Are Electric Cars Worth It? || The Truth About Electric VS Gas Cars!

Are electric cars worth it? We review the pros and cons of electric cars vs gas cars and hybrid cars in terms of price, maintenance, repairs and environmental impact. Are electric cars better than gas cars? Are electric cars the future? Are electric cars more reliable? Are electric cars safe? If you are buying a new electric car or electric SUV, make sure to watch this review.
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[@fantasticjellyfish9189]

Well, I understand that EV has a substantially less maintenance cost over the years but taking into account the high price tag it pretty much eliminate what you save

[@ElectricOptions]

This was true a few months ago. But now with the reduced prices of EVs, I do not think that this holds anymore. Of course this depends mostly on which state you live in. But in general, model Y and Model 3 (for example) are closing in on price against comparable ICE

[@scottmon23]

You can get a model 3 for 20ish k now

[@lynnkurumaji2478]

One thing you didn't mention would be the installation of a 220v over a 110v home charging station. Here in California we do not have the electrical capacity to support EV cars in the long run and nothing is addressing that situation for the future. We have brown outs now and having more electrical use may cause actual black outs.

[@scottmon23]

Sounds like a california issue not an EV issue. Cali needs to get its sht together

[@tikwingmak]

I agree that cost wise a conventional hybrid makes the most sense right now, especially with Toyota's 150,000 mile warranty on the battery. It's almost a lifetime peace of mind for an average car. So until tech significantly improve and/or price of EV drops...Thanks again for the excellent info and angle.

[@ronaldwinker2197]

Gasoline automobiles can go two hundred thousand miles and more. The electric grid needs to be improved NOT THE CAR Oil is a natural resource and electric power is NOT and NEEDS some other source of energy to PRODUCE IT (like coal, a dam, wind, or OIL). DOG CHASING ITS TAIL!

[@ThePaulw595]

Nissan give a 10 year warranty on their EV cars battery.

[@NormandyFoye]

No, not yet. Hybrids definitely. We’ve had 8-14 day power outages here during winter storms and an EV would be problematic in that situation. The charging stations are too sparse.

[@theshield44]

Which mid-size EV do you recommend?

[@vulpixelful]

When the power's out in my neighborhood, gas stations are out too 🤔

[@rogermartinez78]

I bought a EV and I am saving a bunch of money! I am no longer sending my money to the oil sheiks in the Middle East.

[@francisbeaulieu9591]

Gas pump don't work during outages either and some EV can do VTL (Vehicule to Load) which can be a savior during outages, your car can power essentials, like your fridge.

[@vames1986]

​@@francisbeaulieu9591Then drive to a gas station that works. Very simple lol

[@georgew4629]

Excellent video. My hybrid gas avg is $500/yr and so far maintenance is another $500/yr over the past 5 years. Best thing it was $20,000 less than ev

[@chrisnagel2708]

Exactly. Hybrid is smarter

[@Demobot1]

What do you drive?

[@Ccvikings2009]

@@chrisnagel2708 hey - what’re you doing on a random KZbin video I’m watching?! Haha

[@phil4986]

Yup. the initial cost of a ev is a killer.

[@rodneyjhackenflash4865]

My gasoline burner has had $100 in maintenance over the last 11 years. New battery at Walmart.

[@vikramgadagkar]

Agree with you 100%, I have the same thoughts as well!! Thanks for the awesome episode?! 😊

[@andrewelburton1]

Hi Shari, great video as always! Here's one more factor keeping some out of electric cars: their small size. If you need more than two rows of seating and/or more than about 30 cubic feet of trunk space, there are few options on the market, and those options are very expensive, e.g. the six-seater $157,000 Cdn Tesla Model X (6.5 in the frunk, 33 behind the second row, 15 behind the third row), e.g. the seven-seater $94,000 Cdn Rivian R1S (11 in the frunk, 46.7 cubic feet behind the second row, 18 behind the third row), e.g. the seven-seater $136,000 Cdn Mercedes-Benz EQS (no frunk, 28 cubic feet behind the second row, 7 behind the third row). Maybe Kia's upcoming three-row EV 9 will be more spacious/more of a value offering.

[@carhelpcorner]

The Kia EV9 and Hyundai Ioniq 7 should be the next 3-row electric SUVs hitting the market. Hopefully the pricing is reasonable but I'm guessing they will start around $60k Cdn.

[@afzalshaikh2128]

EV9 will be between 70-80k nothing less. I’m looking at Vinfast vf9 looks like a full size suv but battery leasing seems odd

[@mark-wo2wj]

OIL INDUSWTRY LIES

[@ishan6771]

Also for people who rent and dont have access to a charge port consistently, ev's are automatically out of question and yeah thats a lot of people.

[@TheGreblig]

After seriously considering an electric car I have decided to buy and drive a hybrid for the next 3 to 4 years as by then I expect battery technology and price would have vastly improved.

[@tvtechwonv27]

Why would prices improve. What gets cheaper over the years?

[@albangougeon235]

@@tvtechwonv27 the cost of battery gets actually down with time. We don't know for how long it will drop, for the moment it decrease every year, but not the price of EV, because they just get bigger battey

[@BioniqBob]

@@tvtechwonv27 Batteries!!!

[@richardgodinez8497]

An EV has been a huge convenience. I charge at home. I don’t worry about filling up gas, going for an oil change, transmission oil change, oil leaks, timing chain interval replacements, gaskets failing… etc. I save so much time and money. It makes sense for city life.

[@islandon22]

Excellent Analysis. One of the best I've read. Thank you. With a probable deadline of 2035, we've decided that between the high cost of an electric, the cost of an upgraded home "faster" charging unit, higher insurance costs, fear of not finding a recharge station, I don't see that big of a rush in this family to buy all-electric. Unless this is a local errand unit, I do not see us buying anything gas, or full electric out here in the Mohave Desert, or for our bi-annual 1200mile trips to BC. We want to move forward, but not necessarily JUMP forward.

[@gennyolson2257]

I agree. I will wait. I think the technology will improve. Besides the next president may do away or change the date of 2035..

[@islandon22]

@@gennyolson2257 I'm pretty sure that would be a State issue. I guess once 90% of the states sign on, then Federal Legislation would be introduced. That is, if there still will be a United States anymore.🥺

[@Wolf.88]

Exactly

[@Wolf.88]

@@gennyolson2257 Yes! I believe so. Unfortunately Ford is acting like Biden will be president forever.

[@carhelpcorner]

I think many feel this way. They are open-minded to EVs, but don't mind waiting for the tech to improve further.

[@harryaxe5167]

There are a number of issues that were not covered. 1. Some states in the (United States) will charge EV owners an addition registration fee to cover the gas tax that E.V. owners are not paying. 2. E.V. Used car value that are past their warrantee may find it difficult to find buyers. Some used cars dealerships are refusing to buy these used EV. 3. Tesla owners that live outside California, may find that there are no dealerships in the town or county they live. 4. Newer non-Tesla electric car dealerships may not have the repair crews (mechanics) that know how to service the EV. 5. If you live in a warm climate (Southern California) driving range will be close to claimed range at time of purchase. If you live in the Midwest or northern very cold climate, the EV range could be cut by 50% or more. 250 miles range could drop to 100 miles or so. 6. Keep in mind that E.V.'s are still an Industrial Experiment! Early adoption will be expensive.

[@harryaxe5167]

7. A very important social issue to add here. Battery components like Cobalt, are mined in poor African countries. These mines are very dangerous. Children are often used as employees!!! These moral issues will have to be solved before E.V.'s are truly ethical!

[@brianpetersen3429]

Excellent information. Personally, I would buy a hybrid, mainly due to living in Iowa where the winters can be tough, and public fast charging is very limited. Until then I will continue using my reliable 14 year old Toyota 4Runner.

[@tvtechwonv27]

Reliable Yes but I had a 4 runner years ago and boy does that car love gasoline.

[@ljprep6250]

The newer Teslas have a built-in battery optimizer which heats or chills the battery as needed, automatically. For most people, the home charger route keeps the battery fully charged. If you drive long distances with an EV in sub-freezing weather, it might be an issue, but not for short distance drivers.

[@ronaldwong6092]

i ride a 1987 gas Yamaha QT 50 1987 Moped for 36 years and now ride a 2022 electric Sondors Metacycle 4kwh battery for commuting around town. The moped is still running strong. I like not going to a gas station to buy gas but no one will fix a Metacycle rear flat tire.

[@JoeHartman80]

I’ve been saving up for my next car.. aiming for the ioniq 5, but may settle on a hybrid

[@harryaxe5167]

Hybrid is the best choice. Over time the E.V. will improve. It's just a little early.

[@blakemrolfsensanchez547]

I have IQ5 and it's worth it

[@locuus]

I’m surprised at the costs listed for regular cars. I drive an 8yr old Sonata. Spend about $60/mo on gas and over the lifetime of the vehicle have had 8 oil changes @ $60 each + $660 for tires and around 200 for a brake fluid change. Also a couple of air filters @maybe $15-20 each. That’s less than $7200 over 8 yrs that it has cost me. Granted I drive about half of what the average but still is that is a ridiculously lower number than the ~40000 /10yr in combined costs they listed for an ICE car.

[@moseslee5721]

Only $60 for gas a month? I have the same car and pay like $230 a month…. BC, Canada gas is killing me.

[@francestan70]

Can you talk about pro and cons between hybrid and hybrid plug in. Thanks

[@yvs6663]

hybrids are less expensive. plug ins are more expensive(usually not too far from what a similar fully electric car would cost) but can do a somewhat limited number of miles on electricity from a plug. if u run a plugin on gas alone, it will be less efficent than a normal hybrid. if u run a plugin on electricity alone, it will be less efficent than an electric car. neither require any change in behaviour compared to a gas car when driven long distances. buy a hybrid if u can't charge at home. buy a plug in if u can charge at home but the DC charging infrasturcture isn't sufficent where u r or u drive beyond the cars range regularly or can't get an EV with towing capabilities at the price point. otherwise, go for an EV.

[@Twix_loves_domo]

This is the video i need. Which is better hybrid or plug in hybrid

[@carhelpcorner]

Already have this video! Here you go kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGfQYoCrgtGtnaM

[@sachetupadhya]

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[@kings7man]

hybrid can cost quite a bit more than the petrol counterparts , you also have to take into account that you are only saving on petrol as you still have that petrol motor to service . My wife has a non plug in hybrid , i took it down the drive of my farm yesterday which is about 250m to the road by the timei drove through the front gate , the petrol motor cut in .

[@islanddon865]

If it's for commuting to work every day, and you can afford a car, a charger and a hybrid to leave town in, then its terrific. l'm not considering an EV or an I.C.E., but l'm all in on a regular hybrid.

[@bigdmister]

Since this video is about electric vs ICE I think anyone interested should watch on KZbin “The Contradictions Of Battery Operated Vehicles”, a TEDX lecture and is not very long.

[@DanielHunterUSA]

I drive one hour to work two hours round trip and spend $ 400 a month on gas .

[@daveh893]

Thanks. Great video! I would probably consider buying an EV as a "commuter car" and the price was similar to a gas vehicle. I do wonder about how the old batteries are disposed of and if they can be recycled.

[@katiecannon8186]

They can be recycled/used for other applications

[@harryaxe5167]

You have brought up a very important social issue. Battery components like Cobalt, are mined in poor African countries. These mines are very dangerous. Children are often used as employees!!! These moral issues will have to be solved before E.V.'s are truly ethical!

[@mohammed-pl8zt]

Hybrids is the way to go now , until EV get more range. I'm really interested in toyota lineup of Hybrids and I think I need a transition period before jumping the EV wagon.

[@colinclement2752]

2002 Toyota Tacoma w/ 386k miles and still going strong...when electric cars can compete with that long term reliability... Ill think about it...maybe

[@harryaxe5167]

Most EV builders offer 100,000 mile warrantee. Given the fact that the EV really only has (1) important part, any failure of battery components could be a financial disaster.

[@sanjaykumarsingh1970]

That's fantastic sir. I can tell you ... Nothing to beat that ... With the reliability of Toyota

[@olwalmoses]

Hey, I just wanted to drop by and express my heartfelt gratitude for this incredibly informative video! Your insights and explanations were absolutely spot-on, and I genuinely appreciate the effort you put into creating such valuable content. I was particularly intrigued by the study you mentioned regarding the cost of fuel vs EV electric charging costs. If it's possible, could you kindly provide a link to the study in the video description or as a comment? I'm eager to delve deeper into the subject and explore the research further. Keep up the fantastic work, and thank you once again for sharing your knowledge with us!

[@mark-wo2wj]

AI GENERATED LIES

[@Susan-wy7rk]

Shari, You mention that EVs lose range in cold weather. However, you did not address how living in a desert may affect range or the life of the battery. I live in the Mojave Desert and would appreciate learning how the heat of our summers (and running the air conditioning for three or more months) would impact the range of the vehicle and the life of the battery. Thank you. 🙏

[@babaluto]

Yours is a genuine concern. The battery management systems in use now are much better than the fiasco of the Nissan leaf. There are two major types of temperature control for EVs. One is "passive cooling" like the early Leaf, the other is "active cooling". Some vehicles like the F150 Lightning has three thermal management systems. One for the motors and high power electronics, another for the battery and one for the passengers. The battery system, which is liquid managed can heat or cool the pack as needed, regardless of the outside temp, including when you are charging or warming up the battery before you go to drive it in extreme cold. Yes, you do lose some range in extreme temps, hot or cold. Hope this helps.

[@Susan-wy7rk]

@@babaluto I appreciate your response. Do you know if the intense heat will shorten the life of the battery? Our average temperature in July and August is 105 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s the average, our record high is 115 degrees.

[@babaluto]

@@Susan-wy7rk I used to live in the Mohave, in Wikiup. Super hot. As I explained, yes, the newer EVs have the ability to handle extreme heat just fine. Cheers

[@richscott2483]

Batteries can have a Melt Down (rupture) if they get too hot or Drain - loss of power when it's Cold. That is why a cooling/heat system is set up to regulate operating temperature. The problem is charging time and the convenience of recharging stations across the U.S. and other countries. For now, you could opt to buy a Hybrid but I would presently avoid an EV. Toyota recently decided to not produce EVs.

[@victorradu9645]

AC use would typically decrease the range by about 10%. Battery life should not decrease much from extra heat as long as the battery is liquid cooled. The thing is that you have to do some digging to find out what kind of battery cooling is installed in each EV, as for some reason this information is not advertised. For cooler places I would say a heat pump system would be a must for an EV

[@williamegler8771]

I took the grandchildren to a restaurant that has a charging station within view. We followed a Tesla Model X with Arizona plates into the parking area . We were in Wisconsin. Several EV's were waiting to charge. We ate a leisurely lunch and when we left I noticed the Model X was still waiting to charge.

[@ns123]

I have experienced EV and PHEV, and I 100% agree hybrids make the most sense especially if you live in colder/northern climates, EV range drops by 40% and that in my view is not acceptable.

[@SUB-Entertainment]

For DIY person like me we save more money on ICE car than EV or Hybrid. For both EV and Hybrid you need to pay lot upfront and for hybrid repair is super expensive. For now if you are a DIY like oil change, Transmission oil change break go for ICE. I have two merecedes and one lexus I do all DIY and it cost super cheap to me

[@richardgodinez8497]

I used to do my oil changes and maintenance. Owning an EV still saves me time, money and headaches

[@margaretWestminster]

Thank you very much for such an excellent report. These are the questions I have been thinking of but it isn’t talked about . I’m still thinking of my future compact vehicle 🚗🚘

[@aliabideen]

Right now, electricity prices are sky high in Europe…dam it 😢

[@Bharat005]

Thanks to Time's 2022 man for the year

[@chrismaxny4066]

We just bought a Bolt Premiere Redline Edition because of all the incentives. The two electric cars it came down to were the Bolt and the VW ID.4. The choice was either a base model VW or the fully decked out Bolt. The VW was roomier, had a better suspension, charged faster, had higher ground clearance and glitchy software but didn't get the full NY rebate and ended up $7000 more than the Bolt. The Bolt had so many comfort features but did have an inferior rear suspension, charged slower, lower ground clearance and was smaller but no software issues. Yes we read about the battery fires, which GM seems to have fixed, and is one reason our level 2 charger will be outside and not in the garage, (we would have done this no matter what EV). Had the ID.4 been available in the AWD version for the extra $7000 or even $10,000 we would have purchased it. As it is the Bolt will be fine as a local vehicle and our hybrid for long trips. The Bolt cost us $17,670 out of pocket after incentives and trade in of a 2016 Ford CMAX SEL.

[@guandongmai3832]

I think about buy a electric car, but will not buy one until I get my own house. And I don't mind to wait, because I know electric products always get cheaper later, especial the new technology products.

[@mikeforwarduk]

EV prices in the UK have fallen around 40% in the last year or so (yes, 40%). Just bought a 1 year old 5,000 mile Vauxhall Corsa e that is like new for £14,500 and we are loving it. The torque blows the ICE equivalent out of the water. Our EV tariff with Eon Next gives 1.5p per mile motoring. I've started going out for drives just for the fun of it again!

[@mr_drdave_6265]

11:05 Once the price of replacing the battery is factored in, it could easily surpass the costs of an equivalent ICE vehicle or HEV. Battery technology is improving, but we're not at the "Golden Age" of BEVs quite yet. Good thing batteries have improved warranties. Great video!

[@vulpixelful]

You don't need to replace batteries at the end of warranties. They lose capacitance over time but you wouldn't need to completely replace the battery

[@mr_drdave_6265]

@@vulpixelful Of course not! It’s like replacing a whole engine and/or transmission at the end of the warranty period for an ICE vehicle. However, after the warranty period, should a battery replacement be needed, and factoring in a massive lack of right to repair laws in the US (e.g., Tesla), the average cost to replace a battery for a BEV is 2x more than replacing an engine and sometimes both an engine and transmission for an ICE vehicle.

[@vulpixelful]

@@mr_drdave_6265 It's rare that the average EV driver will need that, though. For folks driving ICE cars that need a new engine replacement (or transmission replacement), what do they do? My ICE vehicle is 10 years old, doesn't need huge repairs yet, and I'm _already_ saving for its replacement... I get what you're saying but you're also pointing things out as if people don't know that their ICE vehicle will _also_ need cash to repair or replace, eventually. EVs never promised to defy the laws of physics.

[@mr_drdave_6265]

@@vulpixelful I think we may be on two separate pages here my dude. I’m neither for or against any method of transportation over the other. Universally, as of right now, lithium ion batteries and their respective replacements cost way more than their counterpart. It’s all I’ve been trying to say. Both instances could be rare, I mean, look at the million mile Toyota Tundra for an ICE example. Point is, to the consumer, the cost to replace the battery pack could be seen as a massive barrier to EV adoption due to the simple fact that to replace a battery for a BEV car, on average, it’s about and sometimes over $20,000 USD in comparison to about half of that for an engine and/or transmission replacement.

[@mr_drdave_6265]

@@vulpixelful I agree with your last point though. If we look at the actual chemistry behind batteries, one would be able to easily tell that batteries (e.g., lithium ion batteries) don’t last forever. In fact, over the course of years or decades with multiple charges, the battery degrades and will get to a point where it’s not longer serviceable without replacement. Cars aren’t meant to last forever, for sure, but when it comes down to long term ownership (which is what I’ve been referring to, if leasing then this whole discussion really doesn’t matter) battery replacement is a massive barrier to mass EV adoption.

[@SummitCoyote]

i have a motorcycle for all of my short range stuff. I only use my car for carrying camping gear or hauling my kayaks over long distances, almost always to rural areas with no charging. I absolutely refuse to stop for more than 5 minutes at a time on a long road trip. the only long stop I do is at my destination. ev's are going to have to start hitting 500 miles of range and come down another 30K on average in price before I would ever consider one

[@mmorissette8687]

Great review as always. As a personal comment, it would help the electric car industry if manufacturers would focus on range rather than on horse power. An electric car with 200 HP can have a longer range than a car with 400 HP. Who needs 400 HP ? A much larger and heavier battery is needed. This is a waist of resources. If you decided to go for an electric car, make sure there is a thermopump to heat the cabin, and that the battery is thermoregulated, especially if you live in a cold climate.

[@caoeason9102]

Have you considered the battery replacement cost at the end of 10 years?

[@mauriciocastro6363]

Other thing to consider is the reselling price after 10 years. I believe the value of a Ionic 5 versus a Corolla Hybrid will be significantly lower, if there is a buyer willing to buy an electric car 10 years old. Probably you will have to pay to scrap the car. I would stick to hybrid until the technology can warranty an electric car will be as reliable and durable as a gas car. I drive a Ionic 5 which is not mine, it's a company car. It's been 7 months and it's a wonderfull car, I already cover 15k mile, and I didn't spend a drop on gas, as th car comes with free charging at Electrify America for 2 years. The average charginging is about 35$ from 30 to 100%, I have to do 112 miles a day.

[@darylwilliams7883]

I'd be keen to read that life cycle analysis that pops up in your video from time to time. Could you include a link?

[@carhelpcorner]

There are a few excellent ones, but the one referenced in the video can be found here: www.fuelsinstitute.org/Research/Reports/Life-Cycle-Analysis-Comparison-Electric-and-Intern

[@darylwilliams7883]

@@carhelpcorner thanks

[@matzofant]

I'm waiting for a realistic EV. There are only big fat SUVs with overrated engines. So long. The option for me is my Toyota Hybrid. Thanks for this video 😊

[@unclej3910]

My daily driver is a 2022 Toyota RAV 4 Hybrid XLE. In June-July I got 44mpg a few times. Mixed 250 mi!e road trips, with some city driving. I live in a cold climate, so my mpg has dropped noticeably, but still beats my last car, a Subaru Crosstrek.

[@ScrappyDoodad]

Here in cali, the Bolt is $27K without incentives and there are a few low $40K EVs available

[@vladseva2327]

With a current cost of gas and given premium to insure ev - hybrid is cheaper. This is true at least where i live in nj.

[@TommyTwoTaints]

It doesn’t seem ev is the way to go for me. Thank you for the information so can make a decision that’s good for me

[@victorradu9645]

If you want to save money or the environment, the answer is NOT a full EV ... YET. However there are many other reasons to buy an EV now, like how much fun you have driving them. Another thing is that an EV can be more expensive to drive per mile if you drive away from home, depending on where on Earth do you live

[@TruthwillPrevail7938]

I drive a Toyota tundra 2004 and I haven't spent near 21 thousand dollars on it in maintenance and repair since March 04, not even on a ten thousand dollar battery...

[@eddieyutub]

You forgot to mention gasoline car like Audi and BMW. Especially Audi leaks oil and then to replace gaskets. It's going to cost you a lot of money. A lot of people who owns Hyundai or drive really hard also burn their piston by grinding them too hard by high pressure driving and that pretty much bye-bye engine and a huge pollution problem. Those cars that have octopus ink coming from the back

[@wilsonng7464]

EV simply way too expensive I'll definite go for hybrid

[@benbraceletspurple9108]

There are 30k electric cars, so you're just incorrect here. Your payment per month including fuel is cheaper.

[@hiphopfolife]

I got a used 2022 Tesla awd long range model 3 for 25k before applying any rebates. When I file taxes I’ll get 7.5k back bringing my cost down to 18k

[@tjhessmon4327]

Deciding to purchase an EV over a Gasoline or Diesel vehicle is nothing more than simple math. Most EVs cost twice as much as their relative gasoline counter part. a conventional gas vehicle can be acquired for $25k and a low end EV for $50k Take the $25k variance and invest it at a simple 5 percent over 7 years, and we discover that the investment has a return rate of over $10k with an end result of $35+k over that 7 years. The expenditure for gasoline over one year for a vehicle that is driven 20k miles per year, would be $2800 to $3100 per year. ....... Gasoline vehicle advantage in financial costs over and EV, simple purchase price variance and energy cost variance based upon nominal and higher gasoline and electrical costs. 1- Gasoline car variance 1 over 7 years = $2,800 gasoline - $500 in EV charging cost = $2300 yr ... Over 7 years = $16,100 in gasoline 2- Gasoline car variance 2 over 7 years = $3,100 gasoline - $600 in EV charging cost = $2500 yr .... Over 7 years = $17,500 in gasoline ..... Offsetting the gasoline expense by the $25k investment growth over 7 years we have 1- $35,000 - $16,100 = $18,900 advantage to the gasoline vehicle owner over the EV purchase 2- $35,000 - $17,500 -= $17,500 advantage to the gasoline vehicle owner over the EV purchase ....... Therefore the gasoline vehicle purchase over time, will always advantage the owner financially, over an EV purchase.

[@titanlacrosse780]

if you live in an apartment i could understand that EV might not yet be ready for you specifically.. however if you have a home or access to a regular socket outside, i dont see how anyone wouldnt want an electric car. I’ve owned everything from Toyota, Subaru, Honda, Chevy, Ford, dodge, etc.. after some thorough research i decided i had to rent one of these teslas on my next vacation to see if EVs were really as bad as people say online and what i saw on tv.. Needless to say, i ordered a tesla model y THE LAST DAY of vacation. This car is like i bought a computer on wheels, feels like when i went from a flip phone to smart phone, film to digital camera.. The range anxiety argument is really only true if you dont have a charger at home or an outlet, because every morning i wake up to a full 240 miles (costs me $53 a month, i only charge it 80% of the way, otherwise it gets around 310 on a full charge). Now getting my wife a mach-e.. i guess what im saying is, yes i understand alot of you on here and that change can be scary and uncertain. I suggest if youre a home owner, go give a tesla a test drive.. you might even surprise yourself. side note: My favorite feature on the tesla is a thing called smart summon. As my wife and I walk out of a store or restaurant and it’s raining, i can have the car pull its self up to us like a personal butler.. the future is happening infront of us

[@johngoard8272]

Well mate you did not mention the cost of insurance, tyre wear, and having to wait for charging spaces and the fact that as I saw in a recent video those points are in many cases not working or are damaged. Frankly the risk of fire is frightening plus the fact that they depreciate so rapidly and the cost of replacing the battery. The cost of producing them and the impact on the environment is also equally frightening. I also have to add that here in Australia there in not the infrastructure to be a viable choice as in places like me those who live in a rural area.

[@andrewbayram765]

I do find it fascinating when looking at these comparisons. EVs are being promoted unendingly while Ice cars are being discouraged and penalised with massive financial tariffs being imposed. Better,,,,,worse,,,, we'll never know in reality as the playing field is not level.

[@kdubspencer3390]

It really depends where you live , if you own a home , your daily commute and new or used EV. I purchased a used bmw i3 for 12K and I commute 42miles a day . So its under $3 a night so that's $780 a year but really less since volta is across the street with free 2hr charging vs my car was $3,380 a year plus oil changes and any other repair in those 3 years so if my battery went bad in 5 years I could use those savings and purchase a new battery and basically have a new car with a 10yr/100k miles warranty.

[@mylesgalos6465]

Not yet on evs

[@GTSBadminton]

Honda Civic 10th and 11th generations are still the best compact cars to buy when it comes to cost to own, fuel efficiency, interior space and aesthetics vs any version and year of the Model 3.

[@tmoethagreat8193]

Finally a non bias video

[@thenorth9462]

It is too early to buy electric car since the infrastructure are not built yet. For me I should wait at least two years

[@louisjalbert9865]

Very informative video! Where can I see the life cycle study shown in your video ? Thank yoi

[@edwardjaime8363]

Thanks for the education of EV I will keep my 1950 Ford truck which I can maintain with a screw driver and wrench

[@benbraceletspurple9108]

1st year cost of buying pretty much any car @200-300 dollars per month, that's about 3,000 per year, plus 2-3000 dollars of gas for your first year. Even buying a car the first year, a 70k electric car is still cheaper, even with 450 dollar payment per month, that's 1500 more in payments, but 500-1500 less for gas, plus on top of that, rebates and tax breaks, and soon, better parking spaces.

[@andreweaves7975]

I think a few things have to be mentioned…… Most of these cars only get sold because the government subsidizes them therefore, it is unlikely they would ever be able to stand on their own because it would be too expensive and it actually may be unconstitutional for the government to do so….Why not subsidize Dodge Ford Chevy or anyone else? Next, and you didn't mention this, is that I often see reports of these cars catching fire, far more frequent than hybrids or gas vehicles. And finally, there is an excellent point to be made that electric vehicles are worse for the environment….After all, where do you think the majority of that electricity comes from.

[@Snerdles]

Absolutely this. I for sure wouldn't have my PHEV without the rebates in my area because it makes zero financial sense without them. Even with them it was a pretty tough sell but I'm a sucker for gadgets and tech toys.

[@ryan6391]

Tesla model 3 is 40k before the 7500 incentive. The new version coming out soon may have increased range and better cold weather battery.

[@drsnooz8112]

I question those maintenance cost figures in your comparison chart. Unless you buy something Italian, I don't see how you spend $21k on maintenance in 10 years. The average person will have driven 120k miles in 10 years. If you change the oil every 5k miles (a relatively short interval), that's 24 oil changes. The dealer will charge you $150 for that. So assume $3600 in oil changes. The car will also require major services at 30k, 60k, 90k and 120k miles. For a basic Toyota, those cost $500, $800, $1700 and $500 respectively. Thus, $3500 in major services. Figure another $1000 in tires and an $800 brake job and you're at $8900 for 10 years of maintenance. Throw in $5000 for surprises, which is a lot (basically what you'd spend to replace an entire engine) and you get $13,900. Mind you, this is for a _scrupulously_ _dealer_-_maintained_ car. Most people are going to opt for Jiffy Lube oil changes, and will skip the major services altogether, so their costs will be quite a bit lower than my estimates. Unless you have a habit of driving into things, I don't see how you spend $21k in maintenance costs for any ICE car.

[@NewYorksFinest1]

Question. I'm interested in purchasing the Kia Sportage plug in hybrid. Is it woerh the $10k extra price tag or am I better off buying the regular hybrid?

[@sanjaykumarsingh1970]

10k extra seems be a lot of money to me ... May not be worth it .... But with plugin hybrids u get tax rebate ... So weigh the consequences accordingly

[@burgitech8643]

The cost of driving is about 20 % less (current cost in Germany): - Petrol engine (VW Golf) consumes 5,3 l/ 100 km, which costs 1,9 € /l -> 100 km cost ~ 10 € - Diesel engine (VW Golf) consumes 4,5 l / 100 km which costs 2,1 €/l -> 100 km cost ~ 9,5 € - Electric motor (VW ID 3) consumes 19,3 kWh / 100 km which costs 0,4 €/kWh -> 100 km cost ~ 7,7 € So if you typically drive 15.000 km a year you'd save about 300 €. Plus, when you are able to charge the car using your own solar plant on the roof, electricity can be produced at about 0,13 € / kWh, so the 100 km would cost only 2,5 €, which will obviously only work in the summer season. The only question is durability. The normal Golf would last at least 25 years with very low mainainance cost (oil change can be easily done by yourself). But would the ID3 battery last that long?? Because if you have to buy a new battery after 10 years, all your savings might be gone in one run,

[@vdoggydogg3922]

Long term the power grid can't take even a 10% increase in ev cars. Power bill will go up considerably if you charge at home.

[@kings7man]

In Australia an electric vehicle costs about double the cost of the ICE equivalent . In my state , the government charges 2.5 per km road tax which does not apply to ICE vehicles . In my situation it would take about 10 years to recoup the initial cost , which is about the time when i changover the vehicle so there is no point .

[@rachaelb5465]

Awesome video. I had considered an EV. But for all the reasons you said think I'll get a hybrid or petrol car and my an EV in 5 years

[@victorli4316]

Great analysis. Don’t forget the environmental impact of disposal of the vehicle. What to do with those batteries? We do not have the technology to efficiently recycle them yet.

[@diyagarcia3335]

How about iif they where to use hydrogen on a hybrid insted of gas like their trying on the big rigs. Hydrogen is much cleaner to the invironment then gasoline..

[@mcopanzan]

What is the cost of fixing hybrids? it's twice as complicated as gas or EV, looks like a catch 22. Maybe a cheep small gas car is a beter option than hybrid overall?

[@rodneyjhackenflash4865]

But, if the EV is 30000 higher than the gas car, where is the overall savings? TOTAL BS.

[@Doc1855]

Because of the pollution it takes to produce the lithium batteries for the EVs, it’s equivalent to driving a gasoline powered vehicle for 90K miles. Furthermore the USA is experiencing a lot of Brown Outs because of our population growth and our electrical grids. 2 years ago Dallas / Fort Worth, TX was without electricity for over 2 weeks. Every EV owner found themselves riding public transportation to get to work, school and to the grocery store. CA is experiencing wide spread brown outs now.

[@BioniqBob]

(home charge) $1.70 per 100 miles, better in the city. ICE is dead to me. Plus some places are free to fast charge, not sure how long they will be free. I have saved over $6,000.00 on fuel so far. Saved $14,000.00 with the incentive. Makes me way ahead of any ICE.

[@carrollfreiberg7473]

What is the comparison in the scraping out of a worn-out ev to gas included environmental concerns

[@matsgardin8332]

We have a hybrid (Lexus) and an EV (Tesla M3). We live in Sweden and have proper winters, but also fossil-free electricity. My wife takes my car, the Tesla, whenever it is available. She want to change the Lexus for an EV - because it is so much better during winter! The heating is very much better than a petrol car. I have owned 14 cars and rented 100, even so, I love my Tesla, nothing I have tried beats it. Range anxiety does not bother me even at long trips on a freezing winter day. If I have to stop and eat every 3 hours I do not see the problem. It’s good for my body. Note that if you cannot charge at home, a hybrid is better. /Mats

[@jdshl8423]

The simple answer is "no". Unless you barely go anywhere. In which case you don't actually need a car. Get a small motorcycle. Otherwise, the larger a car gets, the more unreasonably expensive it gets, especially with electric. I personally think hybrid is still the most efficient. Unless one could simply drive in and swap batteries almost anywhere, I don't see how electric would get very far. See what I did there? There's a good reason why you don't see electric 747s or electric container ships.

[@Solarsystem50]

Hybrids are the right answer at this point in time. After all, they are EVs with their own built-in power generator. Example: in Texas you pollute more with a Tesla than a Hybrid because all the electricity comes from fossil fuels.

[@keith4886]

I do not like the idea of lining up at a charging station waiting to charge my vehicle. And when I do get to charge the thing I am going to be stuck there for a while which to me is totally inconvenient. Until ev's have the ability to charge themselves while driving I'll stay away from them. No charging stations for me.

[@carlnikolov]

For us men who like to tinker and hear the glorious sound of a revving engine. Electric is a no go. Besides I'm not convinced lithium mines are good for the environment and good luck putting out a lithium ion fire

[@shawnbl2048]

In America 🇺🇸 most auto manufacturers no longer qualify for the tax rebate. 😢.

[@kadduroy6964]

Great video! Very informative. All things considered, internal combustion engines will continue to dominate the African continent for a while longer than everywhere else.

[@lucastherexcat]

Electric cars first came out as short range around town vehicles, something to take to work and shopping etc. The first generation EV was really the sweet spot for electric cars. Although the cost was too high then, today their cost would be much lower. Driving it to places that were apx 80 miles or less round trip would most likely 90% or more of most places traveled. Thinking of a EV as a second car, not as a only car, was much more sensible. Charging at night while you sleep would not be a inconvenience, would also be charging when the demand was lower on the grid. The obsession with overbuilding range into the car in an attempt to replace oil fueled cars is what is ruining the EV market. The charging stations are also a negative, a 40 amp dryer plug with a portable charger might get you home if you happen to need it, a simple install behind and gas station and a set fee of $4 . This would be the exception because 99% of charging would be at home. Dependable simple tech.

[@Frank99999]

I also want to mention that EVs will not probably have aftermarket parts for the most of a vehicle. Battery, motors, cooling system, electronics will be bought for the highest price from a dealer (also labor of professional mechanic), otherwise there will be danger of catching a fire etc. When it comes to traditional gas vehicle, in a period of 2-3 years there are plenty of aftermarket parts which could cost 2-4 times less than original. You can do the job yourself by rebuilding the engine with high quality aftermarket parts.

[@carhelpcorner]

There will be an aftermarket eventually. There already is one for hybrids. You can buy excellent third party battery packs that are half the price of the dealer.

[@450rhino1]

$42000 CDN for the Chey VOLT is rediculous. Who can afford an entry level econo car when prices are inflated 69% to start.:(

[@RightAllWays]

If you buy a honda or toyota, gas cars total 10 years cost will be way lower

[@asaphoenix]

If you need only one car, the discussion makes sense. If you need 2 cars, why don’t you buy one gas car, one electric car so that you can compare them . I guarantee you, you won’t regret buying an electric car.

[@chrisnagel2708]

Thank you for mentioning the fact that building EVs and manufacturing of batteries requires significant mining. And that is no less of an environmental impact that fuel emissions

[@wholeNwon]

But recycling seems to be working out.

[@codincoman9019]

@@wholeNwon, really? "seems"? What about facts? Like that the most performant recycling company worlwide is Redwood (managed by an ex-Tesla director), that gets maximum 82% of a specific EV battery recycled? And that far too many countries do not recycle EV batteries? And that the optimistic estimate of recycling worldwide is below 20%? Real data always beat opinions. Plus the recycling is quite expensive and that the recycling cycles are limited... EV's are far more polluting than even ICE cars (starting from the unethical/imoral/polluting mining, then batteries' production, polluting recharging - even the fotovoltaics and eolian are highly polluting as they are very little recyclable, ending with more than 4 out 5 batteries not recycled), far more expensive (even without factoring in the very expensive battery replacement), very dangerous, unreliable, impractical, time-consuming, freedom-limiting and far too CONTROLLable (you pay, but 'your' car can be stopped by others/government for exceeding your social or carbon credit etc.). This is a hoax, like it was the Diesel for city cars decades ago (the same pattern: strongly promoted by "eco"-Marxists, receiving subsidies - a theft from taxpayers' money, because they emitted less CO2 - haha, that is a huge lie, CO2 is part of the life cycle, not a pollutant!). It is already similarly expensive to charge an EV to fueling an ICE car and the (today almost nonexistent) taxes will grow a lot because the weight of EV's is high. Plus the tyres resist less to the huge couple of the electric engines. Plus the subscriptions you have to already make for full EV features etc. "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" WEF (NWO) dixit.

[@a.c.e.7568]

Worth it? EVs are not. The price difference out the door between a base Camry and base Tesla 3 in my market worked out to $20,538. Based on 12,500 miles a year and the price of gas and the efficiency of the Camry, they got to drive their car for free (gas) for 8.55 years till they reached the cost of the Tesla. And in that same time period, the Tesla had to pay for their charging. You don't need a PhD in math to figure that out.

[@bobdrago69657]

I have had an EV for two years and two hybrids: one 2009 and a 2016. The EV is amazing. I charge with a home Level 2 plug. I use it for the majority of my driving within a 200 mile radius. No gas and virtually 0 maintenance. We use our hybrid SUV for long distance, over 300 mile trips. The third hybrid is over 12 years old and it’s there as our “guest” car and “deep urban” car.

[@csjrogerson2377]

Well done mass consumer and user of raw materials. Have you ever wondered that trying to be green by having an EV is completely negated by having 3 cars!!!!! The fact that you feel the need to have another car to compensate for the lack of range in the EV ought to tell the critical thinker something. You are making the bigger picture worse.

[@Aimeeejolee8019]

I can wait. It’s just not that developed yet.

[@RigiLiquid945]

I think it's worth it for a commuting vehicle, but long distance driving, or trailer hauling is a different story in Canada. I think that a PHEV would be perfect for me and my wife for our main vehicle, but as a secondary vehicle, a V6 SUV is something that I need/want for towing, camping, etc. I also believe that government rebate for buying a new EV should change to a rebate for part of the cost of installing a level 2 charger.

[@BioniqBob]

Ontario did (charger) but the Conservatives cut it. Got $14,000 off the car and half off the charger and half off the installation.

[@lockedon8953]

Right now, I wouldn't come close to consider buying an EV. They just aren't worth it, at least yet. I have heard horror stories about reliability problems, charging, and even peoples electric bills. My other concern is, people believe in this clean energy crap so much yet realistically the infrastructure can barely support what is currently available. I just can not justify dropping money on an EV.

[@darrenslawther9075]

Government rebates thats right, so the consumers pays after all because governments has to raise taxes to get the money to offer rebates.

[@TheGman2421]

What about the cost of auto insurance?

[@drrobotnikmeanbeanma]

What electric cars can I take to u-haul to put a hitch on it ? What electric cars provide the most miles on a full charge ? What ev's that a hitch can't be put on to tow stuff ?

[@davemarks7322]

Great vid!

[@andrewmainprice2179]

In cold climates it kills the battery and the mining of lithium by children is not good.

[@denverd513]

Nothing is worth it in day's time including gas and hybrid models. Due to car shortage price for every car is sky rocketed. New Car have long wait and used cars are overpriced. Time to buy Bicycle....

[@YogKicks]

Evs will still need oil.. hence you’ll still have oil leaks eventually… what happens when cold weather drains the batteries? What about the “cost of electricity” when gas vehicles go away? We’ll see the cost of electricity go up as if it was fuel.

[@jonathonhappel]

Hybrids give you the best of both worlds. You get the efficiency in stop and go traveling without the range anxiety of EVs for long commutes..