Are DUAL-MOTOR E-bikes FAST?? ...LET'S FIND OUT!!!

[@Mr.D.Michael]

I got this MG740 Plus and its bloody fantastic - Great content Andy! By the way the Tyres are awesome, so plush and solid, im topping 700 miles and still no punctures as they only run at 20 PSI. The are not a gimmick. This bike is TOP for the dough, its also in eBay for about £1400. Whats more, Cops leave you alone

[@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357]

Just bought a similar bike for 1200 quid. Hopefully you’re correct about the tyres although I will be using a trusted inner tube sealant just to make sure.

[@Mr.D.Michael]

@ramborambokitchenkitchen6357 I've now clocked 1740 Miles, mine are 26 X 4. No real sign of wear at all, and also Zero flats because they're only 19 PSI. Bliss

[@SeemsLegal]

Wonder what having 3 motors would be like, 2 hubs and 1 mid drive. Have them all geared differently as well, one motor for high acceleration low top speed, one for high top speed low acceleration, and one a mix of both.

[@BaldBloke]

Heavy AF most likely 🤣

[@tharushapeiris6772]

​@thecouchtripper let's make it into a hybrid and add a couple of engines too ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@leeknight9957]

With a paramotor fan on your back C:

[@LAMB-CHOPPY-CHOPPY]

Death lol

[@carlislebandit]

Fuck that put a spinnaker on it, chump😅

[@dereksmith2152]

I’ve just had the 740plus delivered and i can say it’s the dogs bollocks. I’m a 19 stone man in my 50s and most ebikes unless they are fitted with duel motors won’t be getting you up most hills. But having duel motors is a game changer. Love this bike and the price is good for what you are getting. £1600 delivered to your door. Best ebike I’ve owned, 100% satisfaction.

[@carlwelstead5622]

where did you buy yours from Derek?

[@frostedlambs]

get a motorbike, a 19st man looks silly on a tiny little kids bike

[@lukejenkins9341]

​@carlwelstead5622 the link is in bio its page 2

[@lukejenkins9341]

Isit 2000wats 2 1000 or 2 500

[@Neilukuk]

@@frostedlambs Who cares what people think? I live my life based on what people like you think.

[@ebikeoutdoors]

Man you get sent some buzzing stuff great video hope you're proud of yourself because you have made a great channel nice one man 👍

[@DudeStuff]

Thank you so much 🙏

[@RidingDirtyAdventures]

awesome stuff... been trying to get my ebike channel running but sadly COVID and a few health issues slowed it down the last couple years but channels like you are keeping the fire burning in me...

[@aaronpaulhughes]

I bought this bike because of your video!! I'm loving it!! Thanks for the head to head comparison!

[@DudeStuff]

You're welcome 😊

[@pactimnoob1131]

how is the battery?

[@shredder1uk]

This is the one I have been waiting for. Been looking a this bike for a while

[@papablueshirt]

I love my Philodo AWD. I had it for months before I realized AWD only works with the throttle, cruise, and walk function. It does not engage in pas alone. But it is not really needed then, as I can get almost 35 mph with just the one motor and the battery lasts longer. I am racking up the miles, this old man loves his ebike that makes me feel 16 again😀 I also know that if my rear motor burns out on the trail, I should be able to get home on the front. I love this bike.

[@slimdunkin117]

It’s gonna be way more torquer, but the top speed will be roughly the same (it’ll just take longer to get to the top speed)..and battery drain is quicker.

[@7rox1990]

For the poor buggers who found their MG 740 plus came restricted: press and hold the + & - buttons. The P menu will show on the screen. Then use the + /- button to scroll up/down to P03. Once there press the "i" button and a number below will flash. Use the +/- buttons to take it up to Maximum number (u will also use the P menu to switch between KMh /Mph). Once you have it at the highest number. Press the "i" button and then press and hold the "i" button. Congratulations- this bike will now go 49KMh/30Mph. Better to use both motors on flats and commutes for better power/weight ratio and will ensure 1 motor isn't doing all the work meaning less stress on 1 motor over time. You will also get to speeds a lot quicker. This feature is also really good as an anti-theft tool. After each use, I drop the P03 to 1 before I turn the bike off. If someone manages to break the lock- they won't be going anywhere quick at 1 kmh/1mph.. the P menu also allows you to turn on password mode, meaning anytime the bike is switched on, a 4 digit pin code will be required (and you can set and change this code as many times as you like). The bike is a heavy beast but she takes the roads very well. I've gone from punctures and new tyres every other week to no punctures for a year. The tyres have also stood yo very well in 12 months. I only had to change 1 tube but that was my fault because I wasn't looking when I fed the chain through the spokes when locking up and I pulled on and tore the valve. Even changing the tube was really simple (the joys of KZbin tutorials). It's a really good design, the front and back controllers are housed inside the frame and that can be accessed (if necessary) by unscrewing the battery baseplate on the frame and underneath the baseplate you will find 2 compact controllers with easy connectors. The wires lead out on both ends and are nice tucked with zip ties. Some people don't like look and prefer everything tucked away- but this is better, it's accessible and adjustable without needing to remove the battery base plate every time and it is actually a good look on this bike. I switched out the pedals straight away but that was due to personal preference and I still have the originals as they are very good quality spares. For the speed freaks- don't be disappointed that you can't go 100KMh/ 63 Mph. There is really no need. It's still a bike and as good as the brakes are to stop a 48kg twin motor 2000w ebike going 49KMh/30Mph- I.wouldn't trust them as much with higher speeds. The battery life is what it is- depending on how you're riding. I suggest charging the battery after each use so it's always on full and your charge time is smaller (who wants to wait 5-6 hours?) Safety first, never leave an e-bike / e scooter battery on charge and unattended and never use different chargers. I bought this bike from great seller on e-bay and they had manufactured a precise panier rack for this large framed bike with 26×4 inch wheels. You need the panniers to transport heavy duty locks and some tools. The bike can really carry a lot of weight. I weigh around 100kg, the bike with the battery is around 50kg, I've added the pannier rack and bags and I often carry 20-30kg in additional weight and the bike handles it very well. The downside is the size- u need to have somewhere spacious and safe to store it. You can just free cycle it but I really don't recommend it due to the weight. When out and about- it's a real head Turner. I'm very picky about where I leave it locked up and I'm always looking at better locks etc to better deter. The size and weight takes a little getting use to, particularly if you are someone quite small. If you think you won't be able to manoeuvre a 50kg bike around or you don't have the safe place to store it when you are home, don't buy it- but as for the rest of you- you won't regret it. 👍

[@harrisonlewis3389]

Nice explanation this. Have you been using it in the rain? I heard it’s not recommended? Cheers.

[@johngriffin824]

very interesting, keep them coming

[@garyhanley3477]

Great review. Im 6ft 2 and 110 kilos. You have just helped me with my decision. 🙏

[@2KHunter]

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[@p60ngo]

Great vidoes and on the strength of your knowledge and this video I am buying a MG740 this week :)

[@DudeStuff]

Appreciate that 💯 using the links in the video airways helps support the channel too 👍

[@kingliam4340]

But are ya better off having a 2000w motor or a dual 1000w

[@paulbritton9207]

Haha, love the fun factor! Great content and good old down to earth reviews. So that’s the 2x 1000 watt motor fat bike covered……..what if a Kobebike 2000w motor was on the rear 🥳

[@StevenHaggis]

I bought one last night. Can't wait to get it. Cheers for the review.

[@jimmyallen9927]

Im thinking doing the same just a bit worried on mileage out of a 20amh battery with dual motors mate 🤔

[@StevenHaggis]

@@jimmyallen9927 I'll let you know!!

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

​@@jimmyallen9927 it's not gonna go that far if you are hammering the throttle constantly with both motors on and doing top speed.

[@jimmyallen9927]

@Jude Price thats true i usually ride all my ebikes by pedaling very rarely use throttle myself mate

[@jimmyallen9927]

My 1000 watt mid bafang i built on a specialized frame eats my 17.5 amh battery if on highest setting or throttle lucky if get 15 miles out of it when do lol

[@JohnQuilyQuinlan]

thank you, very informative, just subbed

[@BigDuke6ixx]

Where were you doing the testing? Looks like an amazing place.

[@agentolshki4265]

I remember going to a bike show in Lemington spa in the noughties, 2004 or something i think. There was a cristini 2wd pedal bike with a fairly complicated system to transfer power to the front with a prop shaft that ran uo the top tube and eventually to the front wheel. Even if i had the spare 3 grand i think it was priced at i wouldn't have gone for it but i must say i feel slightly left out by the range i could do on an ev but i still love my 2013 canyon nerve xc. Serving me well.

[@gavindavies2861]

Hay mate I'm looking at buying somthing like this? Can I put a bigger more powerful battery on it? Make it 72v will the rest of the electrics take it?,

[@JohnDoe69]

I just order my but only thing what i am thinking was in the manual "do not use in rain"

[@neilbradshaw8008]

Nice review but is it legal in the UK?

[@davesskillet9235]

all it needs now is a mid-drive for three motors to go insane.

[@srspower]

I think if you compared that with 2 x 1000 watt vs a bike with a single 2000 watt it would be a fairer test and I think the single motor would actually win due to less weight. What would be interesting through would to see it's offroad credentials.

[@DudeStuff]

I don't think it's that simple just weight isn't the only factor. I think spreading the initial load might even make this bike a bit quicker if the line than a 2000w it felt quicker

[@srspower]

@@DudeStuff It would be interesting to see, the dual motor certainly seems to be the choice for EV manufacturers.

[@MrCsebike]

The top speed of 2 1000wat motors is the same as 1 1000 watt motor but with two motors the torque multiplies so it reaches the top speed faster so a single 2000 watt motor is faster.

[@mr.monitor.]

​​@@MrCsebike..the 2000w should be better in every way

[@MrCsebike]

@@mr.monitor. If you stay with 48 volts the 1000 watt x 2 will have more torque and the seed gain for the 2000 watt will be less than 10 mph.

[@1thaleb]

Great bike and fantastic review........... no helmet? Hmmmmmm - i hope you never have MY accidents (14 weeks in hospital).

[@Operation-InnerGravity]

Need a 2024 version! Check out the Excalibur Hunter from Neutronic Ebike.

[@MrDannyZ123]

Dude this guy went full simple Jack

[@panicpostproduction]

Thanks for your great reviews. I was new to the ebike thing and you helped a lot with all your videos. I liked this review so much I bought this exact bike and then threw another 800 Euro in upgrades onto it.. Deore gears, 10 speed 11-36 screw on hub, a 53 tooth front ring, 203mm brakes, downhill forks, juggernaut pro tyres a few carbon bits... got about 3 to 4kg off the weight. loving it!! Its a beast of a thing.. now I just need to save up for a second battery, perhaps a 52V (if it will work with this bike? Do you know? any ideas?) Thanks again for taking the time to explain everything so well. You are an inspiration!! Keep up the good work.

[@glixhes4517]

Thing sounds insane holy shi

[@hatakekakashi513]

52v doesnt work here my guy. the controller n battery is rated at 48. u will probably have thermal issues. but at 48v its still great. the torque is enouph, 52v would give u 3-4 extra mph, i dont thing it really needs them ;)

[@panicpostproduction]

@@hatakekakashi513 THanks for the info! I have not changed anything since...still lovin it!! Great bike. Thanks for the reply. appreciated.

[@Obnoxious_Dad]

Appreciate the video, but you look small on your Bike lol. Respect 💪🏾🇺🇲

[@MrTimmmers]

A 60v battery fit on it you think?

[@TracyPace-h4h]

Hi buddy .love the videos. I have a hyuhome ladys 26 electric bike .I've changed settings in screen and it's no faster can you help me geez

[@LookintomyBarrel]

Picked one up for £550.... cant be bad, have the RV700 too...

[@kudosiafirstbutyoutubestoleit]

i mean dual motors are better but its not a fair test using the same bike, the 1000w is shared between the two motors as opposed to one and in 1 wheel mode is has the extra weight and friction of the dead wheel

[@hatakekakashi513]

still saving money few months after i saw ur review. i m between mg740 and x3000 max. cant figure what to choose

[@starseed1352]

Excellent Review Thank You

[@larryl1427]

Nice video and assessment. Thanks.

[@martinmorgan8475]

Hello. Looking a bit of advice, what do you think between the lankeleisi mg740 plus and the keteles k800 2000w duel motor thanks

[@MotoAlias]

Youve come a long way from when i fismrst seen you building that fast electric litbike woth andy kirby. I was building one at the same time.

[@Bernhard_Schmidt]

Aren't you doubling the watts with dual motor though. Obviously 2000w is faster that 1000w

[@DeiagonismSr]

Hows he filming? 😮

[@jedimastermegellstreet8177]

Shengmilo s600 dual 1000w motor unlocked top speed 55mph in UK .

[@jacksonoaj]

How much ?

[@martinmorgan8475]

Hello nice videos, looking some advice, im new to electric bikes, thinking about getting one, i was looking at the lankeleisi 740 plus 2000w duel motor and the gogobest gf 700 1000 w duel motor, i would be about 150 kilos, i would prefer mud guards and a back rack and lights , not sure if i need the bigger bike , the gogobest seems to be powerful enough from what i can see. Thanks

[@darkwinter-lll]

Is the bike heavy with the battery can you still peddle it like a normal bike?

[@DudeStuff]

Yeah of course you can

[@TheLawrencestewart25]

Are the controllers build in to the motors?

[@goyourownway5566]

triple motor next. Front, mid, and rear baby!!

[@cognac8297]

Imagine sitting at picnic table being passed by a biker at around 40 mph.

[@d.m_7779]

Max speed ? In kmh how much

[@darylhast2950]

Can anyone help me please. After watching this great review, i went ahead and purchased this beauty of a bike. I literally got it a few hours ago today and just went to put it on to charge, but the charger/power unit, which connects to the battery, is showing a constant green light which sould indicate thst the battery is fully charged, which i can assure you that it isnt after the fun ive been having on it today. Apparently, the light should be red and then turn green after being fully charged. Has anyone got any suggestions or any advice for someone which is new to this game. Thank you all.

[@whisperingblues9887]

Fantastic chanel Some great builds I am going to upgrade my 1000 watt single motor rear wheel for a double motor set up it will add so much more torque at a relatively cheap price.

[@leondeon4684]

How

[@Hybrid600]

How would it compare to a BBSHD bike with at least a 1:1 gear ratio, up very steep hills?

[@helgy1972]

So iam undecided between this mg740 and the rv700. I seen your reviews on both, great reviews. Which bike do you think is better between the 2? Iam a bigger guy, 6ft and 250lb.

[@simonmartin5284]

Hi I'm about the same stature as you the dual motor is a tempting prospect but ive a feeling the rv 700 battery would last a fare bit longer. I just ordered rv 700. I'll report back bro.😎👌

[@jimmyallen9927]

The mg 740 is a beast had mine abount 6 weeks pulls like a train done abount 500 miles so far on it i was thinking it would go faster than the 30mph though i get out of it but a fun ride with loads of torque

[@lee-tx5mw]

been planning on building a dual 1500 watt bike for lugging fishing kit up steep inclines .after owning a kugoo g booster and realising the potential but it will have 2 batterys like the kugoo but 52 v

[@treasuretraveler3613]

That’s what I built & its powered by 2 52V 20 amp batteries. I have bad knees and it’s hard for me to pedal but now no matter how steep the hill I can power up it and the range is phenomenal!

[@lee-tx5mw]

@Treasure Traveler nice big fat tyres for the sand too 2wd has to be better for carrying heavy loads

[@LookintomyBarrel]

Thanks... who needs full suspension when you got a seat like that.....

[@Funcentric]

Single motor test is still hauling the weight of both motors though. It would perform a lot better as single motor without the weight of the unused motor.

[@DUB-sential]

Bedwetters are knocking one out at the title

[@BubbaSatori]

Thanks!

[@utubeape]

great test. If you build one can you test pulling a trailer up a hill? This is raely seen but would be required for people to haul shopping or children

[@Tec2Nut]

That is impressive. Some duel have to much going on that a clean bike

[@DigBipper188]

I have a ~5kW dual motor bike I built myself. it's an absolute hoot to ride. Climbs stairs like they're not even there, hills are but a minor inconvenience, and with phase weakening enabled it is absolutely stupid downhill!! I've had it past 60 once with a slight tailwind. It gets to about 57 without*... And It's probably the single sketchiest things I've done so far bar none!! The only thing it really doesn't do all that well with is snow and ice. FWD does a far better job at keeping you upright, RWD is fun for keeping the tail sideways, and AWD is absolutely marvellous for keeping the entire thing sideways... at a 90* angle. * Should note that that speed was not performed on-road. It was performed on disused road space where no traffic comes through because fuck trying that shit on a main road near me!!

[@jamescorrigan2777]

What type of motors are you using?

[@DigBipper188]

@@jamescorrigan2777 a pair of those voilamart 1500w DD hub motors They can take a fair amount more power than they're rated for as long as you're not running silly amounts of current, so far I'm doing 2.5kW per wheel and they don't even really build up any noticeable heat when being run... even after a steep.hill they remain only slightly warm to the touch!!

[@johnwalker3948]

How do you fit these duel motors?do they run off the same battery? have you made one? thanks

[@jimmyallen9927]

Can you switch between dual motors and single when you want or did you disconnect one any info great guys cheers

[@DudeStuff]

You can hold down + on the control buttons and it has 3 modes front single, rear single, dual

[@jimmyallen9927]

@Dude Stuff ohh fantastic cheers for the reply ive got a few hills 25 % gradient that would eat them 😀

[@jimmyallen9927]

​@Dude Stuff hi mate have you got video of how to unrestrict is it like other lankeleisi bikes hold - and + any info greatly received

[@markpaul1154]

Does anything in legislation say how many motors you are allowed ?

[@mozzjones6943]

No. As long they don't go over nominal 250w and limited to 25kph lol Which is funny when you have dual motors...

[@robertmason7553]

Dude belongs in the UFC

[@uzairchowdhry4044]

why the 1000w motors so small

[@daz7171]

My shengmilo mx03 fatbike will do 36mph on a single 1000w motor and im 14 stone

[@Chefchen21]

nice,but how are the two Controller connected to ONE Display?can you made a video about this,please? thx

[@ptb2023]

Hi pal im after an ebike to comute to wrk an back prob roughly 8 mile per day i need 1 with a back bracket so i can put stuff im my carry pack N nip out of wrk if i need msterials etc what would you revomnend ti be onest iv been looking at the himmiway zebra but i do like this 1

[@chargeriderepeat7024]

I run one of those motors at 2200w, its fine 90% of the time, but long really steep hills will cook the phase wires. Twin motors should solve that, but ultimately midrive for the stupid steep stuff

[@MotoAlias]

Sounds like they need to use larger phase wires

[@ivan-j4l9x]

Is there a way to have two throttles ie a throttle for each motor?

[@jamescorrigan2777]

I have a BBSHD mid drive with a 1000 watt front hub. 2x 17.5 amp 52 volt batteries It’s a huge improvement.

[@Hybrid600]

I've always been curious as to whether or not it would be worth it to add a front hub motor to a BBSHD bike. What kind of bike is it and what type of riding do you do? Do you have front suspension too? Would be cool to use the front motor when the back tire is losing traction but just wondering if the weight penalty would be worth it for strictly offroad singletrack use.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

That's the set up I want for my Ariel Rider Kepler 👍😎

[@jont39]

Just subscribed fella

[@billgordon7240]

They don't have this bike on BBG??

[@castareablast]

Did you end up keeping this one? Ive just ordered one

[@jordyboi3703]

are you upgrading the quad mate?? Excited too see what you do too that if you do

[@RunfisherRS]

Just use a front and rear hub motor and a mid drive. While you are at it you could add a friction drive on the front and rear and add one of those old school brushed motors with a chain on the left. Will be faster then Usain Bolt at the quarter mile.

[@johnhm70]

Agreed. No helmet or gloves! Utter stupidity. As a so called influencer, you should be setting an example to your viewers.

[@-Old-School-Gamer]

Do you know when, or even if, this model is going to be available for purchase, because I can’t find it anywhere on their site only the RV700 model, with the single 1000W motor from your previous video.

[@jakebarnes3054]

I hear front hubs can cause a loss of traction control and a rear hub + mid drive setup works better.

[@utubeape]

I think if the battery was mounted to the front somehow or maybe paniers, any kind of weight would push the front tyre down to give it more grip

[@phililpb]

In restricted mode and with the throtle disabled is this leagal.

[@simonjassim4654]

Great review which i had tge funds for a bike like that Im not sure what e bike to Get i want to commute 16-20 miles a day 8-10 miles each way. But on a budget What would you recommend?? Im 95kg 6,3 Not sure that matters

[@financiallyfree]

3000w 72v rear motor kit or this dual set up?

[@nikogrimaldi7495]

How’s the acceleration on flat pavement?

[@paulmacdonald8771]

I’m thinking of buying cyrusher ranger, but do u think if u removed wheels from this bike & place on the ranger it would would work ? Could the ranger be dual motor & what would performance look like ?

[@JerseyStyle7]

Very sharp bike👍🏽⚡️👍🏽⚡️

[@tylertalks1195]

What was the top speed you got up too

[@Thefakisgoinon]

I've not noticed one bike you've made with a mid drive motor. Whats the reason for that?

[@SeanDuncan-bv5rj]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/npu7Xneqm7ZrfZY

[@TheAgentAssassin]

I was wondering the same thing. My guess he doesn't live in the mountains. I've tried to like hub motors but everyone I've tried can't get up the hills where I live unless you're running super high wattage and/or standing on the pedals. A 750 watt/1280 watt peak bbs02 with the right gearing climbs all the hills around me like a billy goat and it doesn't suck batteries dry after 20 miles. In this video we see a 1000 watt rear hub stall on the hills and it's probably hitting 2000 peak when climbing. With the same or lower wattage a comparable mid-drive will just climb way better because of the right gearing.

[@Thefakisgoinon]

Yeah I’ve heard that mid drives have much better force transfer

[@BlackCosmos-cg6hw]

It all depends on one's weight!

[@chrisnumnuts8671]

dont forget the front motor when not in use gives some resistance

[@rey_nemaattori]

Hardly, most resistence it gives is the increased rolling resistance due to the added weight.

[@allthenamesaretaken2]

Extra Motors add torque, once they're at Max rpm then that's it, you'll need a gearbox or higher voltage/rpm motors to go faster.

[@DudeStuff]

Unless the bike is lifted off the floor or going down hill the bike is always under load. On a flat road I find 2 motors get higher speed closer to an unloaded motor.

[@milla13fxn]

Steve did enjoy the mortal Kombat ish inserts

[@terrythurston8572]

Hello. I’ve studied your videos fir some time. May I ask your opinion please. One of my e-bikes 36v. This battery will only charge to 40.2. Full. Is that in your view a problem?? Thanks in advance Terry

[@rey_nemaattori]

As far as I know it's always just 4-6 volts over the rated voltage? I have a 52v kit that charges till 58-ish.

[@xpndblhero5170]

So is it 1000w w/ 2 500w motors or 2000w w/ 2 1000w motors¿?

[@richmills6911]

U did mention about height, I'm 6.4 with long legs lol Would u recommend this bike or find something else?

[@maico4902]

Hi iv been watching your channel little while now and it's great Your to the point and no messing that's better than people who waffle on 😂 Any the video on two motors front and rear wheel great to be honest I had thoroughly of the two motor e bike but a carnt afford one Any way what about a 3rd motor ebike with motor where the peddles go through ...not sure what it's called Any keep up the fantastic videos ....

[@nadeemm429]

loving all the recent content mate. if i have a £1500 budget for a gravel ebike/pedelec what do you think is the best route to go down for value and reliability.

[@DudeStuff]

If you can collect in Essex I can do you one for 650

[@PaulBarker-e3z]

I wish I had the money I love the bike love competitions

[@scottdavies3914]

Meelod dm xt 600 dual motor climbs anything…

[@davidchristy843]

any good over at Hadleigh for riding?

[@DudeStuff]

Not really it's just scenic lol

[@convictions831]

Ur a hero my bro