Did Governments Lie About This Missing Plane? | MH370 EXPLAINED Part I

[@TheLoreLodge]

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[@Tully_23_32]

My cousin is in the RAAF in intelligence. I remember he was actually investigating the disappearance of this flight but he wasn't allowed to tell us anything about the investigation as it was kept completely under wraps which was quite frustrating. He also did a lot of investigating to do with UFO's across the country which was right up his alley as he was a believer in UFO's & Aliens as am i & my mum but once again he could only tell us he was investigating as a part of intelligence but couldn't say anymore which was such a tease lol. I also asked him why his airbase at Williamstown in Newcastle in our state of NSW, on Australia's East Coast, around 2 hours & a bit north of Sydney were investigating the missing plane & that too he couldn't tell us. I'd love to know why his intelligence team were on the case & I'd love to know exactly what he knows about the missing flight & if he knew what happened but being intelligence & sworn to secrecy we'll never know

[@juliemanarin4127]

Are they expensive?

[@darklegionnaire8304]

if it was fly by wire how the hell did it change direction????

[@farrenrohana]

EVERYONE in the Airlines industry that is involved with any aspect that involves safety in any way should have an excellent command of the English language ESPECIALLY pilots, co-pilots, navigators, flight attendants, and air traffic control FFS DUH!! 🤦‍♀️

[@itskarl79]

It’s probably sitting in the bottom of the Caldera in the middle of Diego Garcia. I just throw wild guesses at stuff.

[@jordanhenshaw]

15:50 - Mentour Pilot recently did a video on this and mentioned that there are two reasons a pilot might make a second, redundant ATC call like that a short time later. 1: You had to switch to a different frequency or had to attend to something else, you came back, and wanted to make sure you didn't miss anything, so you call in and see if ATC responds with anything other than to say ok. 2: If workload is high sometimes you lose track of what was already called and might do this just to be on the safe side.

[@TheMJsisters]

i've watched everything I could find on MH370....some good, some really bad. They all talk about the cargo but nobody goes indepth into the mangosteen that was supposedly on the plane In the philippine, mangosteen is harvested from july to september/october and remains edible for upto 30 days after harvesting, which takes us to november.....MH370 was in march, there couldn't have been mangosteen on the aircraft

[@jordanhenshaw]

@@TheMJsisters Lot's of fishy stuff happens when cops come a lurking. Doesn't mean the fishy stuff has anything to do with the reason the plane went down. Could have been drugs for all we know.

[@shoazdon7000]

@@TheMJsistersI’m sure I saw that plant in a store a few months ago

[@shoazdon7000]

His video was amazing but even he left some parts out. The last two voice recordings sound so different to all the rest it seems like it might even be a different person

[@TheMJsisters]

@@shoazdon7000 Where? which country?

[@Astrolex12]

As a pilot who regularly flies jets up to flight level 450, I'd like to point out that wind speeds above FL300 are very often above 100 knots (115mph). The plane's maximum speed is based on how fast it flies through the air, not the ground. In order to make 650 miles with a max speed of 590 mph, you would only need a tailwind of 60mph (52 knots) which is 100% possible

[@lucst.martin2112]

Thank you for pointing that out. The tailwind component should definitely be considered.

[@champstar9669]

@alexarsenault4824 Then you are also aware that the "winds aloft" aka the jetstream are always shown as a crazy wave pattern that looks random on TV weather reports...but when plotted on a flat Earth map, circle perfectly.

[@TheVintagesteal]

I just knew to chk comments for something interesting, what are you suggesting? Thoughts? ​@@champstar9669

[@TheVintagesteal]

​@@champstar9669Please continue,

[@Astrolex12]

@@champstar9669 I have seen the edge from FL450

[@Grimnir_x]

It's terrifying knowing there's this much of a language barrier between the people in charge of air traffic.

[@hurricanemeridian8712]

This is normal because unsurprisingly people dont all speak the same language when they are born

[@srslywtfcl4p404]

@@hurricanemeridian8712 that doesnt make it less scary. one would hope that people in such positions were able to communicate more clearly

[@SiFi5478]

​@@RobertELee420😂

[@mikearakelian6368]

Everyone is supposed to speak English as is is international aviation language.!!!! Many airline drift on this( JAL) and this creates safety issues.i was an instructor at JAL so I kno of this.i quit carrier because of differences. I believe an ongoing safety problem...

[@dena81]

That was seriously frightening especially if one of them tried to lie to cover up their slacking on the job. Especially since the conversation basically sounds like an airplane version of Who's on first

[@lilgooblersvids269]

The guy from Atlanta is one of the ONLY companies in the world that handle mass disasters. Pretty much all airlines have him on speed dial specifically for him being one of the first on scene as the disaster unfolds. His business is covered in one of the chapters in the 2023 book All the Living and the Dead.

[@StoneInMySandal]

I did seaborne search and rescue for the USN for over a decade. The first thing people fail to understand is how vast the ocean is. In training we use a NYC square block as an example. If you dropped that city block in the ocean you would have a 10% chance of finding it if you arrived to the last known location within an hour. At two hours the chances are less than 3%. An entire city block. That’s 237,000 square feet. Happily, very few civilian aircraft end up in the sea. The point here is that you don’t need conspiracy theories to explain where the plane went.

[@TheLoreLodge]

You’re assuming the plane went where they say it did. I don’t believe it ever went south, and I firmly believe Inmarsat lied about the data they presented.

[@hubriswonk]

But no debris at all? Not even seat that also double as a personal flotation device? And then years later they find a flap that they claim came from the plane? I understand what your comparison, but even life boats washed ashore after the Titanic sunk.

[@defies4626]

@@hubriswonk After a week? Yeah, it's absurdly unlikely that debris would be on the surface by that point, especially if it was plunged into the clipper current. The southern oceans are beasts with few equals, and it is astoundingly unlikely that any part would remain. Whole-ass ships just go 'piff' and vanish down there, even to this day. That was the whole point of taking it down there, to make sure it goes down in the kind of conditions that would render it impossible to reasonably find.

[@EB-73-]

Irrelevancy. The ocean is big, but our technology is vast and far reaching. While ofc it's certainly very possible to lose something once it dips below the water line, just about all the way up until the last wave lapped over its surface, we should have known EXACTLY where it was. The mystery isn't "where the plane is" although I'm sure of course the families would love to know. They mystery, is "why isn't the plane where it's supposed to be" I realize the technology was a little bit lacking in 2014 compared to the decade since, but the point still stands. It's not the fact that it's still missing, it's the fact that it WENT missing.

[@defies4626]

@EB-qb1vl the area the plane was most likely downed in would have resulted in it being sunk by wave action in very short order. And that is if it landed softly instead of being faceplanted in the waves.

[@simplykudos5249]

Airline pilot here, though it seem out of nowhere the pilots contacted the air traffic controllers saying flight level 350. Sometimes we want to attract attention from the traffic controllers when we feel like we should be transferred to another traffic controller area. That’s something I also sometimes do. Its like saying “hey I am at this altitude, look at your screen. I should have been transferred to another ATC.” Not just for ATC transfer, it could also be for something else.thanks. Edit: i just read the transcript, the pilots were givem instruction to climb FL350, the pilots readback the instruction but the ATC didnt acknowledge which it should. The pilots prob want to comfirm again that they are following the right instruction. Also the flight number MH370, when doing the readback they would have said FL350 MH370. Which sounds simmilar, sometimes being human we could confuse the two numbers. So when that happens we like to confirm again to the ATC.

[@csexecutiveservices]

In the video around 46 minutes (VPG 1914 FL 360 SQ 6345) seems to me to imply secondary radar but I can't find the airway or waypoint vpg 1914. Can't to my military experience and understanding have a squak code without secondary/ads-b. Only thing I can find is an older map of asia that implies northern indian ocean tho.

[@rafbarkway5280]

HE said an interesting fact I didn't know about the 777. the fly-by-wire system defaults to a flight mode that cannot safely land the plane. If you think about it, this is how MH370 flew. Radar shows approach to several airports, and varying height and speed consistant with a control problem. We know the 777 has a problem burning up the 3-phase AC switchover panel. If electrical power was lost to the flight control computers, this is EXACTLY what I would expect. Do you have any flight experience in a 777? My flight time is 3hrs in a Cesna,1hr heli. is this theory plausable? We know the LH AC bus was lost, it powers the SATCOM PA. It later returned. Thoughts? PS: I am a systems engineer,so looking for system problems is second nature, but I have no technical knowledge on 777's.

[@saintniccage2818]

You fly boys always crack me up

[@wrongturnVfor]

Do you know what VPG 1914 would mean? Does it have anything to do with pressure altitude. I am very confused. TY.

[@makaveli8979]

Interesting stuff!

[@SockieTheSockPuppet]

And remember kids, the next time that somebody tells you, "The government wouldn't do that!" - *_OH. YES. THEY. WOULD._*

[@joelspaulding5964]

💯

[@Capsuleer7]

Would. Could. And most definitely HAVE.

[@pinkminipuff]

I remember my grandparents saying the government wouldn't do such-and- such-shady shit in the USA the other year. I just kind of had to sit, wondering what it was like to trust any government official that much.

[@sarahbowman7566]

@@pinkminipuff The only good system is a sound system. The gov here are sketchy af but I feel so sorry for all of you as your gov is undoubtedly the largest current threat to the whole planet and as such I believe that morally they have no issue treating regular folk as collateral damage for furthering their agenda.

[@teddnaing6851]

Only governments would do such a thing, cover it up and act high and mighty. Especially the big 3.

[@usveteran9893]

To repeat his location a second time without being prompted is not unheard of if he didn't remember doing it the first time.

[@Wizzet406]

A reason he may have done this could have been if he thought he was closer to the transition point than he thought (unlikely) or he had previously been transferred sooner in the past (more likely). It was kind of a prompt to the controlling agency: "hey, did you forget to transfer us?" Perhaps pushing the controller faster because he may have had to use the bathroom/step out. I'm not sure what their policies are, but perhaps at busy times during the flight, two pilots are required to be in the cockpit. Ie. Take off, climb, approach, and landing. Just a thought. I wouldn't consider it weird. However, I would think it strange. If those were the reason, it would leave one pilot in the cockpit.

[@moosesnWoop]

someone else requested his flight level. He didn't change the frequency over and relayed it again, but then relays it to the after changes frequency.

[@roberteddy5595]

As someone that has worked in aircraft maintenance for well over a decade, it isn't that strange that a data plate would be missing, especially if the part had been floating in the Indian Ocean for a couple years. They are very thin sheets of metal and not designed to be submerged in salt water for years.

[@RumSpence]

It’s also not that strange that a data plate is missing when it’s a sticker or just glued on in normal daily operation. Slightly annoyed the cockpit clips is a caravan with a g1000 and not even any type of airliner lol

[@beanman853]

would also add that serial numbers relatively regularly get mixed between aircraft

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@RumSpence we can only access so much stock footage so sometimes we have to compromise for something close but not exact unfortunately

[@jonyemm]

​@@TheLoreLodge if the photo or video on the screen isn't of what is being discussed you're better off just showing the host. Stock footage does nothing to help the viewer and only makes them question the validity of the video.

[@Nciswit1]

Agreed, I always hate it when main stream media is say talking about an accident in Chicago but showing nypd stock footage of an accident. And totally agree that as soon as I see that I turn off or basically question the story; if they were that lazy to not get the correct picture/video/ or think the viewer is that stupid then nothing they say is credible from that point forward. I understand copyrights ect, so if nothing available leave it alone

[@scotterton]

Restarting this video after spending well over 5 minutes thinking about how badly naming planes would screw up comms and ATC radars. That said, I do love your content and appreciate the thoroughness guys!

[@TheLoreLodge]

I know but like it would be so cool

[@SalemSphynx]

​@@TheLoreLodgeAgreed, lol.. I actually hit pause to share my plane name ideas w/my bf in another room who also agreed he liked your idea😂

[@prjndigo]

every plane in both chinese airlines would be named some slightly different pronounced version of "heavenly dragon dick" too...

[@3rdeye671]

Some planes do get named. Like the Qantas 'Spirit of Australia' plane decked out in special paintwork. It's mainly promotional and several airlines do it to certain of their craft. It doesn't change their call sign designation and isn't anything to do with radar or air traffic control. Just something for the public marketing.

[@sprcemt]

Some airlines do name their planes. For example, Pan Am named all their planes starting with “Clipper” the plane that crashed in Tenerife was “Clipper Victor” and at Lockerbie “Clipper Maid of the Seas” ) Also Air India names their aircraft as well such as Emperor Ashoka and Konark. Also many airlines have unique radio call signs such as “Shamrock” for Aer Lingus, “:Speedbird” for British Airways “Dynasty” for China Airlines “Redwood” for Virgin America “Brickyard” for Republic air And “Clipper” for Pan Am Then the flight number they are flying is attached to the call sign for the current flight. Like “Malaysian (callsign) 370 (current flight) I hope this isn’t to convoluted I’m a bit of an aviation buff.

[@Recoil1808]

1. The tangents/rambling vibe you and Wendigoon give off are part of what makes these videos such a nice rabbit hole.

[@ElViperr408]

The Netflix documentary is one of the worst documentaries I have ever seen. The lady with the satellite “images” was just laughable 💀💀💀

[@puppersissage8640]

bro any one of us could have done that and people like the guy in the video would believe it 💀

[@cooperstuart3475]

Hey Aiden, I fly corporate, not airlines, but atc communication is standard across the board. When the capt checked in a second time he could have been trying to confirm with atc that they (atc) heard them the first time. Could have been that the pilots never received or heard the first acknowledgement at FL350. Just a guess but the second check in happens quite often just to confirm if either parties are unsure of communication. The randio frequencies can get congested and only one radio can transmit clearly at a time so it's possible the transmission was "stepped on" or blocked by a simultaneous transmission from another airplane or atc itself. P.S. flight levels are pronounced Flight level 35ZERO, 18ZERO etc... if you have any questions let me know. Your videos rock keep up the good work!

[@TheLoreLodge]

So ATC did acknowledge when he reported the first time, my mistake not including that. Not sure if that changes things, but I wanted to clarify! And thank you for the feedback on pronunciation, it really is helpful and I do take it into account

[@Warpreacher]

@@TheLoreLodge the commenter literally acknowledged the atc acknowledgment?

[@bloodyneptune]

@Warpreacher The second acknowledgement, OP was theorizing why he did it twice, and that maybe it was because the first wasnt acknowledged. Lore was just explaining that the first was, he forgot to mention it

[@Warpreacher]

@@bloodyneptune but he didn't forget, the commenter is talking.... You know what. I can't be arsed. You're a fool.

[@rawcookiedohh5559]

This is not a red flag to me. I haven’t read or listened to the logs but OP is correct. Also, sometimes task saturation can set in so you reaffirm what you said to ensure you are in the right. Pilot deviation are scary 😂

[@snipergirl21]

Hi there! I'm from Malaysia and a new listener to your channel. Thank you so much for covering this case, it still haunts us to this day, and there are so many questions still unanswered. Just one thing, since you're planning on releasing a part 2; it's okay to refer to Kuala Lumpur as "KL", it's what almost everyone uses for the capital city.

[@TheLoreLodge]

I will take this into account for part two! Thank you. I’m rather unfamiliar with Asian languages so it’s a little difficult haha

[@jasonlucas2328]

I always feel the Malaysian government knew where MH370 was but didn't say.

[@ianchisholm9260]

And KL is pronounced Koala Lumpur, not Lampur., 😎

[@Albanach-je1nk]

​@@ianchisholm9260 It's not just K.L. that's pronounced wrongly, he's a yank can't help it. I gave up with the Yanks when I kept hearing I was from Skaatlind.

[@MojoZ20]

​@@ianchisholm9260its best pronounced as "Quaa-Lerr Loom-Porr" ..there you go ✌️

[@Wote89]

Still working my way through the video and definitely enjoying it so far, but one thing you may want to consider if you do future videos that involve a similar amount of moment-to-moment location information like this may be to keep a map on screen as you're walking through the route covered, if only to help viewers keep things straight with the glut of information that entails since we haven't spent as much time with that info in front of us as you likely have. :P

[@Novsev9069]

He should fly a plane in Microsoft flight simulator that would be neat

[@susannahkoch]

I would definitely find this helpful! I had to put the video on TV so I could use Google maps to understand the locations.

[@sujimtangerines]

​@@susannahkochSame. Might not be viable if broadcast live, but when edited embed a simple map with current location point being discussed (or the multiple points in disagreement to show distance/scale).

[@ih8brusselssprouts]

I was going to comment that same thing! It would be so much easier to follow with a visual.

[@Dankbanana1]

@@Novsev9069 Let's fly over New York City

[@appulsprite]

as someone obessed with this disappearance, i would like to recommend Green Dot Aviation's documentary on this. it is simply brilliant and explains everything you could possibly wonder about.

[@ZalexMusic]

that "documentary" is hot garbage. 100% speculation presented as fact. "the first officer went to get the captain his coffee", ok bro. it's a smear job against the captain with precisely zero evidence but green dot's feelings

[@jameslinmd]

​@@ZalexMusicnegative. The final nail in the coffin is the fly simulation he did before the "accident". It's premeditated. Case closed.

[@appulsprite]

@@ZalexMusic he explains in the beginning of the video that he will apply occam's razor to the incident. it is also very clear what evidence is evidence and what details are speculation, as he's clear about the source of each bit of information.

[@Bhubnipz]

@@ZalexMusic Yeah better to get your opinion from some random dude with an Adderall prescription saying “but the government lies so let’s listen to Ashton Forbes who thinks aliens stole it through a portal” lmao

[@ZalexMusic]

it's interesting how every other green dot video is about aviation and this one is about the made up psychology of the captain. I wonder why that is. Also, who said anything about Ashton Forbes?

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

I am a pilot but i'm not a Commercial pilot. The pilot repeating he was at 35000 feet 7 mins after the first call. Could mean he was unsure that he had made the call earlier and just repeated it to make sure ground knew he made it to 35000 feet. Sometimes you can get busy and it happens.

[@bryanford1139]

ya, he was busy....subduing a co-pilot and passengers...

[@TraderG1234]

Or having transmission problems. Like it was being ghosted in some way which is why the plane thirty mins in front could get communications but not ground.

[@roxyhart5692]

I have worked as a crisis communicator for an airline. It's not strange that they had grief counselling ready so quick after - a whole chain of events are set off simultaneously. Along with the offer for the families to see the plane and the crash site when available.

[@TheLoreLodge]

I mostly found it odd that it was a crisis communication from the US

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

@@TheLoreLodgethat’s weird

[@danielchoi2345]

⁠​⁠@@twilightparanormalresearch186its not. US aviation sector is world leader in every area...

[@kelsielovesbbu]

its weird bc most people on the flight are chinese & malaysian. why would they grab an american person who is located IN america for the families? it's definitely odd.@@danielchoi2345

[@craigjohnson3826]

​@@TheLoreLodge Yeah, I second what @danielchoi2345 said.Various US resources and agencies like the NTSB are heavily involved in essentially every major aircraft incident the world over because of the amount of experience and resources the US has in the aviation industry. American accident resources are basically the first call most countries make when a major accident occurs or is suspected.

[@randallcrumrine6131]

Hi Aiden, I am a pilot. Regarding your question about the dialog (46:31) between ACC and the Air Force at Butterworth; That just sounds like a handoff notifying Butterworth that another plane, MH6163 is expected to be at the fix 'VPG' at 19:14 UTC (3:14 am local) at an altitude of 36,000 ft and will be transmitting code 6365 on their transponder. MH 6163 is probably just going to be transitioning the Air Force controlled airspace and are being notified to expect them. Its all about a different plane - so likely irrelevant. The one thing it does bring up is why there is not more of this type of thing. These controllers are dealing with many other aircraft and controlling agencies all night long. It suggests that the radio transcripts you are referencing have been edited or scrubbed of all other radio communications not deemed relevant. I think this one transmission was left in by mistake as you seem to reference few other communications not dealing specifically with the missing MH370.

[@TheLoreLodge]

So the way the log works is that all MH370 stuff is on the left side of the page while the non-MH370 is on the right. It did strike me as odd that it’s the only one without KL ACC labeled as one side.

[@johnfinlay4864]

@@TheLoreLodge Here is a link to a video that may have some information relevant to activities at Butterworth. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp2tc4ZvrreJprc

[@csexecutiveservices]

@randallcrumrine6131 , Interesting, Flight path would also have been tracked on radial 191 ( aka relative 191.4 Degrees) from Penang (VPG) and be over the water to the west as well, roughly in the area of GIVAL. (but I'm not a pilot, just former us military emergency support). @randallcrumrine6131 @thelorelounge Additionally, I find it interesting they were asking for a position estimate from a company flight in a totally different region. Additionally this is right on the FIR border as well.

[@John-wd5cb]

If the plane vanished in an anomaly you wont be sending other planes near it soon.

[@michaelhowell2326]

The US Navy has to have a good idea where the plane went. Not only do they have the whole ocean wired with mics, but have scores of satellites watching everywhere.

[@davebeeken3270]

Thanks for the effort in compiling these details of this complex story. Looking forward to part 2. I am an airline pilot and flew into Kuala Lumpur on March 25th 2014. On television there, the Director of Maintenance was asked some questions, two of which I recall: One question was “Did the Emergency Locator Transmitter go off” meaning ‘was there a broadcast on the Emergency Frequency 121.5?' His answer was “I don’t even know if that particular aircraft had one fitted”. This means that he was either oblivious to the fact that it is a legal requirement for all international flights to have an ELT fitted, or he was not being truthful. Another question was “Why was there not Emergency Procedures initiated when the aircraft was known to be off course? ie. turned to the west. The waypoints were listed which it subsequently flew over. His answer “Because they flew over well prescribed airways” I checked those waypoints on both High Level and Low Level Airway charts and the aircraft was not on any published airway. If you have access to the video of this questioning, it will give the precise wording and those waypoints. At that time I didn’t make notes as who would ever think we would be sitting here now discussing a vanished B777 which never did turn up?

[@TheLoreLodge]

Thank you, this is actually really helpful. I’ve been wondering why it is that the report claims they didn’t pursue the plane as it crossed Malaysia because it was friendly. How could they possibly know that…?

[@jamonicle]

​@@TheLoreLodgedo you think the video of the plane disappearing with the 3 orbs is real?

[@rafbarkway5280]

HE said an interesting fact I didn't know about the 777. the fly-by-wire system defaults to a flight mode that cannot safely land the plane. If you think about it, this is how MH370 flew. Radar shows approach to several airports, and varying height and speed consistant with a control problem. We know the 777 has a problem burning up the 3-phase AC switchover panel. If electrical power was lost to the flightcontrol computers, this is EXACTLY what I would expect. Do you have any flight experience in a 777? My flight time is 3hrs in a Cesna,1hr heli. is this theory plausable? We know the LH AC bus was lost, it powers the SATCOM PA. It later returned. Thoughts? PS: I am a systems engineer,so looking for system problems is second nature, but I have no technical knowledge on 777's.

[@knock-knockwhosthere9933]

​@@TheLoreLodge... That means we are sleeping since it's past midnight. 😊

[@starlingballet6082]

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[@michaelsmyth3935]

49:30 exactly. I trust more in Ho Chi Minh. Their story during this stayed constant. They repeated over and over that they had not had radio contact, just a radar signal, 30 minutes earlier. Not certain why Kuala Lumpur could not understand that.

[@AuroraNora3]

They didn't understand that because Ho Chi Minh still had not launched emergency procedures relating to the complete loss of SSR and radio

[@smhily]

19:54 dude, spelling that out without putting it on screen is just diabolical

[@MechanicalMooCow]

Could have also just put the airport code up... lol

[@FieelFlying]

He doest that a lot, or when he doesn't remember something and just lets us know, wtf just look it up before filming?? Those kind of things really scream laziness

[@mikemarx3071]

Don't watch then ​@FieelFlying

[@CountryRaven54k]

@@FieelFlyingwell we’re the ones listening to HIS research, wonder how lazy that makes us? Plenty of video essay people out there on KZbin, don’t like this one? Find another one. Do some hard research for yourself rather than listening to someone else’s work before calling them lazy!!

[@sahazmarkk5624]

We young long dongbow airport

[@ThroneOfBhaal]

46:46 VPG is a location, 1914 is the time it was/expected to be at that location, FL360 is 36000 feet, Squawk 6345 is the transponder code the target is broadcasting at the time. This makes sense since they asked them to estimate when it was going to get there, so they did...

[@Mr-Damage]

I remember when they first claimed they seen wooden pallets floating in the wrong section of ocean they first searched. I specialised in airfreight for a living and no wooden pallets are ever used for fire risk aboard aircraft ever. Freight is unloaded from timber pallets and loaded onto large flat specialised aluminium pallets with no space for forklift tynes nor airflow in case of fire. It is a globalised pallet system. I knew something was fishy right then.

[@edgarsbelakovs1647]

Not correct, we load both ULDs and PAGs with standard Europallets all the time.

[@Mr-Damage]

@@edgarsbelakovs1647 you won't find that happening in Australia loading aircraft but I don't know about Asian standards.

[@edgarsbelakovs1647]

@@Mr-Damage I'm talking about Europe and one of the biggest company, who is doing everything by highest standards...

[@rbelf001]

Great point.

[@quokka7555]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@edgarsbelakovs1647 if you’re in Europe, then perhaps within the EU it’s an acceptable practice. However wooden pallets, apart from the mentioned fire implications, you also have security issues with nails etc. In Australia (where I reside) wooden pallets on aircraft from a foreign country must be inspected, stamped and approved for entry into the country because of the threat that wood-borne insects can pose to the country.

[@thebestusername5852]

Imagine how frustrating it would be to have this language barrier while you're searching for a missing plane with hundreds of passengers!!

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Curse you, Nimrod, and your Deicidal Aspirations!

[@user-tc5pl3zw3h]

Imagine a company that just lost a plane with 239 people in mid air, with no distress signals told the relatives they would be flown to the plane's location once it was found. "...uh... I'll take the train, thanks!"

[@williamcarrington61]

M H 370 was fitted with the Boeing/Honeywell's Uninterruptible Auto Pilot.

[@KaliferDeil]

Trains have fatal accidents too. Sometimes, they are spectacular, like a Tressel collapsing and the train plunges into a ravine or river.

[@user-tc5pl3zw3h]

@@KaliferDeil Correct! But you've never heard of a train vanishing into thin air. 😂

[@SuperHns]

Good luck taking a train to another contintent. smh

[@user-tc5pl3zw3h]

@@SuperHns Haven't you seen Snow Piercer?!

[@therealrobinc]

Green Dot Aviation's video gave the best presentation and most likely explanation, with good graphics & timeline.

[@drpicmeup]

Yes, that video was super descriptive and it makes the most sense out of all the theories out there. The science and forensics add up.

[@shelleyross6025]

2:28 ​@@drpicmeup

[@damiankruger5037]

At 26:30 ish you talk about Immarsat and the Rolls Royce (RR) engine data issue. I have used Immarsat and for data links in other aircraft and I know enough about both systems to know there is no conspiricy point here. The easiest way to explain it in laymans terms is Immarsat is just satellite data carrier, similar to a mobile phone carrier (and tower) sending data for you while using your phone. The RR pay Immarsat to alllow their system to transmit and receive their data. When the data signal is lost (just like a mobile) or in this case turned off (?) the Immarsat system/satellite pings the plane (like a tower/s pings your phone) to check if its back on and find the best connection or reconnect, It's a simple "hey you still there?" no data is sent a that point, it's just trying to detect and reconnect, there would be no RR data, only Immarsat pings. This function could not be turned off on the plane. These are the hourly pings Immarsat used to track the plane to an arc. Immarsat uses one satellite to track most (they cover patches of earth thousands of kilometers wide) of the time this is why the arc could be established, but not an exact position. For an exact point on the earth you need 3 satellites minimum, a forth would give you height. A single satellite give you two possible points on an arc (google GPS basics). It was truely amazing work by Immarsat to do what they did. Wiki describes this well too. at 35:50 you discuss a woman finding wreckage in a picture that looks like a low quality satellite picture that shows white water from a wave, the articfacts look like writing but a quick look at google earth will show many similar artifacts. I have spent thousands of flying hours hours looking for items in the water, wreckage is hard to see from 500-1500 FT in an aircraft, suggesting once could read the M in Malaysia (best case 5 feet high) from poor resolution satellite pic's is impossible, a spy satellite could but I never saw any spy satellite imagery in the media. It's unlikley any country would release good imagery as it gives away capability. I recall looking at the imagery at the time on the internet (from France and China I think???) and all the pictures were poor quality, none were good enough to positively ID wreckage. For the record aircraft height i.e. FL180 is read "flight level one eight zero", the way points are pronounced phonetically IGARI would be pronounced as one word EYE - GAR - EEE.

[@dickmcwood]

He can't even explain why any government would want the plane in the first place.

[@untapupkeepdraw5922]

You might want to check your data on the speed of a Boeing 777. Yes it has a cruising speed of 590 mph. That is the efficient speed not the top speed. The top speed of a Boeing 777 is 682 mph. So covering a distance of, even without taking possible atmospheric conditions such as a possible tail wind, 650m miles in 61 minutes is not only possible but easily accomplished.

[@Justcreepinginthebackground]

I've just stumbled across this channel. Man I love how much effort and research clearly goes into these videos. Definitely binging from here on lol

[@Sinbrogan]

I’m a ramp agent, I’m not surprised that an identification plate fell off. I cannot tell you the amount of times one is missing, and has to be replaced, especially on Boeings. Lol.

[@anxietyy3263]

#RampAgentBros Ramp agent for United & I can concur with that statement lol

[@serrastark4687]

That was absolutely one of your best deep dives. You should do a whole series of disaster cover up break downs. I've actually been on a weird tangent of watching videos on this exact incident for the last couple of weeks, so it was strangely coincidental that you happened to cover it this week. But of all the ones I watched yours was the best breakdown of all these many, many, conflicting details. I've yet to see any of the others go over the contradictions without saying more than huh, isn't that weird. I can't wait for part 2.

[@MaddyGodinho]

This is my first time on your channel but definitely not the last. Apart from being totally engrossed in your information the responses from pilots is so interesting and IMO a compliment to your research and delivery.

[@andromedanative6677]

Me too.

[@wazza33racer]

MH17 was a "plane flying over a war zone issue, where high altitude SAM shoot downs had already happened recently" issue. Also known as negligent stupidity.

[@squitten.]

I can’t wait for part 2. This event has been living in my head rent free since 2014

[@johnholliday2526]

Marine corps Air defense radar technician here. Your definitions of PSR vs SSR is so correct and you word it so much better than the military 😂

[@thezblah]

I got a chuckle from the sponsorship plug. Aiden: You know what I would buy? Me, leaning forward in my seat, ready for the wildest conspiracies: What you buy, tell me please. Aiden: This chair!

[@choosetolivefree]

I had my standard response. "Oh f*ck off", aggressively skip a chunk of the video, and hit the thumbs down because nothing I hate more than being ambushed by ads. Good channels will put them at the end of the video, and not ambush you

[@thurayya8905]

​@choosetolivefree Unfortunately, they are a fact of life, but Mattis hawks them with humor.

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

@@choosetolivefreethen don’t watch, and it’s his video he can put them where he wants

[@choosetolivefree]

@@twilightparanormalresearch186 Super insightful comment, Captain Obvious

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

@@choosetolivefree then don’t complain about something you can’t change

[@marmactwins]

So, what about the seven arcs of satellite handshakes that were made with the plane when it tried to login to the satellite’s server?

[@TheLoreLodge]

I personally think that whole thing was made up to distract the public once they realized what actually happened

[@ginjaico_6132]

​​@@TheLoreLodgeseriously? I don't think that's being particularly objective. To just disregard one of the most important elements of data that shows the potential key to solving the mystery!

[@ZeroKitsune]

@@TheLoreLodge Look, I get that you're a conspiracy nut, but to not even mention things like that essentially makes your videos propaganda on the same level of the people you claim to hate. If you leave stuff out because it doesn't agree with your narrative, you're doing the same thing they are.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@ZeroKitsune I didn’t leave it out, I considered the evidence and came to the conclusion that there was too big a gap and too many story changes for that explanation to be likely.

[@sknight874]

@@TheLoreLodge You know much less than you think you do.

[@J.C...]

How does an entire plane disappear? IT FALLS INTO THE OCEAN. THAT'S HOW.

[@Nothing-1w3]

congrats sherlock

[@PretzelSage]

BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THE DESERRRRRT

[@aleciamv4489]

The satellite imagery of the “worm hole” theory had me shook. I’m excited for Part 2

[@Noqtis]

it's fake. guy is a spook who is trying to derail the whole thing. "it was tha ayys who wanted the 20 freescale guys. us is not involved. believe me. t. glow in the dark guy"

[@calebcrouch6133]

Ashton Forbes has been doing all the leg work on that. He’s been on twitter and just recently started putting up KZbin videos.

[@tech5298]

Quite upsetting indeed. Saw those playful Orbs years ago in a Japanese ufo video. Same thing: zipping around, coordinated as if by telepathy, playful, organic, deliberate, difficult to fathom what is happening and why.

[@naradaian]

⁠@@tech5298interesting….are those your conclusions or the contents of the vid you mention? Do you still have any links/? I have seen such orbs….and its really interesting to me. Thanks Peace

[@mrbubbarosa]

I'm a retired 747/C-5A/b flight engineer with 35 years experience. Checking in with an unprompted altitude reference is not totally uncommon. But usually will happen if you have an extended period of no contact with control., or you have switch frequencies, or are just bored (not common) A bit odd if hey were just talking to somebody, but not unheard of. As for secondary vs primary radar, ATC radar is optimized for secondary, Primary radar is uncommon in the civilian world, but not in the military world. The military radar of course is setup for primary radar as when the bad guys are coming at you, they will not have their transponders turned on, so you would want to be able to find them. As for the time discrepancies... maybe somebody was asleep and was covering his ass.. it was some ungodly time in the morning. why would they think the plane turned back... HEY.. IT NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY.. IT WENT BACK.. and it was not heard from over their airspace. The ocean here is full of fishing boats. Flying over this area at night, you will see hundreds of small boats all lit up. The jet sends auto messages out periodically and it is sent by satellite. Inmarsat is the contractor that handles this? I don't know but is very possible. I never flew jets with this fancy stuff on them but it seems very plausible to me. And the arc thing, going 2 ways, north and south is also plausible as the time delay would be the same to a satellite in geosynchronous orbit. Air forces don't scramble for something that is not a threat in a pretty much no threat environment. A jet fighter on alert will take 15-30 minutes to be airborne. in that time, the target would be completely across the malay peninsula and heading back out to sea. Chasing it down with a fighter jet that has very limited range running in full afterburner to catch is would probably be unsuccessful. Scrambling jets form something that is not a threat is not very feasible. The best answer to this is one of the pilots locked the door when the other went to pee, and hijacked his own jet. you depressurize the jet, get on the oxygne, the pax will run out of oxygen in 15-30 minutes, and after the guy flying gets the jet going the direction he wants, turns on the autopilot in heading mode, and takes his mask off and goes to sleep with the rest of the plane. Whacko pilots that are suicidal, don't want to go alone. there are several instances of this in the last 20 years, so this is not something that doesn't happen.

[@mrbubbarosa]

the jet disappeared at the hand off point. Ho Chi Mihn doesn't want anything to do with being responsible, they say they never checked in, we did not talk to them.. not our fault. KL says it's out of our airspace, its on you.. Nope we never talked to them says Ho Chi Mihn. This is a blame it on the other guy and the other guy doesn 't want it blamed on them. A jet can easily have a top speed of 475mph and cover 530 miles in 65 minutes.. it's called the jet stream, which I've seen over Tokyo at over 220 knots. Not so much that far south but still can be 100 knots easily... this is not unusual at all. I don't have data on the high altitude winds in the area at the time, so can't say anything for sure about that. A big turn to the west could easily have taken them over Phenom Penn airspace. There was some other stuff going on with the passengers having to do with patents over some microchip or something and who owned them if the original owner perished. the jet is in the bottom of the indian ocean, mostly uncharted, mostly not flown over to any degree. Austrailia to Africa is not a big money maker. Either one of the pilots did it, or the stolen passport iranians did it. but why? that is the question that still needs answered

[@justindot4887]

sounds like a lot of excuses for a simple thing that you should always be on your A game.. theres no reason not to enquire with that aircraft in this day and age.. if they had a problem and couldnt communicate thats the way how you would find out.. they have the means they should always be on their A game in relatiom to these...

[@hibaakaiko3888]

I do love your videos! I usually walk away with facts or historical stories i've never heard before. Whiczh is really saying something because i lisen to SOOOO many factorial podcasts and vids

[@yetimcsomethin3517]

"Do you know what I would buy" - I really thought our guy was going to launch into a full conspiracy. Nope. Just a super smooth add transition. This channel is great.

[@metalfly.]

Just a quick side note, when you said it's very unusal that Chinese citizens were allowed to protest, that simply isn't true, they aren't allowed to protest against the CCP, but if you spent any amount of time in China you see people protests about local governments and perceived mistreats/injustice all the time. The Central Government in Beijing is happy to play the benevolent overlord that helps their citizens, as long as the protest is not directed towards them.

[@chattonlad9382]

The "rule by division" is a usefull tool for any government.

[@soggybiscuit6098]

Antifas mostly peaceful protests.....

[@DioTheGreatOne]

Does the CCP also pitch different groups of people against each other like in the western world?

[@ekrak0ski87]

I remember when this plane went missing. I was a senior in highschool and when I got home from school it was all over the news. It was a huge mystery then and still is now. Thanks for covering this story Aiden, I always enjoy your videos😌

[@joelspaulding5964]

​@@eastsideeric2231Nobody who was paying attention at the time has forgotten.

[@bloodyneptune]

When I was in highschool the big thing that happened was 9/11. I feel so old reading through comments

[@J.C...]

There's no mystery. It crashed in the ocean. Everybody knows that. They just don't know where.

[@L33tSkE3t]

Yeah, i had just graduated HighSchool the year prior.

[@L33tSkE3t]

@@J.C...Although they weren’t able to exactly triangulate it position, they now from the times it pinged a satellite the area it was in within that circumference that it was last at and almost all of it was ocean. Also, a small piece of what I believe was a part of the trailing edge flaps washed on shore in what I believe was Madagascar. The part had identifying information that put it on a Boeing 777 like MH-370 was.

[@N.I.R.A.T.I.A.S.]

Hey! Former Australian ATC here. I wasn't involved in the search for MH370 but I know people who were and the most commonly held belief is it's in the Indian Ocean, possibly as little as ten miles south of where we stopped looking. Yes the conversation between Kuala Lumpur and Ho Chi Minh was ... weird ... but I will tell you from personal experience that it can be hard to communicate with people when you're both speaking English as your first language. Both speaking English as your second language? Forget it. The presence of the Freescale employees onboard is also weird until you realise that a lot of tech manufacturing is done in SE Asia so a lot of tech company execs and engineers and so forth fly a lot. And I don't think the FBI or the military contractor is giving out false information, I think they're trying to obfuscate the information in order to hide how they got it ... don't want your rivals to know what you've got. I think Captain Shah committed suicide. Just because he didn't seem to have a reason and didn't leave a note doesn't mean he didn't do it. I could name three people right now who I grew up with who killed themselves without leaving notes or seeming to have a reason. He named the first officer as the pilot-in-charge so the FO would be distracted, then as they were moving from one country's airspace to another - a time he would have known was his best if not only opportunity - he disabled the FO, probably fatally, then turned the plane around and flew until the fuel ran out. Conspiracy theories are more fun, sure, but in this case I genuinely think it's a tragedy borne of mental illness and we only juuuuust missed finding the evidence.

[@ElvisPriscillaPresley]

Let me give you a fantastic conspiracy theory..... one week before 911, if I told you that a group of Arabs have been training in Florida as pilots so that they will be able to fly 2 commercial airplanes into the twin towers, another into the pentagon etc etc.... what would be your reaction?... I'm betting you would have laughed at me..... so, what would you have said?

[@WillAH956]

Nothing funny about government lying to it's people

[@pythagorasaurusrex9853]

Almost exactly what I had in mind. I commented in a similar fashion like you, coming to the same conclusion.

[@ghostrecon3834]

Yeah, and I bet if we had searched another 10 miles out and still hadn’t found it, something tells me you’d still be leaving this exact same comment, “if only they searched 10 more miles out, they would’ve found it!!” Surreee they would buddy.

[@ghostrecon3834]

Not to mention, claiming the pilot was suicidal when there’s absolutely zero evidence to support that claim. I also find it incredibly far fetched for you to act like just because someone is suicidal means they’re also comfortable and don’t care to murder hundreds of other people along with themselves. Especially when nothing but good things were ever said about this pilot. Yeah sorry, not buying the “secretly suicidal pilot who mass murdered hundreds of people just to kill himself” theory.

[@poppycola1135]

IDK if this is possible, but for part 2 would it be possible to have a map of the flight plan and the path it took? The waypoint names and descriptions are nice but don’t really give a good visual of where exactly the plane is at one point.

[@AmazingMrX]

Video would definitely benefit from some maps, markers, and time stamps. Keeping it all straight without visual aids is really difficult.

[@mariod818]

If you want flight paths the guy who came up with the worm hole theory made a podcast appearance with Matt Kim where he goes in-depth

[@av_oid]

Watch a video by someone else who knows aviation.

[@PlazmaticBrony]

Props to both Aidans, both for research integrity and fantastic video editing as always. O7

[@SnailHatan]

Lolwüt?? The editing is usually extremely barebones and boring. The images are so small and up for so little time you can barely look at them before they’re gone.

[@kholomokolo]

Think it boils down to legal risk/liability reduction on the part of the state-owned airline and the government itself. For them to not come out and say our pilot commandeered the plane on a suicide mission, which opens up scrutiny on pilot training /assessment / company culture to mental health etc... For me it all boils down to money

[@bryanford1139]

anything in decision making found to be "really F'ed up"...is almost certainly due to money

[@OleDonKedic]

When you mentioned which runway the plane took off from (27R... R for Right) that's all you have to say. The KLIA I'm pretty sure just stands for Kuala Lumpur International Airport. For someone who doesn't like flying and isn't too familiar with all the lingo, you did a good job. Thanks!

[@michaelsmyth3935]

There have been 83 commercial flights that have vanished since 1948 alone. 84 if you count the current subject matter. Over one every year. We never hear about the Cargo planes and such that vanish. A plane can indeed vanish without a trace.

[@willoughstewart2226]

83 is way, way more than I expected. My fear of flying just ratcheted up a few more notches. Planes are so heavily tracked that it really, really blows my mind that they can just LOSE them.

[@sarahbowman7566]

Hmmm.... most are found all be it in little-ish pieces or years later. But also that number seems somewhat off given how many planes (military, commercial and private) have been lost just by the USA in the Sierra Nevada range in the same period.

[@MrRugbylane]

That's kinda disingenuous. More than 75% of these are small chartered aircraft (12 or less seats). The amount of missing "airliners" is much rarer and those date from 1960s or earlier.

[@anxietyy3263]

Varig Cargo Flight 967 went missing in 1979 a couple of minutes after climbing out of Tokyo bound for Brazil (with a bunch of stopovers) It's speculated that the flight crew experienced a loss of pressurization & crashed. The Capt of flight 967 was actually involved in a previous fatal crash in Paris (Varig Flight 820 [1973]

[@CarlosVillanueva-h4k]

alot of them were US military aircraft if I recall.......

[@lemmehxthat]

So hyped for part two. This is insane

[@DiceMan72]

Ive always thought that authorities of a few countries know where the plane is but they dont want to "find" it.

[@drby0788]

Why? What's the conspriacy??

[@armadillolover99]

There is definitely some information that governments have that they haven't released. Like if the plane really turned around and took the path it's believed to have taken, we should expect it to have been tracked on other radar, a common theory is that it must've passed some other military radar installations, but maybe governments don't want to reveal locations of military bases in the area, so they refused to release anything. Also I have a hard time believing the US and China in particular have no information beyond the official story, they both have a heavy naval presence in the area where the plane disappeared and China has all their artificial islands in the South China Sea where they conduct military operations.

[@moosesnWoop]

@@drby0788 no real conspriacy. the plane either caught fire from the lithium batteries (motorala is an American company) or the plane got shot down. They then changed the search quickly whilst a lot of eyewitnesses and media captured clean ups in South China Sea. Ultimately it was covered up not to cause a war with China, given the number of Chinese nationals on board. 4 months later, the sister plane of MH370 - MH17 get's blown up in Ukraine. Nothing suspect whatsoever.

[@tjohnson4062]

I dont believe for a second that Diego Garcia wouldn't have picked MH370 up on radar given that it's a military base. Diego Garcia sits right in between radar cross over sections of all involved

[@freduklernas3637]

@tjohnson4062 I entirely concur Diego Garcia fully knows the whole story of MH370. if they don't, better close the base ...

[@trevorn9381]

@@freduklernas3637 Trust me the US government knows exactly where MH370 is. I worked at that base and I am well aware of its capabilities. Also, the US has had the bottom of the oceans wired for sound since the 1960s to track Soviet/ Russian submarines around the globe by the sound of their propwash. This is how they found the wreck of the Soviet submarine K-129 that sank in 1968 and raised the thing (or at least a large portion of it) in 1974 while the Russians still had no clue where it was. This is how they knew what happened to the Titan submersible that imploded on its dive to the wreck of the Titanic. They heard it implode. If something as big as a Boeing 777 crashed into the ocean, they heard it.

[@dianasmith8248]

@@trevorn9381 I think it did crash in the Indian ocean. And they know where it is or for the most part, know where it is. But, I think the bulk of the plane broke apart on impact, and the main section is within the search zone that they have already estimated or just outside of it.

[@tjohnson4062]

@@dianasmith8248 in the most respectful tone possible... you're an idiot. As much publicity that surrounded that plane for you to now say oh yeah they knows it's in the Indian ocean is ridiculous. Our point is the capabilities in the region knew within days if not hours where it was.

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

@@trevorn9381🫡🦅🇺🇸 thank you soldier. I pray for all past, present, & future soldiers 🫡🦅🇺🇸

[@Blabla_bloblo]

Honestly, I’ve never waited for part two so impatiently

[@randyhunter8558]

Every aircraft transmits a signal that identifies the type aircraft it is. And this signals is referred to as a SQUAWK code. It’s basically an ID code. Private aircraft has their own squawk. Military has one and so on. So when the tower told the pilot to squawk a specific number tower was trying to verify him on radar by his squawk code. Always enjoy your content!!! Great job as always.

[@dannylo5875]

More information...what happened...

[@kitsunerinkan]

1: I love the tangents. 😂😂😂 Also, I have to admit this video gave me a ton of good for thought. I’m absolutely fascinated and will be eagerly awaiting part two, so I can form more of a fully thought out opinion on what I believe occurred. I’ve honestly always believed it was a case of unaliving or failed hijacking. Anyway, great work as always. I love your videos! I’ve been a long, long time watcher. Thanks!!

[@Aileil]

1: I know I'm late to the commenting party, but I agree with you; the tangents give me joy.

[@tidalrose26]

I feel like Aidan just gets more and more enraged at the various governments involved in each of his recent videos. Kinda gives “man who thought he lost all hope loses last additional bit of hope he didn’t know he still had” vibes.

[@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes]

He's OK, meaning better than average for YouToob That can be interpreted is an indictment of YouToob rather than praise for Lodge Lips As for your remark, I can't say I care about his "vibes" or anyone else's I am, however, getting fanboy vibes In truth, I have discovered I can't listen to this for more than 10 minutes, to say nothing of 1+ hours. The pitch of his voice along with the near constant barrage of words literally makes me uncomfortable Must be infrasound The fact I am already familiar with almost everything he has said makes it especially unpalatable

[@nightowl7261]

He's Americans. Americans are extremely anti-government in general. No idea why they established a government to begin with if that's how they are. Might as well go anarchy.

[@devon-zx8ni]

who tf r u lmao @@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes

[@UltraTaka1]

​@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixeswhat in the

[@twilightparanormalresearch186]

@@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixesthen stfu and don’t watch

[@markymark2820]

The fact that they still make planes with transponders that can be shut off or that there aren't GPS trackers which can't be powered off automatically hardwired in literally every single passenger airliner so that the companies can track their movement every single second along their path is just insane.

[@barbarachambers7974]

I completely agree. There should be a backup that always works, that Cannot be accessed by anyone. I doubt there is any good reason to turn off a transponder.

[@exit-bag]

I can't turn off the glowie tackers in my phone but these airlines can go dark whenever they want, ridiculous ridiculous

[@cardinaloflannagancr8929]

Very true I remember the silk air flight where among other things it showed how on that and some other aircraft how the CVR, FDR worked as well. You can't turn them off, except you can simply pull the breakers which supply power to them and they immediately stop. Other than possibly not being good on electronics turning off a breaker accomplishes the same end result as turning off the device itself. Over the last several years we all saw how whether you elect to or not cell phones track and report your position. Even if on emergency only gps which is the minimum you can do and without being used by 911 or being pinged by law enforcement.

[@TheRoope97]

Ofc they do! Why they would tell you that tho?? Its USA ofc they can spy where ANYTHING is

[@SamtheIrishexan]

Yeah you know how much those planes cost to purchase and upkeep. I would keep a hidden battery powered airplane low jack lol.

[@dzet1000]

Thank you for a well researched and convincing piece of work. As I Malaysian, I just couldn't believe the official narrative from the very beginning as they kept on changing facts and figures. For instance, there is doubt about the cargo because mangosteen is a seasonal fruit and it was not the season for mangosteen. So where did they get the mangosteens from, if at all it were mangosteens! Moreover, Lithium and Lithium batteries, mostly come from China to Malaysia and not the other way round. I am fluent in Malay and English and if you can put it out, I'll gladly translate it for you.

[@noelswo549]

The pilot murdered those people and the government new. Even told Australian prime Minister few days after it was a suicide/murder by pilot. They are covering it up, but not sure why. Malaysian president doesn't want that plane found, hence why they told so many lies

[@SaraLovesUbb]

How are you fluent in so many languages my goodness. It always blows my mind when I meet people who are bilingual. Even my guy at the local vape shop, came here from Iran to open a business & does so well for himself. My mind just can't do that. I'm jealous.

[@HypnoticChronic1]

If I could make a suggestion regarding covering this particular incident, I would suggest getting in contact with Mentour Pilot, he is a commercial aviator whom is intimately familiar with Boeing aircraft and has likewise covered this particular incident and many other aviation accidents and mishaps. I think he could provide some valuable insight and clarification of possible thought processes of the crew and potential issues that may have arose during this particular flight.

[@datboi2250]

So I'm not saying this to throw shade. Your materials of general criminal character have a lot of attention to detail and are really well made. Also I have a very basic level of knowledge in terms of aviation. That said I feel like planes and flying are such complex topics that you should have done these Malaysia Airlines investigations as a collab with someone with a background in the industry...

[@Dombobaybee]

I really appreciate you going into the people on board and their lives that are available to be shared. Its so easy to take tragedys like these as just numbers and names. You give them back their humanity and dignity.

[@User-jr7vf]

Oh those pretty ladies on board. I can only imagine how their bodies look after almost 10 years sitting at the bottom of the ocean.

[@stagscoutt]

man i remember when this happened, i was in high school at the time and would watch the news about it frequently, it was really the first news story i remember being invested in and i was so confused as to how a plane like that just disappeared. glad to see you covering it, i love all the detail and info you dig up

[@robertwalker2052]

My concern is the flammability of the lithium batteries in the cargo. A similar crash occured in the Florida Everglades in I believe 1977. Smoldering cargo asphyxiated all on board. It crashed with no survivors. Lithium is prone to inflammation and, all told, is the most compelling reason for this crash.

[@DeanJace0227]

Yeah the two guys on an airboat watched it crash and tried to help and look for survivors.

[@markmiller3053]

That’s not why that plane crashed

[@corchem]

How can you know this with any certainty? @@markmiller3053

​@@DeanJace0227If they saw it crash, where is the evidence?

[@DeanJace0227]

​Darren Jackson what are you talking about there was plenty of evidence in the crash we are talking about. Do you know what you're talking about? We're not talking about mh370. It was hard to recover the bodies bc it crashed in the everglades by Miami

[@crossgrainwoodproductsltd9230]

I have always thought that there is more to this story than meets the eye. As you reported, there are to many inconsistencies in the official report and what was said between the air towers. Most definitely there was miscommunication between the towers and time that searchers could have been in the air & could have located the wreckage. I doubt very much anyone could have survived an impact from that height enclosed in a tin can. My heart goes out to all who lost someone that day on flight 370. Thank you for your excellent account.

[@danielch6662]

I don't see conspiracies. These "inconsistencies" are merely misunderstandings, because the researcher is a noob. I'm not a pilot. I'm not an aviation engineer. But I am Malaysian. And simply through already being an adult in 2014, I've already learned more than I want to about all this stuff, which Aiden has clearly missed. I don't know. Maybe his attention was elsewhere, or he was not an adult 10 years ago. Or he was working on his thesis and had no time to pay any attention to this stuff. In Malaysia, at the time, you couldn't avoid it even if you wanted.

[@RDog9092]

​@@danielch6662 do you have any theories on what actually happened? As you said the research was "noob". I'd really like to know

[@michaelhead7483]

Thanks for breaking this down. I've researched this for myself and there's just sooooo much info I got overwhelmed

[@aff77141]

We're gonna need a compilation of "the deeper I got the more I realized this couldn't be covered in one part" eventually

[@mistrjt9213]

This was intense. Thanks Aiden1 and Aiden 2! Can’t wait for part 2!!

[@graham9daws]

When Air France Flight 447 crashed into the mid Atlantic Ocean on 1 June 2009, nobody knew where to look. The US military told them the location and bragged that they knew the exact location of every jet aircraft that was in the air, anywhere in the world... Why not MH370? Diego Garcia, an important US military base, is aprox 2000 miles West South West of Kuala Lumpur, and surely had the best radar system in the area...

[@CassiBellissi]

Because there is a huge difference between the Atlantic and the Indian Ocean.

[@halloffamer332sammy6]

The Atlantic is bigger.

[@creepyoldlady2995]

I always look forward to your videos, regardless of the subject. You're a great storyteller, and the care you take to be thorough and accurate makes it all the more interesting. Thanks for your great work! 👍

[@765kvline]

Most comprehensive appraisal of the log air traffic controllers I've heard in any research regarding the mystery of MH-370. Splendid work!

[@Naefukabootio]

What a treat to see that you are covering the dissappearance of MH370. I have always found this fascinating and I am a big fan of your research into the subjects of your videos. I am really looking forward to the podcast and Part 2. Just to add, I love your videos and I massively respect the amount of research you put into them and the subsequent detail that you provide in your videos.

[@jillanderson1316]

Really love the amount of work you put into the research and you're dry sense of humour .you are both clever and curious .

[@curtcoeurdelion]

Thank you Daniel Radcliffe for this excellent explanation!

[@CSTam-vy7bp]

😂

[@kennithjones5907]

I was so confused at first😂

[@mrs.p.studge4349]

LOL Awesome!

[@starfire999x]

lmao

[@Damaged7]

Doesn't even look like him at all.

[@gregoryvn3]

Most detailed report I've seen on this topic. Thank you for putting in so much effort. Thumbs up for surprise cameo appearance from a very good dog! Also I consider tangents to just be bonus content.

[@lluviathewolfgirl]

tangents= bonus content, perfect!

[@allycinwunderland]

I just started watching your channel a few weeks ago and have now seen almost every video youve uploaded! Love your stuff. Imo, you have the best balance of "most things can be explained pretty easily but some things are hard to explain and a little spooky". I like learning about these topics with you without feeling like Im bein fed really out-there conspiracies. I think its funny, when I first clicked on your channel I didnt much care for your theme song. Now when I hear it play, I hum along! Looks like it grew on me lol

[@frost598]

Honestly learning you have AdD like myself is probably why I enjoy these longer videos

[@edoardodario]

Honestly the more I learn about MH370 the more I see parallels with the downing of Itavia over Ustica (Italy). For those unfamiliar, it’s an Italian plane that was shot down as well as a Lybian Mig fighter jet over Italian airspace in the 80s. The number one theory is that the US or Italian Airforce shot both down. The official story says it was a mechanical failure.

[@John-wd5cb]

USN shot it down near Italy. Special carrier mission.

[@MAtRiXAgEnTFoXMuLDeR]

So why did veer off-course?

[@TG-fq6vy]

I do not believe it was shot down as you’re describing. It would make no sense that the captain would take a different course.

[@Sammyli99]

so, it was the US, who was on board?

[@wojciechp]

Wait!? The window behind you is fake? It was a lie all the time... :(

[@TheLoreLodge]

Hahahaha it is but it’s a pretty cool backdrop right?

[@bradleybprentice1497]

I am pleased to see your effort on producing this detailed report on MH370. I have been following this thoroughly over the years from the moment it was announced the aircraft was missing. As a long time resident in Asia my work was closely linked to the airline industry. I have my own theories about MH370 which have not changed from day one. These include a linkage to MH17 and the 1MDB scandal in Malaysia. Watching part 1 now and will check out Part 2 and podcast. BTW, it is pronounced Kuala Lumpur not Kuala Lampur. Thanks

[@deegoodwin4060]

How do you think MH17 and the 1MDB scandal are linked?

[@User-jr7vf]

Can you give us any clue as to how embezzlement by government officials would lead to a large civilian airplane completely vanishing? How would this cover up the scandal, or bring back the money that was stealed.

[@eternity8811]

​​@@User-jr7vfretribution..? By anyone powerful who lost money due to the IMDB embezzlement.

[@yasi4877]

@@deegoodwin4060 Their registration numbers for one are very similar. 9M-MRO vs 9M-MRD. O vs D is an easy switch. The other is that MH370 and MH17 although both the same 777 type had different door and window locations on one side. Photos of crashed fuselage pieces on the ground in Ukraine seemed to be of the MH370 arrangement. Later photos seemed to show the MH17 arrangement. But of course none of this is conclusive.

[@christynorman7288]

​@@deegoodwin4060- what do the letters stand for? Thanks 👍

[@thefisherking78]

59:40 that's actually easy. They're called tailwinds. No comment on the overall scenario.

[@DIBZ111]

So glad you're covering this. Those UFOs subs were crazy when this video was posted there lol

[@MELANIE2571]

Thank you ,glad it's not just me who thinks the official explanation is suss . Brilliant ,informative and at times ,deeply sarcastic , loved it 😂

[@DeskJet1]

I honestly think it could have been a carbon monoxide leak maybe from the heat exchanger. Its not uncommon and recently happen in Europe where a citation (i believe it was a CJ) had an unresponsive crew and it drilled itself into the north sea. Also there are airworthiness directives out against the 777 series like AD 2022-18- 11. While a lot of foreign countries comply with Boeing issued adivsitory bulletins, ADs here in the US are mandatory. There are also be ADs issued for engines separately from airframes (engines, props, and airframes all have separate TCDS) so you could always look into that but if a plane just flies off and then crash its mostly from an unresponsive crew and a carbon monoxide leak is usually the case. The odd radio contact could be the pilots suffering from the initial stages of carbon monoxide poisoning. Also theres thr case of united airlines flight 173 which had a fuel leak and the pilot was too distracted by a landing gear indicating that he flew until he ran out of fuel. Just some examples that might relate

[@princehamza890]

He had practiced the route on a simulator

[@x-ray3443]

@@princehamza890he left out the fact that those were just data points that they connected but they couldn’t confirm if they were from the same flight

[@canadiangoose7665]

One thing I disagree with you about is how you instantly rule out the pilot taking over and committing murder/suicide. Just because people he works with say he is happy and normal doesn’t mean he is, a lot can go in inside someone’s head without any physical signs and co workers/family aren’t always going to be able to tell

[@moosesnWoop]

I agree, but consider that the passengers have ~18 mins of oxygen and the co-pilot a little more with a portable oxygen mask. IF it was a sucide attempt, the captain would have to deal with 18 mins of people pleading for their lives and dying. that sort of mental fortitude is insane to consider.

[@TheSpaceHamster]

Glad to see more real world mystery stuff, despite how sad/tragic this incident is. It should be told/recounted. Well made.

[@agdoren]

While the report sounds sus' I can't imagine all of these governments cooperating rather than burning each other at the first opportunity.

[@jaynestrange]

Yeah, a common thread in aircraft incident investigations is everyone trying to throw everyone else under the bus as hard as possible. I think that if there was any hard evidence all the involved groups would be coming out trying to spin it as someone else's fault.

[@aplz51]

That ATC conversation between HCM and KL is just a normal conversation in bad English by two non-native speakers who habitually misunderstand each other. IGARI is essentially the same coordinates as BITOD. IGARI and BITOD are both "transfer-of-control' waypoints between Malaysian and Vietnamese airspace. One side expected to track a flight out to one point and the other expected to track a flight in from the other. Their language is a product of their expectations and their perception. Once Vietnam confirms to Malaysia that they have no contact, Malaysia 'hopes' that it strayed or emergency landed into one of the two/three neighboring sets of sovereign airspace. The "satellite photo" lady sees something that I certainly can't. When I watched the Netflix interviews, I thought she was crazy and just wanted to be involved in the drama. Is it possible Inmarsat is the satellite communications carrier for RR and the engine manufacturer itself just didn't want their company involved because of the bad news, or the engines possibly being blamed? Idk what happened, personally, that is just my interpretation. I do think it's weird that it took so long for Malaysia to come out with the primary radar tracking and that they did nothing to respond. They are hardly overflowing with interceptor jets though, and I can see them not having the capacity to scramble jets and then not wanting to admit their impotence.

[@blue_eyedfloozy]

Hi Aidan, I’m curious if you saw Green Dot Aviation’s video on this subject, where he frames Zahari as the only possible suspect? I thought he had some information you might not have been able to find and overall the video was very well made, but I didn’t like that he didn’t go over the fact that neither the pilot nor copilot had any serious reasons to do this deliberately. I appreciated that you had some more nuance than he did about the captain and his possible motivations

[@avostorm8111]

I just saw that video and am re-watching it now. I will say, it is a lot better than this video in terms of actual explanations without the "out there" theories. I truly do believe now, that the captain did it. All of the known evidence points to it being him and we cannot decide on a persons mental state or motive. Most suicides aren't a planned thing at all and the person just does it, they just need that trigger. Who knows what happened at that time.

[@Nylon_riot]

​@@avostorm8111This isn't true. Many can be planned for quite some time. In fact someone will change behavior, seem at peace, and put their affairs in order before suicide. people commit suicide when their problems exceed their coping mechanisms. The ones that spontaneously comit suicide could be a result of mental illness such as bipolar disorder during a manic episode ( not depressive like people think) because their brain takes off the filters and inhibitions. I know of a bipolar husband who committed suicide by shotgun in front of his wife because he was angry and wanted to get her back from having an argument over buying a gallon of milk. Or the person is in turmoil over heartbreak. The difference is in why the people are committing suicide in the first place. If it is over money or illness, it tends to be more planned.

[@MeanBeanComedy]

Hey, as far as Chinese goes, there are a few consonants with a two versions each, and an easy way to think about the difference between them is where you put your tongue. I've been told I'm "explaining it wrong," but it still sounds right, so here goes: Sh: "Shhh" sound with your tongue folded back a bit. X: "Shhh" sound with your tongue pushed forward. Zh: "J" sound with tongue folded back. J: "J" sound with tongue pushed forward. Ch: "Ch" sound with tongue folded back. Q: "Ch" sound with tongue pushed forward L: Same. D: Unaspirated, usually. B: Unaspirated. Z: "Tz" sound, but unaspirated S: "S" sound, but tongue on lower teeth. R: Is really tough, but is a bit like a 'Z' with your tongue pulled back. You'll have to hear that one to get it. The rest are pretty similar. Vowels are all close to the same, but there is one "Umlaut" os sorts: Ü, which is similar to German 'Ü.' And that's all I know! I'm barely HSK 1, so hopefully it's all correct.

[@Kavilion]

That’s really interesting!

[@nathanielpoe2545]

Usually a pilot will call out their altitude to air traffic controllers when swapped between two different controlling agencies. If this was on the same frequency and with the same controller than it is unusual. Certified Flight Instructor - Instrument

[@Gavriloprincep]

Dude, i read a long story about how the captain had a flight simulator in his house with the exact flight path that he took when the flight went missing. He was also getting divorced and was depressed. Im not sure if youll cover this, but i read it a couple years ago.

[@mjriemen]

That simulator information was big news at the time. I hope it is covered in part two

[@gwenjackson8583]

That flight simulator thing was brought up in this video but there wasn’t really any commentary about it.

[@Gavriloprincep]

@gwenjackson8583 yeah it's pretty much the only way planes go down now unless they come from places where maintenance is a suggestion and or they forgot to fuel the plane etc. But almost all of the major loss of life incidents the last 10 years are cases where the pilot says eff it and decides to take hundreds of people with them when they go. It's messed up, but they don't really talk about it for obvious reasons.

[@anxietyy3263]

​@scottlangley5596 I mean pilot suicide isn't rare, we've had a few over the past decades...I mean our most recent case of pilot suicide was on March 21st 2022 via China Eastern Airlines Flight 5735

[@anxietyy3263]

​@@gwenjackson8583I replied to a few people with a very long comment going into detail about the flight simulator & the simulator data.

[@justendtime7248]

Interesting take. Always wondered about this situation.

[@SalemSphynx]

GREAT job w/this tragically bizarre "disappearance"! And couldn't agree more about not/never trusting info. from 3 letter orgs.. Props to you for acknowledging that!👍👍👍

[@occamsrazor1285]

22:36 It's actually not weird at all. The NTSB (the National Transportation Safety Board, and American organization under the Federal Department of Transportation) has de facto jurisdiction over the world wide air space. Technically they only have jurisdiction over US airspace, but just like how the FAA requires that English be the spoken language in the air (which is why these pilots and the ATC in Malaysia and Vietnam were speaking English), the FAA also gives the NTSB jurisdiction. Technically the political justification for this (I believe) is that in crashes involving aircraft produced by an American company (Boeing and McDonnell Douglass), their job is to determine the cause of the loss of the aircraft independently (so the manufacturer can't cover up its mistakes. Which is exactly why the board was created in the first place). I don't believe the NTSB gets involved in incidents involving Airbus or Antonov aircraft, but it's possible.

[@grayhatjen5924]

@TheLoreLodge @occamsrazor1285 To half piggyback on what you said occams, as per the requirements of the ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) officially all comms are conducted in either English or the language spoken on the ground. The rule of thumb is to use the language of the region. BUT, if English is requested, it must be used. Most of this stuff goes back to 1919 or Chicago or one of the Geneva Conventions etc etc. Ultimately, it's to keep crap from getting confusing. But being fluent in another language is no easy feat. Anyone that thinks otherwise, shove them into an emergency, and ask them to speak a language they weren't raised with. Re US national agencies: a small contingent from the NTSB, the FAA, and Boeing left for Kuala Lumpur on Saturday (the same day the plane was declared missing) with plans to be on the ground on Monday (10 Mar). Regarding FBI and DHS, agents aren't sent unless they are requested. Protocol in general dictates that each of our agencies say, "Yo, we're here if you need us" and then you wait. One of the biggest problems was nobody knew whose jurisdiction it was yet. It was very much like watching a ball get fumbled, quite literally. Hell, even thinking back right now, and my stomach went flipping all over the place. Anyway, thought I'd clarify that stuff.

[@sarahbowman7566]

International airspace, just like international waters, IS NOT the USA's to patrol or lay claim to. The child nations leaders need to be told to sit down and shut up as they never behave well (this is my valiant attempt to be rather polite a country of lovely folk being led by murderous, thieving, lying war-mongers.

[@jaynestrange]

It does make sense - if it turned out that the plane crash was due to Boeing fucking up it would be the job of the US authorities to deal with them. I'm pretty sure this has actually happened in other incidents, where a defect has led to an accident & the manufacturer was held accountable in some way.

[@occamsrazor1285]

@@jaynestrange Yeah, the 777

[@yvonnehickmott720]

Thanks for looking into this mystery. In part 2 please include the crew oxygen bottle rupture scenario ….this failure has the potential to produce all the failures that seemed to have occurred, namely-loss of L transponder, loss of satcom, loss of COMMS, loss of autopilot and then a decompression that incapacitates the crew. The aircraft then just meanders on to fuel exhaustion. It fits all the known data without all the conspiracy theories!

[@shadowsmoonlight]

Interesting, what will cause an oxygen bottle rupture?

[@ernestdempsey9441]

Enjoying the video so far but one suggestion for your future videos - when you read out the transcripts (Kuala Lampur says.. Ho Chi Min says...) it'll be really helpful if you put those lines on the screen side by side (one side showing Malaysian correspondence, the other Vietnamese side) as in teleprompter instead of showing stock video footage (like the comm center in this video).