Are Any MH370 Conspiracy Theories True? | MH370 EXPLAINED Part II

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@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 11 ай бұрын
Small correction: the MQ-1C has a range of up to 750 miles from the controller. This means it theoretically could have flown from a U.S. Air Base in Singapore, but it would have had to already been in the area to catch up to the 777.
@iuhpyongdangh
@iuhpyongdangh 11 ай бұрын
You have fantastic hair, Aiden, fuck the haters.
@freduklernas3637
@freduklernas3637 11 ай бұрын
Diego garcia is americas biggest base and it monitors inter alia russua to the north .. China and north korea to the east.. Who in his right mibd can believe MH 370 was not veing monitored? if thats the case , just close Diego Garcia and save american voters hundreds of billions of dollars each year....
@ipuntturtlezz4632
@ipuntturtlezz4632 11 ай бұрын
Usually drones, while slow, are sent up to circle an area at a high altitude and then take video or photos of an area. I believe the MQ-1 has a service ceiling of 60,000 ft, which is way higher than what any airliner would fly. They have super strong cameras that can capture high quality video from far away, so if this truly was a drone, then it is possible to circle above at a slow speed and still track the plane with the camera. Even if they were at a close altitude, the camera would be able to zoom in and out to a degree that it could track the plane without having to keep pace. At the very start of the drone video, the thermal you see on the edges is actually the drone itself, so it already appears as if the drone is looking back and down from its orientation, suggesting its either circling or flying away from where the airliner is going. I am in Air Force ROTC and we learn about drones a lot and how they are specifically utilized for surveillance.
@geoffsharp2436
@geoffsharp2436 11 ай бұрын
The drone had been tested to over 40 hours of flight time, so is capable of reaching the intersect point from several air bases. There are also several Indian runways on the Nicobar islands that may have been utilised..Ashton is looking into it.
@yvindwestersund9720
@yvindwestersund9720 11 ай бұрын
I've heard a story that mh 370 was flying over the Andaman sea and then south to a point of the coast of Sumatra Where it supposedly was flying in a holding pattern for over an hour before then flying on either south ore west different descriptions but the main thing is that holding pattern Can't remember were I saw it but I know it was talked about even in the news at the time Just wanted to throw in my two cents on this matter Keep up the good work Just saying 🇳🇴
@TwentyGX
@TwentyGX 10 ай бұрын
33:25 slight correction here: a fire extinguisher is actually not able to handle a single lithium-ion battery fire. Lithium-ion battery fires are particularly terrifying, as they are capable of creating their own oxygen supply as they burn. Even more concerning, they’re able to break down the carbon dioxide from traditional fire extinguishers into just carbon and dioxide, meaning that they will use fire extinguishers *as an oxygen supply*
@theresachung703
@theresachung703 9 ай бұрын
Terrifying!
@vipvip-tf9rw
@vipvip-tf9rw 8 ай бұрын
Isn't Halon extinguisher used on planes?
@MokonaTome
@MokonaTome 8 ай бұрын
Halon? No it was replaced with halotron and halotron extinguishers use nitrogen or argon as the expelling gas, as far as in aware they don't allow thin wall compressed gas cylinders of either on planes.
@bricedesmaures6216
@bricedesmaures6216 8 ай бұрын
@@vipvip-tf9rw Yes. For fire supressionn in 777 cargo compartment, 5 bottles of halon. Bottles discharged in sequence et slowly for the 3 after the fist 2 used as "knock out" effect.
@aninternentdiary
@aninternentdiary 8 ай бұрын
The more you know!!!
@graymd2003
@graymd2003 11 ай бұрын
“Dude we’re not plants” That’s exactly what a tree who didn’t want to be called out as a tree would say
@musicalneptunian
@musicalneptunian 11 ай бұрын
Daniel Son. Grow like bonsai. [sometimes our movie references show how old we are.]
@robrose4971
@robrose4971 11 ай бұрын
Need I point out the obvious? You can't second guess a tree's motives.
@nikki_q.
@nikki_q. 9 ай бұрын
😂❤💯
@MiguelMartinez-yh9df
@MiguelMartinez-yh9df 7 ай бұрын
I identify as a tree and can conclude he is not one of us.. this is confirmed by the FBI, and CIA.
@socialhermit7144
@socialhermit7144 7 ай бұрын
That is what I have been saying!
@Lunchbrospod
@Lunchbrospod 11 ай бұрын
“We hate the ATF” Instantly subscribed
@charlescouncill
@charlescouncill 11 ай бұрын
I did the same thing!
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 8 ай бұрын
I don’t hate the ATF. Why would I? They are there to keep us safe just like the FBI. And no I’m not being facetious.
@thatkidredhead
@thatkidredhead 8 ай бұрын
Glad I’m not the only autist here
@stoptrudeau42
@stoptrudeau42 3 ай бұрын
Welcome bro 😂 I'm canadian and hate the atf
@honnebombll
@honnebombll 11 ай бұрын
In the early 2000s I was an Air Surveillance Operator in the Air Force. I experienced again and again that people massively overestimate the level of control that the military exercises in the airspace in peacetime. Our defined tasks was to find hostile planes and to prevent traffic to enter restricted military Airspaces, the public Airspace in peace time is of no conern for us except if they call us! My job in particular was to keep the radar image clean, to make sure that the echo signals and transponder signals correlated, this actually happens automatically, but it was not unusual for this to still be displayed incorrectly, especially since everything was digital and not analog as before. Sometimes all transponder signals disappeared and you had to restart the system, transponder signals that left their echo-signal, transponder signals that jumped to a different echo, e.g. a flock of birds, etc. A plane could suddenly be completely somewhere else, perform flight movements and reach speeds like an Alien Spacecraft, in those cases it is of course clear that the system is going crazy again, after all it is just a computer that represents something to me and just like the Computer at home things can and do go wrong. And with sometimes i mean from my subjective memory, twice a day, it was common. Also, primary radar technology is not nearly as accurate as people think, at least it wasn't 20 years ago. But above all there is an alarm chain and we were at the end of this chain, i cant just scramble fighters if something is suspicious to me. If this chain is interrupted at the beginning, as was the case with MH370, nothing happens. We only react when civil airspace controller raise the alarm, it is their job to organize the airspace, not ours. After all, I have no contact with the plane. I could assume he said to ATC my Transponder is broken everything is fine i divert back home. It's also not unusual for planes to suddenly turn around; medical or technical emergencies force them to turn back or move to another airport. It simply wasn't our job and therefore wouldn't have interested us. At night and without threat, two soldiers sit in such a control room and control half of a country the size of France or Germany. Their job isn't much more than being there, drinking unhealthy amounts of coffee and waking up the rest when the civilian authorities report a kidnapping or something similar. The only other scenario when i had to change from being a passiv observer to being active was when a plane was getting closer or entering an Airspace closed by the Military. The usual case was like this, the phone rang, the voice told me track flight with NTN (Nato Track Number) xy write down Speed, Heading, and all the rest every 30 seconds if he keeps not answering scramble fighters. This happened twice a month on average. So if i were a Controller in that night i either wouldnt have recognized the Echo as a plane, depending on weather and other factors, or i would have recognized it as a plane without transponder signal for which i assumed half a dozen technical reasons either at their or my end and if it was a reason of concern my phone had to ring. So I wouldn't have done anything except fight sleep. And the Pilot knew that, thats why he made his plane invisible for ATC when leaving one and enetering another airspace and thus making sure ATC doesnt realize it.
@amys5669
@amys5669 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for writing all this. Why would the pilot do this - And the Pilot knew that, thats why he made his plane invisible for ATC when leaving one and enetering another airspace and thus making sure ATC doesnt realize it.
@honnebombll
@honnebombll 10 ай бұрын
@@amys5669 Well thats the 1 million Dollar question, human behavior can be inexplicable and irrational. Why did the Germanwings pilot let his plane fly into a mountain? We will never find an answer to this, only speculation.
@LprogressivesANDliberals
@LprogressivesANDliberals 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your knowledge and service soldier 🫡🦅🇺🇸 I a American citizen am thankful for your sacrifice
@honnebombll
@honnebombll 10 ай бұрын
@@LprogressivesANDliberals Thank you for saying that, but i am not a US citizen i didnt serve in the US Forces, but we supported them several times.
@theresachung703
@theresachung703 9 ай бұрын
Your explanation makes clear that a pilot made sure that the system became invisible, ergo massive self killing and müder
@gammafighter
@gammafighter 11 ай бұрын
The weirdest part of the Netflix documentary was they they introduced the lady finding the debris on satellite pretty early on and then they never addressed it again whatsoever. Like it never happened, but they're the ones that brought it up!
@rachelmurray1228
@rachelmurray1228 10 ай бұрын
I also wonder about that debris in the South China Sea. What happened to that investigation I wonder! One can easily see the big M in the debris field.
@TWCobra
@TWCobra 10 ай бұрын
The latest Netflix MH370 "documentary" is a low-point of the genre. Conspiracy theory claptrap. This also lurches into conspiracy theory as well. You could do better with some research. Neither of the aircraft shown in the Ashton video are Boeing 777's. The closer one is probably an Airbus A330. The more distant one is someone's bad modelling.
@soude85
@soude85 6 ай бұрын
@@TWCobra Did you not watch them explain for over 10min that those infrared videos are fake..?!
@americankid7782
@americankid7782 4 ай бұрын
@@soude85clearly not
@butchstrey6776
@butchstrey6776 11 ай бұрын
As a retired crime investigator, l am impressed at the length you go to in this investigation. Good job! I can only imagine how much time you put into it.
@anddontcallmeshirley-
@anddontcallmeshirley- 11 ай бұрын
Security guard.
@corning1
@corning1 11 ай бұрын
Damn yall are rude lol.
@josi4251
@josi4251 11 ай бұрын
​@@corning1 Yes, agreed. I'm a former private investigator (primarily civil litigation), and I'm not quite sure how a couple of yokels are reaching stratospheric conclusions about someone's job efficacy from a single post. But people be out here pressing on letters and spewing drek.
@anddontcallmeshirley-
@anddontcallmeshirley- 11 ай бұрын
@@josi4251 = A barrel of laughs.
@josi4251
@josi4251 11 ай бұрын
@@anddontcallmeshirley- You are far too easily entertained. But it's easy to guess why that may be so.
@kartoonfanatic
@kartoonfanatic 11 ай бұрын
KZbin: Hey we want more documentary style channels, you guys are awesome. Tons of views, educational, solid editing. We gonna back you. Also KZbin: Here's a list of words you can't say. *drops a textbook*
@Rollotomasi79
@Rollotomasi79 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. KZbin tags just words, not the context and context is everything
@edmardisla8492
@edmardisla8492 11 ай бұрын
@@Rollotomasi79 Ironically, the little banner they put up in these type of videos is called "Context".
@MakerInMotion
@MakerInMotion 11 ай бұрын
KZbin: We love high quality well researched long form documentary content, keep it up. Also KZbin: Our algorithm will punish you if there's more than 3 days between uploads.
@waynewayne9693
@waynewayne9693 11 ай бұрын
The one that really annoys me is “unalived”!
@nickkorkodylas5005
@nickkorkodylas5005 11 ай бұрын
@@Rollotomasi79 KZbin tags? More like KZbin f-
@hartheffe
@hartheffe 11 ай бұрын
This is some top quality content dude. Really impressed but also disappointed how little work most media does. You’ve pointed out how it is possible for just one guy to really get some great information put together. Most “serious” or “thorough” reporting doesn’t even approach due diligence, and half the time doesn’t seem like they had any interest in primary sources. To me this reeks of incompetence through and through
@Charles-wr8jr
@Charles-wr8jr 11 ай бұрын
It reeks of the fact a spy satellite video of the flight being encircled by 3 UAP and disappearing. This video is a misinformation plant
@CynicallyDepressedx
@CynicallyDepressedx 11 ай бұрын
To me this video reeks of incompetence through and through. How can you think this is good journalism?!
@joshhamilton3727
@joshhamilton3727 11 ай бұрын
​@@CynicallyDepressedxhow so?
@Thoyocem
@Thoyocem 11 ай бұрын
@@joshhamilton3727 Ignore him, he's definitely just a gov bot.
@Rabbinicphilosophyforthewin
@Rabbinicphilosophyforthewin 11 ай бұрын
“Most ‘serious’ or ‘thorough’ reporting doesn’t even approach due diligence”-agreed, but it can bestow on the public some amazing nuggets. Remember when Don Lemon asked if 370 could have been swallowed by a black hole? And the guests all kept straight faces? One of the all-time great moments of broadcast journalism.
@Maurisneezed01
@Maurisneezed01 10 ай бұрын
Last year there was an article that came out about a Florida scientist who got access to the small barnacles on the debris that was recovered, and said if they had access to the large ones they could find out more about the area where they developed their layers and use that area as a place to start looking for the rest of the wreckage. Unfortunately the large barnacles have not been released to them so we may never know.
@dirremoire
@dirremoire 11 ай бұрын
I've watched your documentary twice in 2 days. In this era of cut 'n paste journalism the hard work y'all put into this topic deserves praise and my subscription. 👏
@syntheticat-3
@syntheticat-3 11 ай бұрын
Possible context for the Lithium-Ion battery regulations beginning in 2016: recall the Samsung note 7 disaster with the batteries that kept spontaneously combusting, which also happened that year. I don't think it discounts the battery theory entirely, because from a "battery explosion theory" perspective, maybe the phones provided a really convenient catalyst for the legislation, but either way this didn't happen in a vacuum.
@LeastFav
@LeastFav 11 ай бұрын
Hoops no whishy? . ?
@cursedwithsetience4017
@cursedwithsetience4017 11 ай бұрын
And lithium batteries have caused mid flight fires before as well.
@stewart8127
@stewart8127 11 ай бұрын
A fire doesn't explain nothing being found.
@RB-pm2ni
@RB-pm2ni 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think it was batteries; disappeared to cleanly
@scarling9367
@scarling9367 11 ай бұрын
​@@stewart8127Doesn't need to. It just explains what would have brought the aircraft down. Or at least put it in an emergency situation.
@jaimel2037
@jaimel2037 11 ай бұрын
As a western guying that’s been living in Malaysia for last 12years I can tell you rich,successful,powerful men have many mistresses so someone finding out a pilot is having fun with younger beautiful women is no big deal ,definitely not a reason for a Malaysian pilot to get depressed and ditch a plane for..
@walshmabob2
@walshmabob2 11 ай бұрын
You can’t apply your thinking to another person
@dirremoire
@dirremoire 11 ай бұрын
@@walshmabob2 You can because culture exists.
@walshmabob2
@walshmabob2 11 ай бұрын
@@dirremoire agreed, but it can’t be the reasoning why something is DEFINITELY the reason
@CynicallyDepressedx
@CynicallyDepressedx 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, except the key accusation levied against him wasn't that he was cheating. It's that he was being a creep, making unacceptable sexual advances on multiple women despite warnings which had escalated to the point where he was about to lose his job. A co-worker knowing you have a mistress is completely different from your job being taken away from you for sexual harassment.
@jaimel2037
@jaimel2037 11 ай бұрын
@@CynicallyDepressedx oooo really??? ,I’ve never read or heard that accusation in all the documentaries I’ve watched?…do you have a link to any article that I can follow that up?
@aliasif8498
@aliasif8498 11 ай бұрын
I have seen almost all the documentaries available on MH370 but these 2 parts are literally the best with more indepth analysis and information...This is one of the best channels on KZbin
@dionpryor369
@dionpryor369 11 ай бұрын
Scenario 3 from the Netflix documentary is the answer to what happened.
@vegasjill21
@vegasjill21 11 ай бұрын
​@@dionpryor369 Do I have to have Netflix to check it out??
@pettykittyfam
@pettykittyfam 11 ай бұрын
​@@dionpryor369lol 😂 ok let's break that down a little... #1 what was Scenario 3? #2 how do you prove that is the real reason for the plane's disappearance? # Since you're sure enough to declare such a fact here how come you're not on TV or news showing all us normies what the answer to this great mystery is? Lol Seriously I'm waiting anxiously for your answer. I often find people in comment sections who have all the REAL ANSWERS to so many unanswered questions. Apparently the real geniuses are in the comments sections of KZbin 😂
@armitage36
@armitage36 11 ай бұрын
Leak Project With Rex Bear Has The Best Interviews 👌
@superduckiethecat
@superduckiethecat 11 ай бұрын
​@@dionpryor369⁰5😊😊😊
@MovieGasm
@MovieGasm 11 ай бұрын
Great channel man.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! It’s really encouraging to hear that from channels like yours!
@Envirolaw64
@Envirolaw64 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been binge watching your videos for a week. I enjoy that you explore all the possible scenarios and explanations, from the government did it to aliens. You do this consistently in all your videos. It makes this a great channel. Also, totally random but I absolutely love hearing the video guy speak. It isn’t jazz but it’s still pretty easy on the ears.
@Surannhealz
@Surannhealz 11 ай бұрын
I’ve worked in the semiconductor industry for 20 years. That patent sounds like normal petty stuff that the companies do to each other. The number of chips per wafer is purely about how many rectangles can fit inside a circle. Either make the circle bigger, make the rectangles smaller, or decrease the space between the rectangles. We already use lasers to dice the chips. I can’t imagine that they would have anything so break through in this specific application that it would be worth the risk of this conspiracy going public. Perhaps finding an alternative to silicon and germanium might be a major breakthrough, but not dicing chips.
@frankmcgowan9457
@frankmcgowan9457 11 ай бұрын
What if you needed highly precise timing circuits and other integrated circuits international sanctions kept you from buying?
@nihlify
@nihlify 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, some of these speculations are stupid
@Already100
@Already100 3 ай бұрын
🤣😂😆
@tmgeise
@tmgeise 11 ай бұрын
I hope Aiden Thornbury's walk through of his process to create the elements in the video will clear up the sticking points some people have. Very well explained and even the quick attempt of replicating it was damning. 56:18
@Cholm
@Cholm 11 ай бұрын
Practically identical effect
@xWonderxBreadx
@xWonderxBreadx 11 ай бұрын
100% spot on. Especially with some of the outer ring flame details Although, the "IR SAT video" might be Black-Hot, explaining why the plane and clouds appear white for 2am, while the water appears darker (heat retention). Don't quote me on that though
@John-wd5cb
@John-wd5cb 11 ай бұрын
There exist endothermic events caught in cameras for research in the Manhattan project. Someone very meticulous should find them. Just sayin...
@chaechae2424
@chaechae2424 11 ай бұрын
Agreed, ashtons arguement of 'how many pixels match' really pissed me off cause i knew that's not how editing stuff works, so i feel kinda vindicated seeing such a great explanation. No doubt he will brush all this off with his arrogance and not even consider the points put forward within the video.
@deeeno6867
@deeeno6867 11 ай бұрын
I didn’t know shit about VFX before this video, but thornbury did a great job of explaining and had me 100% certain those videos were edited
@JMichaelG
@JMichaelG 11 ай бұрын
I love how objective you guys are about government involvement and propaganda. So many people these days fall into the whole "my side is always right, anything wrong happened because of the other guys", it's really refreshing to have someone go "Nope. Government sucks and lies no matter what side you're on, here's the evidence."
@aerotube7291
@aerotube7291 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, happens a lot on here...'go back and relearn the subject" is a common criticism sadly.
@markworden9169
@markworden9169 11 ай бұрын
True
@skully6223
@skully6223 11 ай бұрын
I was about to say, “if most people knew the sorts of things the government has done to people that is truly atrocious…..etc.!” Then I realized that they’d do nothing…they’d still think they were the most law-abiding group of folks ever!
@wasdwasdedsf
@wasdwasdedsf 11 ай бұрын
what??
@aerotube7291
@aerotube7291 11 ай бұрын
@@wasdwasdedsf a lot of these guys are hoping for a world map printed on a tablecloth mate, you've gotta understand that before wading in with long winded questions such as 'what?'..😂
@athan_1122
@athan_1122 11 ай бұрын
The Green Dot Aviation channel made a very informative video a few weeks ago. A play by play of the events.
@sonofsamwaters8350
@sonofsamwaters8350 8 ай бұрын
And their video is much more logical than this one, which is filled with red herrings and speculation. If this was my channel, I'd pull this video down, it's embarrassing.
@jjjosie_
@jjjosie_ 8 ай бұрын
this is an interesting couple of videos but i find that with flight stuff and mh370 videos it is so much more helpful from an actual pilot or someone with experience in aviation who could actually relate their own experience or understand the specifics of the terminology to explain to the audience rather than making assumptions or asking for clarification from the comments
@darrenmcdonald6182
@darrenmcdonald6182 8 ай бұрын
Mentour Pilot has a great video. Not speculation, deals with the data
@rich4ever223
@rich4ever223 8 ай бұрын
Green Dot also missed a few things, and got wrong. The pilot descended the plane into the water at a low speed, which is a fact. So the airplane wouldn't explode amd leave pieces floating around. Also, Green Dot didn't mention anything about the call made to air traffic control with he code work for hijacking. That's also a fact. We won't ever truly know what happened. But those 2 things definitely happened
@Victor-wy7yc
@Victor-wy7yc 7 ай бұрын
​​​@@rich4ever223Didnt know abou that call where did you get that from?
@romannumeral5547
@romannumeral5547 11 ай бұрын
The simplest explanation is usually going to be the best one and all this thermo imaging has done is muddied the waters. My bet is still on the pilot being the one behind it.
@GrandpasRevenge43
@GrandpasRevenge43 11 ай бұрын
Now this one I'll watch. Couldn't sit through the "solver of MH370" dude.
@chasjetty8729
@chasjetty8729 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it was hard.
@Nilboggen
@Nilboggen 11 ай бұрын
lol me either. I like a good conspiracy theory but I need it to be grounded in an least some facts.
@ogonbio8145
@ogonbio8145 11 ай бұрын
There was a whole part 1 video before the livestream you’re talking about
@Nilboggen
@Nilboggen 11 ай бұрын
@@ogonbio8145 Part 1 was fine I enjoyed that one just not the one with Ashton Forbes.
@xXJLNINJAXx
@xXJLNINJAXx 11 ай бұрын
​@@Nilboggenwhy? I just finished the podcast and your reaction makes little sense to me.
@BX138
@BX138 8 ай бұрын
Just because we don't know why, doesn't mean he didn't have a reason.
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 8 ай бұрын
Exactly, and he's real quick to dismiss his marital situation, apparently he's never been in a situation where you're living in a house with someone you were happily married to at one point and have children with but for some time your relationship has been deteriorating and you're at a point where you haven't spoken to them in weeks, that creates far more tension than he obviously understands, living under those circumstances makes people come unglued, when you're living in a household where the tension is so thick you can cut it with a knife it leads to the kind of thing you read in the newspaper every day, for him to just brush that situation aside as if it was nothing in that guy's life is silly. Also silly is completely ignoring the only physical evidence involved, the parts positively identified as belonging to MH370 that washed up on an island east of Africa that when hydrologists who study ocean currents were ask where they'd have come from they pointed to the same location the satellite handshake clues say it went down, he just completely ignores all that, brushes aside the fact that the pilot was in a situation with his personal life that's known to make people snap yet embraces conspiracy theories that involve multiple governments and businesses. Nope, sorry, he's wrong, all the aircraft pilot's and experts that say this had to be turned off and that had to be turned on and all the other steps it took to make it disappear from air traffic and other things are the one's that are right.
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 6 ай бұрын
@@dukecraig2402you sound so emotional in your analysis. But I don’t see no concrete proof. The airplanes parts found have a lot of inconsistencies and since we haven’t found the actual wreckage they can’t say for sure it came from MH370 until they do the full construction which is only possible when they find the plane. For example ‘ Unconfirmed debris - panels Sainte-Luce, Madagascar, September 2016 Two bits of debris, found by a local fisherman in south-east Madagascar and handed to Canberra investigators by independent searcher Blaine Gibson appeared to show signs of exposure to heat or fire at some point. Authorities said there was no evidence that the debris came from MH370 and that dark marks on the surface were caused by resin, not fire.’ Interestingly part of MH17 also went missing in a 2015 article written by the guardian. I won’t say anymore on that but I thought it was interesting to note. The main problem with your comment is that you are trying to apply your way of thinking and cultural norms to another society which you know nothing about. You have also failed to consider that suicide is completely forbidden in the Islamic faith and that it damns a person to hell forever. The suicide taboo is not just a cultural thing but a deep religious belief. Extremist groups which have deep ties to western government and intelligence seemed to given people this false idea that suicide is permissible in the Islamic faith. It’s not. As of right now, there is no documented proof that he is the one to do it. That doesn’t mean someone else didn’t though. Why are you so quick to assume it was him? It could have been anyone on the plane and, considering the fact that two people seeking refugee status got onto the plane, it would be easy enough for any bad faith actors to get on either official or unofficially. There are way too many possibilities here
@skully5063
@skully5063 5 ай бұрын
@@dukecraig2402he literally mentioned the parts washed ashore in the last video and talked about the captain for a while lol
@absolute_abundance
@absolute_abundance 2 ай бұрын
Diego Gracia
@hiroshi1046
@hiroshi1046 2 ай бұрын
@@dukecraig2402me when I pick and choose arguments and completely ignores the vast majority of the video and all the personal testimonies given
@LotusBloom0309
@LotusBloom0309 11 ай бұрын
This is so interesting. I love how well researched your stories are and the extra lengths you went through to debunk the videos.
@trustworthydan
@trustworthydan 11 ай бұрын
Other Aiden should do a channel for editing and stuff on his side. I honestly enjoyed his breakdown of the videos based on his experience. Most people say "it's fake." He said "here's why in my opinion" overall awesome work guys.
@SiFi5478
@SiFi5478 11 ай бұрын
Part 1 was excellent! Really looking forward to this...glad I found your channel. Subscribed!
@andersgjersoe4852
@andersgjersoe4852 11 ай бұрын
You’re coming up on Mr.Ballen and The Why File territory with you stories, delivery and production!
@Melsincatuation
@Melsincatuation 11 ай бұрын
Wow......ur coming up to one of the biggest a**kisser!!!! Lol
@FatalKoi
@FatalKoi 11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the in-depth research you did here. And using the effects from adobe to show how the video could be put together really helps people like me, who know nothing about effects and such, to really understand. Thank you! I am very impressed.
@cspan7356
@cspan7356 11 ай бұрын
Check out Green Dot Aviation’s documentary on this. Now, it does only focus on the captain crashing the plane theory, but it is really eye opening. Definitely worth a watch.
@gaiking8625
@gaiking8625 10 ай бұрын
The ditching of the plane happen could be due to the plane were being trace into the Indian ocean where is the plan was for it disapear in the South China Sea, it suppose to end there.
@fairlinda1
@fairlinda1 10 ай бұрын
Green Dot's theory is the only one for me. All others just don't hit the spot.
@sahazmarkk5624
@sahazmarkk5624 8 ай бұрын
One major problem in green dot aviation theory was ACARS system switch is not in the cockpit as explained in this video 38:52 According to him Captain never got out of cockpit, either both captain and FO were not involved or both of them were which is very very highly unlikely. The official narrative sounds unreal, that the pilot were able to flawlessly put everyone to sleep, fooled airforce, had a deathwish, turned off acars without getting off cockpit, crashed plane in Indian ocean and search parties of so many countries got nothing after searching for so long in there. official narrative from governments and thier organisations like inmarsat sounds wrong and shady
@brettmconnor4337
@brettmconnor4337 8 ай бұрын
@@sahazmarkk5624also let’s call a spade a spade on this guys first attempt at this. I know that sounds silly to say..like of course it’s his first attempt…however it doesn’t change the fact that it was. Talk about things falling into place and everything going your way
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 6 ай бұрын
@@brettmconnor4337Exactly, how could he have known for example that he wouldn’t get intercepted by fighter jets or that he would even be able to overpower the copilot? It’s ridiculous
@spookmeyer970
@spookmeyer970 11 ай бұрын
Black and white IR typically has the option to invert black hot/white hot. Typically if you're looking at something mostly cold, you use white hot. If you're looking at something mostly hot, black hot. Eyestrain and all that. plus flipping the hot color can give you a kind of 'fresh eyes' on what you're looking at. Dunno about your tradition blue cold - red hot thermals, but it wouldn't really surprise me tbh.
@justinsane9243
@justinsane9243 11 ай бұрын
The color IR is an advanced electro IR camera.
@xtina_129
@xtina_129 11 ай бұрын
You make a good point, though I think Aiden”s main point was that the clouds and the plane shouldn’t be the same heat signature, regardless of regular or inverted.
@andy2641
@andy2641 2 ай бұрын
But that’s irrelevant, the plane would be hot therefore it’s white that is hot
@Petrosilius
@Petrosilius 2 ай бұрын
The Ratio would still make no Sense. No Matter the Color used to visualized
@nakedbeekeeper9610
@nakedbeekeeper9610 Күн бұрын
​@@Petrosilius but those orbs were really cute tho 😢
@ReallyRick
@ReallyRick 11 ай бұрын
My only problem with your theory is how did nobody see the flaming wreckage? When TWA 800 crashed into the ocean flaming debris was seen for hours. How did no planes, no boats in a highly trafficked area not see it?
@hazard3020
@hazard3020 11 ай бұрын
not wanting to take sides.. for information, ONE person DID report a flaming plane heading past her.....
@xeldinn86
@xeldinn86 11 ай бұрын
And it allegedly flew for like 7 hours....thats a long time for a fire to burn and not bring it down earlier
@AYVYN
@AYVYN 11 ай бұрын
Probably because it didn’t crash in a high traffic area. Boats and planes follow very specific paths.
@moosesnWoop
@moosesnWoop 11 ай бұрын
over 30 people saw a burning plane. Mike Mckay, who worked on an oil rig off Vietnam said he saw a burning plane. Kathereen Tee said she also saw a burning plane. 17 fisherman off Malaysian coast saw a burning plane flying low towards the South (penang)
@hazard3020
@hazard3020 11 ай бұрын
* I've had a rethink about this. 1 DOES a burning plane always crash ? Answer is No. Not always ! 2. Folks above rightly advise it carried on for 7-8 hours....... 3. But that doesn't mean it was flying by Pilot/Co-Pilot? Answer is No. MH370 was flying on autopilot. 4. It's possible that there WAS a hold fire. And the fire was extinguished in the Cargo Hold by the automated HALON system. 5. Which enabled the plane to fly for a further 7+ hours. 6. Unfortunately this activity also extinguished both the Pilot and Co-Pilot too (without warning sadly.) 7. Potentially a rear cargo hold fire extinguished the passengers too. Sadly.
@iceman22m
@iceman22m 11 ай бұрын
At 1:11:23, I must say that upon examining the two assets, it is evident that they overlap, especially in the ring areas. It is quite clear that they are the same asset. There is no need to argue about the exact shade of the asset when it can be easily edited. Moreover, the fact that the outer rings overlay so perfectly is undeniably artificial. I appreciate you taking the time to bring this to our attention and guiding us through it.
@GaylJDodds
@GaylJDodds 9 ай бұрын
Both of our Aidens are amazing and I'm so glad I found your channel! Great info, great presentation, and great humor. I'm having a marathon and thoroughly enjoying a lazy Saturday, thanks to your videos!!
@horrorbusiness78
@horrorbusiness78 11 ай бұрын
Kudos to The Lore Lodge this is the best video I have watched on the subject. To me the only plausible explanation is that Capt Shah was responsible , the content you guys included about Shah and his life etc at the time was both interesting and reinforces the argument of - Why would he do it? But another argument which I consider the only explanation is that he would have the knowledge and experience to pull off the manoeuvres and turning off the relevant systems on the plane relating to detection. As for the info put forward from the people that knew him about his character - as we all know , someone that is seriously depressed etc can seem normal even to those closest in their life
@brandonvicbossmorgan
@brandonvicbossmorgan 11 ай бұрын
Bro as someone who edits videos for his own yt channel, the segment when Aden broke down those two videos were F'n BRILLIANT 👏 SO GOOD amazing job man 🎉🎉
@happygoluckyh.t.d.4life.739
@happygoluckyh.t.d.4life.739 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for working on this during the thanksgiving holiday, I will admit that at first this topic didn't interest me but it was how you tell this to us that had me from the start. Turned out to be very interesting and thought provoking, so I am glad you did this and so glad I watched.
@peekay120
@peekay120 11 ай бұрын
I do find it quite astonishing that we live in a post Snowden world and there are still people that somehow trust the government and all these alphabet agencies to be on the up and up
@JJ-zr6fu
@JJ-zr6fu 11 ай бұрын
The problem with Snowden is first everyone knew this so he exposed nothing. Second he was on a mission to do this he wasn’t an innocent whistleblower. And finally he went to Russia which is worse than anything IS has done.
@Squince01
@Squince01 11 ай бұрын
They still live in blissful ignorance, in the dark.
@skully6223
@skully6223 11 ай бұрын
Agree. The government disgusts me & it baffles me when ppl believe they have our best interest in mind! Lol! After reading about the Tuskegee Experiments, the “Lavender Scare”, & mkultra, I’ve come to the conclusion that the government is pure evil…& those stories are only a few of MANY . People do no research….they’d rather be told what to think than do their own research & form their own opinions. It’s sad actually.
@rhondaqualls2954
@rhondaqualls2954 11 ай бұрын
​@Squince01 I have had people tell me they wish to stay that way, it's crazy; I may not can stop much but I can try to prepare so I need to be in the know.
@johnmoffat5782
@johnmoffat5782 11 ай бұрын
Dam are you single
@ajpalmgren2585
@ajpalmgren2585 7 күн бұрын
1:05:36 The fact that you so quickly found a STOCK asset in Adobe that matches the pattern of that inner ring so perfectly, without even rotating that asset, is proof enough for me that you not only debunked this as SFX, but found the EXACT asset in the EXACT program that was used to create it! Bravo! BTW, love to learn of your input to this channel...excellent work all around!
@NewNewColt
@NewNewColt 11 ай бұрын
Green Dot Aviation released an amazing video about how everything would have happened in the pilot hijacking scenario. The only thing he doesn’t answer is why the pilot would have done it. Was his family being threatened if he didn’t? Is that why there seemed to be a partial cover up? With all the facts he presents it seems that is what happened but I still have more questions than answers.
@SImrobert2001
@SImrobert2001 11 ай бұрын
Probably because the "pilot hijack" scenario doesn't need one. There's been several in recorded history. Fed Ex Flight 705 had an attempted hijacking from a fellow pilot for a life insurance scam. There's also the Germanwings flight that crashed in the french alps, which likely was a pilot hijacking. Japan Airlines Flight 350, Royal Air Maroc Flight 360, SilkAir Flight 185, Air Botswana: On Oct. 11, 1999 took off with the explicit idea to kill himself, Egyptair 990, and Mozambique Airlines TM470: are all plane crashes either suspected or proven to have been done on purpose from either the pilot or copilot.
@TheMediatorOfChaos
@TheMediatorOfChaos 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@SImrobert2001This is exactly what I keep reminding people. As horrific as it is to contemplate, sometimes on rare(!) occasions, pilots just do this.
@NewNewColt
@NewNewColt 11 ай бұрын
@@SImrobert2001 You say it doesn’t need a reason but then go on to list all reasons those other pilot hijackings happen. So yes it does need one even if that reason is something like acute psychosis. Regardless I get what your trying to say. Just because there is a reason he did it doesn’t mean we will learn it or it has to make logical sense to the rest of us.
@SImrobert2001
@SImrobert2001 11 ай бұрын
@@NewNewColt Most of those don't have a reason, and we know they happen. That is my point.
@prasunchoudhury8711
@prasunchoudhury8711 11 ай бұрын
Well said; I had the same feeling seeing GreenDotAviation video. It’s a very well made video showing what the pilot could have done with no reasoning for that.
@patricialuna3016
@patricialuna3016 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Thornberry - I actually understood most of what you said so glad you put it in layman's terms. Keep up the good work. Great Episode.
@hartheffe
@hartheffe 11 ай бұрын
A weird thing to me is that the engines and jet exhaust seem the same temp or only barely hotter than the fuselage or wing tips, and the whole plane is basically the same color. Wouldn’t parts be marginally hotter or colder based on friction and underlying fuel/electronics to suck up or put out heat?
@Maddog3060
@Maddog3060 11 ай бұрын
Yup. Leading edges of wings and the nose are always hotter from other parts of the aircraft from friction.
@Arclite100
@Arclite100 11 ай бұрын
The problem with this technical stuff is you need go go out and test it. Get a plane preferable a 777 at that altitude and speed and watch it with the MQ-1 and its optics. While general assumptions can be made you have to actually test to make sure those assumptions are correct. People here go on the assumptions and can be dead wrong. The plane was at 35000ft, where it is very cold and at a speed that could be variable. Need to test to see exactly what a plane like that will look like. It may be very much different from what the guessers are guessing. People take information they have read for something like the MQ-1 and it may be all wrong. The military likes to keep the abilities of machines like the MQ-1 secret and they are not above releasing incorrect/inaccurate information about it.
@MrDarknesscometh
@MrDarknesscometh 3 ай бұрын
One thing about thermal is it takes everything in the frame and compares the temperatures relative. Thus if something is 1000 degrees and another object is 0 degrees respectively everything in between will be a mild gradient. This is so the hot objects do not over crowd the rest of the image. So while the engines may only appear slightly hotter they may in fact be several hundred degrees hotter than something only a few shades of orange darker. If it took exact temperatures and assigned a color based on temp the image would be far less defined because of the extreme difference in temps between the fusalodge and engines and background
@t.n.1116
@t.n.1116 11 ай бұрын
Do a video for Flight 800 that went down off Long Island please! Multiple eyewitnesses claimed they saw a missile launch from an island in the sound and hit it!
@jamesrousculp1974
@jamesrousculp1974 11 ай бұрын
Twa was not shot down by a missile
@t.n.1116
@t.n.1116 11 ай бұрын
@@jamesrousculp1974 maybe maybe not but I'd still love to see Aiden make video breaking it down 😊
@kathymiller5781
@kathymiller5781 11 ай бұрын
That plane blew up! My family live on Long Island and are boaters, saw flames before plane wen down😢t
@t.n.1116
@t.n.1116 11 ай бұрын
@@kathymiller5781 My dad lived on Long Island at the time too and he took out his telescope and watched the rescue boats and the wreckage in the water. He watches Lore Lodge too and asked me to "ask Lore Lodge to do a video on it" because he saw the last plane video he did 😆.
@melektaus2906
@melektaus2906 11 ай бұрын
@@jamesrousculp1974one of the lead FBI agents investigating the case believes otherwise, I think his name is Jim Diorio (or something like that), he was on Koncrete podcast and discussed it a few times
@pamelastorer8570
@pamelastorer8570 7 ай бұрын
I have been watching lots of these videos lately, from people who were investigating at the time, and interviewing at the time. Yours is by far the best. You arent wasting time documenting the idiotic incompetences, which we all know were there, you are focussing onthe technology, the timing, and accuracy. Well done.
@MommaOsoIrish67
@MommaOsoIrish67 10 ай бұрын
As someone who would know zero about video editing, i reslly appreciated the way that was broken down.
@13fsteven
@13fsteven 11 ай бұрын
The VFX portion was great! Very informative! And I never thought about comparing the heat signatures, after that analysis I think you can say with great certainty that the videos are fake.
@der.8492
@der.8492 11 ай бұрын
Video: Recorded during the event later, uploaded to YT 2 months later People: It's Fake, Zaharie Shah is a Murder Suicidal 🤓
@LordPhoton-rl4ot
@LordPhoton-rl4ot 11 ай бұрын
From a physics aspect, the amount of power alone to create a "worm hole" could not have been produced by 3 small hovering machines. Not to mention stabilizing it so something could interact it without collapsing the field entirely. This is a gross over simplification but the easiest to understand. Mass=energy so folding space takes massive massive amounts of energy or mass depending how you look at it. Plus I completely agree with your cohost/editor/director/all around chad in that it definitely looks like vfx. So once again good stuff my man.
@junglajuan
@junglajuan 11 ай бұрын
Well sir, this is not the first time it happened, I recommend the channel EYES ON UFOS, to see the story about two f14 tomcat that were "absorbed " mid flight when approaching a giant ufo in midday on Puerto Rico. You must open your mind to extraterrestrial technology. Excuse my English it's my second language
@deandeann1541
@deandeann1541 11 ай бұрын
Have you determined this based on humanity's knowledge of physics (which would mean you have a PhD in astrophysics at the least, never mind the post doc work required to be on the leading edge), or is it based on aKZbin/internet entertainment physics, or is it, and this would be most interesting, based on an et society's knowledge of physics that is eg 30,000 years more advanced than human knowledge? Enquiring readers wish to know.
@casteanpreswyn7528
@casteanpreswyn7528 10 ай бұрын
​@deandeann1541 you got any actual evidence of that last thing you brought up? No? Didn't think so. If you did, you'd rewrite all scientific knowledge that the human race has acquired up to this point. So we can rule that out completely.
@EB-73-
@EB-73- 9 ай бұрын
Also, dude, A+ for cramming a second retarded ass take in there too. "Hurrr the video is clearly vfx which means it has zero significance whatsoever, obviously!" Buddy, these clips are some of the best UFO footage to ever hit the market. At that, the original clips dropped within an insanely timely manner of the original disappearance, as soon as within the week/month. And further, the UFO clips made in 2014, were NOT UAP clips. The MH370, is UAP clips. They do not belong in 2014, especially not under the guise of being some basement dwellers side project. UFO's in 2014, were UFO's. Flying saucers piloted by green and grey men. NOT spherical likely drone operated UAP technology that we get swamped with now. Can you see the discrepancy there at least? Please? The sat footage is almost certainly VFX. The drone footage has somewhat better credibility but even still. Even if we assume that all associated footage is purely conjured up, it still SHOULDN'T look like that. And it probably should have taken longer to come out, or been some abandoned hobby project. It's insane to think that footage was crafted by a troll for lols.
@magnusgreel275
@magnusgreel275 11 ай бұрын
Usually I wish you were a lot more sceptical in your analyses, but I loved the takedown/debunking of those ridiculous portal videos that have come out recently. The fact that a US military drone just happened to be there and the footage just happened to be leaked is just a bit much to believe, heh. Well done and kudos to your co-host for his thorough and clear explanation.
@johnperrybarlowdeclaration4702
@johnperrybarlowdeclaration4702 11 ай бұрын
Drone didn’t just happen to be there, the island right there is an us/India airforce base and there’s a way you can google the drone and base as well as some coms. That tiny island is an airforce base
@magnusgreel275
@magnusgreel275 11 ай бұрын
@@johnperrybarlowdeclaration4702 keep in mind that we don't have any evidence where this exactly happened, but we do know where debris washed up etc. If you want to link to a reliable source feel free, but this has been pretty thoroughly debunked.
@der.8492
@der.8492 11 ай бұрын
​@@magnusgreel275the footages were leaked by Edward C Lin
@magnusgreel275
@magnusgreel275 11 ай бұрын
@@der.8492 the word "leaked" connotates that they were at one point actually kept secret, instead of created on a computer. The videos are hoaxes, no matter who came up with them.
@der.8492
@der.8492 11 ай бұрын
@@magnusgreel275 How is it fake if USMC General confirmed its authenticity? The videos uploaded to YT 2 months after the disappearence 🤨 Stop hiding the truth, we all know the Pilot and his crew were in Diego Garcia
@vespurrs
@vespurrs 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this analysis and overview of some of the theories you present here. I would highly recommend a viewing of Green Dot Aviation's breakdown of events as well.
@Ghredle
@Ghredle 11 ай бұрын
Could you elaborate why this transponder system cannot be turned off form the cockpit without intentional modification to the wiring. Could you relate to the fact that shortly before, extended maintenance including wiring was done to the very same airframe. I find this one of the most intriguing fact not mentioned in the official narrative
@Wilkins325
@Wilkins325 11 ай бұрын
Your videos are so well produced. Thanks for making a pt 2
@andreajones65
@andreajones65 11 ай бұрын
This channel is hands down the best historical, indepth videos I've seen yet! As a historian, it's very refreshing how much research and respect you put into your videos
@Insidious_Rage
@Insidious_Rage 11 ай бұрын
Yeah this dude could get a syndicated tv show
@CountryRaven54k
@CountryRaven54k 8 ай бұрын
@@Insidious_Ragegod I hope not, these things have much more passion and love when it’s a small or singular creators work. Once he has a writing team who does all the research for him it will go from, him having confidence in what he is saying because he has personally done the research, to him acting on a screen reading someone else’s research.
@centennialfarm11
@centennialfarm11 11 ай бұрын
UPS flight 6 is a pretty crazy story. The co-pilot flew the plane to the very last second even after the plane burning and systems failing. He cam pretty close to getting it on the ground.
@foxxrider250r
@foxxrider250r 11 ай бұрын
Really...wow
@KitsuneAdorable
@KitsuneAdorable 11 ай бұрын
Damn. That was such a tragic situation. Mayday has an episode on that flight, just the whole flight, tragic. 😥
@miaflyer2376
@miaflyer2376 11 ай бұрын
UPS 6 wasn't a crazy story. It was a stupid crew who should have and could have landed at the nearest suitable airport, as Dammam, Doha, Bahrain, or Abu Dahbi, instead of motoring all the way back to Dubai. Duh.
@redgrey85
@redgrey85 10 ай бұрын
I'm a computer science professor. But my hobby in college and high school, because I like art and was crap at it but was good at computers, was being an editor and Photoshop guy. The VFX breakdown was fantastic and I relate so much to that. Good work!
@denniseldridge2936
@denniseldridge2936 11 ай бұрын
No, it is almost certain that the captain just got it in his head to fly out into the Indian Ocean. As for why... as I always say, you never know what's going on in peoples' heads. You'd be amazed at what weirdness infests the minds of the apparently normal person who seems to have everything together.
@himhim3344
@himhim3344 11 ай бұрын
Sometimes I get the urge to swerve into an oncoming semi truck when I'm driving down a highway. For no reason at all. Obviously I haven't and I don't always have that urge but it is there.
@denniseldridge2936
@denniseldridge2936 11 ай бұрын
@@himhim3344 .many years ago I knew a chef at a top restaurant.at one point she said something about wondering what a baby's flesh would taste like. I wonder if this is something similar.
@TheTigers00001
@TheTigers00001 Ай бұрын
What did he do to the copilot? Why the radio silence? So many questions. No answers to this day.
@denniseldridge2936
@denniseldridge2936 Ай бұрын
@@TheTigers00001 I can't remember if this particular video covers it, but you'll notice that one of, if not the, last things he sent to the Vietnam control tower was a radio check. It's something a pilot will send to acknowledge that they have returned to their seat after getting up, so that any messages they might have missed from the tower can be repeated. Thus, it is obvious that the pilot had gotten up from his seat to do *something*. I think that something was to lock the door behind the copilot who he had sent out to "check" on something, as an excuse to get him out of the cabin.
@planelvr07
@planelvr07 11 ай бұрын
I've watched both videos on MH370, i appreciate the time & diligence you both put into finding said info. Like any good investigation, i think it's raised more questions than given answers. I'm still baffled as to what happened to the plane, i truly hope we find out in my lifetime. Thank you for your presentation.
@carsonwilkins2971
@carsonwilkins2971 11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you the work you guys do for these videos you can tell that you guys have alot of passion for the stuff you do and you can tell you take the time to vergy your info and are willing to look at multiple angles of a picture even if those angles may be a bit ridiculous, i appreciate that. Also really loved that other aiden came on to share some of his knowledge of video editing and use that to help exsplain some great points. Some of those things we bugging me from the last podcast and im glad you went in detail here. Anyway thank you guys for what you do great video
@ape9863
@ape9863 11 ай бұрын
Your editor gave great insite into a topic i dont know much about. How even (in his own words) he is not an expert and with inadequate software he almost recreated that effect in like 30 seconds.
@42saram42
@42saram42 5 ай бұрын
Man that quick and dirty vfx explanation was great and damning as hell. It was already pretty suspicious that one dude managed to get ahold of two different videos of this insane wormhole phenomena but that stock effect lined up almost to the pixel with only a few minutes of rough tweaking.
@magnuszerum9177
@magnuszerum9177 3 ай бұрын
I think the battery fire is the most plausible, and it probably either crashed in the South China Sea or near the Nicobar Islands. Everything else sounds suspiciously like someone trying to save face. It's a uniquely Asian priority.
@TheRoope97
@TheRoope97 11 ай бұрын
I LOVE your videos! I just found this channel couple days ago and fell love bc you dont beg for likes, you deserve them! Same as watching your playlist. Much love from Finland
@Maugrim76
@Maugrim76 11 ай бұрын
Watching your channel from Sweden. I really like how well your videos are researched. Both of you are great narrators.
@monkmoto1887
@monkmoto1887 11 ай бұрын
You know if they wanted to intercept a jet and make it disappear, you can send an RC35 rivet joint and it can spoof all the radar in the area traveling with or simply in the same general area as your intercept jets
@Burkutace27
@Burkutace27 10 ай бұрын
Even if a Rivet Joint can do that, that's a heavy duty operation to pull off. And we have to assume China monitors all US and allied military activity in the SCS (they'd be stupid not to), they would notice something was up.
@kevinlee-cm2jv
@kevinlee-cm2jv 9 ай бұрын
You’ve made a good argument for his ‘sadness over the divorce’ not being a motivational factor for the mass murder suicide. But that doesn’t eliminate him having other motivations or mental health factors potentially leading to an action like this.
@systemicchaos3921
@systemicchaos3921 9 ай бұрын
If anyone has studied all the detailed evidence, it's obvious only the pilot or copilot could have the knowledge and skill to fly the plane on the route it was prove to have flown (the south Indian ocean)
@der.8492
@der.8492 9 ай бұрын
People are so stupid for believing mh370 suicidal, you forgot AFN Diego Garcia crew pictures were real
@peters7229
@peters7229 11 ай бұрын
Your presentation is excellent. However, one can gleam a lot from the comments section. Your viewers should also watch Green Dot Aviation's most recent video on the subject. Experienced pilots and aviation analysts concur that the event was most probably a deliberate action on the part of the highly competent, but mentally unstable, captain.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 11 ай бұрын
How did they get around the issue of motive?
@malihasaman200
@malihasaman200 11 ай бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodgewell, if we have to believe the official report and inmarsat data we need to fill in a hypothesis, and that was perfectly done by green dot. I've watched nearly everything on mh370 and first time commented under green dot saying it was the best! May be I spoke too early. Ur marravtive and content has surpassed anything that has ever been shared collectively together. I yet have few questions on your narratives, would you open up a QnA series for mh370 I guess there are lot of minds always contemplating this.
@squitten.
@squitten. 11 ай бұрын
I loved this! I’ve been a little obsessed with MH370 since it happened. I remember when I first heard about it. It was, and is, the most mysterious thing to happen in my lifetime thus far I think. All the theories are wild. I can’t wait to see what subject you dive into next! 💖
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 11 ай бұрын
The "drone footage" is clearly an event from EvE Online, where 3 Ogre SD-900 Sensor Damping drones are being sent to a capital ship (likely a carrier that is ratting or doing a hidden mission site) that has been tracked down. The attacker is using the damper drones to prevent an attack from the carrier, while closing to initiate a warp scrambler. The capital ship decides to light a Cyno field in another system from an alt account, which it had standing by for just this type of situation, and then activates its jumpdrive before the enemy can successfully block this jump (and the carrier is likely equipped with a humorously fancy warp core stabilizer anyway, as this is common among people use capital ships this way). I recognize this animation outside of its natural context, because I have seen this event nearly every day for half a decade. :)
@ericp9615
@ericp9615 11 ай бұрын
You’re saying a video game is ultimately responsible for the visuals in the footage?
@buckstarchaser2376
@buckstarchaser2376 11 ай бұрын
​@@ericp9615 I'm saying that the animation and graphics of what appears to be 3 objects arriving one after another, and then orbiting the plane-looking object are from a video game. Yes. Of course, they have been altered to have a thermal image effect (which was shown in the video to be unlike an actual thermal image).
@zacharylansing
@zacharylansing 8 ай бұрын
@@buckstarchaser2376link the video then
@ulyssesfewl1059
@ulyssesfewl1059 11 ай бұрын
I might have missed it in your presentation, however I have a strong recollection at the time that a New Zealand National, working on a Rigg in the sea off Vietnam, reported seeing a burning object in the sky at the same time that MH370 went silent. At the time i thought that was the fate of the airliner. Has that account been debunked? If not, why hasn't it been included in your expose (unless I missed it)?
@luciaeliade2224
@luciaeliade2224 11 ай бұрын
More than likely he just didn't see the theory. Aidan says it himself but he's only one guy, so it's entirely possible it wasn't brought to his attention.
@mattjohnson7369
@mattjohnson7369 11 ай бұрын
His 'expose' isn't very good. Green Dot aviations piece together blows this apart.
@bonniepayne3627
@bonniepayne3627 11 ай бұрын
Do you think there could be truth in Florence the French woman's theory? 49:57
@forrestfey
@forrestfey 8 ай бұрын
Like a lithium battery fire?
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 6 ай бұрын
@@mattjohnson7369Green dots video is shit it’s so speculative. Why are you guys SO DUMB
@lizzieandmocha1131
@lizzieandmocha1131 9 күн бұрын
Any conspiracy theory from you gets an automatic watch from me. The depth and thoroughness of your research would put any PhD or expert historian to shame.
@MadMazdawg69
@MadMazdawg69 11 ай бұрын
Ummmm….yeah….so….@ 1:05:15 was like one of those aaaahhhh hhhhaaaa moments. At least IMO it was. Because as soon as you moved the outer or top image just slightly you could see (and again this is all IMO) that the images matched up exactly. And I mean exactly, to the point that at that exact moment I realized that the image they used in the “viral” video “they” posted and the image you used both came from the EXACT SAME BASE IMAGE. It was EASY TO SEE THAT IMO! And you had only taken a few seconds to tinker with it. I’m pretty confident that given a good amount of time you could prove without a shadow of a doubt they are one in the same. Well any ‘ol way, great job. Keep up the good work fellas!!!
@chrisdaman4179
@chrisdaman4179 11 ай бұрын
Cameraman Aiden is a super hero with that live editing debunk. That's obviously the same image. Well done with this my dude.
@just-a-cupcake
@just-a-cupcake 11 ай бұрын
I just watched a complete breakdown on the video with the orbs flying around the plane on Lehto Files. It really is worth a watch.
@YahdirSanchez
@YahdirSanchez 11 ай бұрын
MORE OVERLAYS..... AND PART 3 IS NEEDED
@lynnw7155
@lynnw7155 10 ай бұрын
I remember reading several believable articles about people in the southern Maldives reporting seeing a very low-flying 777; some even report seeing colors/designs that looked like the Malaysian logo. This supports the Diego Garcia theories. Those reports were quickly squashed, but the people who saw this sounded believable to me.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 10 ай бұрын
Similar to there being no motive for it to be a murder/suicide, there’s no motive for them to take it to Diego Garcia either.
@clydefrog1487
@clydefrog1487 7 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge Just because you don't know the motive doesn't mean it doesn't exist. All of your theories are more unbelievable than this.
@10875875
@10875875 11 ай бұрын
How have I not found you yet. I’m subscribed now and will be working through all your content. 🎉
@WoodsPrecisionArms
@WoodsPrecisionArms 11 ай бұрын
I love the Lore Lodge where has this channel been my entire life?
@queandroid3045
@queandroid3045 11 ай бұрын
You guys as a team is so powerful
@Flumphinator
@Flumphinator Ай бұрын
*are
@michael-4k4000
@michael-4k4000 8 күн бұрын
We just need to search earth till we locate MN370
@hadderly91
@hadderly91 11 ай бұрын
There is a difference between how IR and thermal work. IR amplifies light, thermal detects surface temperature. The color of the object in IR does not depend on temperature, it depends on the amount of light hitting it, so theoretically, the clouds could washout it enough light is bouncing off of them. Thermal on the other hand doesn't washout unless there's a massive change in air temperature, or there is something like dense fog that the device is detecting. It's difficult to understand the nuances without having used both platforms, but the best example of their difference is how they detect glass. If you look at a car through IR, you would be able to see the interior/occupants, since light passes through glass. However, looking at the same car through thermal, you would not be able to see inside since the device will detect the surface temperature of the glass, and it will not be able to detect anything behind the glass.
@SpecterWSA
@SpecterWSA 11 ай бұрын
Which means those clouds being white in one image would be normal?
@hadderly91
@hadderly91 11 ай бұрын
@@SpecterWSA potentially yes, it all depends on the amount of light hitting them. The footage could still be altered or fake, but comparing IR to Thermal is definitely a no no.
@hadderly91
@hadderly91 11 ай бұрын
@@SpecterWSA it's also a little confusing that the IR footage is black and white. That's not a red flag or anything, but I think most people think green and black when the think of IR.
@dragonfly1929
@dragonfly1929 11 ай бұрын
This not the truth ,the truth was planned months before ML 370 took off ….all crimes can be discovered 48 hours right after the crime ,and this was a planed crime by the West ,five eyes and their Asian Allies ,know all about where and how the plane is ,but no one will come up and admit it ,so carefully planed disinformation is being planed,leading us Off The scent ….trust no one ,verify ….😊
@tyrannosaurusimperator
@tyrannosaurusimperator 8 ай бұрын
I think your confusing Night vision, thermal, and IR. Night vision just amplifies ambient light. Thermal and IR are synonyms, where the camera detects light with a longer wavelength than the visible light spectrum. For your example of glass, glass is mostly opaque to Infrared light (why it can be used to insulate green houses and why your car interior is so toasty after being left outside on a sunny day), so a thermal camera won't be able to see through it. Night vision can see through it.
@zzzthaoster
@zzzthaoster 11 ай бұрын
There is only two causes... it's him or it's the Aliens. I pick him. 😂
@mycroft_moriarty
@mycroft_moriarty 8 ай бұрын
The VFX and "Behind The Camera" segment was fascinating, and I feel that any time bringing in insight with Aiden T's skillset would be beneficial to the video, it would be a great addition to the channel!
@DaveStephensEditor
@DaveStephensEditor 11 ай бұрын
Aiden: did you use MediaInfo to look at the header information in the video files? Did you try to examine the video files with a hex editor? Are there any text fields like “copyright” or “MH370” or “Raytheon”, etc?
@theblorg2637
@theblorg2637 11 ай бұрын
I checked some IR satellite imagery, some of it uses inverted colors to indicate heat but i think the point of the airliner in the drone footage being warm and then the "womhole" being cold vs. the airline and wormhole being warm in the sattelite video still stands.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 11 ай бұрын
Yeah a lot if people missed the point haha
@nihlify
@nihlify 11 ай бұрын
The video is fake as fuck, didn't even deserve to be in this video
@twelvenation6393
@twelvenation6393 11 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge no the video was taken at night time. The reasons the clouds are white is because its inverted to see at night
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 11 ай бұрын
@@twelvenation6393 the video was made using a static image and Ashton has even acknowledged this
@sandrafaith
@sandrafaith 11 ай бұрын
...I can't believe it's been almost 10 years already Edit: Thanks for the VFX deep dive... it was all VERY instructive. Great video covering all of the bases. Your collective hard work was much appreciated :)
@Lee-mx5li
@Lee-mx5li 11 ай бұрын
Regarding the Captain, WEEKS and the day BEFORE, Hotel management RECIEVED SEVERAL COMPLAINTS OF HIS ADVANCES, one was a Flight Attendant. ALL ON RECORD 'BEFORE' FATAL FLIGHT
@tmillermann700
@tmillermann700 11 ай бұрын
I mean, honestly, how many people say after the fact yeah I thought he was gonna take down a plane I mean really come on nobody ever sees this coming… there’s no doubt he crashed his plane and took the lives of everybody on the plane. What a selfish thing to do.
@josephpatterson4042
@josephpatterson4042 11 ай бұрын
I thought the "wormhole" videos looked fake the first time I saw them then Aidan² damn near does a perfect replication of the one in a couple minutes 🤯
@dlouhejjenda
@dlouhejjenda 11 ай бұрын
What I found very odd is the angle of the blast which is perfectly perpendicular to drone point of view while the flight path was not, nor the plane of three spheres movement.
@maggotdog2176
@maggotdog2176 11 ай бұрын
Because it’s a black hole
@zacharylansing
@zacharylansing 8 ай бұрын
Well it’s not that it’s perpendicular but that it visually looks that way since that’s the vantage point.
@DeShawnGreen2001
@DeShawnGreen2001 9 күн бұрын
a flash caught on a lens will always be "forward facing" to the lens.
@Killer_Rhapsody
@Killer_Rhapsody 11 ай бұрын
Another amazing video! I love the collaboration between you two and your different backgrounds. Always makes for a fantastic new perspective on things. And also Archie being a model at the end was fabulous. Five stars for professional model doggo! ❤
@MariahD16
@MariahD16 9 ай бұрын
Just gotta say, I really enjoyed Nigel Thornbe- I mean, Aiden Thornberry's breakdown of the video editing. I know nothing about editing so seeing him explain all of that was really cool!
@itshector9188
@itshector9188 10 ай бұрын
Correction. The disabling the acars from the ee bay is not the only way. It can also be disabled by isolating the left ac bus with the electrical panel in the cockpit.
@bricedesmaures6216
@bricedesmaures6216 10 ай бұрын
ACARS can also be deactivated from cockpit by just clicking a function on a screen.
@kettlefever
@kettlefever 11 ай бұрын
I remember quite clearly when this initially happened an Australian or nzer on a rig in the South China Sea reported seeing a plane falling into the sea on fire. Never heard much about it again.
@andysmith1996
@andysmith1996 10 ай бұрын
Because it quickly became clear that the plane had gone into the Southern Indian Ocean.
@HaywoodJablomii
@HaywoodJablomii 11 ай бұрын
you deserve more subs. great video, man.
@sunbreaker1758
@sunbreaker1758 11 ай бұрын
i knew the MH370 livestream guest was full of it when he started speaking star trek sci-fi speak
@magarkouyoumdjian9722
@magarkouyoumdjian9722 9 ай бұрын
If it was downed by Vietnam, how do you explain the subsequent handshakes that continued for several hours?
@michaelbernard6220
@michaelbernard6220 11 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh. I thought you were working up to the Jeff Wise hypothesis. That one was always my pet theory. Now you got me transfixed
@2CalaLilly
@2CalaLilly 9 ай бұрын
No. There was no conspiracy involved with the MH370 incident. The pilot deliberately killed everyone on board and allowed the plane to run out of fuel so it would crash in the most remote part of the Indian Ocean. Period. The crash site might or might not ever be found, but it is probably somewhere along or near what is called the 7th arc.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 9 ай бұрын
Why?
@dlfhtr-o8x
@dlfhtr-o8x 9 ай бұрын
BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT BOT
@martinharris5017
@martinharris5017 11 ай бұрын
This was your best ever, Lore lodge team. Logical, thorough, covered all the theories in detail (I was particularly looking forward to your research on Freescale). FYI a fellow New Zealander, Ed of The Outer Light channel, did a good analysis of the alleged satellite/drone clips and concluded they are fakes. From one researcher to another, I'm Really, really impressed. You made me look at the Freescale theory with fresh eyes.
@jameswalker6440
@jameswalker6440 10 ай бұрын
I like your thoroughness on a story. Would you consider doing one on flight 800 that crashed in New York?
@Snickerszn
@Snickerszn 2 ай бұрын
Was there conspiracy theories about that? I remeber it on the news when I was a kid.
@melgibsonafter5beers329
@melgibsonafter5beers329 11 ай бұрын
The panel for context is how you know that this video is going to be a good one.
@problem_rob3932
@problem_rob3932 11 ай бұрын
Very helpful and well done segment evaluating the videos from the perspective of editing possibilities. You guys are hitting it out of the park.
@markweston5653
@markweston5653 11 ай бұрын
With regard to the lithium ion battery question. I am a pilot with more than a decade flying in airline, charter, and corporate operations around the world. Lithium ion battery fires became a large part of our training. The danger is that they are a burning solid and cannot be put out with a fire extinguisher. Instead the only way to put them out is by cooling them off or using a specialized "fire sock" to contain them. Most airlines and large worldwide corporate operators have these installed on aircraft and are trained in their use. For those that don't, the training is usually to get a container and submerge the device in cold water, not ice (as it will insulate the fire). As well as strict rules about lithium batteries in cargo areas. As was the case with my time in Learjets as we did not have a baggage fire indicator.
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