a genius who can see the future.

[@LochNessAnthony]

@@benjaminmichaut9996 all hail Benjamin

[@NickHillMakesMusic]

This thing sounds pretty good to my ears. Great demo.

[@florianju5638]

Wow! Really good review! Complete overview, everything I would expect from an in depth review. Thank you very much for your work :) Greetings from Germany, Flo PS: Nice Motörhead riffs you got going there ;)

[@evitative462]

Regarding the 4th amp, Nolly actually confirmed in the Neural DSP users group on Facebook it is a Victory V30 but went on to say it's been modified so as to barely resemble the original amp.

[@NEVERGAZER]

Super helpful information, a lot more detailed than most reviews. Wound up snagging the Nolly on sale.

[@V1C10US]

Neural DSP should offer a discount if you've already purchased another one. And I agree, I would really like to see all the plugins available in one launcher, or better yet one suite where we can mix all the gear individually.

[@jesuislm]

Victory kraken!! I thought was PRS MT15 Lbox!! I took the hook! Thanks for your review.

[@evitative462]

It's actually not the Kraken. It's a V30 but the preamp and tonestack have been heavily modified

[@GuitarMetalHeadFrance]

Reaching for a good clean sound for my intro ,then good settings to play Melodic Black inside Reaper and how building the sound ,a demo video like yours is what i look for

[@massimilianopagliuso]

Perfect review, always honest and sincere 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@mattiaslundmark5396]

Excellent!! Buying the Nolly and the NTS today!

[@theoneneolink]

I shot out the Nolly plugin with a Plini plugin mix I had from before my free trial ended, and I thought the crunch amp on the Plini plugin actually had more of a nice body and character... So while the Nolly plugin might give you more tonal options, there was just something about the character of the Plini one that gave it more sauce, I dunno. Some of the sounds you can get on Nolly might be more typical. Also, the cleans on Plini seemed more shimmery and pretty, and had more potential for ambient stuff from what I remember, but I don't have it right now to compare. So I'm still not sure which to get. I think if I wanted more hairy, heavy, out of control sounds, I might go Nolly, but then again I haven't really been going there with my writing and listening lately.

[@corey8toto]

Yeah, Plini's clean actually sound more warm, rounded, Nolly's sound a bit glassy or smth like that. Especially I see diffrence on low freq. For me clean is really important, cause I'm not 'nothing but metal' guy, so I probably wait for discount to buy Plini. But practicly yeah, Nolly one head above.

[@omarsharif927]

After the trial what are limitations

[@TheSavage1969]

1- Bogner Shiva, 2- Modded Marshall, 3- Peavey 5150 block letter, 4- Victory Kraken

[@mikei5104]

Are you sure the first is a Shiva?

[@TheSavage1969]

@@mikei5104 If Neural is sure then I am since it's their confirmation. They were replying to comments in another video where folks were putting the best guesses forward and it was isolated to the above with Neural replying "your subscribers are insanely discerning. Kudos!". Also, it's known that the Nolly himself previously had mentioned that the Shiva was his favorite clean tone. You can google for more, but it's the closest true confirmation we have to date that I can find. Regards.

[@vicente8651]

You should review The Andy James amp sim vst by stl tonality.

[@larbear666]

I feel like the stl offerings arent as good. I have this and the stl will putney and I have been pretty disappointed by the stl offering and the andy james has even fewer features

[@cmd_f5]

@James Brown I can drag some decent sounds from Will Putney but overall I feel like I'd be better with this or a Kuassa Offering. That said they do very different things, a NDSP plug vs a Kuassa Creme. Rant: STL making me create an account for a free plugin (Ignite Emissary 2) is just annoying. Not digging that at all. But I digress haha.

[@ioannisstavropoulos4319]

Thanks for the great review! Gonna get it too! Subbed!

[@xsonicassassinx]

THANK YOU. as usual, we are on the same wavelength. i want SO badly to mix cabs. i set it up the long way and it sounded incredible. just a CPU destroyer. also want a 57 off axis. seems like a weird oversight. try running the overdrives together. set both up with the TS boost and it just beats the front of the amp senseless. i put this up against TSE x50 and man... sorry TSE. it's retired. not that the distinction matters, but i think it's a victory v30 that nolly has modded to death.

[@voltaspeeder17]

1. Thank you for making an awesome demo of this amazing plugin. I bought it aswell and i love it. 2. Thank you for playing some Motorhead songs. I'm a die hard Motorhead fan so i appreciate it! 3. Subbed, you deserve it.

[@anders2077]

Good review. This suite is really good. If I were on a tight budget, this would be my go.

[@Erickov]

Awesome man! Just what i was looking for!

[@dman3d]

Gorgeous Axe there,, grabbed the demo a week ago. Its terrific, Plini too. I am hesitant to buy wondering if they will have an inclusive version in the future.

[@jasonstallworth]

Nice video man, and as always, great playing! I do think this is above most other plugins out there. But I still prefer Neural DSP’s Fortin NTS!!! I hope that Neural will re-release that with effects!!

[@jrfoster1980]

Great in depth review.

[@tomsmith9579]

Great review!

[@CFChristian]

Could someone please tell me what the "Delay - 2" is modeled after? I achieved a very specific chorus-like mod effect with it, and was hoping to replicate it with a standalone pedal.

[@ianhenderson1872]

nice review thank you

[@ThomasECahill]

Great Review! Thanks.

[@alojz300]

love the motorhead riffs bud

[@larbear666]

Pretty sure the crunch cab is the zilla and the lead is the t75

[@shredmonster76]

Hey Ryan, I bought this plug in sight unseen. Its sounds ok, but what is the easiest/best way to get this running out of my cabinet instead of my wimpy monitors. I'm using a scarlet solo interface with stereo rca out and headphone out. Is there a way to run it thru my effects return and get a better sound for just jamming at home?

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Yeah mate, just a line out of the interface into an effects loop, turn off cab SIM and you're sweet

[@cmd_f5]

Having a delay pre-distortion is a cool idea. Gigan uses that sometimes in their older material and it works great. That said I have like 10 free delay plugins that can do this, so I'm sort of not that excited. I guess if you like having a one plug per guitar track it can be handy, though. Overall though I like the amp selection, you don't see a Victory emulation anywhere like ever. Would by this over Plinianytime. Sounds more like what I'd play through. Plini is ... Just a little too out there for me. And I almost never use cleans, so yeah. Screw that. lol. Great vid as always man. Ps: If / when you feel like doing plug reviews again, have a peak at Kuassa and their Amplifikation series. Klarent and Creme being the ones I dig. Marshall and Orange voicings respectively. Not 160 buckers either, and no effing ilock. Hate ilock like I hate being broke haha. Cheers

[@shoeksma]

I really like the clean sound from 14:50 to 15:15, but I can definitely hear a bit of a chorus effect there. Where is this coming from? The Archetype Nolly does not have a chorus pedal, and your preset shows that the mod switch in the delay-2 is off. So where is the chorus coming from ??

[@unacuentadeyoutube13]

I noticed the same thing

[@CarcPazu]

Can you do a Top 5 Rectifier software emulation (plugins) for a DAW?

[@hannibalbarkas1350]

Definitely try the free LePou LeCto.

[@guitboxgeek]

This is a remarkable plugin, as is the Plini version. However, as Plague Scythe Studios points out in the video, if you purchased the Plini a few weeks before Nolly came out, Neural won't allow you to cross-grade or upgrade to the Nolly. I wrote to them and Neural just sent me a boiler-plate response about their demo for Nolly, not even acknowledging that I already own Plini. At the prices they're asking, in my opinion, they should allow folks to upgrade.

[@guitboxgeek]

@@supplebiscuitYeah, I get that. I was just saying they didn't have to be dickish about it. That was a chance for them to say, hey Chris, we appreciate you bought our Plini plugin but we don't offer an crossgrade from Plini. Done. I would've just said thanks and bought the Nolly anyway :)

[@jackmeginniss6327]

That was a great walkthrough. I bought the Nolly several days ago, but haven't tried it out yet.

[@djabthrash]

Loved the rock tones.

[@vejichan]

which plugin is your favorite from neural dsp for high gain dream theater and clean eric johnson?

[@MrHardrocker98]

Probably plini

[@memoyann]

I was so ready to buy the NTS and then they drop this. In terms of quality of sound how would you compare this to the NTS? I'm not talking about value in quantity but quality.

[@lll19977]

Loved the review. Could you tell me what piece you're playing at 14:50? Or is it an improv?

[@IanVase]

I got the trial. I dig it. But that reverb basically shuts my computer down lol. With no other plugins active.

[@anastav6915]

Info on your guitar pls? Sounds and looks HOT!

[@kornklone]

I want that song at the beginning and end. Give it to me please....(and the song too)

[@xanathell]

I've heard a lot of good stuff about NDSP's products. I've been hesitant to purchase anything though because I'm concerned it's mostly just hype. I wish I just owned a Fractal product and was done with it. I've decided to place my trust in Nolly. His work really does speak for itself and I've just been looking for one solid well-rounded amp sim. I'd like to think that Nolly wouldn't put his name on something he truly didn't believe in. I still need to demo it myself, but I've been needing to upgrade to a non-paid amp sim, and I'm very confident I will buy this in the near future.

[@thepessimist9043]

That is actually a great question, would Nolly or basically any of top-quality VSTs (from Neural DSP, Mercuriall, STL Tones) live up to the standard of Fractal products?

[@xanathell]

@@thepessimist9043 I doubt it. you can hardly compare any VST on the market to a $2,000+ hardware unit that is now basically industry standard for any professional guitarist in their arsenal.

[@thepessimist9043]

@@xanathell probably so, but there are some factors that make me doubt that. 1) Axe FX is an expensive peace of hardware by itself, and you would also need to include RnD, shipping and all that into the cost of a unit. 2) It offers a lot of added functionality since it's a standalone processor (for gigging) and it also includes like every tone imaginable. So when it comes to software only i believe that it is possible to achieve pretty much the same kind of quality in a VST using a modern PC. I'm saving money for the upcoming FM3 but since i've never had a possibility to directly compare a Fractal product to VST (i use Mercuriall Reaxis) i have doubts if there would be a lot of difference. Same thing for Nolly or other Neural DSP stuff.

[@kimseniorb]

Its nowhere near the axe fx, its just clever marketing(paid youtubers) and promotion. I’ve done countless shootouts and its really not that good. There are other plugins on the market that can sound literally as good as the axe fx or kemper.

[@thepessimist9043]

@@kimseniorb what are these VSTs?

[@jagd924]

About the price, I would rather say that the other plugins are overpriced. Nameless is good, but 100 dollars is a biit much imo. 135 for Nolly is a good price since they dont really have any expenses, it is all digital. They should rather lower the prices on the other plugins, I am not spending 200 dollars for two basic plugins, simple as that. But I will probably be getting Nolly though.

[@omarsharif927]

I agree 💯

[@KeepTheGates]

I think they're priced fairly. They're top shelf, STL and Mercuriall are the only ones that can hold a candle to them, and even then they don't feel as responsive and alive. Not to me, at least. You've got companies like Toneforge charging $179 for TF Misha Mansoor Advanced, and that's a complete ripoff. With the loyal customer discount you can get Nameless, NTS or Omega for like $94. I guess compared to the 4 amps you get with Nolly it could seem expensive, but I like to just think that the Archetype plugins are cheap.

[@bikesnbeerz]

Got on their mailing list for flash sales of 50% off (Nolly $79.50 US)

[@iurigrang]

They spend a shit ton of money/time developing this kind of stuff. It must be hell to live your life working as a software engineer only for people to treat the fruits of your label as valueless and inexpensive to produce.

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

Any chance of getting a Doom tone tutorial? Especially with the Nolly.

[@jamesdewey133]

GOAT I don’t have a tutorial but I did buy the plug and can confirm it dooms

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

@@jamesdewey133 What kind of settings/pedals/cabs etc. are you using for doomyness?

[@jamesdewey133]

Well what kind of doominess are you going for? This thing has everything from sabbath, to elder, to fucking feedback loops and funeralopolis. Personally the Kraken/Hiwatt amp paired with either V30 cab does a great job

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

@@jamesdewey133 Thanks, will play around with those! I've been messing around with the Wasteland Doom cabs and they sound pretty sweet too. I guess more than anything I'm chasing that Cough - Haunter of the Dark style sound.

[@michaelthompson3286]

Sorry to be nitpicking, but the strong gate or compression you have on your voice causes the KZbin app on my TV to cut seconds off the start of sentences. Love the content as usual, just a suggestion! 🤘🏼

[@pr0metheus88]

You should do a play through of stimulant love that song \m/

[@underpressureman]

Sounds great dude! Hey, on another note, can I ask you a question about the 33 pedal? I've been considering getting a 33, but I usually play alot in E Standard, E flat, Drop D, and Drop D flat. I understand that the 33 is supposed to be great for lower tunings but I figured it would be great as a clean boost for more standard tunings as well, but I've been reading some posts that say in standard higher tunings theres some wierd stuff happening(in this case) buddy said on the A string he would get some not so pleasing sounds. I don't like forums for the most part and like to talk to people I know or trust because opinions are like A$$*%^*$ so I wanted to ask you how you feel this pedal performs in higher tunings or if you've ever noticed anything wierd? I personally think it should be fine and whatever results buddy was getting was unique to something in his setup but you never know. He wasn't exactly specific on what the result was, but just that it was like a harshness or clipping, but just on the A lol, so I dunno. Thanks dude, you rock! Also, just an idea, maybe a 33 comparison between different tunings??

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

This is the video for you then. I would honestly recommend a regular graphic EQ pedal for such standard timings before you shell out $250 for a treble heavy fixed boost. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnzWmnujrqimrMU

[@they_arent_human]

get a TC integrated preamp clone. I own a 33 by fortin and a Dirty tree(33 and TC in one) from peperspedals big cartel site. the Dirty tree has the 33 and also the option to switch to TC and shape the lows and highs of your guitar signal.

[@underpressureman]

I hear ya. I was mainly just curious if there was any truth to the 33 sounding weird on higher tunings or if you ever heard anything about that. I still think a video comparing lower to standard tunings like E,Eb, and drop D would be cool. I'm not stuck on the idea that I need a 33 to get a quality clean boost lol.

[@underpressureman]

@@they_arent_human Sorry I'm abit confused. So the TC Integrated preamp clone is called the Dirty Tree and its a clone of a 33 and a TC(which TC) in one?

[@they_arent_human]

@@underpressureman the tc integrated preamp. it has a low, high, volume control. To shape your tone before the amp. The 33 is a TC integrated preamp that is set to remove bass and add highs. Best for high gain tones with low tuned bassy guitars. The pepers pedals DirtyTree is a TC integrated Pre and 33 in one. So you can have the option to use the 33 settings or take control of the tone shaping yourself.

[@blackcatfancy]

17:11 -66.6 Noise Gate :D

[@JazzSmith]

Anyone know the clean riff at 16:50? I recognise it but i can't place it

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

Pantera - Floods outro

[@JazzSmith]

@@PlagueScytheStudios Thank you my man, great video as always

[@Flickcolt]

What amp is that behind you? Demo soon? Also, where did the Mesa Boogies go?

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

I've had it a while, the Boogies are just out of frame. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqG2g4KBncdoo6c

[@prashuryagoswami6122]

do you like archetype nolly or granophyre more?

[@mohitrahaman]

This is the only ampsim my broke pockets wishes to buy...

[@srnielsen]

See you have added the Cubase MonoToStereo plugin before the Nolly plugin.. what color, delay and width setting are you using? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoLcXpuJiMqnfs0

[@wheresallthezombies]

Nolly kind of kills the excitement out of mixes. everything sounds like the life is sucked out of it. also, it explains why i didn't like that last amp. i can't stand victory amps. but the other three are pretty cool. honestly i like the way the Plini amps sound more. But i do really like the clean tones you can get out of the Nolly. so both for me makes sense. do you think you'll check out the diesel vh4 brainworx plugin?

[@giancarlopaolini7529]

the Diezel vh4 from brainworx is a killer amp ...very versatile ...one of the best VST for heavy stuff...at least to my ears.

[@wheresallthezombies]

@@giancarlopaolini7529 yeah it sounds pretty sweet. do you only use it for heavy stuff? or do you play some more clean and low gain stuff as well?

[@giancarlopaolini7529]

​@@wheresallthezombies I'm more into Hard Rock (EVH kind of sound) than heavy metal - no 8 strings at all - and the Diezel vh4 of brainworx is excellent for that too, leaving space for higher gain shredding if one wants to. Clean ? I love the Plini for sure (I love its delay and reverb on top of the 1st clean amp) while I've to dig properly the Nolly now.

[@wheresallthezombies]

Giancarlo Paolini ok that’s perfect for me. The heaviest I go is like every time I die, mastodon, and baroness type stuff. And mastodon actually use a VH4 in the studio and one of the guys used to use one live.

[@giancarlopaolini7529]

@@wheresallthezombies you can always free test it for 14 days before buying so give it a try.

[@johnnylegion5346]

Btw great video 👍🤘

[@joesantangelo1]

I’m pretty sure Amp 2 is channel 2 from the VH4.

[@NourMohamed-xe8zw]

Between this and the Plini plugin, what do you think is better and why?

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

See the last 9 minutes of this video. It depends on your tastes when it comes to the available tones, but I think Nolly absolutely crushed Neural's past plugins dollar for dollar.

[@NourMohamed-xe8zw]

Plague Scythe Studios Ah okay, thanks for the input. Keep up the great work brother! :)

[@eskikafa843]

Can't understand all the hype about neural dsp stuff, I have nameless and tried nts, imo Mercruiall stuff sounds and feels better yet no one talks about them.

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

I've reviewed basically all of Mercuriall's products. Reaxis is a masterpiece, but they dont have the endorsements to compete with Neural DSP on a marketing level. Still, they are one of the few gear companies that deserves the praise they get imo.

[@thepessimist9043]

Absolutely! I've bought Reaxis for 60 bucks and enjoy playing it every day. One day i got tired of that alternate picking metal wankery on IIC+ channel, so i switched on the Mark I rhythm channel, and the gorgeous edge of breakup tone was right there for me to play some blues... Though Nolly also sounds great.

[@they_arent_human]

nameless is more than hype. i love it. Wasnt as impressed with NTS. Trialed the Plini and it was pretty good. Hoping this one is done as well as the nameless. It has almost all the sounds id need. i do like the reaxis. esp when just trying to get some power amp tone to add to pedal preamps.

[@johnnylegion5346]

I have an answer..... STL tonality

[@kimseniorb]

their best offering is still Nameless. this one's amps were really a big letdown - just your usual flubby plugin sounds. you are clearly biased in my opinion. this plugin doesnt sound anything exceptional, just shoot it out against the axe fx 5153 blue 50w, it sounds miles better with all the knobs at 12 than anything you can tweak on the peavey amp in nolly. always try and shootout things using the same DI, otherwise every new plugin is going to sound grounbreaking and "best" to you (their marketing game is pretty strong but I'm surprised you're falling for it)

[@PlagueScytheStudios]

Dude... you commented literally 4 minutes into this 30 minute video being out.

[@NickHillMakesMusic]

@@PlagueScytheStudios Yeah, but that enough time to realize you're biased...

[@Erickov]

I just wish they added more pedals into this nameless plugin like the reverb, delay comp etc.

[@kimseniorb]

Plague Scythe Studios so? I was testing it thoroughly for the past couple of days and I know how it sounds

[@Rushtallica]

Plague Scythe Studios: Yeah, they came off as being unaware of their own bias, which they were projecting onto you, lol. Anyone watching further would be aware that you were rating this one so highly regarding it's value and amount of tonal options (and I concur). Personally, while the Nameless plugin does sound brutal, it seems to lack body and as if it really could use another amp paired with it in a mix to sound its best. Really, IMO much of high gain (or even crunch) amp modeling sounds either harsh or a bit blunted due to trying to get digital clipping controlled enough to closely emulate tube gain, and I think after spending time going back and forth between my actual amps and amp sims that there is still away to go, though IMO the very clean tones seem to already have arrived. I'd personally go more for something with the more realistic sounding cleans and useful effects and serviceable gain sounds, such as with the Plini or Nolly plugins, though obviously everyone's mileage will vary. Nothing wrong with highly preferring a particular tone over a larger set of options, either.