The Rapture: The Last Days According to Jesus with R.C. Sproul

What is the Rapture? Christians all agree that Jesus will return to take His church out of this fallen world, but there is disagreement as to how He will do it. Will Jesus secretly take His people out of this world only to return again later for the Resurrection? Dr. Sproul considers this question as he continues the study of The Last Days According to Jesus, with this message entitled “The Rapture.”
This is the 11th in a series of messages by Dr. Sproul on the last days. See other videos in the series: • The Last Days Accordin...

[@mattvermillion6062]

Is this still available on DVD? It might go well with my study group.

[@ligonier]

Hello Matt, The DVD is in fact available for purchase at the below link: www.ligonier.org/store/the-last-days-according-to-jesus-dvd/

[@mattvermillion6062]

@@ligonier Thank you! :)

[@hellosunshine1090]

Great idea ! And not to undercut Ligonier DVD sales but you can use a KZbin download app to bring it onto your Laptop or Tablet - it helps to have these incredibly helpful videos to show your fellow Christians to gain a proper Reformed Preterist view. There are still SO MANY sensational Rapture Fever preachers out there spinning their webs of 30% Bible 70% Groundless Speculation. I'm a 20 years 'Sober' recovering Dispensational addict, so I can tell you what a breath of fresh air this is ! RC and Dr Ken Gentry were used of God in 1999 to wake me up to this 'hidden reality'. Soli Deo Gloria ! Thanks Ligonier for posting these on KZbin !

[@hellosunshine1090]

@Shaken not stirred Careful there - that man was & is a servant of the Most High God ! Jesus warned that those who call others fool, without cause, are in danger of hellfire, in Matthew 5:22. Exactly like you just did. You sound like the kind who that warning was addressed to. How will you answer to God on Judgement Day, mr. "shaken not stirred" ?

[@monrepos1001]

@@hellosunshine1090 99,9% of preachers are liars and snakes deceiving believers i have no respect for them they dont work for God they work for Satan they support the anti-Christ Jews!

[@andrewkeefe1358]

Strangely enough I would listen to these teachings after putting my kids to bed, as company for washing dishes and folding laundry until late at night. I loved to hear the writing on the blackboard it made me memorize the key words .A lot of it had stuck in my head too... it also helped me keep calm as the reality of divorce showed itself night by night there too. Thank you RC. For the calm voice and wise teaching in my time of testing. I gave it all to Jesus.

[@monicahart3071]

Me too!

[@TheTenthLeper]

God bless you sir, stay strong. You have a lot of friends in heaven that you haven't met yet.

[@scottschaefer2284]

Ezekiel 13:20 King James Version 20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

[@musicandcoffee2853]

I do the same thing. While I’m working around my home, I’m listening to RC or the Bible.

[@person-ey2ct]

Yes..we are here together...stay in deep holy ghost prayer

[@5jjt]

Read your Word hungrily because they will be coming for it soon enough and you'll wish every word was in your heart and mind. Jesus said, blessed is he who hears my word and keeps it in his heart.

[@gregormann7]

mal'ak emeth - This is not only naive, but contrary to the explicit teaching of both Jesus and his apostles, who said quite the opposite. “To the law and the testimony! If they speak not according to this word it is because there is no light in them.” This OT principle clearly carries over into the NT: Matt 5:17, etc. Because the work of the Spirit IN us is altogether subjective, the whole point of an inspired text is to provide a uniformly accessible objective basis for what we all believe. For which there is NO substitute. It isn’t either/or. It’s both/and.

[@bc8648]

He’s doing this on all the comments

[@Staystrong123]

@mal'ak emeth it's about us, he gave his Life for us, ( the BRIDE ) we will most undoubtedly give ours for Him? Are we ready 👍✝️💜🙏

[@brianbabbot3217]

Yep. Make sure you have a physical copy of the Bible (multiple Bibles) because they will someday erase all Bibles on your phones/tablets.

[@scottmcclellan5219]

that is true LORD Jesus God bring home matthew 10:19 kjb alone

[@thomasmartinscott]

Just realize that YOUR meeting with God could happen at any minute... a heart attack, a car wreck, or whatever, and BE YE READY! NOW!

[@reflectionsinthebible3579]

true

[@harrybond007]

Sure that's one of the classic scare tactics used by Catholics, the world over for hundreds of years

[@michaels.7500]

@@harrybond007 It's absolute truth my friend not a scare tactic. It's actually the most loving warning you could ever tell someone because it determines where you will spend eternity and it shows a genuine concern for your soul. Jesus is Lord my friend and neighbor! 👑💖💒🙏👆💯🔥

[@rubiks6]

@Spiritual Eyes vs Physical Eyes - Professor Sproul just spent 24 minutes directly addressing why this teaching is false. Go back and listen, and this time with your Bible and your ears open.

[@LeevesFPS]

@@upstream5316 You will know if it’s the mark of the beast, it won’t be some hidden secret. It’s an embrace of the anti christ

[@gregv79]

This should be the fervent daily hope of every believer. Having become obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed. I'd rather hear the word 24/7 than anything else the world has to offer.

[@nikitanikita6612]

I thank you my Lord and savior for saving me .. thank you for taking me out of Hinduism.. I was a Hindu for 35 years and I used to served Hindu idol.. I was brought up to not like Christian and Jesus wasn’t real .. that all changes when I had a very bad experience in my life and I pretended to be a Christian but little do i know God had his own plans for me .. I saw Jesus for the first time in my dreams and in his presence I felt this love I never experienced In my life before.. in my savior presence I felt all my sins was forgiven when I woken up I lift my hands up give my life to Jesus I repent and today my ways and life is change for the better.. I saw Jesus many times after I had a out of body experiences .. I was in Israel Jesus show me new Jerusalem and he said tell his people to stand together with Israel ... Jesus show me a moon he said when u see this moon know the time is near, I saw Jesus in the clouds he said to me he is coming back soon , I saw 7 angel with long trumpets, I saw Jesus coming fiercely in the clouds he had no favoritism if u know him u will go if not u will have to go through the hard times here on earth 🌍 as Jesus was coming there was a lighting then rapture suddenly a earthquake and then follow darkness Over the earth and a knee length flood the world was in Chacos ... I also saw the pope with a bible in his hand said 666 I personally don’t trust the Pope ... i had many many dreams where I saw my savior Jesus Christ .. we communicated through thoughts and I saw the number 12:13 or 12:12 I can’t remember the exact number but one of the number I don’t know what it meant ... I saw a army Preparedness for a secret attack they have green and black uniform I saw this army with a long range missile and a short range missile .. I just want to share with everyone .. I trust in Jesus he is coming back soon. Because my father told me so .. Jesus is the only way plz repent everyday every second and trust in him with all ur heart and souls .. I love you my savior Jesus Christ thank you for saving me my Lord .. I’m noting without you my savior Jesus Christ u are my everything.. I love u 😍 my Jesus Christ my father

[@wallflower4100]

Hello What did the moon look like that Jesus showed you?

[@harrisonmasih1873]

Nikita Nikita hey there, could u specify what the colour of the moon was please?

[@harrisonmasih1873]

was the moon red or was one third of it dark?

[@nikitanikita6612]

Harrison Masih yes it was a pinkish reddish moon

[@nikitanikita6612]

I post a comment when I had the dream it was 6 month ago and come to find out on Passover breaking Israel show a pinkish moon over Israel 🇮🇱.. I was not surprised because it’s what Jesus show me but it wow me when I saw it because I mention it in a comment 6 month ago

[@aliciab92989]

RC Sproul wow the whole eschatology series is a must see. He understood beautifully by the grace and power of our Holy Spirit. Praise God alone!

[@AgapeLove1994]

Where can we access the whole series?

[@cabuster]

But why disregard John 14:2-3, "In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also." - Sproul dismisses the fact that we are going to go with Jesus to heaven to reside in His Father's house of many rooms which has been prepared by Jesus for us. Jesus is not receiving us in the clouds to accompany him back to earth - we are meeting him to go to heaven with Him. Yep, I'm listening for the shout and trumpet sound: I'm going to be in Heaven with Jesus before I return with Him for the Millennium.

[@johnloudermilk4869]

You are correct. He is taking us to the big house for 7 years of Tribulation. Then we all return together for the apocalyptic end before the Millennial 1,000 years of peace.

[@Ken-dh2te]

AMEN

[@mnsa4321]

"father's house " was not literal. Read it again in the context of the chapter before and after.

[@alecepting1371]

@@mnsa4321 It's referring to the betrothal arrangement in Jewish culture. When the bridegroom was betrothed, he would return to his father's house to add a room without his bride, until the work was done and he was ready to return to pick up his bride and take her to his father's house where they would have a great wedding feast. Afterwards both bride and groom would spend 7 days together in this room. One could argue that what Christ is preparing is the New Jerusalem which will come down from heaven in Revelation 21:2 because it makes a reference to the bride.

[@XAVI72ENATION]

​@@mnsa4321Learn and rightly divide the Word. Jesus says in Christ 13, "Jesus replied, “Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later.” This coincides perfectly with Ch 14...3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. 4 You know the way to the place where I am going.”. They will follow later. Later being after Christ first goes and later comes back for them. This will take place at the Rapture. Furthermore, the Greek word for home is not figurative, but literal...Mone. translation is a mansion. This reflects the size, and type and scope of the heavenly abide Christ prepares for His own. That is proper context and proper hermeneutics. If it were anything else but a true heavenly abide, Christ would not have embellished with use of such a Word.

[@CrazyRev]

As a "pre-tribber", I would respectfully contend that the raptured church is not just "sitting around with Jesus", but enjoying the Marriage Feast of the Lamb. Then, at the end of the tribulation period, He will return, with His church for the final battle of Armageddon.

[@LastDaySaintJames]

THATS FUNNY BECAUSE THE INVITATION TO THE MARRIAGE SUPPER IS AT THE COMING OF THE LORD JESUS AFTER GREAT TRIBULATION. READ IT FOR YOURSELF. REVELATION 19: 9, 11 9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God. 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. so im thinking you dont really read your bible and study. you just listen to ear ticklers, and form your own version of comfort and ease. lack of knowledge destroys God's people. Hosea 4 6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

[@tylerp1939]

Yes, and that is also the same belief as the early church fathers, including the ones that were disciples and knew John personally. It is very difficult to change your mind on something you grew up in and especially when involved in a denomination that teaches it. As you do, I still love these brothers in Christ and looking forward to being with our Lord soon. God Bless

[@ravindrinrangasamy578]

There's no pretribulation rapture... let's just look at it this way... Jesus said when I return will I find faith... so how was yr faith tested if u were pre raptured... Look at it this way... Who will GOD look at at with more mercy and grace those who were pretrib raptured or those who went through it not taking the 666 mark... think yr faith needs to be tested

[@kimlatta9433]

@@ravindrinrangasamy578What do you believe is the purpose of the Tribulation?

[@bradmontgomery5575]

@@ravindrinrangasamy578Our faith is tested every moment of every day. If you obey the will of God and you love and keep his commandments you will be caught up into the clouds to be with the Lord forever. If you’re a lukewarm Christian then you’ll go through the fire of the tribulation, you will be made hot. What is the parable of the 10 virgins about? What are the 3 different harvest parables; barley, wheat, and wine about?

[@mordecaiben-gurion1199]

I can't get enough of this man's teachings! Thank you Lord for this kind of addiction.

[@justinjones2160]

Me too!

[@maidenshazza]

Probably the greatest modern day teacher. Learned almost everything I know about reformed theology from RC. Praise God for his life

[@maidenshazza]

@@garvinsmith4555 By your comment, I presume you hold to a dispensational view of the rapture, which is something that was formed in the 19th century. There is zero proof that the early church believed in the 2nd and 3rd return of Jesus, which is basically what the dispensational rapture teaches (to rapture His church and reign for 1000 yrs, and then returns again to judge) Not found in scripture!!! You need someone to tell you this (John Nelson Darby), and then you start inserting this concept into everything you read in the word of God. I love the 'Left Behind' movies, but that's not the word of God.

[@paulrooney982]

Hail Satan 🤘🏽

[@anthonylowder6687]

@@paulrooney982 F**k 🖕Satan!!

[@gabriel-1957]

I love my brother R C Sproul! I know my brother is with the LORD JESUS, right now!

[@texsis2112]

Oh no really. finally find someone I like to listen to and find out he's not even with us anymore thank you.

[@gabriel-1957]

@@texsis2112 🙏

[@sharoncampbell6999]

Oh, happy day; oh, happy day. Caught up to meet Him in the air. Come even so Lord Jesus! AMEN.

[@junk3996]

yes, meeting Jesus in the air, as He goes where? read Zech 14. He isn't bringing anyone to "heaven", but bringing us into His inheritance, the Kingdom....which is the reality of the "heavenly hope"

[@eekay5710]

@@junk3996 Agree, and this He alreády has done, as the kingdom of God is inside of us!

[@junk3996]

@@eekay5710 the kingdom is also a tangible objective reality, and that hasn't happened yet, as evident by Jesus not reigning the earth from the throne of David in the promised land to Abraham

[@eekay5710]

@@junk3996 The kingdom of God is only what scripture says it is. The kingdom of God is not a geographic place or something for the future, but 'is in the realm of the Holy Spirit, filled with righteousness, peace and joy'. Rom 14:17 Jesus in John 3:3 'Before a person can perceive God's kingdom realm, they must first experience a rebirth'. (born from above, born from the origin). Due to the cross, we now can 'experience the reality of God's kingdom realm', as the Holy Spirit has been poured out into us. Luke 6:20 Jesus in Luke 17:20,21 God's kingdom realm does not come simply by obeying principles or by waiting for signs. The kingdom is not discovered in one place or another, for God's kingdom realm is already expanding within some of you (meaning those who came to the born again).

[@johno2277]

Uh, Jesus already came in 70AD. That's GREAT FOR US !!! PTL!!!

[@efandmk3382]

Despite what many want to believe, Christianity isn't complicated. Love the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, obey the 11 Commandments, live your life as Jesus instructed you to do in the Gospels, and don't worry about it. Christianity ought to bring you peace, not anxiety. It ought to make you love, not hate.

[@elusive4072]

Actually just repent and believe the gospel and be lead by the Spirit.

[@elizabethhartley8987]

@SmellofFemaleno

[@williamredfield6006]

@efandmk3382 - You wrote, "...obey the 11 Commandments..." Was that intentional or a mistype?

[@shaylahmchugh7651]

There is 10 commandments

[@davedduchene]

all the years of scholastic wrestling and study by R. C. allows this fantastic and clear teaching. Thank you.

[@ToledoOhio]

Thank You For Sharing The Word Of God. My Husband is incarcerated and I have been blessed to receive the continued message of Jesus Christ through such true, dignified gospel teachers as this gentleman via KZbin. God help us all

[@jonathanray4598]

Please please investigate the Bahai Faith. Christ has already come again. His new name is Baha'u'llah.

[@reflectionsinthebible3579]

Jonathan Ray lies

[@reflectionsinthebible3579]

Jonathan Ray p.s. I used to know a baha’i. a long time ago... you book is a mingling if stories from the Bible and other religions. Your book has been written by someone who wanted all religions to be blended to bring it all together but it just does not work that way.

[@pastortroy777]

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[@Earth2Flo-v6f]

@@jonathanray4598 no, if so, this world would have our Lord Messiah, and all that he is.

[@marcuswongcheehong157]

Let US Share The gospel of christ to all the nations through all social medias, Jesus beloved!!!

[@BirdogEd]

We are one day closer...😎✝️❤️

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

This is a beautiful prospective 👍

[@brothercaleb]

Edwin tomlinson - except there’s no inference of any day or year to the rapture 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@ֆքǟռ-m5g]

Brother Caleb because we know the rapture will come one day. Every day that passes, brings us one day closer to that Glorious day. 😊

[@mashiloane]

AMEN

[@dianamorris5726]

🙏 I hope it is soon

[@John_Mcgrane]

The reason is two. Fold. 1 to protect us from His wrath at his coming and 2 to keep His promise of justification and salvation as a witness.

[@choward5430]

I listened intently here and the text that confuses me with R.C. Sproul's interpretation of the rapture is John 14:1-3 "“Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also." Here, the Lord Yeshua Christ is explaining to His disciples at His final Passover that He's leaving them but tells them not to be troubled about it. What is He going to do? He's leaving the earth to return to Glory He shared with His Father before the world was created (John 17:5) in heaven. To do what? To build homes for His people. Now according to Dr. Sproul's interpretation, the Church that is caught up will never reside in these homes because they're gonna leave and come right back to the earth.

[@winniecash1654]

A big u turn in the sky.

[@LastDaySaintJames]

REVELATION 22: 12

[@jayonnaj18]

Praise the Lord! I immensely adore the Bible teaching of the late R.C. Sproul, who is now absent from his earthly body and present with the Lord! He was a thoroughly clear preacher/teacher and my spiritual inner man can easily understand what he taught by the enablement of God the Holy Spirit! I love this, look forward to meeting him in Glory!

[@sarahward3874]

Sarah Ward. We were buried with Jesus Christ and we were raised and Resurrected with Christ and we are now seated in heavenly places with Christ.!

[@craigdrury4756]

He has a comforting personality and good character this r.c

[@bill7101]

Craig, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.

[@democratpro]

One of the best (top 2-3) teachers of our age

[@jackjones3657]

What a blessing to continue learning from Dr. Sproul! He lives on in every sense.

[@superluigi3279]

Amen! So true. His teachings from the grave still speak loudly today.

[@garvinsmith4555]

Be that as it may. He's still wrong about the Rapture.

[@kapatidsalabasniretsamtv5869]

this always gives me a goosebumps hearing about the preaching of rapture. What a glorious day that will be! Soli Deo Gloria 🙏

[@ratedrreformed8452]

Since RC doesn't believe in the "rapture" 🤣

[@alvinhickling901]

@@ratedrreformed8452 theres always one !

[@jeremynethercutt206]

@@alvinhickling901a rapture from the dead as in a resurrection into the air of life YES. Now, here’s the question: How many comings are there? How would you answer that? Two. The first coming was 2,000 years ago. The second coming is sometime in the future. There are only two comings. Well, I’m not going there yet, but I just want to keep it simple for the moment here. But Paul says, whatever he’s talking about in 1 Thessalonians 4 happens at the coming of the Lord. So, that will happen at the second coming. There’s a first coming, there’s a second coming, okay? And he says, “The Lord himself will descend from Heaven with a shout, the voice of the archangel, with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall rise first.” This is a resurrection. It doesn’t use the word “rapture.” It uses that which comes from the Latin from this passage, I think, or maybe it’s from the Corinthians passage, but in any event, it doesn’t use the term. I’m not faulting the word, but we just want to make sure that the words that we’re using are accurately reflecting what the text says. This says, “The dead in Christ will rise,” so we are talking here about a resurrection at the coming of the Lord. And then it says, “Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together”-there’s your rapture word, I think-“caught up with him in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” So, what Paul is saying is that at the coming of the Lord, those who have fallen asleep will be resurrected, so they go from dead to alive in the resurrection. But those who have not died yet will also be resurrected in the sense that they get transformed without having died. Why? Because it’s the end. Here’s Jesus. Pretty straightforward.

[@nazarin74]

What a blessing God has blessed us through R.C.!

[@martinkent333]

Brainwashing is a beautiful thing!!!!!!!!!

[@caroledonaldson5195]

Predestination and Providence. Our times are in His Hands! Praise the Lord!

[@stevenyates4535]

That's called Calvinism

[@rpavich]

⁠it’s called, the Bible…because it teaches those things

[@toddsiller1790]

R c sproul was an amazing reformed bible teacher. Huge blessing to this world. I agree with what he said.

[@nkennethdaniel]

One of my late father’s favorite preachers. They are together now in the presence of the Lord. It is intriguing to wonder whether they may now ‘know’ each other. I suspect that being in the presence of the Father and the Son consumes us and far exceeds any present curiosity as to others we may have known of on earth, but who knows. I do think that we will get to know all of these folks in the fulfillment of eternity.

[@CJILMinistriesprotruth]

If they are together now in the presence of the Father, why would Jesus have to come and resurrect them? If when people die they go to heaven or hell why will there be a resurrection and a judgment? Such is contrary to the teachings of Scripture.

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is The TRUE Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

[@curtisclark9544]

@@CJILMinistriesprotruth according to scripture. Resurrection is the body.... To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Our God breathed soul/spirit ?

[@CJILMinistriesprotruth]

@@curtisclark9544 when the apostle Paul speaks of absent from the body, what is talking about? When Ezekiel was absent from the body, where did he go? Please look up the word rapture in Greek, what it means. I have done a Bible study on it. You can check it out if so desired. Be blessed.

[@laurarahn7397]

Although timing does not matter because we should be ready always. I do believe RC has it wrong though on this. ❤

[@kennethdoughty644]

The 'Rapture' is full of holes.

[@kensmith5810]

When Christ meets his Bride in the air, we go back to his Father's house with him, and his word says, we will always be with the Lord, at the end of the tribulation we come back to the earth with him, and he sets up his Kingdom on earth for a thousand years,

[@tedprice5828]

That is not what he is saying.

[@tedprice5828]

That is not what he is saying

[@tedprice5828]

That is not what he is saying.

[@tamianderson3977]

That's not what the Bible says. Jesus comes back once, at the end of the age.

[@melissalew1357]

At the last trumpet LAST

[@michaelwascom62]

I have been reading and listening to R.C. Sproul's lectures, sermons and teachings for years. I have ALWAYS APPRECIATED his extensive knowledge, years of study, and learning; and the calm, sensible and non-sensational manner of presenting and explaining it. Dr. Sproul was "called home" several years ago. He was Presbyterian, and steeped in the Reformed theological tradition. I am also Presbyterian and Reformed (and reforming!).

[@cornelius_acts1036]

Educational lesson. Thank you for uploading it! I still miss RC Sproul.

[@myramediana3530]

À Arrr,:[

[@mordecaiesther3591]

End Game : what this means is Dr Sproul does NOT BELIVE in rapture and 7 years of anti-Christ and false prophet . That belief is WRONG .

[@christianastrophobe]

Don't we all

[@thecianotv2949]

Looking forward to this great event of meeting the Lord in the air.

[@lplapuri]

Excellent teaching and exposition. Thankyou Dr. Sproul!

[@chrisway7113]

Great preaching! Very clear and informative, and very helpful to me personally. I have been trying to get a clear understanding of the rapture for some time and I am most grateful to RC for this.

[@ohitsustu1835]

Check out Allen Nolan?

[@eekay5710]

Jesus in Matt 5:5 'Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth'.

[@AnHebrewChild]

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather OUT OF his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; and shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear. Mat13 > Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil. For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. Psa37

[@christinagordon4204]

Also, we are NOT appointed unto the wrath of God which will come upon the whole world in the the tribulation! 1 Thessalonians 5 verse 9

[@jimbrackett175]

Yes...he kinda forgot to mention this important verse....plus never mentioned that the church is not mentioned at all from Rev. 4 thru Rev. 19

[@danthacker]

In the wedding ceremony, the caught up was followed by a time of sevens. He came to take the bride from her home to His fathers home for a time of sevens. He didn’t stay at her home.

[@dennisboyd1712]

Is not the World God's & His Kingdom come to Earth at the end of the Great White Throne Judgment

[@paulbortolazzo2831]

The wedding ceremony is not the words of Jesus!

[@paulbortolazzo2831]

@@dennisboyd1712 The great white throne judgment comes after the world is destroyed by fire after the 1,000 year reign of Christ! The Lamb of God and His bride physically return at the beginning of the millennium in Rev.21:9-10!

[@FeedScrn]

What a great theologian. A gift to the body of Christ.

[@markrogers7546]

mal'ak emeth That’s a terrible lie that reveals more about you than it does about our (now deceased) brother in Christ. I don’t agree with RC’s eschatology. But he is my brother in Christ through faith in Him. We aren’t saved by our eschatology. We ARE SAVED BY OUR FAITH IN THE FINISHED WORK OF CHRIST OUR SAVIOUR ON THE CROSS!!

[@smeatonlighthouse4384]

FeedScrn - You gotta be joking. He hasn't got a clue about prophecy.

[@markbaz]

@@smeatonlighthouse4384 What’s wrong with what he(RC) is saying?

[@eddetom7417]

Theology is not wisdom or even truth. Scripture should be your preacher in secret! Not some building with a erected high place seeking tithes...

[@FeedScrn]

@@eddetom7417 - The way that it works- is that if You are Sure about your beliefs, and you are excited about them, then it's natural to go out and share them. Basically only people unsure of their beliefs, or it's those who don't really have any in particular - are silent.

[@marialamb6781]

YES!! ❤️💥❤️ We here on earth or dead in Christ are the WELCOMING committee!!

[@grantcrossley1486]

If this message can please get back to John. I am 35 years old. Born and raised in the church. We began at the Calvary Church where I was baptized and ended up deep in the charismatic religion. I've always heard God's voice but was told it was the enemy, I bet some people can relate. Pastor John is an amazing Man of God rightfully dividing the word of truth which and sense then saved me. My family is also understanding 1 day at a time as a result. God is good. I am forever grateful. Praying for GCC from up in NorCal.

[@theresarosemitchem6431]

Amen Preacher, If Paul thought he could be in the Rapture, this itself shows we as Christians go before the seals are opened. I believe they will be a 7 year of preparing we saints before the final Coming of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. People I believe need to hear this message today! God bless you and your family ✝️

[@texsis2112]

Exactly the Raptor happens before 7-year tribulation

[@kimmykimko]

You'd be wrong.

[@kimmykimko]

There is no "rapture." There is only ever discussed the ressurection and Jesus said many times that it happens on the last day. Case closed.

[@AgapeLove1994]

@@texsis2112 😂 The word "raptor" can refer to a type of bird or dinosaur. Raptor dinosaurs were moderately small dinosaurs that had hollow bones and were covered in feathers. Raptor birds are birds of prey such as hawks and eagles.

[@markrogers7546]

In no way can 70AD be termed a "return" of the Lord Jesus Christ. It is obvious that in 1 Thess.4 and 1 Cor.15 that our Lord returns FOR His Church. But in Revelation 19:7-9, 14; 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Zechariah 14:9; Revelation 19:15, 16, after the ravages of the Tribulation, He returns WITH His Church.

[@andrewdove342]

Those epistles addresses the audience who received them, as Jesus also addressed that generation. Paul writes to a group who were experiencing the persecutions in their day, and wrath which was about to come (70ad). He didn't write a letter for people 2000 years later,they understood exactly what he was referring to. The being caught up in the air, is metaphoric imagery. The air is the most holy place opened (heaven and earth was the old temple in Jerusalem). The new heaven and earth, and temple, is already now. In Christ. We are in Him. We can't be more with him later. We are joined. One. Union. Spirit. New creation already present.

[@shanedarden5238]

@@andrewdove342 most scholars totally disagree with what you are saying. Just to name a few Ravi Zacharias, David Jeremiah, John MacArthur

[@speaklifegardenhomesteadpe8783]

@mal'ak emeth why is it ignored the saints who were dead that were Ressurected when Jesus went to paradise, the dead brought to life. Just trying to study without man's guess but by the spirit.

[@mchristr]

The majority of Christians get mired in the swamp of interpretive controversy because they don't have an overarching view of eschatology. Sincere questions: Is a Jewish view of "final things" escapist or redemptive? Need we be translated to another "place" because the Gospel has ultimately failed to gather and purify a people for God? If not, why do we need a "tribulation:? If the Gospel has not initiated a present and growing kingdom, how can we have any confidence in either the salvific or sanctifying power of Christ's life, death, resurrection, ascension, and final return?

[@shanedarden5238]

@Spiritual Eyes vs Physical Eyes I believe God and the Bible says the new earth will be nothing like the one we are living in now

[@theresarosemitchem6431]

So much blessings to you and your family ✝️ Mrs Theresa Rose 🌹

[@kimvalynmiller5263]

You want to please your creator. Live the life he gave you the best you can. And accept Christ.

[@brenmanock]

I love rc sproul my fave teacher. His minister lives on!!

[@5p1tf1r31]

The end of the Church Age is when Jesus comes for his bride like a thief in the night and snatches his bride away.

[@jacobfralin5482]

Jesus… like a thief in the night????? What da?😂

[@5p1tf1r31]

@@jacobfralin5482 It’s what the scriptures say. No one left behind will see him - only those snatched away. At his second coming with the saints to rescue remnant Israel all eyes will see him - towards the end of the great tribulation.

[@thetower8553]

@@5p1tf1r31 "Like a thief in the night" doesn't mean unseen, reading the text, the Lord himself explains this has to do with knowledge read Matthew 24:43 in context. Do not be deceived, there will be no "secret rapture". The rapture will happen immediately after the first resurrection that will take place at His coming.

[@ashari7545]

​@@5p1tf1r31 that's not scriptural at all buddy. The thief passages are in regard to Jesus coming with judgement, not of him snatching the Church away.

[@jeremynethercutt206]

200 years ago no one held this view. Thanks Darby for corruption I know you meant no harm

[@zlumi428]

I want to go home.🙌🏻🙌🏻😇

[@Earth2Flo-v6f]

LM, have you made comments on Jim Brown grace and truth ministries, I heard your initials in a response he made?

[@Zelnora1]

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[@fredcourtney03]

Bless your ministry. It is a daily watch for me. It has also solidified my beliefs from the Bible. Even where I may feel differently it lets me know why

[@ratedrreformed8452]

James White debates will help also.

[@RevDavidReyes]

A simple reading of Revelation(which was a vision written in chronological order) leads to PreTrib Rapture. Not a reason to divide over, though. Love me some R.C. Sproul

[@tamianderson3977]

Not written in chronological order.

[@TheNinja691]

There are many people here who are in for a huge shock. There is a rapture of the believers which hasn’t happened yet and it MUST take place before the 7 year great tribulation.

[@freedomrider266]

Please read 2 Thess chap 2 & 3, and see you were taught very wrongly....

[@lizbinchy7811]

You are correct

[@ldebrobander]

No. Because the dead in Christ shall rise FIRST. Read the book of Revelation and see how many in Christ die or are martyred during the great tribulation. Rev. 14:14-16

[@ShayMccarthy1309]

I'd first like to start by saying I'm not here to argue with anyone. I felt compelled by the Holy Spirit to present the Word as it is written pertaining to the revealing of the antichrist and the talk surrounding the rapture. If you don't agree with what I have to say, I ask that you take it to the Lord in prayer. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 "Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition," **PLEASE NOTE: "for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" - ANTICHRIST IS REVEALED FIRST. Matthew 24:29-31 29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." 1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17 16 "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. **PLEASE NOTE: "Immediately after(NOT BEFORE) the tribulation (Matthew 24:29)", "The Son of Man coming down/descending (Matthew 24:30 & 1 Thessalonians 4:16)", "And He will send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet/with the voice of an archangel (Matthew 24:31 & 1 Thessalonians 4:16)", "And they will gather together His elect/we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air (Matthew 24:31 & 1 Thessalonians 4: 17) (The POST TRIBULATION Rapture)." Let’s take a look into Matthew 24:29 specifically: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.” PLEASE NOTE: Immediately after......not before.....after the tribulation and before Christ returns the following must also take place. 1. The sun will be darkened 2. Moon will not give it’s light 3. Stars fall from heaven 4. Powers of heaven are shaken Neither of these have happened. Nor has the man of sin been revealed yet and nor has the tribulation taken place yet. Scripture CLEARLY tells us all that their is no Pre Tribulation Rapture coming to save you. This teaching has done nothing but condition the church to NOT be ready for the coming persecution by the man of lawlessness. Jesus promised us that we will endure persecution (John 15:20). Everywhere I read in the book of revelation is “to them who overcome” not to them who are “taken away”. The book of revelation also does say that we will all reign with Christ for 1000 years. In fact, that honor is reservation ONLY for those who are beheaded for not taking the Mark of the Beast (Revelation 20:4). The rest are resurrected after the 1000 year millennial reign (Revelation 20:5). If the goal is to be raptured and leave this place ASAP, explain how those who are “left behind” and forced to take the mark or die get the ultimate honor of reigning with Christ for 1000 years? This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[@YeshuaMessiah7]

Thank you for putting this so clearly. I pray for those that believe in the Rapture indoctrination. It is false. You have to stand with Yahshua and fight! You will not fly away. You have to endure for 5 months.

[@rmc349]

Do you mean that Christians who already passed away (without having to deal with the tribulation period) are resurrected after the 1000 year reign? They are not part of 'the dead in Christ shall rise first'? They're not part of the wedding(party) and bride of Christ, which happens (if I'm understanding correctly) prior to the millennial reign?

[@ShayMccarthy1309]

Hi @@rmc349 , great question. I’m simply quoting Revelation 20:4-6 which states that only those who were killed for not taking the mark of the beast lived and reigned with Christ for 1000 years. Verse 5 clearly states the rest were not resurrected until the 1000 years were finished. The FIRST RESURRECTION in verse 6 is speaking of those who were killed during the tribulation period (beheaded). Not those who died prior to this happening. From what I’m reading, only those part of the first resurrection live and reign with Christ for 1000 years. Revelation‬ ‭20:4-6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.”

[@ShayMccarthy1309]

@@YeshuaMessiah7 yes! I pray that those who believe in a pre tribulation rapture come to know that this is doing more damage to them than any good. In no way will the church be prepared for what’s ahead when they are taught that no preparation is necessary. If Jesus promised us persecution, why are western world churches teaching Christians to run away? Sadly, many will depart from the faith when they learn the tribulation begins without the rapture taking place. Many will look to God saying, “how could you???” when they should have been deepening their relationship with him and preparing to go through persecution for his name sake. Persecution was never a maybe, it was a promise. Bless you!

[@rmc349]

@@ShayMccarthy1309 Thank you for your reply. What you've written is clear and I very much understand what you're saying. I've studied the pre- and post-trib view myself and there are a lot of points to make for a post-trib rapture but also for a pre-trib rapture. In my view, both can happen as well. I'm not trying to debate in a 'mean way' and I don't have to 'win' so to speak. I'm only considering all of the points and when I look at the signs all around me, I can say that I won't be surprised if the rapture is (very) soon. (I will be very happy though!) I am however not 'strict' on it, as I don't rely on my own understanding. (Proverbs 3 verse 5) Having said that, we must keep in mind that Paul wrote to comfort and encourage the church in Thessalonians. There has been a lot of debate already concerning 'the falling away', but I'll type it out in a simple way: 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 "Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition," "...unless the falling away comes first..." There's a debate that this refers to the devil falling from heaven, meaning at the 3,5 years into the tribulation. That translates to Paul saying: "Don't worry, first you'll see the devil on earth." There's also a debate that this is members of the church falling away from their faith. That translates to Paul saying: "Don't worry, some of you will lose your faith first." That doesn't make sense to me. Paul earlier wrote 'comfort/encourage one another with these words.' That's why I 'indicate' Paul saying "don't worry". These are just my own simple thoughts on the matter. There is a study done on earlier translations of the Bible. It was the KJV who started with 'falling away'. Earlier translations mentioned 'the departure'. (I'll post a link to that study in another comment.) If you read 2 Thessalonians 2 like that, it starts to make sense that there might very well be a pre-trib rapture. We also have to remember that Paul was talking to the church and Jesus throughout the Bible often talked to Jews and His disciples. Having said all that; I'm not saying 'this must be it'. I'm only sharing what I've found. I have a lot of other clues. Almost for every post-trib argument there's a pre-trib argument. There are even books on the different views. (Haven't read them, but they're available.) In the end it all boils down to this: God's will be done.

[@waynegrobler7432]

Oh what an amazing day that will be...to be with the LORD...pure HOLY love.. HIS pure grace... our pure joy. .. 🙏🙏🙏🙏❤❣❤🙏😄

[@chrismcintyre6331]

Amazing when it happens, even after the tribulation of those days! Mat24:29

[@bill7101]

Wayne, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.

[@rpullen4825]

"Even so, COME, LORD JESUS!!"

[@abletonreason]

Started listening to this brilliant man after hearing Paul Washer talk about him. Keep the faith brothers and sisters! All praise be to the Lord. Every knee will bow and every mouth will confess.

[@herbertg.porter9805]

I agree with Dr. Sproul's presentation. However, when he criticizes the partial preterists for spiritualizing the second coming of the Lord, he is guilty of the same thing when he talks about the Millennium in the Book of Revelation. The problem with most Reformed Theologians is that even though they got the doctrine of God and Salvation right, they simply continued embracing the Augustian and Aquinian view of biblical prophecy when it came to the End Times. It wasn't till the third wave of the Reformation, that of the Anabaptists, that the correct doctrine of believers baptism and a futuristic view of the End Times began to be taught. Infant Baptism is merely a carry over of the Catholic ritual. You see it in the Lutheran and Reformed traditions. Apparently, that aspect of theology was not a priority during the initial stages of the Reformation. Unfortunately, they never really took the time to examine the two doctrines from a fresh perspective, despite the fact that the NT is so clear regarding believers baptism by immersion as Paul illustrates it in Romans 6.

[@misterbobby8913]

Interesting point So Anabaptists have it right?

[@joebattista28]

Several inconsintencies in this video. If believers have to go through the tribulation there will be none to be snatched up alive since all believers will be killed by the Beast during the tribulation. Also when Christ returns the earth will not be adorned and with sweet smell- it will be in shambles with dead corpses all around. Finally, Paul said to comfort ourselves with these words- not much comfort knowing we will go through hell on earth living through the wrath of God which is not appointed for us.

[@juaninglis6466]

To bad there are currently Christians going through hell on earth. Are you more special then they. What about the Christians that have been burned alive in history? Small world you live in.

[@jsfoyer5769]

The tribulations of the saints is not the wrath of God expressed by yhe judgment of the cup or bowls. Tribulation mean suffering from the ungodly. Stay blessed

[@williamlinington9166]

The rapture is false doctrine.

[@lessofme53]

This verse proves Jesus has already come back the 2nd time. “But He kept silent and did not answer. Again the high priest was questioning Him, and saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” And Jesus said, “I am; and you shall see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”” (Mar 14:61-62, NASB)

[@misterbobby8913]

I don't get it

[@m2mike38]

I thank God who always make sure that I come across people like this man, whom He give His truth to be taught. I love this brother.

[@MumzyTube]

What of John 14: 1-3 1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. It sure sounds like we go to be in Heaven with Jesus for the 7 years while the earth is going through the tribulation. Thus the reason our bodies must be changed to dwell with Jesus in Heaven as per John 14. 1 Corinthians 15:53 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. 50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.

[@TheTonggingfai]

I don’t agree with his understanding of the rapture. One needs to understand the feasts of the Lord as found in Leviticus 23. Christ fulfilled the first four feasts precisely in His first coming. The next three feasts are the Feast of Trumpets (rapture) the day of Atonement or Yom Kippur ( second coming) and the Feast of Tabernacles - God with us in the Millenium reign of Christ. John 14: 1-4 is Christ’s promise to return for His bride, the church. This occurs before the Tribulation and is followed by the wedding supper of the Lamb in heaven, before Christ returns with His saints in the Second Coming.

[@rickmoscicki9853]

Revelation 6:11 (KJV) [11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. This tells me that the church is still on the earth during the tribulation

[@bill7101]

Rick, That only says that those martyred for their faith will continue to sleep until the rest are martyred. Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.

[@l.b.sommer2087]

If you know that the FIRST resurrection occurs in millennium (Read Rev chapter 20) then you can be certain the the rapture is immediately after the tribulation as is stated in Matt 24:29. The rapture occurs after the first resurrection so it cannot occur pretribulation.

[@magriffing3497]

That's not the church/saints on earth. Those are the tribulation saints who are martyred. The Jews.

[@magriffing3497]

@@l.b.sommer2087 The second coming is not the rapture. What happened with Noah? And what happened with Lot? Did God remove them from His wrath? Why?

[@l.b.sommer2087]

@@magriffing3497 Christ is coming to earth once. We are told he will return the same way he left and he only left once. When he arrives there will be a rapture and the kingdom will be established in Jerusalem. This why he taught us to pray for god's kingdom to come. Those who are resurrected in the first resurrection rule as kings and priests ON EARTH. (Rev 20:4-6, Rev 5:10) The scriptures do indicate that there is time between the time of the rapture and final day of God's wrath. (Read Rev. chapter 14) Lot lived thru ungodly days and was rescued at the last moment. Noah lived in a violent world and he too was rescued at the last moment. We too will live through tribulation and will face the Anti-Christ. (See Rev. 20:4-6 - those resurrected have already faced the Anti-Christ) The prophecy of the mark of the beast was given to John 30 years after the destruction of Jerusalem, so we know that these saints that are resurrected are from our last days and not from the first century. We know the resurrection occurs before the rapture. If the FIRST resurrection as it is called in the scriptures occurs in the millennium as we are told in Revelation chapter 20, then a pre-tribulation rapture is impossible.

[@kennethreyman3707]

I don’t care about the apostle creed. I care about the inspired word of God!

[@villarrealmarta6103]

The apostles creed is a direct creation of the word of God. Every detail comes from scripture. The early church clung to its truths.

[@greghanson-w3d]

wish more folks listened to this guy. so many are deceived by foolish blind. thank God for sproul and his crew

[@stellaking6742]

Wow..I can hear this over and over and over again...

[@emeliazeynalian9958]

Don't get so excited from Happiness...Don't get Sad & depressed ...Because after each sadness ...HAPPINESS IS COMING. WINTER IS SO SHORT. .SIinsiere in Christ

[@savedbeliever]

My only hope is Jesus. Hope He takes us out soon. I have no home here, but I have a home in heaven with Jesus.

[@KaraboMasemola6408]

Blessed to have discovered this man of God

[@salmanda2503]

You may also like Dr Irene Bonney faulks

[@melvynobrien6193]

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[@bill7101]

Karabo, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.

[@Praise___YaH]

HERE is The Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Semitic Scroll: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"

[@sarahward3874]

The Church is the bride of Christ. Jesus will not let His bride go though the Tribulations. Where she will have to deal with Satan.!

[@patrickfreeman756]

I would suggest everyone read the words of our Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 24. Pay attention to the chronology of events (verses 24, 29, 30 & 31.). You have to read it through to the end of the chapter. And then pray that you aren’t one of the 5 unprepared virgins that Christ speaks of in the opening of chapter 25. WAKE UP!! Do not be deceived by puffed up men who tickle your ear!!!

[@williamgill_esq.6487]

Patrick Freeman And pay attention to verse 15 -->> the Mid Point Abomination of desolation. Ergo, no "rapture"/gathering together unto the Lord/return of Christ until AFTER the mid point Abomination. Paul says the same thing in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8.

[@patrickfreeman756]

William Gill_Esq. I must be honest, I’m not sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying Christ comes mid-week of the 70th week of Daniel? If so, that doesn’t match Genesis (Noah), Exodus (Moses), none of the major or minor prophets and most of all, the words of Christ himself. I don’t want to get into an eschatological debate. But you must ask one question, were the types provided in the OT taken out or protected? If you say “look at Noah”, whom I believe the language shows he was protected, then you must now explain how in Egypt the type specifically shows they were protected by the blood at Passover. Then you have to explain why Christ follows up Matt 24 immediately with the parables in Matt 25 which cannot be understood any other way than for us to be prepared for the tribulation AND Great Tribulation. If we are not here, then who is being beheaded for His Name? We have been grafted into the tree, there is one body... it MUST all fit together. I pray you can “search the scriptures” and allow “He that restrains” reveal the Truth of the Word.

[@Marsbonfire007]

Jesus returned in 70 AD?? Where does it say that?

[@bill7101]

It doesn’t say that... Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.

[@keneyhector1897]

Be ready for both scenarios

[@left0verture]

Kenny - I’m with you on this one. I have faith in Jesus Christ, but not in my ability to figure everything out. Lotsa people in the world know everything about everything and aren’t shy about telling you so... I ain’t one of ‘em. I was raised in a pre-trib rapture church and was convinced of a rapture then. Later I spent 19 years in a partial preterist no rapture church and was convinced there too. Now I just say “I don’t know, but I’m leaving on the first bus out of here.”

[@christianvanvleet864]

Paul stated “comfort each other with these words....” I believe he would not have stated that had the tribulation been what we were waiting for!

[@daniticasimmons]

Well some christian persecution is death so how can you be comforted if you're dead?

[@christianfreedman4641]

Excuse Me....The comfort being spoken of is that you will see your loved ones again.

[@peytonsingh6258]

@@daniticasimmons Philippians 1:21- For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

[@mariatorok364]

Psalm 27 you said yourself Jacobs trouble, do you even know what that means ? And if you don’t read Hebrew don’t even try to say things actually the apostle Paul wrote there ...saved out from ..not go through and this is the first time in my life when I hear that apostle Paul when he wrote to the church of Thessalonians to encourage them he didn’t think that the rapture it won’t happen in his life time , the way he wrote its exact what he said , and since he believe that he told them to encourage one another with this words , as simple as that , why someone try to twist the truth 🤷‍♀️, Jacobs trouble means Israel s troubles and the purpose of the tribulation is for the Jewish nation , listen to a messianic Jews and he will tell you exactly what it is and why , may God bless everyone!!!

[@mariatorok364]

Chicken Nuggets no actually Paul comfort them becouse they thought that the rapture took place and they were left behind, read in 2Thessalonians what Paul wrote to the church

[@MezztovenShort4DannY]

Now this is exactly what Jesus, Paul was talking about, something never seemed right about a pre trib rapture, definitely the Spirit of Truth was not leading my heart to a doctrine like that, great teaching. Even so Come Lord

[@ArizonaSusan]

Matthew 24:36 said “But of that day and hour knoweth no man…” Now, read the verse just prior which is verse 35. Many, many people ignore this verse. “Heaven and earth shall pass away…” THAT is the day that no man knows; the day that heaven and earth shall pass away. Continue reading the rest of the entire chapter and Jesus says that no man will know the hour that the Son of man comes. We are told to watch and if the goodman had watched, he would have known. So, we can know the day but not the hour that the Son of man comes because we are Watching. Verse 50 said that the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he (the servant) looketh not for him and in an Hour that he is not aware of. Children of God, we are to look for and be aware of the day. God’s will be done

[@junk3996]

in 1 Cor 15 where Paul quotes Hosea, saying "O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?" it is not referring to "hell". its referring to the "grave", which is what Hades or Sheol should always be translated as. just look at Hosea and see what the context is in which this is quoted from, and its very clear. Hosea 13:14: "I will ransom them from the power of the GRAVE. I will redeem them from death. O Death, where is your sting. O Grave, where is your victory. Pity is hidden from My eyes." its clearly talking about grave, and should be translated as grave. which of course it should. the grave has no victory, why? because of Christ's resurrection

[@tonya1802]

God bless this man....I love listening to him.

[@robinl6659]

Sound doctrine! Graceful as well

[@michaeledwards4715]

It amazes me how major teachers such as Perry stone, john hagee, and other television teachers, supposedly Led by the Holy Spirit, can then misinterpret the written scriptures and fall for the pre _tribulation doctrine! When it is clearly stated in the word of God that the rapture occurs at the last trumpet blast at the end of the tribulation period known as Jacobs trouble? Jesus taught the church that the Day of the lord comes at the end of the tribulation period!

[@DZ-gq6jv]

@ Capt. Mike Edwards: It amazes me that people confuse the Rapture (rapturos in Greek) and the Day of the Lord (final judgement and physical appearance of JC when all eyes shall see Him). The Bible says it will be as in the days of Noah. When Noah got in the ark (parallel to the number of the Gentiles being fulfilled) God shut the door (the moment of Rapture). Then they were safe from God's wrath (which is what the Bible talks about as well). So as the judgement poured down, the Ark was above the waters (the church lifted in the air). I can only imagine the disappearance of thousands of people and then the Antichrist being revealed. The power of the Restrainer is now at work still, but when the Church is gone then there will be nothing to hinder the complete unleash of Evil of all the powers, dominions, and principalities that govern this world. Then the coming plagues as described in the book of Revelations...oh my! God said He is going to send His angels to gather His people from all the 'corners' of the earth, separating the wheat from the chaff, so that the wheat is stored and the chaff is burned. He will not judge the just with the unjust/unrighteous. The Bible explains itself and so far pre-trib matches all the allegories and also God's promises and prophecies. Thankfully this issue is not about salvation so whatever people understand from these passages make no difference to our eternity with Christ.

[@endtimestraveller7716]

I am amazed at the inconsistencies and theological holes in partial preterism.

[@jasperhorne]

It amazes me how people are amazed about a divide in theology that has existed for the past 2000 years.

[@EBRoyJr]

@@DZ-gq6jv if you believe floating on water is akin to the rapture then buy a boat and live the rest of your life on the ocean...you'll be raptured.

[@wesjackshaw7615]

I Thess 4: 16 says the sound of a trumpet, not the last trumpet; and in the context of believers, not Israel....

[@S3thousand]

I would have had a million questions for Mr. Sproul. I love and respect him so much. I am a dispensationalist but I learned so much from his teachings. The consequence of ideas being one of my favorites. I do find it interesting, nowhere does the Bible come right out and say Jesus's return will happen in two stages rapture/planting his feet on the Mt. Of Olives, but nowhere does it come right out and say Jesus will come to earth twice, something we all believe. As a lamb to take away the sins of the world/on the clouds with great power and glory. I don't consider the rapture as his return at any rate. I believe the rapture is the rapture. An event that stands on its own. The mystery doctrine of Paul. And all previous doctrines of his return are spicific to his return where Israel says "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord"

[@bill7101]

John, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.

[@hilarioushen4164]

They’ll be no Rapture. PEROID. There is only one return of Christ Jesus & that is in judgement. If the church was raptured tomorrow who’s the Antichrist going to persecute? The ungodly? I don’t think so. The true church must go through great tribulation. It should be all joy for the child of God to suffer for the sake of the Gospel & for the testimony of Jesus Christ & him crucified. I would have no problem suffering for my saviour, because he suffered fo me.

[@S3thousand]

@@hilarioushen4164 he persecutes israel. Thats why its the time of Jacob's trouble. And the rapture isnt a coming of christ. Its the rapture, because were not appointed to wrath. Nowhere does it explicitly state the messiah will come twice, but its implied. 2 thousand years ago, and at the second coming.

[@davidhutchinson4950]

@@S3thousand hi John, I’m having trouble with revelation 7:9-14 this multitude that comes out of the great tribulation that’s not the Jews as they are the 144,000 mentioned previously in that chapter?

[@DogSoldier1948]

God’s return can be looked at in at least two ways, both ones fulfilled the prophecy of his return before the apostles perish. First theory Christ died on the cross and went to paradise and returned in three days. Second theory is he returned as the Holy Spirit and is governing his people. The Scriptures below was fulfilled on the cross. 1 Corinthians 15:23-25 English Standard Version 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.

[@brianwinters5434]

To me as a 64 year old student of scripture I do not see how anyone who studys scripture can be a full preterist. or even a partial preterist.

[@Kenneth-nVA]

Partial preterism because many ( not all) the events mentioned in Matthew 24, Luke 21, Mark 13 have internal evidence ( in scripture) and external evidence ( events of 70 Ad).

[@deb220706]

My inlaws believe Nero was the anti-christ. can you explain to me is that preterist? ans what exactly do they believe ?

[@Kenneth-nVA]

@@deb220706 yes both partial and full preterists hold this view

[@deb220706]

@Dr Pastor R C Sproul Crook. you should be ashamed of yourself. maybe you should go and donate to a good cause, i sense a demon attached to you.

[@allthingsbing1295]

I don’t see how anyone who reads the scriptures isn’t a full preterist. Any other position makes Yeshua and Paul false prophets.

[@bobdalton2062]

Useless speculations when we should be focused on reaching the lost and living a righteous life ourselves. We are here now and we have a job to do! Sufficient each day are the troubles that it brings do not worry about the future!

[@SterlingsOpinion]

Amen Do not believe it's A SALVATION issue. Thank you for your response.

[@SummerofKittyLove]

He doesn’t believe some believers will not see death, like Enoch and Elijah. He doesn’t believe that God often times takes away into safety His people before a destruction.

[@SpaceCadet48-j9t]

You are correct about Enoch and Elijah but were the rest of the Israelites taken with them ? That doesn't give relevance to a pre trib rapture.

[@SonofIiberty]

The tribulation is not Gods wrath it is the work of man under the antichrist. The wrath of God happens after the second coming and the rapture

[@chuckgulledge2304]

Since Christ said that no man knows the day or hour, Paul could not have know that he would be alive during that event.

[@johnsteila6049]

Paul obviously believed that he would see The Second Coming in his lifetime. If you study his epistles, you’ll understand.

[@Keyfer62]

I'm wondering where we will be "raptured" to if we have already been raised up into heavenly places in Christ Jesus (Eph. 2:5,6).

[@CJILMinistriesprotruth]

I have the same question.

[@JD-hi8qx]

I am not seeing a direct scriptural reason for rapture being comfortable or good... It could and i love an optimist... But my intuition is telling me rapture could very well be believers being taken away and concentrated in prison camps.

[@CJILMinistriesprotruth]

@@JD-hi8qx The teaching is unscriptural. To accept the doctrine of the rapture is to accept all the false teachings surrounding it. Jesus says all eyes will behold him and as the lightning flashes out of the east to the west so shall the coming of the son of man be.

[@JD-hi8qx]

@@CJILMinistriesprotruth but who says it is scriptural or not? Who gets to be the definitive decider?

[@CJILMinistriesprotruth]

@@JD-hi8qx The Bible which is the word of God. God is HIS word and HIS word is He. John 1:1, Psalm 138:2.

[@AwaitingHisSoonReturn]

Question?? ..... Sproul said "Paul does not say that the Christians will be caught up in the air and then stay up in the air with Jesus....... So ... what does this scripture mean? ..... John 14:3 “And if I GO and PREPARE A PLACE for you, I will come again, and RECEIVE you unto myself; that WHERE I am, THERE ye may be also.” ... Where is Jesus right NOW? ... that's WHERE we are going ....

[@oldnikonian343]

Matthew 24: 21,22 There will be great distress, unequalled from the beginning of the world until now-and never to be equalled again. 22 If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. A basic interpretation... Verse 21 describes the great tribulation. Verse 22 describes how for the sake of Gods elect, the days of the tribulation will be shortened, lest even the elect would not survive. Would someone holding to a pre-tribulation position care to explain why the days of the tribulation would need to be shortened for the sake of Gods elect IF GODS ELECT ARE NOT PRESENT DURING THE TRIBULATION?

[@SonofIiberty]

amen

[@gerard1954]

He does not touch the earth when the rapture takes place so that is not considered the 2 nd coming that happens at the end of the tribulation when he touches down on the mount of olives everyone will see this and we are told 1290 days after the Abomination of desolation takes place . The rapture no one knows the day or hour. The 7 years we are with the lord is the marriage feast we are given fine linen . The tribulation saints will be given robes Just like Enoch was taken before the flood And Elijah was taken before Babylon so to the church will be taken before the tribulation if you can count on anything you can count on the consistency of the Lord

[@fed99harmony]

Jesus said all his coming like athief that is timing not the event. The event is glorified event

[@gerard1954]

fed99harmony then the timing will become the event

[@fed99harmony]

@@gerard1954 rapture is an event but not secret. And not before tribulation

[@gerard1954]

fed99harmony no the rapture is not a secret its a promise it will only be secret to those who are not prepared to be taken up to be with the lord. When is Gods wrath poured out on this world if not at the breaking of the first seal? His wrath we are not appointed to if we are expecting him at any moment. If you are not expecting him at any moment well then who are you looking for? The antichrist ? As for me im looking for the blessed hope to be snatched out of here and meet the lord in the air and go into the marriage feast for the following 7 years. The 2nd coming will not be like a thief in the night all will see him in his glory the war will be finished by his coming. After the abomination its 3 1/2 years and jesus comes to set up his kingdom think about it if not even the son knows when he comes to take us to him why would he tell us this 1260 days .

[@fed99harmony]

@@gerard1954 y the confusion between god's wrath and tribulation in antichrist period?

[@michelvilon1903]

Been waiting 22 years for my reward from god,please pray for me,thank you!!!

[@bc8648]

mal'ak emeth look at yourself

[@bc8648]

mal'ak emeth I quoted Gods word on another comment full of your babbling and you didn’t want to hear it. I’m not even going to read your self righteous rant.

[@bc8648]

mal'ak emeth God will humble you...again by the looks of things

[@bc8648]

mal'ak emeth God will one day reveal to you how to be a real fisher of men. God cares nothing of your knowledge...Satan knows all that you do and more.

[@bill7101]

Michel, Read “The Next Medo-Persian Empire” to be Rapture ready.

[@ponygirl9831]

This is the most comprehensive blessed teaching. Thank you for sharing. I have shared it to loved family members.

[@Fit4faith2024]

Great Teaching DR. Clear and presice overview

[@johnchamberlain9775]

II Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him," Paul is now getting to the purpose for this second letter. Paul reminded them of his first letter to them, of Christ returning and our gathering back to Him. Because of the misunderstanding that could be drawn from the first letter, he writes the following. It's important in this final generation that we pay attention for this will happen during our life time. The subject again of this letter is; "our gathering back to Christ". II Thessalonians 2:2 "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is [the Lord is just] at hand." Paul doesn't want you to misunderstand what he is about to say. This is why he makes it plain and simple; Paul told them not to confuse what he is saying here with any other teaching, or spirit, or even that first letter from him. This is because there was a confusing part in the first letter where false teachers had crept in and twisted Paul's words. The prime example of this today is the twisting of that first letter by the "rapture theorist", to form the trap that has been set for Christians in this final generation. Paul is saying, don't let anyone trouble you [confuse you], and tell you that the "day of Christ" is at hand. The "day of Christ [the Lord]" is the day when Jesus Christ will return to earth, and gather His saints to Him. This gathering will happen at the sounding of the seventh trumpet. This is one of those tradition's of men [false doctrines] that can deceive you. II Thessalonians 2:3 "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come [it will not be], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;" Jesus Christ is not gathering anyone to Him, nor is He coming here to earth, except there be a falling away first. The word for "falling away", in the Greek is "apostasy". Jesus told us in His revelation to John, in Revelation 9:11, that "Apollyon" is one of Satan's names, and this name is derived from the word apostasy. The word "perdition" means "one that perishes". Satan and only Satan has already been condemned to die [to perish] by God. Satan's judgment day has come already back in the first earth age, and he will have no part in the Great White Throne judgment, or any other judgment yet to come. He has already been judged, and sentence by God to death "perdition" [Ezekiel 28 covers this judgment].

[@paulbortolazzo2831]

The rapture of dead and live believers onto Jesus will take place when the sun moon and stars lose their light.

[@dennishageman4947]

I agree completely and not many people see this. This will take place at the breaking of the sixth seal. Some time into the second half of the 7 year tribulation period. We as believers may very will see the Antichrist and go through some terrible times.

[@RonnyC880]

There was a resurrection when Jesus died. Matthew 27:52 The tombs also were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53 After his resurrection they came out of their tombs and entered the holy city and appeared to many.

[@debbieward9732]

Very few ever mention that.

[@RonnyC880]

@@debbieward9732 I know. It's been there for 2000 years and nobody knows about it....... except me.........and now you.

[@ldebrobander]

They were raised from the dead. No glorified body and no catching away.

[@MrPatdeeee]

I believe the "Rapture" ("calling up") can be summed up in 4 scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed (cleansed). 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord (Jesus) himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection (Rapture): on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. All 4 of these scriptures are talking about the "calling up" ("Rapture"). When will it happen? OK, notice the words "trump" in the 1st and 2nd scriptures above. The word was an incorrect translation in the KJV. It should've been "trumpet". Thus in the book of Revelation, it says there will be 7 "Trumpets" that will blow. Now notice the word "last" in the 1st scripture above. This means that the rapture will occur AFTER the 7th trumpet blows, during the Great Tribulation. Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be (again). And that is in the middle of the GT. Oh indeed yes. I believed, as most believe, that the "Rapture" would occur BEFORE the GT. I believed it for 75 yrs (I am 89 now) I taught it and preached it. But now I believe I was dead wrong; after studying these verses and praying my heart out asking Jesus to give me wisdom. Thus now; I believe that the Rapture will occur exactly in the middle of the GT. Remember: that AFTER the 7 trumpets blow; there will be 7 vials (bowls). That takes time. So... ...I believe that the 7 trumpets "wrath" of Jesus with mercy; and then the 7 vials wrath of Jesus with OUT mercy. And each time length will be 3 and 1/2 yrs. Thus all total is 7 yrs for the GT to be fulfilled. This tells me that the Rapture can NOT be "Pre-Trib" or "Post-Trib"; But dead center "Mid-Trib". Could I be wrong? Absolutely. So could every other thesis from creation until the end. Only Jesus is the expert. So the best way to learn, is to take it to Him. Never try to do it on our own. Oh indeed. In any case... Praise Jesus and His Holy Name. For He is the only true God there will ever have been. Mark me words.

[@paulbortolazzo2831]

RC Sproul is taking away from the prophecy of the revelation of Jesus Christ. For those who do God will take away their part in the book of life and the holy city forever. Revelation 22:19

[@MichaelDBiggs]

Recognizing that 1Thess 4:13-18 states that the saints rise into the "air", not heaven, is vital to the proper understanding of this passage. As well, the timing is laid out precisely by Jesus in Matthew 24:29

[@Kman.]

??? We rise to meet Him, but as *John 14:3* _CLEARLY_ notes, we go to where HE is...He doesn't come to where WE are; *=====>* "...where I am, there ye may be also". The church is not mentioned in *Matt 24.* In that text, Christ will be returning to earth where He remains for the millennial reign, _sooooooooooo..._ If there's no rapture preceding the 2nd coming, you just scrubbed HEAVEN from our future, & THAT'S where both the Bema & marriage to the Lamb take place.

[@soellasoella7276]

I’m a daughter of King 👑

[@goodone5590]

@mal'ak emeth why start so negative, whatch yourself cause one day God will expose your doings!

[@НатанаилСталев-ф2р]

Amen Sis! I'm a son of the Light - Jesus Christ, our Savior and KING! See you with YHWH Yeshua in the Heaven!

[@goodone5590]

@mal'ak emeth Just your tone and how you are Passive Aggressive. Looks like, You like pointing fingers at people, you filled with Ego and pride, you act as you are so so perfect, Shame on you! Yes we should Be Repentant, but the way you started this conversation, as so unnecessarily aggressive. Will push people away, you will have to answer to Jesus one day for how foolish and unloving your approach was. You can inform them in a better more gentle way, let them understand, You just like to feed your Ego. I rebuke you the Spirit of Pride in Jesus name!

[@goodone5590]

@mal'ak emeth Good job exposing yourself as who you really are, you are a servant of satan! Hopefully you change before its too late, that's it im not going to respond to you again you are a Fool.

[@gabrielg3617]

mal'ak emeth i guess you mean it positively, bc you want people to be really saved and not decevied and I appreciate you for that, but tou are kinda being a legalistic pharisee and dont get me wrong i am guilty of this too

[@terrywillis6430]

Very Interesting! So if all who receive the mark of the beast are to be condemned, how do the believers stay alive during the tribulation? Where do the triumphant witnesses stand? If all who do not accept the mark of the beast are killed, who are those of us who are still alive at his return?

[@tjstevens001]

Good question.

[@Gabnella1]

Most won't live completely through the GT. Those Christians are known as the 'Tribulation Saints' who are Believers, that will be martyred as witness for their faith in Christ for rejecting the mark of the beast. Believers/Christians are the only ones who will have the power to reject the Antichrist and his mark because the Holy Spirit, who is not the Restrainer, abides in them. Enduring to the end is not referring to living through the entire GT until Jesus returns. Enduring to the end is not departing from the faith or denouncing Christ, even in the face of death. There will still be Christians on the earth when Christ returns. Death/Martyrdom IS triumphant, as scripture states that 'they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony and loved not their lives even unto death... Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. -Psalm 116:15...Martyrdom is the highest honor a Christian will receive and since the first Christian martyr Stephen, ALL of them are still under the Mercy Seat until the last Brother/Sister in Christ is killed for their faith and American Christians are not exempt...Buckle up now because the One World Religion has officially been created (Chrislam) and will spread rapidly across the world soon even in America and the Church will be here...

[@JonathanAllen0379]

What an incredibly knowledgeable man of God.🙏🏼❤️

[@honahwikeepa2115]

I've been talking to our children about these things. So much to being a Christian than merely attending a church.

[@scottareevesrecords]

My first reaction is, Jesus isn't coming back in triumph and entering into his city. He's coming back to deal with the Anti-Christ and Israel. AND THEN he is triumphant. He's coming back to do battle, not to triumphantly claim his throne after a battle. He's coming back as warrior Jesus, not triumphant and ready to enter the city for a ticker-tape parade. So why would the Church go up to meet him as he's coming down, and continue on down with him "in glory"? He's coming back to essentially unleash a bloodbath, not to show off after a triumphant battle. It makes more sense that the Church would be raptured out before the Tribulation, and then return with Christ to take part in that final battle. What am I missing?