Are The Canucks Contenders or PRETENDERS?

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[@RobTalksHockey]

Guaranteed Canucks Auto Pack 🐋 therthcompany.com/collections/all Are the Canucks "Contenders" or "Pretenders"? And what else does this team need?

[@pooblog]

How many dogs do you have rob?

[@glennhankins6927]

The NHL season is an 82 game marathon. To be elevating Vancouver to contender status after they just left the start line is foolish. What do they need? If they somehow make the playoffs, they have no toughness. They'd be swatted around like mosquitoes.

[@michaelmcbride2670]

The Leafs might have something to say about that 😂

[@JBDay-bd8cu]

​@@glennhankins6927pretty much what happens to my penguins every year they made the playoffs the last several seasons

[@debuthunter5389]

Outside Contenders. What they need: A bigger body of work across a longer period. The pieces are there to push.

[@TheMajinV]

After watching them beat my Habs last night, honestly not even upset. The Canucks are a treat to watch this season, and I'd love to see them keep going and translate this success into a deep playoff run. Lord knows Vancouver is due for another one.

[@mvd4436]

Habs and Canucks fans. One of the few Canadian fanbases that get along.

[@johnclaudevondon5333]

Don’t look past Sergei Gonchar’s impact on the team. Him and Tocchet were Big parts in the pens cups! Both as players and coaches.

[@Ravakeksis]

Canucks fans needed this.

[@TGriffiths-ve6nw]

It's temporary.

[@benguin_]

Rob already planning the parade 😂

[@kingkeno7127]

Last season we use backup goaltender and missed by 6 game. If we dint have injured demko we would made playoffs

[@thomasng8953]

@@kingkeno7127 Not really. The defense was awful last year.

[@mvd4436]

This is the most overused snark in pro sport.

[@evanfrozone]

@@mvd4436what an odd thing to say or care about

[@JBDay-bd8cu]

Shannon of the hockey guy channel would be the first one for hoping for that parade

[@stevenmiller3992]

Petty, Hughes, Miller and even Brock have been getting so much attention meanwhile both Demko and Desmith are putting on Master Class goaltending clinics almost every night… Ian clarke has truly turned our keepers into a 2 headed monster. Demko is potentially the best goalie in the league when he’s on his game. He is literally unbeatable some nights. It’s mind blowing. Hronek has also been an amazing pick up who fits in PERFECTLY. It’s definitely early to be calling these guys a cup contender but you can’t deny they’re extremely dangerous if they get in. Which they will. playoff demko will be unbelievable- but we’re just enjoying the ride for now 👍, it’s a long season God bless Patrik Allvin, Jim Rutherford, and Rick Tocchet

[@ryosukeli9047]

It's definitely exciting times for Canucks fans but still need to have a better eye test. We'll wait and see. One step at a time

[@joeynova9896]

If they can talk about a basement dweller like the Oilers to be cup contenders they can say a top team like Vancouver to be cup contenders.

[@Etanyos]

As an Oilers fan, Vancouver is easily Canada's best bet at a Stanley Cup out of any of the seven teams right now! Hopefully they can keep up this awesome performance and go into the playoffs as the #1 seed in the west!

[@ratiquette]

How are you feeling about this statement a month later? Looking at that 10 game win streak from afar, I'm starting to believe we as Canucks/Oilers fans are in for some very dramatic hockey down the stretch

[@Etanyos]

@@ratiquette I still think Vancouver is currently the best Canadian team. While Edmonton and Winnipeg may be hotter than the Canucks, I still think Van is the most complete team

[@CanuckGod]

As someone who's originally from Winnipeg and also a Canucks fan for the last 2 decades or so, it's really nice to see both the Canucks and Jets right at the top of the NHL standings, this has lined up to be a banner season so far for the two teams I cheer for, just hoping this continues into the playoffs. For me, it would be a win-win if the Canucks and Jets faced each other in the Western Conference Final, though admittedly I'd cheer for Vancouver just a bit more.

[@keir13]

Nearly 40 years of watching this team has me on edge and I keep waiting for the bottom to fall out but I honestly don’t remember seeing them play this well as a unit. The 1994 run was great because they shouldn’t have made it that far but the sheer will of Linden and McLean and the boys made it happen. The 2011 run was great because the twins were on top of their game and we had some great second tier players in Kesler, Bieksa, Burrows, etc, but we still also had guys like Aaron Rome. This season feels totally different. Everyone is on the same page from management on down. Watching the Canucks transition out of their own end is a thing of beauty. As you said, another solid dman could make a huge difference but otherwise I don’t think there’s anything about this team that I would change. Outside of the Toronto and Philly games this season, they’ve been good even when they’ve played a little sloppy and that, to me, is the measure of a good team. When you can pull off wins when you’re not at your best. Ya love to see it!

[@ethanparker7900]

that 2011 team sure was the dream team with the twins, kesler, luongo, burrows, bieksa, raymond, samuelsson, hamhuis, salo, rypien, schneider and glass and head coach alain vigenault. I was never much of a canucks fan but i will say that 2011 run was pretty fun to watch when it was happening and it is quite fascinating looking back at it

[@nucks4life11]

Been a fan for 30 years now and haven't been more excited about their start.

[@keir13]

@@nucks4life11 me neither! I’m 41 years old and I got SUPER into hockey the year Linden was drafted (1988) and have followed every move ever since. There’s something different about this start though. The Canucks fan in me wants to be cautious but, barring any major injuries, I don’t see a real weak spot in their game. I’d say my favourite part of this season that almost no one is talking about is how good Casey DeSmith has been. I think the last time we had a backup that I had real faith in was Cory Schneider!

[@nucks4life11]

@@keir13 I'm cautious as well. I dont wanna jinx it, but this team could be one of the best we've had.

[@mackielunkey2205]

Another part about this team is that unlike 2011, there isn’t a guy you could hate because of their typical dirtiness, like Burrows, Lapierre and especially Torres. Maybe Petey or Miller at times, but that’s about it. And I think that’s really important because it makes the Canucks easier to cheer for.

[@fry-guy_1235]

This team is the first team to excite me since the 2011 run. It seems all things are clicking, props to the coaching staff and it seems scoring depth is good this year with guys like lafferty and höglander scoring and a decent pickup in casey desmith. I just hope there is cap created for ep40

[@midgetplant281]

Demko has always been criminally underrated. Pretty much any goalie can be good on a good team with good defence. But Demko has had trash defence and still played phenomenally. When he was injured last year, the canucks absolutely crumbled. He is the equivalent to Hellebuyck or Saros in that he does not have good defence in front of him but continuously steals games. This is coming from an oilers fan btw

[@jeodoretoel]

it's honestly astounding how Tocchet came into the org as one of the most hated individuals, but turned it around so fast. Admittedly he was hated for the wrong reason -- it wasn't his fault Bruce had the rug pulled under him the way it was. Tocchet's professionalism and attitude towards the team is visibly important to him which is great and the fans respect that. reading the title I would argue that you're jinxing the team, but you're making sense. I want to see what they're like at the Christmas break before answering your question Great video tho!

[@ajbolt7]

Yeah I definitely had a good bit of disdain for Tocchet because of the circumstance. It was impossible not to like Boudreau, and management's frankly disgusting treatment of him made the departure infuriating. Especially with how he was a dead man walking for WEEKS as they just waited and waited until the hardest parts of the schedule were over before removing him and bringing in Tocchet. Since Tocchet was management's guy and management were being such assholes, definitely a challenge separating Tocchet from them. And then the commitment to (what I considered) "meaningless" wins at the end of the season when we were so far out of a playoff spot and had a great shot at a top 10 draft pick made it even more annoying. But I'll admit it, the focus on getting those wins was worth it. Getting the team used to the systems leading up to this season has clearly paid dividends.

[@debuthunter5389]

Seen it before in other sports, when a coach comes in to replaced another loved coach. You know the remedy for all things? Success. With success, all is forgiven.

[@SRGNTSLUGHTR]

Thanks Rob!! Long time Canucks fan. Go Canucks Go. 🙏🙏.

[@Rikkan7]

Just wanna say i've been watching your stuff for a couple years now, it's crazy how much better quality your stuff has got, you're better on the mic, stats are more interesting and relevant, etc. Keep up the good work dude!

[@breakawaybooks4752]

The growth of a young core, coupled with a management team who clearly has a good eye for current talent with which to surround said core = success.

[@ANT4G0NIST]

Love when you talk about the Canucks. Great vid

[@nanaimoshoerepair]

This is the season it all begins

[@brandonr.4910]

Demko is (not joking) the best goalie I have seen since Hasek.

[@jafari6658]

Ya Demko is everything for the nucks - everything is coming from him. Hoping he doesn't get hurt! Cause this has been exciting GCG

[@wasifsarker4312]

Analysis is insane love u rob!

[@erikmardiste]

The canucks finally have a team manager. Someone who knows how to being out the best in players, from what I've seen from afar(Australia). Long suffering canucks fan from mid 70s

[@chadpyett6441]

Well done gets one thinking of good times and great games to come

[@JohnSuave]

These are the kinds of videos I love man, keep up the great work 👍

[@andrewneilson8461]

Go off Rob!!! This year is feeling special... Like the Blues cup run.

[@brentnyeste2949]

Are you serious the blues were terrible and went on an unbelievable run in the second half. The Canucks don’t even compare to what the blues did when they won the cup.

[@jonogunn]

Been waiting for this video!

[@KwonJi-won]

Almost at 100k congrats rob

[@ellomate..]

fans of rob knows this was a canucks channel at the start! love the video mate from australia

[@berniegoresimposter8137]

I started watching hockey regularily in 2021 and had to choose my hometown canucks since thats all thats on at my house on hockey night couldn't be happier for this squad

[@joshewert13]

Biggest take for me this year are the works of the Sedins on the pp and gonchar on the defence. They’re getting amazing coaching and it’s showing.

[@sawyerhaber9474]

quinn is so underrated

[@canuckerbird]

That'll change this year when he wins the Norris! If Karlsson can win the Norris based on his offense last season, then Quinn should win considering he's on pace to shatter 100 points and plays better defense.

[@SethLoeppky-yh7pf]

Amazing video as per usual

[@benkenobi_]

I dont think they'll go too far, you never wanna peak early but they are DEFINITELY on the upswing and im very happy for all the fans

[@benchow8851]

Canucks finally found a coach who has the team playing the correct way. We were trying to run-and-gun under Boudreau and it never worked, as we would build a quick lead only to lose the game after 60min. We're paying more attention defensively...

[@pooblog]

great vid!

[@mikemcclearyify]

Tocchet is setting himself up for a Jack Adams. I know there's still a lot of hockey to play, but he has this team motivated and firing on all cylinders. And I'm saying this as a die-hard Leafs fan.

[@TotallyDzvil]

Those to eastern road trips in January and February will be pretty hard for them

[@samueladams5243]

the more we wear the skate jersey the more luck we have 🤷‍♂️ maybe its the ghost of gino 94 revenge. im predicting we play rangers in the final and win at home in 7. peterson on a penalty shot, he becomes a vancouver legend.

[@kianruda3292]

i’m waiting till they play a couple top contenders vegas boston etc to see how we do against the best but right now i think we can definitely make the playoffs

[@PickleOfficially]

Totally valid on waiting. These are avg teams we're playing against, not true top team playoff teams yet so it'll be interesting on how they play under actual pressure this season but definitely a playoff team this year for sure from the looks of it.

[@matthewsecord7641]

It's the shockingly different approach to defense due to the McDavid effect. Since McDavid, the insane amount of high risk skill unleashed in the NHL It's just mind boggling. Now, entertaining....hail yes. It's become insane with virtually no defense.

[@ivavines7097]

Ngl this got me really pumped

[@pegasus6116]

They are going to be scary good in the future Kuzmenko - Pettersson - Lekkerimaki Podkolzin - Miller - Boeser Hoglander - Raty - Mikheyev Bains - Aman - Lafferty Hughes - Willander Pettersson - Hronek Soucy - Brzustewicz Demko Silovs

[@michaelmcbride2670]

Whether they are a contender remains to be seen but they are without doubt a good team.

[@bugsydacanuck840]

Finally my team got it together

[@thomasng8953]

The one thing they are missing is a tough guy. Myers is big. But not a "tough guy" who can fight. You need someone like that in the playoffs so they don't bully your star players.

[@sonylyons7888]

They will break the Canada Stanley Cup drought in the next 3 years

[@nbascoldestmoments24]

W video there my fave team

[@rubberduckie5518]

another big part of the canucks turnaround is tyler myers. he’s making elite defensive plays never before seen. his contract is up this year and if he keeps this up, someone will overpay for him.

[@noc2rn]

Right now they've picked up points in ALL western conference games. All 4 of their losses have come against Eastern conference teams lol

[@idrissuhrheinrich6633]

I don’t want to get into the cup contender topic yet cause Ik shit can just hit fan but this team is playing a lot harder faster and better than all the teams I’ve seen in my time of watching Canucks scince 2015.

[@ajbolt7]

You started watching the Canucks in 2015??

[@idrissuhrheinrich6633]

@@ajbolt7 well I’m 18 so yeah I did start watching in 15-16 season when I was 10

[@idrissuhrheinrich6633]

@@ajbolt7 this team looks better than that team that went to 7 vs Vegas I feel

[@idrissuhrheinrich6633]

@@ajbolt7 is there a problem with that ?

[@jonathangermain4143]

Vancouver makes me think that Edmonton still might have hope.

[@tcmanchan]

They do. But they just don't want to be playing vancouver any time soon

[@joeynova9896]

Sorry man but Edmonton's team isn't constructed the way Vancouver's team is. Vancouver has a solid defense now, probably the best goalie tandem in the NHL and has four lines that can score.

[@felixdarveau2613]

craziest thing abt carey price in 2021 is that he played all playoffs games with no cartilage without him the habs are getting swept by toronto in the first round

[@buggernut3643]

Engrave Tocchet’s name on the Adams Trophy now.

[@hockeyjake44]

I agree on the condition that they add 1 or two solid defenders by trade deadline. They can't rely on demko to put up a .940 every night (even tho he's amazing)

[@zjsz4954]

The voodoo worked, we passed the bad luck on to the oilers

[@jblythe7004]

Yeah they look good right now, but there's the injury problem. There's still a long way to go in the season. And by the end of the season, things change.

[@tarandosanjh11]

This Canucks team is so fun to watch, If they can a rhd I really do think they can be a serious contender.

[@carloscraigito7384]

IMO the canucks are a lock for the playoffs THIS SEASON. Especially since Edmonton doesn't seem to be making it this year...

[@RevanBC]

Still plenty of time to go on a couple of win streaks and get back into it. It's not even January.

[@mvd4436]

Ah yes. Because next season , Demko Hughs and Petterson are going to suck

[@chrismdb5686]

​@@RevanBCObviously it's mathematically possible, but it's very unlikely they'd rebound to be point they'd threaten the Canuck's playoff spot.

[@RevanBC]

@@chrismdb5686 why? It's only November lol

[@chrismdb5686]

@@RevanBC You realize the Canucks (should they keep their pace) are on track to be a top team in the league in points at the end of the year? It's not just a matter of Edmonton turning it around, they'd have to be near perfect time even be a threat to Vegas or Vancouver

[@eonk5703]

Remeber when Sedin era began when we had Luongo? I still think that we had a chance to build a dynasty If only we had won the first time in the beginnng of the sedin eras, then we could have had more after that What I mean is that, chances don't wait. We should go after and grab it with boldness while carving it out carefully We may have the right person on the wheel now, so jumping at taking chances at the right moment would be crucial

[@jontarr7444]

Blues fan here, so no skin in game. But the eye test don't lie: the Canucks are a playoff team. My guess is 2nd round loss, then keep building. Best to em

[@casualgamer1991]

I read somewhere that the analytics show that the Canucks cant sustain this pace up. BUT I think they will be pretty good this year. A healthy Demko is very very scary

[@TotallyDzvil]

I don’t think cup contender is just yet but I feel like they they probably make the playoffs and maybe even go on a little run maybe win the first series whoever they play maybe the second but probably get out after that but they are super good right now.

[@MrSupahLMFAO]

I predict they will be out in the second round. The team leaders are still too young and inexperienced but 2-3 more years and they'll be set for the cup.

[@joeynova9896]

Edmonton is in the basement and people still think they are a cup contender. Lol! TSN & Sportsnet 🤡🤡

[@ManMythLegend123]

You must be happy! Gg Vancouver they stole edmonton’s Mojo on thier first game 👌🏻 hate being oilers fan rn 😂 next video tell us what you think is going on in Edmonton i would like your opinion tbh

[@MrCoda47]

Yeah, I keep telling them they're a contender and watch how fast it turns around and it goes to their head and the next thing you know that's it they're no longer a contender.

[@tydance8865]

i've wanted the canucks to bring the cup to vancouver since 2009 when the twins swept my blues in the first round ten years later we finally reached the promise land it's time for canuck fans to taste victory as well!!

[@rb2093_]

7:38 little dis on EDM lol

[@RobTalksHockey]

I made the script before the firing lol

[@tylerdurden4006]

Gotta love the tears of salt from leafblowers...😂😂😂

[@AJ-ox6yi]

Your graphic has Part 2 Canucks "Forumula" instead of "formula"

[@Cobra85291]

Who are the defence prospects that we have?

[@JB-nz4cz]

Sometimes you gotta gamble on a coach who literally ran a gambling ring 😂

[@deanmalkewich2366]

Let’s settle down a bit. They got the Oilers for 6 points when the oilers wouldn’t have beat the Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs. Besides that, they’ve won two games against legit playoff teams, the Stars and the Panthers. 4 of their next 5 games are against the Kraken and Sharks, so expect the hype to continue. I have them as a wildcard team by April.

[@Xyy2387]

They have all the key pieces. 1C, 2 C, top pairing D, elite G. Couple that with 3 solid wingers in the top 6. Serviceable second pairing D and a solid backup G. They need to flip Beau for a stop gap top 4 until Willander is ready, Tanev for 2 yrs is realistic. They could also bolster the LW. Bottom 6 is solid. Coaching staff is solid. There's no reason why they can't make some noise if they make the playoffs, which I predict they will.

[@THEREDHOTWRECK]

People forget how terrible and incompetent things were for him in Arizona. Vancouver had some good talent. They needed the right coach to bring out the best in them. Just look at what Cronin has done in Anaheim.

[@jackyboi8832]

If you look at the top 5 players with most points this season 3 of them are Canucks, 1 Elias Petterson, 4 Quinn Hughes, 5 JT Miller

[@dingbatrambozo7749]

i have been watching this team since '85. A strange sort of Stockholm syndrome has set in. I don't think I even actually WANT them to win a cup. I don't know what I would do. Im never comfortable when we are winning...that is not the team that I have loved for 38 years and counting. Failure is comforting. It is like going home. that being said, a little reinforcement on the blue line is all that is needed

[@Secondhandelbows]

Flames stomped vancouver....😅

[@bigfootjuice8832]

Post and crossbar is NOT a stat to use... It could have led to either 30 goals or 30 complete misses.. When missing the net you could also send the other team on a break.. This is why Analytics do not work in hockey...

[@daporter84]

I I've been saying this is our year forever it's bound to be true eventually

[@gordsexton6781]

The Canucks had a lot of bad luck in previous years, but their luck has been great this season. There's no doubt about this. The goaltending has also been great. If the goaltending had been good when Bruce Boudreau was coaching the last year, I believe that he would still be the coach today. However, I'm concerned about the playoffs. I think this year's Canucks is comparable to the 2011 Canucks regarding their talent. I really hoped the Canucks would add a really tough guy in the trade deadline this year but they didn't. I believe this is the main factor that stopped the Canucks from winning the Cup. Their powerplay dried up against Boston. I don't approve of fighting, but it's still part of the game. I recently had a look at a video that did a fabulous job covering the 2011 finals. At the end of game 6, Brad Marchand was pounding Daniel Sedin. The game was almost over, the result of the game was decided -- why not have someone beat the snot out of Marchand? (No, no -- I'm not against Marchand. In fact, Brad would have been a great addition to the Canucks, as well as other players like him). When I watched the game in 2011, i thought "Where is Sergio Momesso when we need him?". There had to be someone on that 2011 team who could've done something. When the powerplay dried up (it was incredible against San Jose), it's too bad the Canucks couldn't counterattack another way -- but they couldn't. Earlier this year, I believed the Canucks would make the playoffs but probably lose in 6 games in the first round. I think they may go further now; nevertheless, I think they are probably 3 years from seriously challenging f

[@gordsexton6781]

...for the Cup. I think they need more toughness. I know Rick Tocchet will do the best he can -- but he can't go out on the ice and fight someone. Who knows? Maybe if the Canucks get some good bounces, and their goaltending is as good as in the "Bubble year", they will ... They will .. go a lot further than I expect.

[@Windyyyyyyyyy]

Says a lot how coaching changes a team

[@videogamevalley7523]

Jus proves that you can have all the talent but with no discipline it doesn’t matter

[@stevocanuck]

2 game losing streak ehile flames and oilers are heating up... lets see how they overcome this

[@jerrylee3887]

OEL was the main hingerance to their D Core.

[@frkayso]

To replace Noah jullsen canucks should bring Nikita zadorov or zach bagosion or Erik Johnson would be huge defensively and sive

[@merc340sr]

Tocchet probably beats up his players if they don't perform.

[@Randomizer903]

Sometime in mid-november, they remembered "oh hey! We're the Canucks" and regressed into painful mediocrity.

[@CanuckGod]

And then got out of the slump and have been lighting it up since, while Vegas and LA are mired in their own slumps... if Vancouver can play even moderate to very good hockey from mid-January onward, they should have at least the division on lock, and possibly outlast Winnipeg and Colorado for tops in the West going into the playoffs.

[@patrickbaklava7297]

Bro really says Vanquver lol

[@marvinschwartz9159]

Shocking how having more than 2 nhl-defenders on your roster makes defense and goaltending better. Scoring is so overrated. Canucks scored a lot last year too, and just having soucy, cole and hronek made them a contender. With good defense you get more puck possession, more offensive time, less chances for goalies to make a mistake. Seriously, teams pay them but fans are underrating 2nd-3rd pair d-men soooo much

[@buggernut3643]

Tocchet also seems to have slapped the undisciplined nonsense out of Myers.

[@alexbritch02]

​@@buggernut3643there's some mistakes he's making still but looks much better! I've always liked the long reach Myers has, he's using it this season for sure

[@marvinschwartz9159]

i mean myers doesnt have to be a superstar on 3rd pair, but poolman and myers on the first 2 lines with like 20min+ of ice time is nothing you can compete with @@buggernut3643

[@Dexter037S4]

Rob, you've jinxed them, you know that right?

[@likeloureed]

They’re due for a run

[@StreetFig]

Too early for optimism. As a lifelong 'Nucks follower, I've seen too many disappointments. There is still plenty of time left this year for the real team to show up...

[@timw4369]

You have to get through November then stats show that 85;percent of the teams in the playoffs make it.

[@shaylelarue787]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO !!!!!

[@mikesk5019]

FINALLY CANUCKS WILL WIN THE CUP THIS YEAR.

[@brentnyeste2949]

Not even close, they are not winning the cup they will regress

[@nolananderson4782]

How interested are you in the Canucks acquiring Zadorov?

[@brentnyeste2949]

All the bounces going their way this season and it will eventually balance itself out. Their penalty kill is still terrible and they have benefited from some suspect reffing getting way more power plays than their opponents. A couple of injuries and this team is in trouble. I wouldn’t call them contenders just yet. Last I saw you can’t win a cup in November.

[@robbiecomo5953]

canucks gonna fail hard second half of the season like always

[@martinjohnny2370]

Van should get zadorov

[@ManMythLegend123]

Imagine nhl with no cap, who would win the cup?

[@thehitstorychannel]

Have to be good to be lucky

[@joeynova9896]

Sportsnet and TSN as usual sleeping on the Canucks. They would rather keep stroking McDavid whether his team is playing good or bad.

[@markfitzurka9995]

A little early for this video. I am afraid that you are going to jinx your team