List of sources used in this video (most of them are only available in Russian, but you can use Google Translate): 1) www.kp.ru/daily/27049/4115430/ 2) samlib.ru/n/nagaew_w_m/22.shtml 3) russian.rt.com/russia/article/606125-kolskii-poluostrov-pogibli-turisty 4) russian7.ru/post/chivruayskaya-tragediya-pochemu-ee-sravn/ 5) cont.ws/@valentindeg/1419006 6) tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2019818833-i7jAb.html 7) goarctic.ru/history/ne-tolko-gruppa-dyatlova-desyat-smertey-u-svyashchennogo-ozera/ 8) www.mvestnik.ru/crime/po-sledam-zametennym-desyatkami-zim/ 9) gipotezi.ru/sekretnye-materialy/pereval-dyatlova-na-chivruae 10) news.rambler.ru/other/41786563-kak-v-1973-godu-pri-strannyh-obstoyatelstvah-v-gorah-kolskogo-poluostrova-pogibli-turisty/ 11) dyatlovpass.com/chivruay-incident-2-ru 12) sgpress.ru/news/89391 13) www.gazeta.ru/culture/2019/02/20/a_12197059.shtml 14) 24smi.org/article/199626-47-let-so-dnia-chivruaiskoi-tragedii-chto-izvestno.html
@jeffreybaker43993 жыл бұрын
Archie, quick question, please feel free to correct my assumptions/math. This expedition starts on 25 January. Isn't that about 6 1/2 hours daylight at that time of year? It looks to be "enough" to carry out the hike, but it doesn't seem very inviting. Comment?
@katiekawaii3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being a responsible creator and citing your sources! So important, but sadly so rare.
@Rando_Shyte5 ай бұрын
Yeah how about using Celsius and KG so the entire world except for the US can understand wtf you are talking about
@K7classicrockfan3 жыл бұрын
One thing I've learned from these videos, russia's mountains don't want people there.
@toshiyaar78853 жыл бұрын
Totally! Marathoning them today today! Holy moly!
@poutinedream50663 жыл бұрын
And if it involves anything referred to as "a pass" I'm not goin.
@roberthickerty3903 жыл бұрын
It seems most of Russia does not like people.
@universalflamethrower63423 жыл бұрын
@@roberthickerty390 it sorta tolerates Russian, that is why the Russians can use their entire country as a bioweapon
@garymccallum6672 жыл бұрын
@@universalflamethrower6342How, did Russia create Covid?? So what are you talking about.
@eucliduschaumeau88133 жыл бұрын
Having studied Dyatlov Pass and the Korovina group. This was more related to the Dyatlov Pass Incident. There was no way they could survive these conditions. The weather was extreme, their gear and clothing was grossly insufficient, their skill levels were not sufficient for the conditions, they split up the group, they camped in a prone position and it became a "Perfect Storm" that nobody could have survived. At a temperature of -15 degrees Fahrenheit, the moisture in your nostrils will freeze temporarily when you breathe and with the wind-chill factor, any exposed skin will get frostbite.
@CoralHullforJesusChrist3 жыл бұрын
Re: comparison: Yes, ... but in the Dyatlov case, the weather wasn't extreme. Their gear and clothing were sufficient, at least until they fled the tent and their skill levels were definitely sufficient for the conditions, but not after fleeing the tent and being attacked. Mostly, they died as a combination of their injuries and hypothermia.
@eimsbush053 жыл бұрын
Can you explain what is meant by "When the two air streams collided it was like an explosion. The blast..." I mean its not actually an explosion I guess but I still can't find anything about those kinda phenomenons. Not even something comparable.
@corvusduluth3 жыл бұрын
@@eimsbush05 Katabatic winds.
@eimsbush053 жыл бұрын
@@corvusduluth Ah, thanks ;)
@poutinedream50663 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't walk to the store without half the North Face inventory.
@kikimii3 жыл бұрын
If you want to get rid of someone - just send them hiking in russia.
@pammaggio81353 жыл бұрын
FACTS!
@spiritmatter15533 жыл бұрын
Or send them cave diving.
@ericar31293 жыл бұрын
😂
@whyareyoulikethis28193 жыл бұрын
@@spiritmatter1553 or send them cave diving in Russia?
@larryarevalo45183 жыл бұрын
. . or get him to go car driving in Russia !
@banjoist1232 жыл бұрын
On one of the videos about the Dyatlov tragedy, it was explained that in Russia, "hiking" is what in the US we would call "mountaineering" or "mountain climbing". To us, a hike is something you do in the woods on a sunday afternoon in the summer. Apparently, this is a serious athletic pursuit in Russia, with clubs, organizations, and certifications based on performance and experience. I live in Texas, and the only thing that looks like a mountain around here is the sanitary landfill:) These are great videos. It is so common on YT for producers to use stock photos for everything. Yours are always either directly taken from the incident or at least related to the area. Thank you!
@mrOL1002 жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right. In Russia, "hiking" is usually something extreme.
@c.w.82002 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was wondering about this. In Alpine hiking you might have to climb some rocks and people do fall to their death regularly but what these Russians are doing fits better with what I would call mountaineering or even an expedition.
@fredgervinm.p.33152 жыл бұрын
I was in the service and know about forced marches and carrying an Alice pack. I always wondered why all these guys die "Hiking." Now mountain climbing is another thing...
@laius60472 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. I'm from Eastern Europe and my parents were doing plenty of hiking in those days. Hiking was hiking. It wasn't mountain climbing etc. There horror stories are horror for reason, it because of extremely bad decision making or bad weather or both. But in general it was usually just a group of people going for a hike with backpacks, tents, loads of fun etc. I even have a book from around 80's about hiking. There's food rationing, various techniques, survival tips etc. It's not considered mountaineering
@tashaderosier74242 жыл бұрын
The only mountain is the sanitary landfill, lmao 😂
@OlyviaGayl3 жыл бұрын
Rule Number One: Do NOT go hiking in mountains in Russia!
@ericar31293 жыл бұрын
😂😂 EXACTLY!!
@bogdangabrielonete34673 жыл бұрын
Rule Number Two: DO NOT go hiking in mountains in Russia *in the snow* !
@jamescooke72433 жыл бұрын
6ps - prior preparation prevents piss poor performance. A rule to live your life by and one that could save many lives
@samsadjahan10273 жыл бұрын
Was thinking same also feeling high urge to go there
@whitedragoness233 жыл бұрын
It’s like these mountains are luring people in despite being dangerous death zones
@yoursotruly3 жыл бұрын
No mystery, when you fight the mountain, it always wins. There is no possibility that the Soviet military was out in that storm, nobody was out there but them and the mountain.
@ericar31293 жыл бұрын
So you think the military doesn't have the proper gear and resources to survive? All militaries are known for pushing their soldiers to the limits of what a human can handle
@poutinedream50663 жыл бұрын
Where 15 degrees is considered "fairly mild " 😏 Just hearing that made my African ancestors shiver
@jamesharen86073 жыл бұрын
Well they were there so it's only logical that some other group of some type, such as military, could also be there for some reason..since its completly unknowable I wouldn't say "no way"..imagine if you were watching another story about two hikers that died of exposure in the same mountains and went to look up the date and realized it was that same storm...you'd probably would have said ."there's no way there was an expedition out there that could of rescued them"
@windyday68503 жыл бұрын
"Supernatutal forces drove them crazy" it's cold and this is actually a pretty natural force.
@nosuchthing83 жыл бұрын
@Chloe KM No that's not true. Supernatural means outside normal physics.
@mauricedavis82613 жыл бұрын
Not just natural, its "Supernatural!"🙏😬
@dessertstorm74763 жыл бұрын
But what about their eyeballs bro u can't explain that!
@windyday68503 жыл бұрын
@@dessertstorm7476 do you have cats or dogs? because well, make sure to not die alone because you won't have yours either. animals, man.
@toshiyaar78853 жыл бұрын
Yes... But super natural
@paulinag.24123 жыл бұрын
I've hiked in Khibiny mountains and Lovozerskie Tundry for 10 days in autumn. Weather was changing by the minute. Not very high mountains, but dangerous, because they are located that far north. So I don't think there is a need to look for another reason to explain the hikers' death.
@garymccallum6672 жыл бұрын
Mountain's don't need to be high, as I found out to my shock. Being caught out in a blizzard at the top of 🏴 highest (only 4500ft) I was in a group of 5 who spent the night on the north facing side, because we couldn't move any further because of the whiteout & the wind & ice. But obviously your more experienced in colder conditions than N.Scotland (Russia??) Sorry I've never heard of those mountain's, but the Tundra bit sounded Russian & bloody frozen 😁 Good luck in future venture's. (P.S) have u watched his other video of the 2021 Russian mountain incident ?? I know he's made 3 or 4 but only 1 as recent.🤞👍
@lisaskatesIRL Жыл бұрын
Never knew I was into mountaineering disasters....but here we are, 6 videos later. 😅 Thanks for your work and uploads!
@williebeamish5879 Жыл бұрын
Well, there's caving and diving disasters, too. But I tend to watch more mountaineering disasters myself, having lived up north in the winter for a long time. Have to have respect for nature.
@friibird Жыл бұрын
Same, but it made sense once I thought about it. Personally been into true crime content, docs about financial scandals, and natural/ man-made disaster breakdowns for a long time. I suppose these 'failed expedition' documentaries kind of fall close enough to all three.
@ladybugmom10 Жыл бұрын
Oh heck I’m at 20 2 weeks later 😮
@lisaanderson5747 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Was interested in Dyatlov Pass and found this channel.
@willyD2003 жыл бұрын
The Kola tragedy seems straigh forward. Not equipped sufficient enough for the environment. Birds or small animals would explain for the missing eyes, soft tissue would be exactly what small predators go for first. Onset of hypothermia would explain various garments being exchanged or off. I don't think anything sounds suspicious about this incident at all. The very high winds would lower the temperature down to deadly degrees, frostbite would happen fast and make everything else nearly impossible to accomplis , setting up a tent or starting a fire would be impossible. People continue to do irrational acts , learning nothing from their own or their peers experiences. Sad, but certainly nothing like the Dayatlov incident.
@noemyemma90352 жыл бұрын
I think its similar to the Dyatlov pass incident, with the missing eyes, tongue of one hiker and movement of the bodies, which could be explained by snow bulding up near the tent and eventually collapsing.
@edwigcarol4888 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely... Here our dear narrator adds unnecessary mystery stuff to support his story, which could be very short. 7 young people caught in a blizzard died of hypothermia. Period. The only mystery is how russian people could underestimate blizzards ? They are not from the tropical region !
@megansimonson3 жыл бұрын
Your editing is so enjoyable to watch and so well thought-out, I feel like I've stumbled upon a hidden gem of KZbin. :)
@compassioncampaigner7283 жыл бұрын
Precisely !
@jakeduddey83633 жыл бұрын
It is great to finally see a well deserved first ever video in english on the Chivruay Incident. The Group needed to also be recognized and hopefully this will start a chain reaction. Keep up the great work and I hopefully and truly look forward to if you make a video on Dyatlov's Pass. And I look forward to what's in the future to. To the memories of those who died in nature and the mountains and mostly to Groupa Chivruay, Groupa Korovina, Groupa Shatayeva and Groupa Dyatlova, you all are never forgotten!
@scallopohare94313 жыл бұрын
Groupa Shataeva? I know of the other three, actually just learned of Chivruay in this video.
@jakeduddey83633 жыл бұрын
@@scallopohare9431 , My bad for the late reply. Yes I mean't the Shatayeva group as I spelled the name wrong, that was led by Elvira Shatayeva that perished on Lenin Peak. I accidently spelled the name wrong. There is a video of this before the Chivruay video on this channel.
@cincin45152 жыл бұрын
That's a lot of groups.
@lauriepenner3502 жыл бұрын
A party of inexperienced hikers goes on a challenging hike, gets blindsided by a massive storm and freezes to death? Inconceivable!
@kdworak47542 жыл бұрын
Oh Laurie
@julzyboy89602 жыл бұрын
Oh Dworak
@drats1279 Жыл бұрын
Not inconceivable if you think past the end of your nose. People have got to know their limits based on knowledge and experience. Those who don't sometimes pay the price. There is an old saying for those who venture unprepared into adventures, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
@julzyboy8960 Жыл бұрын
@@drats1279 You're correct but Laurie was bieng sarcastic.
@aliciaacevesestrada89463 жыл бұрын
Cannot fandom how the algorithm showed me this channel but boy am I thankful. Pretty happy to be here at the beginning of such a promising channel.
@spiritmatter15533 жыл бұрын
*fathom. ☺️
@nerdisaur3 жыл бұрын
Wind of 110km/h at your back? You don’t even have to move at that speed, the wind will carry you on your skis
3 жыл бұрын
Not Km/h, MILES That's like 160 - 180 Km/h
@spiritmatter15533 жыл бұрын
And here I was about to say that 110 km = 68 miles.
3 жыл бұрын
@@spiritmatter1553 F 😅
@tabby733 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine they could even have stayed upright in those wind speeds.
@compassioncampaigner7283 жыл бұрын
Those winds are incomprehensible. Not only are they bio-mechanically a struggle (standing up, moving) but imagine how fast that movement of air can suck the heat from your body. Now....add wet or dump clothing to the wind abuse. Seems like only minutes would be needed to extinguish life....the human spirit's ability to inexplicably survive lethal challenges notwithstanding.l
@indi30663 жыл бұрын
As someone born in Russia i appreciate your impeccable pronouncing of Russian names)
@nerdisaur3 жыл бұрын
I can tell you’re Russian because your smiley face has no eyes :)
@indi30663 жыл бұрын
@@nerdisaur i was just born in Russia but I'm actually not Russian 😂
@Flint-Dibble-the-Don3 жыл бұрын
So..... nevermind.
@queengoblin3 жыл бұрын
@@indi3066 being born is Russia makes you Russian lol
@troubletime86843 жыл бұрын
Women with Russian accent always sounds (and look) sexy 😻
@bulllea3 жыл бұрын
there was probably some hundred cases like that in my country . and we have only some 2000 meters high mountains . nothing unusual here . "don't go hiking in the winter" , "be careful , mountain can kill you !" . I grew up with this things . it's common occurrence . every year some hikers will die . nothing supernatural , only elements and stupidity .
@rollotomassi82513 жыл бұрын
Where is your country? Same here in Sweden.
@whitedragoness233 жыл бұрын
Are they mainly tourist or locals?
@bulllea3 жыл бұрын
@@whitedragoness23 locals
@laius60472 жыл бұрын
Well people like "supernatural" stories and even romaticise tragedy. But in reality all of these accidents are bad weather, bad decision-making, and some bad luck. Nothing supernatural
@jonstfrancis3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a lovely place to hike.... but not in January!
@ericar31293 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for covering this! Everyone does Dyatlov, a few do Khamer Daban, NO ONE acknowledges this one.
@johnr7973 жыл бұрын
What is there to acknowledge? Hikers/skiers die of hypothermia all the time
@user-zg6kb7jf4l2 жыл бұрын
@@johnr797 Well, it is still pretty tragic and the victims should be remembered.
@brendanwood15403 жыл бұрын
Dehydrated bodies turn dark brown and leathery. Usually birds eat the eyes. It's not unusual to have a closed casket when bodies are exposed to the elements.
@bujfvjg72222 жыл бұрын
Ah, this is why the Egyptians had sarcophagi!
@miguelpereira98592 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you actually went visit one one of those remote russian regions, I bet many of these mystery youtubers and commentors baiting ridiculous theories would understand that it's not hard to imagine dying of cold in these russian mountains
@sarahwincer29903 жыл бұрын
It looks like you just started this channel a few months ago and if so I wanted to say that I love this content and the way you tell the stories! You tell these very clearly and have me on the edge of my seat. Also your sources and links are very professionally done. I look forward to more of your videos!
@McSnezzly3 жыл бұрын
Very cool that you went there yourself. It’s possible that more than one reason is the real reason. Mountains are considered holy places for many religions and cultures, and for good reason.
@megami.x3 жыл бұрын
So one of the hiker’s cousins had their car *coincidentally* spontaneously combust with him *coincidentally* inside it, the day before his trip to try to find out what happened? WTF is going on in the mountains of Russia?????
@tammyashley38163 жыл бұрын
Very good question. I do alot of hiking. I carry everything I need to survive for at least 3 days. Even on a 5 or 10km hikes. You can fall and become incapacitated. I'm 59 and very healthy but a bad fall could leave me in a bad spot.
@megami.x3 жыл бұрын
@@tammyashley3816 That sounds like a very smart thing to do! Do you also have a personal locator beacon? I saw someone recommending that on a video about missing hikers but I am not a hiker.
@tammyashley38163 жыл бұрын
@@megami.x Yes. Safety first. I have a lot of family that I have to think about. In the winter I snowshoe.
@theia16533 жыл бұрын
That was a bad omen.
@theia16533 жыл бұрын
@@tammyashley3816 Three weeks, from all the scary stories about the woods and mountains, plus gun and locator.
@eddiec45363 жыл бұрын
Humans are so vulnerable to extremes in weather. I think the official report sounds true. Great video and all your research you put into this story.
@queenbee63453 жыл бұрын
WOW, thanks again for your wonderful take on these situations. Such sad stories of death of such young lives lost. Enjoyed as always👏👏👏👏
@Darkkfated3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's all right there: At those elevations, with high humidity, and those temperatures, they would have needed Arctic-level clothing and gear to survive. It would have felt like negative God-knows-what and any exposed skin would have been frostbitten within minutes. And even if you do get out of the wind (in tents or whatnot), it's cold enough even without the windchill that staying warm enough to avoid hypothermia without some EXTREME cold weather gear is basically impossible. Sadly, they doomed themselves by walking into a high-altitude, Arctic-level blizzard dressed in clothing that was only sufficient for "really cold", not "going to the North Pole cold". But hey, I suppose that hypothesizing about conspiracies, super-human Military maneuvers, and mountain spirits is more dramatic.
@mrOL1002 жыл бұрын
In August 2021 I went camping hiking to Khibiny (Kola Peninsula) The weather changes literally in five minutes. The sun was just shining and now it's pouring a heavy downpour. We sat in the tent for a day and a half holding it by the walls so as not to be broken by the wind, I didn't even want to think what would happen if the tent was broken.
@mihaelachihai4047 Жыл бұрын
And, what happened? Weather became better? You renonced hiking and turned around?
@mrOL100 Жыл бұрын
@@mihaelachihai4047 After a strong wind was fine again, the sun was shining brightly. We continued our hike. The incident with the rain was remembered later and laughed. There was something to remember. The Khibiny mountains are very interesting
@percivalhowell75162 жыл бұрын
The expedition, led by a law student, a hiking club member, a singer, and a factory worker. Seems like sending cub scouts into the Himalayas.
@peteramirdjanov35782 жыл бұрын
I onced hiked during winter when I was 21. I had a good sleeping bag up to 15 f (extreme). Temperature fell to -13 F during the night. My friends who promised to take a small tent furnace decided to save weight and not take it. Luckily that was in European part of Russia in a forest, not very far from town, and terrain had no mountains. I had plenty of food. I spent 3 days unable to sleep - each night I was chopping dead pines with hand axe and was burning them in fire and they burnt extremely fast. After that funny adventure I decided that I never ever go on a multi day skiing hike during the winter. Why this story is relevant - other team members after this training went to similar winter hike in Khibiny mountains - not much far from the location of the tragedy described in the video. Everything went well for them, but they also decided not to continue with winter hikes. It was totally normal for students to go on such hike if they met difficulty category experience criteria.
@ytho88383 жыл бұрын
Most of the time the secret to those remarkable and weird happenings is pretty simple: A healthy body doesn’t just peacefully lie down and give in to a peaceful death. Survival instinct is our oldest, most primal and strongest instinct left. All kinds of (already mentioned) misfirings are about to happen. It’s gruesome, it’s primal but it’s not a yeti
@spiritmatter15533 жыл бұрын
People who die of hypothermia go pretty peacefully. They start to feel sleepy and warm. Then they fall asleep and die.
@ytho88383 жыл бұрын
@@spiritmatter1553 unless the compulsion to paradoxically undress hits you first
@katiekawaii3 жыл бұрын
And something as complex as the brain can start doing crazy things when any part of its normal functioning is disturbed. Even a simple lack of sleep can cause hallucinations and impaired decision-making.
@whitedragoness233 жыл бұрын
@@spiritmatter1553 I heard it can be hard to break someone out of that state. Is that true?
@tashaderosier74242 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a yeti.
@jimbob-robob2 жыл бұрын
The only mystery here is why they (or anyone) would go out there in the height of winter ..
@jchavez533 жыл бұрын
Easy on your map showing locations...my eyeballs were spinning so fast trying to follow along, I had no idea what you were talking about.
@whitedragoness233 жыл бұрын
It was dizzy wasn’t it? Good thing I mainly listen to KZbin vids with head phones
@jeffwoods44062 жыл бұрын
yeah I feel ya, hey @archie'sarchive can you also draw some lines on your maps so it's easier to follow?
@sithlordhibiscus99363 жыл бұрын
All indicators point to something completely natural BUT whenever you have a a gov't agency involved a/o silencing/restricting the press and the old "lost documents" excuse, it's suspect, unfortunately. I don't think the USSR had something to do with every single death that ever occurred or occurs in mountains.
@AntediluvianRomance3 жыл бұрын
That's why the USSR is always suspected. All they did was the usual press censoring and using its military as as emergency task force. And also have a lot of jobs in the homeland security / military related industry which were comfortable and well-paid enough for those people to afford a hobby like mountaineering. LOL.
@sithlordhibiscus99363 жыл бұрын
@@AntediluvianRomance Hmm that's interesting. I can appreciate it coming from a Russian (?) viewpoint, as well since we (all) have biased views of events or places based on what our governments allow us to see or know. We were not even told about Venera probes successfully landing on Venus, which is truly a global mission which deserved praise regardless of the Cold War a/o who was behind the success. Area 51 is a great example of one that our gov't censors though it's probably just a place for nuclear testing and not harbouring some type of alien life form. lol. Put another way, *I* don't think they're dissecting aliens or studying alien technology. lol. I would love to see the Kola peninsula and experience the odd weather patterns more so than wonder how they died as it does seem obvious that no foul play was involved.
@AntediluvianRomance3 жыл бұрын
@@sithlordhibiscus9936 There truly are some experiences which are quite familiar to the residents of the former Soviet territories. Like the general atmosphere and attitude one could expect, e.g. people's feelings not being a priority. Or keeping all the negative news out - including active serial killers who obviously weren't planted by government but could make the law enforcement look bad until they got caught. You get used to irresponsibility too. I am Russian, indeed, and I grew up hearing stories my family told me and watching our society progressing from that state to how it is now. My mother had been working for a high-security construction bureau for several years before she had me and was made to leave. It was a regular facility, located in a large city, and the engineers just signed a non-disclosure paper, that's all. So there was a bunch of such objects in many cities in addition to the full high-security towns and bases here and there which had really resticted access (like the nearby town around the atomic power station). I'm sure it's not unusual, but in the USSR all such objects could only be governmental, and that makes a lot of secret governmental jobs. My mom and her colleagues and friends were into local tourism themselves, but they usually went kayaking to the White Sea area, it was simple and affordable enough. It needs less special equipment than mountaineering. She told me about being careful with the weather, and usually people would check the forecast beforehand because not always they had means to re-check later. She also had her documents from another workplace lost in the 90s. Supposedly with a large part ot that company's archives. Those were harsh times and even the governmental structures cared less. There's also a long tradition of papers being lost in general. Come on, we still have medical records in paper, and they get lost every now and then. I haven't been to Kola peninsula myself, but it should be remembered that it's a very northern place. Like the north of Scandinavia and the nothern edge of mainland Canada. It's also strongly affected by the winds from the sea and sees generally high humidity. I've been to sothern humid mountains in Caucasus, and it's already chilly in the relatively low sightseeing areas, with clouds crawling around down the slopes. It feels weird sometimes strolling through the fog on our tame and flat 60th parallel. I can't imagine what it would feel like to wander through a low cloud in the area where the average temperature in July, the height of summer, is about 50°F. I mean, people get paid more and retire earlier just for living in that area. Those must be quite beautiful but unfriendly places.
@girlfriday12993 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your stories! It certainly makes you wonder about the mountains of Russia! Good luck with your channel! 👍👍
@compassioncampaigner7283 жыл бұрын
This channel is a gem !
@isirlasplace913 жыл бұрын
Excited to watch another of your videos!!
@deannilvalli65793 жыл бұрын
I find absolutely nothing about this case to be mysterious or unexplainable. People just enjoy finding more bizarre reasons to explain why people die.
@bujfvjg72222 жыл бұрын
Can one will thyself to death? What about spontaneous combustion? Is that bizarre more than uncanny? Using Occam's razorz it's get you nowhere with these! Lolz
@evab.62403 жыл бұрын
You channel is bound to go viral. Good work!
@grumpyguy28773 жыл бұрын
Good Video. I think the weather and lack of preparation doomed them. The 110 Km winds (Approximately 70 MPH) disoriented them and lead to their deaths May they Rest In Peace
@soyounoat3 жыл бұрын
Two colliding air streams "squeezed people's eyeballs from their sockets and tore their eardrums", or possibly there was an ice storm in hell.
@poutinedream50663 жыл бұрын
I was wondering is this really a thing. In the 70s, the Soviet Union and China would tell mfs anything
@stanislavkostarnov21572 жыл бұрын
not squeezing out eyeballs maybe, but certainly wind can leave quite bad bruises (personally had that happen) or, how about sanding the skin with ice particles to the level when it bleeds (also from experience...) 200knots wind with flying hardened diamond-like ice crystals can do all sorts of nasty things to you!
@kpd33082 жыл бұрын
It is BS
@theweedusama3 жыл бұрын
Great channel...love the editing and storytelling! Glad I found this
@murph71412 жыл бұрын
I tend to binge watch videos like this as well as cave diving and other exploring type situations and I always think the same thing, man, I wish I had even a third of the nerve people who do this stuff have but I'm also extremely thankful I don't. Terrifying
@rtqii2 жыл бұрын
And truly horrible deaths... The Nutty Putty and Sand Cave incidents. I have done some caving, but will never go underground again. I am also terrified of heights and I cannot even watch some of the KZbins of BASE jumping and wingsuit dives without experiencing distress. I recently watched some unforgettable video of a BASE jumper who had become overconfident, and they were jumping from a cliff into a valley in a National Park where the jumps were banned, and park rangers were waiting to arrest people below. This woman was wearing a striped prison costume for her jump. It turned out the Park Service was seizing the parachutes of the jumpers after they landed as part of the arrests, so this woman was not wearing her regular rig. She jumps, I have never seen the video of her impact with the ground... But you can hear it on several recordings. The video shows that she was reaching for the chute release, but she was not using her regular rig, and the chute release was located in a different place... She did not have time to figure out the mistake.
@murph71412 жыл бұрын
@@rtqii horrifying
@Bee-jq2yi Жыл бұрын
I know this comment is a year old but if you know any channels like this that also discuss cave dive incidents I’d love to check them out
@murph7141 Жыл бұрын
@@Bee-jq2yi kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJDRmWR6rb6LZsk Here is one.
@stanislavkostarnov21572 жыл бұрын
different massif, nearer to Apatittyy city, but just to give you an idea of winter conditions...: fog, snow blows at such speeds that the wall of wind feels more solid than the soft moving snow beneath you feet... things such as smaller stones, logs, and the touring-kettle full of water is blowing away, and it is difficult to keep anything on the ground. low density, plus high winds, means that any fire tends to become smothered, the air gives cold burns any exposed parts of skin. strip-mine tractor headlights become totally invisible at a dozen feet, a flame or torch light shines a couple of inches from it's source... and this weather can last for hours, days or a couple of weeks. (15 days non stop and a few 10 - 200 hour long smaller storms in those 40 days that we were there)
@autarko2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's incredible. Surely nobody would go out camping by choice if there was any risk of those conditions! 40 days of hell for you.
@stanislavkostarnov21572 жыл бұрын
@@autarko my trip was visiting a research group, but, there are types of people who enjoy that kind of thing... and some of them are my fairly close friends... it's like with any extreme sport... a form of adrenaline / pain-addiction... those who become "into it" cannot think of anything else... basically, it is a chemical addiction to something your brain produces when under extreme pain. though probably the sense of achievement is also a significant part of it.
@stanislavkostarnov21572 жыл бұрын
@@autarko would not say it was hell, at least not to the young me at the time... I would not go there myself voluntarily, but... in the group I was in (the friends I mentioned in my other comments) it was almost fun... definitely an experience I will long remember and share with them. I mean, for them, having those acquaintances of a friend on the research group (my cousin and his friend) was just an excuse to get out there...
@autarko2 жыл бұрын
@@stanislavkostarnov2157 I can understand that. Achieving together through adversity builds strong friendship and also mental toughness. I would mainly be concerned that the conditions are so changeable that you'd need to be somewhat prepared for the worst whenever you go out. It's also good to realise when in company that the most dominant personality is not always the most careful or empathetic.
@autarko2 жыл бұрын
And people tend to have a false sense of safety in numbers.
@jubran74693 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, thank you for the content!
@shoutitallloud3 жыл бұрын
You have very interesting channel. I never knew about those mountain incedents,except "Dyatlov pass" story. P.s. I'm from Russia.
@welsh.truth.dragon39143 жыл бұрын
Check out the khamar debar incident
@shoutitallloud3 жыл бұрын
@@welsh.truth.dragon3914 I did. I never knew about it until watching this channel
@alandolezalek90882 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Easy to follow with great details. Feels very real. Well researched. Being in the situation of the hikers gives me shivers.
@rtqii2 жыл бұрын
They thought they were going to Club Med in Jan 1973... I can tell you without having to read any reports that they were very poorly equipped to deal with cold or wet weather. It is frequently the combination that kills trekkers. The best insulator in their kit would have been wool, the tarp was heavy canvas with no insulation value. None of the fabrics had the ability to retain heat when wet. To someone with experience and modern equipment (in 1970's Russia you borrowed mittens for the trip from a family member) you can stay dry as the rain changes to sleet, then snow, the wind blows, the temps drop like a rock... Either you are dry and cold, or you are dead or near death depending on your experience and equipment. They got wet, cold, they were at high altitude with high wind chills and falling temperatures.
@djohnson90833 жыл бұрын
Your videos are interesting and informative. There is so much to learn! I also liked seeing you on the ski slopes near to the tragedy.
@ArchiesArchive3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Ski slopes are on the other side of the mountain range, not exactly where all that happened.
@elbaestridge65033 жыл бұрын
Good work. Lucky to find your channel. Looking forward for more 👍.
@AutumnWind923 жыл бұрын
Instantly subbed. Not annoying voice talking about soviet conspiracies. I grew up with those stories. Also mph/farenheit....why?
@erynlasgalen19493 жыл бұрын
Probably to make it more understandable to the US audience. Metric is for the scientists, but our below zero is colder than the metric below zero.
@AutumnWind923 жыл бұрын
@@erynlasgalen1949 US sure but the whole world uses metric system. Couldn't hurt to at least show the metric system on the screen now could it?
@emmalikesflowers3 жыл бұрын
Of course I had to look up temperature converter to see what -30F was at Celsius and apparently it’s -34.4C. I can’t wrap my head around this😳
@frost11832 жыл бұрын
I’ve been too the Kola Peninsula in the coldest month. I can tell you it’s brutal. It’s almost shocking.
@praneethlokini65573 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to more videos like this 👍🏻
@jjroyal85303 жыл бұрын
Great story, I wonder if we’ll ever find out what happened , great Channel, best of luck from Ireland ! ! !
@nosuchthing83 жыл бұрын
At those temps, with inadequate clothing, the wind would cut right through you.
@elliebellie78162 жыл бұрын
Experienced hiker/mountain climber here. Being unprepared for almost anything is the most common problem in these situations where death occurs. People think help is just around the corner and that it can't possibly be them that will break a leg and require extensive experienced help to muster them down a trail.
@shainmikulik25672 жыл бұрын
Me : "Wait, wtf do you mean the time of death is based on when their watch stopped? What kinda woowoo crap is that?" 30sec later : "Watches stopping at the time of death isn't anything mystical, it just happens when the body gets cold enough that the internal mechanisms seize." Me : "Oh... ._. "
@veronicaeverest81502 жыл бұрын
This has been brought up in a few of these mountaineering death stories and I always wondered why it kept being said.
@changeshifter48522 жыл бұрын
You showed up in my feed yesterday so this is in thanks to the algorithm gods. I am in Canada and only knew about the Dyatlov Pass story before your channel so I have subbed and will enjoy bingeing the others. One English tip for you: you spoke of a plaque on a memorial and pronounced it as 'playgue'. That pronunciation denotes a widespread disease. Same word pronounced 'plak' describes the (usually) cast metal plate with text you find affixed to a memorial/post. Excellent English otherwise :)
@AJShiningThreads2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone doing these stories who has actual outdoor experience!
@randomusername52422 жыл бұрын
Its definitely interesting the amount of college student hiking groups that operated in the Soviet Union. I'm interested in what the motivation for such activity was.
@hannak78612 жыл бұрын
Hiking and other sport activities among students were encouraged and supported by the Soviet government in order to build character and prepare young people for the hardships of Soviet life.
@randomusername52422 жыл бұрын
@@hannak7861 I wonder if there could be a way to adopt this without the drive for preparation for socialism.
@shinjukucalling7633 жыл бұрын
Bro you deserve so many fuckin subscribers. Keep going!
@shiftxrqt3 жыл бұрын
Not even Russian bears hike in winter,
@CheetahSnowLeopard Жыл бұрын
Archie, you do a great job with these videos.
@cali.girllivinnnevada8 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I hope you cover or have already covered the Dyatlov Pass incident 🤞🏼 because I have been binging your videos for the past 24 hours straight! 🤤
@whackyjinak49783 жыл бұрын
Don’t fight the mountain, you’ll always lose..
@kailaayling99893 жыл бұрын
big ;ove uk awesome content dyatlov pass and the Korovina incident so sad and extremely strange !
@welsh.truth.dragon39143 жыл бұрын
The kamahar debar is exactly the same as this incident. Again Russian
@nicolethorson81862 жыл бұрын
Can we all just agree hiking in Russia is off limits? Those mountains are killing the bejesus out of people.
@michaelhoran407 Жыл бұрын
Re: Kola Peninsula, Hibiny mountains,Lovozero massif, from Revda via Sedezero lake to Lovozero plateau. There’s a monument on the plateau to a large group of hikers from Murmanskaya who died of exposure and hypothermia during a violent storm on the plateau.
@wendys3903 жыл бұрын
It's true the Soviets weren't allowed to communicate at all. Nothing of information ever came out of there, until the USSR was over.
@wendys3903 жыл бұрын
Narrator, you sound like Steve Martin's "Wild and Crazy Guy" from old SNL. It's a good thing :)
@scallopohare94313 жыл бұрын
That combination of low temperature and high humidity must be rare. Probably no one expected it, or was prepared.
@shotforshot59832 жыл бұрын
With wind speeds that high, there is no way to erect a tent. Especially canvas, toggle flapped ones that they likely had. The only thing you can do is dig into the snow and even that is not guaranteed. Your dug out may continually collapse, it may not be snow capable of sticking together (more like granules) and the snow itself may simply not be deep enough. And also digging in with skiis or your hands is not good. I carry an old army entrenching tool-you can even harvest fire wood with it, ward off animals, drive stakes etc. Second piece of experience is to carry a spare pair of mittens! If your mittens get wet, get lost in the snow, torn off during a fall... once your hands are frozen, you're pretty screwed.
@TheJasonx72 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using Fahrenheit and Celsius in the temperature reading. Celsius is confusing so I appreciate that alot.
@Rkalmin2 жыл бұрын
this video is cool but the main reason I'm upvoting it it's the first time I've seen someone mention the Dyatlov Pass who actually knows how to pronounce 'Dyatlov'
@javelin603 жыл бұрын
Nature and mountains. When they turn against you - there is only one outcome.
@JustAllinOneResource Жыл бұрын
It's very simple what happened. The weather changed dramatically, and in a very short time, and decided to continue on, however they pushed themselves too hard, which led them to realize their mistake, and they began to freeze, become hypothermic which further caused confusion, and panic. The separating of the group was most likely due to witnessing the first five men who may have stopped out of exhaustion, and hyperthermia, dropped, and gave up. The others decided to keep moving to find better cover from the storm but they soon found that there was no place to hide from the storm. The gentleman who gave his clothing to keep the other warm is a grand gesture of kindness, compassion, and love for another. The gentleman who was found facing the direction of the five who already have died most likely regretted his decision to continue on, and try to make his way back to the five men who have already passed away. In all, they just froze to death, and that is it. No, aliens didn't come down, and do a nasty, and no government secret project took place, and no rockets. Come on people, this is not rocket science. They simply froze to death. They thought themselves to be invincible which most young do only to find out that they are not fit enough to face something this incredible, and fierce. Even the strongest would have succumbed to this. As far as the missing eyes, that is interesting but I highly doubt aliens travel billions of lightyears to pluck out the eyes of the dead. I'm sure they have cattle to mutilate or have better things to do like probe people on a Friday night in the USA.
@babybear23952 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS CHANNEL ! ❤ 😍
@susanhooper64313 жыл бұрын
if it was one of the groups birthdays maybe they drank too much and decided they didnt need to sleep or wait til the morning and like a lot of young people when drunk thought they were invinsible to any danger? just a thought.
@alinonymous2 жыл бұрын
A heroic ethos is cultivated at a cost. Notice that all, or most of, the expedition's members had high-level training in positive sciences, which emphasize reasoning by extrapolation. In general, these people scorn talk of the extraordinary, the erratic, the unpredictable; they are inclined to reduce life to a bunch of scientifically identifiable regularities. That there's simply more to it than the calculable has been tragically proven, though. One has to be Russian to understand the unbridled positivism promoted by the Soviets, with math and physics practically elevated to a religious status--one truth, one party, one reality, one economic plan, one healthy outlook on life, etc. Thinking up a plan B was often seen as a suspicious form of defeatism and irresoluteness. Definitely heroism was praised way above prudence, as the Soviet space program, or the Chernobyl disaster, clearly illustrated. Briefly, when put in their right ideological context, accidents like this appear not so... accidental.
@charliekezza2 жыл бұрын
When a copse is missing eyes it's not supernatural it's birds or small rodents, very natural. Creepy but natural.
@velentr Жыл бұрын
Same thing regarding the tongue.
@luxborealis3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I’ve been there. Didn’t know about this.
@frankblangeard8865 Жыл бұрын
The mistake that they made was going backpacking in the middle of winter in Russia.
@positiveandhealthy27283 жыл бұрын
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@mikemhoon3 жыл бұрын
Seems like all these guys were amateurs! Proves just because you’re an engineer don’t mean you know how to survive in the wild! And not to smart going hiking in the winter! Just not smart at all!
@samsadjahan10273 жыл бұрын
To me this incident has least mysterious item. They were hit by ice storm and frozen to death. Like the incident of Lenin peak
@magnetarlyfe3 жыл бұрын
These are so interesting!
@kopczas3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, give us more!!!
@robtopping78112 жыл бұрын
Most experienced hiking teams have a plan for worsening weather conditions , freezing conditions is usually a priority in those plans , yet so many people perish from hypothermia again and again .
@nr17852 жыл бұрын
You don’t realise how quickly hypothermia can overtake you until it happens to you. It’s really one of the most mysterious conditions due to how quickly it can happen and the fact that so many people are uneducated about it.
@heatherbowlan19612 жыл бұрын
The same thing that happened to the other groups off people the were crazy enough to venture off into unknown weather and snow mysteries at high levels.,I’ve watch most of the hikers stories, they all have some similarity’s like the eyes missing, crazy happening, so why do they put their lives in danger
@illuminutty97233 жыл бұрын
I now understand this fascination with snow mountains, you are a hiker yourself. Always good to write about your passion. Dunno why its about tragedies, but you do you
@ZatoichiBisch Жыл бұрын
AYE, ONE DUDES NOT WRONG! There is something about high pressure air and low pressure air coming together, as well as hot and cold air, and from what little I actually understand thays kinda how tornados and hurricanes and things like that form anyways? Either way dude gave a pretty good scientific explanation for his belief as to how their eyes popped out of their heads, might even consider that theory for Dyatlov. ALSO, I did not recognize wind blowing that hard could suck the oxygen out of an area or whatever. I've gone 80-90 mph before hanging out of the window of my car with wind blasting me in the face and I'm just like "OH I SEE WHY DOGS LOVE THIS, THIS IS AWESOME I COULD EVEN-- ACK GAH BLAH! EW! BUG!"
@veneraberens46532 жыл бұрын
😳WOWWWWWWWW THEY DID EVERYTHING WRONG YOU COULD DO WRONG DANGEROUSLY BUT STILL MAKES YOU WONDER WHERE THEIR EYES WENT NOT YELLING ALMOST COMPLETELY BLIND
@nr17852 жыл бұрын
TAKEN BY ANIMALS.
@mauricedavis82613 жыл бұрын
Another great channel!!!🙏👍😷
@Iamthelolrus3 жыл бұрын
The storm caused spontaneous eye explosion? Uhhh, yeah... Might want to look into that claim a little more b4 repeating it. lol. Don't get me wrong I love your videos. Just don't go all "Ancient Aliens" on us please.
@h.chappelle27202 жыл бұрын
Instead of going to the beach and sipping drinks, they go hiking to the Russian mountains -50 F and 110 wind speed.