Are Men Done? They Are Failing at School, Work, and Life.

Richard V. Reeves documents terrible trends and suggests solutions that don't come at the expense of women.
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Over the past 50 years, boys and men have lost ground at school and work and they're living shorter lives. They're less likely than women to graduate from high school and college or to earn advanced degrees. They're dropping out of the labor force in record numbers and account for two-thirds of so-called deaths of despair stemming from suicide, alcoholism, and drug overdoses..
The Brookings Institution scholar Richard V. Reeves documents these and other, equally dark developments in Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What To Do About It. He analyzes the structural factors exacerbating these trends-such as the changing nature of work in a postindustrial economy-and suggests solutions that don't come at the expense of women.
Reeves was our guest at the Reason Speakeasy, a monthly, unscripted conversation in New York City with outspoken defenders of free thinking and heterodoxy in an era of conformity and groupthink.
0:00 Intro
01:43 Education and Men
9:00 Work and Men
18:26 Health and Men
23:12 Gains of Men
28:08 Deindustrialization
30: 30 Decline in Education Performance
40:18 Biology and Men
43:58 Decline in Work Performance
50:04 Affect on Black Men
54:52What the Left Gets Wrong
58:17 What the Right Gets Wrong
1:03:34 Solutions
1:09:26 Nursing
1:14:15 VoTech
1:17:25 Audience Q&A
1:30:30 Masculinity in Crisis
Produced by Nick Gillespie and Adam Czarnecki; Edited by Adam Czarnecki and Justin Zuckerman
Credits: John Orvis / Splash News/Newscom; FRANCES M. ROBERTS/Newscom; Milos Ruml/ZUMAPRESS/Newscom; Michael Ho Wai Lee / SOPA Images/Newscom; Carline Jean / South Florida Sun/TNS/Newscom; Cherie Diez/Rapport Press/Newscom; FRANCES M. ROBERTS/Newscom; imageBROKER/Heinz Krimmer/Newscom; imageBROKER/Roland Hottas/Newscom

[@ludwigvonsowell5347]

Education catered to women, Corporate policy catered to women, law enforcement catered to women, divorce court catered to women, club cover charges catered to women. But men are priviledged. I’m not saying men should be whiners about it, I’m just saying let’s not lie about it.

[@VangelVe]

Agreed. College-educated women are the most privileged demographic group in history. Having said that, males raised in single-parent families have serious disadvantages because they need fathers as they are brought up.

[@AustinTheTerrible]

Women have basically been flung open the door and men have had cement poured at their feet both physically spiritually legally, and women do not wish to acknowledge this or want to have the status of a victim while holding the bag. They are holding all the cards, and don't understand that it's holding them back.

[@deusvult1268]

And hopefully try to change it as well.

[@Muonium1]

Law enforcement and divorce court didn't "cater" to women, it systematically reorganized itself half a century ago to FAVOR females and discriminate against men. Police called to a domestic dispute? Duluth model of domestic violence intervention implemented - man automatically arrested no matter what happened. Divorce dispute over child custody? Mother's lawyers routinely simply tell their clients to make a false claim of abuse and she automatically gets full custody, the father will never see his children again. Criminal prosecution sentencing? Men are twice as likely to serve a jail sentences as women for the same crime and serve sentences >60% longer than women.

[@lacky9320]

Came here to say this. Well put.

[@redpepper313]

Neglect the emotional and academic needs of men throughout their teenage years, release them into the work force with no marketable skills or self-confidence and voila, you have a crisis of “immature masculinity.” Why are we surprised? These guys are just resuming their personal development from where society left them.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

Males, you have no choice but to step up in developing your own skills! Most high school sounds like it's next to useless in teaching life skills let alone job skills, so you have no choice except to take initiative and learn skills on your own! If you lack the initiative to even do THAT how do you expect to survive in this world. My school didn't teach auto repair, BUT when I was driver license age I was very motivated to learn it (because I hated the idea of driving cars while not knowing how to fix them and just being helpless when they break down). So i learned auto repair of the self-taught variety. I put together a cheapo tool set, got books and articles how (internet wouldn't be along for 20 years) and started fixing cars: I fixed up a 1960 Ford Falcon so my brother could have a car, it needed a valve job so I did it. It ran fine for years, he never even said thank you but it was the right thing to do and I did it. The point is since for most men college is a waste of time, the other option is the trades, either get an apprenticeship (if you can even find one now!) or else take courses in what you want to/CAN do that earns a living. Plumbing, electronics/electrician, welder, whatever it is, pick a job that won't be replaced by machinery for the next 30-40 years and that you find you are good at. That's the only sensible course of action now!

[@alienboogieman]

So what you're saying is all men need a daddy?

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

i definitely felt this looking back: after finally getting spat out by the education system at 23, i felt like i was mentally 12-13 years old

[@rohenry9962]

@@alienboogiemanYes, they need their fathers to help guide them thru life. Because their fathers can understand the male experience and depart wisdom on how to best deal with it.

[@rustyshackleford1465]

@@robertmaybeth3434 You've got a point, but you're presenting it in an insufferable way. You're part of the problem. I myself took up appliance repair which is something I had to do for my own household, and I actually enjoyed taking my dryer and washer apart, testing the fuses, replacing parts, etc etc... but that's something in line with my own passion, just telling other people to learn on their own regardless without help from others, with no mention of context, and making it a matter of "survival" or "competition" destroys your own argument.

[@Wanderer2035]

Anxiety and depression is too high . But it feels like society doesn’t seem to care. Society: “you have anxiety and are depressed? HA not my problem. GET BACK TO WORK”

[@blondequijote]

Or they'll say you need to practice "self-care". And they don't mean deciding you don't care about the society that has demonized u from toddlerhood onwardand will only care about ur self. They mean it's ur fault for not choosing to keep coping and going along with the global depopulation agenda that includes rabid feminism.

[@AnOriginalYouTuber]

Noticed that Zoomers tend to care about men much more than older generations.

[@princessmarlena1359]

Society towards males: “We’re playing the world’s smallest violin for you!” 🎻🎶🎵

[@aouna9412]

Stop smoking weed now while you can before they make it even more addictive cuz that’s the main cause not the overall tho.

[@MisterFudan]

Anxiety? Yes. Depression? Yes. Was diagnosed after marrying my ex wife. Seems like I was doing pretty well beforehand. Before her = college degree and happiness. After her = divorce and courts that don't care about men and their relationship with their kids.

[@VroodenTheGreat]

Society better HOPE men aren't done. We do all the work.

[@sanniepstein4835]

Raising children is not work? Nature disagrees.

[@someone-ji2zb]

Considering the currently inflation rates, declining birth rates, and overall political nightmare we have been in... yea, I am fairly certain most men have been done for a while. Also, record high sales of video games and an ever rising porn empire goes to show how screwed most men are and how little hope they have.

[@Que772]

A.I. will take over

[@turtleanton6539]

​@@someone-ji2zbyes

[@hugh2hoob668]

Women work useless jobs like Social work 😅

[@zg-it]

In 3rd grade I stopped doing homework but did well on tests. Drove the teachers mad. Had my parents take me to a psychologist. He determined I was at a higher level and was bored. My parents were proud. I enjoyed the afternoon away from school. Didn't do homework until 7th grade. That's when I became socially self conscious.

[@alanlight7740]

Years of research has yet to find that homework makes _any_ difference in education results. It's just busy work and you were smart enough to realize it.

[@death31313]

I did the same thing, the only difference was that I never really started doing my homework except for in the few advanced level classes I was fortunate enough to be offered. I actually did quite well in these classes. I'm of the oppinion the educational system doesn't know what to do with someone like this.

[@KellieEverts--conductsNightTra]

Homework is a CURSE, lol. How I hated it as I was being abused at home & emotionally so stressed out I couldn't think straight. Screw these teachers who give homework.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😛😛😜😜🤠🤠🤠

[@princessmarlena1359]

@@KellieEverts--conductsNightTraright? The teachers who assign it are just deficient and lazy

[@MedicalAutonomyProject]

My husband was a "screw off" student in elementary school and was tested for a possible learning disability. He tested at college level in reading. Public school teachers spend so little time individually with students they cant discern the difference between learning disabled and gifted. He was advanced a grade but his lazy self-centered Boomer parents made no effort to enrich his education. They were too busy with drug abuse (him) going back to school (her) and getting divorced

[@jameskresl]

They'll be important again when society collapses.

[@Baldbutstillhuman]

It’s more likely to rot slowly than collapse abruptly. We have time to change things but we need to be hasty

[@internettuffguy1197]

Civilizations don't slowly collapse over time in the end, they evaporate.

[@Baldbutstillhuman]

@@internettuffguy1197 Just because some of them have collapsed that way in the past, doesn’t mean that’s a given for our society. That’s a genetic fallacy.

[@wesley6442]

Exactly! who runs all the infrastructure, getting their hands dirty doing the manual labor? men, that's who

[@jones2277]

society won't collapse. you will just become the social underclass subjugated to those in power. this means you better stop feeling sorry for yourself and level up or you will be working for China.

[@IStandwithVlad]

Not failing. Quitting. There’s a difference

[@someone-ji2zb]

Not really. Quitting is essentially failing in life.

[@majorpaindiaz]

@@someone-ji2zb no it is not

[@someone-ji2zb]

@@majorpaindiaz Depends on the context, but for the most part, yes, it is.

[@HonkHonkler]

@@someone-ji2zb Keep telling yourself that.

[@someone-ji2zb]

@@HonkHonkler Yea I will. Countless men around me quit improving. They quit working out, they quit managing their eating habits, they quit their job because they don't want to learn new skills, they quit trying to apply to the jobs they want because of one rejection, they give up on women and instead blame the world rather than leading others out of the gutter (even if they themselves don't find what they want), and they quit giving a flying crap about anything but what pic or video to jack off to or what video game to focus on for the next several months.

[@eke313]

Women say they're better off without men yet want men to protect and provide for them.

[@Arthur_King_of_the_Britons]

Not to mention entertain them. Providing isn't enough any more

[@rickb06]

Women will always demand more while reciprocating as little as possible. We empowered the people who are responsible for bringing the next iteration of the human species into the world without deeply thinking about the implications of such a disastrous line of thought. Women are biologically unfit to perform the work of men, and until women come to terms with this indisputable fact, we'll suffer as a species. Women forgot their place, they let their emotions dictate societal evolution and that was a mistake. We can, and could have stopped this problem before it became a problem, but we say by, meekly and did nothing. The problems we face require actions that will be resoundingly unpopular and harsh, but if we don't force women to fill their biological role, as men have always done without complaint until now, humanity will be gone in no time.

[@Jimraynor45]

@@rickb06 This line of thought runs contrary to basic ideas of freedom and individual liberty. Women should have free choice and allowed the same freedoms as men. What were seeing is very complex and is due to a myriad of reasons, but if your answer is tyranny, then it's the wrong answer. Not only is it wrong, but it wouldn't work.

[@brianmeen2158]

Stop providing and protecting them then. In all honestly, a good % of the problems today are there due to men not holding their ground . Men put women on a pedestal and it’s pathetic and counter productive and then these same men wonder why some women feel entitled 😂😂

[@brianmeen2158]

@Programmer just thinking of the perks that single mothers get the more they mess up melts my brain.

[@redpilldh]

We walk away from the System and now We’re Failing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💆🏾‍♂️

[@Noahcrusade99]

Society will burn. They've initiated war on male freedom.

[@willhelmberkly3025]

As a man who is a failure in every category of measurement please be advised that the humor which ReasonTV finds in my complete destruction in no way aggravates my exceptionally dynamic and explosive rage complex.

[@bensonbrett30]

Hey friend. Hope your day is going well. Is there any topic in particular you could use a thought partner with. Life goals? Mental health resources? Education and degrees? I’m down to converse if you simply have no one to bounce ideas off. Be well. -Brett

[@ChainMiles777]

Well it does for me.

[@usun_politics1033]

Do what is necessary. Be a spark.

[@CognitiveDissident.]

My Mom cheated on my Dad and divorced him when I was very young, the courts made him pay her for taking me 1500 miles away, where she put me in preschool and daycare for 10 hours a day, while she pursued her career, hobbies and relationships at full speed. I spent about 95% of my formative years with strangers who had no vested interest in me, or sitting in front of a TV. Most of my far distant family acted like I didn't exist, which never changed. Mom expected me to make sacrifices that she felt no one else should have to make, including herself, her boyfriends, her husbands or their kids. The step kids have grown up to be very successful, and never even had to move away from home or switch schools when their parents got divorced. They were treated like their feelings mattered, because step dad insisted on it. I got to give up my school and my friends and move to their location, so they could avoid those losses. When I was a teenager, Mom started asking me why I was so angry. Me eating shit was supposed to be normal and acceptable to me. That was before I went to "reform school" for over a year at 14 for stealing a car and trying to drive across the country to be with my Dad. I made it about 500 miles before I got caught shoplifting food. I only ever felt close to one young lady in my life, looking back I can see she really didn't like me much. I can't blame her, to be honest. After she left, I managed to go to college after getting my GED, but couldn't deal with the corporate career lifestyle that path led me into. I started not caring about my life much, once I realized I wasn't interested in being a tax slave or marrying someone I didn't find attractive, which seemed to be my realistic choices at the time. 25 years later I had to explain it all in detail for my Mom to even remember most of the abuse and neglect, at which point the story she had always told me about her childhood changed completely, from being a great life in the country with her 4 sisters and lifelong friends, to a horrible lonely existence where the friends and family disappeared. This was her justification for treating me like an accessory, instead of a son. All the sudden she knew what she was doing all along, and could explain why that seemed like a normal thing to her. Of course, she didn't notice this contradiction. My experience may be on the more egregious side, but it's far from the worst I've heard, and far from unique. I struggle with lack of motivation, self loathing, and loneliness on a daily basis. The only person still alive that cares about any of it, is my Dad, and he's an elderly man who's been depressed for almost 50 years, after watching my childhood go up in flames. When Dad passes away, I will have no one to care for, and no one that cares about me. I will probably end myself at that time. No point in any more suffering, in my opinion. I have no questions about why men are checking out of this culture in high percentages. Many of us have no purpose, and have failed to succeed at most of our serious endeavors. The statistics tell the same story over and over. Sadly, the collapse of our society is as close as I've ever come to feeling like I belong to anything. I spent most of my life feeling like no one could understand my pain, but now I know I was among many men who are/were disposable.

[@danieldavis8607]

Thank you for telling your story. I'm so sad that happened to you. I find the only thing that motivates me these days is escapism. Reading, watching movies, playing vidya. Every serious endeavor was shot down by family, so all I do now is unserious. I guess I'm not good at anything at all... so I'm just waiting for the end, now. Take care, friend.

[@CognitiveDissident.]

@@danieldavis8607 Thanks for reading my comment. Take care, Daniel.

[@AndrewTheVikings]

Nick Fuentes said in the podcast where he does on saying guess who paid the price for this much sacrifice, it's the kid, which means the mom spent alot of time of herself. I'm sorry you had to go through that man. Your mom should be ashamed of herself for creating this mess in the first place, she should have blame for herself and accept her accountability. But there is one thing she did right though is you, you exist. To add more, if there is no men in this planet, that means its the end of women and its the end of human civilization.

[@princessmarlena1359]

@@CognitiveDissident. my sympathies. This is a prime example of why men have had it with a rotten world that treats them like trash and abandons them. And we all know what anyone who does this gets…

[@casusolivas]

You can still find purpose in life and someone to care for, maybe finding a boy that is currently struggling like you did and bbe the support your didnt have, maybe that would give you the courage to also look for a purpose and be happy with life again... wish you the best bro.

[@sdozer1990]

I don't want to call it "Men's rights" but we need to not lie here. Feminists have had a LOT of victories and now, maybe because of those victories and maybe not, there is a serious 'gender gap' in corrections, education, family life, mental health, and non-STEM employment. We need to rethink the male role in society and family and encourage young men to seek good friends, mentors, and role models (especially if they don't have a father around as much).

[@egg_2705]

This is a great mindset that I wish more people had. It's great that as women we have more rights, and still there are areas where we could make improvements. But I often feel genuine concern about the men in my life. Mostly because "mens rights" movements don't aim to make life better for men. They want women to return to the subjugated life they used to have so that men can have a semblance of power and authority, and continue feeling like their lives are happy, instead of trying to combat issues that men have always had (mental health, fathers being considered inferior to mothers, higher rates of incarceration, schooling methodologies being less efficient for boys, etc). These issues didn't start now, they've always been there.

[@myfacern7232]

@@egg_2705 Your perspective on men's rights is warped by feminism. A lot of what you might believe of people who support MRA like myself is probably wrong. Basically, 3rd wave radical feminism destroyed men's rights. Men's rights activism was originally a progressive left leaning movement which branched out from feminism and only wished to bring up the problems of men to light. Instead, the feminists at the time ostracized us and pushed us away presenting to academia and the media only the radical right-wing MRAs. That's why now, instead of having lots of well-meaning MRAs getting platforms we have guys like Andrew Tate and all those red pill and black pill guys etc. Feminists ceded men's issues to the right-wing because they'd rather reinforce the aspects of patriarchy that allow them to keep their victim status while reaping all the rewards of feminism instead of actually striving for a better society. This is also why hatred of men is also so socially accepted now. You might advocate for positive changes to happen for men, but I guarantee you any positive push for men in society will be met with overwhelming pushback from feminists in academia. If you'd like a better understanding of the actual positions of MRAs here is a link to the reddit: www.reddit.com/r/rbomi/wiki/main/#wiki_not_all_is_great_in_the_world_of_men.3A_a_reference_book_of_men.27s_issues

[@notthething9531]

@@egg_2705 you don’t know what your talking about

[@afriend_ofthefamily3602]

​@@egg_2705 well said

[@KellieEverts--conductsNightTra]

Women will eventually take over & create Matriarchy. Kali Yuga, the evil age, is at an end. Women will lead the family & the world, men will obey. Men will be the helpmates they were supposed t be. The world will now straighten out, unjust laws will be revoked, there will be NO MORE WAR. In time, it will all be made right by women & the Mother God.

[@DomingosCJM]

The solution of placing boys a year later is absurd, boys should have separeted classes in the first years of their life, with more man teaching them.

[@TechWeLove]

Yup separated classes would help men, but also changing the divorce laws, so that the marriage breaker only gets 30% of marital assets.

[@jackdeniston59]

Insanity. Will f up smart men even more. Only thing I suggest. Convince 10% of politicians to admit and publicly state the wage gap is a LIE. Actually achievable. Do that for 5 years.

[@DomingosCJM]

@@jackdeniston59 Not the fact in Brazil, here the best school is only for boys.

[@joshrobinson506]

They ignore the elephant in the room. Men are treated horrifically on most campuses. If they don't have family support or a strong social support group forget graduating. I had multiple classes were woman where shown overwhelming bias by professors and administration. Going so far as to exclude me from grading curves so that girls could get a higher average. In subjective grading I would be given a c on written papers that were clearly an a while my study partner was given an a on papers that weren't even complete. Woman ate not better at academics. The academic world had become so systemically sexist that most men don't stand a chance.

[@CaliforniaFarmGirl]

As a college professor, I am so sorry teachers have treated you that way. It’s wrong. Men need to start doing lawsuits over this type of discrimination.

[@praisekek181]

@@CaliforniaFarmGirl hahahaha, yeah try that, put your job on the line

[@schaeffercox3158]

The elephant in the room is that all these men refuse to stand on the word of God. If they truly believe that there is no God, and that all men are just random chemical reactions, this entire conversation and comments section is pointless. They are just chemicals off gassing. Why does the fizzing of these chemicals even matter?

[@MrNoobed]

I talked to teacher about my bad grade on a paper and there was a woman next to me that got an A, so the teacher made her show me her paper and it was practically indecipherable word salad. My fellow student seemed to be aware of this and she felt very nervous about her A instead of being proud of it. The teacher never did explain why she gave me a C and her an A

[@Weirdomanification]

Woman do have higher in group bias, but I doubt that the corruption is as pervasive as you say.

[@shanesmith5198]

Society is falling apart before our eyes

[@eddenoy321]

Keep strong and carry on, both brothers and sisters. We are all human.

[@mandelahyacinthe9453]

but they just said that women are doing better, society is not going to scramble, it's just going to move on and strive without men

[@poopsmith6853]

​@mandelahyacinthe9453 I'll believe it when women start shoveling the crap, programming the robots, and working 60 hours a week at something that isn't the medical field or make busy work. 90% of women couldn't even do their mostly useless jobs without men keeping the world running. When women 'strike' the only thing men notice is more work gets done.

[@unknowninfinium4353]

You know the reason, you know the cause. You wont say it.

[@usfslk]

Nobody brings the fact that men build and maintain society it really piss me off

[@someone-ji2zb]

Probably because as of october, 51% of all workers in the US are female. Even if you are correct, it is hard to make that call when men are dropping out of the workforce like flies.

[@usfslk]

@@someone-ji2zb that’s some stupid bs, men are doing the jobs that maintain society

[@someone-ji2zb]

@@usfslk Agreed, but I was just giving you a big reason why no one takes this talking point seriously, and it is because women make up the majority of the workforce.

[@hugh2hoob668]

​@@someone-ji2zbThere's more women in general dummy and Women work lame desk jobs most times

[@hugh2hoob668]

​​@@usfslkHis stats are stupid cause in general there's MORE women on earth period

[@VangelVe]

The problem with college degrees comes down to the fact that many are not just useless but counterproductive. What matters is the requirement for someone to have one, and men are less likely to spend the time and money needed to get something that does not really deal with teaching valuable skills or educating students.

[@zg-it]

I learned more in a couple months on the job that I did in a few years at the university. It was an expensive way to extend my adolescence.

[@Ultroumbonee]

And when you ask an employer why they require a degree over experience in the job; their not sure how to answer why, but they still need it.

[@zg-it]

@@Ultroumbonee hopefully that's changing, I'm currently hiring for my biz and I couldn't care less about a degree... I'd actually prefer someone that doesn't have a degree.

[@Ultroumbonee]

@@zg-it you said you work in tech right? Would you hire some with certs, and a portfolio as opposed to a computer science degree?

[@zg-it]

@@Ultroumbonee it depends what I'm hiring them for, I do general it so right now I would be looking for someone who is simply intelligent and motivated. If you're looking to get a specific job doing a specific thing in computer science, the certs are useful.

[@RKBrumbelow]

You can only denigrate a group for so long before they start to believe you and live down to your expectations

[@Jimraynor45]

Try saying that about the Jews. At the end of day, your success is more dependent on your own actions that it is of others. To believe otherwise is to think of yourself as merely a slave or a puppet.

[@lurple]

Yeah, cuz just look at women.

[@RealLifeIronMan]

@@Jimraynor45 I get the sentiment, but the success of the Jewish community came down to just that; they where and are a unified community that watches out for each other and uplift each other to greater heights. Men as a community are nowhere nearly so unified.

[@danielplainview6527]

Well, it’s also about the constant current of damage inflicted on boys and men. Men’s taxes are used to undermine them. Their jobs undermine them. Their relationships undemonstrative them. Their own parents undermine them (e.g. try to convince them to become girls). Then, everyone else gets propped up. So… they’re battling everything, which consumes a great deal of resources just to tred water.

[@Weirdomanification]

Clean your room

[@oatisb.driftwood8513]

I fell ill from an infected skull in 2010. If Doctors, employer, lawyer, family and friends would have opened their ears the 1st time, I wouldn't still be sitting here in 2023 still trying to recover. I see very much where I stand. They all cry about me not working. But none of them did any thing to ensure I could get back to work in a timely manner. As far as I'm concerned, they are all getting what they have asked for. You give nothing, you get nothing. I have a serious disgust at society. Tired of being around a bunch of brain washed people, due to Government brain washing. This is a very fake world.

[@someone-ji2zb]

Yea men are done. Most men dreamed of finding a wife someday. The natural motivation was to prepare yourself to be a man who can provide for a family. Well how many years has it been now where men have been completely stripped of all hope of ever finding a woman? No motivation for a lot of guys right now, because there is no hope of finding a woman. I think that part of it is fairly simple. Today's generation of new adult men were raised to be weak, and woman don't like weak men. Yet men cannot become strong without a purpose; no hope leads to no drive to find purpose.

[@eddenoy321]

Why can't men be trained to be motivated to improve themselves for the purpose of their own survival ? There are many men who actually do this. Wife and family may or may not come and they are ok with that.

[@someone-ji2zb]

@@eddenoy321 I may have been a bit hyperbolic with wording, but I was speaking on generalities, or at least that was my intention. You say "they" are ok with that, but it is very clear that the vast majority of men still desire to build a family and work towards that goal and that becomes their purpose. It is a natural desire for most people to have. People are not fine with what is happening in general, and that is crystal clear given people's attitudes, suicide rates, economic status and overall demeanor regarding the future.

[@eddenoy321]

@@someone-ji2zb Well , if you look back to the post war era, bachelors were quite common for whatever the reason. And when those guys got into their 50's no one ever pressed them or tried to fix them up. Some of them had gfs, some just lived with a family member or alone. They were all quite well off. There was no drama , bellyaching, or moaning about it. It just seemed like a normal part of the social landscape. If you ever have the opportunity to speak with an oldie, you will understand. One difference is today gfs might try to sue you for palimony a la Lee Marvin , the actor, but he was rich and famous....so a target.

[@catctus9508]

I don't agree family isn't important anymore if you're not rich. it's time for mgtow if men need wife just passport bro western women are dead and waste time to make family.

[@myrasmama]

For some reason I feel like when they moved our good jobs and Industry out of this country it rendered people jobless who were taking care and providing for their families and in turn left a void.

[@andrewkerr5296]

Who is they? The Sheep voted for all the unaffordable Entitlements & were not willing to increase their productivity

[@Jimraynor45]

They weren't good jobs, it was essentially busywork that isn't strictly necessary . I would say the issue has more to do with the stagnant economy caused by the federal reserve and cultural changes.

[@sanniepstein4835]

@@Jimraynor45 Manufacturing is busywork?

[@ShunyamNiketana]

To call it "busy work" is to show your age. Men supported families, paid mortgages, and lived a middle- or lower-middle class life on the back of jobs like these. Automation and off-shoring have taken all of these jobs.

[@myrasmama]

@@Jimraynor45 even though I agree I don't consider General Motors busy work.

[@stormchaser419]

Who ends up paying for those women getting their college degrees? Men. The women get married and have a kid and then the husband ends up having to pick up the tuition bill. This happens more often than not.

[@justpray365]

Or they cry and whine like AOC and want the government to pay for the worthless college degree they find themselves with.

[@stevenscott2136]

Can't really blame that on government or "society" -- those men are fools. Marrying an indebted or spendthrift woman has always been foolish -- my grandfather was warned against it a century ago when he started looking for a wife.

[@wesley6442]

that's exactly what my best friend did for his wife, he decided it was incumbent upon himself to pay her way through school.. for this trend, it is why I think relationships/marriage are a joke and not in favor of men at all

[@trapaneezus]

Imagine paying for some chicks tuition only for her to end up leaving 😂

[@stryker5673]

That's why men should start putting a priority on filtering women with student loan debt. It was one of my requirements for my wife. Don't get married to someone with enormous debt.

[@noneyun9943]

Let’s not forget tht at employers are required to hire women and minorities, and if you can hire boTh with the same hire than bonus. As an employer, I’ve had to interview the women before the men because we do work that requires we meet a quota.

[@WalnutOW]

Quotas like that should be illegal

[@torch_fire9218]

You should refuse to participate in such sexism.

[@benjamindover4337]

@@torch_fire9218 it is the law. Employers have to cooperate.

[@ShunyamNiketana]

None Yun ~ What field are you in?

[@philobetto5106]

@@WalnutOW How... dar' you! 'How... dar' you! pee-pole are suffering! pee-pole are lying... I mean dying How... dar' you! my pronouns are, man. bro, bruh, dude, guy, and Dick

[@mike8595]

Why do I feel like so many people memory-holed the fact that we changed the education system to cater to the ways in which girls learn and tightened the belt on rough play among boys?

[@nikeisagreekgoddess4135]

When did that happen?

[@teebone2157]

I do not agree. Both have equal access but women are more critical thinkers which education now requires

[@arash8761]

@@teebone2157 Not really, education requires more conformity, which women are generally better at.

[@Smolfloofs]

@@arash8761 Nope we haven't changed anything and academia has always been more suited for women since the start, we didn't see it earlier because women didn't go to college earlier. It's in the book, "of men and boys" read it. Richard also encourages vocational training and more male teachers.

[@dougmasters4561]

Because when feminists took over, the perfect boy was one that acts like girls so they dont want to admit that to curtail education they essentially had to discriminate against natural, healthy, age appropriate male behavior. Because the answer to your question would require them to admit to bigotry and sexism.

[@angelmarauder5647]

"this is a family program" Next sentence "Nobody wants to f*** them" Lol

[@jameslee-dp6cb]

You cant remove the moral compass of a nation without these things happen. No fault divorce has been devastating to our society. Smart men are getting out of this nation. If i were younger, i would join them. If the nation wants to declare a war on men, Im going somewhere that men are valued.

[@stormchaser419]

Marriage with a state contract is one of the most foolish things a man can do. More men are coming to this conclusion. Why don't know we mention this.

[@joseeduardo4327]

Interesting. Also a large concern when the Dad bails on his kids because there isn’t even a legal obligation now. Then the kids are a mess cause their father figure sucked

[@222ableVelo]

I agree. We need to retract no-fault divorce laws. I think divorce is one of the biggest contributions to societal decay. There needs to be some sort of punishment (and shame) brought to people who either divorce for no reason, or cheat on their spouses.

[@jokesyfuntime4898]

@@joseeduardo4327 you have to pay child support whether you were married or not.

[@HickYankee]

It's so funny how women are constantly whining "there are no good men - none want to take responsibility" - I used to teach high school and college - young men were always telling me they saw had bad marriage went for their own fathers, and how women are today, so they aren't getting married or having kids. They say there is no benefit to marriage and kids and tons of cost and danger. It's not irresponsibility that keeps them from marital and family commitment - it's cold hard rational, empirical, objectivity.

[@mrcastle5805]

Most men get driven out of the house by the mother , with help from the government. And we just call them dead beat dads. Or they weren’t ready for children but the mother decided otherwise . I think we’re placing the blame on the wrong parent a lot of the time .

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

Keep in mind that hypergamy means "successful" career women will be disgusted by more and more men.

[@georgeandrews2839]

When society tells you that you are the root of all evils, why work for it???

[@theroamingsavage8813]

Odd that were more than willing to mandate female quotas in male dominated fields (engineering, firefighting, police) which in fact entails limiting or straight out discriminating against male applicants, but when trying to enact a policy to employ more male teachers in K-12 oh we wouldnt DREAM of demanding quotas to the opposite!

[@FEV369]

You nailed it...

[@user-xp7tc3ol5k]

It hard. If we mandate men in K-12, this will draw all the pedos in. Men are just sexually perverted by nature. Stats show 30% of men have sexually assaulted a woman. Having men around helpless kids isn't a good idea. And society knows it, so it doesn't advocate for it.

[@alanlight7740]

Not that men really want those positions - not because they don't want to teach, but because I ran the numbers once and thanks to false accusations it's more dangerous for a man to be a teacher than to be an infantryman in Iraq.

[@theflamingone8729]

Men have shocking health outcomes and are under represented in healthcare work. Fixing the latter would correct the former, to some extent.

[@wrendum286]

Men are unable to fill the 95% quotas in male dominated fields? Aww so sad.

[@dmsalomon]

It's hard for me to relate because I went to a boys only elementary and high school. I'd be very curious to see statistics on how that affects the learning development, given that wasn't mentioned in the talk.

[@BradZook]

Did you check out the Q & A afterwards? It was addressed there.

[@jones2277]

someone asked it during the Q&A.

[@hitandruncommentor]

Haven't watched the vid yet, but sex segregation works remarkably well in school especially in high school because the teens aren't trying to mate up.

[@bradleycalkins394]

No, that is entirely wrong. The problem on both sides is that you view men only as utilities, not as people, hence your statement that infrastructure projects "help" men. They don't, they USE us. They use us to pave their roads and build their bridges, but that is not helping us. Rather than being grateful for the services you receive, you instead expect those who serve you be grateful that they can serve. The left, the right and you are all the same, you differ only in what you expect to be the best way to be served by others, but ultimately that is all any of you care about. Decades of rising suicide rate were fine, "women are the primary victims of war" was fine, the Supreme Court of Canada deciding that discrimination against men does not violate the Charter of Rights and Freedoms was fine, compulsory military service was fine, Korean men being forbidden from using their compulsory military service as work experience when job hunting was fine, fathers being cast out of their families was fine. The only thing that was ever a problem was for the services these men are expected to provide to be compromised. That is the problem, and until that changes none of you are worthy of the service that you all so vociferously feel entitled to.

[@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist]

Compulsory military service in Korea not listable as work experience? That's a new one. When was this a thing? Legit curious. I couldn't find any English stories on this with multiple search engines. Any links or keywords you can point to? Sounds interesting…

[@iamaronman]

Exactly, they took all the benefits for blue collar men that are the backbone of the maintenance of the infrastructure and the economy. Like finding a wife and starting a family, good luck with that with the state of dating now. Owning a home and some land, well we don't have families anymore why buy a giant house that you have to work harder to pay off. It's not really a shock that men are pulling back when all that seems to happen for these men is having something else ripped away from him.

[@mipiace2504]

I explain to my sons and daughters history, femminism, human nature, and the tendency in humans to discriminate. Also, we discuss family court, the intrusion of the state in marriage, the cultural push to destroy the family. I also teach them about title 9 in college and the abandonment of due process. I tach my daughters and sons to be rationale. I then look at my daughters and explain to them the scholarship opportunities available to them. I tell them to go to college, study hard, get a great career. Because for them this is rational. Then I look at my young sons that our culture accuses them of being too powerful, wealthy, and mysogony (I have to explain what that means because they are young). I tell them no scholarships are available for them due to their gender. Also, if they invest years in college that can be destroyed by an aggressive woman who makes certain accusations so college is not a rational choice. After brainstorming I tell them the rational choice is to stay home, live simply, and play video games. It is not rational to sacrifice for a culture that hates them. It is women’s turn to be strong and powerful and consequently die young. It is men’s turn to relax and enjoy. What an interesting culture.

[@poladelarosa8399]

An exceptional interview. A wealth of information clearly put forth. Thank you.

[@robbytheartist3997]

I was held back an extra year in 1st grade and it was the best thing that ever happened to me! It does work, but I'm not sure that it would work for all boys. It's was my aunt idea ( I was adopted) and I was so damn immature. 10 years later I graduated top 10 of my class. I even went to college and got my dental hygienist cert. I'm looking to become a dentist next.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

well good for you Robby, that's a mighty objectve self-statement to observe about yourself. And when can we start calling you Robby the Dentist?

[@robbytheartist3997]

@@robertmaybeth3434 in 2 years.

[@mattschroeder3432]

me too 1st grade it helped. congratulations hope you do great

[@eddenoy321]

Good on ya mate.

[@daniellegler4011]

This was really depressing. Thanks Reason.

[@eddenoy321]

Well they are re-hashing what has been said for over 30-40 yrs. There isn't much new.

[@dre6289]

The young woman I know with a degree also never miss a chance to remind you they have a degree

[@houseofhas9355]

But she has a PH'd.

[@josepheridu3322]

Women are very performative. They do stuff to "prove" they can rather to actually make something useful.

[@hugh2hoob668]

Degrees in crap fields like social work

[@dre6289]

@@hugh2hoob668 no, future crap degrees, like accounting.

[@mistergoodcitizen9914]

But men don’t care about a woman’s accomplishments because we don’t look to you for survival.

[@andrewkerr5296]

I live in Australia & I refused to comply with Societal norms & did not go to University. I hated School as it was highly favorable to Females, I barely scraped through School & finished up with a C average. Now 36, own 2 Houses earn $150k AUD a year NO STUDENT DEBT. I'm going on Dates with 25 year old women who are in $45,000+ in Student Debt for BS degree's As far as I'm concerned, let Women have Academia & enjoy the Decline

[@SILVERONIN]

Based comment 💪

[@brianmeen2158]

I understand that mindset and I really have no advice for young guys today aside from build your own wealth and stay away from marriage

[@Keithjames153]

@@SILVERONIN shout out to you for dating 25yr olds at 36.. I’m 27 (doing decently well for myself) and I tell myself that I’ll be able to get all the 23-27yds that I can’t get now when I’m in my mid 30s lol.. hope that’s true!!

[@daniella8400]

@@Keithjames153 😂😂 even at that age we still wouldn’t want you, it’s the money you earn not you. Once a lame, always a lame. Money never changes that, you’ll then just having women using you and laughing at you with her friends. All of you men are a joke, we don’t take any of you serious, regardless of age or success. Look at how you speak about us ,we’re not dumb like our grandmothers & mothers!

[@willhelmberkly3025]

They are planning to take everything you own.

[@sunso1991]

What are men here for? Men are the protectors and risk taker for the family. When a society becomes safe and wealthy, men are not really needed, but just imagine if tomorrow you wake up and there has been an EMP attack, no power, no internet, no phone, no more police to come to the rescue and no more food coming to the grocery store. Would single women do better or women with boyfriends or husbands? Men are like roosters, most of us would put ourselves in grave danger to help our families. Put in very long hours and heavy manual labor to put food on the table. Or do very unsavory things if that's what's nessasary to provide for family

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

Now that we know women don't love us, what is there to motivate us to continue "providing" then? Sex is good but the emotional side of me cannot accept women knowing they would abandon me instantly because they see me as a tool not a human being.

[@jimsimpson1006]

But the family is all but dead and “there’s nothing a man can do that a woman can’t do at least as well, if not better”, according to a certain high-ranking person. Therefore, no reason for us men to give a shit anymore. Let it burn. We’re out.

[@VangelVe]

Bad answer, my friend. Men are essential now and `if there are emergencies. Look at our roads, bridges, and buildings. They were built by men. The spires in our Cathedrals were built by men. Most of the breakthroughs in mathematics, physics, and any discipline that requires intellectual rigour came from men. But there is no war between men and women. They need each other to form family units, raise children, and improve society. Most people get that. The loud voices at the extremes are miserable and want more people to be like them. They do not see humans as being noble rational creatures made in God's image. They see humans as stomachs that compete for resources. They are envious and sow division. Sadly, we stand to fall for their tricks and get emotional when rationality is in order.

[@VangelVe]

@@jimsimpson1006 I am not sure you really want that, my friend. I can assure you that the family is not dead, and there are good women worth marrying. You may have to look hard and move around to find one, but they are there. If I may make a suggestion, you should look up the Letters of Tolkien in which he tells his son Michael that what you need in a marriage parter is a companion in a shipwreck. That makes sense to me. We need to find the person with who you could live with if we find ourselves on an island without any others around. Note that Tolkien's advice would rule out almost all of the feminist harpies because few could tolerate their company for long.

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

@@VangelVe Why is marriage the end all be all? What is it about that document/contract that we think is necessary to start and maintain families?

[@abcdefghi9]

I am a final year medical student and 2 months away from completion. It was extreemly difficult to get to this point 80% of my class is female and i'm very sure that at least 40% of the males are dl homosexuals. As a straight male its extreemly difficult to progress in university. Mens best bet is to walk away from it all and learn trades, save your money and be very selective with who you date, because they can end up losing everything you work for. Saving , investing, and mastery of the trades is imperative for young men.

[@ARR409]

Why’s it difficult for guys to progress through university and not for women in your opinion?

[@abcdefghi9]

@@ARR409 It starts long before college age(18 years). Lack of positive male role models, disreguard of boys and their education by teachers(mostly females) who caters to mostly female students, abuse, early exposure to gangs as the only masculine influence, all pulls boys away from higher education.There is a documentry by Dr Antonio Webb, on his struggles growing up before becoming a doctor.Thankfully he was able to escape the pitfalls and traps so many boy fall into.

[@thagrandpubah]

@@ARR409 Because the faculty and most of the western world hates men.

[@mandelahyacinthe9453]

Women are doing trades now too, and more money being poured into their ESTEM education and vocation school. Women will keep striving with or without men

[@abcdefghi9]

@@mandelahyacinthe9453 lets be honest here, thats not true. Maybe 1% of women may be able to do the dirty work men do. Look at the survivor island documentry by bear grills between man and women.

[@BigJoeMufferaw784]

I listened to 2 minutes and I already heard everything I needed to hear "we made incredible progress with gender equality and girls" and made incredible progress beating down every males dreams and aspirations all this gender equality and feminism is the reason men are checking out of life

[@jordanneedscoffee]

I don't think equality is the problem though. The problem, is women don't want "equality", or at least feminists don't. They still want the benefits of being a woman on top of the benefits of being a man. They want to be exempt from being drafted, they want people to feel bad for them and help them when they're struggling, they want doors held for them. They want to be first on the beautiful Titanic when it sets sail and first off when it sinks. They want their problems catered to before men's problems, AND they also want the freedom and authority of an adult male, as if they're on equal footing with the man who crawled out of a hole of lonely despair and poverty into greatness through skill, effort and willpower all while society is attacking them for doing so. Women have support groups, systems that cater to them both governmental and social (hey divorce courts), they're trying to play the man and the woman's role. You can't have it all, society collapses. If you want "equality" you have to eliminate the positives, not just the negatives. You don't get to be someone who is catered to AND ALSO be someone who leads others and is respected by all. Things like authority and respect are earned, not given. Our society doesn't seem to recognize that. When we presume they aren't and build a society like we have today it puts women at an advantage and men just say ok then fuck society.

[@BinaryMekhanika]

I felt like the npc crowd was about to start applauding right after he said that

[@jimsimpson1006]

Nothing more depressing than listening to male feminist wet flannels. Feminist ideology has produced an awful lot of them, sadly.

[@trolley2327]

It's not as bad ... Just ignore a few things and it's okay mostly

[@jimsimpson1006]

@@trolley2327 what do you mean?

[@zinjanthropus322]

Maybe instead of forcing the boys to start a year later leading them to be behind girls their age, why not just have a separate boys education track? Just because they're immature doesn't mean there aren't useful things they're capable of learning in that time.

[@RazorRamonMachismo]

Imagine if they start performing better than the girls just imagine and you will have your answer

[@Mark_o_Helm]

Yeah. We're done, giving a crap.😁

[@andrewkerr5296]

Yep Bang on

[@brianmeen2158]

What do you guys think of religion? I’m not religious but it seems like religion helped many men stay on course so to speak in the past. Gave them strong values and sense of purpose.

[@andrewkerr5296]

@@brianmeen2158 I'm an Atheist

[@Mark_o_Helm]

@@brianmeen2158 strong values for war and male superiority and the purpose of suppressing other religions, sexualities and beliefs. No thanks.😁

[@poopsmith6853]

​@@brianmeen2158fertile young women with no previous partners and the chance at a plot of land, that's the only way you get men back.

[@veronicakelly4261]

Women wouldn't be "working" outside the home, if they weren't forced, by taxing or paying more for a home than one wage covered, and government policy is all focused upon all adults working. Bring down house prices, and rid of unnecessary jobs, it gives people free time, to love each other, bring back the time to share and enjoy our peace together...

[@jones2277]

they never really loved each other. they just stuck together for survival. the DV rates were through the roof. the temperance movement started bc so many miserable men were getting wasted and then beating their wives and kids, sometimes killing them.

[@aouna9412]

37:36 that’s no different from yelling at your daughter asking “why can’t you be as strong as your brother?”😂

[@aboringsandwich]

There is no right in America that men enjoy that women do not... women have extra privileges and protections and less responsibilities... circumcision, choosing parenthood after conception, being the assumed caregiver of their child at birth, being able to call unwanted or coerced sex 'rape', not having to agree to die for your country in order to vote... everyone talks about the wage gap but not many discuss the workplace death gap... men are being left behind and told that they are privileged...

[@aboringsandwich]

A day without any women showing up for work would result in a few thousand people missing nurses in rural areas... a day with no men going to work would result in societal collapse...

[@Scar-jg4bn]

@@aboringsandwich you clearly know nothing about the landscape of healthcare in America if you think that; sincerely, a nurse.

[@FEV369]

Men helped build a world to help females, not themselves... it's literally that simple.

[@someone-ji2zb]

Yea, the simple reality is that many men of this, and the last generation have no hope to find a woman to marry. Whether that be because they themselves have 'failed' or because women have extreme standards doesn't change the fact that when a man knows he has 0 hope to find someone, then he has no motivation to succeed. So with no one to help, there is only a couple choices left to make. Die alone into your old age, or end it yourself as soon as possible? Seems like more and more men are choosing to end it themselves as time goes on. Whether that be suicide or death through alcoholism or doing drugs... it is all the same at the end of the day.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yup

[@quidnick]

Why did I expect the libertarian CNN to show empathy for the plight of men today? Waste of time.

[@eddenoy321]

Libertarians are mostly men if you didn't know.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yuup

[@TheFirstTriplefife]

He makes some good points when he points at the differences in biology. Yet, he completely misses out on all the social environmental implications that are cutting boys short and empowering girls at every turn. Older school records show that before schools were reformed to cater to girls, boys steam rolled girls at every angle.

[@brianmeen2158]

Reeves never brings this up for some reason. Hmm

[@sunso1991]

I am lucky to be born in December, which made me enroll in school a calender year later, and when I came to America, I further got delayed by another year attending language school. By the time I entered American middle school, I was 21 months older than the youngest peer. And I crushed every single subject and sports.

[@nikeisagreekgoddess4135]

When were these reforms applied to the education system?

[@HonkHonkler]

I REALLY don't like Richard Reeves or discussions on this, it's always kind of played for laughs at the expense of me: _"Hahahahaha! Dumb men, you're doing bad and were always worse than women ahahahaha! Just be more like women and you'll be happy ahahahahaha!"_ Ignoring the DECADES of feminist conditioning & single motherhood that's been placed on boys to condition them out of being ambitious, masculine, confident etc. What's the point of doing well in school, that isn't structure to how I learn or working soulless system that only exists because they need our physical labor to maintain it? For a brainwashed feminist woman who's been ran through by 50 men most her life that settles for you and cheats on you with the same men that broke her in the first place, gets pregnant and convinces you that you're the father to pay for it? There's no longer any incentives for men to do literally ANYTHING or be good humans anymore. I know I don't feel any obligation to help society or women and now have taken a great joy in seeing both slowly falling apart lol. I want to see society crumble and women even more miserable than they let on, I want is all to burn.

[@MrRandyFlaggTDM]

uh yeah before they catered to girls they catered to boys, so of course it served them better

[@alanlight7740]

Speaking of homework - decades of research has yet to find ANY benefit to students from doing homework. It's just busy work, and if anything turns a lot of students against education. Our school system tends to reward an ability to take in what the teacher says and spit it back out, and following instructions. Girls tend to be better at those tasks, but those tasks are almost opposed to an ability to test hypotheses and see whether they are correct or not - and frequently in opposition to creative or independent thinking. An ability to absorb information, consider it, and come up with new insights is not only not rewarded by our school system, it is frequently punished. Which is all to say, grades don't really mean much outside STEM. There's a reason why people who are notably successful in business tend to have been C students when they were in school.

[@shemaths1668]

Homework was meant to be a punishment not mandatory tool for learning.

[@usun_politics1033]

The hell you are talking about? Homework teaches you to handle work routine by yourself, the most important skill at workplace.

[@alanlight7740]

@@usun_politics1033 - you know what teaches that even better? Actual work. Actual, meaningful work rather than busy work.

[@usun_politics1033]

@@alanlight7740 the purpose of school to put those habits into a child from early age. by the time they enter the workforce - it's too late to teach them fundamental behavioral things

[@alanlight7740]

@@usun_politics1033 - no, the purpose of public schools is to prevent the public from becoming educated enough to be a threat to the powers that be. In the words of John D. Rockefeller, who funded much of the work of forcing Americans into public schools, "I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers." Or as H.L. Mencken famously put it, "The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all; it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed a standard citizenry, to put down dissent and originality." But like I said, if you really want children to learn and adopt good work habits, LET THEM WORK. What we've got right now is the worst of both worlds.

[@stormchaser419]

Let's talk about all the debt women are racking up with all these college degrees and how man end up paying for them. Let's talk about all the consumer debt women are racking up and expecting men in marriage to pick up their debts. This video was bereft of many issues.

[@Adam13Chalmers]

Can you point to some data to help get the conversation started?

[@Gary_oldmans_left_nut]

That consumer debt argument is soo stupid(sometimes). I saw some loser claiming that women hold all the financial power because they make all the consumer decisions. Shopping is a choir like any other. Men don't want to be picking up the food or the clothes for the kids so women generally do it. Anyway not sure if that was even what your getting at so ignore me if it wasn't. I havnt heard anything about women racking up more unwanted debt in relationships, you got a stat on that?

[@qb4428]

@@Adam13Chalmers Over 75% of all student debt is held by women.

[@Adam13Chalmers]

@@qb4428 Thanks you(source?) And what percent of that is paid by men?

[@stevenscott2136]

@@Adam13Chalmers Since the only practical response by men is "don't take on any debt from a woman", does it really matter? The men dumb enough to do that get what they deserve.

[@Gotchatwice]

I’m a machinist for the last 10 years but I’ve been thinking about dropping out it’s about time for women to start working and taking control of everything I’ll just stay at home!

[@AndrewTheVikings]

yeah, just wait and watch what happens when they work on labor fields, it's going to be an embarrassing for them. Time to pick up some popcorns.

[@ravenwhiteduck6460]

that's a dumb idea

[@acausevic1]

Men no longer have to marry or provide for a family. There isn’t a real necessity to work as hard as men once did. A single man can work little and afford everything they need to life a comfortable life. No need to go above and beyond when you have no wife or kids to take care of. The system was structured in such a way.

[@CaryHawkins]

Aren't those 4-year college degrees, on average, worth significantly less though?

[@DanielBjorndahl]

Would be better to look at college graduate earnings, by gender

[@VangelVe]

@@Bayo106 I think a kid who went through a three-month course to be an electrical apprentice will find a good job faster than someone with a gender studies degree and will make a lot more money on net over a lifetime of working. What you have written is true for someone in mathematics, physics, or engineering but not for people who took English but did not have to read Shakespeare or people who took history but learned it from fools who are activists rather than scholars.

[@filmjazz]

Can we at the very least all agree that in light of all these facts, the next time there’s a sinking ship we can finally dispense with the outdated “women and children first” tradition?

[@filmjazz]

@@CryptoZone295 no thanks, scammer. comment reported to the youtube stasi.

[@zinjanthropus322]

I'd be up for a children first only system.

[@Shlogger]

@@zinjanthropus322 equal rights and all that...

[@filmjazz]

@@zinjanthropus322 How about families first? Kids aren't going to do too well without their parents.

[@zinjanthropus322]

@@filmjazz Statistically kids do better under single fathers than single mothers. So I guess the men get to live and the women can sink with the ship.

[@chris.pbacon440]

The causes of a "crisis of masculinity" or any crisis would necessarily occur in advance of significant material effects! It's very frustraiting that early concerns were and still are so flipantly dismissed, until the damage is already done. This seems to be a pattern for societies. Then again, hind sight is always 20/20.

[@shejmacfyoutuization]

White men, even after 400 years, refuse to acknowledge that oppressing women and Black Americans was damaging.

[@chris.pbacon440]

@@shejmacfyoutuization Actually most white men do acknowledge those issues, especially in the current decade. Try to have more than a toddlers understanding of the world.

[@chris.pbacon440]

@@gymns411 1. You don't know anything about my background, so I dont know why your addressing my ancestors. 2. I can only assume you're responding to the reply I made to somebody else, whose original post you can't see. The video is about all Men. It's not about a particular race. My original comment can apply to any social crisis. 3. You are the problem. Instead of lifting people up you want revenge so that we can all be equal with nothing. How about we give help to everyone who needs it but triage the most in need first. I bet you dont care about what will really make things better. Seems like you just want to get even.

[@PJ-cj4uv]

​@@chris.pbacon440 you don't know that and you haven't met most white men lol

[@chris.pbacon440]

@@PJ-cj4uv Try looking at pew research and the results of local elections. There are alot of surveys and stats available to take an informed position. It's not necessary to know the entire population of white men in the country. It's stupid that a comment about issues facing all men in America, gets derailed into a fight about, are most white men bigoted or masoginist. You all have actual brain worms.

[@kh9242]

Work for what? What are we working toward? What are we working for? Dating and Marriage is impossible given the impact of #MeToo and the current selection pool's unrealistic demands and expectations. The cost of living makes marriage impossible.. Most modern women pride themselves on not having children while others don't consider themselves to be part of any gender or have no idea what a woman even is. So what are men supposed to be working for? There is nothing to look forward to in life, no woman, no children, can't afford a home, can't acquire land, what is the point of it all?

[@daniella8400]

Wow… you need a woman to look forward to life. Why?

[@ReasonAboveEverything]

@daniella8400 Because it is impossible to live for yourself. The suffering of life can not be justified by just doing fun things on your own. You actually need very close relationships to do that. Maybe for few decades its possible but not much longer. And if I can be fine with very little why should I work harder to get more things that give me what? What kind of madness is that. The only reason to do work harder is so that I can give the nice things to someone else who appreciates it.

[@toluene21]

The point is: There is no point(less)

[@kh9242]

@@daniella8400 Purpose, you seriously have to ask?

[@daniella8400]

@@kh9242 yes, I seriously have to ask. As a woman myself and many other women do not feel that way. You can be happy in life without a man/woman

[@dean4714]

Maybe it’s society that has failed men; not men who has failed society.

[@reddirtwalker8041]

When it comes to school all you have to do is look at the HUGE disparity in ADHD diagnosis's between boys and girls. Whether you believe in the ADHD diagnosises or not it is a huge indicator that boys are just wired different than girls and not really made to sit all day in a desk and read. Once people come to terms with this and adjust the learning style I think the boys education and general behaviors will change.

[@jordanneedscoffee]

I don't tend to agree that humans in general, man or woman, are able to learn well that way. Women might be able to handle it better than men overall, but I'd be surprised if an extra 45min of recess and/or gym class didn't do all kids quite a bit of good.

[@mikepowell8611]

Or we could just start whoopin' their asses again.

[@jones2277]

yet they were able to do it for hundreds of years before girls were allowed in their schools.

[@reddirtwalker8041]

@@jones2277 What did those school days really look like though? Did they really sit in a room all day like now or were lessons also done outside. Did all kids get an education or just a few so education was more like tutoring? What was the activity level of the kids when not I'm school? Did they sit around the home and read or were they outside running around?

[@Helaw0lf]

Same thing can be said for autism diagnoses too.

[@WarningStrangerDanger]

This is by design.

[@Jimraynor45]

Or maybe your failure is your own, not some boogeyman.

[@WarningStrangerDanger]

@@Jimraynor45 I'll bite. An individual struggling is an anecdote. Millions of people struggling is a dataset. We can use this dataset to understand trends and make predictions, as well as inform policy and initiatives. For this trend to have been so consistent for so long, but not acted upon while others have been, means this is an acceptable outcome and not a priority.

[@jumbowana]

You don't get to say "Let the market decide" right after shilling for affirmative action.

[@JC-cv3up]

Almost all the managers, controllers, directors and VPs in my finance department are women

[@zuzanazuscinova5209]

Must be affirmative action

[@JG-qt3pn]

I think the daycare scandals of the eighties and nineties scared a generation or two of men away from early education.

[@alanlight7740]

That was part of a broader trend that I have come to believe was deliberately calculated by the social engineers to poison the relations between generations to ensure that men could not pass on traditional culture and practical knowledge to the young. I ran the numbers once and for all practical purposes it is more dangerous for a man to teach in elementary or middle school than to be an infantryman in Iraq.

[@cnrspiller3549]

Thought experiment: background checks will be likely to filter out good men from early years education and care, but will not dissuade paedophiles at all. Evil men who prey on children will not be put off in the slightest by these checks because they are sexually motivated, but an occupation that views every man who wants to want to work with kids with suspicion, will only serve to put off regular, good guys, and so increase the concentration of paedophiles in the profession. Discuss.

[@alanlight7740]

@@cnrspiller3549 - Your thought experiment presumes that pedophiles are "evil men who prey on children". This has the major fault that it is not true. The two categories are distinct and separate, though they sometimes overlap. In fact, back in the 1980s when it was still (just) possible to do almost reasonable research on the topic the findings were quite at odds with this view. It takes some care to read the research of that era as the definitions used seemed to be unique to each project, but if we accept the original definition of a pedophile as an adult who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children, there seems to be no greater danger to children from pedophiles than from non-pedophiles - and possibly substantially _less._ In short, using the criteria in the studies of that era, we might say that somewhere between 20% and 90% of men qualify as "pedophiles" - depending on whether one includes men who _sometimes_ are _somewhat_ attracted to _some_ prepubescent children (chiefly girls), or only those who _generally_ are _more_ sexually attracted to prepubescent girls than they are to women (though they may still be attracted to women). Actually, the relevant studies did not examine attraction to boys so those numbers may be higher. By contrast, using essentially the same methods, other studies of that era found that about 80% of men who sexually molested or assaulted children were _not sexually attracted to children at all._ So, if one uses the lowest figure for pedophiles using that method and adds it to the 80% of child molesters who were not attracted to children at all, you get 100%. That would imply that the limiting case is that pedophiles are no more likely to molest children than non-pedophiles. By contrast, if one uses the 90% figure, that would imply that 80% of child molesters come from just 10% of the male population that are definitely _not_ pedophiles, in which case pedophiles are far less of a threat to children than non-pedophiles. Now this is gleaned from several different studies and the methods used may have been slightly different, so it is difficult to know the exact numbers - but it does give strong evidence that pedophiles are not especially dangerous to children. The studies of offenders found rather that the chief contributing factors to child molestation were alcohol abuse, drug abuse, problems controlling anger, or other types of mental illness. I do agree with your chief point: the current atmosphere serves primarily to filter out decent guys, and leaves only very courageous men, foolhardy men, careless men, or abusive men to carry on in professions involving children. Meanwhile, I've heard that most of the child molestation going on in schools these days involves female teachers, and that it's fairly common. Somehow that slips under the radar and no one really cares.

[@cnrspiller3549]

@@alanlight7740 yes, yes, yes ... potato potarta. But I stand by my words. Men who prey on children are evil. Children are almost entirely defenceless against a motivated adult male

[@alanlight7740]

@@cnrspiller3549 - well of course. Anyone who preys on children is being evil - whether they be man or woman, or even another child. And I agree about your point that we have created an environment which will make it more likely that children are put in the care of evil persons.

[@namelesswalaby]

1:08:10 he’s not kidding, I was married within a year of her having kids and it still took me five years to get full custody in spite of her criminal record and schizophrenia.

[@HickYankee]

The family courts are a joke. A man is guilty without ever being accused of anything. My ex said my kids were afraid of me, I paid through the nose to have a licensed social worker go to my visits - they all wrote glowing reports to the court - one was almost word for word like "his children are constantly hugging him and telling him all their thoughts, smiling and laughing with him and from the moment their time begins to the moment it ends. Nothing I've seen in my entire career and my time with this family could make me believe these children are afraid of their father. In fact, quite the opposite." Didn't matter - the female judge refused to even look at any of the reports. Ironically, she made it so my ex-wife got to approve any social worker I hired, and even then still ignored what they all said in court - most cases I would pay their $200 fee to come to court and she wouldn't even let them speak. Family court is a complete joke.

[@HickYankee]

Also there was the fun time I talked with a man about losing his kids exactly as I lost my five kids. Then I found out he was a lawyer in California (hardest state to pass the bar) and he still lost them. Then I found out he was a family lawyer and lost them. Then I found out he was a family court judge and still lost them. That was fun realizing me ever getting my kids was completely hopeless - bankrupted myself for ten years - now they are all adults - never got spit from the family courts despite an army of lawyers, experts etc. My ex even fired her lawyer (despite having the money due to her getting everything in the divorce) - she didn't need a lawyer - judge would give her whatever she asked for - no matter how irrational, illegal - and would take her word or vague emotions as gospel despite mountains of contrary evidence. Such an absolute circus of dark humor. Oh yeah, my ex wife was a self mutilator and refused to get any psychological help in our 20 years of marriage - she lied about it for years - when my son began doing it and struggling with addiction and suicide I asked for partial custody so I could help (implying maybe she was not healthy especially since my kids were now imitating her behavior - and that of her family who had two drug deaths among her siblings) the judge literally laughed at me. My son is now in prison for a 7 year felony - his life is shattered - I was prevented from helping even in the most rudimentary ways, all this despite the fact I was a researched at a world renowned university drug addiction and mental health research institute with countless resources at my disposal.

[@MisterFudan]

Courts cater to moms. Always. Regardless of how good or bad the mom is.

[@usun_politics1033]

You know the solution to court problem. Open a history book. My kids are the meaning of my life, if somebody ever tried to take them away, I would make sure not to go silently, I would make everything in my power to set an example.

[@briangain9836]

I guess we can all just go traveling or fishing …. Next time the swamp needs to fight a war go ahead and send woman as we have lost interest .. As well ..

[@222ableVelo]

That would be nice, but we know they (meaning leftists who love gov't control and many women in general) won't return the favor. If women (and leftists) are in control of the state, the state WILL become totalitarian, just because of the nature of all of this. You will be forced to do things. It won't be incentivized or voluntary. This is why Feminism succeeding in tearing down good men (i.e. the patriarchy), was a terrible and false thing to do in reality. Get ready for work/labor camps and forced military drafts. Forcing men to do things will be what all of their governmental focus will be on!

[@peternorthrup6274]

When the average marriage only lasts about 7 years it's really sad.

[@mdarrenu]

Old News. I try to explain to people that we live in a matriarchy.

[@DegreesOfThree]

Speak for yourself.

[@stevenscott2136]

A matriarchy entirely created and maintained by men. Male cops, male lawyers, male politicians, male campaign donors... it wouldn't exist if they weren't enforcing it.

[@mdarrenu]

@@stevenscott2136 yes. youo are correct.

[@photina262]

😂

[@PossibleBat]

I wish lol we wouldn’t have these problems if we were. Everyone would be following a females advice which is the most sensible, instinctual advice you can get. Bad subjects would be caught early and re-educated, etc.

[@ericabothwell2586]

My husband stays home because child care is too expensive. I work. He would work if he could

[@Se7enChk]

As women enter any existing labor market, those wadges will stagnate or decrease because by adding women you double the labor pool.

[@usfslk]

That was the main goal, decrease wages.. why would half the population stay at home? It's not good for capitalists

[@unregierbar7694]

@@usfslk Even more for the government. Before women started to work or even own property they were invisible to the state. This was a good thing for families. They were taxed less.

[@republitarian484]

33:53. . . "I'm not suggesting for a moment that we shouldn't continue to fight for gender equality in the military. . .". Tells me a lot about this guy. Not sure how serious I should take the rest of what he says.

[@darkmoon2744]

Kids have so much energy. That learning does not deplete the energy at all and does not feel engaging. You can see this by observing children behavior. The number 1 cause for children behavior is fun not boring.

[@Meton2526]

I like how he calls out Jordan Peterson, then doesn't really say anything different. And never addresses why the Scandinavian countries that are seen as doing the most for "gender equality" show an even greater difference in gender ratios for medicine and engineering. Jordan Peterson never says it explains all of the difference, but that the theory that gender differences don't exist at all are thoroughly disproved.

[@CaliforniaFarmGirl]

This interview strangely fell apart into denigration of men…

[@fckyafeelingz4064]

Totally Agree. Their contempt is palpable while elitist virtue signaling nauseating.

[@someone-ji2zb]

Eh, while there is truth to that, I still don't think it is entirely fair to ignore the reality that most men now days are weak. Video game industry is at a record high, as is the porn industry, and both are primarily dominated by male consumers. Men are weak, and have been for a long time. Most men I meet are afraid to be put in any kind of leadership situation and make excuses to avoid it (even if it means losing their job). Men are called to leadership and we are meant to be assertive, but you see it so rarely now days it is insane. The average skin tone of a man is a few shades lighter than it should be due to so much time being spent inside doing pointless activities. Yea, men may be getting the short end of the stick atm, but it started with men being too weak to say no to the sexual revolution. Men have always had the ability to lead women down a better path, but for generations they have chosen not to.

[@trailerkeller6760]

@@someone-ji2zbwell of course but what kinda freedom will they have when homes and apartments are worth their entire paycheck at their labor jobs, and can’t get a place.I work as a package handler and my entire months paycheck is the monthly rent for a place. Men are made when they work hard and get a place to be free not stay with family and rot in their misery. Working hard back then meant you could get a house and have kids. Now working hard is not treated kindly.

[@someone-ji2zb]

@@trailerkeller6760 There is truth to that, but again, a lack of leadership led to the state of the US becoming like this. Women being allowed to be feminists and vote accordingly without male influence and leadership as it is suppose to be, was always going to end up like this. Who gave women the right to vote? Men. Who had the power to say "no" to the sexual revolution? Men. Why do most men 20-40 play 2+ hours of video games a day and jack off to porn most nights? Things are not right with how people in general are thinking. The issue at hand is that women are chaotic by nature, and they were always being led to do things or to think certain ways to keep their nature in check. Well now we have men so desperate for sex that they treat dating like it is for "fun" rather than dating with purpose leading into marriage. Simp nation gives women all of the power. If men could keep it in their pants, things would start changing in less than a year.

[@oraz.]

The rhetorical difference in how this is treated vs when women have bad outcomes is pretty obvious. This video is an example, and an extension of all the institutional typecasting.

[@TRINITY-ks6nw]

Men are warriors Warriors choose battles they are able to win

[@eddenoy321]

Just choose struggles you can win. Forget the macho talk.

[@otakutemplar2982]

Nu-males are not warriors.

[@listenluo2333]

I don't think women are privileged in their studies, because exam results don't lie, except to say that women are probably more comfortable with the existing education system than men. But t among men, there is an exception for gay men. According to a new study, gay men on average have higher education and higher grades than women, more than half of gay men have college degrees, and gay men have higher GPAs on average. I don't think gay men are privileged in school, because studies have also shown that gay men have much higher rates of depression, suicide, discrimination and bullying than straight men, but gay men use these difficulties as motivation to study hard. Perhaps there are lessons we can learn from the gay community to improve the overall academic performance of men?

[@eddenoy321]

Agree

[@IChooseAHandle]

1:08:33 this is absolutely false, the default in most states is not 50/50, there are currently 3 states that default to 50/50 (in the law, not necessarily in practice). Also most fathers don't get 1/3 of the time. It is closer to 1/4, the Siegenthaler schedule is still the most popular custody schedule.

[@richardramfire3971]

For generations men could provide for a family without advanced education etc. it just required hard work and consistency. That’s no longer the case.

[@hitandruncommentor]

It is actually, but that means going into production, refinement or transportation jobs. The system is working just fine, most people are interacting with it wrong and thus are being punished. Want a first home, go find a foreclosure. Live cheap. Save the fun for later and don't date and you come out quiet well. Just my experience as a millenial.

[@MrJobriz1]

@@hitandruncommentor "The system is working just fine, most people are interacting with it wrong and thus are being punished. " ???????? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[@theondono]

I wonder when we’ll see the Washington Post articles about the “toxic femininity” of f*ck, marry, kill…

[@mariahrossi3072]

I felt the role of marriage and traditional families in the ability of children to thrive especially for boys was overlooked in this discussion. If we were to do a study comparing the top 10 or 20 percent of kids versus the bottom for intact families what would we find. Has anyone even asked the question?

[@Thesupperals]

It is called the nuclear family and yes, it is always overlooked. Males are just about always demonized and are expected to act like women because most of the nurturing is done by women who don't seem to know (or respect ) a lick about the differences of the sexes and the brain between the two. Let boys be boys and allow them to get it out of their system so that they can do better in the future. But they don't do that. Males are more likely to be hands on, interactive and show an interest in things rather than people. Men's strengths as boys are less of visual and less of auditory as learners because they rather do the thing(s) that first caught their attention and hyper fixate on it. This is why many males are easily diagnosed with some ADHD or ADD and prescribed pills to deal with it- which is wrong. This is also why so many boys love all sorts of games at an early age. There are so many sociological aspects of a male that the male is raised and forced to suppress because the opposite gender is also present.

[@someone-ji2zb]

Yea, but do you think people are going to give up premarital sex? Sexual revolution changed everything; birth control came out in the 60s and then the taboo of pre marital sex started to quickly disappear. Traditional families? Traditional is a round about way of saying biblical. No way are we going back to biblical values at this stage.

[@CognitiveDissident.]

The stats about single moms and their sons are well known, and not flattering in the slightest.

[@gulli72]

"We just need more feminist micro management, bro. I swear it's gonna fix families, bro. Trust me, bro." --- Richard Reeves during his 765th public appearance, because this is totally not a psy-op, bro.

[@naftalibendavid]

Well done!!!

[@Designation6]

Men aren’t done until we say we’re done

[@CaliforniaFarmGirl]

Don’t let an evil society win. There’s women out there that appreciate men and most women are just as brainwashed as men are. I’m a psychology professor and I teach about this in class. One of my female students was going off about how terrible men were so I started ticking off all these statistics. She said she had no idea how much men were struggling in life and now she feels bad about the things she’s said and how she’s treated the men in her life. Keep fighting to be who you should be. Not who society tells you to be.

[@rickb06]

@@CaliforniaFarmGirl negative. Women have declared war upon their own species, and men are just now realizing this fact. The war cannot go unchallenged. Make no mistake, this is a war, a psychological war. Women bought the "don't need no man" hyperbole; hook, line and sinker. Women do need men, they need men far more deeply than men need women. Male resentment against women is nearing it's fevered pitch and the resentment is well earned, justified and impossible to trivialize or minimize without not only acknowledging the utter failure of modern women, but also forcibly correcting the attitudes of the near universal unfeminine belligerence of these maniac females. Men are done paying the ultimate price for the sake of the other half of this fickle species.

[@andrewkerr5296]

@@CaliforniaFarmGirl Aren't 67% of Psychological Studies not replicable? Psychology is bullshit

[@kaptainwarp]

done here.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

@@CaliforniaFarmGirl Based

[@shaun2513]

Now i realised it's not my fault that I am bad society just hates me. No matter how much hardwork i do. No wonder men become evil guys. I am a guy by the way. And about to enter job market.

[@rebeccahale4673]

Excellent discussion.

[@TheWhitehiker]

Men still fall for the 'gallant' ethos--dont criticize women's short-listing, preferencing, etc. Women are no longer the oppressed sex--but this might take time to sink in. This change is zero sum--but even Richard apparently denies this.

[@CaryHawkins]

There's nothing anti-libertarian about equal paid home leave - it's just who's dictating such terms that may make a libertarian uneasy. If it's a private market occurrence, great!

[@erikcuevas8376]

I find it interesting that despite all this women are still oppressed, and the ongoing rationale it's because of patriarchy and tadadada and blah blah blah, etc., you know what I mean. I think I know why men are are having such a difficult time: 1) it's because no one helps men with their emotional baggage from an early age and onwards and so they (we) have to FIND their way out; 2) finding a mate that provides emotional stability (most important form of stability) or other stability is nearly impossible nowdays and it's largely in part because on a social level (government couts and academic institutions alike) women are not held accountable for their wrongdoings and unfortunately to this end it's also men (so called "alphas" and "simps", both weak men in my eyes, both willing to do anything for *ussy) who are contributors to women's s**tty behaviour, wheter it be on the workplace or any other sitting.

[@rosey3664]

U r incel. The more you blame women the more they won’t like you. U keep pushing down instead of looking at the mirror.

[@hitandruncommentor]

​@@rosey3664 Yet, you're the one that is incapable of proper spelling and grammar. Also, it is rather amusing to hear an ad hominen attack about self reflection. Lastly, do you have anything other than questioning the original poster's sexual abilities, or is hedonic logic all you are capable of?

[@HonkHonkler]

Yep, I don't care anymore.

[@essiethebestie1]

So you think it's women's job to help stabilize men's emotions. And the reason they're not doing that is because they're not held accountable for their bad behavior? Because men simp for 😺? That doesn't make sense. No one is responsible for stabilizing your emotions except for yourself. And punishing women for living their lives(in a way you don't like) is not going to change that. You want men to act like they don't care about women. Yet, you care about women SO MUCH. You think having one will fix all your problems. That's not the answer.

[@erikcuevas8376]

@@essiethebestie1 WTF are you talking about??....Since when is having a woman a magic bullet for solving anyone's problems?... Today here in this society women are just skanks, and you can't have a skank as companion, PERIOD end of story.....and that's why so many men simply don't fukking care to bother looking for companionship and trust in women. Aside from dropping off your load on them like the cum dumpsters they've turned into, women are useless for the sake forming a stable relationship where ONE can form a stable family unit.....Lastly, It's not punishment, it's called being held accountable for your fukkups the same you would hold anyone accountable for their shittiness instead of receiving rewards for it.

[@quddusquddus136]

Very informative.

[@SongSwan]

When the whole thing falls apart which it is in the process of doing men will be needed but will not be there.

[@codebloke2200]

There is also the cost benefit analysis of higher education to consider as to why men aren't acquiring degrees at the same rate as women. The greater earning potential offered is becoming less of a reward in comparison to the risk of servicing the debt.

[@thetricksterpill]

Working minimum wage while listening to this. I love getting info like this, it's waking me up from being a bad stat

[@HonkHonkler]

You're literally working a minimum wage job and will most likely die single... Okay, buddy lol.

[@bobkay5088]

I had to deal with affirmative action from day one after graduating from college in 1979. I can't tell you how times I heard "We'd really like to hire you, but, we have to give this job to a woman." Before Reaganomics fully kicked in, companies didn't want to, but were forced to comply and discriminate against men. Later, as corporate greed and securing the bottom line became the plan, they hired more women, not because they HAD to, but now they WANTED to, because they could pay them less, and save a buck.

[@umeng2002]

No reason to play a rigged game.

[@dylanakent]

Just casual observation - my brother born in 1950 and his friends - were all lower middle class. They were taught by a high number of male teachers who did not tolerate anything but full attention, obedience in class and good behavior. Those boys were all working odd jobs by 14-16, hung out all the time listened to music, read books constantly, were absorbed by their science projects, diy projects, modeling, fixing machines, talked about girls of course, but also politics and the world. They didn't exercise but were in good shape. They didn't dress like old men but they certainly looked and spoke like young MEN, not boys. There was a definite distinction that they did not act or consider themselves to be children, they were soon to be adult men. We had no special advantage. They all got drafted, no exceptions. They grew up and became executives, mechanics, salespeople, a phamacist. They had aspirations, plans, goals for their lives. Today's boys constantly shutting out the world, not reading, playing games, clinging to TOYS, children's style clothing, cartoons rather than looking at real heroes and philosophers from history. Very little mechanical and tactile work experience. Thay are less physically fit than generations before. No real goals or practical plans. They fail in the real world because they have no experience with the real world. My brother and his friends wouldn't be caught dead looking like or associating with these guys. Also, Joseph Campbell spoke about this year's ago, he saw this breakdown coming decades ago. It's how men view themselves, how they relate to other men and what useful information is past down between the generations.

[@alanlight7740]

"what useful information is past down between the generations." I believe that the attacks on masculinity are chiefly about preventing practical knowledge and traditional culture from being passed down between the generations. They have poisoned the relationships between men and children to the point that children are frightened of men and men are frightened to be around children. I have come to believe that the "social engineers" did this deliberately. If aliens from outer space came to earth and wanted to destroy human civilization without showing their hand, I can't think of a better way to accomplish it.

[@HickYankee]

Absolutely true. I'm only 48 but remember the death of this era when it was still on life support. I followed the Reagan, good Christian provider era that I was raised in. But when I lost my family to anti-male bias (and Christian nationalism Christianity) I had a hard time caring about anything. It seems everything I was taught, every promise made, every social contract, was a lie. I am forcing myself to finish law school - so I can hopefully show my three sons (who their mother has encouraged to skip college) that they have the ability to do anything - not just the blue collar world both their parents came from. Also, my three sons and two daughters used to renovate real estate together - taught them all hard work from a very young age. One of the very very few things my kids thanked me for - in the once or twice in ten years that they have spoken a single word to me. But when a man like me tells my story people (especially men) don't want to believe I didn't do some major thing wrong, it scares them to know how fragile their own lives are. Now one of my sons is in prison and at least I know how to tell him about struggling with thoughts of suicide as you try to climb out of a hole that seems so dark and deep, you just want to give up and die. I can show him that overcoming and reinventing yourself is possible, even as a man.

[@jones2277]

are you suggesting that society should be less understanding and more of a disciplinarian for boys to succeed?

[@Prince_Sheogorath]

The draft is bullshit, male genital mutilation is bullshit. America cuts up boys cocks and everyone laughs. Men don't even have rights over their own cocks in the USA. We're sick of being dehumanized. Those men you just described pave the way for it to get where we are now. Those men thought that being silent and just being productivity ATM machines and never speaking out against mistreatment was "strong". No, that's masochistic slave behavior that the west has brainwashed boys to be., LOOK WHERE IT GOT US.

[@nickgir]

@@jones2277 You guys are talking about an America that was 90%+ White. those days are gone and we are reaping what we sow for being heathens.

[@delanorrosey4730]

Draft all women for front line combat! No exceptions, no excuses!

[@joygibbons5482]

Why. The vast majority of conflicts which require military involvement were caused by me. SORT YOURSELVES OUT YOU ARSEHOLES BEFORE POSTURING AS VICTIMS OF YOUR OWN BIOLOG. Prick

[@GAB-vq7re]

I'm doing just fine lol I get it though I wasn't for a long time took me till I was 30 to be happy with myself and my life and it's definitely nothing special. Things can always be better and you can always strive for more. Be grateful for what you have. Don't hold envy or anger in your heart and spread as much love to those around you. Get out of these toxic mindsets away from toxic people, stop comparing yourself to others, get off social media, learn to love and forgive yourself. Life's too short to live it in despair. Start working out. Educate yourself theirs plenty of easy free ways to do so nowadays. Take care of yourself but, also take care of your family. Stand tall and with integrity. Life is beautiful if you learn to appreciate the little things. Just existing is a f**king gift don't waste your time here on petty superficial bs. Live in the present moment not in a construct of your mind in the past or present. Those do not exist here and now does. Now get busy living my fellow men! YOU'VE GOT THIS! ✊️

[@ic_clearly]

By design... When they take away men's ability to take on biological male roles, what do you expect?

[@unreg6997]

I wouldn´t say completely done but modern society isn´t appealing to men. I always did the bare minimum to get by in this cleptocracy we live in. The HR departments are always stacked with women that hate me so I´m automatically not going to interact with them. I even turned down one promotion offer because that would put me in a position where I constantly have to be around arrogant people that treat me bad. No thank you. Also I think 100 years ago families pushed men to be successful. No one does that anymore. Women have the government and all sorts of institutions catering to them so that is where they can get their motivation from. So it was obvious that by now men have less clout than women in society. At least in the west. We can still emigrate to places that treat us better. Let women fight for and protect progressive societies. Because I sure as hell won´t.