Are race cars really quicker than their hot hatch alternatives? | Fifth Gear Classic

Vicki puts the RenaultSport Clio Turbo up against its race car alternative, the clio cup race car. Which is better? For access to exclusive Fifth Gear content and all FULL episodes, join our channel / @fifthgearuk
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[@amineghostdog]

well you cant compre laptimes with the added weight of a passenger...

[@altergreenhorn]

And different tyres - a huge difference

[@captmcneil]

@@altergreenhorn Weell, the passenger is one second and only really countering the driver here. The road tires however are part of the deal. You could tweak lots of things, like throwing out the passenger seat - that's just not the idea.

[@Dan23_7]

Plus a standing start

[@karolyorban]

she did get a rolling start too, on the timed lap

[@karolyorban]

can't edit my own reply :) it looks like i missed, that he did get a similar start as well :D

[@DrCrunkMusic]

Before I even watch yes of course they are 😂

[@jofan1982]

To make this more accurate you'd have to 1)use same driver 2)warm the tyres on the regular car and 3)go without a passenger. Just sayin... ;)

[@LewisRhymes]

Yeah she also had a rollling start on the actual timed lap 😠

[@kenriehl7852]

I think we all know that... I’m going to go out on a limb and say, the producers decided ahead of time that Ms Victoria was going to win this one. Just a guess...

[@altergreenhorn]

Yes and the same tyres

[@iluvfionaleggate]

@@LewisRhymes So did the road car in fairness

[@rexmedorum]

@@altergreenhorn No as that would make the road car no longer road legal.

[@RobinThomson277]

Vicki's so great always

[@jonnyxs892]

Vicky you were ballast😂😂

[@arifabdullah7142]

Silly race! The road car has 2 people in it. That's at least 80kg heavier.

[@atkins.8832]

Should been just one driver in the road car. Either way the race car time is slow !

[@LifeExplanatory]

I bet you’re a much better driver than Vicky 🤣

[@atkins.8832]

@@LifeExplanatory funnily enough yes as gone quicker round there in a Clio 200

[@vytbbb7146]

i wonder what "stock" clio would do with those racing tires, and no passenger.

[@system450]

A lot better laptime for sure !

[@AgtX999]

Or interior.

[@dominikrollenmiller2523]

Stock clio is available with 220 hp and the 100ms shift times.... This race car is just a street legal where you put all Interieur out.... And guess what between the 200 hp version and the 220hp version are miles different..... EG nearly half the time needed to 200 etc

[@johnb4840]

So to summarize some comments here. She started over the line while going flat out, he started from stand still. She was in the street car adding weight. The tyres should have been the same for the test. Should have been the same driver for both cars.

[@lord8139]

The most uneven way to compare the two. Two different drivers 1 lap with a passenger 1 with a flying start 1 with a standing start WTF

[@jasonboyle7203]

Aye it is but in the name of entertainment lol

[@jofan1982]

And cold tyres on the regular Clio as well..

[@vytbbb7146]

i believe they did a flyer with the stock car too. just filmed the burnout for the drama :)

[@WhuDhat]

@@vytbbb7146 you tell em Bob, don't doubt old top gear or ol'Tiff-æh. Those boys(+1) were always competitive and wouldn't rig any real test no matter how bad the odds, unless of course it was for a challenge then as with all TG's all bets are off every now and then haha

[@akshaysankarshana2405]

I mean, it should be same driver and warmed up tires, only the driver sitting in both cars during the hot laps. I guess the flying start for the road car was just edited out, if it were from a standing start, it would've been an even bigger difference.

[@polarweis]

the clio rs in that color is stunning.

[@elvanmilla830]

That’s a brilliant video more like this comparisons 👍

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

Those straight cut gears ⚙️ 💜

[@jamesdm75]

Extra passenger in road car and flying lap in race car, hmmm , well done Vicky

[@mr.carguy654]

Vicky is 🌶🌶🌶

[@bign3ck]

I miss the 200 Cup manual Clio so much.

[@drazenbudis1303]

Buy one before they skyrocket, and they surely will

[@DashDrones]

Rolling start, less weight with one driver, what's the point of comparing?

[@farvatron]

*3 Vicky is clearly punching for two these days!

[@badusername4]

Fun vid ! car throttles bmw estate was probably the best series to show each components difference to becoming a faster car.. quite surprising

[@rohanpatil6168]

Vicky :D really like the idea of comparing those two cars too

[@elvanmilla830]

More videos like this 👍 brilliant

[@anthonypetty9288]

Cadwell Park looks like a fun place to race.

[@nonopus3125]

Gotta love VBH! 😍

[@talal1987alami]

Didn't he start from a dig while she blasted past the start/finish line flying from the previous lap?

[@roby054]

yep

[@rossthompson2699]

Exactly.

[@TheQuestionTheAnswer]

I never got how you can do these sorts of comparisons with one of the cars on slicks....the amount of grip you get off a slick is actually terrifying

[@Baturatus]

Wait, is this a new video? Vicki Butler-Henderson looks great. Oh I want this Clio Cup Race butttttttttttt I live in Mordor).

[@paulsimonsson]

Would have been properly interesting with the same tyres on both cars. Vicky is brilliant!

[@bitkarek]

he should do one lap in the race car too... i would like to see the drivers difference.

[@Phnergelde]

I love my RS 197. Such a wonderfully antisocial wee beasty.. Smiles per hour.

[@chriscringle9263]

I bet the Clio wasnt the only thing he wragged around that afternoon!

[@davidwilliamson9162]

Go on Vicky lass !👍

[@maximahafm]

The Road Clio is a R.S. 200EDC of frist generation, must be a Clio R.S. Trophy 220EDC of second generation (are very different cars, I had been one) against the Renault Clio Cup. If you want do this thing, do it well or not do it.

[@rafailspari1529]

Can't wait to race my Clio in nurburgring track ❤🚘

[@PhantomMark]

1:49.7 , actually disappointed with that , I thought it would be quicker tbh, managed 1:47.5 around there in a big fat Holden V8, I really would have expected the Clio to dominate a car like that around Cadwell ? Phil wasn't exactly hanging around either !!

[@richboy900]

Considering a civic touring car is quicker than a McLaren supercar around a circuit, I'd say that's pretty accurate

[@PhantomMark]

My E36 race car lapped around there in 1:40 flat pretty much, where my old VXR8 managed a respectable 1:47 with a lot more power tbh...... 1:45 is a decent enough lap around there in the Clio race car to be fair, I was a little surprised the road car wasn't a little quicker tho, I didn't feel my laps in the Holden were "uber" fast......its not really a power track either ?

[@squadmeta]

Oh, a tyre comparison video.

[@baronhyatt6729]

Absolutely love this episode cuz I'm Vicky wheel of Vicky Vicky Vicky Vicky and Vicki one

[@stevecowham1017]

1 warm up lap/slicks. An extra passenger..no contest.

[@resnonverba137]

I do enjoy these videos, but the comparisons really need to be a little better done.

[@finite934]

Been laughing along with top gear all these years, but now they seem a bit old in the tooth and a lot un-PC, and I realise that the 5th gear team is really lovely, down to earth, and so technical in comparison. It's a shame that top gear always stole the limelight with their brashness.

[@jerrymyahzcat]

Vicki had a running start though...

[@rotorblade9508]

That was funny Anyway I expect the race car to be much quicker: more power and probably like 200kg less ? idk then the suspension, brakes and tires add more performance, like a some good seconds faster.

[@OllieC100]

Yes they are. Next!

[@davespooney8472]

One started from a stop?

[@berndecke9488]

Vicki did a great job at all..

[@paulroberts3974]

So have both people in the non race car that makes it fair lol

[@leed2883]

Road car standing start,race car flying lap?

[@sl077766]

Er, ballast! :D

[@TheNonAlignmentMovement]

Need tiff

[@leedstown]

4 seconds is a lifetime in racing

[@davecroden9793]

That’ll be the fast rolling start you had Vicky; laddie had a standing start only

[@rudi_ghuliani]

I think this is staged this way is bc the race car can't get proper heat in their tires in one lap.

[@DANNY-xk9fg]

Why didnt you use trophy? Both would of had same power

[@WhuDhat]

We all knew the answer, but we still watched because we wanted to see the attempt, right?

[@tony66au]

I dont care who you are, VBH for the win every time lol

[@superbike1]

More power,more grip and no passenger, if they had the same tyres and no passenger in the road car then the gap would have come right down to around 2 seconds

[@torquecars2338]

Extra passenger and a rolling start, hardly comparable really

[@nicola5307]

What a joke!!!! I have been on at least 10 official renault track days, 1 lap in a clio RS race car as a passenger. Race cars are are on a different planet.

[@Johnjakfay1969]

Also she was at full speed when she started and he had to go from a Dig.

[@Chic-A-Dee]

4:38 Fifth Gear.

[@Neil-Aspinall]

Why do so many people in the UK have that lisp?

[@jaseleese7549]

Stiff upper lip

[@Neil-Aspinall]

@@jaseleese7549 Oh I see Sir, right you are!

[@dominikrollenmiller2523]

The question is how old is that test? Cause.... The 200 edc clio is shit. But there is a clio rs trophy 220edc with the same specs like the "race car" and its absolutely street legal. For comparison the trophy drives at around 8:30 around the nurburgring. The normal 200 edc is more then 30 seconds slower....

[@owenmarron6651]

wtf the car used in video is my car that i wrote off last year

[@MrBrenden830]

5 seconds I would give it to the street car. Heavier on street tyres with 2 people. The person has got to be worth 3-4 seconds alone. Don't know why they did that other than the street car was faster so the put in the passenger to slow it down.

[@TG-pd3ft]

carrying an extra 100kg of ballast just may have slowed down the road car a bit no?

[@Beastnappy]

She won't weigh 100kg mate😉

[@steviewonderzaful]

@@Beastnappyhis right, the race car is lighter so it's about 100kg difference in weight.

[@dylangough6806]

100 percent should’ve been compared to the trophy

[@pmeyer37]

Not sure how that's fair, two up road car vs 1 up racer....

[@garypCronshaw]

Der brain!

[@KadettLino]

Should have switched wheels and tyres.

[@EugVR6]

Extra passenger!....Come in 5th gear!

[@averagepal572]

So road car was a standing start and the race car a rolling start? This comparison was a great idea but executed poorly.

[@steveunderhill6570]

1 person slicks and a flying lap, a moron may have bet against the track car , it would of been a lot closer with both laps from a standing start

[@ahnilatedahnilated7703]

Passenger, flying start, you were bound to win.

[@janludwikkotowski]

running lap vs standing start? only there you got like 2-3 sec advantage... what a bs test. the fact is race car is reinforced mostly because stock one wouldn't handle more than 2-3 laps with race pace. It'd overheat and gearbox must've been replaced every second or third race weekend...

[@carculturenation2166]

Most race cars have regulations and sometimes have roll cages and other things that bring weight back up after weight reduction. So in some cases the street version is faster if not just build it faster!! Lol

[@ProTasiable]

Sounds like it has a supercharger.

[@bmstylee]

Probably straight cut gears in the transmission whining.

[@andrewbeard2235]

just here for Vicki

[@farvatron]

You like 'em big huh?

[@andrewbeard2235]

@@farvatron yeah your mum was the original big mama though

[@SA-zoom1]

Are supermodels more attractive than traffic wardens?

[@ussvoyager8650]

Vicki I totally love U... you R the Hottest Woman on the Entire Planet I totally loved watching U on Top Gear back in the 90s & U R even more Beautiful than Ever & U R the best driver in the whole world EVER & U have such an amazingly beautiful voice

[@jamesdm75]

Stalker

[@ussvoyager8650]

@@jamesdm75 no I'm just saying that she's an amazing woman & a great driver I've watched top gear back in the 90s when she was on & fifth gear & she's on 2 of my Jeremy Clarkson dvds

[@ussvoyager8650]

@@jamesdm75 I am not like that I'm nearly 42 & I've never been in trouble ever I was not brought up that way I'm a really great person & I've never hurt anyone

[@jamesdm75]

OK mate chillout , was saying more in jest than anything!

[@ussvoyager8650]

@@jamesdm75 oh ok did U watch Top Gear back in the 90s

[@PushToStart]

Not really fair given that she had a flying lap where the dude started for stationary 🤣🤔 Never the less, do love a Liquid Yellow Baguette 🥖 🇫🇷

[@christopherdaniel6142]

why this vid gave me such a dirty mind ...no idea why ,oh! the lil back an forth was hot to me for some reason . im sending this to hornhub is a video pitch

[@mikep9945]

Vicky..... My dream wife

[@charlieburton9967]

So he had a road car. And A passenger. Hmm. Sorry but that sucks.

[@deejarvisful]

Different drivers, different number of occupants. Hardly scientific was it? 🐒

[@TANKSINATRA289]

Si ma dovevi prendere la Trophy da 220

[@thecornishbiker9323]

80kg lighter due to no passenger

[@cryptobond0079]

Just buy a Peugeot 308 GTi 300bhp standard 😂

[@swissyodelbear]

LOL

[@PhantomMark]

VBH, dunno what you are doing but you suddenly got smoking hot again....

[@aaronhotchkins2854]

Do you not need to wear a helmet at this track

[@fenboy3779]

Race car flying lap.Road car car standing start ,do they think were all idiot's.

[@akshaysankarshana2405]

That's not how you do a fair comparison, FG. Same driver, only one person in the car, warm up both tires before the timed laps. The fact that you guys are re-uploading old content clearly shows that the new Fifth Gear, especially after Tiff Needell left, was absolute trash.

[@AgtX999]

Nothing to do with the huge difference in weight then?

[@getphuked2]

I think ANY.... of the MAZDASPEEDS would beat ether ones of those.

[@mateuszodrzywoek8658]

fifth gear, for when BBC is blocked in your country

[@mateuszodrzywoek8658]

dont get me wrong fifth gear is awesome

[@gavinwyllie7855]

Use a VPN.

[@leehenry5764]

I'm jealous that you're country blocks BBC.

[@xWILZTAx]

Fifth gear when you refuse to pay you're tv licensing as to not fund a paedophile organisation

[@farvatron]

@@xWILZTAx BINGO!

[@davidkelsey2864]

Vicki, you're too much of a distraction, get outta the car!!!

[@ElliotMelloy]

I couldn't watch this to the end, she's insufferable. But it's obvious which one will win. The race car has more power and better tyres. In the road car she was a passenger probably adding 80kg, and it still has all seats which could add another 70kg. That's probably 10% of the car's weight. Plus she got a rolling start and he didn't. When they make trash videos like this, you just know they swapped drivers and ran different laps until they got the time they were looking for - it's probably a paid advertising trick.

[@mahadzirabdkarim4800]

..+.3√π\45¶∆ = that lady Weight 88kg

[@TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead]

4.5 seconds isn't competitive against anything around that track, you can't compare the two not even close.

[@ciaranmccormack4434]

Any masks?

[@albertt7784]

What a totally pointless comparison! Does anyone really think a racing car that costs more than double that of the road car its based upon is going to be slower around a track than the road car which has an extra passenger in it and is starting from a stand still vs a flying start for the race car? What a totally pointless video.

[@farvatron]

Jesus Christ Vicky lay off the pies love!

[@farvatron]

@Ross Bourne Simp!

[@edgimson5706]

Women have curves like Vicky. Girls have bones. Obvious which you prefer.

[@farvatron]

@@edgimson5706 HAHA bit of a fat kent ourselves are we?! pmsl!