Are electric vehicles the answer to Australia's rising transport emissions? | Four Corners

Transport makes up about 19 percent of Australia’s overall greenhouse gas emissions. As the world tries to reduce its emissions…. its’s not something we can ignore.
Like it or not… electric vehicles - or EVs - are where the rest of the world is headed. Other countries are going even further - phasing out the sale of petrol and diesel cars to reduce transport emissions.
Australia is streets behind.
Stephanie March investigates for Four Corners.
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[@71Dana]

What a load of BS, I have been trying to buy a full EV car for years. The dealers are the ones with low interest importing EVs.

[@Retinalism]

71Dana you are spot on, for the manufacturers to rely only on Government direction (when Govt can hardly find its own head stuck up its own aspidistra) is a blight on their understanding of a marketplace they’ve done little to explore or covet. As an AEVA member I’ve been involved in too many displays of borrowed EV’s from dealers without attending sales staff, where time and again people like yourself have been left wanting... Even now, while Hyundai is “making hay” with strong “”book to bill”, they can’t get their act into shape to actually satisfy the pent up demand. A recent presentation by one of their “marketers” revealed lack of preparation, understanding and passion for their sales. Seems they only have one guy who’s truly fired up and responsible for their availability in the first place, but he’s spreading himself very thinly, exposing the ineptitude of his less motivated colleagues.....

[@svsdssp3196]

Bill Shorten thinks it takes 10 minutes to fully charge an electric car. The socialist Labor party has no idea what it is doing. If elected their policies will sabotage Australia's economy. More unemployed means more welfare dependents which means more voters for socialist (labor) governments.

[@benbaker405]

I would so have an ev over my clacker ..... Cant afford it new . and used elec cars are still pricy

[@ursodermatt8809]

@Peter Li halfwit

[@RUHappyATM]

@@ursodermatt8809 , LOL, you have to accept Li is correct.

[@justinm2697]

Interesting choices you made for this report, ABC reporter lady..... We need more electric cars....cut to generic US country music ( banjo, really?) and a ute muster. A tight shot of "Aussie pride is not a crime" is clealy no accident. I'm sure you or a producer LOVED finding that there. Painting the people that drive "gas guzzlers" are V8, ute driving bogans. You didn't have to travel that far to make a point though. Any after school pick zone would give you ample footage of soccer mums and dads picking up their kids in "gas guzzlers." But you do you ABC. You're REALLY good at that.

[@camfam52002]

Ute driving bogans need no help with looking dumb and foolish. They've got the act perfected.

[@chulhogan1445]

and start that segment with "Australians love their cars"

[@lifelongbachelor3651]

@@camfam52002 nor do pretentious cafe latte sipping knobs...

[@twilinski1]

Norway - 2012, EV sale 0%. 2019 March EV sale 58% - 7 years and more than 50%. But politicians in Norway take this seriously and band ICE cars from 2025. In Australia, we have 3000 deaths caused by air pollution each year prompt calls for tougher standards.

[@gregdean2012]

Must have other shit in yout air besides plant food (co2

[@jjbbkk90]

Can you please supply the source for the 3000 deaths due to air pollution statistic? I'm genuinly interested. Cheers.

[@w_stanky]

Jesse Kaye “cue crickets” for the statistics.

[@DarcersTech]

Jesse Kaye www.theguardian.com/environment/southern-crossroads/2014/may/28/air-pollution-australia-greg-hunt

[@michaeltelford5529]

19% of emissions are contributed by Transport - of that , 9% are via the general public in the shape of cars mainly. Unless I’ve missed something it would seem logical to regulate in area that would actually be impactful ... if all cars are reliant on the electricity grid then the predominantly coal fired grid will just burn more coal (emissions) ?! Shifting the source of pollution from the exhaust pipe to the coal chimney ! Petrol Cars are ever increasingly becoming more efficient . Imagine a world where petrol driving cars are banned - god forbid the electricity grid is unable to keep up or blown up or attacked - literally the world stops... centralising all of societies reliance on only one grid is surely poor governance. We can make all these comfortable decisions and ‘hard’ decisions with ease when we have the luxurious lifestyle and reliability the combustion engine has afforded humanity to become the disillusioned snow flakes this tear everything down and try make it better community i have increasingly realised I live in.

[@robfrancis5332]

First 5 seconds, "transport makes up 19% of all Australias emissions." Logic tells me there is another 81% that is not transport. Is 19% a majority stake in emissions? I doubt it. Surely focus should be put on the majority stake holder of emissions.

[@totalrecall8385]

The other 81% is our over privileged pollies flying around in air craft.

[@futureprogrammer880]

Clearly it is as solar in Australia and other renewables is booming. 35% of Australia's electricity comes from solar alone

[@Retinalism]

No mention of the other “Elephant in the room”, namely our limited (way below mandated 90 day minimum) supply of liquid fossil fuel. Sitting around 25 days for way to long, has drawn concerned reflection from Defence Force specialists, yet our amateur Federal Government fails to recognise this threat to our security, and that an accelerated transition to EV’s would be strategically helpful. Rather, they have already condemned EV introduction by their actions to initiate travel distance based taxing for them!

[@GanGoz]

So as I understand it, electricity is our largest green house emission source, and we are now proposing to force people to buy cars that run on electricity. I also understand the issue of battery chemistry, and recovery of the non-renewable elements used to make the batteries is also problematic. Are we absolutely sure we have thought this through.

[@Wayne-Pr]

Can someone please tell me how Ev's are going to travel the HUGE distances in 1 shot that we travel in this country there currently is no Ev on the face of the planet that can travel 12 to 18 hrs non stop especially in challenging terrain & conditions, FFS Aust is a very different country to the rest of the world wake the hell up to your selves if people want to buy Ev's then sure let them BUT if people want or need combustion engine vehicles then the last I checked we are not China or North Korea.

[@moonettewolfsong9960]

Waykat Services P/L Melbourne yep. If there isn’t a good charging station network in place then you run the risk of getting stranded. They really need to focus on getting a working charging system up so that electric cars can be used by long distance travelers in this big country.

[@Amuzic_Earth]

I can't believe a country like Australia doesn't have an emission standard. Really came as a shock to me.

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Well 20 years ago Australia found the the increased fuel consumption of cars with pollution controls causes far more pollution the the vehicles do! And when my 2002 Triumph was built there was 3 countries that didn't allow pollution controls and now there are 5 countries! So I would say that Australia was way ahead of the curve and the rest will someday catch up!

[@thomasbarca9297]

Why not create an electric Ute, good for the environment and looks awesome

[@BranRistic]

Do it the old way mate, an angle grinder

[@Retinalism]

Like this.....? www.ace-ev.com.au/ace-yewt/

[@svsdssp3196]

That takes 12 hours to fully charge. Sure.

[@Kiyarose3999]

EV are not the answer, as we don’t have the time or renewable energy to build billions of new vehicles, so they would be built using mainly fossil fuels. Also Lithium is not renewable and is very destructive to the environment, with open mines and ‘evaporation pools’. The current Internal Combustion Engined( ICE) cars are here now and if we roll out Photo Bio Reactors( PBR) we could produce Carbon Negative Bio Fuel. So no need to build new cars, and we could roll out PBR In just 3-5 years, we NEED to use these engines to help sequester CO2, in effect turning ICE into Carbon Sinks. The more you drive the more CO2 is sucked out of the atmosphere. Also for every gallon of fuel, 10 Pounds of nutrient rich ( Omega 3&9 etc) solid is produced that is used in supplements. Then there’s the fact that PBR grow Algea on Waste water so cleaning our water while providing Carbon Negative fuel, and giving us the nutrient solid. Cos these PBR have to be placed in every locality, villages, towns, neighbourhoods etc, so will create millions of local climate saving jobs.

[@Maige2900]

When I go to China, a "developing" nation and see soo many electric vehicles on the road. Makes you wonder how we can say we are trend setters

[@andrewthomas695]

Australia was once a pioneering nation. Those days and those people have long passed. The current generation of Asstralians are highly conservative, thinking that the way to a prosperous future can be achieved by monetary policy alone. Wrong. In no time in human history has falling behind ever led to prosperity. Yet we stick our heads in the sand and think old tech will keep us safe. Soft.

[@massatube]

Tommy it's spelt TESLA

[@massatube]

Andrew - Australians will take up electric cars when they are ready and not before.

[@Maige2900]

@tommy aronson are you a bogan who has only traveled to Bali? The state of our nation taking on this new technology is sluggish, the tech is already here. Aussies are too comfortable and are afraid of change

[@reecemartin453]

China, where everyone wears masks because the smog will kill you

[@MrAnperm]

The power from the charging stations still comes from burning coal. Is there really much of a net difference in emissions?

[@aussiepyro]

Yep, because the grid is continually becoming more renewable, so EVs will continue to get cleaner over time. Also, from an energy security point of view, we have plenty of coal, but pretty much no oil, so the more EVs = less reliance on foreign imports and fluctuating price cycles. And if you're lucky enough to have solar at home you can charge it for free!

[@vsiegel]

There is a small negative issue as long a the electricity comes from coal. It just becomes part of the general issue of stopping to use coal. And it allows to use personal solar cells, which makes up for the small negative. Plus it motivates to install solar cells, and more of them if you do it anyway. There is a method to use the car battery as storage of solar energy - for night and for rain - I do not know whether it is commercially available.

[@ShaunYoung]

A coal power plant is much more efficient at producing power than a petrol engine in a car in terms of CO2 emissions per kWh produced. Even using dirty coal, factoring in transmission and battery charging losses EV's emit about 2/3rds of the CO2 as an equivalent petrol vehicle. And with an EV obviously they can be charged by Hydro, wind, and solar.

[@thetagmarket1058]

On a flight to Sydney recently - Captain's announcement: "Ladies and Gentlemen... we are about to land in Sydney. Please remember to set your watches back... to 1965.

[@paulsz6194]

The Tag Market I hope you planted a tree when you landed, otherwise how do you sleep with all the Co2 your flight contributed to pollution & global warming?

[@jimlambrick4642]

Can't believe people in Auz aren't demanding EV's for purely economic reasons. Here on Vancouver Island, Canada they can't sell Leafs fast enough. Ditto Testla model 3 and a huge number of hybrids. People here are fed up of being played by big oil. God in Auz you can have a solar powered 'gas station' on your own sunny roof. Can't understand such a backward way to think.

[@reecemartin453]

No one wants micro cars here because, we dont want them.

[@ctydecks]

@@reecemartin453 instead people driving large 4wd in the city which are decked out as if they go through the bush!.. and then occupy 2 parking spots.

[@sanjuansteve]

We should all be using electric vehicles charged from the excess power generated from our home, business and covered parking rooftop solar arrays making nearly everything we do 100% solar powered. The cost per distance driven is ridiculously cheap when you are your own solar fuel station (less than $0.01 USD per mile)! #nobrainer We cannot afford to continue to burn fossil fuels!

[@adiintel1]

can you buy me electric car 60k min.... cant it do 600km in one tank and where do i recharge i live in the country. theres no infrastructure up here electric vechiles no thought what so ever.

[@MrLunithy]

I love how the big corps and gov blame the people for there mess.

[@MrLunithy]

@HardWarUK Yeah compared coal burning and large transport civilian vehicles don't compare and we have no choice.

[@coopsnz1]

$100,000 performance car is taxed $25000 , how is that Corporation greed dickhead when they don't own dealerships . small and medium business owners do , there is better profit in Usa with far less consumption tax , don't know how dealership owners survive here

[@James-xx7yt]

I feel like this segment could have used a look at all forms of transport.

[@skip181sg]

I have also heard that some Auto Makers don't bring more efficient models to Australia because te Fuel Standards are not as high as say the EU. So perhaps they need to implement an Emissions Standard for vehicles as well as raising teh Fuel quality standards also...:)

[@gregdean2012]

They are underpowered now stuff emission standards and electric toy cars .

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Funny everyone that I have met from Australia get far better manage then any cars in Canada get?

[@hitreset0291]

We lack federal government direction on EVs???? Jesus Christ...do you think???? Dino the Dinosaur Party.

[@magichead79]

Nissan Leaf battery setup is terrible. It can’t handle our climate. That’s why there is little demand.

[@gcb4763]

In a few years when it takes just a few minutes to charge up an EV to 80%, the government is going to have egg on their faces as voters will be asking "where are the charging stations?" Then the voters will ask, "why did the government choose to keep us dependent on fossil fuel".

[@johncitizen3927]

until it needs a $6,000 new batteries.....

[@camfam52002]

Makes joke about man bun....proceeds to laugh like a girl....Gold!

[@josec8896]

Again...climate change...so...is the government gonna tell me what to drive?

[@mj-zz7zc]

Abc news Australia Shadow Government is . Traitors of the Australian people.

[@mrtrashcompaktor1540]

He is an idiot American... @@mj-zz7zc

[@waynewhite2323]

The ABC is not a media network, it's a activist organization.

[@svsdssp3196]

If elected the Socialist Labor party will tell you what to drive, what to think, how to speak. They will intervene in every aspect of your lives. They are the most Left leaning opposition since Whitlam. They cannot be trusted in government.

[@svsdssp3196]

@@waynewhite2323 True. Full of lunatics. It needs to be cleaned out.

[@Marius-jp1te]

haha what a joke, Government wont do a thing for electric cars unless there is a big cut for them

[@tbonemc2118]

Surely the ABC can research a topic better than this? Successive governments have fallen well behind world emission standards. The Honda CBR 1100 was pulled from the US market in 2003 because it failed their new emission standards yet it stayed on sale here until 2007 when Honda stopped production. The US many years ago banned anything two stroke yet we can still buy them here. Even US companies are producing and selling stuff they can’t sell at home, here into Australia. ie. Poulen weed eaters. While most Australian’s profess caring about climate change and the environment something like 50% of our fleet is comprised of large suv’s and 4x4’s which are anything but efficient compared to smaller car options. While ev’s are definitely the way of the future advocating their use today when 80% of our electricity used to charge them is produced using filthy coal power generators is an irresponsible and dishonest argument. The Labor party policy of 100% renewables by 2030 is sheer fantasy as the technology to produce renewable base load electricity hasn’t been invented yet. And that applies equally to efficient much less toxic and cheaper storage ie. Batteries, plus generation. We could be doing much better than we are but that would require some effort instead of sloth.

[@bradleyirwin9545]

Long term fossil fuel transportation is doomed. Its simple supply and demand based on the limited amount of resources available globally. The future is electric whether you like it or not

[@gregdean2012]

Plenty of oil be around for years to come.

[@bradleyirwin9545]

@@gregdean2012 Yes Greg I agree. However longer term oil will become scarce which will inevitably cause the price to increase. At this point the average consumer will compare the running cost of owning a combustion engine vehicle to an electric. And the less costly option will be electric. Watch some of Elon Musk's talks, this will reveal everything....

[@bricla9178]

You are wrong. The future will never be electric. Don't you understand the frustration people have to deal with electric vehicles. They take ages to charge and have very low range. The future is recycling Co2 to make gasoline and diesel. No one wants a car like a iPhone sitting on their drive way.

[@gregdean2012]

@@bradleyirwin9545 we will both be dead by that time sorry cant afford a tesla . And dont want one wont be as good as my v8 landcruiser if people like them they will buy them . But you cant force people to buy cars when they can never pay for them.

[@bradleyirwin9545]

@@bricla9178 Look at the range Tesla is getting out of their cars these days Brian. Yes electric was plagued with low range etc a few years back, but not anymore.

[@josec8896]

I will send you Alexandra ocasio cortez....she is needed there..not here

[@Son37Lumiere]

0:41 Australia's version of US hillbillies.

[@AlexPittendreigh]

We call them bogans :)

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@AlexPittendreigh Interesting, thanks.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Could someone please enlighten me as to what the world is going to do with the billions of litres of petrol produced annually as a bi product of crude oil distillation? It is not as if we are all of a sudden going to stop refining oil, in fact as the world's population grows we will likely refine a lot more which leaves us with a lot more petrol. We use oil based products in pharmaceuticals, fertilisers, cosmetics, clothing, plastics, road building and on and on the list goes. That's before we even consider fuelling air liners, ships, trucks and trains. These items account for just over half of the the products as a consequence of mineral oil refinement, the rest is petrol, which is why it is so popular as a fuel choice. There's plenty of it left over after we've taken all the other "goodies" out. Engineers have no choice as to what products are produced when distilling crude oil. They can't simply say "we're not going to produce petrol, we'll focus on bitumen" or " we're not going to produce petrol, we're going to make more jet fuel". Crude oil refinement simply does not work that way. If you refine crude oil nearly half of it will be petrol. That is a fact, there is no technology which will change that. I'm far from being a climate change denier and I'm particularly interested in electric vehicles. I firmly believe that reducing carbon emissions is vital for the survival of the human species. What I simply don't understand is how we are going to manage an abundance of petrol if we stop burning it to propel vehicles. There is no practical way of storing the vast quantities which will continue to be produced and there's no "clean" way to dispose of it. I'm quite certain that there is not a single politician in the world that has considered this issue. Unless somebody starts thinking about a solution to this conundrum now do not be surprised that in the not to distant future governments the world over will be incentivising the use of petrol in cars again. That might be hard to believe today but I can't see any other way to overcome the very real problem that seemingly no one has addressed. If anyone has any thoughts on the matter I'd love to hear your suggestions.

[@digitaldyno7320]

I have 20 solar panels on the roof of my home in penance for my V8, how many other Aussies have them ? 8-)

[@neddyladdy]

There are big swathes of area where we can't get petrol, let lone a charger.

[@justinm2697]

I wonder....how much was the ABC paid to promote Nissan in this video?

[@BananaConcoction]

Probably nothing? The Nissan Leaf is one of the best selling full EVs in Aus. Should they have spoken to Ford?

[@freethinker4991]

It is interesting that there is no mention of were Australia gets the energy for transportation The top imports of Australia are Refined Petroleum ($18.5B), Crude Petroleum ($9.25B), equivalent of around 90 per cent of all fuel used in Australia. This 27.75B is approximately 13% of GDP if Australians used locally produces energy they would improve the economy by 13%. EV or convert to Gas are the options advance Australia and stop using Refined Petroleum.

[@Itallo_Assis]

I think electric car will popular in the future, not because of gas emission but because the oil will end.

[@aussiepyro]

@Aqua Fyre The financial viability of extracting every last drop is what will eventually decline, not the actual reserves themselves. There's plenty of those to last ages, like you say.

[@gregdean2012]

Hope you live a long time plenty of oil and they find more all the time .

[@aussiepyro]

@@gregdean2012 Yes, but just because they're constantly finding more, doesn't mean it's always cheap to extract...

[@gregdean2012]

@@aussiepyro true but that is not the case at this present time otherwise it would be represnted in the price per barrel of oil and even when it does most of the volatile price spikes are politically motivated or trouble in the middle .eastI am sure people who love and want an electric car will mostly be happy with them but telling the public what to drive is a step way too far for my liking

[@Itallo_Assis]

Ok, if they finding more oil, it's less than the past, even that is more cheap to extract, but is LESS, and the demand is growing worldwide. I'm not against to extract all drops of the oil, but we have to think in other solutions, we can't trust that we will find oil forever, we have to be preventive.

[@gg4u481]

Australia: where we laugh at our mistakes, blow big smokes

[@markmilligan6616]

Oz is an enigma, given its healthy supply of sun and a huge coastline to take advantage of, a great opportunity staring it in the face. Do what Norway has done use a fossil fuel resource to provide a cleaner sustainable future for yourselves.

[@petereiso5415]

I have never seen a public charging station yet. Not too many out west i would suggest.

[@AlexandervanderHilstFrijn]

Never new that Australia was so behind Europe and even America with almost everything it seems...

[@jakedekleuver]

If the govt is serious about pollution reduction they should minimise ( probably via a rebate) the local, state and federal TAXES charged on a property transfer where a taxpayer buys a home closer to a new employment opportunity. EV's are very expensive and at the moment and their range is insufficient for commuters. If you're a homeowner you may have the option to load an EV purchase onto your mortgage to avoid paying high interest rates. The risk here is that if you had to change your job to one further away you may be forced to upgrade your EV or go back to petrol power to be able to get to work reliably. Due to INSANE TAX costs attributed to buying another house closer to a new job people often choose to commute which is one of the reasons pollution levels will keep increasing.

[@jamesjames7286]

But doesn’t more cars on the road mean more output from coal fired power stations, which means more coal being burnt from a 41% efficient process, generating more CO2?

[@Mangoclay]

They fail to state that to charge an electric car in Australia you actually produce more CO2 then a petrol and Diesel car. All because the way the electricity is generated. Every video I watch promoting electric cars fails to explain where your electricity comes from. If it comes from solar/wind and charged from using solar on your house with wall battery, then yeah sure great. But our infustructure needs to be updated before we can all go electric.

[@demiclay9361]

Asking battery powered cars dealer opinion on petrol driven cars??? Is that called good investigative journalism!!! ???

[@neddyladdy]

They are one answer. Not the only one, but possibly the best.

[@rayleeaustralia]

We're the Banana Republic, what do you expect

[@namanish450]

Don't understand why the media targets the minority (car enthusiasts) and doesn't try to convince normal people (people willing to switch to EVs) to buy Evs. Also the reason our EV market is so dry is because of a lack of options (manufacturers not selling them here) and a lack of infrastructure (charging stations). It isn't the people's fault.

[@ms767210]

What has a ute muster to do with this. Pathetic attempt at journalism. The lack of electrification has so many other hurdles I am sure 36 blokes in utes aren't holding them back lol. Do your job properly and we might see some real change.

[@martinwelsh958]

The problem with EVs within Australia specifically is that outside of major cities we are very spread out. EVs are perfect for use within a major city and it's surrounds, but it's completely unrealistic to expect a farmer to own one (with current technologies). The government should be doing more to promote EV sales and infrastructure, but it's completely unrealistic to think petrol and diesel cars will be banned.

[@aussiepyro]

I'm pretty certain they're only referring to the purchase of NEW vehicles, not banning existing ones. And I'm sure any govt policy would have special exemptions for remote farmers if adequate alternatives don't exist by then. No reason not to make the change in the cities though, especially given that's where most of the cars are!

[@martinwelsh958]

@@aussiepyro There are plenty of groups other than remote farmers that would have a valid reason to own a non-electric vehicle - but yes I think it's definitely possible to move to a needs based system in the future (you need to prove you have a reason to purchase new diesel/petrol vehicles). This is how firearms are handled at the moment, and it still allows for recreational ownership but obviously prevents the vast majority of people from owning a firearm. Overlanders and racing nuts would still be able to buy new vehicles. I do think we are a number of years away from this though - I'd say 20 years as a minimum before this could be seriously considered; possibly sooner if the federal government radically increases it's promotion of EVs. I definitely agree though, for most city dwellers an EV (even the current generation EVs) are perfectly suitable.

[@nerdbane9376]

Why not improve what's doing the most polluting instead? and invest in more and better public transport

[@nerdbane9376]

@Panic Industry With regards to vehicles, an intermediate step between where we are now and a renewable powered society could be better and cheaper public transport, which I think most could agree Australia lacks in. My thinking is that public transport isn't cheap or convenient enough for many to choose it over a car; the Perth CATs are pretty good though. Also introducing more efficient, hybrid and electric cars would be good too, especially if they're developed and made in Australia.

[@aussiepyro]

Why not both?!!? 😉

[@jmcogh23]

You watch autonomous cars will change the game. Most people have no idea how much better there transport experience can be

[@EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV]

Bogan reduction + EV production = winning combo :)

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Yes a lot of politicians will get rich!

[@reecemartin453]

in the other video is shows that electricity is the majority of the greenhouse emissions If we all went and replaced all of out petrol cars with EVs over say 10 years none of our major cities could cope with the power consumption. i live in South Australia and the majority of utilities are about 40-50 years old 100 if you include water. our country is just not capable enough to have EVs as the preferable vehicle. In South Australia a gentle breeze will knock our power out and its done that plenty of times. nearly every house has solar panels on their roof yet we still have the highest power prices thanks privatization.

[@shiraz1736]

Um i,m sure most people would be charging overnight and for most people you would charge maybe once a week if the vehicle has a 450km range.

[@Naturenerd1000]

"As Western Countries Try to Lower Emissions not any where else" you mean. And Australlia all ready has some of the cleanest air in the world according to the pollution index scale so why should the people of Australlia be punished with a carbon tax? In the states modern cars have improoved so much in being more efficent and being cleaner that most states have dropped the annual cars emitions test tax because it is no longer necessary since cars have improoved so much in running cleaner.

[@moonettewolfsong9960]

The frustration of knowing the government and arguing amongst themselves is getting in the way of things _again_. Although on the positive side of things, the world is going to force things to change even if people are dragging their feet. If only because you simply won’t be able to buy non electric cars anymore. Which is a nice plus, not ideal that it needs to be forced but if that’s what gets the ball rolling, well something needs to give and soon. Also like the focus on getting chargers more available which is one of the big hurdles, in my opinion. Lots of driving is long range in such a big country so if you can’t refill any where then you don’t want to buy a car that could leave you stranded. Tesla had the right idea in having some charging stations ‘in the middle of no where’ and focusing on their charging network.

[@thatcoolkidjoey]

Are all the people in this video saying that we should drive electric cars do they drive electric

[@justinm2697]

@Panic Industry I would love to be forced to buy a new car even though I don't need one, but at least I get a few thousand of my tax dollars back in the form of a rebate. Since when do we have to mirror laws of other countries? But if that's what you're pushing for, beware.

[@mrtrashcompaktor1540]

since the Laws of Physics dictate that we have to stop greenhouse gas emissions into the atmosphere to maintain a habitable planet @@justinm2697

[@stevewhittall211]

simple answer NO they spotted Zali Steggle driving hergas guzzler suv asked why not drive what you preach ev she replys i have 3 kids and a dog what a moron hypocrit

[@D-Rizzle653]

Omg these cars need to be charged on electricity... we are doomed!

[@jasonvoss1984]

Fun to watch Tesla cars on drag strips beating practically everything. Really gave me a good laugh.

[@lopezb]

So true. That's the best way to convince muscle car fans. That plus gov't bonuses.

[@reecemartin453]

instant torque there is no debate. they made a EV drift car

[@John-gm8ty]

they only cost 4 times as much, totally feasible in this current age of real wages going backwards with inflation and the lowering dollar.... HER DER>

[@Ben-xv5jh]

I hate how people think that fully electrical car are good. What we really need is Hydrogen electrical cars, it's the feul of the future and all we get are people who blinded by fully electrical vehicles

[@steverx4460]

The Australian government needs to offer incentives for buying EVs eg buy price reduction, free high rate charger infrastructure. This wouldn't affect ute musters much at all. But it gives new buyers to the market choice. And the investment might mean EV producers would consider Australia a better market than it is at present.

[@lifelongbachelor3651]

won't be giving up any of my 8 petrol powered vehicles and bikes... not until i'm done and gone, anyway.

[@nicodabastard]

Corrupted politicians are Australia's pollution problem not the car owning people.

[@tommo2777]

don't we already have that dpf egr

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

I'm ready for my next car to be electric . I will just go down to my local electric car dealer for a test drive to see if......oh 🤔 wait a minute.....I don't have a local EV dealer anywhere near me. 😯 Or in the drivable distance...🙄 . Just put them on the market & let us people decide....you can't buy what's NOT available.😒

[@DJgetarealjob]

the 0.5% of the population that are car enthusiasts with v8s are not the problem... the 99.5% of ppl commuting to work should have evs

[@siredith8846]

The inner city latte-sippers will never understand the motoring needs of blue colour and country people. Or those of people who could never afford an electric car.

[@siredith8846]

5:36 the same percentage of society comprising the top rich

[@crackfat7200]

I can buy a Kia Cerato for $20,000.00 and get a 7 year warranty. The cheapest Tesla in Australia costs $125,000.00. The Hyundai Ioniq electric, the cheapest electric available in Australia, will cost $45,000.00 -$50,000.00 & has a driving range less than 200 klm. You can't even drive it from Canberra to Sydney without recharging it. I could buy the cerato & drive it 200,000 kilometers for free for what the Ionic electric costs. The Cerato fuel costs are about $0.12 per kilometer & the ioniq will cost about $0.08 per kilometer. so you will need to drive the Ioniq a million kilometers to recover the cost difference between the two vehicles including fuel!

[@kemalkeza6795]

of those 19% remove trucks and buses and other large vehicles including taxis and the figure would probably be less than 10%, combine that for personal or weekend use and it could be too insignificant to even be a cause for concern, as long as trucks, buses and taxis are electric, they can ban petrol cars but we should be allowed to drive them at least on the weekends which should be too insignificant to matter environmentally, banning them completely is unacceptable, I didn't grow up dreaming about life sized rc cars or mobile phones on wheels, I still didnt complete my goals of buying certain dream cars that I can modify.

[@shiraz1736]

Do you think anyone will be refining fuel for your weekend drives? maybe but you might be paying 3-4 dollars a litre for the pleasure.

[@liueric1988]

people need dissel and petrol vehicle in the rurual area. But in the city we need better and cheaper public transport system which we currently do not have. Personally i don't like driving my car in the city because of congestion and expensive parking.

[@haulinclass7478]

Rather a v8 not a nerd mobile

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

Sounds like a problem.. ok I will go down to my local car dealer & trade in my diesel ute for an electric ute.... Sorry. He said that no one seems have any...or even make them ....hmm It appears that I'm not the problem then! Get back to me when you figured out a solution , instead of just complaining about the problem

[@divinejusticefeelsgood]

Bogan fest

[@Bruce15485]

I will buy an electric car when they are cheaper than a comparable petrol vehicle and have cheaper replacement batteries.

[@hanbulban3131]

Leaf is a very bad car. Tesla right now the best electric out there

[@prashantcc1634]

Bring Teslas dudes... Everything will change automatically, mark my words..

[@berlindamoustafa1887]

What about building the car..Requires plastics and metals and all kinds of oil and stuff to make the car...So how does that reduce dependency on oil....You still have to have oil refineries...And planes and trains ....

[@InefficientElectron]

Plastics don't need to be made with oil any more. Regardless, the largest use of oil here is as fuel, so removing that from the equation means we're making a huge improvement.

[@aussiepyro]

It reduces it because those vehicles no longer burn it once they're made... Unlike every other type of car that also uses the exact same materials to build. It's not as if ICE vehicles that are currently being consumed don't require the same production chain...

[@jnicolettebailey]

TESLA

[@lukestocks4370]

ROLLS ROYCE

[@glendaw2268]

Imagine , the week before Christmas , everyone in Australia charges up their EV for the trip , aircon running , pool pump on. Everything on. BROWN OUT !!! Everyone in Australia needs PV on the roof and a big battery in the garage.

[@nathanhallisey441]

Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles would be better. No heavy battery, no huge waiting time to charge the battery at a servo on the major hwy.

[@aussiepyro]

Yes, however overall they're quite inefficient compared to a purely electric vehicle. Other engineering factors also mean that while they exist, they are mostly a waste of time for normal passenger cars. However, they're more likely to be financially viable for larger transport options like buses, trucks, trains and shipping.

[@danielthunder9876]

Hydrogen is underdeveloped compared to EV's. There are only a few models available. Hydrogen is very expensive to transport and store. It is far more expensive to buy than electricity. Also 98% of Hydrogen is currently produced with natural gas, not electrolysis.

[@crouchingwombathiddenquoll5641]

MATHS LESSON...a fleet of electric vehicles nation wide will require at least another 60 coal fired power stations equivalent generation capacity.

[@advandermeer740]

I hope you didn't pay for your maths education...

[@hanbulban3131]

EV is extremely expensive instead change our energy sources from coal to nuclear

[@smallbustboy]

You need hydrogen vehicles and not electric, you want electric cars with all the power cuts you get.

[@flamingstag2381]

these issues should have been part of the upcoming election !

[@ms767210]

Ah but isn't that what this program is attempting to achieve? The timing you could say is ironically inline with Shortens policy announcement. Good on you again Aunty for showing your colours.

[@AlexPittendreigh]

It is. Labor have proclaimed a policy to support a 50% uptake of EV's by 2030, and boost uptake of renewables with a more aggressive climate change policy. Conservative heads are currently exploding over it. Of course it remains to be seen what happens when/if Labor actually get into office. They don't have a good track record on these things either.

[@hanbulban3131]

Any industry that needs government help is a failing one.

[@DanielVerberne]

Many new industries can benefit from incentives to give that initial leg-up.

[@namenotavailable9989]

Or at its infancy. Electric car industry is in its infancy. Wait till it starts booming. Just a couple of years

[@AlexPittendreigh]

So what you're saying is that the fossil fuel companies are all failures. LOL

[@Mark-jq7re]

Good luck trying to get me to trade my classic Porsche for a electric car 🚗😂😂

[@mrtrashcompaktor1540]

someone may have to burn it for you

[@ZerraChannel]

Yes.. Taycan is comig soon in Germany and Norway.. jest 200 % better car than yours Clasic ever will be.. In Norway the State will ban all Petrol smalls cars in 2025.. Today the CV are 50 % of all CARS sales Not 0,2 % .. Volvo ( postar 2 and WV ID are soon coming... the the Cost of runing 100 mile Close to 10 Dollars

[@gregdean2012]

Trade that would mean money probably more borrowed or printed to use as a buy back then you can watch them crush your car for scrap Of course this will never happen .Just cant imagine my landcruiser as an electric 4x4 .

[@grlmgor]

@@gregdean2012 I don't think you can make a 4x4 that goes off road as rough bumps would most likely crack the batteries. Also water could be an issue.

[@Vivra_Verra____]

Stop emissions now! Buy a Tesla. Much faster and better!

[@weskaapenaar461]

Tesla batteries are glorified marketing...all they are is Panasonic batteries in fancy packaging!

[@harryjessen]

@@weskaapenaar461 the batteries for the Model 3 is actually Tesla batteries, but they are produced by Panasonic on the Gigafactory. The batteries for Model S and X are produced by Panasonic and imported to the US.

[@bishop1215]

Only the wealthy can afford them.

[@CrocTV42]

Baseline tesla costs 100000 dollars here bro

[@myjizzureye]

@@weskaapenaar461 The packaging is the best part. Have one, love it.

[@AussieTVMusic]

I have driven and owned Muscles cars in the 80s and I drove a Tesla and the tesla shits all over them. But the muscle cars are great for cruising on weekends.

[@gregdean2012]

Sure they are nice but not practical telling people to buy cars when they can never pay for it .

[@MrKingmino]

Good luck servicing it.

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

Riding a horse is also concidered a recreation. Let's not forget how we got here....

[@blank.9301]

MrKingmino have fun going to the mechanics.....

[@oblivionmad82]

Thorium is the solution

[@blank.9301]

Or Vanadium

[@rdbury507]

As an American I'm a bit surprised that we're not in last place for industrialized countries on converting to electric cars. I thought Australia was famous for its sunshine, and if you have oil reserves I haven't heard about it. So whatever happens with global warming, switch to solar for purely economic reasons.

[@rdbury507]

@Jeff Peate I guess Australia's sparse population and relative isolation makes comparison a bit difficult. But I wonder how Australia compares with NZ on green energy; NZ has the same issues with sparse population and isolated locale. But I guess comparing any two countries on something is going to raise apples to oranges objections. Which is why rankings among a group of countries is generally more useful.

[@jamesmoore1729]

Car salesmen! Why were we so stupid in not listening to these people for all our information before.

[@jasonvoss1984]

"Vehicle to grid" technology uses an electric car's batteries to either take energy from grid or push it on, whichever is appropriate at that time, essentially profiting from electricity price arbitrage (at different times of the day). Result if done well can be a more stable grid and probably charge the car for free or low cost because car battery is providing a useful service. Great concept in my opinion. Better than house batteries in some ways too.

[@berlindamoustafa1887]

What about tires ....And rubber for doors and seats.. and you have to have factories for glass..

[@nitramluap]

Urban sprawl, zoning restrictions and poor public transport, lack of cycling/walking routes that are pleasant, etc should be addressed with just as much urgency.

[@berlindamoustafa1887]

So more electric and power plants ....So do you use coal and hydroelectric plants or nuclear plants for the electric ....If you loose power then what...

[@aussiepyro]

Ideally, you just charge of solar panels at home for free. Otherwise, you can set them to charge in off peak times, when energy is currently being wasted anyway.

[@siredith8846]

Where does 4 Corners think electricity comes from?

[@wickedleeloopy2115]

I would be more concerned about the majority 81% of the coal power... Aside from that , an electric navara makes more sence than the leaf.

[@suntzuwarsword1964]

I love hot rods,v8s, but with out a doubt..E'v are coming ,tesla will rule the world....

[@Vlaid65]

Australia is waiting for hoverboards.

[@w_stanky]

Oh yeah, battery powered vehicles will be great till it comes time to charge them.. Electricity costs already through the roof and will rise with labor’s renewables target. Australia has the biggest national highway of any country in the world, it cannot be compared to tiny European countries with larger populations.