Are Republicans Turning on Ukraine?

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When the war in Ukraine began, support packages enjoyed near universal bipartisan support in the House and Senate. However that sentiment has waned over time, particularly among Republicans. So why is this? And will this consensus survive the midterms?
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[@pierceplaysstudios245]

In my opinion, if the war just drags into a slog I can see Republicans really starting to argue against sending the same level of support we've been sending

[@Cajek2]

The republikkkans are russian agents. If/when they come to power, they will pull out of Ukraine IMMEDIATELY: can't make their boss angry.

[@Chestyfriend]

On the other hand the more Russians die without having to use American soldiers, the stronger the US becomes compared to Russia. There are arguments for and against supporting a bloody slog war. Sadly the ones who will suffer the most are the Ukrainian civilians.

[@amoghavarshakatrahalli]

Not only Republicans, even democrats have started the same ( AOC and few others)

[@johkupohkuxd1697]

I can see that too. At what point does supporting Ukraine no longer make practical sense, or rather when will that perception come about?

[@ravenguard1495]

The war in Ukraine will finish in a way or another in 2023. Either Ukraine will collapse or Russia will collapse. In first case the cause of the end will be military, in the second case Russia will suffer an economic collapse.

[@Leg3nd-27]

If Ukraine is an important issue for you, it’s possible to see if the politicians your voting for support Ukraine. In my district, a house Republican says he supports Ukraine but has voted against aid for them.

[@thewingedhussar4188]

So thus he isn't really for ukraine. Talking from opposite sides of his mouth. An just telling people what they want to hear. Rather then solve issues.

[@alexanderlopez7659]

Classic Republican move.

[@professorhal8098]

It could just mean the republican does not want America to be pulled into the war? What has he said about russian sanctions?

[@DavidJones-bp9gl]

Dems do it too, just look at Fetterman in the Pen Senate race who is now suddenly for fracking with a proven history of the opposite. You fail to realize that this is not Rep or Dem issue rather it is the political game that both sides use (lies and hypocritical) to get into office. To marginalize one party as a bad actor is kindergarten thinking. In reality we as Americans elect folks for wonky look out at their own self interests and not the peoples. Being divided between republican and democratic in the fractured way this country is running will be our downfall. We must be united and to compromise with each other. Additionally so many people don’t utilize their voice we need all citizens to vote

[@CedarHunt]

It's also important to check their comments outside of their public statements. My state has a far leftist representative that signed onto that letter to Biden pushing for unilateral negotiations with Russia, basically they wanted to sell Ukraine down the river.

[@MrDanishninja]

Please please please keep the channel. I know it doesn't get the same amount of views as the others but America desperately needs independent journalism, please don't leave us with American mainstream media

[@GusCraft460]

As an American, I don’t think that the US is obligated to protect Ukraine, but I definitely think we should. Ukraine is fighting what can only really be described as a righteous war for their country. They are fighting in defense of their country against an unprovoked invasion from an autocratic imperialistic power that has been slaughtering Ukrainian civilians. To not lend aid to Ukraine would be akin to approving of Russia’s actions.

[@Jai_hind]

Hey ! Let's correct some facts Ukrainian fight is justified and i support their territorial integrity but it wasn't unprovoked as Ukraine acted as buffer between NATO and Russia 🇷🇺 but Ukrain decided to join NATO( Tricked by US) and according to BBC before the war there was Neo - facist , corrupt and racist people who attacked Russian minorities but of course the government is not Nazi Germany type like Putin says . I am saying this because my cousin studied there in a medical College and faced racism .

[@GusCraft460]

@@Jai_hind no, Russia started invading Ukraine years before Ukraine thought about joining NATO when Russia invaded Crimea. Ukraine chose to seek to join NATO because it wanted protection from Russian aggression. Ukraine isn’t Russia’s emotional support state. Ukraine is free to seek NATO membership if it wants. Russia shouldn’t have a say in that. The fact remains that Russia attacked Ukraine without being attacked first. That is the definition of an unprovoked attack. Whatever alliances Ukraine seeks to involve itself in are none of Russia’s concern, and it certainly isn’t enough to justify a first strike.

[@colincampbell4261]

It is. USA and UK signed the Budapest agreement when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons.

[@GusCraft460]

@@colincampbell4261 so did Russia. Russia is obligated to defend Ukraine against its own invasion.

[@colincampbell4261]

@@GusCraft460 i know.

[@generaltank6634]

Most everyone in the House and Senate is getting supplied with defense contractor cash. So it would make sense to keep the aid flowing at a bigger rate to ensure that the money keep flowing into their bank accounts, for both members of the House and Senate and the defense contractors.

[@MPedich]

For once something good comes out of this.

[@dgurevich1]

That is also why not one cent was sent as part of lend lease act, which has been active since may 9th This war could have ended very quickly if the president was to send existing US military equipment instead of having it produced by said contracts For reference, Ukraine armed forces stopped and reversed the advancement of russian army with only 16 himars systems. US has over 1000 such systems in storage, yet they opt to produce new ones for Ukraine. I wonder why?

[@danielmorton9956]

​@@dgurevich1 Yeah, it's pretty annoying. These aren't one-one new, many existing pieces are traded out, but a lot of that stock pile existed with Russia in mind. We could even schedule some hardware for early retirement. I mean long term, if Ukraine wins, the US has some guaranteed buyers for a while.

[@hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095]

Great. Even if the US government does good stuff, it’s still just because they were bought.

[@user-rv6cx3rz7t]

​@@MPedich this made me chuckle

[@Emanon...]

*"The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists"* * *: Unless we're in the mood to negotiate. Or you're one of our friends...

[@davidty2006]

Or you have oil

[@fjmarcliff1390]

It will survive the Midterms and the 30 Dems that sent that letter suffered significant backlash from voters.

[@unconventionalideas5683]

I don’t think they actually sent that letter. I think it was going to be sent and it was withdrawn before it was even sent.

[@JimSendre]

@@unconventionalideas5683 it was indeed withdrawn Republican Party is really the only thing to worry about

[@JimSendre]

this video is wrong in the sense that there is waning support from both parties. democrats weren't really worth the mention its only the republican isolationists/tyranny lovers.

[@soccerguy325]

Why did they suffer "significant" backlash?

[@christopherg2347]

Reportedly this letter was set up and pre-signed back in March. A lot of things have changed since then, resulting in it being shelved. It is a odd coincidence it got released exactly now.

[@erez2111]

Support for this channel is growing fast they have gained 3k subscribers in a week I hope it is enough to save the channel.

[@aye3678]

LONG LIVE THIS CHANNEL!

[@frazzleboi2821]

yippity doodly oh

[@davidvavra9113]

Yep

[@kingace6186]

I hope this growth will be enough to save this channel, as well. I think the increase in timely, concise, objective content is what is driving the growth. The Midterms are actually helping this channel a lot! But, I hope it can continue to be strong after the elections, too.

[@frazzleboi2821]

yes

[@jorgS94]

Aid to Ukraine is in no danger. I think many people outside the USA don’t understand how things are working here. It would take me way to long trying to explain it here, but the public support is like 72% and even if one or the other chamber would try to say no it would be overwritten by the other or at worst case vetoed by the current president. There is also the lend lease act which just started and has been voted on and signed into law. It’s up to the president and the Secretary of State to approve or deny of what to send into Ukraine. So the material support for Ukraine basically has a blank check as is or what the president deems necessary.

[@MPdude237]

I think the Lend Lease act was a smart move to implement while Support for Ukraine was high. Should support for further Ukraine bills falter, the act will allow the President to continue support.

[@Silver_Prussian]

Only 53% of americnas support fully ukriane that is untill the russian get kicked out of their new territory which is just laughfable to think about. People really think they have a chance by seeing what the media presents them and not the reality of the situation. Like the kharkiv offencive which wasnt in any way a battle but just overwhelming the russian who didnt even atempt to fight with nothing but numbers and at the same time losing many in the process despite the enourmass numerical advantege. I still dont get why people use this as some sort of example that ukraine will somehow win or that the russians are weak. Losing hundreds of men while nit inflicting any damage on the enemy is not a win in any way shape or form no matter how you put it ,,but they gained land" and ? It can be easily be lost. When all this loss of life,money, time and effort becomes the reality people will be extremely lost and wont know who to trust or what to do.

[@soultacer2723]

As it should be. Thankfully a majority of the American Public understands Putin's BS, and supports democracy and sovereignty.

[@franekkkkk]

It’s really crazy that so many conservatives in the US flirt with Putin though. We need to be on the look out.

[@TheFinalChapters]

You are completely wrong about the "one chamber or the other" assertion. If either chamber decides that "enough is enough", US aid will largely stop. Both the House, the Senate, and the Presidency have to agree for even a single dime to be sent to Ukraine. The President does have some wiggle room as the Commander in Chief, but Congress holds the power of the purse.

[@kingace6186]

Firstly, let me just say that the articles, charts, and/or statistics in these presented figures within this video have been nothing short of phenomenal. This is how objective, non-biased, concise news coverage is done!! Please, keep fighting the good fight for honest journalism. . . . We love you TLDR News US and we hope to see more US content post-midterms :)

[@bcfortenberry]

Ted Cruz won’t even defend his own wife. What makes you think he’d defend freedom at home and abroad?

[@hello7522]

You do understand that Ukraine is one of the most corrupt and authoritarian countries in the world?

[@lombardo141]

Don’t forget he also left his constituents to freeze while he went on vacation.

[@femtoeclipse860]

😂😂😂 Ted is trash

[@Millsmills586]

As a American, I have no idea why we expect anything to happen super fast. Let this play itself out. Ukraine is essential, aid must not stop.

[@toastbuster9050]

Send them your paycheck and grab a rifle and plane ticket then.

[@ConnorNolan]

@@toastbuster9050 I have been donating a portion of my paycheck every month and I would consider fighting if I didn’t have family

[@sawyersprott]

@@ConnorNolan Absolutely based bro

[@toastbuster9050]

@@ConnorNolanI'm sure you have. Maybe when hundreds of thousands of people die and everyone's standard of living goes down globally Ukraine can reclaim Donbass...

[@toastbuster9050]

@@adrianliung8374 Nobody cares who controls the Donbass.

[@cowsgomoo8120]

Trump said Putin's strategy was genius. It doesn't mean it was moral. It was not an endorsement of the man. Context matters.

[@trillionbones89]

It is still a stupid thing to say

[@Ren_-]

great video TDLR!

[@jordanlester9276]

This was very informative

[@kingace6186]

True

[@IanG99]

A lot of both GOP and DEM politicians have stakes in defense contractors so no

[@kingace6186]

**Voters**

[@guillemedina7908]

by stake you mean stock right?

[@patmccall1818]

I love stakes. Medium rare. Only way to go.

[@palmercolson7037]

I would say the military and industries that supply them are loving the opportunity to determine how the next war will be fought. Already, it seems to shape up around cheap drones and intelligence .

[@adriancampos8640]

@@guillemedina7908 Probably lobbies and superpacks.

[@arjanzweers6542]

Seems like that the American military industrial complex needs to refill the pockets of some politicians to get them back on track and continue supplying Ukraine with weapons

[@kingace6186]

Ah. Classic incentivisation.

[@generaltank6634]

They will. Those HIMARS, Javelins and other weapon sales mean money. Some of that money will be spent on lobbying to keep the cash flowing.

[@Davitofrito]

Yep

[@IK_MK]

Damn I've got to hand it to the Ukrainians for toughing it out... I almost forgot they reached Kyiv

[@quietstormvalley9010]

Russia first wave was only 120,000 soldiers-Russia is going easy on Ukraine at the moment, however they may start to up the fighting in the next wave.

[@IK_MK]

@@quietstormvalley9010 I don't really think so of the _"300 000"_ mobilised only about 9k is at the Ukrainian border This mobilisation isn't to take back land...rather to save what little left they have

[@Silver_Prussian]

@@IK_MK its precisely to take land, really the only thing the russians lacked amd had limited themselves is the number of troops they use and the use or their bombers. At the start ukrine had a numericla atvantege 3 to 1, now its 5 to 1. The russians have indeed held back a lot what do you think kept them from doing a desert strom ? They could have planed the whole thing for months, prepare the 500.000 troops, start the tacticala and strateguc bomber and be done with it in month. But they disnt do that not only becuase there would be high civilian casualties but desteuction on another level

[@Silver_Prussian]

@kira so they recently demostrated that they can indeed strike deep into ukrainains territory and where was ukrianes air defence ? How come it didnt stop all these attacks.

[@TheRealUSArmy]

I hope Russia takeover Ukraine

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

I mean, social media made everyone more fatigued.

[@nickbelcher2631]

Interesting topic!

[@mammyaondiciple3570]

To be fair thats the biggest issue with democracy. When it comes to international diplomacy the stance of the country can do a full 180 on its position in a months time

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

Cough * brexit * cough

[@kingace6186]

Democracy is a fickle drag queen.😂

[@V0ID_beats]

This is the case with authoritarian countries, i think even more so..

[@saintjames1995]

At this point, stopping is dumb. We've sunk too much into it

[@saintjames1995]

@@noboliNo true. But think of it this way. We said that twice and got involved and because more powerful for it. Plus if Ukraine loses we are never getting that money back

[@noboliNo]

@@saintjames1995 Yea but USA can get more powerful in other ways that don’t involve provoking nuclear powers. Like invading Cuba, Mexico, or Canada

[@saintjames1995]

@@noboliNo that would literally make America lose power super quickly and turn us into a pariah. Canada offers nothing, mexico offers less. Cuba is just a joke. Why bother wasting money on that and then having to integrate these failed countries? Let them fail on their own. Having canda and Mexico would make us weaker. Even Cuba is not worth it. Canada, Mexico and Cuba know we could easily take them. Becoming a pariah is a fools errand.

[@saintjames1995]

@@noboliNo it's not the same. The middle east was basically non aligned. Canada and Mexico are both aligned. Even if we left NATO and attacked Canada, we would get overwhelmed because you can bet china would join in and probably Russia. This is how I know you're twelve. Mexico is too large and too different. It would take a literal century before we have them 100% integrated. Again Cuba is worthless and offers nothing. And there is no loving space in Canada that isn't already lived in. All that space is inhospitable. That's why they all live close to the border

[@zanehuseth8621]

The real question is can Germany hold out. Proxy wars are much cheaper than direct confrontation in both money and American lives and most legislators know this.

[@kingace6186]

Germany can, at least through this winter. The government is mostly ready and the people who are against the war are a slight minority (dominating the attention because they are the loudest.) The real pain starts in 2023. Especially if this war continues for a second winter...

[@MetallicReg]

Until around February if the winter is mild. Many forget that our reserves are not national - those are European reserves. We are obligated to share under the EU law and many countries around us heavily depend on it.

[@davidty2006]

germany should be fine. Their doing better than the UK.

[@Mr.Nichan]

Yeah, but why would there be a direct confrontation between Russia and the USA if the USA doesn't start it? Are you expecting Russia to invade a NATO country?

[@zanehuseth8621]

@@Mr.Nichan no, I'm saying putin's strategy is to divide the west by bringing pain in the energy sector due to the specific set up, particularly in terms of natural gas for heating homes, especially in the east. The further west you get, the less dependant they become. France for example will feel much less pain (thanks to a huge investment in nuclear energy) in this than in, say, Poland.

[@Masaru_kun]

Conservatives on Ukraine: Our government hasn't wasted this much money since WW2!!

[@davidty2006]

Atleast unemployment in WW2 was 0%.

[@kingace6186]

Thirdly, happy to see y'all surpassed 250K subscribers! That's a huge milestone for this channel.

[@jtgd]

Imagine voting against support of sovereignty of Moldova

[@tobypettit6417]

Another good video lads 👍

[@ismailabdulahi1214]

Another great video

[@MerrickKing]

You haven't mentioned the lend-lease act. Biden now his own blank cheque and it would take a majority in both the house and senate to repeal that.

[@kingace6186]

IDK what you meant by the second part. In any case, I just want to say that all military aid sent to Ukraine is lend-lease; none of it was free (more like loaned). Only humanitarian aid is "free". This has been a bedrock of American military aid doctrine for a long time. Britain, famously, was a huge recipient of the lend-lease program during World War 2 (they paid for and return everything in whole value).

[@holyfordus]

@@kingace6186 I believe you misunderstood the intent of the comment. It wasn’t to try and call lend-lease free (since as you mentioned it is not), it was to say that the GOP ultimately has zero say over what weapons aid gets sent to Ukraine because there’s now an active law giving that authority to President Biden.

[@kingace6186]

@@holyfordus I see. Thank you for elaborating. That is a very strong point.

[@tangotyke6870]

Its been American policy since France paid for the revolutionary war and USA declined to pay France back. Thus, France went bankrupt and the french revolution happened.

[@Yourdeadmeat69]

Ukraine falls, democracy takes a huge hit. . Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Norway Finland Sweden then Western Europe falls. Any questions.

[@Jai_hind]

What will NATO do then ? Go on a vacation in Las Vegas? It's the most obvious think that if Russia 🇷🇺 attacks NATO this is Nuclear WW III, nobody is gonna do this Russia attacked Ukrainian because Joe Biden openly said NATO will not come to fight for Ukraine which became Russian motivation.

[@KlynerKaiOffical]

Yes I have one, how?

[@Jai_hind]

@@KlynerKaiOffical in Minecraft maybe , I mean every single politician is brainwashing the world that if Ukraine falls democracy dies like they forgot that Ukraine was one of the most corrupt government in Europe and even Zelensky is accused of supporting the corrupt but still I support Ukrainian sovereignty and yes world will face energy and food crisis because of the sanction on Russia . Pray for peace ☮️ and don't be a geopolitical analyst by learning from Twitter.

[@R0DBS2]

Russia's struggling in Ukraine I doubt it can go against a whole continent

[@Elongated_Muskrat]

Nah, everyone loves defense spending stimulus. And this is the best weapons field testing opportunity in a generation. The scope and scale of aid will change as it should depending on the situation, but it won't be zero and no one will accept "Abandoning" Ukraine. This is much cheaper than trying to fortify the Eastern European parts of NATO.

[@bazzfromthebackground3696]

Republicans aren't known for "giving things away"

[@DOSFS]

I agree the Ukraine war is literally a perfect condition for undermining Russia and 'moral proof' from both for left and right. Abandoning Ukraine entirely and letting Russia win is literally political suicide at this moment while changing the details somewhat isn't.

[@Elongated_Muskrat]

@@bazzfromthebackground3696 They give things away to special interests all day, every day.

[@palmercolson7037]

Exactly. Also, this weakens Putin and the Russian military.

[@nunyvanstta135]

@@palmercolson7037 doesn’t seem to have stopped them at all so far 😒 The only thing that would of put the Russians in a weak position is if the US and NATO already their forces in Ukraine in the first place.

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

At last someone is talking about this

[@kingace6186]

Me, too. This was having me worried with nothing to address my worries.

[@Ghettofinger]

Any negotiations done to appease Putin because the threat of using nuclear weapons will actually increase the risk of nuclear conflict in the future. You will demonstrate to countries that any aggressor with nuclear weapons can force a settlement by threatening to use them, so defenders must seek to obtain them to protect themselves. You will kickstart a new age of nuclear proliferation and it will massively increase the risk of a conflict leading to nuclear war.

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

If the US government was so concerned about Saddam's suspected nukes, then why did they invade? Unless, (you know 😉) they knew they were propagating a lie from the start

[@tarik1163]

You mean the same way America fought wars for economical dominands invading countries and kiling civilians and nobody doing or saying anything (no sanctions for the US) becouse they would profit as well 🤔 If the suport would stop we wouldn't even be in this dilema becouse the same moment war stops and the sanctions on russia end economy and food and gas supply in the world would notmalise it wouldn't be same but it would definitly becoume better, in other words everybody would have a better life and the west wouldn't be so hypocritical and Americans especially would't be such hypocrites 😉

[@sonicmeerkat]

@@tarik1163 so what you want russia to get away with what you criticise the usa for because being hypocritical is worse than punishing warcrimes? don't get me wrong i've got many issues with nato as a whole but that doesn't change the fact that in this specific case, russia is the aggressor and if we want aggression to stop we should discourage it both sides.

[@noriakiboi2452]

I would like to tell everyone in advance not to respond to tarik11 they're either just another bot made by the russian government or trying to get a reaction out of you since they never received any attention as a child

[@tarik1163]

@@sonicmeerkat The only reason this whole war is talked about as much is becouse Russia is the one doing it most American leaders are war criminals who have killed countles in the name of their protection thats at least what they said in truth it was for their own economic gain. If it would be western people attacking and the ones dying not white poeple like Vietnamese Afgan Iraq no body would give a fuck and saying that russia is threat is also laughable right now they only want to secure their own integrity and economical security and political system as corupt as it is,Russia can't beat in case of war the whole of Europe not to mention Nato they don't have the money they don't have the equipmant. The only thing they have is Nuklear wepons which they would use only in case that somebody pressure's them to that extant like war with the West or Ukrain winning the war invading their territory.They would't use Nuklear wepons ever becouse it would mean their demise as well.

[@karankapoor2701]

Only teeny tiny member's of REPUBLICAN party is against the AID , majority still support Ukraine despite what their fringe members say , Ukraine will be supported regardless who's in charge of the house and senate

[@jerry3790]

Why do you capitalise AID and REPUBLICAN

[@MrVinhPhan]

Have you seen the Republican's candidates? Also senate/house majority and minority works differently from what you think.

[@karankapoor2701]

@@MrVinhPhan but that still won't cause much issue

[@rc7625]

@@karankapoor2701 I really hope you're right. God, I hate the GQP.

[@fareflight2029]

Rightfully so, most Republicans even seen this as the best spent military aid we've had since World War 2. We are crippling one of our main rivals by supporting a country that won't immediately turn around and stab us in the back like the Mujahadeen. I think most who are tepid or anti-Ukraine just think this might lead us to Nuclear War, which won't happen. Despite all of Russia's bluster, you dont' nuke a country you intend to conquer. They would only do that if Ukraine invaded Russia.

[@OculusUniversale]

Nebula: THUMB NEEDED Lol there's no thumbnail there

[@Touhou-forever]

As a Irish person who has a lot of American friends I am sick and tried of both parties using the American people as their own personal puppets the two party system must be abolished completely or else nothing will ever change

[@palmercolson7037]

Please explain to your friends how the Dáil is elected and how it allows multiple parties with conflicting interests to be elected.

[@EverettBurger]

Support from Bethesda to Fairfax won't be going anywhere.

[@EverettBurger]

Today's episode of TLDR seems different than their usual work.

[@jonasgraumans2034]

How so?

[@MotoroidARFC]

It seems to imply that keeping the Democrats in place is better for Ukraine. You support Ukraine, don't you?

[@InternalLocuss]

@@MotoroidARFC Thats because keeping Democrats in place is better for Ukraine. One party wants to abandon them and the other aid their freedom. Simple as that.

[@jordanbarefoot]

Great video

[@SgtKaneGunlock]

i've seen a couple Ukraine flags in my town which is neat considering how small it is

[@jacobjgleggy1854]

And I have also seen Russian flags in my town recently 👀

[@Ronnet]

In Europe we are feeling the impact a lot more than in America. Not that I'm complaining, what we are experiencing is nothing compared to what the Ukrainians are dealing with. They're protecting our common values in behalf of us all. If the USA backtracks their support then I vote they lose the title "home of the brave".

[@phoenixyo9987]

Trust me when I say that me and my fellow americans fully support you guys and most especially Ukraine. I live in a small town and I see Ukrainian flags where ever I go. Not even our cringe extremists can override our support. Atleast I hope not, thankfully I think most people of both parties still are all in.

[@VieleGuteFahrer]

You were warned.

[@Davitofrito]

Russia didn't attack nato. Russia wasn't going to attack to Baltics and risk ww3. Ukraine and zelensky need you to give them endless cash and weapons which they can only do by fear mongering. Europe will end up poorer, it's people dying and suffering while elites tell you to shut up because glorious Ukraine is all that matters. We don't have serious leaders in the west and many of them hate their people for daring to complain when policies and programs don't magically work out.

[@shroomyesc]

it's really easy for American pacifists to go "peace and love uwu" when it's not their country and region under threat of Russia. You give Putin even a bit in negotiations, he'll come back in a decade to take more.

[@nothernstar2576]

not even in a decade, 2-3 years max. He'll take until he's allowed to

[@kordellswoffer1520]

Than let him. Ukraine is not worth my country's interest and wider geopolitical goals.

[@nothernstar2576]

@@kordellswoffer1520 if you're in the West, Ukraine is your country's interest and geopolitical goal, because after us, you are next

[@kordellswoffer1520]

@@nothernstar2576 lol don't flatter yourself. Ukrine is not in america or the uk interest. Russia couldn't take us with the help of allies far stronger than they are. The west would steam roll the Russian within a few weeks to months. If the Russians want a fight with us let them, will kill them like the last hostile invaders.

[@nothernstar2576]

@@kordellswoffer1520 doesn't mean they wouldn't try. Hitler also couldn't defeat the allies, but he tried anyway, massacring tens of millions in the process. And he said that he's going to do it once he finishes with us. Even if we only concider the economic side of things, it's much cheaper to finance to bury the Russian war machine(or at this point whatever is left of it) than doing it yourself suffering casualties in both people or economy

[@Archangel657]

Its hard to support sending hundreds of millions to billions in aid to Ukraine when your citizenry is suffering from a recession and bills are piling up.

[@samuelkunle6383]

Great video guys! Keep them coming 🔥🔥💯💯

[@user-ht1vg5we2p]

why are Americans less enthusiastic about Ukraine than when it started? Well, youcould say it is a very short attention span

[@EverettBurger]

Or, Americans are concerned that the longer the war continues, the more likely American troops will be sent in. Some are concerned about Americans dying in a war in eastern Europe.

[@user-ht1vg5we2p]

@@EverettBurger I do not think that is the case for any significanr percentage of the electorate

[@nicholase2868]

@@EverettBurger I can say with near absolute confidence that no American troops will be sent. It's too risky for us to engage directly with Russia. Biden gave the order to get out of Afghanistan, he argued for it during Obama's term. He won't start another war.

[@blublubblub]

​@@EverettBurger Americans are idiots. If Ukraine falls or becomes Putin's puppet or is severely limited in its sovereignty, US troops will DEFINITELY be fighting a war in Eastern Europe, sooner or later. Right now it's Ukraine's defensive war, not America's, it's Ukrainians fighting and dying. Let them fall and American soldiers will follow at some point.

[@blublubblub]

​@@user-ht1vg5we2p yes, that is true. My comment only makes sense if I accept his framing. But a lot of people everywhere are idiots, might as well be a pesimist (a realist).

[@frazzleboi2821]

this is a great video

[@meowingsoup8293]

Very Interesting.

[@joeivo911]

I think we should keep helping Ukraine but also other countries need to help more. USA can’t afford to foot the bill without help.

[@looseycanon]

Noone else has the tech to, though. And as far as helping is concerned. Others have helped. Look at Czechia and Poland, who gave so much already, they have little more to give, without harming operationability of their own armies. Meanwhile, how many tanks are sitting in US reserve?

[@STEP107]

@@looseycanon The usa has given ukraine 54 billion dollars worth of aide, poland only 2 billion. Poland has given basically nothing compared to the usa

[@nicholase2868]

@@STEP107 they are a much smaller country. Its pretty comparable to our contribution when you adjust for GDP.

[@choonbox]

@@STEP107 Poland took in over 3 million ukrainian refugees.

[@STEP107]

@@nicholase2868 Germany gave 3 billion their gdp is 4 trillion, uk gave 5 billion their gdp is 2.2 trillion, france didnt even give 1 billion and their gdp is 3 trillion. The problem still remains why is the usa paying to fix european problems when the europeans aren't even helping

[@Thehouseoffail]

It feels weird that we now live in a world where any Republicans at all would want to reduce defence spending and are promoting closer relations with Putin. This would have been unthinkable 10, 20, 30, 40, or 50 years ago

[@eeddie25]

I mean, a century ago dems were against abolition slavery. History is spiral!

[@adriancampos8640]

The neo-cons are a dying breed.

[@Demicleas]

It's still unthinkable to me. As a Republican. I may be in a younger generation but I thought we were America first? Not fucking child murdering supporter fanatics. Ukraine can have our wepons of war. I mean we made them to destroy Russia so I think they are doing there jobs wonderfully. God bless America even in these times.

[@eeddie25]

@@Demicleas America first means dealing with threats to America while they are far away from America’s borders. Not to surrender the whole world to dictators and then waiting until the problem is unresolvable

[@anssiluomaranta34]

I'm not american but this seems strange to me. It seems like republicans were the ones that historically took a tough stand against soviet union (russia). Ronald Reagan comes to mind. Seems like the roles have reversed? Maybe I'm just too old.

[@constantz7539]

If sending less weapons for slavs to kill each other makes you sad - here is a pumpkin carving thingy. Well said.

[@thebob5240]

This is why on many channels i encourage an US citizens to write your senators and representatives and tell them to vote in support of Ukraine monetarily and materially, if i had my way personally i would be using the Defense Production Act and putting military equipment production into high gear HIMARS, night vision, ammunition, armor, and vehicles.

[@80PercentScottish]

The Ukraine issue is a lot more complex than western media has made it out to be. For example, Ukrainian government has been subjugating its eastern citizens since 2014. I think it's difficult to support a country who themselves aren't exactly innocent and did nothing to prevent this invasion happening.

[@attiepollard7847]

Yes but it's still majority of ukrainians do not want to be invaded by Russia. So no matter what the political affairs of the ukrainians are we should still Force both parties to the negotiation table and agree to consensus

[@80PercentScottish]

@@attiepollard7847 yes i agree, but instead the west have chose the inflammatory path of throwing full support behind Ukraine.

[@diligentone-six2688]

And you think it's right for a Superpower to just simply invade a foreign country that hasn't threatened anybody for years? Georgia hasn't done anything and they lost a portion of their land from the Russians. The Russians will be thrown out in bodybags. End of story.

[@josedeville1335]

As an European , I only told the anti-aid American this: we are paying for that aid with the importation of liquid gas from tke US. In addition, the huge sale of weapons (Himars, F35, etc.) finance this aid and increase the prestige of Americans technology to the detriment of Russian tech.

[@VieleGuteFahrer]

Some countries in Europe still purchase Russian gas and oil lmao. That’s no aid.

[@davidty2006]

Pretty much most european armies want Himars because of it's success in ukraine. Last i heard poland wants a few hundread of them. Thats good money.

[@Davitofrito]

How about you stop doing that. We need that LNG for the east coast and our prices have been going up on everything even before the war. Our economy is better than your but we have serious problems too. Helping foreigners should always come last to helping your own people. We Americans are sick of being world police. We can't afford to tackle student loans, universal healthcare or get communities clean drinking water yet politicians write Ukraine a blank check???

[@airsquadron654]

the $40B funding bill was crazy

[@SheppardOfNumenor]

4:45 there’s an echo in both headphones an audio issue

[@raxo00swing]

its been said before. But all required for evil to win is for the good to do nothing.

[@bassetts1899]

@@noboliNo we're in an uncomfortable situation in Europe. We don't want to rely on USA (especially Macron), but let's be honest we know that we can get more done with them on our side.

[@Starsetter90]

@@noboliNo this is not a “European” problem, it’s a world problem. People like yourself who claim it’s not have probably never opened a history book.

[@ConnorNolan]

@@noboliNo that isn’t how any of that works

[@bassetts1899]

@@noboliNo Venezuela is on a different continent than USA...

[@bassetts1899]

@@noboliNo Are you US American? If so then you might know that USA has historically had a very big interest in stopping Russia from gaining any more power. There are lots of reasons for that. But there's no similar reason for Europe to get involved in Mexico to that degree. You might also be aware that Latin America is sometimes quite hostile to EU intervention, what with being colonised by them and all. They've spent the last few hundred years removing the British, Dutch, Spanish etc. influence from their countries. In contrast, European leaders (mostly) welcome help from the USA. Regardless, several European countries still have territories in the Carribbean with army bases. And yes, they have sent aid.

[@Lando-kx6so]

The US had a disastarous pull out of Afghanistan, the war & Ukraine has been going on for a while now, & there's a cost of living crisis going on right now. To a lot of people it's frustrating to see so much money going to aid in a foreign war when people at home are struggling

[@vampiregamingyt8754]

One of the causes of the crisis was the cut off of grain from Ukraine

[@TheVoiceOfReason93]

The reason why the US pulled out of Afghanistan is precisely because it was a lost cause where too much resource and blood had been wasted, and pulling out at the very least would ensure enough could be available for more pressing and also more worthy investment, like Ukraine, where the Ukrainians are actually very motivated and successfully fighting back against Russia.

[@Silver_Prussian]

The us is desparate for an actual militaty win after all their disasters in lybia,syria, iraq and afghanistan and another one is coming tjat will just solidify the uneffective interventionism.

[@Silver_Prussian]

@@TheVoiceOfReason93 trowing a lot of troops in the meat grinder to gain land is not in any way successful strategy. Like gaining land doesnt mean you will win in any sort of way shape or form.

[@TheVoiceOfReason93]

@@Silver_Prussian Are you describing Russia or the US here? Because that sounds like the current failing Russian strategy in their inva - excuse me, 'Special Failed Operation' in Ukraine.

[@Ddonaldson9]

Just pushing the algorithm here.

[@andreasm5770]

My sick mind interpreted the phrasing of this title very wrong at first reading and I got very concerned, lol...

[@ShockWave101.]

i really hope this channel stays alive

[@kingace6186]

I agree

[@ORO323]

“America should focus on America” would make sense if we actually did that. Improving healthcare is “socialism” and helping graduates with loans is seen as “unfair”.

[@sinan2.71]

I do not understand the isolationist viewpoint. Do the really think more money will come to them because our government isn't spending it elsewhere? This is beyond naive.

[@allergy5634]

Compromise only works when both sides have similarly understandable demands. That is not the case in Russia and Ukraine

[@ionnanskilliorus6877]

That letter form the progressives was written in June.

[@MBBurchette]

Just on the 3/4 miles (~1 km) of residential road approaching my house in Virginia, 9 homes have a flag post or flag pole. I’ve counted a combination of 5 American flags, 3 Virginia state flags, 2 USMC flags, and 3 Ukrainian flags. I don’t see our support wavering anytime soon.

[@Silver_Prussian]

So 3 virtue signaling naive households,nice.

[@JAKE-ng8yr]

@@Silver_Prussian you are russian, for sure your comment is unbiased

[@Silver_Prussian]

@@JAKE-ng8yr sees cyrillic alphabet Hmmm must be a russian

[@looseycanon]

You can't measure support in flags. That costs nothing.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

Lol people flying flags is not proof of anything.

[@GusCraft460]

Republicans seem to have forgotten what “blank check” means.

[@nomad789]

Remember when Republicans used to be against sovijet russia and in support of defending yourself against tyranny? Reagan would be ashamed...

[@alucardofthe9thcircle792]

i can understand where both sides are coming from. one hand the US is struggling with a crime and drug crisis that's turning the sides of many people who were firmly democrat because of how horrible the situations have become, and with the hurricanes and storms that destroyed a good chunk of Florida and overall the nation still economically recovering from the pandemic and the billions we've sent to Ukraine could have helped with, also the fall of Afghanistan and the billions wasted over 20 years is still fresh on peoples mind. But on the other Putin has made up his mind to plunge the world into another war. it wont stop at Ukraine. its like Hitler promising he wont invade Czechoslovakia if he's given some of it and he just invades anyway. If Ukraine doesn't receive help they eventually fall and if a ceasefire is made the Russians will defiantly attack again and say its Ukraine, they needs the HIMARS, Javelins and other equipment that's making it possible for not only for Ukraine to defend itself but push the Russians back to the border. In my opinion its better we supply Ukraine with the equipment they need and it might take another year or 2 but im confident that with combination of sanctions and the overall disaray that Russia is in. that Ukraine will win the war and Russia will not be able to conduct any type of warfare for many years.

[@danielmorton9956]

There is no crime crisis. We went back up to 2016 levels, but crime rates have been declining for decades.

[@roflmywaffles1313]

Only Thing I know for real is people who invested in Defense Contractors before Feb 24 are some lucky bastards I'll tell you hwat

[@JonathanShyman]

ty

[@TheVanpablo79]

Pumpkin carving ending was highly inappropriate.

[@priyajoseph7108]

If Rus wins this war, other authoritarian regimes will start similar invasions.The story that led to WW2 will repeat. Support Ukr now to to ensure global peace and respect to sovereignty.

[@gametvon98]

Nahh just go neutral buddy don't involve into others country problem, War is necessary to achieve peace for more generation Peace is impossible to reach without War

[@gametvon98]

Sacrifice 1 country for Maybe 100 year of Peace just like ww2 after Hiroshima we achieve peace until now its time for WW3 so that in ww4 we might go back as sword or stick

[@burningphoenix6679]

Kevin McCarthy has made it clear he would stop sending aid. He’s bowed to Trump and MTG. A vote for Republican congressmen is a vote for Putin

[@toastbuster9050]

Maybe people care more about cost of living issues for American working class?

[@hs5312]

What goes in Ukraine and Russia is there business, opposition to aid doesn’t mean you support Putin, quite a lot of people are neutral

[@JimSendre]

@@toastbuster9050 the idea that isolationism will somehow make America better is just stupid. the more allies America has the stronger it is.

[@toastbuster9050]

@@JimSendre limited intervention doesn't equal isolationism. I've always hated the isolationism argument. I remember it being used every time neoconservatives wanted to bomb something.

[@JimSendre]

​@@toastbuster9050 you need to stop equating every US intervention like its the same thing. Iraq was a bad foreign policy move. Ukraine isn't. its completely different case. leaving Ukraine on its own is making Europe weaker. and making Europe weaker is making the free world weaker. America needs its allies. so long as it remains democratic and doesn't become a dictatorship with that idiot MAGA herd.

[@owenb8636]

To be frank, a lot of this military equipment was made to deter or possibly fight a war with Russia. I don't know how the GOP can justify the defense budget if the equipment is going to sit around in warehouses doing nothing. This couldn't be a better use of it

[@owenhammond1880]

Does anyone see the irony here? We can spend 2 Trillion dollars and 20 years in a war in the middle east but apparently a war in Europe that we haven't seen since Soviet interventionism in Eastern Europe during the Cold War is where we draw the line.

[@bkc7890]

Right now, there’s a supermajority of representatives in the house voting in favor of support for Ukraine. If the republicans win the house, all that needs to happen is for maybe a half dozen of them to vote in favor of support, assuming all the dems vote in favor. This is by no means unrealistic, especially given the numbers of Republicans currently voting in favor of Ukraine

[@endermeap6488]

That isn’t really true. Even if something has the votes to pass, if house leadership isn’t for it, they can usually kill it before it gets to a vote.

[@TheFinalChapters]

You don't understand how the House works. Bills only get to the floor of the House if the House Leader puts them there. The House Leader is determined by the majority party. So in theory, 40% of Republicans and 100% of Democrats could be in favor of more aid, and it would never materialize.

[@looseycanon]

Until house Republican starts using support for Ukraine as leverage.

[@msl2299]

Wow, I am genuienly dissapointed at how Americans can support some politicians who are so openly pro-dictatorship. I am not surprised by still disappointed.

[@hs5312]

Some people are neutral, not pro dictatorship, the war is not our business.

[@davidty2006]

@@hs5312 It is when it makes money.

[@vitoanania6042]

Up. Don't kill the channel

[@georgemetcalf8763]

For the algorithm! And yeah, I don't think any party wants to be seen as abandoning those we support though Republicans get away with it such as the Kurds in Iraq, Trump's caving to the Taliban, Nixon/Ford with South Vietnam.

[@kordellswoffer1520]

Trump didn't cave to the taliban. He signed an agreed upon agreement for us withdrawal. The Republicans didn't abandon the Kurds. Nixon and Ford did abandon the south but the south had ample time to prepare before the US left and they were overrun by the north.

[@kingdedede333]

Crimea is rightful Albanian territory

[@davidty2006]

hang on since when did that happen?

[@merlinbotha363]

Abandon is a strong word

[@kingace6186]

a strong word but it is an accurate one

[@Emanon...]

Corporate interests and political convenience always trumps popular support in the US... Think of any subject in dire need of reform and wholly supported by the population, and then tell me how Congress has reacted to said subject.

[@MPedich]

I never thought of say this, but... hopefully the military industrial complex will not allow its profits to disappear.

[@shonk3317]

As an American, I hope everyone from other countries will lower their expectations for America to continue support at current levels. There is a growing feeling of isolationism and combined with inflation , not a winning combination.

[@toastbuster9050]

Me too! Europe can't just rely on big daddy US...

[@rodmarker2071]

As a Brit , if you do lower support, then don't ask us to support your wars in the middle east or wherever- sorry for that, but we will be too busy supporting Ukraine to the end . If Putler wins he will be going to next country he has his eyes on . Soon you'll be alone if Europe goes.

[@toastbuster9050]

@@rodmarker2071 Most of us didn't support those either so no harm done. In due time UK will be the middle east anyway.

[@SK-hq6ux]

@@rodmarker2071 support will wain in the UK too, we are going through an economic crisis and although there is still sentiment towards Ukraine, at the end of the day people care about what is on their table.

[@ChrispyNut]

Reducing support would cause it to drag out longer, continuing the impact it's having on the cost of living crisis which is impacting the citizens (economic reason) and increasing the death and suffering of Ukrainians, Russians and others [volunteers]. I can see why the arms industry would want a marginal reduction, if my top of head, pluck from thin air assumptions are correct, that a little less per year over more years would equate to a great total. Also, the longer it's dragged out, the greater the likelihood that Russia becomes a failed state (which could be disastrous, globally), rather than simply ending a regime and severely hobbling a major global power (the fates of both, probably already cemented).

[@marcelthevirginian1656]

Excellent comment. Also, as much as I dislike Putin, we shouldn't root for Russia's collapse. If Russia did collapse 1917 style, China would likely look to grab some land. It does have border disputes with Russia. That's land I'd rather have in the hands of an increasingly impotent authoritarian country than the world's most powerful totalitarian state.

[@nunyvanstta135]

Its already been dragging out for too long now anyway.

[@BamZoom]

Couldn't happen soon enough

[@pointly]

I'm conflicted. I do believe the US needs to focus more on itself. Especially with the economy going the way it is. But I don't want to abandon Ukraine. They deserve our support and we should stand up for nations to live independent and free.

[@talltroll7092]

I don't think that the 2 goals conflict. A lot of equipment and ammunition is being used in Ukraine, and replacing it is going to generate a lot of work for various defence companies all over the world, and a lot of that work is going to end up being done in the US. High skill, high pay jobs are always good for an economy. Also, don't be fooled by the nominal dollar values attatched to some of the aid packages that have been announced, the ACTUAL cost to the US is often far lower then the headline figure

[@Agent_N7]

The amount of aid already given us enough to for Ukraine to win BUT it will take longer if no additional aid is given. If we want a swift solution we need to keep giving Ukraine aid. Then we need to help Ukraine rebuild after the war and assist Zelinski in passing the reforms needed to join NATO and the EU after the war. Also, Ukraine is the breadbasket of Europe and good relations are gonna be even more necessary as climate change hits agriculture world wide.

[@rockfire1669]

Both parties have histories of not ending a war and just continue the war for profits. Edit:only public outcry has stopped the war’s we participate in

[@kingace6186]

Semantics of an anti-interventionist

[@longfang98]

I mean, the Ukraine situation is the perfect live fire test of US military equipment, why would they want to stop now?

[@jaredparnell3546]

I’m an American I kind of don’t care about foreign wars when my state is dealing with a housing crisis

[@erikjohnson9075]

The portrayal of the progressive letter is a bit disingenuous as they wrote in support of Ukraine maintaining its territorial integrity while asking Biden to keep diplomatic efforts up so the conflict doesnt a) escalate and b) waste more lives than is absolutely necessary for Ukraine to keep its territory.

[@Davitofrito]

And it got walked back within 24hrs because the progressive leading the charge said her aids did it all behind her back which is just BS. The real truth is the anti war movement is nothing next to the shiny new office and committee. seats. That progressives and conservatives that don't tow the party line, get attacked so forcefully just means warhawks are scared the American people don't care about Ukraine. Gas prices, soaring crime, wide open borders, election integrity, abortion. The list is long but Ukraine for the average Joe may as well not exist and in a few years who knows. Imagine spending several hundred billion dollars on another failed war halfway around the world in a country people barely know exists until five minutes ago.

[@ABR]

I know I make fun of the UK a lot on here, but this is shameful and while I get being against the amount of spending right now, some of these guys need to just move to Russia already.

[@orangypteco8858]

I really hope Republicans grow a backbone and realize helping Ukraine helps America and the world in the long term.

[@somebonehead]

Why don't you start, have at 'em champ

[@Sujal9253]

It helps sovereignty and freedom to live on your own terms but it doesn't help the global economy

[@orangypteco8858]

@@somebonehead I'm doing what I can myself. Idk if you enjoy authoritarian regimes invading other countries but i sure don't.

[@MrVinhPhan]

Not this generation of Republican. Too man people scared of losing their seats

[@somebonehead]

@@orangypteco8858 I'll say it again, we JUST pulled out of Afghanistan after 20 years. We don't need to involve ourselves in another squabble. Down with this military industrial complex.

[@tyranneous]

"No" :)

[@tyranneous]

@@noboliNo That attitude worked out well in 1939, didn't it? ;) It is also worth considering that it doesn't serve the USA's interests to have NATO members suffering and otherwise occupied, and most of them are in Europe. Not to mention things like international trade. Also: the military industrial complex in the USA will continue to lobby for support for Ukraine. There's only so many AR-15s you can sell to the domestic US market. That isn't going away any time soon.

[@prettitalented]

I'm not a Republican but I don't agree with the Democratic numbers here , most people don't agree that we should defend Ukraine, we agree that giving some money and guns is ok but that's not the same as defending there country. I don't think anyone would be ok with us sending American troops to Ukraine. I want Ukraine to win but we do need to know where that money is going and it should be documented considering they are suing not to pay student loan debt

[@robertemumford]

A cool topic for another video would be what could Biden do for Ukraine if Republicans in the House and Senate blocked funding to Ukraine.

[@welcometoWWW]

Time for Europe to start pitching in $$$

[@MusaMecanica]

America makes a ton of money selling weapons for every war. For the republicans, its always about money, so if enough of their friends are profiting from the war, they'll keep sending aid. As someone who pays taxes is the US but can't vote (foreigner) I personally don't think it's America's responsability to protect Ukraine, but it woudn't be smart to have a precendent where Russia does whatever it wants either. Most of my taxes already goes for military spending, let them use it for something good for once.

[@kevincronk7981]

If this channel is going to succeed something probably needs to change, the algorithm just never recommends TLDR US videos to me, I have to look for them myself

[@issiahrankin5926]

You could always just subscribe and hit the bell. 😂