ARE AMD X870 & X870E BOARDS WORTH IT? - Round-Up, Pricing & My Thoughts! [4K]

[@jordanash]

*A little PSA* - Sorry for the cut in the video, I tried to clarify some info on the Strix X870E-E, but it seems there was still part I wasn't right about, so have cut it out. These boards are extremely complex below the surface and there are still things I am learning about myself, so please bear with me.

[@jrwong2181]

The tomahawk look amazing best looking board simple and sleek.

[@jordanash]

Nice, isn't it :)

[@billnwa2250]

Thanks for getting to the bottom of the pcie lane topic. Very helpful. I'm enjoying your content.

[@jordanash]

No worries, thank you.

[@taomahNEGEV]

The B650 is still good enough for gaming hopefully even under the 9800X3D.

[@jordanash]

If you don't need lots of drives or extra devices, for sure.

[@taomahNEGEV]

@@jordanash No thanks.

[@jordanash]

Exactly, it's fine for your use case. Varies on the person like I mentioned in the video :)

[@Glob3Tech]

Cheers for the shout-out! ❤

[@jordanash]

My pleasure! Thanks for the info

[@simplysimon966]

nice video, look forward to the builds

[@jordanash]

Thank you

[@mikek5631]

Thanks for the videos on these newer chipsets. I'm interested in finally getting on the AM5 platform and am between these and x670e boards. Will be interested in your future build videos to see if they've been able to cut down on the boot up times with these newer boards. That was a major complaint from early adopters and the b650 boards.

[@jordanash]

You're welcome. Yeah MSI had problems with theirs but I don't think I had any issue with the boards I used. Hopefully they'll be alright.

[@kenny10497]

it doesn´t pay for me to upgrade from a B650E to X870 only difference is the USB speed

[@jordanash]

Yep! Exactly the scenario I had hoped this video would help with.

[@Gielderst]

Hi, great video. I've been wondering if i should try to get an X870E mobo. Currently i have a GIGABYTE X670E Aorus Master mobo with a 7950X3D CPU. I'm an enthusiast and also want to get a 9950X3D, when it comes out, and would like to pair it with the best X870E mobo. But i've researched that alot of these new mobos have the PCIE lane sharing for example when you populate all of the M.2 slots, the PCIE 5.0 x16 slot drops to x8. I really don't like this at all because currently on my X670E Aorus Master mobo, i have all the M.2 slots occupied with NVMe SSDs and the PCIE 5.0 x16 slot still remains at x16 which is how i want it to be. So far i've only found out that the only X870E mobo which does not cut lanes, is the ASRock X870E Taichi mobo. And that makes me wonder if there's any other X870E mobos like that or is the Taichi the only one? I also wonder if i should even bother getting an X870E mobo or just wait till the 9950X3D is released and only upgrade my CPU, cause i don't really need USB4 or WiFi7. Any advice is welcome. :)

[@jordanash]

Thank you! The last part, upgrade the CPU and keep your motherboard as is. That being said, the 9950X3D might not even be worth the upgrade anyway,... I expect you will, but wait for reviews first as the 7950X3D could still be the best AM5 CPU.

[@RenasAmas]

@@Gielderst Hi! Do you think ASRock x870e Taichi is the best mobo for Gen5 Ssd + Pcie 5.0 new graphics cards? I am searching too :D

[@jordanash]

I don't think they have it, they were thinking about upgrading. I expect someone has reviewed it though

[@Gielderst]

Hi, i've already ordered an ASRock X870E NOVA WIFI because it's pretty much like the Taichi. Except that it's much cheaper and has 5 M.2 slots compared to the Taichi's 4 slots. From my own personal research i've done. I've found out that most X870E mobos have PCIE lane sharing. But ASRock's X870E mobos do not have it, while MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS all have it on their mobos, which to me makes all of them inferior. Also ASRock's mobos have to lowest prices. And from what i've gathered, the X870E NOVA WIFI is even better than the Taichi due to being cheaper but and having even better specs than the Taichi with the 5 M.2 slots. Also the NOVA has a nice backplate the same as the Taichi. NOVA is the best mobo out of all the rest for what it offers at the price it goes for. I think it's the best X870E mobo out there.

[@jordanash]

The Nova I mentioned in the round up, certainly seems to be the best bang for buck X870E Edit, this video 😂

[@mthomas6]

A Nova Asrock 870E build would be Awesome.

[@jordanash]

WIl see what I can do.

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Nice video. I Noticed you didn't have some models from other Asus series - any chance you might do a video with them sometime?

[@jordanash]

The others are being rotated due to limited amounts, but I'm trying to get the X870-A next. Any specific ones you'd like to see?

[@jasonkustra5671]

Asrock 870E Nova caught my attention but i can’t find it for sale anywhere yet😮

[@jordanash]

Looks good doesn't it

[@arthur_pd]

the nova wifi will arrive onm the second patch of x870e boards, wait about 1-2 weeks later, im alos getting that board

[@sonofgodraj]

It's on Newegg

[@jordanash]

Updated the links in the description with the Nova too, Amazon US and UK

[@jamesp2218]

Question: What is max no. displays (4K @ 60Hz) which can be connected to these X870/X870E boards, to be driven from iGPU on 9900X? I understand all these boards have 1x HDMI and 2x USB 4 (supporting DP over USB). In principle, each USB 4 port could output to two 4K displays @ 60Hz (using an MST USB-C to dual DP adaptor). So I wonder whether it might be possible to drive FOUR, or even FIVE 4K @ 60Hz displays from the iGPU via X870/X870E Mobo? (of course, another limitation is max no 4K @ 60Hz displays supported by 9900X iGPU itself, I heard this might be a max of FOUR, but unconfirmed?) I am planning new build using Ryzen 9900X and an X870/X870E Mobo. Will not be used for gaming, for productivity only. I won’t install a discrete graphics card, will rely only on integrated graphics. I wonder if the answer is the SAME for all these X870/X870E Mobos, or would some of them allow to connect more 4K displays than others?

[@jordanash]

I recall someone else saying two 4K @ 60hz is the limit otherwise the refresh rate takes a nosedive. Seems to be the same across all the boards, I've done overviews on each of these and they all had the same spec. Also, five monitors on a board feels like you'd be pushing your luck. unless you *need* a half-height case, I don't see the need to push a board that much anyway when you could add a GPU which could easily drive four 4k monitors. It can benefit productivity anyway, not to mention that it'll take the pressure off the rest of the system.

[@OptimizingNetwork]

Yes and no to that question If you are on on flagships of X670E, no If you are not, perhaps If you overclock your RAM past 6000 mhz you should definitely go X870E On the subject of PCIE Gen 5 x16 slots: RTX 5080 and RTX 5090 are already Gen 5 x16, so, if you actually want max performance out of your GPU that you purchase, then Gen 5 is a requirement, not a maybe Be that on X670E or X870E, or X670 or X870

[@jordanash]

For sure there are some other yes or no answers, but I wanted to keep the video concise. I've run 7200mhz on B650E, so I wouldn't say you need an X870E just for that. Yeah for sure you'll need Gen 5 for those, but not everyone will want to buy the 5080/90 cards. Most people that comment on my build videos and those asking for advice aren't even running a current get 40 series or 7XXX card.

[@techremap]

How is the memory training for x870?

[@jordanash]

Not had a chance to try it yet sorry, builds will be soon though.

[@nebojsamamula1444]

My personal thought is if u have x670e or b650e no need for throwing money..

[@jordanash]

Yeah, pretty much what I said ☺️

[@flaccus123]

I think if you run your 40 series GPU at 8x speed in PCI-e 5.0 slot it won't be the equivalent of PCI-e 4.0 at 16x. This is because the 40 series only supports 4.0 standard. It can't take advantage of 5.0 bandwidth so will run at 4.0 8x speeds

[@jordanash]

Yeah, don't worry that's the part I mentioned I'm removing in the pinned comment. It should be cut out of the video by now, but if you can still see it then it must be a server issue.

[@flaccus123]

Ah, fair enough. I see that part is removed now. Seems the x670e-e might be a better buy if you don't need USB 4.0 as it can manage 2 gen 5 M2's with no lane sharing and a single gen4 M2. The x870e-e can do only 1 gen5 M2 and 2 gen4 M2's without lane sharing but doesn't have the PCIe 4.0 4x slot. Still I like the quick release M2.

[@jordanash]

Yep, hopefully you saw it but I mentioned X670E is still a great chipset in the conclusion

[@SPSteve]

As soon as the 9800X3D CPU is available I'll be buying a motherboard. I like the Aorus Elite and the Tomahawk, but the Tomahawk is ugly so I'll probably buy the Aorus Elite. But if the Tomahawk's performance is significantly better, I would choose it. I'd like to see a 9950X, 9800X3D, 9950X3D, DDR5 8000, DDR5 7200, DDR5 6000, MVMe 5.0x4 test using the X870 boards.

[@jordanash]

You don't want much, do ya 😋 only playing. I've already asked Scan about the 9800X3D, but not sure if I can get the others too though, but time will tell. Will see what I can do if so

[@SPSteve]

@@jordanash Yes, that's a long and expensive list. Just trying to see real world tests of what I want to build. I'm waiting for the 9800X3D to be available and then I'll buy a motherboard. Also waiting for the 5090/5080 to release. I'm replacing my 5950X 3090Ti machine that I'll pass on to my youngest son.

[@jordanash]

I'll get what I can but I'll likely have to get it through Scan as AMD have limited amounts, so it depends how much budget they can spare. I will ask either way.

[@SPSteve]

@@jordanash I appreciate it!

[@jordanash]

No worries!

[@thedominicancapo]

Is it worth upgrading from b650 to x870 in preparation for the rtx 5090?

[@jordanash]

Nah that's just going from B650 to B650E essentially. If you need more function then go X670E with a Gen 5 PCIE. Plus, if you're looking to run a 5090, surely you'd be running a higher CPU that should be in a higher end board anyway?

[@thedominicancapo]

@@jordanash I'm currently using the 7800x3D

[@jordanash]

Looks like the 5090 will *need* a Gen 5 PCIe lane, so I'd get a X670E with a Gen 5 PCIe. They'll be cheaper now anyway. That being said, you're not worried about saving a bit of money if you're buying a 5090.

[@Straight_up_sav]

Legend!

[@jordanash]

Thanks, mate!

[@koraykorac5463]

All motherborads you give are very very expensive. Asrock X870 Pro RS is good for price and have almost evrerything you need.

[@jordanash]

I mentioned in the video I couldn't get anything from ASRock, plus I also mentioned X870 is just B650E, so you could just get B650E if you need something cheaper.

[@aliensounddigital8729]

If the boards have what you are looking for then yes. Just know that the boards are usually overpriced and maybe a x600 series will be cheaper and still have what you are looking for.

[@jordanash]

Yeah, like I said if you're coming from AM4 then X670E would be good

[@robertmorrison4020]

Out of the ones in the video, no. Only one I think is worth it is the Asrock Nova if the price is around $300.

[@jordanash]

I mentioned that one in the video, it's £339 which works out at $450

[@trungnuhwen]

Sad that their no macro atx

[@jordanash]

Hopefully soon, I'm sure B850 will have some

[@kewtd72]

There is no point of upgrading these boards do not give any sort of performance boost , the only thing they offer are the fast usb which is no big deal. What a waste of money and time waiting on something that is no better than a 670e series, very disappointed for me as i am building a unique custom pc in a corsair 1000d case. Well hopefully one positive out of this is that the 670 n 790 series will drop in price.

[@jordanash]

Yep, just for those looking for the USB throughput. Yes, I mentioned the prices dropping but cut it out, that'll be great for people upgrading from AM4.

[@kewtd72]

@@jordanash I am using the 5950x right now with 128ddr4 and a 7900xt, i was going to grab the 870 boards cause i want to build a seperate rig purely for gaming but now seeing all these reviews and actually being tricked into something that is nothing i am going to stick with the 670e series. As for ram who in their right mind would want 8000mhz seriously i think its more bragging rights than it will actually give any sort of performance for gaming. Rendering and 3d creation sure, but not gaming. As for pcie5 no gpu out there uses it and its more a selling tactic like them adding AI into their titles.

[@jordanash]

I think the Nitrodimm thing would be more popular if it wasn't on the two most expensive boards, but some might like to have ram that fast, I guess if you can run it why not right. In terms of boards, X670E will be a banger to buy now, especially as it'll become cheaper