Are Hackers the Biggest Threat to America’s Critical Infrastructure? | Cyberwar

[@Mike-kc5ew]

"You'll never be able to prevent all cyber intrusions..." -Michael Daniel. I'm glad we have someone in a position of power with the clarity to observe this fact.

[@Denka_]

the government so full of old people that can't even open a PDF file lmao

[@markjesse-uh1bw]

lol 😂

[@steven-el3sw]

the govt is filled with pdf files...

[@njpme]

​@@steven-el3swI see what you did there 😂

[@spicychad55]

@@steven-el3sw only the ones with the (R) by their name!

[@dan-tv1kp]

Unless that PDF has a 0-day exploit ;-)

[@blks2k2]

This is 8 years old - little outdated?

[@josha.bdoge2]

Vice wasnt allow to release it until they checked in with their new Saudi masters...

[@GrannyDryden]

I think the core message still stands, however, I did think something similar when they were talking to President Obama’s security consultant.

[@x316RiotMakerx]

The video might be outdated, the message is absolutely relevant.

[@dancoroian1]

Vice doesn't actually exist anymore, what do you expect? Nothing they've uploaded recently is new...

[@Blingchachink]

@@GrannyDrydenawww do you?

[@akmartinez1]

Cyberwar was one of the best shows on Vice when it aired on TV. Wished they kept this show going...

[@baliharsingh4714]

How come these only get posted 8 years after it's aired on TV?

[@JordanJ01]

Bankruptcy, lol.

[@Hyde-Jahf]

Vice is essentially dead. They tried to grow too much. When that collapsed they tried to partner/merge/be acquired in recent months but had no takers. They're just releasing most of their content now possibly in a last gasp. Very unfortunate but there doesn't seem to be a market for this content on the budget it requires, we're down to mostly small independent creators now and are going to lose out on a lot of topics.

[@Limaops-e3b]

Cause they are money grubbers

[@blaskoxx4954]

Vice got greedy they saw the money and they took it.

[@marcfavell]

Because there's an Internet TV delay do to the hackers 😂

[@FigFirearms]

Keep bullying nerds in highschool, this is what happens

[@Melted-Ether]

I think nation state adversaries are the threat. Not “nerds” in school. Bullied people are still good people who take part in our society.

[@ColtranesOffspring45]

​@@Melted-Etheragreed, good response

[@nermo.artist]

nerds are out for revenge

[@broken_casper]

💀wall st still bullies lol

[@ud7845]

We aren't in 1990 anymore dude lmao

[@ajmasters6546]

I would have loved a reporter that actually knew IT or cyber security in the slightest to be reporting on this. This guy had no idea what any of these people were talking about.

[@ajmasters6546]

@brainwashedburgerworshipper it does matter because the person doing the interview needs to understand what the person is talking about to ask good questions in response to their answers to have an engaging conversation and to get more information about the topic.

[@EnnisBro]

@@ajmasters6546 I half agree but the reason it is "dumbed down" is because the average viewer has little grasp on technical terms related to what is being discussed. Asking easily digestible questions is a good way to help viewers easily understand the topic. Vice is a general "news network" so for a video like what your describing it would be more suitable for a tech news network.

[@JamesD-iw6pr]

Then you obviously fail to grasp the point of the series. It is not for experts to take to experts and thereby alienatiing the average viewer, it is for the experts to communicate in laymans terms so that anyone with any background can grasp the concepts. Cyber Security professionals are likely not watching this series because they know all about it anyway. Ben is representing the average viewer and his questions reflect that. He knows a lot about National Security because that is literally his job, but he also knows who is going to be watching this. Sometimes it is good to think rationally.

[@Praisethesunson]

Neglect is a bigger threat than spooky hackers.

[@dallas_l9163]

What worse is that they say there is a cyber security skill shortage but almost none of these companies actually wants to invest in training cyber workforce because there is no profit. They don’t realize it until they are impacted by an attack.

[@addieclark2026]

as a cybersecurity advisor this is so spot on. People don't want to pay for cybersecurity until they've already been breached. This is why I'm becoming a hacker instead lol

[@guapboii2438]

@@addieclark2026what are you learning to hack

[@Beef42331]

12:59 the person on the bike in the background for sure fell off after that shot

[@masterbelch1293]

Attention to fine detail nice. Been there swerving out of control, lol

[@S.aTan-._.-]

😂

[@wadestclair249]

Stuxnet was brought into an Iranian facility via an external drive and wasn't even connected via the net.

[@CrowClouds]

Crazy idea: what if we didn't connect them to the internet

[@dsnodgrass4843]

"But muh line won't go up!" - hedge fund tech stock flippers.

[@g00rb4u]

As the comment above says, Stuxnet was brought in via a USB Drive to an otherwise isolated system.

[@LoayMatar]

Yes, ICS and other critical systems should be in an air-gapped network.

[@danchapman78]

@@LoayMatar They have been air-gapped when air-gapped wasnt cool . They all look and act the same , what you see aint nuthing new .

[@gamereditor59ner22]

As a person who learn computer/basic cybersecurity for 15years and play on both legacy and new technology, I can say one thing that if anything is connected on network, you better have it secure with good encryption. It is not guarantee, but better be safe than sorry. Edit: learning network infrastructure is fun and get to see situations to building and finding vulnerability to prevent the real life situation.

[@EBO47]

Do you think computer science should be mandatory in school from elementary to high-school? Feel like it's not because to many people would try to be hackers

[@MeiinUK]

@@EBO47 : The only reason why everybody is at risk is because there are new actual satelites shot upwards into the world. And that is why everybody is at risk. "They have it, so why can't I?"..... "I want one too !"..... But with power, comes responsibilities. And not many people knows or accepts the responsibilities that comes with it....

[@Kyler-r3n]

So basically your saying I'm happy..but use at your own risk..just make sure your monthly payment is on time

[@digiryde]

@4:50, she is being kind. There are bigger issues than that as well.

[@GrannyDryden]

I’m just surprised more of these critical infrastructure systems aren’t “air gapped”

[@brs766]

A ton of them (chemical facilities) are. There is no way that person could control an NG plant in Houston.

[@Maxjoker98]

Yeah, air gaps are cheap and effective, but they can be very inconvenient. Also air gaps aren't perfect, everything with a pin that can be controlled programmatically can emit detectable RF. You can probably speak LoRa over VGA, HDMI, LPT, etc. Also you can do what happened with Stuxnet and just infect computers via infected USB devices(nowadays probably smartphones). In reality everything can probably be hacked, it's just about making it more difficult. Unfortunately, we're often prioritizing low cost and convenience over security.

[@GrannyDryden]

@@Maxjoker98 true though to my mind, remote attacks verses needing physical access to machine to deliver a payload via USB, for example is of a magnitude more difficult and would stop a lot of these random attacks. Reminds me of the early days of home wifi, when routers open authentication was on by default and you had to turn WEP on.

[@synik4lc]

@@Maxjoker98 Best comment in this section. Well said

[@voidvector]

Air gapping costs money -- it means power company engineers/technicians cannot monitor/operate remotely, e.g. WFH, requiring night shift. Are you willing to pay extra on your power bill for air gap? Or are you going to pick the cheapest power company?

[@TRAVIESO_NA]

We all didn't Pay enough attention in "MATH" classes.

[@theehans]

The answer to question is no. The biggest threat is knowledge. And having so many inexperienced computer users set up government and critical infrastructure with default passwords isn't going to solve anything.

[@AlexanderNecheff]

@@GR4MPI Quantum computers are not a silver bullet. Post-quantum cryptography is well underway with cipher and digital signature algorithms already identified.

[@minisithunknown5568]

To help fight against lazy passwords they just have to add a biochip reader or fingerprint/retinal scanner. But a knowledgeable human can beat any security system unless you have an active human cyber security team.

[@caffeinatedralph]

Wrong

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

We must fight against misuse of malicious AI, technology, the internet, social media, satellites and propaganda. That is what is taking place in our world and also in the spiritual realm. Stand up to save democracies against global supremacists, terrorists and dictators!

[@pedrinhodam]

for those complaining that it's an 8 year old video, people who haven't watched back then has the chance to see it now. and as cybersecurity goes, it's still relevant

[@FORCE_PBC]

This video is 8 years old… your killin me smalls.

[@lakorai2]

Plants get hacked when companies are cheap AF. No password managers, no enforcement in Conditional Access, no passkeys, no Yubikeys etc. Refusing to upgrade and patch systems due to cost.

[@Bkojohnkllplpopll]

It's not hackers you have to worry about. You have to worry about an entity ( a person who isn't in the system but is in the system with a name) that knows how to monopolize people. A computer doesn't know how to monopolize people and psyche them out with Psychological Operations. I knew of a girl who did this and she had five counties wrapped around her little finger. The cool thing was that she was being herself. She passed away and her legacy is still thriving.

[@LIZOV-ek6cz]

❤

[@fernandomarquez3131]

Situation is grim.

[@hiyo3]

I really enjoyed this series when it first aired. Even though this aired years ago , still very relevant in 2024.

[@harry8912]

Cybersecurity is a vitally important field for national security, there’s so much exposed in the US that it’s hard to defend it all effectively. Hackers are just one of the problems.

[@HostileOfficial92]

SO YALL JUST GONNA GIVE THEM IDEAS 😂

[@Brandonhayhew]

we should cut or reduce use of the internet

[@anishbhadouria3186]

Please bring more such Cyber attacks videos... It's so much interesting topic... 🙏🙏🙏🙏😊

[@Waltaere]

Yes

[@alexanderattaie]

I love how he almost forgot and barely tacked on "health care"at the end 6:14 😂 lol because we don't have any health care.

[@JJ-bj6hg]

Damn vice you laid off too many journalists.

[@ministerjeannielaine3637]

Thanks for this information.

[@swizzle876]

Why does everything need to be connected to the internet? Smh

[@Ayyyyyrae]

That’s why cybersecurity is a growing job. They need more ppl in that field

[@KrissyD-px9gj]

I feel like refusing to repair and maintain infrastructure is probably a bigger risk lol. Not that cyber warfare isn't a big risk

[@JUANGUZMAN-zg7zk]

That dude almost fell off the bike!

[@Naut1188]

They talked to some real people on this episode.

[@LovelyFurryCat-pk9bt]

This seems like the worst period. Even the market are now very unpredictable. Started investing recently when the market prices were a bit high,today I am more than 60% down!

[@LEOkidHappy]

Don’t be confuse buying the dip in a bear market, with guaranteed future returns. Just because that company is down 60%+ from ATH does NOT make it a sound long-term investment. Make sure you’re investing in great companies. kudos to harriet alice ....

[@MosesUroh]

I agree just reached my goal of $500k yearly trade earnings. Setting realistic goals is an essential part of trading

[@MichaelJames-v4n1u]

Please educate me, i'm willing to make consultations to improve my situation,

[@LovelyFurryCat-pk9bt]

Her technical analysis is excellent and her interpretation/projections of the market are so accurate I sometimes ask myself is she is a human The point she is the perfect trader to follow for advice and guidance

[@MichaelJames-v4n1u]

Please how do I find this financial counselor?

[@DomBurgess]

I still find the idea that there are 'rules' in war, completely absurd.

[@LordWiggle]

The fact that a bunch of boomers are in control of the cyber security of critical systems and departments gives little to no hope.

[@jiminydoge]

Why is Vice just re-uploading all their old stuff?

[@WANDERING_AFRICA]

Bankruptcy problem

[@THX-1138]

Microsoft, which the U.S. Military uses for azure cloud, core codes all it's products, including azure cloud, overseas in Israel. Intel, who backdoored all of their chips, on purpose, does R&D in israel and considers themselves "as much an israeli company as a US one".

[@waverley41]

"core codes"? lmfao stop making up terminology 😂

[@Sunrise-d819i2]

@@waverley41 he means mirco-code within the cpu itself. which makes sense to call it "core" of all code as its at the core of the cpu.

[@Lexie-bq1kk]

Israel is so sketchy ugh so horrible. pretending to be a democracy while they export genocide and spyware to authoritarian regimes. truly heart breaking.

[@JDM-Chaser]

"Running on outdated software? You're the consequence of your own negligence. Making things proprietary? Expect consequences when the creators fade away." - SirCryptic

[@LabGecko]

0:29 _"wind up with a cyber war"_ Hackers: We're... in... like... 4?

[@kirenesohill3397]

No, having all of our top technology R&D centers (Intel, Microsoft, AMD) in foreign countries is the greatest threat to US critical infrastructure.

[@davidlee50]

Domestic threats are climbing but we have good people to find them.

[@AnthatiKhasim-i1e]

One of SmythOS's standout features is its ability to integrate with a wide range of applications effortlessly. This is a significant advantage over other AI tools that often struggle with compatibility issues, making SmythOS a more user-friendly choice.

[@rstart.1276]

Is it just me or are we actually witnessing the reporter get smarter with each interview? 😂

[@diamond_rd]

This is Vice level reporting, important topic, great pace and clear explanations, great video.

[@fatlip8315]

I think poor administration of said password logins is the main area were lacking in, and it's not unknown - just unaddressed, but that's where my research has me guessing. Is it unaddressed still?

[@hazzaldo]

15:35 - the security threat was his laptop being completely soaked.

[@maxmikester8185]

No, the biggest threat to American infrastructure are the people who refuse to fix and maintain. Greed is the real problem here with corner cutting. If a computer attack causes an infrastructure problem, either someone is stupid or it could have been prevented but security is skimped to save money.

[@dsnodgrass4843]

Finally, some sense down here.

[@Qallash]

Little actions with BIG consequences. Very frightening outcomes 😡

[@superga5]

is this a repost?

[@jasonc3589]

What U.S. Infrastructure? Have you been living under a rock or something? Whether physical or Cyber, The U.S. doesn't have any infrastructure left...

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

We must fight against misuse of malicious AI, technology, the internet, social media, satellites and propaganda. That is what is taking place in our world and also in the spiritual realm. Stand up to save democracies against global supremacists, terrorists and dictators!

[@DumpsterJuice4U]

13:02 had a double take of the guy in the background lol xD

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

The problem is not the hackers, but the quality and maintenance of the software.

[@Chulitatr]

Laws have to tougher, and security updated. Hire Richard Krebs back too.

[@blaskoxx4954]

Talkin about SCADA systems I'm guessing - those are fun to mess with.

[@coocat231]

Being in gov cybersec professionally, I can tell you that it is most certainly foreign adversary hackers that are often state sponsored (even if they’re doing it for fun, the foreign adversary isn’t going to stop them bc they’re interested in that data as well). While some American hackers most certainly do have malicious intent, they are not often going after US companies. In my management of enterprise networks, bots are constantly (and annoyingly) crawling our network from foreign IP addresses (yes, namely Chinese and Russian).

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

We must fight against misuse of malicious AI, technology, the internet, social media, satellites and propaganda. That is what is taking place in our world and also in the spiritual realm. Stand up to save democracies against global supremacists, terrorists and dictators!

[@xerocorp]

me turning to control room operator: got any games?

[@alexsanderbushov3484]

Shout out to all the people working as contractors who paid for certifications

[@rustyshackleford2841]

The more “ online “ the world goes, the easy is for the world to engage in cyber warfare/ cyber shenanigans.

[@MisterStifler]

Don't feel too sorry about the longer video not turning out nicely, we fully understand. Sucks to hear that you have to leave your current shol. Good luck with finding a new one, hope you get sorted out soon!

[@ICSSecurityResearch]

Head of a cyber security consulting firm and sounded like he had no idea what he was talking about

[@thisizlegit]

I wish we can go back to the early and mid 90s one cell phones were only cell phones and Internet was only used for business purpose. Life was goooooood!

[@JuntusOrothon]

If you make a documentary with tense, suspenseful music in the background then whatever it is about is bound to feel like a threat. Humans, especially the kind that would tune in to tis documentary in KZbin, are pretty dim and easily influenced - BECAUSE of the music that sets the tone.

[@ThaoNguyen-jv4up]

The best hackers are the ones that never got caught ( kinda scary when you think about it ) basically walking super weapon

[@johndeaux8815]

6:26 he almost forgot healthcare is critical but remembered finance without an issue, 'Merica!

[@SwitchFBproductions]

13:02 lol person wobbling on bike

[@PeterR0035]

Car systems have very cheap electronics and software. These are even more vulnerable, especially since manufacturers implement black boxes and wireless connections via SIM cards! 😮😮

[@nyrixx]

Be sure to do an update to this and talk to a bunch of "experts" and government reps that either have no idea wtf they are talking about or are being intentionally vague and fear mongering while ignoring or not actually explaining the real issues for this subject out there. Or you could just reshare this video I suppose since you already did that.

[@EveryThingIsFake-m7]

Government hack me everyday for my poop schedule

[@bostonfrombrady]

Found some outstandingly intelligent folks on this one!!

[@Mathingus]

YEAR:2900 me:“Oh no a pipe broke in our house” dad:”ITS A CYBER ATTACK” Meanwhile in a place far far away…. hampter:”hahah pipe go BOOM!!!!”

[@CodesFR]

😮😮😮Cyber attacks were terrifying

[@user-pb8yw8cw3s]

Unfortunately, the question of how to localize the attackers was not addressed.

[@birdflipper]

The answer to Michael Chertoff's question is in cyber war there are no rules.

[@anonlegion9096]

16:40 I thought it was Doug Stamper from House of Cards lol

[@brucecaron2776]

you cant attack some thing that's not connected to the internet ,

[@TheLunarnotes]

I don't believe for a second a Russian hacker would risk speaking to a random US journo from Vice magazine, there's no way that happened

[@jchastain789]

If there's a will there's a way. Especially when the hackable internet is involved. I didn't hear any new information in this doc

[@TheAnkit211]

Dont be surprised to know how vulnerable the US industrial control system and SCADA system is ..

[@joel9909]

Seems I’ve taken the right decision enrolling to be a Certified Ethical Hacker here in Ghana Let’s see where this journey leads us

[@MrShavrgo]

no corporate greed is

[@lukasritzer738]

I hate when networks put out previously aired episodes and act like they’re brand new. Many including Vice do this and it’s super misleading, outdated, and annoying.

[@happykitten5695]

Peace and LOVE for ONE and ALL

[@donadoamed]

the answer is simple, there are no rules of engagement.

[@jpsolares]

This is like a movie we have suspense!

[@zachgamingzone]

No, politicians are.

[@timtim2668]

Why does this video seem so old?

[@lvb1770]

Wasn't the "Chamon-uh" virus a Michael Jackson song? ;) Heehee...

[@TeaMaster420]

Is it so hard to just have some computers within the infrastructure that are not connected to the internet or outside world in any way?

[@AlexanderNecheff]

If you want remote support from the vendor or your operators - yes having completely air gapped systems is a problem.

[@TeaMaster420]

@@AlexanderNecheff "Remote support from the vendor"???? The companies / the goverment running that stuff should be able to operate it by themselves.

[@AlexanderNecheff]

​@@TeaMaster420 They could. But it isn't a matter of ability. Organizations love to pay support contract fees in order to shift liability to another entity. When some dam control system goes tits up because of a faulty update, the utility operating the dam doesn't want to be left holding the bag. This is the tao of corporate software purchasing agreements.

[@fokyewtoob8835]

All I gotta say on it is it’s a joke till it’s not. We’d be wise to secure our infrastructure but I don’t see that happening

[@thegenr8]

You might want to look into NERC/CIP as there are already regulations that tell utilities how they need to protect their networks

[@dualexistence]

Hackers are nothing compared to incompetent programmers like me.

[@abgzulkifli]

You want it... and you have to face it

[@ricardolujanvalerio30p]

But did you finish your beer?

[@mixelplix]

No, right wingers are.

[@ameen189]

well this aged very well huh

[@abgzulkifli]

Stealing the electricity is among themselves