Are there distinctions of sin in hell?

[@ctcity1477]

I pray everyday that all of you have a wonderful day and life and that God blesses you all.

[@dalecasselman7356]

Thank you CT. May the Lord richly bless you Brother.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Praying for us does not help us nor you, you need to find a Way to remove your sins and you do have sins otherwise you would not be here, you would be in Heaven............Falun Dafa

[@jakesolis8835]

Missing R. C. Sproul...

[@simontherockpeter2134]

Dd S... Why are you here

[@dalecasselman7356]

I just watched him two nights ago on youtube God bless you Jake.

[@NVRAMboi]

I'm neither reformer or 'calvinist', but I enjoy his sermons. He was an exceptional teacher. He's likely brought hundreds/thousands to Christ. As he might say, I expect he's revelling in eternal bliss right now, soaking up the brilliant light and love of God's glory with Christ and his angels.

[@hr2r805]

@max marrero believers are not in the grave...

[@littleandrew7519]

John 19:11 Jesus answered him, “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above. Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the GREATER sin.”

[@lucashack5318]

Commit one sin and you are guilty of them all. Luckily Jesus died for my sins and rose for my justification. He placed his laws on my heart and those laws help me love him everyday because I could never be perfect like him. They remind me of how merciful he is. Lord have mercy on me a sinner. Praise Jesus for shedding his blood for our sins.

[@yzmaronmione]

I love how you put it. Amen

[@lucashack5318]

@@yzmaronmione Thank you, sister! All the glory goes to Jesus Christ!

[@TheMuni777]

Committing one sin does not make you guilty of them all. This is exactly what they are talking about in the video. It does make you a lawbreaker, because you have broken the whole law. But that is not to say that you become guilty of committing every single sin.

[@lucashack5318]

@@TheMuni777 James 2:10 KJV "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." I'll take God's word for it. Jesus's perfect work covers our sin so we don't have to be perfect. Praise Jesus for dying for my sins, and rising for my justification!

[@armandoalfaro686]

@@lucashack5318 yes correct Jesus covers all sin, For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become ( guilty of all of it. ) The key is “guilty of all of it” this is referring to breaking the unity of the law And what affirms this is For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. (James 2:11, KJV) ( “transgressor of the law” ) meaning you broke the unity of it. Hope that makes sense.

[@flower18777]

This is why we all need Jesus Christ. Our sin debt was paid in full by the Lord. Its the most beautiful gift anyone can ever receive.

[@EvangelicalGospelEspanol]

If sinners must give an account and suffer the repercussions for every sin committed against God, can you just imagine the vastness of sins committed by individuals in this 21st century.

[@elephanttrunk5372]

Probably very similar to Ppl before.

[@philipbuckley759]

@@elephanttrunk5372 exactly......

[@nikokapanen82]

Vastness, yes, infinite, no.

[@handyman7297]

Or in a lifetime

[@dalecasselman7356]

I would think that it would have something to do with how much knowledge you were given.. But remeber that only those that are lost will be punished for their sins. There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus.

[@angloaust1575]

Such shall receive the greater Damnation

[@philipbuckley759]

Luke 12.47 New International Version "The servant who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. this verse pretty much sums up this subject.....

[@jeffforsythe9514]

We all think that this planet was created for us to be fun seekers, sorry, not even close. This place is very very serious and is about suffering. Falun Dafa

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Not true, all of God's rules were not made so that He could beat us up, they were given so that we would listen and feel good by being good. Go slap a child's face, it is not punishment that stops you, it is the knowledge that you will feel terrible after, the same as don't play with fire, kindness.

[@richardcash9099]

What about James 2:10? For whoever shall keep the whole Law, but shall stumble in one point, he has become guilty of all.

[@markdaniels1730]

If you read the whole chapter in context it is basically teaching the same thing that Sproul said. All sin is sin. If you break one commandment but not another you are still a law-breaker, but that does not mean that all sins carry the same weight.

[@richardcash9099]

@@markdaniels1730 I have reread the whole chapter and it doesn't say that. It talks about discrimination, faith without deeds, mercy triumphing over judgement and breaking the law. If you become guilty of all that must mean every sin that's listed in the commandments.

[@dalecasselman7356]

James was writing to Jewish converts to Christianity, that are in exile. This was not written to gentiles that never had the law. In fact this was written to let them know that they are free from the law of condemnation, and if they decided to go back to keeping the law, then there would be condemnation from not keeping it all because they would not have been saved to begin with. Once saved always saved. God does not mistakingly save someone and then they reject Him or vice versa. But, of these that were truly converted, they would remain under grace as they are led by the Spirit and no longer under law. Again, when we see the word law, we know it is addressed to Jews and not Gentiles. Although all doctrine is good for teaching. Today, I see alot of Christians that keep the sabbath and insist that we are to do so. are thery under condemnation, after being saved by grace? I doubt it, as if it were the case, then Christ died in vain. All sins, once for all time are paid for those that are in Christ Jesus. Are there any sins that would escape this promise? No. Are there Christians that are saved and continue to live in sin as though they are not saved. Doubtful. There would be a marked change in a saved person as they are regenerated, given a new heart of righteousness, and the mind of Christ. it would be impossible for one to walk in continual fellowship with Christ and still wallow in sin. Can we stumble? By all means, but we don't enjoy it, nor do we wallow in it. This would be as vile to the Christian born of God, as when a dog returns to its own vomit. We may still sin at times, but we are no longer sinners. Yes you read that right, as we are called the righteousness of God that isd in Christ Jesus. The lost remain sinners and love sin. In fact they hate the righteousness that comes from above. But they love their own self righteousness, which of course is canal.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Nonsense, just another misunderstanding. Every evil act creates karma and all karma has to be removed for us to return home to Heaven. Falun Dafa

[@EricSmyth4Christ]

"If you pray to be heard, you will receive the GREATER condemnation."

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Praying is a pretty silly ritual if you ask me. Ask God once, He does not need to be reminded. If you deserve something it ill be given before you ask. Falun Dafa

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Nonsense, what is important is what is in your heart, you are preaching Old Testament stuff......................falundafa

[@RoyceBenton]

God Blessed Us All.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

No He did not, just like you do not reward your son for slapping his sister, you have to ask for forgiveness and mean it. Falun Dafa

[@jeffforsythe9514]

He most certainly did not, He created us all and is about to judge us all and plenty will not pass that test, evil thrives.

[@casualobserver485]

What God wants God Gets, God help us all !

[@dalecasselman7356]

Yes you are right. God is sovereign and He does get what He wants. But that would also imply that if you continue to reject Christ, then God did not want you. Don't get me wrong, as God creating you was no waste of time, and you for all intensive purposes are going to be used as a vessel that will bring glory to Him. If not as a vessel unto God's undeserved mercy that came through Christ Jesus on the cross. Then by pouring out His righteous wrath on you for your transgressions. Either way it is a win win for God. It's a win for you also as if you are elect, you will enjoy an amazing relationship with someone that loves you enough to die for you. That is without question. The other win for you, is that you have been made by the Most High God to display His glory through punishing you, and the real kicker here is that it is not only a spectale for all of humanity, but the angels also. They get to marvel at the Judge of all of Earth and Heaven as He does what only God can do, and that is bring immeasurable glory to Himself, and we that are save will wallow in the signicance of Hid glory on a new Earth with our Lord. You of course will be swimming in a pool of fire, wishing that you had something cool to drink. When I was in the navy, I heard quite often people saying that they wanted to go to Hell, as it will be one big fat party with fast women and cold beer. I will never know. But, I agree, that there will be fast women in hell, and that is where the story gets sketchy. Read (Luke16:19-31) This is a real story told by Jesus(God in the flesh). The person in the story is still in torment and he will never get his tongue soothed as he suffers in the flames. His words used here, not mine. I of course am going to be sitting next to a cool stream of crystal clear water and eating heartily from the tree of life. Basking in the light and warmth of the same One, Who hung the sun and moon and all of the constelations in the heavens. It is going to be amazing. Stay cool my friend.. Oops, I meant dress for warmer weather... You see just how awkward this is . Declare Christ as you Lord and savior and get into His inspired word, and you will never thirst again. His words, not mine. I wanna be the weather man on the new Earth.. What is the weather today? Glorious just as it has been for the last hundred billion years.. Lol.. Anyhow, I love you Casual observer, as do all of the brethren.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

You forgot, God helps those who....................

[@jeffforsythe9514]

God is a giver not a getter. And He helps those who...............

[@casualobserver485]

@@dalecasselman7356 The "scriptures" you quote you must realize we're selected as "the word of God" by a vote, ponder that, the word of God decided by a vote of the of Catholic Cardinals !

[@dalecasselman7356]

@@jeffforsythe9514 It doesn't say anywhere in the bible, that God helps those who help themselves. Tell us the book/chapter/verse. You can't because it is nowhere to be found in holy writ.

[@this_is_NOT_a_test]

This is another topic that a lot of Christians disagree with each other. Why is it so hard for Christians to be on the same page??

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Because of all the demons who have preached and lied to us, one good example, and do not freak out, is the sinful RC Church, just my opinion. what garbage, putting a human between us and our Lord, humbug.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

He likes his own comments hahahahah

[@himynameisjohnwumsh7631]

When do people (who are going to heaven) become sinless?

[@Quietninjastar]

Not in this life as some would claim. Paul speaks much about the struggle we face with the flesh (Romans 7:21-25), which is to say that while we are in our current bodies we will never be fully rid of sin. Upon our deaths, however, we depart from our bodies and at some point thereafter receive a glorified body which will be perfect in every way, and at that point we will be free from sin. 1 Corinthians 15:50-57 speaks about how we will be changed- Paul calls it a mystery, but it is a sure thing nonetheless that we will be made perfect in order to be in the presence of the Lord.

[@theloniouszappa]

No living human will ever be sinless. We are born sinners and die sinners

[@himynameisjohnwumsh7631]

@@theloniouszappa : do you have to sin or do u choose to sin.

[@theloniouszappa]

@@himynameisjohnwumsh7631both, kind of. We all come from Adam (adam and eve), so we all have the rebellious nature of Adam in us. That makes us want to sin. Such as drink, do drugs, steal, etc. So one can choose to sin. If you decide you are going to the store and rob the place, you are choosing to sin. However, we also sin without intention. If I see a man's wife and she is pretty and I unintentionally lust after her, that is also a sin, but it was unintentional. That is why we get baptized in the name of Christ. God sent Jesus to be crucified and killed for us. Because of that, our sins are forgiven if we truly ask for forgiveness in the name of jesus christ. We as humans will never stop sinning as much as we try. It is impossible. But again, those sins will be forgiven.if we ask for forgiveness. Going back to your original question of when do people who go to heaven stop sinning? The answer is never. Everyone who goes to heaven is born a sinner and dies a sinner. The people who go to hell are also born and die sinners. The difference between the two is that the people who are sinners who.go to heaven have asked jesus christ to come into their lives and asked for forgiveness for their sins

[@jeffforsythe9514]

When all the black karma has been suffered for, Falun Dafa. We all have chosen to play in the mud instead of seeking the Divine.

[@Jonas-gl9ke]

If Yahweh allegedly can read our minds and punish us for thought crimes, will Yahweh also reward us for the many good things I didn’t get around to performing?

[@jeffforsythe9514]

That is up to Him but you probably have a very good idea concerning your own behavior. Falun Dafa

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Falun Gong Founder Mr. Li Hongzhi Publishes ‘How Humankind Came To Be’................... Epoch Times.

[@KenThePen247]

This is such a huge point of clarity because people say all sin is sin and what you do is you denigrate the message of Jesus Christ that we should always strive to reduce the quality and quantity of sin in our life in a process known as sanctification and Jesus came to destroy the works of the devil and obviously chewing gum and putting it under a kitchen table in a restaurant is far different than setting the place on fire but they're both sinful so stop acting ignorant about the degrees of sin because all sin is sin but it's not the same sin

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Jesus had a message that some of the people were ready for and many others were not. Right now there is a much more sophisticated message, Falun Dafa, are you ready and willing to learn?

[@kevinmcnamara704]

We are all sinners that's why we are here,peace to all 🙏

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Yes, we are here to suffer our sins, Falun Dafa

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Falun Gong Founder Mr. Li Hongzhi Publishes ‘How Humankind Came To Be’................... Epoch Times.

[@ambassadorofconciliation]

If sin has to be “paid for” in hell, Christ didn’t die for it. But Christ did die for it (1 Corinthians 15:1-4), and it wasn’t only for the elect! 1Cor 15:22: "For even as, in Adam, all are dying, thus also, in Christ, shall all be vivified." 1Tim 4:9-11: "Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching."

[@iacoponefurio1915]

He will gather His Elect from the 4 winds

[@iacoponefurio1915]

His elect call out to Him day and night

[@iacoponefurio1915]

Anyone cookie cutter cult.member can bounce around and take verses totally out of context but like the pharisees the person who brainwashed you to regurgitate the same twisted human and self righteous claims tried to use them to say the opposite of what the bible says

[@iacoponefurio1915]

There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth Repent and be born again because the Real God is not your mickey mouse self justifying fake He is a God who hates those who hate Him and repays them what they deserve and destroys them.

[@iacoponefurio1915]

You are not a Christian and have no idea what it really is. Just a Disneyland wannabe cult rhetoric regurgitator.

[@cdfistaken5437]

I guess Lawson was speaking for himself.

[@justfromcatholic]

I wonder why none of the speakers talked about 1 John 5:16-17 that clearly says there are deadly (or mortal) and non-deadly (or venial) sins? The late Sproul considered mortal and venial sins to be Catholic teaching!

[@mosesking2923]

He is reformed so he denies this biblical teaching.

[@justfromcatholic]

@bloochoo The verses do not say deadly sins are committed by unbelievers. 1 Cor 6:9 says the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God unless they are washed, sanctified and justified (verse 11).

[@justfromcatholic]

@bloochoo You wrote "the distinction about praying for the believers sin as opposed to the unbeliever". As far as I can understand from your statement is believers commit non-deadly sins, which you can pray for while unbelievers commit deadly ones and they don't want you to pray for them.

[@justfromcatholic]

@bloochoo So who commit unforgiven sins (= deadly sins) that we don't need to pray for?

[@justfromcatholic]

@bloochoo you did not answer my question.

[@jewess8755]

There is only one separation from God, There is only one lake of fire.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Forget about some lake, we all need a great teacher, Falun Dafa

[@Mrm1985100]

The wicked will perish and disappear.

[@dalecasselman7356]

(Luke 16:19-31)

[@runner8095]

Different degrees of hell??

[@eltonron1558]

There is also a distinction, between hell, and the lake of fire. Hell,, is the grave, the lake of fire, is a lake of fire, that burns for eternity.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

To get a true understanding of all of creation, Falun Dafa.

[@eltonron1558]

@jeff forsythe Small problem. Falun data, doesn't document God speaking, and great crowds HEARING HIM. TWICE

[@jeffforsythe9514]

@@eltonron1558 You are either ready or you are not.

[@eltonron1558]

@jeff forsythe Of course, I'm ready for TCU, to beat Georgia. Aren't you? If Christ hadn't already declared the whole world eligible, ready or not, you would have a point.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

​@@eltonron1558 Christ, in His time, was only speaking to His people , who were the Jewish, there was no internet, very little intercontinental travel and very luckily, no CNN. He also asked His disciples not to go to the Far East because they already had their prophets and mixing to different schools is not a good thing even if they are both righteous. Since then, some liars and corrupt people, such as the deluded RC Church have warped His teachings. Jesus did not save the whole world, He showed us the Way to save ourselves and now the new practice Falun Dafa explains most of the great mysteries concerning creation. That's all folks.

[@teddysalad8227]

I have a problem with talk of riches in Heaven or rewards of whatever type. Will we really have money or riches in Heaven? If we won’t be married in Heaven will we need money?

[@jeffforsythe9514]

From my understanding, if and when we return home to Heaven, we will not once look back at this sewer we now consider to be our home. Your main purpose should be how to return there and the Way is Falun Dafa.

[@colonalklink14]

Saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ "alone" for salvation.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

We all need a great teacher, Falun Dafa

[@jeffforsythe9514]

​ Christ, in His time, was only speaking to His people , who were the Jewish, there was no internet, very little intercontinental travel and very luckily, no CNN. He also asked His disciples not to go to the Far East because they already had their prophets and mixing to different schools is not a good thing even if they are both righteous. Since then, some liars and corrupt people, such as the deluded RC Church have warped His teachings. Jesus did not save the whole world, He showed us the Way to save ourselves and now the new practice Falun Dafa explains most of the great mysteries concerning creation. That's all folks.

[@colonalklink14]

@@jeffforsythe9514 You are a false teacher and you are going to split Hell wide open someday! 1 John 2:2 "And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world." Guess again later false teacher!

[@jeffforsythe9514]

@@colonalklink14 boing boing

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@jeffforsythe9514 wackjob space cadet liar you are an unbeliever who has never known Christ and are still in your sins. Repent or die forever

[@elcioeverton8679]

Amen.

[@nikokapanen82]

They basically proved here that a punishment cannot be infinite, since all sin is finite.

[@nikokapanen82]

@Mark OnTheBlueRidge God says in the Bible several times over that He will repay each one according to their deeds. Each sinful deed is different and causes different level of harm. Jesus himself said that it will be more bearable for the Sodom and Gomorrah on the judgement day than to the ones who rejected the Gospel, which clearly shows that each sin has different level of seriousness.

[@nikokapanen82]

@@dalecasselman7356 Spiritually dead condition is simply explained by being a sinful condition and all sin is founded on pride/selfishness. The idea that God failed so miserably that He cannot humble down his own creatures from pride and has to torture them forever and ever and cant ever stop torturing them is not possible. God is not a failure.

[@dalecasselman7356]

Nope. It is against an eternal Judge, that will see to it that your punishment is eternal because you rejected the only eternal sacrifice that you had. As long as Christ lives, those of us that have placed our trust in Him will live also.. the scripture says that your smoke will go up before Him forever and I shutter to speak of the torment being like a worm. Yuck... That is not just Hollywood special effects. It is going to be rough for all that reject Christ.

[@nikokapanen82]

@@dalecasselman7356 Lets talk about justice, love and evil for a bit. Lets start with justice. It is best described in the Old Testament, where God gave the rule "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth", which means the amount of harm you have done to someone, is that same amount harm you get yourself, so justice always demands punishment but never overboards it, it demands only the same amount, the same harm what you have done yourself. Now lets take love. Love is a force which does not demand justice, does not demand giving you the same amount harm back. Love can calm down, forgive and forget the evil done without desiring punishments. That is true love. Now lets take evil. Evil does not forgive, evil does not forget, evil does not desire justice, it always wants to give you more than you deserve. An example, if you insult some gangster just with words, he could murder you, rape your wife and do harm to your kids. So evil is not forgiving nor just, it gives you more than you deserve and the more evil it is the more harm and pain it will give to you. Now people who says that God will torture humans for a literal eternity, because He is so infinitely moral and holy, makes God being not loving who forgives and forgets, not just who only gives the fair amount but pure, absolute evil who never forgives, who never forgets but will torture you forever. This is why the idea of God torturing someone literally forever is a contradiction of His nature, it cannot be literally true.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

What are you talking about? If your soul has gone to the dark side and refuses to return, it will soon be eliminated, one rotten apple can spoil the whole bunch, Apocalypse is upon us.

[@tracesofheaven-giftbandit3094]

Grateful for videos where we can watch over and over. Thank you for Steve and Al mentioning some Scriptures that RC eluded to, and the distinction of them. *It is false to say Jesus said* 👏👏 AMEN putting words into Jesus' mouth, oh the ignorance. Would love to know the 25 references. Thx!

[@jeffforsythe9514]

If you would like to learn about all the mysteries of creation, Falun Dafa is for you.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Christ, in His time, was only speaking to His people , who were the Jewish, there was no internet, very little intercontinental travel and very luckily, no CNN. He also asked His disciples not to go to the Far East because they already had their prophets and mixing to different schools is not a good thing even if they are both righteous. Since then, some liars and corrupt people, such as the deluded RC Church have warped His teachings. Jesus did not save the whole world, He showed us the Way to save ourselves and now the new practice Falun Dafa explains most of the great mysteries concerning creation. That's all folks.

[@tirsovillafuerte7443]

The wages of sin is death ... Death being final

[@philipbuckley759]

death meaning separation.....not the end...

[@SillyChickens222]

Jesus defeats death tho

[@ndjarnag]

We just pick the verses to define god. We therefore make god in our own image.

[@NVRAMboi]

Best of luck in that sinful and futile effort. "We."?

[@jeffforsythe9514]

God gave me His Divine Blessing 17 years ago and I know whos who. Falun Dafa

[@iacoponefurio1915]

@@jeffforsythe9514 hahahahaha what a psychotic koresh wannabe wackoville

[@iacoponefurio1915]

You may do that but many still hold to the scriptures You are in darkness

[@ndjarnag]

@@iacoponefurio1915 God tells me how to interpret the scripture through the holy spirit. Who are you to question God? I'm sorry for your blindness.

[@garystrittmater8258]

I disagree in the idea that some sins are greater than other sins, they are all the same!

[@chandrashekar4529]

There is unconscious sin and willingly sin in Hebrews and sin to death and sin not to death in 1 John.

[@dalecasselman7356]

The good news is with every heartbeat you are that much closer to learning the truth of this big caper.. Lol..

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Change that thinking quick. You must be quite young.

[@tsebosei1285]

I have committed the worst sins in the universe.

[@baljeettjinder2262]

KgaitseweM yes. Admit that you are a sinner. I am a sinner. We all are. But through the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ, His Blood saves us! Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you can be saved! God Bless my friend God can forgive anything, just turn to him, repent and believe. Amen ✝️

[@handyman7297]

I think the greater sin in universe is reject Jesus as Lord and saviour

[@philipbuckley759]

@@handyman7297 amen.....

[@dalecasselman7356]

God is bigger than the universe. So you are in good hands with Jesus.

[@T.Ravikumar]

There's no judgement (condemnation, penalty) for those 'IN' Christ Jesus (Rom 8:1). For the others it doesn't matter what degree of sin they commit. They'll be eternally "OUT" of Christ Jesus. This is the greatest hell.

[@NVRAMboi]

That condemnation is the "second death".

[@T.Ravikumar]

@@NVRAMboi Death is explained in the Bible: "Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life" (1Jn5:12). When God warned man: "for when you eat from it you will certainly die" (Gen2:17), this is what happened: "Yahweh God sent him out from the garden of Eden" (Gen3:23). This is the "first death", the loss of fellowship with the Son @ Eden (The Tree of Life). The "second death" will happen @ Judgment when "the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace" (Mat 13:42). That's why the Bible explains what happens to those born-again to a new life in Christ: "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them" (Rev 20:6).

[@NVRAMboi]

@@T.Ravikumar I know all of that. You came in after kickoff.

[@T.Ravikumar]

@@NVRAMboi 👍

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Christ's teachings have now been updated because our minds are now sophisticated enough to understand, Falun Dafa.

[@jamesr2408]

It absolutely baffles me, why there needs to be a discussion on the distinctions of sins, when what Christians urgently need to hear daily is the truth about their regeneration in *inherent righteousness* - born of God - and the power of the indwelling Spirit for overcoming both the world and the power of sin. But this is how it has been for more than 300 years. The Reformers have made a cushy career out of never missing an opportunity to call Christians sinners, and unrelentingly digging a hole for themselves and the Protestant movement, that having miraculously escaped the tyranny of Rome, aka, The Mother of Harlots, ironically, could NOT escape from all its dead weight romish Augustinian-baggage. The pews are already all but empty, and places of worship turned to Bingo Halls. When will they stop beating a dead horse? For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. -Romans 6:14 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness. -Ephesians 4:24 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. -1 John 5:4 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. -1 John 5:18

[@jamesr2408]

Shaken not stirred, sorry, but I hv to respectfully correct your language, before saying more. Not saying that there are absolutely no more signs and miracles, but they were given for benefit of unbelievers, to validate the apostles and their teachings. The apostolic doctrines have been fixed long ago, the gospel has been preached for 2000 years, and we are now at the end of age, the heavens are already closing doors as evidenced by the open disdain for the gospel among the unsaved. So why would there be signs and miracle now? 3rd world ministries in places like rural China, Africa and Iran are an exception. Also given the corruption of doctrines, I would not want to see miracles happening and affirming unprofitable ministers. Imagine Sproul performing miracles? Would that be good? The arrogance will be uncontrollable. Therefore I will not judge a man by the miracles he perform, only sound doctrine. No thanks to Luther's indoctrination in the Augustinian Monastery, the Reformers got off on the wrong foot by hanging on to that Roman Catholic Church poster boy Augustine's theology. There is no power of holiness or freedom from sin in their doctrines. So they bred legalistic congregations of hypocrites, full of divorced and remarried people. The result is today overwhelmingly evident in the quality of Protestant congregations worldwide and empty church buildings. The US was founded by the best of reformers, the Puritans, but there 1 in 2 marriages are broken. Adultery is rampant. Abortion is celebrated. The church of Satan has membership is growing. Today half of US citizens are absolute antichrists. They totally hate the gospel. And finally Obama, the devil's commander in chief, opened the Pandora's box by legalizing Gay Marriage. The end.

[@kevinrtres]

@@jamesr2408 Just a question to make sure I understand you correctly - So YOU can claim to be absolutely holy and sinless right now and forever more, is that correct?

[@jamesr2408]

kevin ruiters, so your are claiming that sin has power over you, correct? Then you CANNOT be born again. And therefore NOT saved. Don't make this about me. Refute the scriptures if you cam, else WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION according to the revealed truth of freedom in Christ. And do not deny the fact that being born of God a new creation, we are now expected to fulfill the law -- no not ritual and dietary laws, but walking even as Christ walked in freedom -- that the righteousness of the law be fulfilled in us -- Romans 8:1-4

[@jamesr2408]

@Thomas Jones yes I am judging. But we are called to judge within the house. This is housekeeping. A tree is known by its fruit. Looking at the fruit of the Reformers and Luther, we know with certainty that it was a half baked movement. Luther was practically a Roman Catholic with justification doctrine. Today the pews in US and Europe are empty. Church buildings turned into social halls and Sunday markets. Where is the fruit? Reformers' Achilles heel is the false doctrine in Romans 7 which teaches slavery to sin. Characterizes the wretched man as a Christian. This produced generations of sin slaves in their congregations and bred hypocrisy. The rest is history.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Satan has ruled here for centuries and we all have added our straws to the camel's back. Now, how do we get back home to Heaven? Falun Dafa (The Great Way).

[@tiedryflies]

whining about the punishment of various sins is pitiful; read 2nd Thessalonians 1:9 KJBV, "everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord," one cannot understand that never having been "from the presence of the Lord".

[@TheBibleSays]

*_"Are there distinctions of sin in hell?"_* It's a trick question, like asking what kind of cheese the moon is made of. There is no "hell." “Hell” appears in the Bible because hell-believing translators put it there, paving over the meanings of three different original Greek words (New Testament). Those words have nothing to do with a place of eternal, fiery torment. Here’s an example. One of those three Greek words was γέεννα -geena or gehenna in English. It appears twelve times in the early Greek texts, and was always translated “hell” by the KJV translators. So, what was γέεννα, really? It was the valley (just outside Jerusalem) which was used as a dump in Jesus’ time. Constant fire and maggots there were sure to destroy whatever was thrown in. But translators said nothing about that dump. Instead, they translated γέεννα as “hell.” Here is an example: ■ “And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire” (Mark 9:47) Using “hell” in that verse was grossly misleading. Jesus was not talking about eternal torment in some sort of fiery hell. Jesus was saying that in the future the unsaved would perish. They would surely be destroyed, just as trash thrown into that dump was sure to be destroyed. Translators (especially King James Version, 1611) made a real mess when they used the word “hell” in place of those three Greek words. They had inherited their hell concept, by tradition, from the Catholic church. By using “hell” they were twisting the meanings of the Greek words, making the Bible appear to support to their concept of a place of perpetual, fiery torment. Over time some some translators have recognized this error, noting the original Greek words in footnotes, or even using the original Greek words directly in the translated text . . . and not using “hell.” Young’s Literal Translation (YLT), for example, never uses “hell.” The damage caused by the translators continues to this day. Millions of reasonable people dismiss Christianity as nonsense when they are told the God of mercy will sadistically torment the unsaved forever and ever in some sort of fiery hell. ➔ Behind the scenes, the pagan doctrine of the immortal soul is partly to blame. The idea that we have an “immortal soul” - that always exists, somewhere - is a pagan Greek doctrine that has crept into mainstream institutional Christianity over the centuries. As a result, most professing Christians today believe exactly what the Greek philosopher Plato taught: that we have an immortal soul which - upon death - separates from the body and lives forever. Here’s Plato: _“Do we believe that there is such a thing as death? And is this anything but the separation of soul and body? And being dead is the attainment of this separation; when the soul exists in herself, and is parted from the body and the body is parted from the soul . . . beyond question the soul is immortal and imperishable, and our souls will truly exist in another world!”_ (Plato, in Phaedo, about 360 BC) The “immortal soul” idea is a re-packaged version of Satan’s lie: ■ “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die” (Genesis 3:4) People who subscribe to the pagan “immortal soul” doctrine see salvation as a matter of "where we’ll spend eternity - in heaven or in hell.” *Wrong paradigm altogether!* Salvation is not about “where you’ll spend eternity.” You won’t even *_have_* an eternity unless you receive eternal life from God! Otherwise you'll perish, just as stated in John 3:16: ■ "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

[@paddleballpaul]

I'm sorry to say that there is a hell it's also mentioned in the rich man and Lazarus in a parable(Luke 16:19-31)

[@PaulPaul-zu5dw]

That sounds true.

[@paddleballpaul]

Jesus mentioned in the Bible about hell many times

[@TheBibleSays]

@@paddleballpaul Unless we receive the gift of eternal life, we will *_perish:_* The word “hell” appears in Bible *_translations_* because hell-believing *_translators_* put it there, paving over the meanings of three different original Greek words (New Testament). Those words have nothing to do with a place of eternal, fiery torment. Here’s an example: ■ “And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire” (Mark 9:47) "Hell" in that verse was how translators translated the Greek word γέεννα -geena or gehenna in English. So, what was γέεννα, really? It was the valley (just outside Jerusalem) which was used as a dump in Jesus’ time. Constant fire and maggots there were sure to destroy whatever was thrown in. But translators said nothing about that dump. Instead, they translated γέεννα as “hell.” Using “hell” in that verse was grossly misleading. Jesus was not talking about eternal torment in some sort of fiery hell. Jesus was saying the unsaved would perish. They would surely be destroyed, just as trash thrown into that dump was sure to be destroyed. They would be figuratively thrown into the dump. Translators (especially King James Version, 1611) made a real mess when they used the word “hell” in place of those three Greek words. They had inherited their hell concept, by tradition, through the Catholic church. By using “hell” they were twisting the meanings of the Greek words, making the Bible appear to support to their own concept of a place of perpetual, fiery torment. Over time some some translators have recognized this error, noting the original Greek words in footnotes, or even using the original Greek words directly in the translated text . . . and not using “hell.” Young’s Literal Translation (YLT), for example, never uses “hell.” The damage caused by the translators continues to this day. Millions of reasonable people dismiss Christianity as nonsense when they are told the God of mercy will sadistically torment the unsaved forever and ever in some sort of fiery hell. People struggle with the thought of perishing because they've been led to believe they have an immortal soul that leaves the body at death and lives - somewhere - forever. That's actually a pagan doctrine that has crept into institutional Christianity over the centuries. (It's a repackaged version of Satan's lie, "Ye shall not surely die" -Genesis 3:4.) Here's the pagan Greek philosopher Plato; see if this sounds like what most professing Christians have been led to believe by their churches: _"Do we believe that there is such a thing as death? And is this anything but the separation of soul and body? And being dead is the attainment of this separation; when the soul exists in herself, and is parted from the body and the body is parted from the soul . . . beyond question the soul is immortal and imperishable, and our souls will truly exist in another world!"_ (Plato, in _Phaedo,_ about 360 BC) ➔ Salvation is not about "where you'll spend eternity." Wrong paradigm! You won't even *_have_* an eternity unless you receive from God the gift of eternal life! Otherwise, you'll perish in that "second death." Unless we receive the gift of eternal life, we will *_perish:_* ■ "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) How will the usaved perish? ■ "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord" (Romans 6:23) After resurrection and judgment, they'll die a second time. It's called the "second death" in Revelation 2:11, 20:6, 20:14 and 21:8. After the second death there is no life and there is no hope of resuirrection. It's the end of you. You'll never "be" again. That's what it means to "perish." That's how God mercifully deals with those who reject Him.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Hell has many different levels, Falun Dafa. When our sins are ground off of our soul, guess what we say, thanks.

[@tomandkatherinewilliams7784]

I miss RC so so much.

[@realbreox]

He is unfortunately spending eternity in Hell

[@jeffforsythe9514]

You mean the cola drink?

[@jvo3777]

Get right with God friends, time is running short! About 500 prophecies fulfilled hundreds and thousands of years in advance show it must be the true word of God! Romans 10:9-10, then repent of your sins and you will be saved!!!

[@smeatonlighthouse4384]

It does not matter one iota about distinctions of sin, you are all lost and in the same boat, awaiting the resurrection unto judgement of the lost and the Lake of Fire.

[@dalecasselman7356]

I am guessing that you haven't met Christ? That is a shame because he is our blessed assurance that we have escaped death. Anyhow, good luck with that.

[@mattm4557]

False teaching. All sin separates us from God and liars are mentioned right along with murderers as those who won’t inherit the kingdom of God. If you’re in hell, you’re in hell. Wages of sin (all sin) is death.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

That is Old Testament, forgiveness exists. Don't you ever forgive? God ,I am quite sure, enjoys forgiving, when it is deserved.

[@mattm4557]

@@jeffforsythe9514 no, the New Testament is vey clear. Sin leads to death and only those who have put on Christ through baptism and keep his commandments are saved. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Mark 16:16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Acts 2:38 And Peter said to them, ‘Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; Romans 6:3-4 Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. 1 Peter 3:21 Baptism … now saves you John 14:15 If you love me, you will keep my commandments. John 8:31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples” John 14:6 Jesus said: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Matt 7:13-14 Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

[@calebdunn2662]

Id have to disagree. Yes all sin separates us from God but thats why we also believe that there is various degrees of punishment in hell according to matt. 10:15.

[@mattm4557]

@@calebdunn2662 read Romans Ch1:21-32. It couldn’t be more clear.

[@tobewunaskwunaaron]

Okay, so you think some sins are, for lack of a better word, worse than others. Name them. It follows suit that some ain't as bad as others. Name them.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Homosexuality and molesting and slaughtering a child, you do not think that one act may be worse than the other?

[@willcollier6623]

“Hell” is in your HEAD. “Hell” has NO address . Gods “wrath” is allowing YOU to put YOURSELF through “Hell”. The word “Hell” was invented by man to put FEAR in your heart. If God is in your heart then there is no FEAR that can stay. God is unconditional LOVE. There is zero FEAR in LOVE. Fear is a condition.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Are you some kind of wise sage who has all the answers? Fear is quite all right because without it, we could not be courageous. Falun Dafa.

[@willcollier6623]

@@jeffforsythe9514 fear removes faith. Fear brings doubt. With out pure faith or with an ounce of doubt will keep you from walking through the fire and never even smelling of smoke. Test it if you are true...lay down your life for your brother and the reward WILL be the abundance of life it self.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

@@willcollier6623 The reason why Jesus did not move mountains is because then we could doubt and without doubt there could be no such thing as faith. You have a lot to learn concerning the principles of yin and yang but first of all, you have to admit that you are not some wise old sage, I am. We will see if we can crowbar that mind of yours, no offence.

[@willcollier6623]

@@jeffforsythe9514 LoL ...yeah...you may be old , but a “ sage “ ??? Not. Jesus did MOVE MOUNTAINS. He walked on water....HE took his HANDS and calmed the seas. CAN you do do that ? I can. You have that ability but....no faith.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

@@willcollier6623 I received God's Divine Blessing 17 years ago. Why do you pretend to know me, know thy self.

[@jessewallace12able]

Because you know. Amazing self-conceit. I think it’s called pride.

[@debjesic]

We all have pride, we all struggle, we're fallen, but it's a process we're all learning and in hopes of change it starts with repentance.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

There are hundreds of things much worse than pride.

[@tirsovillafuerte7443]

In this instance for as was Paul an idolator Jewish , Christian Hating mercenary full of travesty . His sin won't be judge as equal ... The Messiah told the Pharisees he who is without sin cast the first-hand Stone. I believe from what I've study orthodoxy and Catholicism nicene creed , all believe in the in doctrine of original sin.

[@jeffforsythe9514]

Forget about defining sin, just another one of Satan's distractions. Seek the Divine, Falun Dafa

[@redrobin4084]

This makes God look like a vengeful maniac.

[@philipbuckley759]

ya think....eh...

[@dalecasselman7356]

"Vengeance is mine" says the Lord

[@jeffforsythe9514]

If your child keeps playing in the middle of the highway, don't you spank him? Punishment can very easily save a life and especially a soul. God is wonderful, Falun Dafa

[@SillyChickens222]

Bc the Christian god is a vengeful maniac

[@SillyChickens222]

@@jeffforsythe9514do you spank your child for eternity for committing that wrong act tho…? How is that not an injustice? Punishing someone infinitely for finite sins