Did Governments Lie About This Missing Plane? | MH370 EXPLAINED Part I

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In the early hours of March 8th 2014, a Boeing 777 vanished off of radar over the South China Sea with 239 souls aboard. It rapidly became on of the greatest mysteries of all time, with governments and civilians alike racing at first to find the aircraft, and then to explain what happened. In 2018, a report was released which claimed to answer the majority of the questions, and yet a careful analysis reveals numerous inconsistencies; and some of them point to a coverup. Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
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@Tully_23_32
@Tully_23_32 7 ай бұрын
My cousin is in the RAAF in intelligence. I remember he was actually investigating the disappearance of this flight but he wasn't allowed to tell us anything about the investigation as it was kept completely under wraps which was quite frustrating. He also did a lot of investigating to do with UFO's across the country which was right up his alley as he was a believer in UFO's & Aliens as am i & my mum but once again he could only tell us he was investigating as a part of intelligence but couldn't say anymore which was such a tease lol. I also asked him why his airbase at Williamstown in Newcastle in our state of NSW, on Australia's East Coast, around 2 hours & a bit north of Sydney were investigating the missing plane & that too he couldn't tell us. I'd love to know why his intelligence team were on the case & I'd love to know exactly what he knows about the missing flight & if he knew what happened but being intelligence & sworn to secrecy we'll never know
@juliemanarin4127
@juliemanarin4127 7 ай бұрын
Are they expensive?
@darklegionnaire8304
@darklegionnaire8304 7 ай бұрын
if it was fly by wire how the hell did it change direction????
@farrenrohana
@farrenrohana 7 ай бұрын
EVERYONE in the Airlines industry that is involved with any aspect that involves safety in any way should have an excellent command of the English language ESPECIALLY pilots, co-pilots, navigators, flight attendants, and air traffic control FFS DUH!! 🤦‍♀️
@itskarl79
@itskarl79 7 ай бұрын
It’s probably sitting in the bottom of the Caldera in the middle of Diego Garcia. I just throw wild guesses at stuff.
@Grimnir_x
@Grimnir_x 7 ай бұрын
It's terrifying knowing there's this much of a language barrier between the people in charge of air traffic.
@hurricanemeridian8712
@hurricanemeridian8712 7 ай бұрын
This is normal because unsurprisingly people dont all speak the same language when they are born
@srslywtfcl4p404
@srslywtfcl4p404 7 ай бұрын
@@hurricanemeridian8712 that doesnt make it less scary. one would hope that people in such positions were able to communicate more clearly
@SiFi5478
@SiFi5478 6 ай бұрын
​@@RobertELee420😂
@mikearakelian6368
@mikearakelian6368 6 ай бұрын
Everyone is supposed to speak English as is is international aviation language.!!!! Many airline drift on this( JAL) and this creates safety issues.i was an instructor at JAL so I kno of this.i quit carrier because of differences. I believe an ongoing safety problem...
@dena81
@dena81 6 ай бұрын
That was seriously frightening especially if one of them tried to lie to cover up their slacking on the job. Especially since the conversation basically sounds like an airplane version of Who's on first
@Astrolex12
@Astrolex12 6 ай бұрын
As a pilot who regularly flies jets up to flight level 450, I'd like to point out that wind speeds above FL300 are very often above 100 knots (115mph). The plane's maximum speed is based on how fast it flies through the air, not the ground. In order to make 650 miles with a max speed of 590 mph, you would only need a tailwind of 60mph (52 knots) which is 100% possible
@lucst.martin2112
@lucst.martin2112 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out. The tailwind component should definitely be considered.
@champstar9669
@champstar9669 6 ай бұрын
@alexarsenault4824 Then you are also aware that the "winds aloft" aka the jetstream are always shown as a crazy wave pattern that looks random on TV weather reports...but when plotted on a flat Earth map, circle perfectly.
@TheVintagesteal
@TheVintagesteal 6 ай бұрын
I just knew to chk comments for something interesting, what are you suggesting? Thoughts? ​@@champstar9669
@TheVintagesteal
@TheVintagesteal 6 ай бұрын
​@@champstar9669Please continue,
@Astrolex12
@Astrolex12 6 ай бұрын
@@champstar9669 I have seen the edge from FL450
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 3 ай бұрын
15:50 - Mentour Pilot recently did a video on this and mentioned that there are two reasons a pilot might make a second, redundant ATC call like that a short time later. 1: You had to switch to a different frequency or had to attend to something else, you came back, and wanted to make sure you didn't miss anything, so you call in and see if ATC responds with anything other than to say ok. 2: If workload is high sometimes you lose track of what was already called and might do this just to be on the safe side.
@TheMJsisters
@TheMJsisters 3 ай бұрын
i've watched everything I could find on MH370....some good, some really bad. They all talk about the cargo but nobody goes indepth into the mangosteen that was supposedly on the plane In the philippine, mangosteen is harvested from july to september/october and remains edible for upto 30 days after harvesting, which takes us to november.....MH370 was in march, there couldn't have been mangosteen on the aircraft
@jordanhenshaw
@jordanhenshaw 2 ай бұрын
@@TheMJsisters Lot's of fishy stuff happens when cops come a lurking. Doesn't mean the fishy stuff has anything to do with the reason the plane went down. Could have been drugs for all we know.
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 Ай бұрын
@@TheMJsistersI’m sure I saw that plant in a store a few months ago
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 Ай бұрын
His video was amazing but even he left some parts out. The last two voice recordings sound so different to all the rest it seems like it might even be a different person
@TheMJsisters
@TheMJsisters Ай бұрын
@@shoazdon7000 Where? which country?
@usveteran9893
@usveteran9893 3 ай бұрын
To repeat his location a second time without being prompted is not unheard of if he didn't remember doing it the first time.
@SockieTheSockPuppet
@SockieTheSockPuppet 7 ай бұрын
And remember kids, the next time that somebody tells you, "The government wouldn't do that!" - *_OH. YES. THEY. WOULD._*
@GODisWatchingYOU
@GODisWatchingYOU 7 ай бұрын
No they wouldn't. Not even the government would do something for no gain whatsoever. Conspiracy brain rot. You have holes in your brain.
@joelspaulding5964
@joelspaulding5964 7 ай бұрын
💯
@Capsuleer7
@Capsuleer7 7 ай бұрын
Would. Could. And most definitely HAVE.
@pinkminipuff
@pinkminipuff 7 ай бұрын
I remember my grandparents saying the government wouldn't do such-and- such-shady shit in the USA the other year. I just kind of had to sit, wondering what it was like to trust any government official that much.
@sarahbowman7566
@sarahbowman7566 7 ай бұрын
@@pinkminipuff The only good system is a sound system. The gov here are sketchy af but I feel so sorry for all of you as your gov is undoubtedly the largest current threat to the whole planet and as such I believe that morally they have no issue treating regular folk as collateral damage for furthering their agenda.
@StoneInMySandal
@StoneInMySandal 7 ай бұрын
I did seaborne search and rescue for the USN for over a decade. The first thing people fail to understand is how vast the ocean is. In training we use a NYC square block as an example. If you dropped that city block in the ocean you would have a 10% chance of finding it if you arrived to the last known location within an hour. At two hours the chances are less than 3%. An entire city block. That’s 237,000 square feet. Happily, very few civilian aircraft end up in the sea. The point here is that you don’t need conspiracy theories to explain where the plane went.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
You’re assuming the plane went where they say it did. I don’t believe it ever went south, and I firmly believe Inmarsat lied about the data they presented.
@hubriswonk
@hubriswonk 7 ай бұрын
But no debris at all? Not even seat that also double as a personal flotation device? And then years later they find a flap that they claim came from the plane? I understand what your comparison, but even life boats washed ashore after the Titanic sunk.
@defies4626
@defies4626 5 ай бұрын
@@hubriswonk After a week? Yeah, it's absurdly unlikely that debris would be on the surface by that point, especially if it was plunged into the clipper current. The southern oceans are beasts with few equals, and it is astoundingly unlikely that any part would remain. Whole-ass ships just go 'piff' and vanish down there, even to this day. That was the whole point of taking it down there, to make sure it goes down in the kind of conditions that would render it impossible to reasonably find.
@EB-73-
@EB-73- 4 ай бұрын
Irrelevancy. The ocean is big, but our technology is vast and far reaching. While ofc it's certainly very possible to lose something once it dips below the water line, just about all the way up until the last wave lapped over its surface, we should have known EXACTLY where it was. The mystery isn't "where the plane is" although I'm sure of course the families would love to know. They mystery, is "why isn't the plane where it's supposed to be" I realize the technology was a little bit lacking in 2014 compared to the decade since, but the point still stands. It's not the fact that it's still missing, it's the fact that it WENT missing.
@defies4626
@defies4626 4 ай бұрын
@EB-qb1vl the area the plane was most likely downed in would have resulted in it being sunk by wave action in very short order. And that is if it landed softly instead of being faceplanted in the waves.
@lilgooblersvids269
@lilgooblersvids269 Ай бұрын
The guy from Atlanta is one of the ONLY companies in the world that handle mass disasters. Pretty much all airlines have him on speed dial specifically for him being one of the first on scene as the disaster unfolds. His business is covered in one of the chapters in the 2023 book All the Living and the Dead.
@appulsprite
@appulsprite 5 ай бұрын
as someone obessed with this disappearance, i would like to recommend Green Dot Aviation's documentary on this. it is simply brilliant and explains everything you could possibly wonder about.
@ZalexMusic
@ZalexMusic 5 ай бұрын
that "documentary" is hot garbage. 100% speculation presented as fact. "the first officer went to get the captain his coffee", ok bro. it's a smear job against the captain with precisely zero evidence but green dot's feelings
@jameslinmd
@jameslinmd 5 ай бұрын
​@@ZalexMusicnegative. The final nail in the coffin is the fly simulation he did before the "accident". It's premeditated. Case closed.
@appulsprite
@appulsprite 5 ай бұрын
@@ZalexMusic he explains in the beginning of the video that he will apply occam's razor to the incident. it is also very clear what evidence is evidence and what details are speculation, as he's clear about the source of each bit of information.
@Bhubnipz
@Bhubnipz 5 ай бұрын
@@ZalexMusic Yeah better to get your opinion from some random dude with an Adderall prescription saying “but the government lies so let’s listen to Ashton Forbes who thinks aliens stole it through a portal” lmao
@ZalexMusic
@ZalexMusic 5 ай бұрын
it's interesting how every other green dot video is about aviation and this one is about the made up psychology of the captain. I wonder why that is. Also, who said anything about Ashton Forbes?
@simplykudos5249
@simplykudos5249 7 ай бұрын
Airline pilot here, though it seem out of nowhere the pilots contacted the air traffic controllers saying flight level 350. Sometimes we want to attract attention from the traffic controllers when we feel like we should be transferred to another traffic controller area. That’s something I also sometimes do. Its like saying “hey I am at this altitude, look at your screen. I should have been transferred to another ATC.” Not just for ATC transfer, it could also be for something else.thanks. Edit: i just read the transcript, the pilots were givem instruction to climb FL350, the pilots readback the instruction but the ATC didnt acknowledge which it should. The pilots prob want to comfirm again that they are following the right instruction. Also the flight number MH370, when doing the readback they would have said FL350 MH370. Which sounds simmilar, sometimes being human we could confuse the two numbers. So when that happens we like to confirm again to the ATC.
@csexecutiveservices
@csexecutiveservices 7 ай бұрын
In the video around 46 minutes (VPG 1914 FL 360 SQ 6345) seems to me to imply secondary radar but I can't find the airway or waypoint vpg 1914. Can't to my military experience and understanding have a squak code without secondary/ads-b. Only thing I can find is an older map of asia that implies northern indian ocean tho.
@rafbarkway5280
@rafbarkway5280 6 ай бұрын
HE said an interesting fact I didn't know about the 777. the fly-by-wire system defaults to a flight mode that cannot safely land the plane. If you think about it, this is how MH370 flew. Radar shows approach to several airports, and varying height and speed consistant with a control problem. We know the 777 has a problem burning up the 3-phase AC switchover panel. If electrical power was lost to the flight control computers, this is EXACTLY what I would expect. Do you have any flight experience in a 777? My flight time is 3hrs in a Cesna,1hr heli. is this theory plausable? We know the LH AC bus was lost, it powers the SATCOM PA. It later returned. Thoughts? PS: I am a systems engineer,so looking for system problems is second nature, but I have no technical knowledge on 777's.
@saintniccage2818
@saintniccage2818 6 ай бұрын
You fly boys always crack me up
@wrongturnVfor
@wrongturnVfor 6 ай бұрын
Do you know what VPG 1914 would mean? Does it have anything to do with pressure altitude. I am very confused. TY.
@makaveli8979
@makaveli8979 6 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff!
@scotterton
@scotterton 7 ай бұрын
Restarting this video after spending well over 5 minutes thinking about how badly naming planes would screw up comms and ATC radars. That said, I do love your content and appreciate the thoroughness guys!
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
I know but like it would be so cool
@SalemSphynx
@SalemSphynx 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodgeAgreed, lol.. I actually hit pause to share my plane name ideas w/my bf in another room who also agreed he liked your idea😂
@prjndigo
@prjndigo 7 ай бұрын
every plane in both chinese airlines would be named some slightly different pronounced version of "heavenly dragon dick" too...
@3rdeye671
@3rdeye671 7 ай бұрын
Some planes do get named. Like the Qantas 'Spirit of Australia' plane decked out in special paintwork. It's mainly promotional and several airlines do it to certain of their craft. It doesn't change their call sign designation and isn't anything to do with radar or air traffic control. Just something for the public marketing.
@sprcemt
@sprcemt 7 ай бұрын
Some airlines do name their planes. For example, Pan Am named all their planes starting with “Clipper” the plane that crashed in Tenerife was “Clipper Victor” and at Lockerbie “Clipper Maid of the Seas” ) Also Air India names their aircraft as well such as Emperor Ashoka and Konark. Also many airlines have unique radio call signs such as “Shamrock” for Aer Lingus, “:Speedbird” for British Airways “Dynasty” for China Airlines “Redwood” for Virgin America “Brickyard” for Republic air And “Clipper” for Pan Am Then the flight number they are flying is attached to the call sign for the current flight. Like “Malaysian (callsign) 370 (current flight) I hope this isn’t to convoluted I’m a bit of an aviation buff.
@curtcoeurdelion
@curtcoeurdelion 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Daniel Radcliffe for this excellent explanation!
@CSTam-vy7bp
@CSTam-vy7bp 6 ай бұрын
😂
@kennithjones5907
@kennithjones5907 6 ай бұрын
I was so confused at first😂
@mrs.p.studge4349
@mrs.p.studge4349 6 ай бұрын
LOL Awesome!
@starfire999x
@starfire999x 6 ай бұрын
lmao
@Damaged7
@Damaged7 6 ай бұрын
Doesn't even look like him at all.
@ElViperr408
@ElViperr408 6 ай бұрын
The Netflix documentary is one of the worst documentaries I have ever seen. The lady with the satellite “images” was just laughable 💀💀💀
@puppersissage8640
@puppersissage8640 3 ай бұрын
bro any one of us could have done that and people like the guy in the video would believe it 💀
@roberteddy5595
@roberteddy5595 7 ай бұрын
As someone that has worked in aircraft maintenance for well over a decade, it isn't that strange that a data plate would be missing, especially if the part had been floating in the Indian Ocean for a couple years. They are very thin sheets of metal and not designed to be submerged in salt water for years.
@shanepaynter5591
@shanepaynter5591 7 ай бұрын
It’s also not that strange that a data plate is missing when it’s a sticker or just glued on in normal daily operation. Slightly annoyed the cockpit clips is a caravan with a g1000 and not even any type of airliner lol
@beanman853
@beanman853 7 ай бұрын
would also add that serial numbers relatively regularly get mixed between aircraft
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
@@shanepaynter5591 we can only access so much stock footage so sometimes we have to compromise for something close but not exact unfortunately
@hoi-polloi905
@hoi-polloi905 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodgehomina homina homina bazinga kachow
@jonyemm
@jonyemm 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodge if the photo or video on the screen isn't of what is being discussed you're better off just showing the host. Stock footage does nothing to help the viewer and only makes them question the validity of the video.
@snappers_antique_firearms
@snappers_antique_firearms 7 ай бұрын
I am a pilot but i'm not a Commercial pilot. The pilot repeating he was at 35000 feet 7 mins after the first call. Could mean he was unsure that he had made the call earlier and just repeated it to make sure ground knew he made it to 35000 feet. Sometimes you can get busy and it happens.
@bryanford1139
@bryanford1139 4 күн бұрын
ya, he was busy....subduing a co-pilot and passengers...
@TraderG1234
@TraderG1234 3 күн бұрын
Or having transmission problems. Like it was being ghosted in some way which is why the plane thirty mins in front could get communications but not ground.
@johnnymia1563
@johnnymia1563 6 ай бұрын
I watched you on ... now watching your in-depth study here. You always impress how concise and honest your portrayals are as well as full of unknown nuggets of info most do not talk about. So so good and i Thank you very much. You are always my go-to for the best!
@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230
@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230 6 ай бұрын
I have always thought that there is more to this story than meets the eye. As you reported, there are to many inconsistencies in the official report and what was said between the air towers. Most definitely there was miscommunication between the towers and time that searchers could have been in the air & could have located the wreckage. I doubt very much anyone could have survived an impact from that height enclosed in a tin can. My heart goes out to all who lost someone that day on flight 370. Thank you for your excellent account.
@danielch6662
@danielch6662 3 ай бұрын
I don't see conspiracies. These "inconsistencies" are merely misunderstandings, because the researcher is a noob. I'm not a pilot. I'm not an aviation engineer. But I am Malaysian. And simply through already being an adult in 2014, I've already learned more than I want to about all this stuff, which Aiden has clearly missed. I don't know. Maybe his attention was elsewhere, or he was not an adult 10 years ago. Or he was working on his thesis and had no time to pay any attention to this stuff. In Malaysia, at the time, you couldn't avoid it even if you wanted.
@RDog9092
@RDog9092 2 ай бұрын
​@@danielch6662 do you have any theories on what actually happened? As you said the research was "noob". I'd really like to know
@cooperstuart3475
@cooperstuart3475 7 ай бұрын
Hey Aiden, I fly corporate, not airlines, but atc communication is standard across the board. When the capt checked in a second time he could have been trying to confirm with atc that they (atc) heard them the first time. Could have been that the pilots never received or heard the first acknowledgement at FL350. Just a guess but the second check in happens quite often just to confirm if either parties are unsure of communication. The randio frequencies can get congested and only one radio can transmit clearly at a time so it's possible the transmission was "stepped on" or blocked by a simultaneous transmission from another airplane or atc itself. P.S. flight levels are pronounced Flight level 35ZERO, 18ZERO etc... if you have any questions let me know. Your videos rock keep up the good work!
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
So ATC did acknowledge when he reported the first time, my mistake not including that. Not sure if that changes things, but I wanted to clarify! And thank you for the feedback on pronunciation, it really is helpful and I do take it into account
@Warpreacher
@Warpreacher 7 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge the commenter literally acknowledged the atc acknowledgment?
@bloodyneptune
@bloodyneptune 7 ай бұрын
@Warpreacher The second acknowledgement, OP was theorizing why he did it twice, and that maybe it was because the first wasnt acknowledged. Lore was just explaining that the first was, he forgot to mention it
@Warpreacher
@Warpreacher 7 ай бұрын
@@bloodyneptune but he didn't forget, the commenter is talking.... You know what. I can't be arsed. You're a fool.
@rawcookiedohh5559
@rawcookiedohh5559 7 ай бұрын
This is not a red flag to me. I haven’t read or listened to the logs but OP is correct. Also, sometimes task saturation can set in so you reaffirm what you said to ensure you are in the right. Pilot deviation are scary 😂
@Wote89
@Wote89 7 ай бұрын
Still working my way through the video and definitely enjoying it so far, but one thing you may want to consider if you do future videos that involve a similar amount of moment-to-moment location information like this may be to keep a map on screen as you're walking through the route covered, if only to help viewers keep things straight with the glut of information that entails since we haven't spent as much time with that info in front of us as you likely have. :P
@Novsev9069
@Novsev9069 7 ай бұрын
He should fly a plane in Microsoft flight simulator that would be neat
@susannahkoch
@susannahkoch 7 ай бұрын
I would definitely find this helpful! I had to put the video on TV so I could use Google maps to understand the locations.
@sujimtangerines
@sujimtangerines 7 ай бұрын
​@@susannahkochSame. Might not be viable if broadcast live, but when edited embed a simple map with current location point being discussed (or the multiple points in disagreement to show distance/scale).
@ih8brusselssprouts
@ih8brusselssprouts 7 ай бұрын
I was going to comment that same thing! It would be so much easier to follow with a visual.
@Dankbanana1
@Dankbanana1 6 ай бұрын
@@Novsev9069 Let's fly over New York City
@moon-ud8tq
@moon-ud8tq 6 ай бұрын
After a few minutes i thought: lots of work went into the details of this video! 👍👍👍 looking forward to part 2, too.
@canadiangoose7665
@canadiangoose7665 5 ай бұрын
One thing I disagree with you about is how you instantly rule out the pilot taking over and committing murder/suicide. Just because people he works with say he is happy and normal doesn’t mean he is, a lot can go in inside someone’s head without any physical signs and co workers/family aren’t always going to be able to tell
@snipergirl21
@snipergirl21 7 ай бұрын
Hi there! I'm from Malaysia and a new listener to your channel. Thank you so much for covering this case, it still haunts us to this day, and there are so many questions still unanswered. Just one thing, since you're planning on releasing a part 2; it's okay to refer to Kuala Lumpur as "KL", it's what almost everyone uses for the capital city.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
I will take this into account for part two! Thank you. I’m rather unfamiliar with Asian languages so it’s a little difficult haha
@jasonlucas2328
@jasonlucas2328 7 ай бұрын
I always feel the Malaysian government knew where MH370 was but didn't say.
@ianchisholm9260
@ianchisholm9260 7 ай бұрын
And KL is pronounced Koala Lumpur, not Lampur., 😎
@Albanach-je1nk
@Albanach-je1nk 7 ай бұрын
​@@ianchisholm9260 It's not just K.L. that's pronounced wrongly, he's a yank can't help it. I gave up with the Yanks when I kept hearing I was from Skaatlind.
@MojoZ20
@MojoZ20 7 ай бұрын
​@@ianchisholm9260its best pronounced as "Quaa-Lerr Loom-Porr" ..there you go ✌️
@thebestusername5852
@thebestusername5852 7 ай бұрын
Imagine how frustrating it would be to have this language barrier while you're searching for a missing plane with hundreds of passengers!!
@MeanBeanComedy
@MeanBeanComedy 7 ай бұрын
Curse you, Nimrod, and your Deicidal Aspirations!
@therealrobinc
@therealrobinc 5 ай бұрын
Green Dot Aviation's video gave the best presentation and most likely explanation, with good graphics & timeline.
@drpicmeup
@drpicmeup Ай бұрын
Yes, that video was super descriptive and it makes the most sense out of all the theories out there. The science and forensics add up.
@hibaakaiko3888
@hibaakaiko3888 2 ай бұрын
I do love your videos! I usually walk away with facts or historical stories i've never heard before. Whiczh is really saying something because i lisen to SOOOO many factorial podcasts and vids
@user-tc5pl3zw3h
@user-tc5pl3zw3h 7 ай бұрын
Imagine a company that just lost a plane with 239 people in mid air, with no distress signals told the relatives they would be flown to the plane's location once it was found. "...uh... I'll take the train, thanks!"
@dr.karlsatanph.d1275
@dr.karlsatanph.d1275 7 ай бұрын
Yeah really
@williamcarrington61
@williamcarrington61 7 ай бұрын
M H 370 was fitted with the Boeing/Honeywell's Uninterruptible Auto Pilot.
@KaliferDeil
@KaliferDeil 7 ай бұрын
Trains have fatal accidents too. Sometimes, they are spectacular, like a Tressel collapsing and the train plunges into a ravine or river.
@user-tc5pl3zw3h
@user-tc5pl3zw3h 7 ай бұрын
@@KaliferDeil Correct! But you've never heard of a train vanishing into thin air. 😂
@SuperHns
@SuperHns 7 ай бұрын
Good luck taking a train to another contintent. smh
@Recoil1808
@Recoil1808 7 ай бұрын
1. The tangents/rambling vibe you and Wendigoon give off are part of what makes these videos such a nice rabbit hole.
@Pending0
@Pending0 13 күн бұрын
The fact that google has added “context” to this tells me everything i need to know.
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer Ай бұрын
MH17 was a "plane flying over a war zone issue, where high altitude SAM shoot downs had already happened recently" issue. Also known as negligent stupidity.
@roxyhart5692
@roxyhart5692 7 ай бұрын
I have worked as a crisis communicator for an airline. It's not strange that they had grief counselling ready so quick after - a whole chain of events are set off simultaneously. Along with the offer for the families to see the plane and the crash site when available.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
I mostly found it odd that it was a crisis communication from the US
@twilightparanormalresearch186
@twilightparanormalresearch186 7 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodgethat’s weird
@danielchoi2345
@danielchoi2345 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@twilightparanormalresearch186its not. US aviation sector is world leader in every area...
@kelsielovesbbu
@kelsielovesbbu 7 ай бұрын
its weird bc most people on the flight are chinese & malaysian. why would they grab an american person who is located IN america for the families? it's definitely odd.@@danielchoi2345
@craigjohnson3826
@craigjohnson3826 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodge Yeah, I second what @danielchoi2345 said.Various US resources and agencies like the NTSB are heavily involved in essentially every major aircraft incident the world over because of the amount of experience and resources the US has in the aviation industry. American accident resources are basically the first call most countries make when a major accident occurs or is suspected.
@deanhall6045
@deanhall6045 6 ай бұрын
Okay, you got me subscribed and mate, I'm so happy finding you. In depth, factual I believe....and not espousing your own theories, not too much anyway.., nice work.😊
@frost598
@frost598 6 ай бұрын
Honestly learning you have AdD like myself is probably why I enjoy these longer videos
@smhily
@smhily 7 ай бұрын
19:54 dude, spelling that out without putting it on screen is just diabolical
@MechanicalMooCow
@MechanicalMooCow 4 ай бұрын
Could have also just put the airport code up... lol
@FieelFlying
@FieelFlying 4 ай бұрын
He doest that a lot, or when he doesn't remember something and just lets us know, wtf just look it up before filming?? Those kind of things really scream laziness
@mikemarx3071
@mikemarx3071 3 ай бұрын
Don't watch then ​@FieelFlying
@Bigcountry54K
@Bigcountry54K 3 ай бұрын
@@FieelFlyingwell we’re the ones listening to HIS research, wonder how lazy that makes us? Plenty of video essay people out there on KZbin, don’t like this one? Find another one. Do some hard research for yourself rather than listening to someone else’s work before calling them lazy!!
@sahazmarkk5624
@sahazmarkk5624 3 ай бұрын
We young long dongbow airport
@Sinbrogan
@Sinbrogan 7 ай бұрын
I’m a ramp agent, I’m not surprised that an identification plate fell off. I cannot tell you the amount of times one is missing, and has to be replaced, especially on Boeings. Lol.
@anxietyy3263
@anxietyy3263 7 ай бұрын
#RampAgentBros Ramp agent for United & I can concur with that statement lol
@kooldude123
@kooldude123 7 ай бұрын
Yup he coulda found this information easily but it added to the massive conspiracy cover up theory
@DiceMan72
@DiceMan72 6 ай бұрын
Ive always thought that authorities of a few countries know where the plane is but they dont want to "find" it.
@drby0788
@drby0788 4 ай бұрын
Why? What's the conspriacy??
@bernebuckingham438
@bernebuckingham438 3 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and I am enjoying what I have watched so far. Thank you for the work you do. Now that I have subscribed to your channel I will be binge watching for the rest of the night.
@untapupkeepdraw5922
@untapupkeepdraw5922 7 ай бұрын
You might want to check your data on the speed of a Boeing 777. Yes it has a cruising speed of 590 mph. That is the efficient speed not the top speed. The top speed of a Boeing 777 is 682 mph. So covering a distance of, even without taking possible atmospheric conditions such as a possible tail wind, 650m miles in 61 minutes is not only possible but easily accomplished.
@J.C...
@J.C... 7 ай бұрын
How does an entire plane disappear? IT FALLS INTO THE OCEAN. THAT'S HOW.
@Nothing-1w3
@Nothing-1w3 2 ай бұрын
congrats sherlock
@shrotcake
@shrotcake 6 ай бұрын
Dude this is an amazingly detailed series, I am so so impressed.
@metalfly.
@metalfly. 7 ай бұрын
Just a quick side note, when you said it's very unusal that Chinese citizens were allowed to protest, that simply isn't true, they aren't allowed to protest against the CCP, but if you spent any amount of time in China you see people protests about local governments and perceived mistreats/injustice all the time. The Central Government in Beijing is happy to play the benevolent overlord that helps their citizens, as long as the protest is not directed towards them.
@chattonlad9382
@chattonlad9382 7 ай бұрын
The "rule by division" is a usefull tool for any government.
@soggybiscuit6098
@soggybiscuit6098 7 ай бұрын
Antifas mostly peaceful protests.....
@davebeeken3270
@davebeeken3270 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the effort in compiling these details of this complex story. Looking forward to part 2. I am an airline pilot and flew into Kuala Lumpur on March 25th 2014. On television there, the Director of Maintenance was asked some questions, two of which I recall: One question was “Did the Emergency Locator Transmitter go off” meaning ‘was there a broadcast on the Emergency Frequency 121.5?' His answer was “I don’t even know if that particular aircraft had one fitted”. This means that he was either oblivious to the fact that it is a legal requirement for all international flights to have an ELT fitted, or he was not being truthful. Another question was “Why was there not Emergency Procedures initiated when the aircraft was known to be off course? ie. turned to the west. The waypoints were listed which it subsequently flew over. His answer “Because they flew over well prescribed airways” I checked those waypoints on both High Level and Low Level Airway charts and the aircraft was not on any published airway. If you have access to the video of this questioning, it will give the precise wording and those waypoints. At that time I didn’t make notes as who would ever think we would be sitting here now discussing a vanished B777 which never did turn up?
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, this is actually really helpful. I’ve been wondering why it is that the report claims they didn’t pursue the plane as it crossed Malaysia because it was friendly. How could they possibly know that…?
@jamonicle
@jamonicle 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodgedo you think the video of the plane disappearing with the 3 orbs is real?
@rafbarkway5280
@rafbarkway5280 6 ай бұрын
HE said an interesting fact I didn't know about the 777. the fly-by-wire system defaults to a flight mode that cannot safely land the plane. If you think about it, this is how MH370 flew. Radar shows approach to several airports, and varying height and speed consistant with a control problem. We know the 777 has a problem burning up the 3-phase AC switchover panel. If electrical power was lost to the flightcontrol computers, this is EXACTLY what I would expect. Do you have any flight experience in a 777? My flight time is 3hrs in a Cesna,1hr heli. is this theory plausable? We know the LH AC bus was lost, it powers the SATCOM PA. It later returned. Thoughts? PS: I am a systems engineer,so looking for system problems is second nature, but I have no technical knowledge on 777's.
@knock-knockwhosthere9933
@knock-knockwhosthere9933 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheLoreLodge... That means we are sleeping since it's past midnight. 😊
@starlingballet6082
@starlingballet6082 6 ай бұрын
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@kitsunerinkan
@kitsunerinkan 6 ай бұрын
1: I love the tangents. 😂😂😂 Also, I have to admit this video gave me a ton of good for thought. I’m absolutely fascinated and will be eagerly awaiting part two, so I can form more of a fully thought out opinion on what I believe occurred. I’ve honestly always believed it was a case of unaliving or failed hijacking. Anyway, great work as always. I love your videos! I’ve been a long, long time watcher. Thanks!!
@Aileil
@Aileil Ай бұрын
1: I know I'm late to the commenting party, but I agree with you; the tangents give me joy.
@thefisherking78
@thefisherking78 6 ай бұрын
59:40 that's actually easy. They're called tailwinds. No comment on the overall scenario.
@Mr-Damage
@Mr-Damage 7 ай бұрын
I remember when they first claimed they seen wooden pallets floating in the wrong section of ocean they first searched. I specialised in airfreight for a living and no wooden pallets are ever used for fire risk aboard aircraft ever. Freight is unloaded from timber pallets and loaded onto large flat specialised aluminium pallets with no space for forklift tynes nor airflow in case of fire. It is a globalised pallet system. I knew something was fishy right then.
@edgarsbelakovs1647
@edgarsbelakovs1647 7 ай бұрын
Not correct, we load both ULDs and PAGs with standard Europallets all the time.
@Mr-Damage
@Mr-Damage 7 ай бұрын
@@edgarsbelakovs1647 you won't find that happening in Australia loading aircraft but I don't know about Asian standards.
@edgarsbelakovs1647
@edgarsbelakovs1647 7 ай бұрын
@@Mr-Damage I'm talking about Europe and one of the biggest company, who is doing everything by highest standards...
@rbelf001
@rbelf001 7 ай бұрын
Great point.
@quokka7555
@quokka7555 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@edgarsbelakovs1647 if you’re in Europe, then perhaps within the EU it’s an acceptable practice. However wooden pallets, apart from the mentioned fire implications, you also have security issues with nails etc. In Australia (where I reside) wooden pallets on aircraft from a foreign country must be inspected, stamped and approved for entry into the country because of the threat that wood-borne insects can pose to the country.
@randallcrumrine6131
@randallcrumrine6131 7 ай бұрын
Hi Aiden, I am a pilot. Regarding your question about the dialog (46:31) between ACC and the Air Force at Butterworth; That just sounds like a handoff notifying Butterworth that another plane, MH6163 is expected to be at the fix 'VPG' at 19:14 UTC (3:14 am local) at an altitude of 36,000 ft and will be transmitting code 6365 on their transponder. MH 6163 is probably just going to be transitioning the Air Force controlled airspace and are being notified to expect them. Its all about a different plane - so likely irrelevant. The one thing it does bring up is why there is not more of this type of thing. These controllers are dealing with many other aircraft and controlling agencies all night long. It suggests that the radio transcripts you are referencing have been edited or scrubbed of all other radio communications not deemed relevant. I think this one transmission was left in by mistake as you seem to reference few other communications not dealing specifically with the missing MH370.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 7 ай бұрын
So the way the log works is that all MH370 stuff is on the left side of the page while the non-MH370 is on the right. It did strike me as odd that it’s the only one without KL ACC labeled as one side.
@johnfinlay4864
@johnfinlay4864 7 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge Here is a link to a video that may have some information relevant to activities at Butterworth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp2tc4ZvrreJprc
@csexecutiveservices
@csexecutiveservices 7 ай бұрын
@randallcrumrine6131 , Interesting, Flight path would also have been tracked on radial 191 ( aka relative 191.4 Degrees) from Penang (VPG) and be over the water to the west as well, roughly in the area of GIVAL. (but I'm not a pilot, just former us military emergency support). @randallcrumrine6131 @thelorelounge Additionally, I find it interesting they were asking for a position estimate from a company flight in a totally different region. Additionally this is right on the FIR border as well.
@John-wd5cb
@John-wd5cb 7 ай бұрын
If the plane vanished in an anomaly you wont be sending other planes near it soon.
@MegaDj1970
@MegaDj1970 6 ай бұрын
great video and info,, love ur style bro,, will be watching ur vids from the past,, great delivery,, easy to listen to,, take care,, ty for ur efforts,, peace and love bro,, keep on truckin,, ty
@angeladetrizio9522
@angeladetrizio9522 6 ай бұрын
Love your channel. So glad I found your channel. Excellent video ❤❤❤❤
@johnholliday2526
@johnholliday2526 7 ай бұрын
Marine corps Air defense radar technician here. Your definitions of PSR vs SSR is so correct and you word it so much better than the military 😂
@randyhunter8558
@randyhunter8558 7 ай бұрын
Every aircraft transmits a signal that identifies the type aircraft it is. And this signals is referred to as a SQUAWK code. It’s basically an ID code. Private aircraft has their own squawk. Military has one and so on. So when the tower told the pilot to squawk a specific number tower was trying to verify him on radar by his squawk code. Always enjoy your content!!! Great job as always.
@dannylo5875
@dannylo5875 7 ай бұрын
More information...what happened...
@bejbimama6689
@bejbimama6689 2 ай бұрын
The Australian Prime Minister said at a press conference a few hours after the plane went missing that it was an extended suicide orchestrated by the pilot. And I believe him, I think it was intelligence reporting. Of course, he later backtracked on that and I think he even apologised.
@ThroneOfBhaal
@ThroneOfBhaal 4 ай бұрын
46:46 VPG is a location, 1914 is the time it was/expected to be at that location, FL360 is 36000 feet, Squawk 6345 is the transponder code the target is broadcasting at the time. This makes sense since they asked them to estimate when it was going to get there, so they did...
@aleciamv4489
@aleciamv4489 7 ай бұрын
The satellite imagery of the “worm hole” theory had me shook. I’m excited for Part 2
@Noqtis
@Noqtis 7 ай бұрын
it's fake. guy is a spook who is trying to derail the whole thing. "it was tha ayys who wanted the 20 freescale guys. us is not involved. believe me. t. glow in the dark guy"
@calebcrouch6133
@calebcrouch6133 7 ай бұрын
Ashton Forbes has been doing all the leg work on that. He’s been on twitter and just recently started putting up KZbin videos.
@tech5298
@tech5298 7 ай бұрын
Quite upsetting indeed. Saw those playful Orbs years ago in a Japanese ufo video. Same thing: zipping around, coordinated as if by telepathy, playful, organic, deliberate, difficult to fathom what is happening and why.
@naradaian
@naradaian 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@tech5298interesting….are those your conclusions or the contents of the vid you mention? Do you still have any links/? I have seen such orbs….and its really interesting to me. Thanks Peace
@mrbubbarosa
@mrbubbarosa 7 ай бұрын
I'm a retired 747/C-5A/b flight engineer with 35 years experience. Checking in with an unprompted altitude reference is not totally uncommon. But usually will happen if you have an extended period of no contact with control., or you have switch frequencies, or are just bored (not common) A bit odd if hey were just talking to somebody, but not unheard of. As for secondary vs primary radar, ATC radar is optimized for secondary, Primary radar is uncommon in the civilian world, but not in the military world. The military radar of course is setup for primary radar as when the bad guys are coming at you, they will not have their transponders turned on, so you would want to be able to find them. As for the time discrepancies... maybe somebody was asleep and was covering his ass.. it was some ungodly time in the morning. why would they think the plane turned back... HEY.. IT NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY.. IT WENT BACK.. and it was not heard from over their airspace. The ocean here is full of fishing boats. Flying over this area at night, you will see hundreds of small boats all lit up. The jet sends auto messages out periodically and it is sent by satellite. Inmarsat is the contractor that handles this? I don't know but is very possible. I never flew jets with this fancy stuff on them but it seems very plausible to me. And the arc thing, going 2 ways, north and south is also plausible as the time delay would be the same to a satellite in geosynchronous orbit. Air forces don't scramble for something that is not a threat in a pretty much no threat environment. A jet fighter on alert will take 15-30 minutes to be airborne. in that time, the target would be completely across the malay peninsula and heading back out to sea. Chasing it down with a fighter jet that has very limited range running in full afterburner to catch is would probably be unsuccessful. Scrambling jets form something that is not a threat is not very feasible. The best answer to this is one of the pilots locked the door when the other went to pee, and hijacked his own jet. you depressurize the jet, get on the oxygne, the pax will run out of oxygen in 15-30 minutes, and after the guy flying gets the jet going the direction he wants, turns on the autopilot in heading mode, and takes his mask off and goes to sleep with the rest of the plane. Whacko pilots that are suicidal, don't want to go alone. there are several instances of this in the last 20 years, so this is not something that doesn't happen.
@mrbubbarosa
@mrbubbarosa 7 ай бұрын
the jet disappeared at the hand off point. Ho Chi Mihn doesn't want anything to do with being responsible, they say they never checked in, we did not talk to them.. not our fault. KL says it's out of our airspace, its on you.. Nope we never talked to them says Ho Chi Mihn. This is a blame it on the other guy and the other guy doesn 't want it blamed on them. A jet can easily have a top speed of 475mph and cover 530 miles in 65 minutes.. it's called the jet stream, which I've seen over Tokyo at over 220 knots. Not so much that far south but still can be 100 knots easily... this is not unusual at all. I don't have data on the high altitude winds in the area at the time, so can't say anything for sure about that. A big turn to the west could easily have taken them over Phenom Penn airspace. There was some other stuff going on with the passengers having to do with patents over some microchip or something and who owned them if the original owner perished. the jet is in the bottom of the indian ocean, mostly uncharted, mostly not flown over to any degree. Austrailia to Africa is not a big money maker. Either one of the pilots did it, or the stolen passport iranians did it. but why? that is the question that still needs answered
@justendtime7248
@justendtime7248 6 ай бұрын
Interesting take. Always wondered about this situation.
@thookman08
@thookman08 6 ай бұрын
Def. Enjoyed the update to this on going mystery..Great job on your effort and hard work.. Subscribing now ‼️🤟🇺🇸
@michaelsmyth3935
@michaelsmyth3935 7 ай бұрын
49:30 exactly. I trust more in Ho Chi Minh. Their story during this stayed constant. They repeated over and over that they had not had radio contact, just a radar signal, 30 minutes earlier. Not certain why Kuala Lumpur could not understand that.
@AuroraNora3
@AuroraNora3 2 ай бұрын
They didn't understand that because Ho Chi Minh still had not launched emergency procedures relating to the complete loss of SSR and radio
@ekrak0ski87
@ekrak0ski87 7 ай бұрын
I remember when this plane went missing. I was a senior in highschool and when I got home from school it was all over the news. It was a huge mystery then and still is now. Thanks for covering this story Aiden, I always enjoy your videos😌
@joelspaulding5964
@joelspaulding5964 7 ай бұрын
​@@eastsideeric2231Nobody who was paying attention at the time has forgotten.
@bloodyneptune
@bloodyneptune 7 ай бұрын
When I was in highschool the big thing that happened was 9/11. I feel so old reading through comments
@J.C...
@J.C... 7 ай бұрын
There's no mystery. It crashed in the ocean. Everybody knows that. They just don't know where.
@L33tSkE3t
@L33tSkE3t 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, i had just graduated HighSchool the year prior.
@L33tSkE3t
@L33tSkE3t 7 ай бұрын
@@J.C...Although they weren’t able to exactly triangulate it position, they now from the times it pinged a satellite the area it was in within that circumference that it was last at and almost all of it was ocean. Also, a small piece of what I believe was a part of the trailing edge flaps washed on shore in what I believe was Madagascar. The part had identifying information that put it on a Boeing 777 like MH-370 was.
@rareforareasontv
@rareforareasontv 6 ай бұрын
34:12 this is HILARIOUS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the way you USHERED in the ad was genius ✊🏼✊🏾
@datboi2250
@datboi2250 5 ай бұрын
So I'm not saying this to throw shade. Your materials of general criminal character have a lot of attention to detail and are really well made. Also I have a very basic level of knowledge in terms of aviation. That said I feel like planes and flying are such complex topics that you should have done these Malaysia Airlines investigations as a collab with someone with a background in the industry...
@squitten.
@squitten. 7 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for part 2. This event has been living in my head rent free since 2014
@markymark2820
@markymark2820 7 ай бұрын
The fact that they still make planes with transponders that can be shut off or that there aren't GPS trackers which can't be powered off automatically hardwired in literally every single passenger airliner so that the companies can track their movement every single second along their path is just insane.
@barbarachambers7974
@barbarachambers7974 7 ай бұрын
I completely agree. There should be a backup that always works, that Cannot be accessed by anyone. I doubt there is any good reason to turn off a transponder.
@exit-bag
@exit-bag 7 ай бұрын
I can't turn off the glowie tackers in my phone but these airlines can go dark whenever they want, ridiculous ridiculous
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 7 ай бұрын
Very true I remember the silk air flight where among other things it showed how on that and some other aircraft how the CVR, FDR worked as well. You can't turn them off, except you can simply pull the breakers which supply power to them and they immediately stop. Other than possibly not being good on electronics turning off a breaker accomplishes the same end result as turning off the device itself. Over the last several years we all saw how whether you elect to or not cell phones track and report your position. Even if on emergency only gps which is the minimum you can do and without being used by 911 or being pinged by law enforcement.
@TheRoope97
@TheRoope97 7 ай бұрын
Ofc they do! Why they would tell you that tho?? Its USA ofc they can spy where ANYTHING is
@SamtheIrishexan
@SamtheIrishexan 6 ай бұрын
Yeah you know how much those planes cost to purchase and upkeep. I would keep a hidden battery powered airplane low jack lol.
@damiankruger5037
@damiankruger5037 7 ай бұрын
At 26:30 ish you talk about Immarsat and the Rolls Royce (RR) engine data issue. I have used Immarsat and for data links in other aircraft and I know enough about both systems to know there is no conspiricy point here. The easiest way to explain it in laymans terms is Immarsat is just satellite data carrier, similar to a mobile phone carrier (and tower) sending data for you while using your phone. The RR pay Immarsat to alllow their system to transmit and receive their data. When the data signal is lost (just like a mobile) or in this case turned off (?) the Immarsat system/satellite pings the plane (like a tower/s pings your phone) to check if its back on and find the best connection or reconnect, It's a simple "hey you still there?" no data is sent a that point, it's just trying to detect and reconnect, there would be no RR data, only Immarsat pings. This function could not be turned off on the plane. These are the hourly pings Immarsat used to track the plane to an arc. Immarsat uses one satellite to track most (they cover patches of earth thousands of kilometers wide) of the time this is why the arc could be established, but not an exact position. For an exact point on the earth you need 3 satellites minimum, a forth would give you height. A single satellite give you two possible points on an arc (google GPS basics). It was truely amazing work by Immarsat to do what they did. Wiki describes this well too. at 35:50 you discuss a woman finding wreckage in a picture that looks like a low quality satellite picture that shows white water from a wave, the articfacts look like writing but a quick look at google earth will show many similar artifacts. I have spent thousands of flying hours hours looking for items in the water, wreckage is hard to see from 500-1500 FT in an aircraft, suggesting once could read the M in Malaysia (best case 5 feet high) from poor resolution satellite pic's is impossible, a spy satellite could but I never saw any spy satellite imagery in the media. It's unlikley any country would release good imagery as it gives away capability. I recall looking at the imagery at the time on the internet (from France and China I think???) and all the pictures were poor quality, none were good enough to positively ID wreckage. For the record aircraft height i.e. FL180 is read "flight level one eight zero", the way points are pronounced phonetically IGARI would be pronounced as one word EYE - GAR - EEE.
@dickmcwood
@dickmcwood 4 ай бұрын
He can't even explain why any government would want the plane in the first place.
@butchstrey6776
@butchstrey6776 6 ай бұрын
I've watched several videos and a documentary on this, plus read a lot on the subject. You revealed information l hadn't heard. Good job. Nice Tele in the background, btw.
@marmactwins
@marmactwins 6 ай бұрын
So, what about the seven arcs of satellite handshakes that were made with the plane when it tried to login to the satellite’s server?
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 6 ай бұрын
I personally think that whole thing was made up to distract the public once they realized what actually happened
@ginjaico_6132
@ginjaico_6132 6 ай бұрын
​​@@TheLoreLodgeseriously? I don't think that's being particularly objective. To just disregard one of the most important elements of data that shows the potential key to solving the mystery!
@ZeroKitsune
@ZeroKitsune 5 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge Look, I get that you're a conspiracy nut, but to not even mention things like that essentially makes your videos propaganda on the same level of the people you claim to hate. If you leave stuff out because it doesn't agree with your narrative, you're doing the same thing they are.
@TheLoreLodge
@TheLoreLodge 5 ай бұрын
@@ZeroKitsune I didn’t leave it out, I considered the evidence and came to the conclusion that there was too big a gap and too many story changes for that explanation to be likely.
@sknight874
@sknight874 3 ай бұрын
@@TheLoreLodge You know much less than you think you do.
@Blackhawks87
@Blackhawks87 7 ай бұрын
When you mentioned which runway the plane took off from (27R... R for Right) that's all you have to say. The KLIA I'm pretty sure just stands for Kuala Lumpur International Airport. For someone who doesn't like flying and isn't too familiar with all the lingo, you did a good job. Thanks!
@michaelsmyth3935
@michaelsmyth3935 7 ай бұрын
There have been 83 commercial flights that have vanished since 1948 alone. 84 if you count the current subject matter. Over one every year. We never hear about the Cargo planes and such that vanish. A plane can indeed vanish without a trace.
@willoughstewart2226
@willoughstewart2226 7 ай бұрын
83 is way, way more than I expected. My fear of flying just ratcheted up a few more notches. Planes are so heavily tracked that it really, really blows my mind that they can just LOSE them.
@sarahbowman7566
@sarahbowman7566 7 ай бұрын
Hmmm.... most are found all be it in little-ish pieces or years later. But also that number seems somewhat off given how many planes (military, commercial and private) have been lost just by the USA in the Sierra Nevada range in the same period.
@MrRugbylane
@MrRugbylane 7 ай бұрын
That's kinda disingenuous. More than 75% of these are small chartered aircraft (12 or less seats). The amount of missing "airliners" is much rarer and those date from 1960s or earlier.
@anxietyy3263
@anxietyy3263 7 ай бұрын
Varig Cargo Flight 967 went missing in 1979 a couple of minutes after climbing out of Tokyo bound for Brazil (with a bunch of stopovers) It's speculated that the flight crew experienced a loss of pressurization & crashed. The Capt of flight 967 was actually involved in a previous fatal crash in Paris (Varig Flight 820 [1973]
@user-cd8ur2hy9g
@user-cd8ur2hy9g 6 ай бұрын
alot of them were US military aircraft if I recall.......
@Glamdemon
@Glamdemon 5 ай бұрын
i wouldn't trust the fbi
@morningmayan
@morningmayan 5 ай бұрын
As a triple seven pilot myself - reporting your level off altitude is sometimes requested and sometimes just offered.
@tjohnson4062
@tjohnson4062 7 ай бұрын
I dont believe for a second that Diego Garcia wouldn't have picked MH370 up on radar given that it's a military base. Diego Garcia sits right in between radar cross over sections of all involved
@freduklernas3637
@freduklernas3637 7 ай бұрын
@tjohnson4062 I entirely concur Diego Garcia fully knows the whole story of MH370. if they don't, better close the base ...
@trevorn9381
@trevorn9381 7 ай бұрын
@@freduklernas3637 Trust me the US government knows exactly where MH370 is. I worked at that base and I am well aware of its capabilities. Also, the US has had the bottom of the oceans wired for sound since the 1960s to track Soviet/ Russian submarines around the globe by the sound of their propwash. This is how they found the wreck of the Soviet submarine K-129 that sank in 1968 and raised the thing (or at least a large portion of it) in 1974 while the Russians still had no clue where it was. This is how they knew what happened to the Titan submersible that imploded on its dive to the wreck of the Titanic. They heard it implode. If something as big as a Boeing 777 crashed into the ocean, they heard it.
@dianasmith8248
@dianasmith8248 6 ай бұрын
@@trevorn9381 I think it did crash in the Indian ocean. And they know where it is or for the most part, know where it is. But, I think the bulk of the plane broke apart on impact, and the main section is within the search zone that they have already estimated or just outside of it.
@tjohnson4062
@tjohnson4062 6 ай бұрын
@@dianasmith8248 in the most respectful tone possible... you're an idiot. As much publicity that surrounded that plane for you to now say oh yeah they knows it's in the Indian ocean is ridiculous. Our point is the capabilities in the region knew within days if not hours where it was.
@LprogressivesANDliberals
@LprogressivesANDliberals 5 ай бұрын
@@trevorn9381🫡🦅🇺🇸 thank you soldier. I pray for all past, present, & future soldiers 🫡🦅🇺🇸
@yetimcsomethin3517
@yetimcsomethin3517 7 ай бұрын
"Do you know what I would buy" - I really thought our guy was going to launch into a full conspiracy. Nope. Just a super smooth add transition. This channel is great.
@kholomokolo
@kholomokolo 6 ай бұрын
Think it boils down to legal risk/liability reduction on the part of the state-owned airline and the government itself. For them to not come out and say our pilot commandeered the plane on a suicide mission, which opens up scrutiny on pilot training /assessment / company culture to mental health etc... For me it all boils down to money
@bryanford1139
@bryanford1139 4 күн бұрын
anything in decision making found to be "really F'ed up"...is almost certainly due to money
@griparian
@griparian 6 ай бұрын
Good research done on a sensitive topic. Cheers
@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.
@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S. 7 ай бұрын
Hey! Former Australian ATC here. I wasn't involved in the search for MH370 but I know people who were and the most commonly held belief is it's in the Indian Ocean, possibly as little as ten miles south of where we stopped looking. Yes the conversation between Kuala Lumpur and Ho Chi Minh was ... weird ... but I will tell you from personal experience that it can be hard to communicate with people when you're both speaking English as your first language. Both speaking English as your second language? Forget it. The presence of the Freescale employees onboard is also weird until you realise that a lot of tech manufacturing is done in SE Asia so a lot of tech company execs and engineers and so forth fly a lot. And I don't think the FBI or the military contractor is giving out false information, I think they're trying to obfuscate the information in order to hide how they got it ... don't want your rivals to know what you've got. I think Captain Shah committed suicide. Just because he didn't seem to have a reason and didn't leave a note doesn't mean he didn't do it. I could name three people right now who I grew up with who killed themselves without leaving notes or seeming to have a reason. He named the first officer as the pilot-in-charge so the FO would be distracted, then as they were moving from one country's airspace to another - a time he would have known was his best if not only opportunity - he disabled the FO, probably fatally, then turned the plane around and flew until the fuel ran out. Conspiracy theories are more fun, sure, but in this case I genuinely think it's a tragedy borne of mental illness and we only juuuuust missed finding the evidence.
@ElvisPriscillaPresley
@ElvisPriscillaPresley 7 ай бұрын
Let me give you a fantastic conspiracy theory..... one week before 911, if I told you that a group of Arabs have been training in Florida as pilots so that they will be able to fly 2 commercial airplanes into the twin towers, another into the pentagon etc etc.... what would be your reaction?... I'm betting you would have laughed at me..... so, what would you have said?
@WillAH956
@WillAH956 6 ай бұрын
Nothing funny about government lying to it's people
@pythagorasaurusrex9853
@pythagorasaurusrex9853 6 ай бұрын
Almost exactly what I had in mind. I commented in a similar fashion like you, coming to the same conclusion.
@ghostrecon3834
@ghostrecon3834 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, and I bet if we had searched another 10 miles out and still hadn’t found it, something tells me you’d still be leaving this exact same comment, “if only they searched 10 more miles out, they would’ve found it!!” Surreee they would buddy.
@ghostrecon3834
@ghostrecon3834 6 ай бұрын
Not to mention, claiming the pilot was suicidal when there’s absolutely zero evidence to support that claim. I also find it incredibly far fetched for you to act like just because someone is suicidal means they’re also comfortable and don’t care to murder hundreds of other people along with themselves. Especially when nothing but good things were ever said about this pilot. Yeah sorry, not buying the “secretly suicidal pilot who mass murdered hundreds of people just to kill himself” theory.
@lemmehxthat
@lemmehxthat 7 ай бұрын
So hyped for part two. This is insane
@katejones9046
@katejones9046 6 ай бұрын
A timeline as a graphic at the bottom of the video as you are going through the first several days' worth of times would be invaluable. Great coverage.
@Jack777760
@Jack777760 6 ай бұрын
Good, crisp presentation - thank you.
@poppycola1135
@poppycola1135 7 ай бұрын
IDK if this is possible, but for part 2 would it be possible to have a map of the flight plan and the path it took? The waypoint names and descriptions are nice but don’t really give a good visual of where exactly the plane is at one point.
@AmazingMrX
@AmazingMrX 7 ай бұрын
Video would definitely benefit from some maps, markers, and time stamps. Keeping it all straight without visual aids is really difficult.
@mariod818
@mariod818 7 ай бұрын
If you want flight paths the guy who came up with the worm hole theory made a podcast appearance with Matt Kim where he goes in-depth
@av_oid
@av_oid 6 ай бұрын
Watch a video by someone else who knows aviation.
@tidalrose26
@tidalrose26 7 ай бұрын
I feel like Aidan just gets more and more enraged at the various governments involved in each of his recent videos. Kinda gives “man who thought he lost all hope loses last additional bit of hope he didn’t know he still had” vibes.
@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes
@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes 7 ай бұрын
He's OK, meaning better than average for YouToob That can be interpreted is an indictment of YouToob rather than praise for Lodge Lips As for your remark, I can't say I care about his "vibes" or anyone else's I am, however, getting fanboy vibes In truth, I have discovered I can't listen to this for more than 10 minutes, to say nothing of 1+ hours. The pitch of his voice along with the near constant barrage of words literally makes me uncomfortable Must be infrasound The fact I am already familiar with almost everything he has said makes it especially unpalatable
@nightowl7261
@nightowl7261 7 ай бұрын
He's Americans. Americans are extremely anti-government in general. No idea why they established a government to begin with if that's how they are. Might as well go anarchy.
@devon-zx8ni
@devon-zx8ni 7 ай бұрын
who tf r u lmao @@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes
@UltraTaka1
@UltraTaka1 7 ай бұрын
​@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixeswhat in the
@twilightparanormalresearch186
@twilightparanormalresearch186 7 ай бұрын
@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixesthen stfu and don’t watch
@dominiclester3232
@dominiclester3232 6 ай бұрын
The 34 min Segway from evidence to you chair was epic 🎉🎉🎉
@abcde_fz
@abcde_fz 6 ай бұрын
. THANX for the info on the chair, some of us also have lower back issues, and appreciate the recommendation. 🙂 .
@mikevlack7687
@mikevlack7687 7 ай бұрын
Follow the money. The pilot did it, but Malaysian Airlines had to hide that because they wouldn't get the insurance payout if it came out the pilot binned it on purpose. Also if it got out the pilot did it on purpose, no one would ever fly Malaysian airlines again, especially after they saved money by flying over a war zone soon after and got their aircraft shot down. So they kept as quiet as possible, made everything as confusing as possible, claimed their insurance money and tried as best as possible to sweep it under the carpet.
@NysaMulqueen
@NysaMulqueen 3 ай бұрын
You should watch Mentour Pilot's recent upload about this. He is a airline pilot, and covers aircraft disasters. He answers a lot of the questions you have here.
@serrastark4687
@serrastark4687 7 ай бұрын
That was absolutely one of your best deep dives. You should do a whole series of disaster cover up break downs. I've actually been on a weird tangent of watching videos on this exact incident for the last couple of weeks, so it was strangely coincidental that you happened to cover it this week. But of all the ones I watched yours was the best breakdown of all these many, many, conflicting details. I've yet to see any of the others go over the contradictions without saying more than huh, isn't that weird. I can't wait for part 2.
@Blabla_bloblo
@Blabla_bloblo 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, I’ve never waited for part two so impatiently
@martinhastingsis
@martinhastingsis 6 ай бұрын
Very well covered, looking forward to Pt.2. The unidentified plane that travels faster than a 777 can is my pick so far. As in; a shoot down. But I'm keen to hear the other theories. I've heard several on their own but no comparisons to any others. Blessings from New Zealand.
@rareforareasontv
@rareforareasontv 6 ай бұрын
Great video !! Def following
@mistrjt9213
@mistrjt9213 7 ай бұрын
This was intense. Thanks Aiden1 and Aiden 2! Can’t wait for part 2!!
@thezblah
@thezblah 7 ай бұрын
I got a chuckle from the sponsorship plug. Aiden: You know what I would buy? Me, leaning forward in my seat, ready for the wildest conspiracies: What you buy, tell me please. Aiden: This chair!
@choosetolivefree
@choosetolivefree 7 ай бұрын
I had my standard response. "Oh f*ck off", aggressively skip a chunk of the video, and hit the thumbs down because nothing I hate more than being ambushed by ads. Good channels will put them at the end of the video, and not ambush you
@thurayya8905
@thurayya8905 7 ай бұрын
​@choosetolivefree Unfortunately, they are a fact of life, but Mattis hawks them with humor.
@twilightparanormalresearch186
@twilightparanormalresearch186 7 ай бұрын
@@choosetolivefreethen don’t watch, and it’s his video he can put them where he wants
@choosetolivefree
@choosetolivefree 7 ай бұрын
@@twilightparanormalresearch186 Super insightful comment, Captain Obvious
@twilightparanormalresearch186
@twilightparanormalresearch186 7 ай бұрын
@@choosetolivefree then don’t complain about something you can’t change
@hunterjones238
@hunterjones238 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the way you incorporated promoting the chair you use 😂 also love the fact you’re an NFL fan. Great video. This was the first video I’ve seen you do, and it was awesome!!!! Great job. You gained a subscriber 😎
@levinagomes6939
@levinagomes6939 6 ай бұрын
Excellent research and narration SPOT ON
@wellingtonaviationchannel634
@wellingtonaviationchannel634 17 күн бұрын
nah I disagree, there was almost no research. The guy said things like "in my opinion" so many times, he didn't actually research.
@yourbigfatdog992
@yourbigfatdog992 5 ай бұрын
Every time I fly I can’t help but think about this story
@aff77141
@aff77141 7 ай бұрын
We're gonna need a compilation of "the deeper I got the more I realized this couldn't be covered in one part" eventually
@michaelhead7483
@michaelhead7483 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for breaking this down. I've researched this for myself and there's just sooooo much info I got overwhelmed
@elizabethfallert1963
@elizabethfallert1963 Ай бұрын
Listening to this communication and knowing that hundreds of lives are in the hands of these people who can’t string a sentence together is absolutely painful.
@stellaeleptheriadou3062
@stellaeleptheriadou3062 5 ай бұрын
In regards to planes having names, the different planes of Olympic Airways used to have names, such as ships do, but it seems that it didn’t catch on
@agdoren
@agdoren 7 ай бұрын
While the report sounds sus' I can't imagine all of these governments cooperating rather than burning each other at the first opportunity.
@jaynestrange
@jaynestrange 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, a common thread in aircraft incident investigations is everyone trying to throw everyone else under the bus as hard as possible. I think that if there was any hard evidence all the involved groups would be coming out trying to spin it as someone else's fault.
@Erosuorc
@Erosuorc 7 ай бұрын
Great content per usual! Always find time to get cozy & catch new entries. Looking forward to part 2. Oh & 1 btw. Tangents show passion on the topic, & gives some background or depth around the related information. Talk away 🙏
@graham9daws
@graham9daws 3 ай бұрын
When Air France Flight 447 crashed into the mid Atlantic Ocean on 1 June 2009, nobody knew where to look. The US military told them the location and bragged that they knew the exact location of every jet aircraft that was in the air, anywhere in the world... Why not MH370? Diego Garcia, an important US military base, is aprox 2000 miles West South West of Kuala Lumpur, and surely had the best radar system in the area...
@CassiBellissi
@CassiBellissi 3 ай бұрын
Because there is a huge difference between the Atlantic and the Indian Ocean.
@smileyzed3843
@smileyzed3843 6 ай бұрын
I love your rants. Maybe it’s your adhd brain talking to mine, but I literally was just saying to my husband how I discovered your channel and how I love your little side tracks. It’s how I tell a story too 😂😂😂
@HypnoticChronic1
@HypnoticChronic1 7 ай бұрын
If I could make a suggestion regarding covering this particular incident, I would suggest getting in contact with Mentour Pilot, he is a commercial aviator whom is intimately familiar with Boeing aircraft and has likewise covered this particular incident and many other aviation accidents and mishaps. I think he could provide some valuable insight and clarification of possible thought processes of the crew and potential issues that may have arose during this particular flight.
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